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92730 2-JUN 01:09 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Anybody home? (Re: Msg 92729)
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From: RICKLT To: WDTV5
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It seems not much is going on lately, but I keep checking in faithfully
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for each days messages. Hopefully it will pick up again. Rick
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92746 4-JUN 14:51 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Anybody home? (Re: Msg 92730)
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From: 01GEN40 To: WDTV5
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Hello Gene,
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I was wondering about this same thing when I first logged on
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this morning, 6/4. There were about 28 or so messages in this
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Forum in one weeks period. Has everyone gone on vacation all
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at the same time??? It is getting quite thin out here! This
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is not the first time I have seen less than 30 messages in just
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a weeks time either. It has happened a few times. I can see
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the lack of messages when everyone goes to the Fests.
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Oh, BTW Gene. I have finally had GREAT success with this
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RLL(MFM) HD. I am booting from it, it is 100% restored and I
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love it! I do not have to wait for the HD any more before I
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start the CoCo. This HD is ready to go in no time. I thank
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you from the bottom of my heart for all the help and just plain
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positive feedback you have given me.
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I have one of those external floppy drives that Tandy had
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at one time (less the drive) and have installed the HD in it.
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I have a fan mounted on top of the case to suck cool air into
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it to keep it running cool. I can actually leave it running
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without worrying about it spewing its inards all over my desk!
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Once again, THANKS Gene and thanks to any and all who have
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held my hand through this ordeal, THANKS!
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See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92747 4-JUN 15:04 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Anybody home? (Re: Msg 92746)
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From: WDTV5 To: 01GEN40
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Gee, I hope that fan is solid. The floppies supplies weren't rated for
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what is euphamisticly called CCS. The fan will hold it for a while, but
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I'd bet that transformer isaround 250 degrees down in its core.
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I'd look around for a pc supply and hang it onto the back of the box, or
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even lay it on the floor running the cable up to the drive box. Thats what
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I have here, but it was big enough to run it all, 4 drives, the coco3 and
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the mpi. The coco3, with a 2 meg ram kit, never rises more tna 10 degrees
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over room temp even with a bunch of junk laying on the top! The only
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problem is the noise the pc's fan makes, it needs a muffler. 5x noiseier
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than the fan in the Amiga 2k on the next table. I have more mail so better
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go.
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Cheers, Gene, Gene
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92748 4-JUN 15:33 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Anybody home? (Re: Msg 92747)
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From: 01GEN40 To: WDTV5
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Hello again, Gene,
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The case my HD is in has no power supply. I have removed it and
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the cable connector as well. I run the HD cables through the slot
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in the back of the case. As well, the power cable too. I have the
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HD powered by a tower case power supply, 250 Watt, should power
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most anything. One of these days I may get ambishish enough to
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have that power supply run everything. This Tandy external floppy
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case is a half height white plastic cover that slides over a steel
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chassis. It was designed, I think, for their Tandy 1000 line of
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PCs. I have no worries about the fan keeping it cool, as a matter
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of fact, I just reached over and touched the case in various spots
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and it is completely cool to the touch. :-) I just lifted it and
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fealt the steel chassis and it is just slightly warm, not much
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more than the plastic case. My CoCo is definitely warmer then my
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HD is! I feel that this HD will last me for quite some time.
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92749 4-JUN 21:36 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Anybody home? (Re: Msg 92748)
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From: WDTV5 To: 01GEN40
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Ahh Soo; I was preaching to the choir so to speak. Yes, the power can do
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the whole thing. I expect if it sneezed, there isn't enough load on the
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5 volt line to restart it. Thats been my findings here. Putting the whole
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thing on that supply would be a great idea. The mpi is harder to convert
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than the coc was for me. The coco went just fine till I tried to use
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the seriel port 6 months later and discoverd I didn't have power on the
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buffer chips for it! Nother jumper 4" long and the case top hasn't been
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off since except to put the 2 megs kit in. Rigging the mpi takes a bunch
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of thought and circuit traceing due to that device having its regulator
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reference chip in an odd place on the board. Once done tho, its all
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coolsville.
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Cheers Gene, Gene
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92781 11-JUN 11:43 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Anybody home? (Re: Msg 92749)
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From: 01GEN40 To: WDTV5
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Hello Gene,
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I do not know how long it will take me to make a decision on
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whether to power everything from the 1 supply or not. But, when I
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do and if I decide to goe with it, you can be sure that I may have
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more than my share of questions on the procedure. I do have the
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Service Manual for the CoCo 3 and I am certain that that will be
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of great help. I am learning to build curcuits from schematics in
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this Computer Repair course and I must say it is most enjoyable to
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build one and have it work right without seeing billows of smoke
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rising. So far I have only burned one component, a Zener diode.
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I was working late and the lesson told me to place a resistor in
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one connection and momentarily touch another component lead. I
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touched the wrong lead and the diode smoked and burned my fingers.
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That should have said 'diode', 3 lines up, not resistor! I only
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had the 2 Zener diodes and I had future curcuits that needed both
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so I bought a pack of 6 for the same price that I could have got-
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ten 1 from the school. Needless to say, I did not burn any more
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diodes! Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92794 12-JUN 22:57 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Anybody home? (Re: Msg 92781)
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From: WDTV5 To: 01GEN40
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Gee, why does that not surprise me? 'cause I've done it too, several times
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in the last 45+ years of lassoing electrons for a living!
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Cheers Gene, Gene
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92821 18-JUN 12:00 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Anybody home? (Re: Msg 92794)
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From: 01GEN40 To: WDTV5
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Hello Gene,
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I see the real need for an off-line reader now. I think that
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this message was in reference to my burning out a diode, right?
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If it is, then I guess it can happen even to the best of 'em!
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From what I am getting, from people I talk to that know com-
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puter repair, it has become mainly a matter of board swapping.
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Well, more like board/device swapping. In this day of compu-
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ters, users do not want to be left without their "toy" for too
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length of time. So, the quickest and easiest way to get it to
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the user, in a reasonable amount of time, would be "swapping
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out" to determin the faulty device, charge the user for part(s)
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and labor and send him/her on their happy way.
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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End of Thread.
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92731 2-JUN 06:58 General Information
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RE: SCREWY SCREENS (Re: Msg 92728)
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From: RONMAGOO To: ADITNAVEL
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No, I don't have anything like that, but I do have a Disto RGB signal to
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composite monitor convertor. I'll have to check that out... Thanks -=RON=-
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92738 3-JUN 07:30 General Information
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RE: SCREWY SCREENS (Re: Msg 92725)
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From: RONMAGOO To: WDTV5
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This system has a Disto 4in1 board instead of a Multi Pak. I don't
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even get a sign-on or a cursor. After doing some testing with a spare
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machine, I am sure something is wrong with the upgrade boards, but it
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bothers me what caused it ! I checked several items on the Coco board
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that were memtioned in the service manual. At least what I checked is
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still OK. I just worry about blowing replacements also if I haven't
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resolved what caused them to fail in the first place. Thanks for your
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interest.
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-= RON =-
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92740 3-JUN 20:40 General Information
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RE: SCREWY SCREENS (Re: Msg 92738)
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From: WDTV5 To: RONMAGOO
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Humm, I'd almost bet a beer theres an address line messed up. This is one
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of those that will nearly always require an oscilloscope (sp) to trace
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out. I've got a good 100 mhz scope, but thats not doing you any good if
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my probes won't reach to your 20. Theres a couple of folks here who can
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do this sort of thing, Marty and Ricku come to mind first. ?Whats it do
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if the SCII is pulled, do you get an rsdos signon then?
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Cheers - Gene
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92753 4-JUN 23:44 General Information
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RE: SCREWY SCREENS (Re: Msg 92740)
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From: RONMAGOO To: WDTV5
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I do have a friend with an oscilloscope, but he says he needs a signal to
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read waveforms. With no cursor, I don't see how I can give him any. I'LL
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try pulling the SCII and see what that does.
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-= RON =-
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92756 6-JUN 00:16 General Information
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RE: SCREWY SCREENS (Re: Msg 92753)
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From: WDTV5 To: RONMAGOO
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Humm, not too sure the friend would know what he is looking at! Not having
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a cursor is a very small item compared to seeing if the system clock is
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actually ticking away at 1.879 mhz for instance. And that s/b 1.79 mhz, darned
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fat fingers here. What I'm trying to say is theres lots more to check besides
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the video output line in there. Strip it to just the coc and the monitor, then
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see what you get, both on the monitor, and on a tv! The monitor might even be
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at fault, thats why the temporary tv check.
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Cheers Ron, Gene
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92758 7-JUN 06:56 General Information
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RE: SCREWY SCREENS (Re: Msg 92756)
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From: RONMAGOO To: WDTV5
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My friend has clanced at the service manual. He know a lot more about it
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than I do. He is on vacation. I sent my memory boards off the Tony at Disto
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to check them out. I'll keep you posted when my friend get back and I hear
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from Tony.
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-= RON =-
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92760 7-JUN 22:21 General Information
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RE: SCREWY SCREENS (Re: Msg 92758)
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From: WDTV5 To: RONMAGOO
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Gee I hope this reply works better than attempted mail replies this evening,
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I quit trying to reply my mail after the first 2 msgs and my replies fell
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into a black hole with some kind of a "device full" message! Anyway, do
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keep us posted!
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Cheers, Gene
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End of Thread.
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92732 2-JUN 16:20 General Information
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Messages
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From: MROWEN01 To: ALL
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Hi,
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Several people have been commenting on the lack of messages in the forum
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lately. I believe that many people have been moving to Internet sources. I
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check in here often myself. The Cocolist server always has more messages. It
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also allows you to communicate with a larger community of users. As I said, I
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still read the forum messages, but the real action now seems to be on the
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internet list servers. If anyone needs help getting on a listserver, let me
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know. You're missing alot if you don't subscribe! Thanks.
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Mike Rowen
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mrowen01@delphi.com
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rowen@fwa.natp.gmeds.com
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92733 2-JUN 20:17 General Information
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RE: Messages (Re: Msg 92732)
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From: THETAURUS To: MROWEN01
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Personally I hope things start picking up here again soon. It probably will
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we just need more interesteing topics to go on. It's mptnot like nothing
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new is going on in OS-9Ville :-)
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I just hope the addition of the Internet access isn't gonna kill us<G>
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92734 2-JUN 21:15 General Information
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RE: Messages (Re: Msg 92732)
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From: CLTUCKER To: MROWEN01
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How does one reach the Cocolist server on the Internet? Commands,etc?(g)
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cl
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92735 2-JUN 22:16 General Information
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RE: Messages (Re: Msg 92734)
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From: MROWEN01 To: CLTUCKER
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In case you don't already know....
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A listserver is a host that maintains a "member" list. You "subscribe" to
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listservers to be added to their list. Each subscriber mails to the list-
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server and the list server echoes the message to everyone in the list. The
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result is similar to a forum here, but you only require internet mail access.
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To subscribe to the coco listserver, enter mail and then at the TO: prompt
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enter : internet"listserv@pucc.princeton.edu"
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You can leave the SUBJECT: field blank. In the body of the message type :
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SUBSCRIBE COCO Your Name
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Your Name should be your first and last name. Then send it <Ctrl Z>.
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You will get a message telling you that you've been added to the list. To
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send a message to everyone on the list address any mail to :
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coco@pucc.princeton.edu
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If you don't like being on the list, follow the above proceedure but use
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UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the mail message. You will also get a message
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from the listserver abouyt how to get more info on commands. Hope this helps.
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I wouldn't abandon this forum, but it does expand your horizons. Regards!
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Mike Rowen
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VP OS-9/6809
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OS-9 Users Group
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mrowen01@delphi.com
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rowen@fwa.natp.gmeds.com
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92736 2-JUN 22:44 General Information
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RE: Messages (Re: Msg 92733)
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From: JOHNREED To: THETAURUS
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> Personally I hope things start picking up here again soon. It probably
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> will we just need more interesteing topics to go on. It's mptnot like
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> nothing new is going on in OS-9Ville :-)
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> I just hope the addition of the Internet access isn't gonna kill us<G>
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Not to worry. Memorial day. Summer has finally arrived. People
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doing other things.
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As far as Internet access, its great, but we will ALWAYS want someplace
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(like they said in the `Cheers' TV series) "where everybody knows your
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name".
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92737 3-JUN 05:39 General Information
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RE: Messages (Re: Msg 92735)
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From: LMCCLURE To: MROWEN01
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It should also be mentioned that the Color Computer maillist can be
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accessed as a newsgroup via the Usenet reader on Delphi by accessing it
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as "bit.listserv.coco".
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This has several advantages over the mail method, cheif among them
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being able to read selective topics, and do a nonstop read of all new
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messages.
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92741 3-JUN 21:03 General Information
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RE: Messages (Re: Msg 92735)
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From: JOHNBAER To: MROWEN01
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Mike,
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> If you don't like being on the list, follow the above proceedure but use
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> UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the mail message.
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Or if the UNSUBSCRIBE doesn't work, use SIGNOFF instead. Some `List'
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want signoff, and I believe the coco list is one.
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> I wouldn't abandon this forum, but it does expand your horizons. Regards!
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Abandon.. heck no :) just try'n to stay inline with the 'ol 20/20 plan <G>.
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John -
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92752 4-JUN 22:52 General Information
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RE: Messages (Re: Msg 92741)
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From: MROWEN01 To: JOHNBAER
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I have successfully used UNSUBSCRIBE on the Cocolist, it's been awhile thoug,
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so it might have changed.
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-Mike
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92757 6-JUN 01:17 General Information
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RE: Messages (Re: Msg 92752)
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From: JOHNBAER To: MROWEN01
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I here ya Mike, but I remember reading a message awhile ago, that
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you can use `signoff'... still, couldn't hurt knowing about both :)
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John -
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92759 7-JUN 19:22 General Information
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RE: Messages (Re: Msg 92734)
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From: CARL_D To: CLTUCKER
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The easiest way to connect to the list service is with Delphi's NN reader. I
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think it defaults to the alt.answers group. From there enter 'G' and then coco.
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NN will ask if you want to goto bit.listserve.coco, hit return and enjoy.
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End of Thread.
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92739 3-JUN 12:25 Telecom (6809)
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RE: Z modem (Re: Msg 90325)
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From: EARLCASPER To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
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What's the name of your new bood on data transfer protocols? - Earl
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92742 4-JUN 13:19 General Information
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92719)
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From: 01GEN40 To: THETAURUS
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Hi Chris,
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Ya know what? I saw the envelope that that form is in just this
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morning and said to myself "Oh %#$&, I forgot it again!", so, I
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am making a note right now... jotting... There, now I will get it
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done! I have got so many things going on right now that I just do
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not know whether I am coming or going. I finally got this HD going
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on the CoCo, just about half an hour ago. As I was restoring back
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to the HD I was working on this Computer Repair lesson which is a
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hands on. Been doing some soldering and constructing and reading...
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Anyway, now that the CoCo is back on line I had to get on line
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here. I promise, I will get that form filled out and in the Snail
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Mail tomorrow 6/5. Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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92744 4-JUN 14:06 General Information
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92723)
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From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
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Hi, again, Dave,
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Yes, if ever I get the chance, you may see me at one of these
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Fests! I really would like to meet the people I associate with
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out here.
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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-*-
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92750 4-JUN 22:24 General Information
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92742)
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From: THETAURUS To: 01GEN40
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You are a busy man Gene! Glad to hear the HD is working now, and am looking
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forward to your entry form. This month's MOTD will have the entry form
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for BBS Sysops/users to fill out for those who operate or know of
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OS-9/Coco related BBS'.
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See UaYa
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Chris Perrault
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OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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-*-
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92782 11-JUN 11:48 General Information
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92750)
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From: 01GEN40 To: THETAURUS
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Hi Chris,
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I sent the form on the 5th, Monday, so you should have received it
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by now, I would say. Thanks for the reply... See ya among the
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stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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-*-
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92801 14-JUN 22:08 General Information
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92782)
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From: THETAURUS To: 01GEN40
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>>I sent the form on the 5th, Monday so you should have recieved
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it by now, I would say.<<
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Gene, I hate to be a pain but could you possibly send it again.
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I can remember getting it, but somehow, I must have screwed up
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somewhere, because I can't find it. It's possible that I deleted
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it with all my other mail messages by accident without extracting
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it to my userlist.txt file. That would be my first time doing
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this, but I can't think of anything else I might have done as all
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the other names are in the file.
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Sorry about the hassle :-(
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Btw, thanks all of you who have so far responded to my previous
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forum request for entry returns. Keep them coming, those of you
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who haven't responded yet, we still need your names to be added.
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This sourcebook will be moot if it's all blank.
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Thanks...
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Chris Perrault
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OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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92822 18-JUN 12:08 General Information
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92801)
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From: 01GEN40 To: THETAURUS
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Hi Chris,
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I sent the form in by Snail Mail, maybe it is slower than we
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thought. I just happened to make a copy of it with my entries
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so I will send it again. I think I may even send it to you
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here after I put a text file together. One way or another, you
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will get it.
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You know, I was just thinking. Could you imagine what an
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undertaking it would be if this was being done for the PCers?
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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-*-
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92867 22-JUN 20:43 General Information
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92822)
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From: THETAURUS To: 01GEN40
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>>I sent the form in by Snail Mail, maybe it is slower than we
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though.<<
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Ahhh, ok, never mind. I didn't know you snail mailed it. I must
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have confused you with someone elses email return. I probably
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won't get it for a little while, until there are a reasonable
|
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amount of snail mail returns, since they don't go directly to me.
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They go to the UG secretary I believe(am I right Howard?) who then
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mails them to me after some accumulation. Now we don't have to
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worry :-)
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>>You know, I was just thinking.<<
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Man, I better jump on that bandwagon SOON....<grin>.
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>>Could you imagine what an undertaking it would be if this was
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being done for the PCers?<<
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I'd rather not<Grin>. But on the other hand, if the actions of
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the UG should happen to help make that Sourcebook grow to PC
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proportions in the future, I won't be the LEAST BIT upset ;-)
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See Ya, and thanks for getting your feet in the water so to
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speak!
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Chris Perrault
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OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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92892 25-JUN 12:18 General Information
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92867)
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From: 01GEN40 To: THETAURUS
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Hi Chris,
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>...thanks for getting your feet in the water so to speak!
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I have been using OS-9 since 1989 so I would say that I am
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about up to my hips in that water! As long as I do not get
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in over my chin, I think I will be alright. I hope noone gets
|
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the wrong idea about that last statement. I just mean I am more
|
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at ease with OS-9 than with MS-DOG!
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Oh, by the way, I forgot to re-send that form, but since the
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situation has been figured out, I guess I do not have to now.
|
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
|
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
|
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|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92894 25-JUN 13:36 General Information
|
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92867)
|
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From: LUCKYONE To: THETAURUS
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Hi Chris,
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> Ahhh, ok, never mind. I didn't know you snail mailed it. I must
|
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> have confused you with someone elses email return. I probably
|
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> won't get it for a little while, until there are a reasonable
|
|
> amount of snail mail returns, since they don't go directly to me.
|
|
> They go to the UG secretary I believe(am I right Howard?) who then
|
|
> mails them to me after some accumulation. Now we don't have to
|
|
> worry :-)
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>
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> Chris Perrault
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> OS-9 Users' Group
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> Sourcebook Coordinator
|
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>
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Carl Boll (He set up the mail address when he was president.) was doing
|
|
most of this but for 1 or 2 months, and maybe longer,
|
|
I will be getting the smail. Carl is working in Mexico for awhile and his
|
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wife, June, is collecting our mail and then mailing it to me. I expected a
|
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packet this week but so far it hasn't come. When mail does come I will
|
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expedite it .
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Howard
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92907 26-JUN 19:55 General Information
|
|
RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92892)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: 01GEN40 (NR)
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|
|
>>...so I would say that I am about up to my hips in that
|
|
water!<<
|
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|
|
In that case let me remove all toasters and blow dryers from the
|
|
area<grin>.
|
|
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
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OS-9 Users' Group
|
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Sourcebook Coordinator
|
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|
92908 26-JUN 19:55 General Information
|
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RE: Visability (Re: Msg 92894)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: LUCKYONE
|
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|
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>>When mail does come I will expedite it.<<
|
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|
|
Thanks for clearing that up Howard. If it should be less
|
|
expensive or easier on your end to accumulate some before sending
|
|
them out, feel free to do so. Either way is fine with me, but I'm
|
|
in no rush to enter the names into the database, as I'm still
|
|
waiting on a LOT more user entries before I actually start the
|
|
data entry.
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|
Chris Perrault
|
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OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
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End of Thread.
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92743 4-JUN 14:00 General Information
|
|
RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92722)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Hi Dave,
|
|
Well, let us hope I can answer all your inquiries as I am reply-
|
|
ing on-line. :-/
|
|
As for the HD, I now have it up and running as an MFM, which is
|
|
what the drive physically and electronically is anyway. The only
|
|
part of the kernal that is modified is the BOOT module. This is
|
|
so that the Kernal is loaded from tracks 128 and 129. Floppies
|
|
have the kernal on track 34. I have a disk that has the modified
|
|
kernal and the OS9Boot file on it only. This for transfering the
|
|
"boot" to the HD. I have another boot disk with the BOOT module
|
|
patched back to its original condition, this so that I can boot
|
|
from floppy.
|
|
The XT-ROM, from B&B, goes through a memory test when first
|
|
powered up. Then it goes to look for a boot on the HD. If there
|
|
is one, it boots, if not it will automatically go to drive /d0
|
|
to look for a boot there and if found it will boot, otherwise it
|
|
returns control over to the ROM in the CoCo.
|
|
I am now using my original CoCo with 6809 in it. I tore the
|
|
whole system apart and cleaned all connections, blew out any dust,
|
|
etc. and so on... I put the system back together with the 6309
|
|
CoCo and the darned thing crashed hard when tring to format a
|
|
floppy. I pulled it and have had no problems since. As a matter
|
|
of fact, and this sounds kinda strange, the display on my CM-8 is
|
|
much brighter with this CoCo than with the 6309, so...
|
|
I have the memory checker that came with my first 512K upgrade
|
|
and I ran it on the 6309 CoCo for about 3 hours with no errors
|
|
reported, so I do not believe the problem is with memory. I do
|
|
have the service manual for the Color Computer 3 but I do not
|
|
have any equipment such as an O-Scope to run any tests on it.
|
|
About the HD running as an MFM... I have learned, through all
|
|
of this that there is no difference between an MFM and an RLL.
|
|
This ST-238R RLL HD is nothing more than an ST-225 which has been
|
|
certified by Seagate that it will format out with 50% more space.
|
|
That's it! The difference is the controller which is designed
|
|
to squeeze the bits closer together in the same amount of disk
|
|
space. The drive is certified, given a new model number and
|
|
voila, you have a 20Meg HD that will give you 30Megs of storage
|
|
space.
|
|
Well, I think I have answered some of the major queries here,
|
|
I know there were more questions but I have gone past the alotted
|
|
time that my short term memory will retain information. If there
|
|
were any others that you need answered, just let me know.
|
|
Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
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|
92769 9-JUN 19:52 General Information
|
|
RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92743)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40
|
|
|
|
|
|
> Well, let us hope I can answer all your inquiries as I am reply-
|
|
> ing on-line. :-/
|
|
|
|
I now _hate_ online composition, don't you ?
|
|
|
|
> As for the HD, I now have it up and running as an MFM, which is
|
|
> what the drive physically and electronically is anyway. The only
|
|
> part of the kernal that is modified is the BOOT module. This is
|
|
> so that the Kernal is loaded from tracks 128 and 129. Floppies
|
|
> have the kernal on track 34. I have a disk that has the modified
|
|
> kernal and the OS9Boot file on it only.
|
|
|
|
> I have another boot disk with the BOOT module
|
|
> patched back to its original condition, this so that I can boot
|
|
> from floppy.
|
|
|
|
That was as I suspected it was.
|
|
|
|
> The XT-ROM, from B&B, goes through a memory test when first
|
|
> powered up. Then it goes to look for a boot on the HD. If there
|
|
> is one, it boots, if not it will automatically go to drive /d0
|
|
> to look for a boot there and if found it will boot, otherwise it
|
|
> returns control over to the ROM in the CoCo.
|
|
|
|
That is a sensible setup. Makes it very versatile.. The only change
|
|
I would have made if I were doing it would be to check the floppy
|
|
first. That way, you could have a "standard" boot on the HD, but
|
|
when you wanted to do a "custom" boot, just stick a boot floppy in
|
|
and go.
|
|
|
|
> I am now using my original CoCo with 6809 in it.
|
|
> {...}
|
|
> I put the system back together with the 6309
|
|
> CoCo and the darned thing crashed hard when tring to format a
|
|
> floppy. I pulled it and have had no problems since. As a matter
|
|
> of fact, and this sounds kinda strange, the display on my CM-8 is
|
|
> much brighter with this CoCo than with the 6309, so...
|
|
|
|
That sounds odd.. Could it be timing? I've not had any problems with
|
|
my 6309. My system got to where it would not format a floppy with the
|
|
MPI installed, never got it fixed. What 6309 system do you have? Nitro
|
|
or PBoost? I have PBoost, and found that they apparently have some kind
|
|
of bug in the piping system.. I was running an application piping the
|
|
input from an extremely long file, and the PBoost system was apparently
|
|
losing characters or something.. in the pipe. I used a standard 6809-
|
|
style boot (with the 6309 still in) and the pipe worked wonderfully.
|
|
|
|
> Well, I think I have answered some of the major queries here,
|
|
> I know there were more questions but I have gone past the alotted
|
|
> time that my short term memory will retain information.
|
|
|
|
Heheh.. It's hard to keep everything in mind when trying to compose from
|
|
memory.. TTYL...
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
|
|
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|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92783 11-JUN 12:03 General Information
|
|
RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92769)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Hi Dave,
|
|
First of all, if I want to boot from a custom floppy, I can
|
|
always put the MPI switch on slot 4 but, I can bypass the XT-
|
|
ROM with a key sequence when first powered up.
|
|
As for the 6309, I was running it in "6809" mode. I do have
|
|
PowerBoost, but I quit using it for one reason or another. I
|
|
do not remember why, but there was a reason. I have not gotten
|
|
around to getting NitrOS9. I basically wanted the 6309 simply
|
|
for the fact that it runs quite a bit cooler than the 6809.
|
|
Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
|
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|
-*-
|
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92834 19-JUN 20:48 General Information
|
|
RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92783)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40
|
|
|
|
> First of all, if I want to boot from a custom floppy, I can
|
|
> always put the MPI switch on slot 4 but, I can bypass the XT-
|
|
> ROM with a key sequence when first powered up.
|
|
|
|
That sounds neat. I never fooled with the B&B so I never did know
|
|
just how it _did_ work. From what you say here, it sounds pretty
|
|
well thought-out.
|
|
|
|
> As for the 6309, I was running it in "6809" mode. I do have
|
|
> PowerBoost, but I quit using it for one reason or another.
|
|
|
|
I have my coco in native mode. I have not really had any problems with
|
|
it, except I _did_ find that it somehow messes up on an exceedingly long
|
|
pipe sequence. I didn't find out about this till less than a year ago.
|
|
|
|
I had rewritten a database-type program - well, it was a lotto analysis
|
|
program, I plan on uploading it soon. Anyway, I had a pretty large database,
|
|
but didn't want to key everything back in. I wrote a little filter program
|
|
that would read a text output from the original and send the data into the
|
|
program via pipe, whereby it would do the same input you would have done
|
|
by manually doing it at the keyboard. I first did it on my OSK machine,
|
|
it worked perfectly. When I recompiled it on the coco, it would not work
|
|
for anything. It was obvious that some of the data was being lost somehow.
|
|
I studied for quite some time wondering if there was some kind of bug in
|
|
the coco library. I tried the standard library (had been using the Kreider
|
|
lib) but still no go. Finally, as a last resort, almost in frustration,
|
|
I booted up in 6809 mode and lo and behold, it worked !
|
|
|
|
> I basically wanted the 6309 simply
|
|
> for the fact that it runs quite a bit cooler than the 6809.
|
|
|
|
I'm not sure whether I can tell a tremendous difference between the two
|
|
CPU's or not. One thing is for certain. mdir seems to be twice as fast
|
|
in native mode.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92890 25-JUN 11:51 General Information
|
|
RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92834)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Hi Dave,
|
|
>...I booted up in 6809 mode and lo and behold, it worked !
|
|
|
|
Maybe this is something that the Hitachi needs to learn about,
|
|
if indeed it is a problem with the CPU. Or, then again, it may
|
|
be that there is something undocumented about the way the 6309
|
|
deals with long pipes, who knows.
|
|
As for the heat difference between the 6809 and the 6309, I
|
|
did see (feel) a definite difference between the 2.
|
|
I was just thinking about the pipe situation. I use HDbackup
|
|
for doing my HD backups. Wow! That statement took a lot of
|
|
thought! :) Anyway, it uses some very long pipe routines and
|
|
I had no problem with my backups and doing 1 restore. Everything
|
|
worked fine. Oh well!
|
|
Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
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|
92896 25-JUN 19:29 General Information
|
|
RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92890)
|
|
From: COCOKIWI To: 01GEN40 (NR)
|
|
|
|
first! The HD63C09E was supposed to be compatible to the
|
|
6809...
|
|
it was a CMOS version of the 6809......BUT! unknown to MOTOROLA
|
|
they found there was more room to play with after they did the
|
|
retrofit
|
|
SO! they ADDED the extra functions to the chip to make it more
|
|
powerfull
|
|
.when Motorola found out,they just OMITTED the Extra
|
|
INFORMATION
|
|
on the NEW functions from the DATA SHEET......
|
|
The problem was .MOTOROLA just wanted a clone..and not extra
|
|
goodies!
|
|
Anyway someone in JAPAN found out about the extra stuff and
|
|
started to
|
|
find out what they were! hence the differences......
|
|
when in NATIVE mode,many things are added,and SLOPPY
|
|
programming
|
|
causes a lot of the trouble! WHEN a bit is added to a
|
|
instruction and the
|
|
programmer could not be bothered to MASK the bit,It comes back
|
|
to get one
|
|
later when the BIT is used by the new chip......that BIT do
|
|
something else
|
|
that you don,t want it to do!!!! and THAT is the cause of most
|
|
problems!
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Dennis
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92897 25-JUN 20:10 General Information
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RE: Fest (Re: Msg 92890)
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From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40 (NR)
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Re: pipe not working well with PowerBoost
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> >...I booted up in 6809 mode and lo and behold, it worked !
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>
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> Maybe this is something that the Hitachi needs to learn about,
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> if indeed it is a problem with the CPU. Or, then again, it may
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> be that there is something undocumented about the way the 6309
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> deals with long pipes, who knows.
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I don't think so. It was the same cpu.. I just used a 6809-based
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boot disk. I suspect that there was some bug introduced in the
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patch. My guess is that they substituted an I$Write for an I$WritLn
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or vice versa. What appeared to be happening was that some of the
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data was being eaten up.
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> I was just thinking about the pipe situation. I use HDbackup
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> for doing my HD backups.
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> Anyway, it uses some very long pipe routines and
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> I had no problem with my backups and doing 1 restore. Everything
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> worked fine. Oh well!
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Are you running in 6309 native mode, though? This was when I experienced
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the problems.
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This could have been some fluke, but the same thing ran on my OSK machine
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and also ran perfectly when I went back to "standard" OS9 on the coco.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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End of Thread.
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92745 4-JUN 14:20 General Information
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RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92724)
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From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
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Well, I do not use an off-line reader. When I first started
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noticing this anomoly, the first thought in my mind was that it
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might have had something to do with the off-line reader, I did
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not want to say anything about it though for fear os stepping on
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some toes. I do not have one but have been thinking about getting
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one for quite some time now. But, since I do not have to pay any
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long distance charges for connection, I saw no need.
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I am on the 20/20 plan and in April I went over the 20 hours by
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spending a lot of time on the Internet. I have to admit, I am
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most definitely getting my moneys worth of on-line time. Try that
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on CompuServe or AOL! That and FREE connection to boot!!!
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92770 9-JUN 19:53 General Information
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RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92745)
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From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40
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> Well, I do not use an off-line reader. When I first started
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> noticing this anomoly, the first thought in my mind was that it
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> might have had something to do with the off-line reader, I did
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> not want to say anything about it though for fear os stepping on
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> some toes.
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> I do not have one but have been thinking about getting
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> one for quite some time now.
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What I like about offline readers is the fact that you can use your own
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editor and I feel more relaxed this way.
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Do you connect to any BBS's? If so, do they support QWK packets? This is
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a real saver.. You download whatever forums you want and they are compressed
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(the MS-DOS systems kind of insist on ZIP), and then you read them somewhat
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like you do with InfoXpress. I really love them... There are some available
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for both OSK and CoCo OS-9.
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> But, since I do not have to pay any
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> long distance charges for connection, I saw no need.
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Not having to pay long distance allows you to indulge <G>
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> I am on the 20/20 plan and in April I went over the 20 hours by
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> spending a lot of time on the Internet.
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Well, I am on the standard 4-hour plan.. Mostly I download the OS9 sig
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and do a continuous read of the cocolist and comp.os.os9
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> I have to admit, I am
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> most definitely getting my moneys worth of on-line time. Try that
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> on CompuServe or AOL! That and FREE connection to boot!!!
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I'm on CI$. About all I do is read the OS9 and the Coco forums. Their
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Internet access is not quite as versatile as it is here, to my understanding.
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All I've done there has been exchange e-mail with individuals.. I think
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they have something like a $.30 charge for each e-mail packet. I've
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never gotten any big bills from there, but I try to be careful with my time
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there, as I am here.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92784 11-JUN 12:32 General Information
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RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92770)
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From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
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Hi Dave,
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I have not logged onto BBS since about '92 or '93. I never
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could derive the pleasure out of them that I can when logging
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onto Delphi and with world-wide-access... There is just so
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much more to do and see here... I cannot go to the UK or
|
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Finland or Australia from a BBS.
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I just picked up The Internet Connection which is a package
|
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of software and 2 videos. Mosaic and Cello are 2 of the pro-
|
|
grams, which I really wanted badly. I cannot download them
|
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with my CoCo, well I could but would do my CoCo no good.
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There was also GENIE and CompuServe software and a program
|
|
called WinNET. For $15.00 I could not pass it up. Now all I
|
|
need is to have my 486 up and running. There is also a pro-
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gram out here called InterNav, I think. I want to check them
|
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all out, the navigators that is, I see which one I will feel
|
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the most comfortable with. I think WinNET is an Internet
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connection software, not sure yet. Nothing in the paperwork
|
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except that it is a GUI with first month free and 5 free hours
|
|
of usage time. Oh well!
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92788 11-JUN 19:38 General Information
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RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92770)
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From: VE3DAC To: DBREEDING
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Hi Dave;
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DBREEDING> ll I've done there has been exchange e-mail with individuals..
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DBREEDING> I think they have something like a $.30 charge for each
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DBREEDING> e-mail packet. I've never gotten any big bills from there,
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DBREEDING> but I try to be careful with my time
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I have been with Compuserve for many years but I really can't afford to be on
|
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there very often. With the recent price reductions, we now only pay 38 cents
|
|
a min. U.S. Convert that to Can $ by adding 35%. Delphi is pretty good at
|
|
5 cents a min. Can afford lots of time here.
|
|
Now that I have this super OS/2 Delphi only Navigator, its hard to be on
|
|
for a couple of hours a month. Log on, download messages from 4 forums
|
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(perhaps 200 or so) deliver any Email or forum replies and off in maybe 3
|
|
mins. Manually it would be 10 times that long. Maybe I' m slow!
|
|
Really nice to answer mail off line and almost get it right <g>.
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|
Can't think of any way to work OS9 into the thread. But our moderator
|
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doesn't care much.
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Cheerio
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Merv
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Merv Curley
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Written at Scarborough, On., 06/09/95 at 11:19pm
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92799 13-JUN 22:09 General Information
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RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92770)
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From: TEDJAEGER To: DBREEDING
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> Well, I am on the standard 4-hour plan.. Mostly I download the OS9 sig
|
|
> and do a continuous read of the cocolist and comp.os.os9
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|
David,
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|
Is it possible to have InfoXpress automate reading the cocolist
|
|
and comp.os.os9 during a Delphi session? If so, please share how!
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Bests
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|
---TedJaeger
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92800 13-JUN 23:01 General Information
|
|
RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92799)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: TEDJAEGER
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|
I *THINK* he means doing a buffer scroll like what we non IX users do in
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|
forum(rea unread NS I think). I can't remember hearing of IX having that
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|
capability(I owned it for a while but couldn't get it to work).
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>Chris<
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92831 19-JUN 06:20 General Information
|
|
RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92784)
|
|
From: EDELMAR To: 01GEN40
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I've been seeking a low cost Internet connection for some time. May have
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found one.
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|
The Company is NETCOM out of San Jose, California. They are offering personal
|
|
accounts for $19.95 a month. For this you get 40 hours of prime time usage
|
|
and unlimited non-prime time usage each month. They define prime time from
|
|
9 A.M. to Midnight local time. There is no activation fee. Service includes
|
|
WWW, IRC, GOPHER, FTP, USENET, TELNET and E-MAIL.
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|
|
|
Down-side - I don't know if a regular comm program will work. They provide
|
|
a program, 'NetCruiser' at no charge. But - it only runs under Windows 3.1.
|
|
I haven't contacted them yet to find out whether other software will work.
|
|
|
|
NETCOM can be contacted at 1-800-353-6600 or 1-408-983-5950. I don't know
|
|
if they have connections for our Canadian cousins.
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|
|
I'm not endorsing NETCOM nor their software. With time, I expect I'll learn
|
|
whether this is a good service or not.
|
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|
|
Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
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92835 19-JUN 20:48 General Information
|
|
RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92784)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40
|
|
|
|
|
|
> I have not logged onto BBS since about '92 or '93. I never
|
|
> could derive the pleasure out of them that I can when logging
|
|
> onto Delphi and with world-wide-access... There is just so
|
|
> much more to do and see here... I cannot go to the UK or
|
|
> Finland or Australia from a BBS.
|
|
|
|
Yes, that's true, but in my case, it costs quite a bit more <G>
|
|
|
|
I enjoy using the BBS's quite a bit. I enjoy cutting up with them
|
|
although we could meet face-to-face rather easily, but actually, I
|
|
have never knowingly met a single user on one of our local BBS's --
|
|
and we live in an extremely small community..
|
|
|
|
> I just picked up The Internet Connection which is a package
|
|
> of software and 2 videos. Mosaic and Cello are 2 of the pro-
|
|
> grams, which I really wanted badly. I cannot download them
|
|
> with my CoCo, well I could but would do my CoCo no good.
|
|
> There was also GENIE and CompuServe software and a program
|
|
> called WinNET. For $15.00 I could not pass it up. Now all I
|
|
> need is to have my 486 up and running. There is also a pro-
|
|
> gram out here called InterNav, I think.
|
|
|
|
I believe I've seen references to all these in time. I think InterNav
|
|
is a really popular package. We don't have a local internet connection
|
|
yet. One BBS downloads a few internet newsgroups and the users can
|
|
read them. I don't even know if you can reply to them or not.
|
|
|
|
With a lot of the newsgroups, I've found that there is a tremendous
|
|
amount of volume but many have very little useful content. With some
|
|
of the more active ones, it is somewhat tedious to try to ingest it
|
|
all, and you sometimes cannot tell what the message is about by just
|
|
scanning the Subjects. I read the cocolist and comp.os.os9 here. Of
|
|
course many of the names of the people are familiar and these are mostly
|
|
quite interesting, but some of the other topics are not as thrilling,
|
|
at lealst to me.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
|
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-*-
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92836 19-JUN 20:48 General Information
|
|
RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92788)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: VE3DAC
|
|
|
|
> Now that I have this super OS/2 Delphi only Navigator, its hard to be
|
|
> on for a couple of hours a month. Log on, download messages from 4
|
|
> forums (perhaps 200 or so) deliver any Email or forum replies and off in
|
|
> maybe 3 mins. Manually it would be 10 times that long. Maybe I' m slow!
|
|
|
|
I believe I'm slower <G>... If I try to type in a message manually I often
|
|
wind up with 10-20 minutes online.
|
|
|
|
> Really nice to answer mail off line and almost get it right <g>.
|
|
|
|
I'm hooked! I use InfoXpress for my composition. Have you ever used it?
|
|
(it's for OS-9) It is designed specifically for CIS and Delphi. I would
|
|
sorely dread trying to go back to online composition now.
|
|
|
|
> Can't think of any way to work OS9 into the thread.
|
|
|
|
Well, at least you did mention it <VBG>
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
|
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-*-
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92837 19-JUN 20:49 General Information
|
|
RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92799)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
> > Well, I am on the standard 4-hour plan.. Mostly I download the OS9 sig
|
|
> > and do a continuous read of the cocolist and comp.os.os9
|
|
>
|
|
> Is it possible to have InfoXpress automate reading the cocolist
|
|
> and comp.os.os9 during a Delphi session? If so, please share how!
|
|
|
|
There's no way that I know of. What I do with the cocolist and comp.os.os9
|
|
is to log on with STerm or other telecom program and read them nonstop
|
|
using buffer capture. It would be neat to be able to do so, though..
|
|
|
|
Hmm... I wonder.. reckon there would be a way to adapt the scripts???
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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-*-
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92838 19-JUN 20:49 General Information
|
|
RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92800)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: THETAURUS
|
|
|
|
> I *THINK* he means doing a buffer scroll like what we non IX users do in
|
|
> forum(rea unread NS I think). I can't remember hearing of IX having that
|
|
> capability(I owned it for a while but couldn't get it to work).
|
|
|
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Yeah, you got it right.. I just didn't make myself clear..
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|
It would be nice to be able to download them and reply offline.
|
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-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
|
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-*-
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92889 25-JUN 11:33 General Information
|
|
RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92831)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: EDELMAR
|
|
|
|
Hi Ed,
|
|
$19.95 for 40 hours sure beats Delphi, but for the time being, I
|
|
am quite satisfied with my access to the Internet through Delphi. It
|
|
seems to me that I would also experience long distance charges which
|
|
I do not with Delphi. I also would much prefer to use software that
|
|
does not DEMAND Windoze, until I get OS/2 that is.
|
|
At this point in time I am simply a casual user of the Internet. It
|
|
is simply a recreational and learning experience for me. Since
|
|
Star Trek is my main, for lack of a better term, passion, I just
|
|
read the Usenet Group messages on the subject. I also go into
|
|
Paramounts WWW home page. I do do an FTP from a site in Finland
|
|
about 6 months ago or so. (/\ that should have been 'did')
|
|
I have never said that I was a great typist, but for not having any
|
|
formal training, I think I do a pretty good job of it.
|
|
Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
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-= GEN =-
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-*-
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|
92891 25-JUN 12:07 General Information
|
|
RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92835)
|
|
From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Hello again,
|
|
I am basically a casual user of the Internet. Recreation and
|
|
learning... I am a very avid FAN of Star Trek. I go to the
|
|
Usenet and read the messages online. All of the active, I
|
|
cannot think of a good term to use here... uh humm, how about
|
|
senders, have taken identities based on Star Trek and have an
|
|
ongoing story line where the participants write bits and pieces
|
|
of a story. Reading them is like reading a Star Trek novel while
|
|
online. It is very fascinating how they can keep within the par-
|
|
ameters set down by Gene Roddenberry. They stay, definitivly,
|
|
in the Star Trek universe without swaying from Genes guidelines.
|
|
Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
|
|
|
|
LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
|
|
|
|
Peace and Long Life...
|
|
|
|
Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
|
|
|
|
-= GEN =-
|
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-*-
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92898 25-JUN 20:11 General Information
|
|
RE: Chopped-up Threads?!?! (Re: Msg 92891)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: 01GEN40 (NR)
|
|
|
|
|
|
> I am basically a casual user of the Internet. Recreation and
|
|
> learning...
|
|
|
|
I am an _extremely_ casusl user of the Internet so far. With my setup,
|
|
it just costs too much to get deeply involved.
|
|
|
|
We are supposed to get a local access to the internet sometime this
|
|
summer. As I hear it, our phone company may make the access available,
|
|
and also there is a BBS that is going to have some access. Right now,
|
|
the BBS is providing something like a Net access to a few newsgroups.
|
|
They make a long distance call each night and download the newsgroups.
|
|
I'm not sure if they are offering reply access yet or not.
|
|
|
|
Your Star Trek group would probably be quite intriguing for one who is
|
|
an avid fan. I've found that many of the newsgroups that discuss some
|
|
topic usually have a lot of exchange, but very little progress in
|
|
reaching a conclusion.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
|
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End of Thread.
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92751 4-JUN 22:29 General Information
|
|
OS-9 Latenight Schedule
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
|
|
OS-9 Late Night
|
|
Conference Schedual
|
|
For February AND March
|
|
Date Time(EST) Topic
|
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|
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|
|
June 5, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
|
|
|
|
June 12, 1995 10:00 PM Let the Games Begin!
|
|
|
|
What are your favorite OS-9 and Coco based games? There
|
|
have been many to come along over the years, not even
|
|
including what is available for CD-I! What new games would
|
|
be nice to see? Gaming enthusiasts will want to be onhand
|
|
for this :-)
|
|
|
|
June 19, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
|
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June 26, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
|
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July 3, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
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July 10, 1995 10:00 PM Beginners Night!
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How do I set up OS-9 correctly? What modules should I
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patch/leave alone? What apps should I buy, where can I get
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them? Why do I keep getting this (#'%("!(%&! error 216
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message!? Find out all this and more on Beginners' night!
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July 17, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
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July 24, 1995 10:00 PM OS-9 User's Group
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Discussion
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Mike Rowen, the Vice-President of the OS-9 Users' Group
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representing the Level's I and II users of OS-9, will be on
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hand. He is going to cover ideas for upcoming projects to
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maintain activity for those using OS-9 on a 6809 or
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compatible based machine(Coco 3,Dragon, etc..). If you are a
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Level I or II user you will want to attend and give Mike any
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feedback you may have, or drop him a line and let him know
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if you are available to to get involved in any future
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projects.
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July 31, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
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92785 11-JUN 12:37 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92751)
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From: 01GEN40 To: THETAURUS
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Hey Chris,
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This message said: ...Conference Schedual for Febraury AND
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March... But, the dates are for June and July. What gives?
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92802 14-JUN 22:08 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92785)
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From: THETAURUS To: 01GEN40
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>>... But, the dates are for June and July. What gives?<<
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My competence<G>. I just reposted a corrected version of that. I
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forgot to change the header(I keep the same header and just edit
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it for each schedule).
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Chris Perrault
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OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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92823 18-JUN 12:13 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92802)
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From: 01GEN40 To: THETAURUS
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Hi Chris,
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>> ... (I keep the same header and just edit it for each
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>> schedule).
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Ahh, that was exactly my thought on this. Just thought I
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would point it out. :)
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Thanks for the reply... See ya among the stars...
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LONG LIVE OS-9! <FOREVER> ** In whatever form it is in!
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Peace and Long Life...
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Siran of Vulcan (CMDR)
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-= GEN =-
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92829 19-JUN 00:51 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92751)
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From: JOELHEGBERG To: THETAURUS
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Dear Chris,
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> OS-9 Late Night Conference Schedule For February AND March:
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Just thought I'd drop you a note to thank you for your continued
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dedication to the Late Night conferences! It's really great to have
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these updates continually stimulating interest here. I know I started
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to take these updates for granted lately, and I remember how dull it was
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before you took on this task. Hope you know we all appreciate your
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efforts!
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-- Joel Mathew Hegberg
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92868 22-JUN 20:44 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92829)
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From: THETAURUS To: JOELHEGBERG
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>>Just thought I'd drop you a note to thank you for your
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continued dedication to the Late Night conferences! It's really
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great to have these updates continually stimulating interest
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here.<<
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Warning:I'm gonna get a bit long winded in this message.
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Thank you Joel, not only for the kind words but for your active
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participation in these conferences as well. As I've stated a
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hundred times, I could schedule a conference eight days a week,
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but if people don't show then I'm useless. Luckily it hasn't
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gotten THAT bad. We've had ups and downs, which you know you're
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going to have anyway, but it has been a pretty positive experience
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I think. Really, running the conferences are not very difficult at
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all. You basically write up the schedule(my format is 2 months per
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update, to make it even easier, and to allow time to promote and
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build up certain conferences), and show up on Monday night. Even
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then if I can't show on Monday, hey I leave a note in forum and/or
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to Mike Rowen to tell people just to go on without me<my actually
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being isn't even really necessary most of the time when you think
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about it).
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When I originally started this, I promised myself it wouldn't be
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a 'one-night-stand' deal. Others set up conferences in the past
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and failed to keep them going due to lack of interest, and I
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wanted to make sure that this would be a long term success, unlike
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those. 'Course Boisy's OS-9 Live! was an exception(wouldn't mind
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seeing that again). He just had a million other things to juggle
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and Late Night happened to be there to pick up the slack. While we
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will have off nights and mishaps, I try and keep things
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interesting(the hardest part of my job), so that it maintains long
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|
term success. You'll notice the next schedule to come out will be
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Augest/September. You'll never guess what Augest is? Our 1 year
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anniversary! I can't remember if any of the other 'classic'
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conferences ever lasted that long? I think we've all done a pretty
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good job. We have to keep it up! This conference is nothing but a
|
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small symbol of how we should all be active somehow in the OS-9
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community, and a token of of my appreciation to those of you
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software developers, Vendors, User Group leaders and magazine
|
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publishers who keep things running. I want to be able to give at
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least a little back and maybe use this conference and 'that UG
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project of mine'<Grin> as a springboard for future developements.
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We all have to get our hands dirty, no matter how much or how
|
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little we do. I think you can relate to that.
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Anyway, did I ramble everything yet? Oh, if you ever get the
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time, go download the transcript of the first conference. I was
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reading it just yesterday and it was such a trip, because it seems
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|
like yesterday that we were just starting out. There I was,
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wondering if the conference was gonna hold up for a month<grin>.
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Luckily persistance paid off, and now OS-9 Late Night is a
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permanent fixture on Delphi and the Online OS-9 world.
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Another thing, check my upcoming post(maybe the next one, maybe
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|
not), for a special update to the conference schedule. I've
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finally been able to confirm a conference I've been trying to get
|
|
for months. It will be of extra interest to a DAVID guy like you
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Joel! :-) Now if I can just get Delphi to let me put it on their
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signon banner!<G>
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>>Hope you know we all appreciate your efforts!<<
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And I certainly appreciate everyone's support in keeping this
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machine going. C'mon everyone, one year is nothing. The OS-9
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community certainly has changed over the last couple years and a
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lot of 'leadership' has jumped ship in some form or another. Let's
|
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get behind the new leaders such as the new OS-9 UG president and
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VP as well as those who are marketing new products for OS-9. If we
|
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stick to it and stay supportive in many ways, we can carve our own
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little niche in the computer world that is rightfully ours. I plan
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on bringing 'Late Night' along for the long ride! Ok that's it,
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sermons over(Brother Jeremy, you're really much better cut out for
|
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this than me :-) ). I could probably think up more to say
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but....(running for cover)
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See Ya
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Chris Perrault
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OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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92877 23-JUN 07:14 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92868)
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From: MROWEN01 To: THETAURUS
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Chris,
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You certainly have no shortage of messages this morning! I'm excited
|
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about the D.A.V.I.D. conference. I hope you are serious about posting this
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on the Delphi banner! Good work setting it up. I want to second Joel's thank
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you to you. I can't believe a year has nearly passed since Late Night started.
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I hope that the IRC conference will be as succsessful. Consistency is probably
|
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the most important aspect of these conferences. Thanks for your dedication to
|
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Late Night and also to your newest project, the database. Keep up the great
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work!
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|
Mike Rowen
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VP OS-9/6809
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OS-9 Users group
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mrowen01@delphi.com
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92881 24-JUN 01:26 General Information
|
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92868)
|
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From: JOELHEGBERG To: THETAURUS
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|
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Chris,
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> You'll never guess what Augest is? Our 1 year anniversary!
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Wow! That's is definitely something special!
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> least a little back and maybe use this conference and 'that UG
|
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> project of mine'<Grin> as a springboard for future developements.
|
|
> We all have to get our hands dirty, no matter how much or how
|
|
> little we do. I think you can relate to that.
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Yes, most definitely. ;)
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> Another thing, check my upcoming post(maybe the next one, maybe
|
|
> not), for a special update to the conference schedule. I've
|
|
> finally been able to confirm a conference I've been trying to get
|
|
> for months. It will be of extra interest to a DAVID guy like you
|
|
> Joel! :-) Now if I can just get Delphi to let me put it on their
|
|
> signon banner!<G>
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|
Yes, Dave Kimble is an excellent pick for the DAVID chat. He's an
|
|
exceedingly nice guy and terrific at explaining things. I'm looking
|
|
forward to seeing how everyone attending enjoys the conference.
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-- Joel Mathew Hegberg
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92882 24-JUN 01:26 General Information
|
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92877)
|
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From: JOELHEGBERG To: MROWEN01
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Chris and Mike,
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> You certainly have no shortage of messages this morning! I'm excited
|
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> about the D.A.V.I.D. conference. I hope you are serious about posting
|
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> this on the Delphi banner! Good work setting it up.
|
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Yes, great work setting it up. This should be billed heavily to make
|
|
sure everyone who may want to attend knows about it far enough in
|
|
advance. Plaster the coco and OS-9 listservers with messages and
|
|
updates, along with forum and anywhere else you can find. This is
|
|
finally a chance for the "underground" community to find out what DAVID
|
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is all about.
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Best wishes,
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Joel Mathew Hegberg
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92888 25-JUN 11:22 General Information
|
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92868)
|
|
From: JOHNBAER To: THETAURUS
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|
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Chris,
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|
It's been a year ? <g> Time is flying to fast for me :).
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|
I do believe that this DAVID conference will be a full house.
|
|
I know I'll be there.. at least to hear what is going on. A big Thank
|
|
You to you and anyone else that got this pulled off.
|
|
|
|
And I just can't say thank you enough for your effort in doing these
|
|
conferences. Yea, I know, if nobody showed, there wouldn't be a conference.
|
|
True.. But, if we weren't reminded, I think we would forget fast :)
|
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|
John -
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92904 26-JUN 19:55 General Information
|
|
RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92877)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: MROWEN01
|
|
|
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>>I'm excited about the D.A.V.I.D conference.<<
|
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|
|
Your not the only one :-) I'm just hoping that everything pans
|
|
out fine. It's so good so far!
|
|
|
|
>>I hope you are serious about posting this on the Delphi
|
|
banner!<<
|
|
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|
Well, yeah I'm gonna try. That doesn't mean I'm real confident
|
|
that Delphi will follow my enthusiasm but, hey what the heck. I
|
|
have to see about their availability of temp accounts(or lack
|
|
thereof).
|
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|
|
>>Good work setting it up.<<
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|
And don't think for a minute that you are off the hook for your
|
|
conference on the previous week<G>. The OS-9 Users' Group Level II
|
|
conference is still going to get a big push, rest assured ;-)
|
|
|
|
>>Consistency is probably the most important aspect of these
|
|
conferences.<<
|
|
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|
It really is. Since you have been attending since we began about
|
|
a year ago, I'm glad to see your the one to tackle the IRC
|
|
conference project. You have seen firsthand all the ups and downs
|
|
Late Night has had as far as attendance is concerned. Even the
|
|
topics began drying up there for a little while. Hopefully this
|
|
will leave an impression on you later on when you get the
|
|
conference(s) up and running, so you will know that yes, you WILL
|
|
have slow nights and stretches of them, with all the outside
|
|
factors you will have to face. Just let those negative stretches
|
|
come and go and things will always bounce back up, assuming the
|
|
people attending put enough effort in to keep things interesting.
|
|
It's going to be far from perfect, but from my experience, I think
|
|
riding out the downtimes has helped establish Late Night as a
|
|
reliable long term conference, rather than a flash in the pan.
|
|
|
|
>>Keep up the great work!<<
|
|
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|
And don't think I'm going to let you take all my Late Night
|
|
attendees to IRC with you. If I start drying up, then I'm going to
|
|
sneak over their and rename your group name to "GOOD NEWS". That
|
|
oughta scare them back here<Grin>.
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|
Thanks Mike, and good luck!
|
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|
|
Chris Perrault
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OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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92905 26-JUN 19:55 General Information
|
|
RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92881)
|
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From: THETAURUS To: JOELHEGBERG
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|
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>>Wow! That's is definately something special!<<
|
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|
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I'll have to try and come up with something special for an
|
|
anniversary conference.
|
|
|
|
>>Yes, Dave Kimble is an excellent pick for the DAVID chat. He's
|
|
an exceedingly nice guy and terrific at explaining things. I'm
|
|
looking forward to seeing how everyone attending enjoys the
|
|
conference.<<
|
|
|
|
This is going to be interesting to see which way this turns out,
|
|
because from all I can remember, this is most likely the first
|
|
such topic we've had which dealt with OS-9 in a more mainstream
|
|
setting. Most of the past conferences have been geared towards
|
|
vendors and new product releases,programming and general OS-9
|
|
usage, or community related events(fests). This is something I
|
|
still want to do(if any interested vendors or individuals will get
|
|
in touch with me), but since OS-9 exposure is growing, I thought
|
|
I'd make some changes in my 'Late Night Programming'(ok, everybody
|
|
slap your knees for that one<Grin>), to reflect that and to start
|
|
lending more attention to where it stands in the real world. I
|
|
noticed that the past Late Night topics almost all were popular
|
|
with the current 'inner circle' users such as those on
|
|
Delphi,Fido, and the Cocolist, and had strong Coco ties. Not that
|
|
there's anything wrong with that(and I will continue pursueing
|
|
topics in that area in the future), but that's ALL we were doing
|
|
and not really lending much attention to what is outside of this
|
|
'circle' such as D.A.V.I.D.
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I do plan on making a few slight changes now in the way Late
|
|
Night is done. For example, when possible I want to try and land
|
|
one BIG conference at the end of each scheduling period. This
|
|
makes for a neat format, and allows for me a month and a half or
|
|
more to build the big one up while at the same time pushing the
|
|
smaller ones as we go. Some ideas I've had for these BIG
|
|
conferences would be more in line with such things as D.A.V.I.D,
|
|
in hopes that this is the start of something good. CD-I related
|
|
topics(developement, marketing strategies, and discussions with
|
|
people in that field), Rave/multimedia related usage and
|
|
programming, and maybe even try to get some of the famous folks
|
|
from OS-9's past and present online, is where I'd like to go.
|
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|
|
In what is my own personal curiosity for what the smaller Coco
|
|
Clubs and OS-9 user groups are doing across the country, I'd like
|
|
to get a representative from 1 or 2 on each schedule to give them
|
|
an opportunity to let us in on what their clubs are up to. I know
|
|
the San Diego OS-9 users group has a cool sounding project going
|
|
on , and are pushing OS-9 locally from what I've read on the net.
|
|
These are people I'd like to get online in the future, as well as
|
|
Daltrug,Toronto OS-9 Users' Group,Glennside,Chicago Area OS-9
|
|
Users Group,ACS, etc, you name 'em. Late Night is a good medium
|
|
for such small clubs who could use the exposure. Add that to the
|
|
fact that I am toying with the idea of incorporating the
|
|
conferences into an MOTD series in the future, and you could have
|
|
even MORE exposure. I believe in stretching the buck, so I am
|
|
interested in finding a way for all these activities to benefit
|
|
from eachother in different ways. Late Night and the MOTD could be
|
|
a heck of a tool in this regard.
|
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|
See Ya
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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92906 26-JUN 19:55 General Information
|
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92888)
|
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From: THETAURUS To: JOHNBAER
|
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|
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>>It's been a year ? <G> <<
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|
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I said the same thing! ;-) It's so funny how I can remember just
|
|
hoping that the conf would last more than a couple months no
|
|
matter how rough things got, yet a whole year has just about
|
|
passed us just like that. That's not a sign of old age is
|
|
it?<crossing fingers><G>
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92912 26-JUN 20:02 General Information
|
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RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92882)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: JOELHEGBERG
|
|
|
|
>>This should be billed heavily to make sure everyone who may
|
|
want to attend knows about it far enough in advance.<<
|
|
|
|
This is something I am working on now. I'm going to write to
|
|
service on the possibility of getting this on either the sign on
|
|
or even signoff banner. It may be a hard sell, but there are a lot
|
|
of points in favor of D.A.V.I.D getting the Delphi wide
|
|
recognition. With the service being on the whole Multimedia/techno
|
|
trip right now, it is a logical possibility<just look at the
|
|
exposure stuff like Fox's _Sliders_ and other such programming
|
|
gets in the banner. Late Night will have a much longer run than
|
|
Sliders' I'm happy to say :-) ). Unfortunately I'm not familiar
|
|
with how they handle such requests. Also I do want to check out
|
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the Multimedia related forums including Custom Forums and see if
|
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the SIG managers mind if I post an announcement there.
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|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
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Sourcebook Coordinator
|
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92921 27-JUN 23:14 General Information
|
|
RE: OS-9 Latenight Schedule (Re: Msg 92912)
|
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From: JOELHEGBERG To: THETAURUS
|
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|
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Chris,
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|
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> This is something I am working on now. I'm going to write to
|
|
> service on the possibility of getting this on either the sign on
|
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> or even signoff banner....
|
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> Also I do want to check out
|
|
> the Multimedia related forums including Custom Forums and see if
|
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> the SIG managers mind if I post an announcement there.
|
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|
|
Excellent ideas. I would think Delphi would be willing to have a
|
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signon/signoff banner if they know how big this is... not just to us,
|
|
but this conference can have a wide appeal. Whether they'll figure out
|
|
how important it is... that's another matter.
|
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-- Joel.
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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92754 5-JUN 20:30 OSK Applications
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RIBBS_MM1
|
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From: VAXELF To: ALL
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|
|
For those who got a copy of the RIBBS Beta disk for the MM/1, let me
|
|
know your username here. the ones I have on my list are:
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BRUCE GERST
|
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BRIAN KITT
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DAVID LADD
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JOHN R. STRONG
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JAMES JONES
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MALCOM CLEVELAND
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JOHN EVANS
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I can supply the current packed modules via email. Also the first 24hr
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RIBBS_MM1 OSK FIDO BBS is now up. It is the OCEAN BEACH BBS. Telephone
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number is 619-224-4878.
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John A. Donaldson
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RIBBS_MM1 Team Leader
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92764 8-JUN 01:14 OSK Applications
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RE: RIBBS_MM1 (Re: Msg 92754)
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From: NIMITZ To: VAXELF
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Please add me to that list. I now have a private node list local to me.
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David
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92765 8-JUN 20:22 OSK Applications
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RE: RIBBS_MM1 (Re: Msg 92764)
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From: VAXELF To: NIMITZ
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I added you to the list. I also forgot to add JOEL HEGBERG.
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Did you see the posting that Warren made about RIBBS_MM1?? We decided to
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start calling the port RIBBS_MM1, since at present, it will ONLY run on
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a system that is running KWINDOW. That means for now the MM/1 or MM/1A.
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Saw your add in 268m about the MM/1B 306 machine.
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John D.
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92774 10-JUN 13:37 OSK Applications
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RE: RIBBS_MM1 (Re: Msg 92765)
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From: NIMITZ To: VAXELF
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VGA port. Hope he gets it
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done soon!
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92828 19-JUN 00:46 OSK Applications
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RE: RIBBS_MM1 (Re: Msg 92765)
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From: JOELHEGBERG To: VAXELF
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John,
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> I added you to the list. I also forgot to add JOEL HEGBERG.
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Yep, I almost spoke up. ;) The program looks great, and I've called
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Warren's system several times since he's moved to the MM1 version.
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Great work!!
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-- Joel Mathew Hegberg.
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92830 19-JUN 01:09 OSK Applications
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RE: RIBBS_MM1 (Re: Msg 92828)
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From: NIMITZ To: JOELHEGBERG
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By the way Joel, I now have fax modem support on a DOS machine, and my MM/1
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so, if you like, I could test any Fax Modem support you come up with....
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92844 19-JUN 23:10 OSK Applications
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RE: RIBBS_MM1 (Re: Msg 92830)
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From: JOELHEGBERG To: NIMITZ
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> By the way Joel, I now have fax modem support on a DOS machine, and my
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> MM/1 so, if you like, I could test any Fax Modem support you come up
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> with....
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Great! Now I just have to buy one... <g> And I predict that's in my
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future soon. It's amazing what you can do when you get a real job. ;)
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-- Joel.
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92845 20-JUN 01:39 OSK Applications
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RE: RIBBS_MM1 (Re: Msg 92844)
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From: NIMITZ To: JOELHEGBERG
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yeah, I hear you. Maybe you'll want to buy some stock!
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:)
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End of Thread.
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92755 6-JUN 00:06 General Information
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RE: IDE Hard drive adapter? (Re: Msg 92614)
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From: RYROWE To: DISTO
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I would be interested in your idea. I'm listening......
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----Ryan
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92761 7-JUN 23:27 General Information
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The World of 68 Micros(new issue)
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From: THETAURUS To: ALL
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Well I just recently, say a couple days ago, recieved the latest
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issue of 'The World of 68 Micros'. I was just wondering if
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everyone else recieved theirs' and how'd ya like it(yes, I'm
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trying to kick up some conversation<G>)? I thought it was good as
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usual and it's nice to see Frank has been able to stay very
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consistent, being as busy as he must be. All I have to say is, I'm
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probably Chris Dekker's biggest fan right about now, after
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following his series on Basic programming. If this article alone
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was the only one in the mag I think I'd keep renewing anyway :-)
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Frank, don't let this one get away! It's nice to see more Basic09
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than just what's in the manual and tour guide.
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Btw did anyone see the add for _Mastering OS-9_? I guess it's
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ready and out now. If you've already bought it(I do plan on making
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a big, MOTHER_OF_ALL_PURCHASES from Farna in the somewhat near
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future, with this book included), let us know how it is. Maybe
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someone can write up a review? Anyway, once again, good job
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Frank, and keep it up :-)
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And since I'm on the subject of magazines and articles...There
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are quite a few newsletters and mags out there(ok, mostly
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newsletters), that will be happy to print your articles. We have
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not only 'The World of 68 Micros', but also, the 'MOTD',Glennside
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Color Computer Clubs newsletter, 'Coco 1-2-3', as well as MI&CC
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club diskletter 'The Upgrade'. There are others out there also,
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catering to their specific Coco Club. I imagine the San Diego
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Users' Group and Daltrug have respective newsletters. We should
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all help these publishers out and put that knowledge to use at the
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same time. There is plenty to write about as it relates to OS-9
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and the Coco. New Products, system management,programming, current
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events and other things that we take for granted online, could be
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put in article form for others offline to appreciate.
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See Ya
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Chris Perrault
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OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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92775 10-JUN 14:10 General Information
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RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92761)
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From: TEDJAEGER To: THETAURUS
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> Well I just recently, say a couple days ago, recieved the latest
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> issue of 'The World of 68 Micros'. I was just wondering if
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> everyone else recieved theirs' and how'd ya like it(yes, I'm
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> trying to kick up some conversation<G>)? I thought it was good as
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Just chiming in. Yes, I got my 68 Micros too and thought it was a very
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good issue. And like you, I enjoy seeing the BASIC09 code and
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explanations of system calls. Stuff to grow on...
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Lately I've been messing with CDL BASIC. A lot of promise there if one
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can figure out how to do the advanced stuff. I believe I have system
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calls from within CDL mastered and have also successfully created
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a signal handler. However, when I combine the signal handler with a
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system call to read the mouse very strange things happen! Seems like
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with the signal handler installed, the system call to read the mouse
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no longer puts the mouse values in the variable pointed to by a0.
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Trial and error learning is sure a pain, but then two weeks ago I
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couldn't fidure out how to do a system call.
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Bests
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---TedJaeger
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92790 12-JUN 00:19 General Information
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RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92761)
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From: DSRTFOX To: THETAURUS
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The new version of "Start OS-9" was retitled "Mastering OS-9" as this is
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more consistent with the content. All the info files have been revised and
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updated, and some have been added from Rick Ulland (making boot disks the
|
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easy way!). The tutorials were all rewritten to be easier to follow with
|
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fewer, but more logical, steps. And best of all, there is a complete INDEX
|
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and easy to find references in the sidebars of every page.
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Francis (Frank) Swygert
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Publisher, "the world of 68' micros" Magazine
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`[1;37;44mRainbow V 1.11 for Delphi - Registered
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92792 12-JUN 01:07 General Information
|
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RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92790)
|
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From: NIMITZ To: DSRTFOX
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Now all we need to do is get it passed through a System IV /System V and an
|
|
MM/1 user and get the OSK version out!
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92796 12-JUN 23:14 General Information
|
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RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92775)
|
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From: THETAURUS To: TEDJAEGER
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>>And like you, I enjoy seeing the BASIC09 code and explanations
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of system calls. Stuff to grow on...<<
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I'm the type who can really never get quite enough information.
|
|
I wish they had a whole new book on Basic09 programming(I've got
|
|
Hiiiiiigh Hopes...), since the B09 section of the OS-9 Manual
|
|
still leaves some to be desired. It's not that they didn't put a
|
|
lot in there are just so many techniques that can be used that
|
|
could fill a whole book. Looking over other people's source
|
|
listings in 268m is helpfull, since I like to see how the more
|
|
experienced people handle such things as syscalls and graphics
|
|
programming, array structuring, and all that neat stuff. It's fun
|
|
to read about and learn but once your actually programming and
|
|
getting stumped for too long a time, it can be painfull<G>. OS-9
|
|
Underground also used to have some real neat B09 listings before
|
|
they started mailing out the new style transparent issues<G>.
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|
|
|
Btw, didn't you have an article in 268m recently, or as I
|
|
believe, some of your code was published? I believe this is the
|
|
first one I saw that demonstrated using escape codes to achieve
|
|
gfx2 type graphics calls. For some reason(inexperience?), while it
|
|
is perfectly logical(gfx2 calls are basically escape code
|
|
routines), it never did dawn on me that this could be done. Thanks
|
|
for shedding some light ;-)
|
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|
|
>>Lately I've been messing with CDL BASIC.<<
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|
|
It is nice to finally see a REAL BASIC compilor for OS-9! I take
|
|
it you like it so far? While I do intend to learn C(am starting a
|
|
programming AD course in college), I think CDL Basic would most
|
|
likely be one of my first software buys when I go OSK. I can't see
|
|
me getting a system without it. Is there any reason to use Basic09
|
|
do you think with CDL. Are there still any advantages to it?
|
|
|
|
I'm glad you are getting the hang of it. We could sure use more
|
|
OSK developers, and it will be cool to see CDL Basic attract some
|
|
of them(you already have a product or three on the market don't
|
|
you?). If you get a chance, let us know when you work out the
|
|
mouse problem. I've been getting the hang of Syscall a little
|
|
better but still am a bit illiterate on it<G>.
|
|
|
|
See Ya
|
|
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
|
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92804 14-JUN 22:30 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92796)
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: THETAURUS
|
|
|
|
|
|
> Btw, didn't you have an article in 268m recently, or as I
|
|
> believe, some of your code was published? I believe this is the
|
|
> first one I saw that demonstrated using escape codes to achieve
|
|
> gfx2 type graphics calls. For some reason(inexperience?), while it
|
|
|
|
Yes, that was me. Joel published code of mine in perhaps four issues.
|
|
Last summer I was spending quite a bit of time working in Microware
|
|
BASIC and sharing my discoveries with him, who in turn shared them
|
|
through his column in 68K Micros. Since GFX for OSK was unavailable
|
|
at the time, anything I wrote used escape sequences. They were much
|
|
faster when used with PUT than either calling BGFX or a shell so I
|
|
recommend that approach to graphics programming in BASIC highly.
|
|
|
|
> It is nice to finally see a REAL BASIC compilor for OS-9! I take
|
|
> it you like it so far? While I do intend to learn C(am starting a
|
|
> programming AD course in college), I think CDL Basic would most
|
|
> likely be one of my first software buys when I go OSK. I can't see
|
|
> me getting a system without it. Is there any reason to use Basic09
|
|
> do you think with CDL. Are there still any advantages to it?
|
|
|
|
Its still early for me to make a call on this. I've figured out how to
|
|
do system calls and KWindows graphics with it. One needs system calls
|
|
to do essential programming chores like read the mouse and sleep. I've
|
|
also got a signal trap working in CDL BASIC but when I combine the signal
|
|
trap with attempts to read the mouse it fails. One needs a working signal
|
|
handler with mouse and keyboard reading to build a good main loop for a
|
|
program. If I get passed this hurdle, then I'd say CDL BASIC is the way
|
|
to go. I think one thing you would like is that CDL BASIC has some C-like
|
|
characteristics so its a good intermediate step on the learning curve
|
|
between BASIC09 and C.
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|
|
|
> I'm glad you are getting the hang of it. We could sure use more
|
|
> OSK developers, and it will be cool to see CDL Basic attract some
|
|
> of them(you already have a product or three on the market don't
|
|
> you?). If you get a chance, let us know when you work out the
|
|
|
|
My only commercial venture in the CoCo days was DeskTamer which is
|
|
currently ported to the MM1 under MICROWARE BASIC. I'm now
|
|
playing with CDL BASIC in the hopes of moving DeskTamer to it so I
|
|
can release a version that would be quicker and not need support code
|
|
(i.e., RUNB)
|
|
|
|
Bests
|
|
---TedJaeger
|
|
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|
-*-
|
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|
|
92805 14-JUN 22:30 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92792)
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: NIMITZ
|
|
|
|
> Now all we need to do is get it passed through a System IV /System V and
|
|
> an MM/1 user and get the OSK version out!
|
|
|
|
I'll second that! Work on that Frank!
|
|
|
|
Bests
|
|
---TedJaeger
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
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|
|
92806 14-JUN 22:46 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92792)
|
|
From: DSRTFOX To: NIMITZ
|
|
|
|
On 12-JUN 01:07 NIMITZ said to DSRTFOX
|
|
> Now all we need to do is get it passed through a System IV /System V
|
|
>and an MM/1 user and get the OSK version out!
|
|
|
|
Actually, that is being worked on at this minute!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Francis (Frank) Swygert
|
|
Publisher, "the world of 68' micros" Magazine
|
|
|
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`[1;31;47mRainbow V 1.11 for Delphi - Registered
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|
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|
-*-
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|
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92810 15-JUN 08:00 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92796)
|
|
From: JEJONES To: THETAURUS
|
|
|
|
> I'm the type who can really never get quite enough information.
|
|
> I wish they had a whole new book on Basic09 programming(I've got
|
|
> Hiiiiiigh Hopes...), since the B09 section of the OS-9 Manual
|
|
> still leaves some to be desired....
|
|
|
|
It's not new, but do you have a copy of Dale Puckett's *BASIC09
|
|
Tour Guide*?
|
|
|
|
Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
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-*-
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|
|
92825 19-JUN 00:45 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92804)
|
|
From: JOELHEGBERG To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
Ted,
|
|
|
|
> Yes, that was me. Joel published code of mine in perhaps four issues.
|
|
|
|
Thanks again for those pieces of code! :)
|
|
|
|
> My only commercial venture in the CoCo days was DeskTamer which is
|
|
> currently ported to the MM1 under MICROWARE BASIC. I'm now
|
|
> playing with CDL BASIC in the hopes of moving DeskTamer to it so I
|
|
> can release a version that would be quicker and not need support code
|
|
> (i.e., RUNB)
|
|
|
|
Desktamer is quite a nice looking program, with lots of features. I
|
|
think I saw an early C version at WCP's booth at the fest. Either way
|
|
(C or CDL BASIC) it would be great to get rid of the RUNB support code
|
|
and get a little speedup as well.
|
|
|
|
-- Joel Mathew Hegberg
|
|
|
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|
-*-
|
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|
|
92826 19-JUN 00:46 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92806)
|
|
From: JOELHEGBERG To: DSRTFOX
|
|
|
|
> On 12-JUN 01:07 NIMITZ said to DSRTFOX
|
|
> > Now all we need to do is get it passed through a System IV /System V
|
|
> >and an MM/1 user and get the OSK version out!
|
|
>
|
|
> Actually, that is being worked on at this minute!!
|
|
|
|
Yes, I've seen parts of the OSK version and it looks great... It's
|
|
certainly a product that will be in demand for OSK users.
|
|
|
|
-- Joel Mathew Hegberg
|
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-*-
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|
92848 20-JUN 22:24 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92825)
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: JOELHEGBERG
|
|
|
|
> > Yes, that was me. Joel published code of mine in perhaps four issues.
|
|
>
|
|
> Thanks again for those pieces of code! :)
|
|
|
|
Hi Joel!
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|
|
|
Well, I may have some CDL BASIC code for ya in the not too distant
|
|
future! Are you going to continue with your column in 68K Micros?
|
|
Hope you will have the time for such writing!
|
|
|
|
|
|
> Desktamer is quite a nice looking program, with lots of features. I
|
|
> think I saw an early C version at WCP's booth at the fest. Either way
|
|
> (C or CDL BASIC) it would be great to get rid of the RUNB support code
|
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> and get a little speedup as well.
|
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>
|
|
Thanks! I'm working on exactly that though my current impression is that
|
|
the change from Microware BASIC to CDL is greater than the change from
|
|
BASIC09 to Microware's BASIC for 68K. (Or maybe its just that learning
|
|
gets harder as I get older!)
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Bests
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---TedJaeger
|
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-*-
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92855 21-JUN 20:55 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92848)
|
|
From: NIMITZ To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
Ted, perhaps you would consider a few pieces for MOTD?? We're needing some
|
|
nice light technical to intermediate technical pieces.
|
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|
|
David M. Graham
|
|
Executive Vice-President
|
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OS-9 UG
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92863 22-JUN 20:43 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92804)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
Desktamer is the one currently marketed by Blackhawk right? I
|
|
have heard good things about that. Haven't seen it only because
|
|
I'm on a Coco and not an MM/1.
|
|
|
|
See Ya
|
|
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
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|
92864 22-JUN 20:43 General Information
|
|
RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92810)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: JEJONES
|
|
|
|
>>It's not new, but do you have a copy of Dale Puckett's
|
|
*BASIC09 Tour Guide*?<<
|
|
|
|
Yeah I have the tour guide, which is good. I also have the
|
|
Rainbow guide to Level II which actually has even more interesting
|
|
Basic09 code than the tour guide(it shows how to write the bare
|
|
bones of an editor!). Would be nice if there was something to dig
|
|
a little deeper. Luckily we do have the articles currently being
|
|
written by those with the experience.
|
|
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
|
|
|
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92883 24-JUN 14:00 General Information
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RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92855)
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From: TEDJAEGER To: NIMITZ
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> Ted, perhaps you would consider a few pieces for MOTD?? We're needing
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> some nice light technical to intermediate technical pieces.
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>
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David,
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I'm always eager to share stuff that I learn. I'd give it a shot if
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I could write during the summer. Once school gets started its harder
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for me. Maybe useful functions for CDL BASIC or doing system calls in
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CDL BASIC would be a good topic?
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Bests
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---TedJaeger
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92884 24-JUN 14:00 General Information
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RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92863)
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From: TEDJAEGER To: THETAURUS
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> Desktamer is the one currently marketed by Blackhawk right? I
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> have heard good things about that. Haven't seen it only because
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> I'm on a Coco and not an MM/1.
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>
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Actually, there is a CoCo version that was sold by MVSystems before
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they got out of the CoCo business. The MM1 (commercial) version is
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not yet complete, though there is a BASIC 68K version for KWindows
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and the MM1.
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Bests
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---TedJaeger
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92910 26-JUN 19:56 General Information
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RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92883)
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From: THETAURUS To: TEDJAEGER
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>>Maybe usefull functions for CDL BASIC or doing system calls in
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CDL BASIC would be a good topic?<<
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If it's basic related, you know I'll sure appreciate it Ted :-)
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>Chris<
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92913 26-JUN 20:35 General Information
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RE: The World of 68 Micros(new issue) (Re: Msg 92883)
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From: NIMITZ To: TEDJAEGER
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Ted, that would be great. Thanks so much!!
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David
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End of Thread.
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92762 7-JUN 23:27 General Information
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Conference reminder
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From: THETAURUS To: ALL
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This is a reminder that this Monday June 12, at 10:00 PM eastern
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time, we will be having our weekly 'OS-9 Late Night' conference.
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The topic this week will be 'Let the Games Begin'. What are your
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favorite Coco and OS-9 Games? Between what is available for
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DECB,Level II, OSK, and CD-I, there are a lot out there! This also
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makes a great forum thread(a similar one was started on the list).
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I will also most likely post a reminder on Sunday, but if you
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need to read the whole schedule it should be in the conference
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banner area soon. Also, Mike Rowen will be posting it on the
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internet. If you have a conference you want to host let me know,
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and try me if there are any you want to see. No guarrentees but
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I'll see what I can do. I am taking names for the Augest/September
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schedule if you are interested in hosting your own topic(vendors,
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user group/club members,sysops,developers etc..).
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See Ya
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Chris Perrault
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OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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92763 7-JUN 23:27 Users Group
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Sourcebook User Form
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From: THETAURUS To: ALL
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At the end of this post will be the user entry form for the OS-9
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Users' Group sourcebook. Initial response was great, but returns
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have dropped off since. Please make it a point to fill it out and
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return it to me(Thetaurus) so I can add your name to the database.
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It takes not more than a couple minutes and couldn't be any
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easier. You just need to fill it out and return it(email even :-)
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), so please return this form with your name so we can keep the
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response coming! Btw, in the upcoming MOTD we will have the BBS
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entry form for sysops or users for that matter, to send in for
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their bulletin board systems. I'll post the form here soon after.
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The Industrial user form might also be in the next issue as well.
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If not the next one, then the one after, tho it really doesn't
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affect many of us here who are really personal users. If you know
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any industrial users, please do make sure they see it when it
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comes out.
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________Form Coming...________
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OS-9 Sourcebook Information Form
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--------------------------------
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Name:
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Business:
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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Address:
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City: State: ZIP:
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---------------- --------------- --------------------
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Country: Telephone:( ) -
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EMail Address:
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-----------------------------------------------------
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Signature: Date: 07 /06 /1995
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------------------------------------ DD MM YY
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Would you like information on
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joining the OS-9 Users Group? o Already a Member! o Yes o No
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Can this information be passed to OS-9 vendors? o Yes o No
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Are you available to act as a volunteer for OS-9 o Yes o No
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projects from time to time? This isn't a commitment.
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Please indicate your area(s) of interest:
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o OS-9/6809 o OS-9/68000 o OS-9000
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o Programming o Hardware Other ________________________
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You use OS-9 primarily for what purpose:
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o personal use o industrial system o both
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Please describe briefly your OS-9 computer system(s):
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Please describe briefly your computer and OS-9 experience:
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Please describe your OS-9 interests (things you would like to see the
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UG do, or see in the MOTD), or list any other questions or comments:
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92766 8-JUN 23:46 General Information
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Trip Troubles
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From: MODEL299 To: DSRTFOX
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Sorry to hear about the troubles you had after the show. For our group the
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problems were on the way to the show. I have a camper and we all load our
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stuff in there. On the day I started out I had to make 3 stops to pick up
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the rest of the gang. About 2 miles down the road after the first stop we
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heard a loud BANG from the rear of the camper. We stopped and did not see
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anything so we started out again. At the next guy's house we checked again
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and saw a piece of tire tread missing from the inner tire of the right rear.
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This cost about $186 and 90 minutes to fix. We picked up everyone and
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|
started out from Omaha for the show. About 80 miles down the road I looked
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at the instrument panel and thought "That really ought to be charging the
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|
battery". When we got to DesMoines we asked directions to an auto parts
|
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place. We replaced the alternator brushes for about $5 and a 30 minute
|
|
delay this time. This worked and we were on the road again. While going
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down the road we occasionally smelled burnt rubber. At one of the gas
|
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stops we saw that when the tire place swapped tires to put the older ones
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on the outside they had not checked the clearance between the tires and the
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fender. The inner tires were moved to the outside so they would be easier
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to get to in case of trouble. This seemed to make sense because the new
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tires would not likely have any problems. However the old inner tires are
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a bit wider and scuffed the fenders when going over bumps. We got to the
|
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show and I swapped the tires around the next afternoon. When that was fi
|
|
finished I took the camper out for a short test and to get supper. About
|
|
half way there I noticed that the speedometer was stuck at zero. I had a
|
|
busted cable. By this time it was dark so I got out a small 12 volt light
|
|
my wife bought for me. When I plugged it into the cigarette lighter there
|
|
was a small click and the dome light went out. BLOWN FUSE!!! Aafter this
|
|
no further repairs were attempted and the rest of the trip was problem free.
|
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At times I was tempted to ask "WHAT NEXT??!!". But then I decided it might
|
|
be safer not to ask. You can consider this a letter to the editor and print
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it if you wish. Take care and hope we both have better luck on the road.
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Mark
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92771 9-JUN 19:58 General Information
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RE: Trip Troubles (Re: Msg 92766)
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From: CLTUCKER To: MODEL299
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Welcome to the motor home clan and all of its tribulations. For years we
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have traveled to Alaska, Nova Scotia and Miami. Nothing but trouble, trouble.
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hey should rename them Trouble Homes.(g)
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92808 14-JUN 23:44 General Information
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RE: Trip Troubles (Re: Msg 92771)
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From: MODEL299 To: CLTUCKER
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Perhapse they should. However, I save on pitstops when the wife is
|
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traveling with me. Having a portable bathroom sure comes in handy!!!
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-Mark-
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End of Thread.
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92767 9-JUN 00:33 Telecom (6809)
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EMail Address
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From: EARLCASPER To: ALL
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What is my Delphi EMail address? - Earl
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92768 9-JUN 01:04 Telecom (6809)
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RE: EMail Address (Re: Msg 92767)
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From: WA2EGP To: EARLCASPER
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I would assume it is earlcasper@delphi.com.
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92772 9-JUN 21:23 Telecom (6809)
|
|
RE: EMail Address (Re: Msg 92767)
|
|
From: ISC To: EARLCASPER
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|
> What is my Delphi EMail address? - Earl
|
|
>
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|
earlcasper@delphi.com
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|
Bill
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92797 12-JUN 23:14 Telecom (6809)
|
|
RE: EMail Address (Re: Msg 92767)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: EARLCASPER
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|
Earl your Delphi Internet address is 'Earlcasper@delphi.com'
|
|
without the single quotes of course. Within Delphi of course,
|
|
people can just email you at 'Earlcasper'.
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|
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See Ya!
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|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
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End of Thread.
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92773 10-JUN 03:49 Programmers Den
|
|
Help a Monk
|
|
From: REVWCP To: ALL
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|
|
|
Dear Friends:
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|
|
|
I am in the midst of working on a project and I need to know if it is
|
|
possible to write a program, preferably in Basic09, that can do the
|
|
following:
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|
|
|
1. Determine if the CPU is a 6809 or 6309.
|
|
2. Determine that if the CPU is a 6309, is it running in
|
|
6809 emulation, Powerboosted Mode, or Native Mode.
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|
|
|
Thank you for your help.
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
|
+: With all best wishes, ::::: When all else fails :+
|
|
+: Brother Jeremy, CSJW ::::::::::: ask a Monk :::::+
|
|
+: OS9 Users Group Treasurer ::::::::::::::::::::::::+
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+::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::+
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|
+::: revwcp@delphi.com :::::::::: CIS - 76477,142 :::+
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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92776 10-JUN 21:46 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: Help a Monk (Re: Msg 92773)
|
|
From: RANDYKWILSON To: REVWCP
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|
|
Br. Jeremy
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|
|
|
Not too long ago, I gave Ricku a Basic09 routine that would determine
|
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if the system was in normal (6809), PowerBoost (normal), PowerBoost (native)
|
|
or Nitros mode. If in normal mode, it could not determine between a 6809
|
|
and a 6309. Indeed, I can not think of a way to do that from Basic. The
|
|
only strategy I can think of would be to try a 6309 only instruction
|
|
(the 6809 will ignore it as illegal) to modify a testing value. This
|
|
would require direct access to machine instructions, assembler. Though,
|
|
I suppose such a thing could be made as a subroutine callable by basic.
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|
|
|
If Rick does not have the routine handy, I might still have a copy I could
|
|
email.
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|
Randy
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92777 10-JUN 22:52 Programmers Den
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RE: Help a Monk (Re: Msg 92776)
|
|
From: CLTUCKER To: RANDYKWILSON
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|
|
Hi Randy. Have you released the updated version of SuperComm yet?(g)
|
|
cl
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92779 11-JUN 00:27 Programmers Den
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|
RE: Help a Monk (Re: Msg 92773)
|
|
From: COCOKIWI To: REVWCP
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|
lets see!..the MD register is like the CC one in the 6809.....
|
|
bit - 0 returns 0 if in 6809 mode
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1 if in native mode
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bit - 1 returns 0 if FIRQ is normal
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|
1 if same as IRQ ........these are WRITE bits
|
|
6 & 7 are error traps
|
|
read bits......if one could READ the BIT 0
|
|
it would tell one if you was in Native mode or not
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|
|
we hope!<grin>......have to power up the system and see....Dennis
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|
92780 11-JUN 11:06 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: Help a Monk (Re: Msg 92776)
|
|
From: REVWCP To: RANDYKWILSON
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|
|
|
Dear Randy:
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|
|
In reply to your message;
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|
|
> Not too long ago, I gave Ricku a Basic09 routine that would determine
|
|
> if the system was in normal (6809), PowerBoost (normal), PowerBoost (native)
|
|
> or Nitros mode.
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|
|
|
> If Rick does not have the routine handy, I might still have a copy I could
|
|
> email.
|
|
>
|
|
Rick had one of his famous system crashes last week. I missed it, as I was
|
|
not at the meeting that night, but I understand it quite spectacular. If
|
|
possible, please see if you still have a copy. As for assembler, this
|
|
could very well be the excuse that I have needed to get assembling (?). I
|
|
have both RMA and ASM so there is really no reason that I shouldn't try writing
|
|
something, other than having no idea where to start. But then I was never one
|
|
to let knowledge stand in the way of my making a decision....
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
|
+: With all best wishes, ::::: When all else fails :+
|
|
+: Brother Jeremy, CSJW ::::::::::: ask a Monk :::::+
|
|
+: OS9 Users Group Treasurer ::::::::::::::::::::::::+
|
|
+::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::+
|
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+::: revwcp@delphi.com :::::::::: CIS - 76477,142 :::+
|
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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92789 11-JUN 23:25 Programmers Den
|
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RE: Help a Monk (Re: Msg 92780)
|
|
From: RANDYKWILSON To: REVWCP
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|
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Br. Jeremy,
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|
|
Okay already. A "good idea of where to start" is now sitting in your mail
|
|
box. Code was written on my MM/1, and is, as is the norm lately, totally
|
|
untested.
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|
|
Rick crashed *again*?? I think I shall rig up a coco with an airbag as
|
|
a present. :>
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|
Randy
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92791 12-JUN 01:07 Programmers Den
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RE: Help a Monk (Re: Msg 92789)
|
|
From: NIMITZ To: RANDYKWILSON
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Randy, perhaps you should make that DUAL airbags! ;)
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92793 12-JUN 02:38 Programmers Den
|
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RE: Help a Monk (Re: Msg 92789)
|
|
From: REVWCP To: RANDYKWILSON
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|
|
Dear Randy:
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|
|
> A "good idea of where to start" is now sitting in your mail
|
|
> box. Code was written on my MM/1, and is, as is the norm lately, totally
|
|
> untested.
|
|
>
|
|
Thank you have it safely downloaded and will be trying my hand with it
|
|
later on today,(as it is 1:37 am here in Wisconsin as I type this.) I'll
|
|
let you know how things work out.
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|
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
|
+: With all best wishes, ::::: When all else fails :+
|
|
+: Brother Jeremy, CSJW ::::::::::: ask a Monk :::::+
|
|
+: OS9 Users Group Treasurer ::::::::::::::::::::::::+
|
|
+::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::+
|
|
+::: revwcp@delphi.com :::::::::: CIS - 76477,142 :::+
|
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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92827 19-JUN 00:46 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: Help a Monk (Re: Msg 92789)
|
|
From: JOELHEGBERG To: RANDYKWILSON
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|
|
> Rick crashed *again*?? I think I shall rig up a coco with an airbag
|
|
> as a present. :>
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|
|
Heh heh, good idea, Randy! Rick's coco's can do a lot more than any
|
|
ordinary CoCo... the only problem is it can only do for a random amount
|
|
of time before crashing. <g> (Just teasin' you, Rick, since I've been
|
|
too busy to tease you from my 68'Micros column! ;)
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-- Joel.
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End of Thread.
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92778 10-JUN 23:28 Applications (6809)
|
|
D.L. LOGO
|
|
From: MANTONY To: ALL
|
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|
|
I've been looking for advice on running D.L. Logo under OS9 LV2. Searched
|
|
all my past Rainbows and all Delphi Topics for info on possible patches
|
|
with no success. The only advice I've found is in 2 past RAinbows
|
|
which state that D.L. LOGO will; run properly under LV2 if started in
|
|
a VDG window. I've had only particial success doing this. I recall
|
|
that COCOPro while they were still in business used to sell used copies
|
|
of D. L. LOGO with the proper patches to run under LV2. The COCOPro ad
|
|
always noted that the patches were necessary to run this program properly
|
|
under LV2. Does anyone know what those patches are?
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92795 12-JUN 23:13 Applications (6809)
|
|
RE: D.L. LOGO (Re: Msg 92778)
|
|
From: KSCALES To: MANTONY
|
|
|
|
> I've been looking for advice on running D.L. Logo under OS9 LV2.
|
|
> Searched all my past Rainbows and all Delphi Topics for info on possible
|
|
> patches with no success. The only advice I've found is in 2 past
|
|
> RAinbows which state that D.L. LOGO will; run properly under LV2 if
|
|
> started in a VDG window. I've had only particial success doing this. I
|
|
> recall that COCOPro while they were still in business used to sell used
|
|
> copies of D. L. LOGO with the proper patches to run under LV2. The
|
|
> COCOPro ad always noted that the patches were necessary to run this
|
|
> program properly under LV2. Does anyone know what those patches are?
|
|
|
|
There may be a message in the forum here from a couple of years back
|
|
covering what you need to do. I don't know the most efficient way of
|
|
searching for it, but something like:
|
|
dir from kscales subject logo
|
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|
|
might do it. (Before sending this, I logged in and checked... the above
|
|
worked, and listed 4 messages. Check 21841, 72314, 81858, and 81967.)
|
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|
|
You're half-way there by using the VDG screen. The
|
|
other trick is that DL Logo ONLY UNDERSTANDS COMMANDS IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
|
|
So, you can either press shift whenever typing your commands, or toggle
|
|
caps-lock on (lessee, I think that's Ctrl-zero under L2???), or possibly
|
|
type "tmode upc" (???) on the VDG window before executing Logo.
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Otherwise, I don't think any patches are required. I found it advantageous
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to patch the Logo module to increase the default memory size, since L2
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leaves a larger available area for the data area than L1 did.
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Sorry about all of the "???" above, but my Level 2 is getting awfully rusty
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since the MM/1 moved in.
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Good luck... / Ken
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237
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92807 14-JUN 23:04 Applications (6809)
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RE: D.L. LOGO (Re: Msg 92795)
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From: MANTONY To: KSCALES
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I appreciate any info no matter how sketchy. This is my third month on
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Delphi and I'm still stumbling around Delphi trying to get past info-so
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I appreciate the pointers.
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92840 19-JUN 20:49 Applications (6809)
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RE: D.L. LOGO (Re: Msg 92795)
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From: DBREEDING To: KSCALES
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> You're half-way there by using the VDG screen. The
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> other trick is that DL Logo ONLY UNDERSTANDS COMMANDS IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
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> So, you can either press shift whenever typing your commands, or toggle
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> caps-lock on (lessee, I think that's Ctrl-zero under L2???), or possibly
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> type "tmode upc" (???) on the VDG window before executing Logo.
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> Sorry about all of the "???" above, but my Level 2 is getting awfully
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> rusty since the MM/1 moved in.
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heh-heh.. It doesn't take long for some of that stuff to get a little
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foggy, does it? I still have my coco hooked up, go back to it occasionally.
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It's like meeting an old friend, but some of the stuff is beginning to
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go. The worst problem I have is the keyboard and the fact that most of
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the parameters on the coco don't take the "-" before them <G>
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92841 19-JUN 20:49 Applications (6809)
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RE: D.L. LOGO (Re: Msg 92807)
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From: DBREEDING To: MANTONY
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> I appreciate any info no matter how sketchy. This is my third month on
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> Delphi and I'm still stumbling around Delphi trying to get past info-so
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> I appreciate the pointers.
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If you run into problems, just ask. One thing you'll find out about this
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group is that everyone is more than happy to help. I've asked a few
|
|
questions and been almost swamped by answers at times.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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92842 19-JUN 22:22 Applications (6809)
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RE: D.L. LOGO (Re: Msg 92841)
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From: MANTONY To: DBREEDING
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Thank you. Will do.
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92865 22-JUN 20:43 Applications (6809)
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RE: D.L. LOGO (Re: Msg 92807)
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From: THETAURUS To: MANTONY
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>>I appreciate any info no matter how sketchy<<
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Don't worry, we love getting new 'faces' in here. I'm still
|
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constantly whining for help so don't worry, no one will tire of
|
|
your questions :-)
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Of course you should consider signing up to a local or national
|
|
user group and subscribe to one(or more) of the publications out
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there(there are a few). They are a definate help.
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See Ya
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Chris Perrault
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OS-9 Users' Group
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Sourcebook Coordinator
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End of Thread.
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92786 11-JUN 16:52 General Information
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OS-9 Late Night Schedule(fixed)
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From: THETAURUS To: ALL
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OS-9 Late Night
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Conference Schedual
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For June AND July
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Date Time(EST) Topic
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June 5, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
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June 12, 1995 10:00 PM Let the Games Begin!
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|
What are your favorite OS-9 and Coco based games? There
|
|
have been many to come along over the years, not even
|
|
including what is available for CD-I! What new games would
|
|
be nice to see? Gaming enthusiasts will want to be onhand
|
|
for this :-)
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June 19, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
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June 26, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
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July 3, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
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July 10, 1995 10:00 PM Beginners Night!
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How do I set up OS-9 correctly? What modules should I
|
|
patch/leave alone? What apps should I buy, where can I get
|
|
them? Why do I keep getting this (#'%("!(%&! error 216
|
|
message!? Find out all this and more on Beginners' night!
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July 17, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
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|
July 24, 1995 10:00 PM OS-9 User's Group
|
|
Discussion
|
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|
|
Mike Rowen, the Vice-President of the OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
representing the Level's I and II users of OS-9, will be on
|
|
hand. He is going to cover ideas for upcoming projects to
|
|
maintain activity for those using OS-9 on a 6809 or
|
|
compatible based machine(Coco 3,Dragon, etc..). If you are a
|
|
Level I or II user you will want to attend and give Mike any
|
|
feedback you may have, or drop him a line and let him know
|
|
if you are available to to get involved in any future
|
|
projects.
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July 31, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
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92787 11-JUN 18:10 General Information
|
|
Re your IN Post
|
|
From: MRUPGRADE To: ARTFLEXSER (NR)
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|
I'm adding the Internet reply here, for what it's worth. Primarily for
|
|
theh benefit of others ofcourse. I (grin) thiink you've seen it by now.
|
|
RE> Until your post I've always read "& Country" Kinda like
|
|
Kountry Kitchen....
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|
|
|
Hi Art,
|
|
A good point. And I've at least suspected many read the Mid Iowa
|
|
and ignored the & Country. Course now,, little did I suspect some
|
|
would read it as like,, (grin) "& out into the corn fields too".
|
|
Yet I know there could be a better discriptive Club name. But then
|
|
some of the members balked at the mere adding of "& Country to our
|
|
local group". The best I could get them to accept was a motion to
|
|
try it for a year,,, and they (grin) forgot, thus any "change back"
|
|
was forgotten. Then too, at times we've had more members in either
|
|
AZ or WA then in Iowa. And they all can vote on any major change.
|
|
And perhaps too, it my despise for pretensiousness. Many like
|
|
yourself make no bones, about who you are. A heck-uva good
|
|
programmer (perhaps, an understatement at that) who sells a heck-uva
|
|
greal DOS enhancement. On the other hand I've recieved 5+ page
|
|
flyers from McBigTech, Inc type fellows. And there name can't be
|
|
found anywhere in those 5+ pages? I guess I'm suppose to figure
|
|
it's such a huge corperation, that the guy's name,,, who (grin) sits
|
|
at the end of the kitchen table opening the mail,, isn't
|
|
applicable. Baloney!
|
|
So perhaps I lean too far the other way. What the hey,, we're
|
|
just a lil' ol' group of guys and gals who for several years now,
|
|
are among, if not "the": largest in CoCo reachouts in America and
|
|
Canada.
|
|
"Mid Iowa & Country CoCo" (smile) (country as in all over the US)
|
|
Thanks for the reply,, I guess the secret is out.
|
|
|
|
Signed
|
|
Regional director for the Midwestern district of the Americas
|
|
group for Color Computers International. (and mail clerk)
|
|
Terry Simons
|
|
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|
92798 12-JUN 23:14 Users Group
|
|
Sourcebook/other services
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
|
|
I was wondering if there is anyone here that user CIS and Genie
|
|
or any other commercial service that supports OS-9, that could
|
|
post the Sourcebook entry forms in their respective forums? I'm
|
|
not a member of Genie,Cis or Channel 1 or any of them that might
|
|
support OS-9. I completely forgot about this, and don't want to
|
|
leave the other users out at all, so any help will be appreciated!
|
|
|
|
|
|
See Ya
|
|
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
|
|
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|
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|
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|
|
|
|
92839 19-JUN 20:49 Users Group
|
|
RE: Sourcebook/other services (Re: Msg 92798)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: THETAURUS
|
|
|
|
> I was wondering if there is anyone here that user CIS and Genie
|
|
> or any other commercial service that supports OS-9, that could
|
|
> post the Sourcebook entry forms in their respective forums?
|
|
|
|
I can put it onto CI$. How can they return it to you? Do you want to
|
|
provide a snailmail address? I wonder, would CI$ squawk at having
|
|
your Delphi internet address on it, or do you prefer not to get it in
|
|
email?
|
|
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92869 22-JUN 20:44 Users Group
|
|
RE: Sourcebook/other services (Re: Msg 92839)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
>>I can put it onto CI$. How can they return it to you?<<
|
|
|
|
Oh yeah, I don't think the form has the return addresses on it.
|
|
They can either email it to me at: Thetaurus@Delphi.com or send it
|
|
to the UG's Snail Mail address at the end of this message.
|
|
|
|
>>I wonder, would CI$ squawk at having your Delphi internet
|
|
address on it...<<
|
|
|
|
No, that won't bother them. If they have internet access, they
|
|
are gonna get used to seeing a million other internet addresses.
|
|
Even if they did(and they won't), they still need some activity in
|
|
the OS-9 sig anyway. I guess it's been rather quiet there the last
|
|
couple years(hope the price reduction brings more OS-9 and Coco
|
|
types out of the woodwork for those on CIS).
|
|
|
|
|
|
Snail mail return address below:
|
|
|
|
The OS-9 Users' Group Inc.
|
|
6158 West 63rd Street
|
|
Suite 109
|
|
Chicago, Il. 60638
|
|
USA
|
|
|
|
See Ya and thanks David!
|
|
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92803 14-JUN 22:08 General Informtion THETAURUS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
This is a quick reminder that this coming Monday night at 10:00
|
|
PM Eastern time will be our weekly 'OS-9 Late Night' conference.
|
|
This week we will be having an Open Forum, so anything and
|
|
everything is up for discussion. Please try to make it if you can,
|
|
and help keep these conferences interesting. It's a bit quiet as
|
|
of late... Again, don't hesitate to stop by as everything is up
|
|
for discussion and NOTHING is SACRED!
|
|
|
|
Ahem, excuse me, Brother Jeremy would like to have a word with
|
|
me outside... ;-)
|
|
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92809 15-JUN 00:33 Telecom (6809)
|
|
28.8 modems
|
|
From: EARLCASPER To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Is there a baud rate between 57.6 and 115.2 that 28.8 modems can talk
|
|
with their computers? - Earl
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92811 16-JUN 21:03 Telecom (6809)
|
|
Baud
|
|
From: WILLIAMSON68 To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I'm really having a problem connecting to delphi @ 2400 baud. I access thru
|
|
sprintnet on a 512k 6809 machine-avatex 2400 modem. the problem is that DELPHI
|
|
will only let me connect at 1200 baud using the @ D which as I understand
|
|
should be the connect for 2400 baud. However, the HS light on the modem is not
|
|
lit. I know the modem is allright, at least everything works as it should when
|
|
I go online under decb. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks. WILLIAMSON68
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92818 17-JUN 12:18 Telecom (6809)
|
|
RE: Baud (Re: Msg 92811)
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: WILLIAMSON68
|
|
|
|
> I'm really having a problem connecting to delphi @ 2400 baud. I access
|
|
> thru sprintnet on a 512k 6809 machine-avatex 2400 modem. the problem is
|
|
> that DELPHI
|
|
> will only let me connect at 1200 baud using the @ D which as I understand
|
|
> should be the connect for 2400 baud. However, the HS light on the modem is
|
|
> not
|
|
> lit. I know the modem is allright, at least everything works as it should
|
|
> when
|
|
> I go online under decb. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
|
|
|
|
I used to use that modem when I was CoCoing so I know it can be done. Do
|
|
you have your descriptor (/t2) set to 2400 baud? I am assuming you are
|
|
using a hardware serial card (like the Tandy serial pak), right?
|
|
|
|
Bests
|
|
---TedJaeger
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92843 19-JUN 22:23 Telecom (6809)
|
|
RE: Baud (Re: Msg 92818)
|
|
From: WILLIAMSON68 To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
I'm running supercomm v 2.2 which should configure the rs232 @ whatever baud
|
|
I set the emulator for (I think?). At least the modem still shows a hs
|
|
indicator when I receive the sprintnet signal. It simply refuses to connect.
|
|
The curious
|
|
thing is that when I sign on, I have to use the 2400 baud sign on @ &UPCASE D
|
|
when I make connect @ 1200 baud. Any ideas??
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92849 20-JUN 22:24 Telecom (6809)
|
|
RE: Baud (Re: Msg 92843)
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: WILLIAMSON68
|
|
|
|
> I'm running supercomm v 2.2 which should configure the rs232 @ whatever
|
|
> baud I set the emulator for (I think?). At least the modem still shows a
|
|
> hs indicator when I receive the sprintnet signal. It simply refuses to
|
|
> connect. The curious
|
|
> thing is that when I sign on, I have to use the 2400 baud sign on @
|
|
> &UPCASE D when I make connect @ 1200 baud. Any ideas??
|
|
|
|
That sounds weird to me, unless your calling a sprintnet node that only
|
|
supports 1200 baud, but I figure they dont exist anymore, right?
|
|
|
|
Bests
|
|
---TedJaeger
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92874 23-JUN 00:08 Telecom (6809)
|
|
RE: Baud (Re: Msg 92849)
|
|
From: WILLIAMSON68 To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
It was kinda wierd to me also, however, I've connected thru tymnet & every-
|
|
thing runs perfect! Hard to say where the problem is but i'm rather sure it's
|
|
not on my end now. Who knows? Anyway, thanks for the reply. Dan
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92812 16-JUN 21:06 Games & Graphics
|
|
LII stdpats
|
|
From: DOMM To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I wonder if someone could point me in the right direction.
|
|
|
|
What I'd like to be able to do is alter the patterns in MVCanvas. I imagine
|
|
these are the stdpats_xx, etc..
|
|
|
|
Can someone tell me what the best way to do this with some program from
|
|
the database. So far I'm toying with "ICE" but keep getting an error
|
|
situation. I believe (?) ICE was written around '87. Is there a newer
|
|
better way or should I just hang in there until I get this working?
|
|
|
|
Thanks.
|
|
|
|
---Dom
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92813 16-JUN 22:47 General Information
|
|
Sourcebook User Form
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: THETAURUS
|
|
|
|
Completed my Sourcebook Form and then realized I dont know where to snail mail
|
|
the thing. Could you provide an address?
|
|
Bests
|
|
---TedJaeger
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92866 22-JUN 20:43 General Information
|
|
RE: Sourcebook User Form (Re: Msg 92813)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
>>Completed my Sourcebook Form and then realized I don't know
|
|
where to snail mail the thing. Could you provide an address?<<
|
|
|
|
I can do that. :-)
|
|
|
|
Btw, sorry about the late replies. I had a smaller batch of
|
|
messages almost completed when my system froze(courtesy of my
|
|
Burke and Burke controller which just doesn't seem happy in the
|
|
Multi-Pak). Anyway I lost the whole file, and started doing the
|
|
replies again now. My system is so sensitive as of late(actually
|
|
has been for quite some time but is getting worse again), and
|
|
keeps crashing so it is hard to try running anything for an
|
|
extended period without having it freeze up. I am doing constant
|
|
saves with VED here this time<G>.
|
|
|
|
Anyway here comes the snail mail address to the OS-9 Users'
|
|
Group:
|
|
|
|
The OS-9 Users' Group Inc.
|
|
6158 West 63rd Street
|
|
Suite 109
|
|
Chicago, Il. 60638
|
|
USA
|
|
|
|
See Ya
|
|
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92814 17-JUN 00:24 General Information
|
|
I'm back
|
|
From: NEWKID To: ALL
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well after a brief mishap with my 8CM515 monitor, that is going to the shop,
|
|
I'm back on-line again. And for all the older CoCoist out there I'm using
|
|
the old vintage 1986 Magnavox Amber screen monitor. One of the monitors
|
|
used when the old CoCo 1 was set up to rum with 80 columns. Yep, I go way
|
|
back.
|
|
|
|
I need to know a few things.
|
|
|
|
1) Do we still have any Vendors in the CoCo Community ( esp OS9 ) ?
|
|
|
|
2) What good mags are still printing ( stopped reading after Rainbow faded) ?
|
|
|
|
3) Is Conect ( Rick Ulland ) still in business ? We have some unfinished.
|
|
|
|
Thanks for assistance.
|
|
|
|
James Mc Daniel
|
|
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
92817 17-JUN 11:02 General Information
|
|
RE: I'm back (Re: Msg 92814)
|
|
From: JEJONES To: NEWKID
|
|
|
|
> I need to know a few things.
|
|
|
|
OK. We'll do what we can, and I'm sure others will fill in stuff I forget.
|
|
|
|
> 1) Do we still have any Vendors in the CoCo Community ( esp OS9 ) ?
|
|
|
|
You bet. CoNect, Northern Xposure, Chris Dekker, FARNA Systems come
|
|
immediately to mind; if I had a magazine in hand I'd have a longer list,
|
|
which leads up to...
|
|
|
|
> 2) What good mags are still printing ( stopped reading after Rainbow
|
|
> faded) ?
|
|
|
|
Frank Swygert's *The World of 68 Micros* is still around; it goes almost
|
|
without saying that you should give serious thought to joining appropriate
|
|
users groups.
|
|
|
|
> 3) Is Conect ( Rick Ulland ) still in business ?
|
|
|
|
Yes, he is.
|
|
|
|
Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
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|
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|
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|
|
92815 17-JUN 07:49 General Information
|
|
DISTO PRODUCTS
|
|
From: RONMAGOO To: ALL
|
|
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Dose anyone know if Tony (Disto o Products) has a Delphi username or an
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internet address ??
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92816 17-JUN 10:47 General Information
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RE: DISTO PRODUCTS (Re: Msg 92815)
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From: DISTO To: RONMAGOO
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Yea, I think his Delphi name is DISTO. I got you package the other day,
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but I didn't have any time to look at it yet. -Tony.
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92819 17-JUN 13:35 General Information
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RE: DISTO PRODUCTS (Re: Msg 92816)
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From: JOHNBAER To: DISTO
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(hehe) - I like your style Tony <g>.
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John -
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92832 19-JUN 06:53 General Information
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RE: DISTO PRODUCTS (Re: Msg 92816)
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From: RONMAGOO To: DISTO
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Thanks for the reply Tony. I am releived to know you received it. I will be
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looking forward to your next message.
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-= RON =-
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End of Thread.
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92820 18-JUN 06:39 General Information
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Scaleing
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From: LARRYOLSON To: BOISY
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Boisy,
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In doing all this thinking about scaleing affecting the GET/PUT function,
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it finally hit me that this was the cause of the problem I had with the
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screen print program I wrote. The problem I ran into was that sometimes the
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program would print all the screen and sometimes it would only print one half
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of the screen. I tried every syscall in cgfx.l but I could not find out any
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information that would tell why sometimes I would get full screen printouts,
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and sometimes only half screen printouts.
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I realize now that the problem was that some of the screens were scaled
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and some were not.
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I really hate to keep throwing these things at you, but I don't know who
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else to ask, so here I go again....
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What can I do to determine whether a screen is scaled or not ?
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p.s. I still have not had any luck in decoding that file you sent, so
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I can't tell if it corrects the problem or not.
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larry
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92852 21-JUN 01:12 General Information
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RE: Scaleing (Re: Msg 92820)
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From: CHYDE To: LARRYOLSON
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I'm not sure about a syscall to tell whether scaling is on or not, but you
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can use ScaleSW() (in Mike Sweet's cgfx lib). You might try looking through
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the Window section of the Level 2 manuals.
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Chris
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92853 21-JUN 03:39 General Information
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RE: Scaleing (Re: Msg 92852)
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From: LARRYOLSON To: CHYDE
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> I'm not sure about a syscall to tell whether scaling is on or not, but
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> you can use ScaleSW() (in Mike Sweet's cgfx lib). You might try looking
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> through the Window section of the Level 2 manuals.
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Chris
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Yes I know about the ScaleSw() function, what I need is a way to tell
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if a particular window has scaling on or off. For an example I can start
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up and display a picture using Gifshow. Gifshow opens up a window using
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/w6, I then run the screen print program on /w6, and it works just fine.
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I then run my Makpal program, it opens up a window on /w7, I then run the
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screen print program on /w7, but only half of the screen(horizontally) is
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printed out. Using all the available calls,(_gs_winfo, _gs_scsz, _gs_styp
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and so on), I get reports of identical screen sizes for both /w6 & /w7,
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both say that they are 320 pixels wide. Just lately I found out that
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scaling is turned on by default, and if you don't want it you must shut it
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off, well in the Makpal program I didn't shut off scaling, so even though
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it reports itself as a 320 pixel wide screen it is acutally 640 pixels
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wide. While apparently Gifshow turns scaling off, so its 320 wide screen
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is actually 320 pixels wide.
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Now my dumb screen print program gets the window info and is told
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that /w7 is 320 pixels wide, so it only gets 320 pixels horizontally,
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ignoring the second half of the screen.
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As a klugg fix I added an option on the command line so when you print
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out a screen but only get half of it then try again with the -f option
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enabled, which will double the pixel count and print out the entire screen,
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but it would be a whole lot better if the program could find out whether
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the screen is using scaling or not and adjust itself accordingly.
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Please excuse the length of this reply, I tend to ramble.
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larry
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92857 21-JUN 20:56 General Information
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RE: Scaleing (Re: Msg 92853)
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From: NIMITZ To: LARRYOLSON
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Larry, this is going to be hairy for awhile - but if we don't want a lot of
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broken programs out there, we'd better try something like turning scaling
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off at the start of all programs, in order to keep track of what it is.
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Darn it! Hopefully we can get such a status call in RSN.
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David
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92858 21-JUN 22:51 General Information
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RE: Scaleing (Re: Msg 92852)
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From: WDTV5 To: LARRYOLSON
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There is not to my limited knowledge, a call that returns the status of
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aleing switch byte. To be safe, just command it in the mode you want
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it in with the appropriate esc codes, or as suggested, use Mikes cgfx.l to
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make the command call. That is not to say that an enterprising programmer,
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with enough info in hand, couldn't write a util to do that, rather along
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the lines of xmode I would imagine. Its a system call that really does
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need adding to the screen driver, probably grfdrv as I believe thats
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where the scaling takes place. Check with Alan Dekok, Colin McKay etc
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about it if you're using nitros9, otherwise there may be enough clues in
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Kevins Inside Os9 L 2 to make it work.
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Cheers Larry, Gene
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92859 22-JUN 03:39 General Information
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RE: Scaleing (Re: Msg 92857)
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From: LARRYOLSON To: NIMITZ
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> Larry, this is going to be hairy for awhile - but if we don't want a lot
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> of broken programs out there, we'd better try something like turning
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> scaling off at the start of all programs, in order to keep track of what
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> it is. Darn it! Hopefully we can get such a status call in RSN.
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David
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I don't know if there would be alot of broken programs out there, as
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far as I know, I'm the only one that has run into this problem <g>.
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In regards to a status call, you probably don't need to go that far,
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there 10 reserved shorts in _gs_winfo, couldn't one of them be w_scal,
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with 0 = scaleing off, 1= scaleing on. I know that the scaleing status
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is being kept someplace in Kwindows, it just needs to be a little more
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available. <g>
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If I had to choose though, an interruptable ss_play tops my list, say
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you have some sound or music playing at the opening screen of a program
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with a click button or press key to start the program displayed, the user
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is going to expect the program to start when the button or key is pressed
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and not have to wait till the music ends. This is just one example, I can
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think of more examples where you might want to stop ss_play, but you get
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the idea. <g> In the SCC68070 manual, in the DMA section, it talks of a
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software abort flag, which sounds like what is needed, but I don't know
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if there would be problems with doing the same thing with the 68340.
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larry
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92875 23-JUN 01:23 General Information
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RE: Scaleing (Re: Msg 92859)
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From: NIMITZ To: LARRYOLSON
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Good ideas, and I think Eddie Kuns is working on those sound ideas now.
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DAvid
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End of Thread.
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92824 18-JUN 14:23 General Information
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Worth Mention....
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From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL
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Worth mention in passing....
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Information taken from the Des Moines Register.
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(Des Moines, IA)
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John Atanasoff constructed his first working computer in the
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basement of the Physics building of what is now Iowa State
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|
University. IN THE LATE 1930's. Though it wasn't until 1973 after
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patent infringement suits, that a federal court ruled his research;
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|
"was the source for the ideas of modern computers". Scientists have
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called him the "Thomas Edison of the electronc digitial
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computer".
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|
John A Atanasoff at his home in New Market MD, died of a stroke June
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15, 1995. He was 91 years old.
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Sendors comentary:
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I had never heard his name before. It seems so odd I'd never heard
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his name before. Odd,,, because we all on our CoCo's, our Amiga's,
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|
the PC, MAC, & compatibles, owe a debt of grattitude to this fellow.
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So many times we feel as though, just one person can not possible make
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a difference. John Atanasoff certainly did that.
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Terry Simons, UPGRADE Disk Magazine (for the CoCo) Editor
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92833 19-JUN 13:44 General Information
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CONFERENCE REMINDER
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From: MROWEN01 To: ALL
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|
Remember! Tonight is OS-9 Late Night in the Delphi conference area!
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|
It's tonight (19 June 95) at 10:00PM ET! Drop by and chat!
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Mike Rowen
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VP OS-9/6809
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OS-9 Users Group
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mrowen01@delphi.com
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92846 20-JUN 06:58 General Information
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|
Forum messages
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|
From: MROWEN01 To: ALL
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|
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|
Is there any way to pull text in from your workspace and post it here?
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Thanks
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|
-Mike Rowen
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92847 20-JUN 10:45 General Information
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|
RE: Forum messages (Re: Msg 92846)
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|
From: JIMDIXON To: MROWEN01
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|
Mike:
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|
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|
To send a file from your workspace as a message, simply type
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|
ADD filename or REPLY filename, depending on whether your replying or
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|
starting a new thread. To include the text in a message in progress,
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you have to use the editor, and I'm rusty enough at that not to attempt
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the details. :)
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|
James Dixon
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|
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92850 20-JUN 23:33 General Information
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|
RE: Forum messages (Re: Msg 92847)
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|
From: MROWEN01 To: JIMDIXON
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|
Thanks! That's great! Ask and ye shall receive!
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Mike Rowen
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End of Thread.
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92851 20-JUN 23:36 General Information
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|
New Conference being formed on the IRC
|
|
From: MROWEN01 To: ALL
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|
|
NOTICE:
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|
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|
I am planning to begin an OS-9 IRC conference for all those interested.
|
|
Details will be forwarded in the near future. I still need some input from
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|
those interested in this conference :
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|
1. What day is best for everyone?
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|
2. What time is best for everyone?
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|
3. Who will work with me to moderate this conference?
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|
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|
4. What specific topics would you like to discuss?
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|
Please send your responses to mrowen01@delphi.com. Thanks!
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|
Mike Rowen
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|
VP OS-9/6809
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|
OS-9 Users Group
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92856 21-JUN 20:56 General Information
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|
RE: New Conference being formed on the I (Re: Msg 92851)
|
|
From: NIMITZ To: MROWEN01
|
|
|
|
Mike, in regards to this, I need some help putting together an IRC
|
|
conference for DODMA - many attendees are not Delphi users, thus my need for
|
|
IRC - can you enlighten me on the techniques? (I'd like to collect your
|
|
messages for an article for MOTD, OK?)
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|
David
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|
92861 22-JUN 11:00 General Information
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|
RE: New Conference being formed on the I (Re: Msg 92856)
|
|
From: MROWEN01 To: NIMITZ
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|
|
|
Hi David,
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|
|
|
Your welcome to collect messages. I don't know that there are any
|
|
specific techniques I can describe. Maybe you could be more specific. The
|
|
ICR is very similar to the conference utility on Delphi. Your best bet is
|
|
to come up with a unique name for the channe. (DODMA come to mind!) publish
|
|
the channel name for all those who want to join. If privacy is an issue or
|
|
you wish to keep the rest of the world from poping in to ask what on earth
|
|
DODMA is, you can set up a channel that only people invited in can get to.
|
|
I'll leave it at that until you come up with some specific questions. I hope
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I can help you out.
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|
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|
Mike Rowen
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92876 23-JUN 01:24 General Information
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|
RE: New Conference being formed on the I (Re: Msg 92861)
|
|
From: NIMITZ To: MROWEN01
|
|
|
|
Mike, thanks for the reply, I'll set a schedule ASAP and go for a conference
|
|
on delphi. What address would a person telnet to to attend from outside?
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|
92879 24-JUN 01:26 General Information
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|
RE: New Conference being formed on the I (Re: Msg 92851)
|
|
From: JOELHEGBERG To: MROWEN01
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|
|
Mike,
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|
|
> 1. What day is best for everyone?
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|
|
Most any night is fine for me if advance notice is given.
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|
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|
> 2. What time is best for everyone?
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|
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I like 10 pm eastern.
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|
> 3. Who will work with me to moderate this conference?
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|
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|
I haven't used IRC before, but I'll help moderate if you like.
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|
-- Joel Mathew Hegberg
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End of Thread.
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92854 21-JUN 20:34 General Information
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|
NEWS FLASH
|
|
From: HAWKSOFT To: ALL
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|
|
|
NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH! NEWS FLASH!
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|
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|
Due to an impending career change (YAY!!!!) HAWKSoft will be moving it's base
|
|
of operations to the South Bend Indiana area. The move will cause major service
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|
disruptions, so, We ask all to be patient and tolerant. Things will really be
|
|
crazy around here for a while!! We'll post an address change when the new one
|
|
is available, but, the old address will still be valid (but, probably realllly
|
|
slow!). The Delphi and Internet addresses will not change (tho response time
|
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may slow some).
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|
Thanks in advance for your support!! <g>
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|
Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >******************
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92860 22-JUN 04:20 General Information
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RE: NEWS FLASH (Re: Msg 92854)
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|
From: COCOKIWI To: HAWKSOFT
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|
HMMMM! Glad i did not ship the package yet<grin> I could not find the
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|
envelope with the address on it!....ZAP the new address to me when you get
|
|
back to normal???......via Email...and package will be sent!..grats on new
|
|
job....more $$$..<G.> ....Dennis
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92872 22-JUN 21:55 General Information
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RE: NEWS FLASH (Re: Msg 92854)
|
|
From: JOHNBAER To: HAWKSOFT
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|
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|
|
Hello Chris,
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|
|
> Due to an impending career change (YAY!!!!)
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|
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|
Well congratulations and best of luck with the move and new job!
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|
I'll be looking for that new address also :)
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|
John -
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92880 24-JUN 01:26 General Information
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RE: NEWS FLASH (Re: Msg 92854)
|
|
From: JOELHEGBERG To: HAWKSOFT
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|
|
|
Chris,
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|
|
> Due to an impending career change (YAY!!!!) HAWKSoft will be moving it's
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|
Congratulations!!! I'm happy to hear that! Care to say which company?
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|
-- Joel.
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92893 25-JUN 13:36 General Information
|
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RE: NEWS FLASH (Re: Msg 92854)
|
|
From: LUCKYONE To: HAWKSOFT
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|
|
|
|
|
Hi Chris,
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|
|
|
I am happy to hear about your new job. Somebody mentioned at the Chi. Area
|
|
OS-9 meeting on Thur. (6/22). I wish you great success and the next time
|
|
I see you I hope to hear more about what you are doing.
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|
Howard
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92899 25-JUN 21:06 General Information
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|
RE: NEWS FLASH (Re: Msg 92880)
|
|
From: HAWKSOFT To: JOELHEGBERG
|
|
|
|
> Chris,
|
|
>
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|
> > Due to an impending career change (YAY!!!!) HAWKSoft will be moving
|
|
> it's
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> Congratulations!!! I'm happy to hear that! Care to say which company?
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>
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> -- Joel.
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>
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|
|
Thanks Joel!!!
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|
|
|
The Company is Syscon Intl. This sounds like it will be more fun than
|
|
Microware (and HAWKSoft can remain in business). The only "downside" is that
|
|
my "boss's" name will be Mr. Kreider. <BIG G>
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|
Chris
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|
:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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92918 27-JUN 21:03 General Information
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RE: NEWS FLASH (Re: Msg 92893)
|
|
From: HAWKSOFT To: LUCKYONE
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|
|
|
> Hi Chris,
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|
>
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|
> I am happy to hear about your new job. Somebody mentioned at the Chi.
|
|
> Area OS-9 meeting on Thur. (6/22). I wish you great success and the next
|
|
> time I see you I hope to hear more about what you are doing.
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|
>
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> Howard
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>
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|
|
Thanks Howard!!! <grrrrrr!!!>
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|
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|
Hope to be at the next Glenside meeting (the 13th???), but, I'm not
|
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sure. I have to be at my desk in South Bend on the 17th! Whew!!!!
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|
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|
Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >******************
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92922 27-JUN 23:14 General Information
|
|
RE: NEWS FLASH (Re: Msg 92899)
|
|
From: JOELHEGBERG To: HAWKSOFT
|
|
|
|
Chris,
|
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|
|
> The Company is Syscon Intl. This sounds like it will be more fun than
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Awesome! I'm very excited for you!
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> that my "boss's" name will be Mr. Kreider. <BIG G>
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I'm so sorry for you... I hear he's a real slave-driver... <G>
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-- Joel.
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92923 28-JUN 22:01 General Information
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RE: NEWS FLASH (Re: Msg 92922)
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From: HAWKSOFT To: JOELHEGBERG
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> Chris,
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>
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> > The Company is Syscon Intl. This sounds like it will be more fun than
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>
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> Awesome! I'm very excited for you!
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>
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Thanks!! Me toooooo!!!!!!! This is my kind of programming!!!
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> > that my "boss's" name will be Mr. Kreider. <BIG G>
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>
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> I'm so sorry for you... I hear he's a real slave-driver... <G>
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>
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> -- Joel.
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>
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Hi Joel!!!
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Yeah, if he gives me a hard time or makes me call him MISTER Kreider, I'll
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tell Debi on him <VBG>!!!
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Chris
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:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
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Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
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******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >******************
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End of Thread.
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92862 22-JUN 20:08 General Information
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OS-9000 help
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From: JOHNREED To: ALL
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OK, OS-9000 users. New Guy here. A few questions.
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OS-9000 us up and running on my "486DX4/100", and I am slowly getting
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it to obey. I have some OS-9 experience, COCO I,II,III and
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OS-9/68000 on my MM/1a, so I am not completely lost, but there
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are a couple little things I still can't get to work.
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1. Comm ports. I can use T1 and T2. Even had STERM talking
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to CIS when I had the (internal) modem on T2 (COM2). Then I moved the
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modem to T4 (COM4). T2 is now a simple serial port. T2 still
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works, I can plug it into an external modem or null-modem to the
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MM/1, but I cannot get OS-9000 to talk to T4. Messydos & Windoze
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and even OS/2 can find that modem, but OS-9000 cannot. COM2 and
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COM4 are BOTH using IRQ3, but I am not trying to use them at the
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same time.
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2. Printer. I am using LPT1. The address of the port seems right
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accord to the BIOS and the information with the OS-9000 system.
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It even makes the lights blink and puts the Deskjet through its
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INIT routine when I load and init p.lpt1. When I try to print
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something, the lights blink on the printer and the system hangs.
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LPT1 works fine with the other operating systems, of course.
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Current method of printing from OS-9000 is to pass it via null
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modem to the MM/1.
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3. Disk formats. No big deal here, but I sure can't get the MM/1
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and the OS-9000 system to agree on what a "universal disk" is. I
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CAN get them both to read and write on a High density messydos
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disk, so I use that for transfers.
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4. Graphics. Anything available to get OS-9000 to speak to the
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Trident 94xx VGA card in this beast? I need a CGFX_VGA.L lib
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(grin).
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Suggestions welcome.
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John Wainwright (johnreed@delphi.com 72517.676@compuserve.com)
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92886 25-JUN 05:04 General Information
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RE: OS-9000 help (Re: Msg 92862)
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From: EDELMAR To: JOHNREED
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John,
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Congratulations on getting OS9000 up and running. Which version are you
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running? Using the release sold at the CocoFest in Chicago a few years ago
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*may* account for some of your problems. As I recollect, there were many
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bugs in it. The latest version is 1.3. - much smoother. I think its worth
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spending $200 per year for the support contract. In addition to hotline
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support, you should be able to get the latest version of OS9000 as part of
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the package. The people at MW say version 2.0 should be released in the
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next couple of months.
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> 1. Comm ports. I can use T1 and T2. Even had STERM talking to CIS when I
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> had the (internal) modem on T2 (COM2). Then I moved the modem to T4
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> (COM4). T2 is now a simple serial port. T2 still works, I can plug it
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> into an external modem or null-modem to the MM/1, but I cannot get OS-9000
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> to talk to T4. Messydos & Windoze and even OS/2 can find that modem, but
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> OS-9000 cannot. COM2 and COM4 are BOTH using IRQ3, but I am not trying to
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> use them at the same time.
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If MSDOS, etc. can find and speak to the modem correctly, its safe to say you
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have the card configured correctly. Check the data for the descriptor to
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be sure it matches your modem configuration. This information is stored
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in '/dd/PORTS/PCAT/systype.h'. Use '/dd/PORTS/PCAT/mk.scfdesc' to make a
|
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new descriptor. BTW, I use an internal modem on t3 - no problems.
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> 2. Printer. I am using LPT1. The address of the port seems right
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> accord to the BIOS and the information with the OS-9000 system.
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> It even makes the lights blink and puts the Deskjet through its
|
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> INIT routine when I load and init p.lpt1. When I try to print
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> something, the lights blink on the printer and the system hangs.
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> LPT1 works fine with the other operating systems, of course.
|
|
> Current method of printing from OS-9000 is to pass it via null
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> modem to the MM/1.
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Don't have any suggestions for this one. I've had no problems. Currently,
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I'm using either an old OKI 192 or a HP 4+. Both work fine. You might
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try calling MW's hotline.
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> 3. Disk formats. No big deal here, but I sure can't get the MM/1
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> and the OS-9000 system to agree on what a "universal disk" is. I
|
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> CAN get them both to read and write on a High density messydos
|
|
> disk, so I use that for transfers.
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OS-9/68000 and OS9000 'universal formats' are not the same. If I remember
|
|
correctly, the main difference is where the FAT is placed. Using 'os9copy'
|
|
or 'os9dsave' located in the '/dd/CMDS/UNSUPPORTED' directory, you should
|
|
be able to read OS-9/68000 universal format disks. Otherwise, you're doing
|
|
what most of us are doing - transferring via MSDOS disks or via the serial
|
|
port.
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|
|
> 4. Graphics. Anything available to get OS-9000 to speak to the
|
|
> Trident 94xx VGA card in this beast? I need a CGFX_VGA.L lib
|
|
> (grin).
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|
|
|
Well, I have G-WINDOWS for OS9000. Have 2 drivers that should work with your
|
|
card'. These are generic drivers giving a resolution of 640x480x16. I have
|
|
additional drivers for specific cards (the Trident isn't included) providing
|
|
resolutions up to 1200x1024x256. With the optional Developer's Pak, you
|
|
have what you need to write software for gfx using G-WINDOWS. Alternatively,
|
|
you can purchase RAVE. I don't think there is a driver for the Trident cards,
|
|
but a skeleton driver is included you can fill in to make your own driver.
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Ed
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End of Thread.
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|
92870 22-JUN 20:44 General Information
|
|
Special Announcement:Late Night addition
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: ALL
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|
|
|
|
|
Well, yes there is another change in the schedule, but I think
|
|
ya'll will like this. July 31st was originally scheduled as an
|
|
_Open Forum_ but I just got email recently confirming a
|
|
conference I've been trying to get for some time.
|
|
|
|
Monday July 31, 1995 at 10:00 pm Est D.A.V.I.D W/ David
|
|
Kimble
|
|
|
|
D.A.V.I.D, Microware's latest OS-9 based project which has been
|
|
getting a lot of press as of late, is the software environment
|
|
produced for the television decoders, otherwise known as set-top
|
|
boxes. D.A.V.I.D will be at the the heart of interactive
|
|
television technology that will be at our fingertips in the not so
|
|
distant futuure. David Kimble is an employee of Microware who is
|
|
very active with the DAVID Project. He will be on hand to answer
|
|
any questions about this product, which will be usefull for a WIDE
|
|
range of applications, right through the TV set.
|
|
|
|
My knowledge about D.A.V.I.D is limited which is why I'm glad
|
|
David Kimble(appropriately named :-) ) was kind enough to guest
|
|
host this conference. I can tell you there has been a good amount
|
|
of attention paid to it by the press as companies jump on the
|
|
Microware bandwagon in it's support.
|
|
|
|
There are others here who can do a better job of explaining it,
|
|
but on April 31st have your questions ready for David Kimble as he
|
|
gives us a little insight on what has to be the brightest spot in
|
|
the future of OS-9. Can any of you think of a good summary of
|
|
D.A.V.I.D to introduce it to users here in forum?
|
|
|
|
See Ya
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
92871 22-JUN 20:45 General Information
|
|
New Late Night Schedule
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
OS-9 Late Night
|
|
Conference Schedual
|
|
For February AND March
|
|
Date Time(EST) Topic
|
|
|
|
|
|
June 5, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
|
|
|
|
June 12, 1995 10:00 PM Let the Games Begin!
|
|
|
|
What are your favorite OS-9 and Coco based games? There
|
|
have been many to come along over the years, not even
|
|
including what is available for CD-I! What new games would
|
|
be nice to see? Gaming enthusiasts will want to be onhand
|
|
for this :-)
|
|
|
|
June 19, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
|
|
|
|
June 26, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
|
|
|
|
July 3, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
|
|
|
|
July 10, 1995 10:00 PM Beginners Night!
|
|
|
|
How do I set up OS-9 correctly? What modules should I
|
|
patch/leave alone? What apps should I buy, where can I get
|
|
them? Why do I keep getting this (#'%("!(%&! error 216
|
|
message!? Find out all this and more on Beginners' night!
|
|
|
|
July 17, 1995 10:00 PM Open Forum
|
|
|
|
July 24, 1995 10:00 PM OS-9 User's Group
|
|
Discussion
|
|
|
|
Mike Rowen, the Vice-President of the OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
representing the Level's I and II users of OS-9, will be on
|
|
hand. He is going to cover ideas for upcoming projects to
|
|
maintain activity for those using OS-9 on a 6809 or
|
|
compatible based machine(Coco 3,Dragon, etc..). If you are a
|
|
Level I or II user you will want to attend and give Mike any
|
|
feedback you may have, or drop him a line and let him know
|
|
if you are available to to get involved in any future
|
|
projects.
|
|
|
|
July 31, 1995 10:00 PM D.A.V.I.D Disucussion w/
|
|
Microware's David Kimble
|
|
|
|
The media is talking about it, and on July 31st, we will
|
|
be talking about it also. David Kimble, part of the
|
|
Microware's D.A.V.I.D team will be on hand to discuss
|
|
technology's latest interactive,multimedia,information
|
|
device that will be in our homes and on top of our
|
|
television sets in the not to distant future. Don't miss it!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
See Ya
|
|
|
|
Chris Perrault
|
|
OS-9 Users' Group
|
|
Sourcebook Coordinator
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92873 22-JUN 22:40 General Information
|
|
Conect
|
|
From: REVWCP To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Dear Friends:
|
|
|
|
I am posting this message for those who have been asking about
|
|
Rick Ulland and Conect. He has not been on Delphi or on line
|
|
for awhile and I thought that I would take the opportunity to
|
|
offer an explanation. Due to a series of events beyond his
|
|
control, Rick had to move a few months back. He moved into a
|
|
nice old duplex on the west side of Milwaukee.
|
|
|
|
Now comes the problems. Rick had to temporarily suspend his
|
|
Delphi account. No problem, since I was letting him use mine
|
|
in the interim.
|
|
|
|
Second problem, the telephone lines to his flat were in ghastly
|
|
condition, hanging on by a thread to say the least. They
|
|
crashed. A major rewiring job is needed and the phone company
|
|
is still arguing over who should pay what. Having faced a bill
|
|
of over $300.00 to get phone service for Saint Joseph's several
|
|
years ago, I know how hard it is to get the money together.
|
|
|
|
For the time being, please send any messages that you have for
|
|
Rick to me and I will relay them. I see Rick every friday evening
|
|
and so I can probably get to him quicker than USMail. I want to
|
|
repeat that he is still in business. I am using one of his
|
|
FAST-232 paks, (and it is is fast).
|
|
|
|
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
|
+: With all best wishes, ::::: When all else fails :+
|
|
+: Brother Jeremy, CSJW ::::::::::: ask a Monk :::::+
|
|
+: OS9 Users Group Treasurer ::::::::::::::::::::::::+
|
|
+::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::+
|
|
+::: revwcp@delphi.com :::::::::: CIS - 76477,142 :::+
|
|
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92878 23-JUN 22:07 General Information
|
|
Dallas Semiconductor 1284 chip?
|
|
From: MARTYGOODMAN To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Does anyone here have a catalog that has info on Dallas Semiconductor
|
|
clock chips? I'd like data on a Dallas Semiconductor DS1284 chip.
|
|
This is a 28 pin chip that is hooked to a 32KHz watch crystal
|
|
(pins 2 and 3) and to a source of uninterruptable power on pin 28,
|
|
with all 8 data lines, ground, chip enable, and r/w wired in parallel
|
|
with a 32 pin static RAM chip in the same circuit.
|
|
|
|
I'd like tech specs on this chip, including both hardware and software
|
|
info on how to wire the thing in and how to acess it.
|
|
|
|
Thanks for any help you can give me.
|
|
|
|
---marty
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
92885 25-JUN 01:00 General Information
|
|
auto logon,terminal identifier
|
|
From: SMITHBA To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I am using SC2.3 autodialer to log on to delphi.
|
|
after tymnet answers i get connect 2400 then 18 astrics
|
|
I press o and it gives me the time and date.
|
|
autodialer answers the login prompt with delphi.
|
|
then answers user id and password
|
|
i CAN'T get it to do the o for the identifier
|
|
i tried using connect 2400 and the astrics for a
|
|
search string, but autodialer didn't see them
|
|
HELP
|
|
BRIAN SMITH
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92887 25-JUN 10:59 General Information
|
|
RE: auto logon,terminal identifier (Re: Msg 92885)
|
|
From: RANDYKWILSON To: SMITHBA
|
|
|
|
Brian,
|
|
|
|
Try:
|
|
CNS=\*\*\*o
|
|
SS1=login
|
|
RS1=delphi\M
|
|
etc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Randy
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92929 1-JUL 13:17 General Information
|
|
RE: auto logon,terminal identifier (Re: Msg 92887)
|
|
From: SMITHBA To: RANDYKWILSON (NR)
|
|
|
|
Randy,
|
|
|
|
Thanks for the info. If I would RTFM like my teacher says,
|
|
then I would have known that.
|
|
I had to use CNS=\*\*\*\*\*\*o
|
|
3 pauses wasen't enough, but 6 worked just fine.
|
|
Later, BRIAN
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
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|
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|
|
92895 25-JUN 14:15 General Information
|
|
Int
|
|
From: CLTUCKER To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I would li
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|
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|
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|
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|
|
92911 26-JUN 19:56 General Information
|
|
RE: Int (Re: Msg 92895)
|
|
From: THETAURUS To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
>>I would li<<
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|
|
|
C'mon, spit it out...<Grin>
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|
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|
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|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
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|
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|
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|
|
92900 25-JUN 21:21 New Uploads
|
|
upload
|
|
From: FHOGG To: MISAL (NR)
|
|
|
|
Hi,
|
|
I kept getting dropped while trying to upload a new demo version of CDL Basic.
|
|
I got the first of 3 files uploaded when the problem happened. I'll try again
|
|
tomorrow.
|
|
|
|
Thanks
|
|
|
|
Frank
|
|
|
|
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|
|
92901 25-JUN 22:54 OSK Applications
|
|
MM/1 System For Sale
|
|
From: ERNIEWITHERS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
|
|
For Sale: Complete MM/1 System, S/N 120848 with IMS manuals
|
|
Includes: IMS Slimline case & power supply
|
|
I/O board
|
|
OS-9/68000 v2.4 with Microware manuals
|
|
3 megabytes RAM
|
|
4 serial ports (/t0, /t1, /t2, & /t3)
|
|
2 parallel ports (/p & /p1)
|
|
2 1.4MB floppy drives
|
|
105 MB Quantum hard drive
|
|
101 key XT/AT switchable keyboard
|
|
Logitech 3 button Series 9 serial mouse
|
|
Magnavox 8CM515 color monitor
|
|
MM/1 Technical Manual
|
|
|
|
Software: FHL's FBU & FRS backup/restore software
|
|
(Includes original FHL's DynaStar & DynaForm for 68000
|
|
disk & manual) BGFX
|
|
Fontasee font editor
|
|
WriteRight word processor
|
|
Speedisk disk defragmenter
|
|
Ved, Vprint, & Vmail
|
|
EthaGUI
|
|
Desktop
|
|
TasCOM
|
|
ColorSystems Game Pack
|
|
Lots of public domain software
|
|
|
|
Asking $700.00 for the complete system. I will bring this system to the
|
|
Atlanta 'Fest if anyone is seriously interested.
|
|
|
|
If interested, leave E-Mail.
|
|
|
|
Ernest Withers CIS: 71545,1117 Delphi: ERNIEWITHERS
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
92902 25-JUN 23:09 General Information
|
|
MM/1 System For Sale
|
|
From: ERNIEWITHERS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
|
|
For Sale: Complete MM/1 System, S/N 120848 with IMS manuals
|
|
Includes: IMS Slimline case & power supply
|
|
I/O board
|
|
OS-9/68000 v2.4 with Microware manuals
|
|
3 megabytes RAM
|
|
4 serial ports (/t0, /t1, /t2, & /t3)
|
|
2 parallel ports (/p & /p1)
|
|
2 1.4MB floppy drives
|
|
105 MB Quantum hard drive
|
|
101 key XT/AT switchable keyboard
|
|
Logitech 3 button Series 9 serial mouse
|
|
Magnavox 8CM515 color monitor
|
|
MM/1 Technical Manual
|
|
|
|
Software: FHL's FBU & FRS backup/restore software
|
|
(Includes original FHL's DynaStar & DynaForm for 68000
|
|
disk & manual) BGFX
|
|
Fontasee font editor
|
|
WriteRight word processor
|
|
Speedisk disk defragmenter
|
|
Ved, Vprint, & Vmail
|
|
EthaGUI
|
|
Desktop
|
|
TasCOM
|
|
ColorSystems Game Pack
|
|
Lots of public domain software
|
|
|
|
Asking $700.00 for the complete system. I will bring this system to the
|
|
Atlanta 'Fest if anyone is seriously interested.
|
|
|
|
If interested, leave E-Mail.
|
|
|
|
Ernest Withers CIS: 71545,1117 Delphi: ERNIEWITHERS
|
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|
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|
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92903 26-JUN 10:33 General Information
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NEW CONFERENCE
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From: MROWEN01 To: ALL
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ANNOUNCEMENT:
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I am pleased to announce the formation of the OS-9 IRC conference. Please
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join us if you are free on Sunday, 2 Jul 95 at 10PM ET. The topic of our
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first meeting will be the conference itself and what future direction it
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should take. This forum is open to all flavors of OS-9, so bring your
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knowledge, your questions, and your opinions. I'm committed to molding
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this conference to meet the needs of it's members.
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Type /join #os9 to access the conference on the irc.
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If you have more questions, email me at the address below.
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Mike Rowen
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VP OS-9/6809
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OS-9 Users Group
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mrowen01@delphi.com
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92914 26-JUN 21:44 OSK Applications
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BMP files
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From: MRGOOD To: ALL
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Is there a BMP file viewer (or format converter) for OSK and/or the MM1?
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Hugo
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92916 26-JUN 23:40 OSK Applications
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RE: BMP files (Re: Msg 92914)
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From: MITHELEN To: MRGOOD
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Yes... Joel Hegberg is working on one, and infact, just sent out a BETA
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version on the mushroom list today. You might ask him for a copy... I
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haven't tried it yet myself. Got to get it transfered to my MM/1 first.
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--
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Paul
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92917 26-JUN 23:41 OSK Applications
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RE: BMP files (Re: Msg 92914)
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From: JOELHEGBERG To: MRGOOD
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> Is there a BMP file viewer (or format converter) for OSK and/or the MM1?
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Hugo,
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Actually, funny you should ask... I just finished writing one a few
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days ago and it's in beta testing. I'll email you the beta version.
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What's even more strange is Ken Scales thought how nice it would be to
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have a BMP viewer the very morning before I emailed the beta version
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off to him and a few other people! Psychic link! :)
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-- Joel.
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92920 27-JUN 22:47 OSK Applications
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RE: BMP files (Re: Msg 92917)
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From: MRGOOD To: JOELHEGBERG
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Thanks Joel! With all this Windows stuff taking over the world, there are
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lots of BMP files out there. I'll try to give it a workout.
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Hugo
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92926 30-JUN 22:50 OSK Applications
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RE: BMP files (Re: Msg 92917)
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From: TEDJAEGER To: JOELHEGBERG
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Hi Joel,
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Would you email me a BETA copy of that BMP viewer as well!
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Thanks
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Bests
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---TedJaeger
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92927 1-JUL 02:41 OSK Applications
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RE: BMP files (Re: Msg 92926)
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From: JOELHEGBERG To: TEDJAEGER
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Sure thing, Ted.
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-- Joel.
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92928 1-JUL 11:26 OSK Applications
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RE: BMP files (Re: Msg 92927)
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From: VAXELF To: JOELHEGBERG
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joel,
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I have archived two BMP's from my Monty Python collection that will now
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work with the bmpshow program. I then uuecoded them and sent them to you
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via email. Hope they help. btw they do load and display on my son's MSDOS
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system.
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John D.
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92930 1-JUL 13:23 OSK Applications
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RE: BMP files (Re: Msg 92914)
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From: NIMITZ To: MRGOOD
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A BMP file viewer has just been released in beta to developers. I expect
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more development on this front in the next few months....
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David
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End of Thread.
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92915 26-JUN 22:54 General Information
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RE: Help! My computer hates me! <Grin> (Re: Msg 29198)
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From: CCMAN To: EDDIEKUNS (NR)
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Hi. My Magnavox 8cm515 monitor went on the blink. I'm using a TV which doesn't
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work very well. The monitor just quit working while it was on one night. It
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makes a noise but the power light doesn't come on. Does anyone have any ideas
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as to what is wrong wit
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h it? Is there any other monitors that I could use with a CoCo III? Any help
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would be appreciated. :) Ralph Fehringer
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92919 27-JUN 22:13 General Information
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RE: Your club Info Request...
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From: MRUPGRADE To: MICHAELJN
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RE: Information on the UPGRADE to you and a number
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who have asked about our Magazine "The UPGRADE".
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After contributing a broad base support thoughout the Color
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Computer Community, for a number of years now,,, I'm always a bit
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surprise the person hasn't heard of us.
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And they,,, are surprised to find our subscription is such a
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bargin. And naturally want more information.
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Well perhaps I should mention our Group a little more often.
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So here goes,,,
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We are "Mid Iowa & Country CoCo". I think some see the Mid Iowa
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and assume we're a little group some where in Iowa. Well, we used
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to be that. We kept the "Mid Iowa" after expanding to "& Country",
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because we wanted to keep the small group atmosphere. And we have
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managed to do that despite expanding to a membership in over 40
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states, plus Canada and on to Austrailia, Argentina & England. Now
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yur gonna why 'ud all these guys (and several gals) want to join our
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group? I mean it's a (grin) bit of hike getting to a meet right?
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Not really. "The meet" comes to your frount door. Monthly in
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the winter months,, bi-monthly during the summer. That "The
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UPGRADE Disk Magazine produced by "Mid Iowa & Country CoCo", will
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come filled (the last four issues were double sided) with articles
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from our members all over the US and Canada. I have to mention
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Canada, because that's where our lead OS-9 writer lives. Chris
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Dekker of C DEKKER Software, graces our magazine with his "OS-9 in
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??? Many Easy Steps", series. Plus other Chris Dekker articles
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"exclusive to our magazine".
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Which brings up another subject... Recently an OSKer was making
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the usual remark,, "of course your RSDOS, and my interest is
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strictly in O9". I say usual, because there are a few OS-9 vendors
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who cannot overcome their habit of stereo-typing. Or they think I'm
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as narrow minded as they? I donno,, I've given up. But it boils
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down to this; I personally don't use OS-9. Consequently you won't
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see me in a how to get this or that module, conversation on the
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net. What the heck I don't know how to fix a disk controller
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either,,, That's why I asked Marty Goodman to write that article
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and others.
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If your using RSDOS, we have articles on it. If you want hardware
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information, we have articles on that. If you want CoCo OS-9
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support,, The UPGRADE Disk Magazine, I believe offers the "BEST OS-9
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support for the CoCo in the Color Community today"!! Earlier
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articles include James Jones & Boisey, as well we offer OS-9 by a
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variety of authors. But we don't stop there. We have along with
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our MI&CC library (available to England, Australia, or anywhere in
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between):
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A Well organized CoCo 3, Applications, HAM, Christin Software, AND
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OS-9 Disk library. No hodge podging,, each diskette catagorized.
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Rather then 1000 + disks, again you're not getting a hodgepodge of
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so-so software. We select only the best. (please don't ask me to
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list 'em here. They are on each UPGRADE disk)
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BUT WE DON'T STOP THERE! Where can you find the really hard to
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find hardware? Seen any DS-69's, Rathscans, or MAXSOUND digitizers
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here lately? How about a Burk'n Burke HD set up ready to go? A
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Disto MEG RAM drive? Eleminator, Disto controller, 3-in-1
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boards? You name it. Most of this was in last months "For Sale"
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column along with the usual CC3's drives and other CoCo equipment.
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All of it has been there, and most likely will be back. Or list
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your stuff for sale. No fee it's just a part of being a
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member/subscriber.
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You get the disk, answer a couple of system config inputs,, and on
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it opens with a new graphic each month. Followed by a newsmagazine
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contents style, graphic page listing articles. You can read 'em to
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screen or dump to printer as you wish. Other graphics are included
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with some articles. Ya just can't (smile) get animation to work
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with a hard copy.
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Now for the hard part: The price? I would think sixty bucks a
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year (the price of one RSODS only disk) would be fair. But the
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thing is we are a "not for profit group". So how about half that?
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That would be a good deal but it doesn't even cost that much. Can
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you believe it??
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Just put $16.00 ($21 Canada/ $31 forign air)
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in the mail and you'll have a full years membership/subscription.
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Appx 10 disks (15 if you count sides full) per year will come to
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your door. Chalked full of the information and services you want
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for your CoCo.
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Terry Simons Treas/ Editor, The UPGRADE Disk Magazine
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1238 48th, Des Moines, Iowa 50311
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Do it today,, and you can't forget tomorrow.
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92924 30-JUN 00:28 General Information
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Greetings from Allen
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From: JOELHEGBERG To: ALL
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From Allen Huffman:
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Greetings all. This is Allen at Joel's machine just taking this
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opportunity to post a quick hello to everyone on Delphi. I hope to be
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joining you guys sometime in the near future (now that I can Telnet
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there from the service I subscribe to and save on long distance
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charges). Anyway, hello from Sub-Etha Software!
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Allen C. Huffman
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coco-sysop@genie
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.geis.com
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92925 30-JUN 12:21 General Information
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IRC CONFERENCE REMINDER
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From: MROWEN01 To: ALL
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REMINDER:
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I just want to remind everyone that the 1st OS-9 IRC conference will be
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Sunday 2 Jul 95 at 10:00PM ET. /join #os9 once you're on the IRC. Hope
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to see you there!
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Mike Rowen
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VP OS-9/6809
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OS-9 Users Group
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mrowen01@delphi.com
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92931 2-JUL 00:09 OSK Applications
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OSK C Bug
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From: WRHAMBLEN To: ALL
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The Microware C compiler release 3.2 running under OS-9/68000 release 2.4
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apparently has a problem with the ? operator and string constants. A
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line of code such as:
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s = flag ? "string1" : "string2"
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sometimes generates code with the wrong value for the pointer to a
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string constant. This caused me a bit of head-scratching. The work
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around is to avoid this construct or to use GCC.
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Bud
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