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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask......
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2 ********************* REMOVED: 11 SEP 83 ******************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
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10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
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11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
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12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
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16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
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17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
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18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
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19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
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20 use the replace command to replace the line.
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21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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23 ========================================
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24
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25 YES, THIS SYSTEM DOES SOMETIMES SEND THE LINE FEED BEFORE THE CARRAGE
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26 RETURN. WEIRD HUH?
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27 *******************************************************************
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28 SORRY TO THOSE WHO TRYED TO USE THE SYSTEM TODAY, I HAD IT OFFLINE TO
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29 DO BACKUPS THIS MORNING AND FORGOT TO PUT IT BACK ON LINE.
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30 AGAIN, SORRY IF IT INCONVIENENCED ANYONE.
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31 ****** A VERY APPOLIGETIC CISTOP MIKEY ***** 6 SEPT 83 ***** 10:20PM ***
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32
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33 We need some mental stimulation to flex our heads. The imagination is
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34 a bottomless well which can be drawn from and is never exhausted. Here are
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35 some ideas I have gathered from friends and acquaintances to titilate your
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36 imagination and just possibly end in something than makes a difference to
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37 someone or all of us in a positive way.
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38
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39 What would happen if two black holes collided? Would they eat each
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40 other up? Would you have a BIG BLACK HOLE? Or would you have a really small
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41 black hole? Or would they cancell each other out and result in no black hole
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42 at all?
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43
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44 ******************************************************************************
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45
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46 Who wants to believe in things that are not true? What is truth? Is it
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47 necessarily a subjective evaluation of reality, since none of us have any way
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48 of verifying that our perceptions are identical with others' perceptions?
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49 For example, what makes you think that the moon is NOT made of green cheese?
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50 You take it on faith that the authorities who claim to have investigated the
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51 moon would not tell you something that was not true, right?
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52 Does truth boil down to defense of an argument using mental tools that
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53 are generally acceptable (e.g. logic, rationality, persuasion)? If you can
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54 defend your argument well then you create a belief and increase your credibil-
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55 ity as a source of truth. But doesn't personal subjective experience ultimately
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56 determine whether your "truth" is true?
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57 ********************************************************************************
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58 A GOOD IDEA: You could write a program that would display requested
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59 quadrants of the night sky from any place on earth at any time. Constellations
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60 could be displayed automatically or by individual request, which would be a
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61 really valuable tool for teaching astronomy. But how would you write this
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62 program and where would you get the raw data?
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63 *******************************************************************************
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64 Did you ever wonder if it is possible to have a "fast-forward" feature
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65 for ordinary television? Perhaps it could be done using bubble memory to
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66 continuously recycle the transmission through the memory. Perhaps two or three
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67 minutes of video and audio information could be stored in a relatively
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68 economical bubble memory circuit so that under normal circumstances you are
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69 watching what was transmitted two or three minutes previous. When you get to
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70 a commercial segment, you push the fast-forward and zip through the commercials
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71 to arrive at "real time" transmission. When you leave the room for a beer or
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72 a bathroom break, you push the bubble memory buffer switch and it loads it up
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73 again.
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74 ********************************************************************************
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75 IF YOU HAD THE ATTENTION OF THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR A MINUTE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?
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76 *******************************************************************************
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77 When the space shuttle comes into the atmosphere there is a blackout
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78 period of about 15 minutes. This has to do with the plasma that is generated
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79 as it enters the atmosphere. I know there is a way to communicate with the
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80 space shuttle during this period. In any plasma or dielectric field there is
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81 a certain frequency that will not penetrate and there is at least one frequency
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82 that will. They just haven't been playing around hard enough to find those
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83 frequencies.
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84 *******************************************************************************
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85 Is PEACE something that is attainable? Is it a quality of human
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86 civilization or is it merely a state of mind? And if you are in that
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87 state of mind can external events disturb your "peace?" Is there such
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88 a thing as a "moderate degree of peace" or is peace an absolute, either
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89 totally here right now or totally absent right now?
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90 ****************************************************************************
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91 What do Christians mean when they say they are surrendering their
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92 life to Christ (God)? Is it perhaps the "FLOW" of human energy generated
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93 by other peoples wills, what they consider best for you and society, what
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94 they want to happen and what they believe needs to be done?
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95 Are they perhaps surrendering their will to the will of others?
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96 ***************************************************************************
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97 Imagine for a minute that UFO's were actually the vehicles of
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98 extraterrestial beings who are watching us as we evolve into higher order
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99 beings. How could we communicate with these beings and persuade them to
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100 use their advanced intelligence and technology to assist us in surviving
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101 the nuclear age? What could we say to them that would be persuasive enough
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102 to get their cooperation? Could we tell them that we are willing to be
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103 used by them, as agents of their empire, in return for their assistance?
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104 What superior qualities could we show them that we possess to convince them
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105 that our race is worth their effort? Why should they get actively involved?
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106 Are they already actively involved in guiding our evolution into cosmic
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107 beings? What are their motives and goals in observing our civilization?
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108 Is there any way we could assist them in achieving what they desire to
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109 achieve?
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110 ******************************************************************************
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111 Many studies have indicated that we have a propensity to
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112 enter into either heterosexual or homosexual experiences at various times in
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113 our lives. Why then do we persist to claim validity in the terms "homosexual"
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114 and "heterosexual" when in fact we are neither? Homosexual and heterosexual
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115 are valid terms to define specific actions, not to describe the complete
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116 behavior pattern of an individual. Could it be that we use these words to
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117 feel "safe" or "right" in comparison to others? How many people who claim to
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118 be heterosexuals are just ignoring the truth of the matter ... that they
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119 actually have homosexual desires, fantasies and experiences?
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120 ******************************************************************************
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121 It has been said that competition breeds prejudice and that prejudice
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122 is a form of evil. If this is true, why do we find such amusement in sports
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123 competition? Are sports evil? It doesn't appear that there is a simple
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124 answer, but most popular sports today are structured so that there is a
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125 winning team and a loosing team. How could we structure sports so that
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126 more than one party could "WIN" and that no party would need to loose?
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127 If we managed to do this, and I believe we could, would it be a positive
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128 step forward in human evolution? Would the masses accept it or are they
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129 so programmed with the dualistic winner/loser mentality that they could
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130 not appreciate a sport unless there was a "top dog?" What about
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131 the possibility that we could challenge each other in positive ways without
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132 creating losers and without the need for winners? What would the rules of
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133 such sports be like?
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134 *******************************************************************************
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135 Imagine if you will that every person you meet already knows every
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136 piece of information you could possible tell them about your personal life.
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137 How would you react to people? You probably would not bullshit them, because
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138 you would see immediately how they perceived that you were just bullshitting.
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139 You would probably be more willing to talk about intimate details of your
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140 life with relative strangers and your capacity to love friends would be
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141 greatly enhanced. Try it and see. I have been living this way for several
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142 years and my experience tells me that there is a certain element of truth
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143 to the basic proposition that we all know everything about each other.
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144 Perhaps there is some subtle wavelength of mental or spiritual communication
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145 or perhaps we simply read each others body language and physical character-
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146 istics like you would read a book. It is well known that lovers can
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147 telepathize and "hear each other think." Perhaps we do this subconsciously
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148 all the time and that it only becomes conscious when we are "high" on love
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149 or drugs.
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150 ****************************************************************************
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151
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152 PEACEFUL PAUL
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153
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154 SOURCE: ABBS PCNET, SAN FRANCISCO 415-948-xxxx
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155 |
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156 DATE: 7/25/83
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157
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158 *** SPACE.INITIATIVE.TEX 28-JUN-83
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159 PARENT=SPACE.INITIATIVE USAGE= 19
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160 THE SPACE INITIATIVE
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161 Findings and Declarations
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162 Section 1: We the People of the State of California do find
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163 and declare that,
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164 a) The National Goal of Landing a Man on the Moon
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165 demonstrated that American talent, committment, and resources
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166 could accomplish a task once believed impossible, and
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167 b) An unprecedented quarter-century of Space Exploration
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168 has greatly expanded our understanding of the Earth, our
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169 companion planets, and the universe beyond, and
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170 c) NASA's programs have resulted in extraordinary
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171 scientific and technological advances that have returned,
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172 over twelve years, approximately $14 billion for each
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173 $1 billion invested, and
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174 d) A reusable Space Shuttle is now available to transport
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175 materials and products back to Earth from research and
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176 industrial facilities that can utilize the unique resources
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177 and environment of space, and
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178 e) Establishing such orbiting facilities with international
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179 participation will reaffirm our society's creative leadership
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180 in a rapidly changing world by combining a pioneering spirit
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181 with a positive vision for our future.
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182 Text of Transmittal: Section 2:
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183 Within one month after enactment of this statute, the
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184 Governor of the State of California shall sign and cause to
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185 be delivered to the President of the United States, the
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186 following, that:
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187 The People of the State of California respectfully request
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188 the President and Congress of these United States to direct
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189 the National Aeronautics and Space Administration to
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190 establish, before this decade is out, a permanently inhabited
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191 Space Station, as the cornerstone of an expanded and
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192 continuing civilian space program for the benefit of all
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193 humanity.
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194 +++ NO SUBMESSAGES +++
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195
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196 COMMAND? READ SPACE.INITIATIVE.PHO
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197
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198 *** SPACE.INITIATIVE.PHO 28-JUN-83
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199 PARENT=SPACE.INITIATIVE USAGE= 22
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200 If you wish to help with the petition drive to get the Space
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201 Initiative on the ballot, here is the latest list of phone
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202 numbers to call to get in touch with the campaign.
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203 San Francisco: Bill Patterson, (415) 621-xxxx
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204 Santa Clara County: Bruce M. Gowens, (408) 272-xxxx
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205 Santa Cruz County: Chris Meek, (408) 429-xxxx
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206 *This is a wide area, so volunteers are urgently needed.
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207 North Alameda County: Marc Jones, (415) 658-xxxx
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208 Marin County: Brooke Graves, (415) 456-xxxx
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209 Sacramento: Don Robertson, (916) 489-xxxx
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210 Santa Rosa: Lucy Buss, (707) 887-xxxx
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211 San Luis Obispo: Richard Sotello, (805) 481-xxxx
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212 Anaheim: Ed Sitch, (714) 891-xxxx
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213 Los Angeles: Nelson Kruger, (213) 337-xxxx
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214 South San Mateo Co: Diana Adamic, (415) 367-xxxx
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215 *No calls after 10 PM, please.
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216 +++ SUBMESSAGES +++
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217 TSI.PHONE.CHANGES 25-JUL-83
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218
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219 COMMAND? READ TSI.PHONE.CHANGES
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220
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221 *** TSI.PHONE.CHANGES 25-JUL-83
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222 PARENT=SPACE.INITIATIVE.PHO USAGE= 5
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223 There have been a few changes to the phone contacts for
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224 The Space Initiative. Bill Patterson (San Francisco) and
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225 Lucy Buss (Santa Rosa) are no longer the coordinators for their
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226 areas, so don't call them. Don Robertson's number (Sacramento)
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227 has changed to (916) 447-xxxx.
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228 +++ NO SUBMESSAGES +++
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229
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230 COMMAND? READ NUC-WAR-PREVENTION
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231
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232 *** NUC-WAR-PREVENTION 24-JUL-83
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233 PARENT=CONFERENCES USAGE= 13
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234 The Nuclear War Prevention Coalition exists to share information
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235 and coordinate activities amoung organizations in the mid-peninsula area
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236 which are concerned with nuclear arms control and/or disarmament.
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237 The Coalition is administrated by the Mid-Peninsula Peace Center.
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238 The Peace Center maintains a calender of activities which is
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239 also distributed in the area. For your next event, call them at 326-xxxx
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240 to choose a time which does not conflict with other plans and to get
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241 your event onto this calender.
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242 +++ NO SUBMESSAGES +++
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243
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244 COMMAND? READ REFERENCES
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245
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246 *** REFERENCES 2-APR-83
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247 PARENT=CONFERENCES USAGE= 80
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248 THIS NODE OF THE SACDF COMMUNITREE CONTAINS INFORMATION ON NUCLEAR WEAPONS
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249 AND NUCLEAR WAR REFERENCE MATERIALS.
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250 +++ SUBMESSAGES +++
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251 BOOKS 2-APR-83
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252 NUC-ARMS-HOTLINE 5-APR-83
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253 CARL-SAGAN-PIECE 1-JUL-83
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254
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255 COMMAND? READ NUC-ARMS-HOTLINE
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256
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257 *** NUC-ARMS-HOTLINE 5-APR-83
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258 PARENT=REFERENCES USAGE= 56
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259 THE COUNCIL FOR A LIVABLE WORLD MAINTAINS A 24 HOUR HOTLINE WITH RECORDED
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260 UP-TO-THE-MINUTE LEGISLATIVE INFORMATION ON NUCLEAR ARMS CONTROL ISSUES.
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261 THE NUMBER IS (202) 543-xxxx.
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262 +++ NO SUBMESSAGES +++
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263
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264 COMMAND? READ BOOKS
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265
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266 *** BOOKS 2-APR-83
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267 PARENT=REFERENCES USAGE= 72
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268 HERE IS A LIST OF BOOKS ON NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND WAR.
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269 ** GENERAL **
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270 "THE FATE OF THE EARTH" BY JONATHAN SCHELL (1982). THE BEST RECENT TREATMENT
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271 OF THE SUBJECT.
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272 "WITH ENOUGH SHOVELS: REAGAN, BUSH & NUCLEAR WAR" BY ROBERT SCHEER (1982),
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273 RANDOM HOUSE.
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274 "THE NUCLEAR DELUSION: SOVIET-AMERICAN RELATIONS IN THE ATOMIC AGE" BY GEORGE
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275 F. KENNAN (1982), PANTHEON
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276 "NUCLEAR ILLUSION AND REALITY" BY LORD ZUCKERMAN (1982), VIKING PRESS
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277 "NUCLEAR WAR: WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU ?" BY GROUND ZERO (ROGER MOLANDER; 1982),
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278 POCKET BOOKS
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279 "BEYOND THE FREEZE: THE ROAD TO NUCLEAR SANITY" BY FORD, KENDALL, AND NADIS
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280 (1982), BEACON PRESS
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281 "WHAT ABOUT THE RUSSIANS ?" BY SANFORD GOTTLIEB (1982)
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282 "REAL SECURITY" BY RICHARD BARNET (1981)
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283 "THE GLOBAL POLICIES OF PEACE" BY J.H. BARTON (1981)
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284 "NUCLEAR NIGHTMARES" BY NIGEL CALDER (1980)
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285 "ENERGY/WAR: BREAKING THE NUCLEAR LINK" BY A.B. AND L.H. LOVINS (1980)
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286 "THE DANGERS OF NUCLEAR WAR" EDITED BY GRIFFITHS AND POLYANI (1979)
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287 "THE LAST CHANCE: NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION AND ARMS CONTROL" BY W. EPSTEIN (1979)
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288 "THE GAME OF DISARMAMENT" BY A. MYRDAL (1979)
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289 "A FAREWELL TO ARMS CONTROL" BY E. YOUNG (1972)
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290 ** TECHNICAL **
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291 "THE EFFECTS OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS" EDITED BY GLASSTONE AND DOLAN (1977), 3RD
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292 EDITION, PUBLISHED BY DOD AND DOE. THIS IS THE DEFINITIVE SCIENTIFIC TREATMENT
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293 OF THE SUBJECT.
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294 "THE EFFECTS OF NUCLEAR WAR" (1979), OFFICE OF TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT, U.S.
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295 CONGRESS, LIBRARY OF CONGRESS NUMBER 79-600080
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296 "LONG-TERM WORLDWIDE EFFECTS OF MULTIPLE NUCLEAR-WEAPONS DETONATIONS" (1975)
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297 NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES
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298 "RESEARCH GUIDE TO CURRENT MILITARY AND STRATEGIC AFFAIRS" BY WILLIAM H. ARKIN
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299 (1981), PUBLISHED BY THE INSTITUTE FOR POLICY STUDIES
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300 +++ NO SUBMESSAGES +++
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301
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302 COMMAND? READ USERS
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303
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304 *** USERS 16-JUL-81
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305 PARENT=CONFERENCES USAGE=158
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306 USE 'ADDTO USERS' IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF TO OTHERS ON THE SYSTEM.
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307 INCLUDE KEYWORDS ABOUT YOUR INTERESTS, BACKGROUND, ETC. IF YOU WISH TO MAKE IT
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308 EASY FOR OTHERS TO FIND YOU.
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309
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310 'ADDTO <YOUR-NAME> TO LEAVE MESSAGES TO YOURSELF OR OTHERS (USING
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311 <THEIR-NAMES> OF COURSE). NOTE THAT ANYONE CAN READ MESSAGES ATTACHED TO YOUR
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312 NAME. 'READ PRIVATE' IF YOU SEEK PRIVACY.
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313 I am a member of the steering committee of SACDF, and a Co-Director of
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314 the Palo Alto chapter of CPSR, a part time graduate student in
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315 Electrical Engineering/Computer Science, and full time research staff
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316 member at the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center.
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317
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318 I can be reached at (415) 494-xxxx during the day,
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319 and on the ARPANET at JLarson@PARC-MAXC.
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320
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321
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322 Don't hesitate to contact me for information about either CPSR or SACDF.
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323 +++ NO SUBMESSAGES +++
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324
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325 COMMAND? READ IDF
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326
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327 *** IDF 27-APR-83
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328 PARENT=USERS USAGE= 49
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329 IDF is the International Disarmament Forum, a non profit corporation
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330 founded by Hal Harvey, Mike Shuman, and Eric Horvitz. We are trying
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331 to help educate people on campuses and in general on the arms race,
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332 and are working to develop new ideas for solutions to the arms race
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333 Our phone number is 415-328-xxxx. Please call or send mail (to
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334 644 Emerson St, # 30, P. A. CA 94301) for more informaiton.
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335 *** JOHNMATTOX 28-APR-83
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336 PARENT=USERS USAGE= 36
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337 John Mattox is codirector of SACDF for the spring quarter, and the film
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338 series coordinator. John is a PhD student in the department of applied
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339 physics. Feel free to contact him at 324-xxxx.
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340 +++ NO SUBMESSAGES +++
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341
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342 COMMAND? READ *SDL
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343
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344 *** *SDL 23-JUL-83
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345 PARENT=USERS USAGE= 11
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346 On April 28,1983 the Stanford Disarmament Lobby was formed. Attendence at this
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347 first meeting was seven. Stanford ASSU status will be obtained. Funding
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348 and cooperation will be sought. The minimum scope of the effort of the SDL
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349 on the MX will be a comprehensive outreach to the constituents of the 12th
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350 Congressional District (Ed Zschau's district). It was also noted that
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351 the Stanford Campus provides an opportunity to reach constituents of many
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352 Districts where students are registered to vote. An effort will be made
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353 to coordinate with other efforts locally and nationally.
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354 For more information call John Mattox (324-xxxx) or Paul Ashin (328-xxxx).
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355
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356 +++ NO SUBMESSAGES +++
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357
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358 COMMAND? READ WATKINS,R.
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359
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360 *** WATKINS,R. 28-JUN-83
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361 PARENT=USERS USAGE= 35
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362 Hi from Orange County, CA. I'm a new (3 mo. or so) member of
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363 CPSR, and am right now trying to inform myself on arms race
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364 and nuclear issues. Also, my view of Social Responsibility
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365 goes beyond nuclear issues...as a computer professional I am
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366 very aware of the social impact of computers in our lives,
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367 and am keenly interested in finding humanistic ways to implement
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368 computing systems.
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369 Anyone interested in similar issues, or who are responsible
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370 for the use of microcomputers in an organization, support,
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371 training, etc., please drop me a note.
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372 Bob Watkins
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373
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374 Santa Ana, CA 92704
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375 +++ NO SUBMESSAGES +++
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376
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377 COMMAND? READ NEW.TO.THIS
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378
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379 *** NEW.TO.THIS 26-JUN-83
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380 PARENT=USERS USAGE= 41
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381 Greetings to all from the San Francisco IBM/PC Users Group. My name is
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382 Ray Young and I'm president of named organization. I'm new to
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383 telecommunications in general and this form in particular. Seems like
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384 a facinating idea. Is the disk space limitation the reason for theme
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385 of this conference, or just that other branches have not sprouted?
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386 The tree in Hawaii sounds amazing but I couldn't afford the phone
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387 bill. Hope to come up with some seeds for discussion in the future,
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388 and will check back regularly. Is there a quick way to tell if anything
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389 has been added since you last logged on?
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390 Ray Young SOURCE #STU103
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391 or SF/BBS # 861-xxxx
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392 +++ SUBMESSAGES +++
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393 NEW.STUFF.COMMAND 26-JUN-83
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394 ANOTHER.NEW.STUFF 28-JUN-83
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395
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396 COMMAND? READ NEW.STUFF.COMMAND
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397
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398 *** NEW.STUFF.COMMAND 26-JUN-83
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399 PARENT=NEW.TO.THIS USAGE= 37
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400 THIS SYSTEM IS DEDICATED TO DISCUSSION OF NUCLEAR WAR ISSUES; OTHER TOPICS
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401 MAY APPEAR, BUT N.W. MSGS WILL BE GIVEN PRIORITY.
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402 TO SEE AN INDEX OF NEW STUFF ADDED SINCE YOU LAST LOGGED IN, TYPE:
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403 I CONFERENCES S 26-JUN-83
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404 WHICH WILL SHOW YOU DATES + TITLES OF ALL MSGS ON OR AFTER 26 JUNE.
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405
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406
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407 END OF FILE. LET'S GET GOING, FOLKS. THIS IS THE NEW AGE AND WE
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408 HAVE TO START THINKING AND ACTING IN NEW WAYS! NETWORK!!!
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409 SHARED EXPERIENCE MULTIPLIES VALUE!
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410
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411
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412 ......................................................
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413 Please DON'T do the above again! This is supposed to be an open
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414 forum, not a private soapbox. I think using 2/3 of the systems
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415 storage for one person's idea of what is important is just a
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416 bit excessive (at least if it is all in one chunk!).
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417 As for some of the topics:
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418 1. Tell me the mass, charge, angular momentum, & relative velocities
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419 of those two black holes and I can get an answer for you. Most likely
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420 result is a bigger black hole.
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421 2. The plasma sheath problem is somewhat more complicated than
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422 you seem to think. The composition etc are NOT constant, thus the
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423 frequency required would be shifting constantly.
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424 3. As for your "sports where everyone wins", have you looked into
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425 role-playing games? They aren't necessarily sports, but they may
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426 provide a starting point.
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427
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428 As a final note, I might respect your use of the preceding 400
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429 lines more if the material hadn't so obviously been dumped UN-EDITED
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430 from another system.
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431 _________________________Leonard_____________________________
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432
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433 }[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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434 THIS DISK FILLED UP SOMEWHAT FASTER THAN I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT POSSIBLE. OH WELL, THAT'S LIFE.
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435 I'VE BEEN AWAY FOR THE WEEKEND (AND HAD A LOT OF FUN), SO I'M A BIT BEHIND, BUT I PROMISE I'LL TRY TO CATCH UP.
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436 REGARDING THE QUESTION ABOUT RAPE BEING PERFORMED BY SOMEONE THE VICTIM KNOWS IN THE MAJORITY OF CASES, THAT
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437 IS A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER. ACCORDING TO STUDIES DONE BY THE U.S. CENSUS, THE FBI, AND THE N.O.R., 50% OF RAPES ARE
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438 "AQUAINTANCE" RAPES, AND ONLY 3.5 TO 10% OF RAPES ARE EVEN REPORTED. IF YOU KNOW THE ASSAILANT EVEN SLIGHTLY, CHANCES
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439 ARE YOU WON'T REPORT IT, BECAUSE THE D.A., POLICE, ETC., ASSUME THAT IF YOU KNEW YOUR ASSAILANT, YOU PROBABLY
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440 BROUGHT IT ON BY TEMPTING THEM. AND IF IT DOES GET TO COURT, IF THE ASSAILANT DIDN'T HURT THE VICTIM PHYSICALLY
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441 (SUCH AS MUTILATION), HE IS LIKELY TO RECEIVE A FINE OR A SUSPENDED SENTENCE. WOULD YOU REPORT A CRIME KNOWING THAT
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442 EVEN IF YOU GET A CONVICTION, HE WON'T EVEN GO TO JAIL FOR A DAY, AND WILL WANT REVENGE? NOT ME.
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443 CHARLOTTE, I'VE FOUND THE ISSUE OF BYTE MAGAZINE REFERRED TO EARLIER. ITS SEPTEMBER 1982, VOL. 7, NO.9., AND
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444 THOUGH IT HAS A NUMBER OF VERY GOOD AND INFORMATIVE ARTICLES, ITS NOT QUITE WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. HAND-HELD
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445 SPEECH SYNTHESIS FOR THE NONVOCAL, NEW TERMINALS THAT TALK FOR THE BLIND, ETC.. WHILE THESE ARE GREAT, THEY AREN'T
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446 QUITE THE THING. ANOTHER SUGGESTION MIGHT BE FOR YOU TO CHECK THE LIBRARY AT THE OREGON HEALTH SCIENCES UNIVERSITY
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447 UP ON THE HILL. THEY HAVE THE LARGEST SELECTION OF MATERIAL RELATING TO THIS SUBJECT.
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448
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449 [][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM.[][][][][][]
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450 ^^-^^^-^^^^^-^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^-^^^-^^^^^
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451 RE Black hole collisions:
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452 The January 1977 Scientific American has a great article on the quantum
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453 mechanics of black holes. To answer the question, thee result would be a black
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454 hole that is larger (i.e. has a larger Schwarzschild radius (event horizion)
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455 )
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456 then would be predicted by merely adding the two masses. The formula is:
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457
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458 R = 2 G M
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459 -----
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460 2
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461 C
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462
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463 Where G is Newtons constant of gravity, M is the mass, and c is the speed of light.
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464
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465 Well let's say we have two black holes, one of mass M1 the other M2. The result
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466 is:
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467
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468 OOPS, one more thing. R is the result of the two combined black holes.
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469
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470 2 G (M1 + M2)
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471 R > -------------
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472 2
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473 C
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474
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475 Well, c and G can't (??) change therefore we must have gotten some more
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476 mass from somewhere.
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477
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478 To pioneer:
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479 About my /0 numbers (from now on to be referred to as the "UNREAL"
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480 numbers), this is where I got the idea:
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481
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482 A
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483 --- = C
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484 B
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485
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486 Because,
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487
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488 A = C * B
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489
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490 Well, if you take 0
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491 ---
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492 0
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493 it can be simplified to:
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494
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495 0 = C * 0 using the second equation.
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496 Therefore the solution set to "C" in either equation is the
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497 set of real numbers.
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498
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499 Now, if you take 1 or any other non 0 number
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500 ---
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501 0
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502
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503 it can be simplified to:
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504
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505 1 = C * 0 using the second equation.
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506 Therefore the solution set to "C" in this case is null
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507 if we only include the real and imaginary numbers as possible
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508 solution sets, but if we include the UNREAL numbers we now have
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509 a solution. I remember the imaginary numbers starting the same
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510 way.
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511
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512 One interesting thing is that we loose the "uniqueness" of one dimension
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513 the smallest thing we can work with is a complete number line like
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514 all the reals, but not a PARTICULAR real number. Talk to me about 4D
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515 Maybe these two concepts are more closely related than either of us
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516 realizes.
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517 BYE THE DOCTOR
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518 ^^-^^^-^^^^^-^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^-^^^-^^^^^
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519 _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
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520 - Sounds very good Doctor, but what practical use would it be? (Maybe I'm just-
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521 - unimaginative.) It would be fun working with problems like that if you were -
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522 - a "pure" mathematician who worked with number theory. -
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523 - -
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524 - As to a four-dimensional creature, here is my theory: -
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525 - -
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526 - I've always equated Time = the 4th dimension. I don't know how I thought -
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527 - this up, but I think somebody told me that was what physicists also equated -
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528 - the 4th dimension to. Anyway, a 4th-dimensional creature would have heighth -
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529 - length, and width and would also take up some period of time. -
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530 - The words are easy to talk about but it is hard to conceive of being more-
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531 - than one "time" at a time. (Excuse the pun.) -
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532 - -
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533 - Here's another thought-provoker: What if two black holes were put into a -
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534 - close orbit around each other and sent spinning through the universe. You -
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535 - know, kind of like a bolo. What kind of havoc could they wreak and what -
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536 - forces would be acting in the space between the two Bhs? ...........Pioneer -
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537 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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538 ^^-^^^-^^^^^-^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^-^^^-^^^^^
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539 Pioneer: First, imaginary numbers were considered impractical for about 100
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540 years before some one noticed that they are VERY useful in electronics. So,
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541 who knows what this may be useful for. As for the black holes, try this one!
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542 "ordinary" black holes are a singularity (a point). How about a black hole
|
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543 that is a line connected on itself (a hoop) then the event horizon would be
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544 torodial <sp> (a doughnut) shaped. What forces and what would happen to
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545 something passing throught the hole?
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546
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547 Back to the unreals. The set of unreal numbers is a set of infinite lines
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548 in which the set of reals is a subset. I keep spotting similarities to the
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549 fourth dimension. Unfortunately, I have trouble conceptualizing them, let
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550 alone type them out.
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551
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552 Back to 4D. The easiest way for me to visualize 4D is to take 3D and
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553 call it a HYPERPOINT (a piont that has infinite magnitude in 3 dimensions).
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554 Then the fourth dimension is a hyperline, a series of hyperpoints. further
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555 along the line is the future and on the other side is the past. Now,
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556 what makes up a hyperplane and hyperspace? Sorry to bring in the 5th and 6th
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557 dimensions.
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558 BYE THE DOCTOR
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559 ^^-^^^-^^^^^-^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^-^^^-^^^^^
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561 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 07 Sep 83 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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562 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19:30 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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563 O heart trampled on: why chase a wraith creature? Why read motives
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564 into her gestures, or let your eyes hungrily follow her dusty prints in
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565 the path? For the path leads up into the mountains, a winding, tortuous
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566 way, and ends in a sand-carved stairwell where the trees are no more...
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567 so turn back, O grief-stricken one, to the forest where you thought the
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568 path began. Wend your way through the tall sighing grasses, and pause to
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||
569 observe the dew in the grasses where she slept, the dew that bears salt...
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570 Thence go your way comforted, and look back no longer, and slowly your
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571 healing will begin. Look--your friends await your presence at the Inn!
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572 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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573 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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574 Doctor:
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575 What prevents a "hoop" from colapsing into a singularity?
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576 The Master
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577 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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||
578 The answer is elementary: TIME, the fourth dimension, holds back the hoop's
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579 collapse! Silence
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580 ==================================================================
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581 PAM.--Is rape "performed"?
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582 PAM. -- Is rape "performed"? If so, why? If not, why use that verb?
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||
583 ========================================================================
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584 Doctor: 0/0 is of use in the real world. Take Ohm's Law-
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585 E=I*R or I=E/R . In a superconductor the resistance is 0.
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||
586 Form a ring of a superconductor, the resistance is zero, the
|
||
587 applied voltage is zero. Thus the current is equal to 0/0.
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||
588 What does this mean? It means that the current can have ANY value!
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||
589 As for the toroidal black hole, they have been studied for
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590 some time. "All" you have to do is spin a "normal" black hole at
|
||
591 a sizable fraction of lightspeed. It is kept from collapsing by
|
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592 the high spin rate. As for what happens if you go thru the hole
|
||
593 -- well, first off the tidal forces would rip you into sub-atomic
|
||
594 particles before you got there. But it is thought that the "hole
|
||
595 in space-time" (in the center of the torus) would lead to another
|
||
596 universe. Unfortunately, theory also says that if it does, then going back
|
||
597 thru it WOULDN'T get you back here. Instead, you'd wind up in a
|
||
598 THIRD universe.
|
||
599 The black holes orbiting each other would lose energy in the form
|
||
600 of gravity waves which would possibly make things rather interesting
|
||
601 but would also cause them to spiral into one another.
|
||
602 If I find time, I'll put the formulas for tidal forces & black hole
|
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603 decay on line.
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604 ______________________Leonard_______________________________
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||
605
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606 **********************************************************************
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607 WOW! NOW YOU PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO THINK. I AM DULYIMPRESSED.
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608 KEEP IT UP. YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW THAT WHAT YOU SAY HERE IS,IN SOME
|
||
609 SMALL WAY, GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN MANY PEOPLES LIVES ACROSS
|
||
610 THE NATION AS I RE-DISTRIBUTE THE BEST OF YOUR THOUGHTS. PEACEFUL PAUL.
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||
611
|
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612 PAUL
|
||
613
|
||
614 ****************
|
||
615 Like it or not, WE ARE FOUR-DIMENSIONED CREATURES! Think about it.
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||
616 ****************
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||
617 Can rape be performed with a toroidal black hole? Would you want to try?
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||
618 ****************
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||
619 Shortest message on disk so far
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||
620 ****************
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||
621 Who was that masked lunatic that did an almost-infinite download to this system?
|
||
622 ****************
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623 GUESS THIS DISK HAS HAD IT!
|
||
624 MASKED LUNATIC? HARDLY. THINK ABOUT IT.
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||
625 *****************
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626 GO DUCKS!!!
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||
627 *****************
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628 To Pam and Ducks fan: Please don't erase my messages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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629 HELP, THERE IS NO ROOM!!! SORRY DOC. ********* SILLY WILLY ****
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