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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 36 04 Sep 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Robot with Attitude! ..................................... 1
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2. COLUMNS .................................................. 5
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Ol'WDB: Words of Love .................................... 5
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3. NET HUMOR ................................................ 7
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Democratic Demographics .................................. 7
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4. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 9
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Cow-asaki ................................................ 9
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5. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 10
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 10
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6. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 14
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Masthead ................................................. 14
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 1 4 Sep 2000
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EDITORIAL
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Robot with Attitude!
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Doug Myers
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In the novella, Bicentennial Man (recently rendered as a Robin
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Williams movie), science fiction Master Robert Heinlan depicted the
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efforts of a robot to achieve humanity. In the latter half of
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August, Thom LaCosta announced his own efforts to infuse the ELIST
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ROBOT with the human feature of judgement:
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----- Announcement in the Echo MODERATOR by Thom Lacosta -----
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Effective immediately MOD UPD messages from third parties will NOT
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be processed unless the echolist keeper has personal knowledge
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and/or netmail/email from moderators that:
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A. They have authorized a third party to update their listing
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B. They have the password to the echo in question.
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This policy has been instituted to insure the accuracy of the
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echolist and to preserve the rights of the listed moderator.
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Moderators using the services of third parties are strongly urged to
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communicate with the echolist keeper that the conditions above apply
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to their echoes.
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For purposes of accuracy, all communications should specifically
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list the echoes that are updated by a third party.
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-----
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In a past guest editorial in FIDONEWS, I defended the right of the
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elist keeper to correct individual cases of chicanery with echo
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listings... but I couldn't help but wonder if he'd bit off more than
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he could chew with this policy.
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I had two misgivings about this policy:
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1. The policy assumes wrongdoing on the part of a third party
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lister unless proven otherwise. This is a far different strategy
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than the past policy of intervening when wrongdoing was actually
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detected.
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2. Though the stated purpose of the policy was to ensure accuracy
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and protect the rights of moderators, it actually seemed like a
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strategy to discourage or eliminate third party listers. In fact,
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it brought to mind numerous arguments Thom had had with Bobby
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Queen, Fidonet's premier echo lister. Could there be something
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personal in all this?
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The latter suspicion was confirmed in Thom's echomail response to
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Ross Cassell...
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 2 4 Sep 2000
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----- Echomail from area MODERATOR -----
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Yes Sir! As a matter of fact, a recent series of events was
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triggered by a change in moderators. I noticed that a third party
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had been updating the listing for several months, using the original
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moderator's name. The updater then changed the moderator.
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I asked both the original moderator and the updater to confirm that
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the original moderator had transfered the echo.
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Amazingly, the original moderator said he hadn't, and the updater
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said that since the echo was his, he could name anyone as moderator.
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It's apparent that while a third-party may have a password, that
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does NOT give that person the right or standing to make substantial
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changes to the content of an echo tag listing.
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From my viewpoint, it may represent fraud, gross mis-undrstanding of
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the echolist, general confusion about rules, but none-the-less, it's
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something that can not be tolerated.
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-----
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Though the above rationale is stated in a generalized manner,
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subsequent echomail brought out that Bobby Queen was indeed the
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target of Thom LaCosta's new policy:
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----- Echomail from Bobby Queen to Thom LaCosta, MODERATOR -----
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TL> I am trying to recontruct what went on with the Hockey Echo.
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TL> My files indicate the following:
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TL> The echo listing was deleted on 4/1/2000 due to a lack of an
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TL> update.
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Yep
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TL> On May 7, 1999 you "rescued" the echo, showing Daryl Turner,
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TL> the previously listed moderator as moderator.
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True
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TL> On June 5 and July 10, 2000 you updated the echolisting, still
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TL> showing Daryl Turner as moderator.
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All the while trying to contact Daryl via CRASHED NetMail to get the
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echo turned back over to him.
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TL> On August 6, 2000 you updated the echo showing Michael Grant
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TL> as moderator.
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True
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TL> Can you supply me with copies of any communmications from Daryl
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TL> Turner showing that he either gave you control of the echo, or
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TL> confirmation that he had turned the echo over to Michael Grant?
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 3 4 Sep 2000
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If I had any responses from Daryl either to my NetMails or via email
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he could have kept the echo himself. The problem was I told him via
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NetMail that someone else had asked to moderate the echo and for 3
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months I got no response to any of my messages and Michael CRASHED
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his system also asking him. So we know his system was accepting the
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NetMail messages but he was not responding in any way. So I picked
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a new moderator for an echo I had rescued.
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TL> If that information is not available, do you have anything that
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TL> would substantiate that you had the authority to remove Mr. Turner
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TL> as the listed moderator and substitute Mr. Grant in his place?
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The authority was that in letting the echo slip Daryl gave up his
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right to the echo as you yourself has said in various echos
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including MODERATOR. I kept him listed until after 3 months I could
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not contact him and the echo was in need of a moderator and was on
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the low traffic report and in danger of being totally deleted from
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the Z1B Backbone. Michael had contacted me and I had given Daryl
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over a month to contact me after I sent him CRASHED NetMail letting
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him know that Michael wanted to take over the echo.
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Point is the echo was MINE and I chose a new moderator. PERIOD!
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-----
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I don't suppose that I owe Thom LaCosta either editorial support or
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editorial opposition. In the past, I was openly supportive of his
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role in thwarting Zorch Frezberg's attempt to retain the echo
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FN_SYSOP under the guise of "echo trustee." I was also openly
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critical of Tom Knowles "echo rescuing" attempts on the suspicion
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that he and Thom LaCosta were actually the same person. I suppose,
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in the interest of balance, I should be wishy washy on this
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particular issue.
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In this spirit of no firm convictions, I've similarly never formed
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an image of Bobby Queen. He could be a bottom feeding echo
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scavenger, as Thom LaCosta and others have portrayed him in the
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past... or he could be the heroic echo rescuer which he claims to
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be. The fact is that Bobby mainly traffics in echoes which would
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have been lost to Fidonet anyway. Certainly, I wouldn't care to
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expend the effort he does in determining the echoes which are about
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to expire, and then listing them himself. Whether he restores them
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to the original moderator, claims them for himself, or acts as an
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echoGod in determining a new moderator seems only of academic
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interest.
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Despite my lack of firmness above, however, I believe the new
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echolist policy is more an argument between Bobby Queen and Thom
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LaCosta than a matter of principle. At the very least, it seems the
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wrong example on which to base policy. It seems that Bobby is being
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chastised more on a technicality than on any actual wrongdoing.
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It seems that Bobby had the authority to list Daryl Turner as
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moderator of the HOCKEY echo when Daryl left it expire through his
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own inaction, but doesn't have the authority to list Michael Grant
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as moderator as Daryl continues his inaction. The technicality is
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 4 4 Sep 2000
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that Bobby didn't list himself as moderator when he listed the
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expired echo, and thus placed himself in the dreaded category of
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"third party lister" when he attempted to nominate an active
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moderator.
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I don't know Daryl and I don't read the HOCKEY echo... but the
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echomail quoted seems to indicate that Daryl couldn't be bothered
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with the echo for six months during which the echo expired, and
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three months thereafter. I'm not sure that the "accuracy" of the
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elist is being preserved by perpetuating the "rights" of a moderator
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who, in fact, didn't moderate for nine months. I'm not sure the
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"rights" are worth preserving.
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Above all, I'm not sure I want a policy which establishes a "big
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brother" to monitor all elist submissions for such technical
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violations. This is nothing personal against Thom LaCosta... I
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suppose he'd make as good a "big brother" as anyone else... but "big
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brothers" have been known to slow the growth of the little guys.
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If there's been an actual violation of the rights of Daryl Turner
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which isn't evidenced by the echomail so far, then let Thom do what
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he sees as right to correct the problem. But the self-promotion to
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"big brother" seems like overkill here.
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 5 4 Sep 2000
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COLUMNS
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Ol'WDB's Column
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wdbonner@pacbell.net
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My good friend's daughter writes these words of love to her Dad,
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which with pride, he shares with all of us:
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Elusive As The Wind
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by Martha Crowninshield O'Brien
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Love is a powerful thing.
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Elusive as the wind, as magical as
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Christmas Eve and songs that make you cry...
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Its touch is such that nothing
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can begin to describe or do justice to it.
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Love leaves us seeking more, like
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crisp autumn leaves afire with color,
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and that one last glimpse of setting summer sun...
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When it's lost or wounded, as a bird
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struck from the sky in midflight,
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it's as though the rain will never end,
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and the world seems dark and lonely;
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door braced shut against wicked
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winter wind, our hearts as icy as
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late February snow...
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We are sad waiting for the sun, and
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too often believe we will never love again...
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Always though, against all odds,
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there remains a tiny spark, not unlike
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a firefly fluttering lazily through a
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steamy August evening, ready to ignite
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perhaps, a future flame, a lasting love...
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Thank you for the time spent sharing
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your heart and opening mine to the
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sweet possibility that I might love again...
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Sad to leave a special future to
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begin a distant past, but I have loved
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you as best I could, as you did me,
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and I wish you Love, wonder and
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starlight, always....
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Abstract Thinking
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by
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Martha Jean Crowninshield
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Windswept sand hills looking up
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to sun-kissed skies of powder blue,
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shifting calmly day to day
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with constant footprints trudging through.
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As waves, in sequence, pound the shore
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 6 4 Sep 2000
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and distant seagulls cry above,
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shy wind whirls tumble through the haze,
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a pleasant, tickling type of shove.
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Distinction ends though at the sea,
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and as if caught within some bond,
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I notice with a startling thought
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that it goes on and on.....and on!
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Copyright 1999 Martha Crowninshield O'Brien
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Used by Permission, Ol'WDB
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 7 4 Sep 2000
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NET HUMOR
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Democratic Demographics
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Thanks to Roy Reed
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Virtually anyone can be a Democrat. Just simply quit thinking and
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vote that way. But if you want to be a GOOD Democrat, there are some
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prerequisites you must have first. Compare the below and see how you
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rate.
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1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal
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funding.
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2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th
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graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids
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about sex.
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3. You have to believe that guns, in the hands of law-abiding
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Americans, are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons
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technology, in the hands of Chinese communists.
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4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
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5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by
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cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more
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affected by yuppies driving SUVs.
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6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being
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homosexual is natural.
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7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on
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demand.
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8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and
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governments create prosperity.
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9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but
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loony activists from Seattle do.
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10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than
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actually doing something to earn it.
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11. You have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start
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wars.
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12. You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain
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parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it
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supports certain parts of the Constitution.
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13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too
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high.
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14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinmen are
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 8 4 Sep 2000
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more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General
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Robert E. Lee or Thomas Edison.
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15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but
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racial quotas and set-asides aren't.
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16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady.
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17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked
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anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been
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in charge.
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18. You have to believe Republicans telling the truth belong in
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jail, but a liar and sex offender belongs in the White House.
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19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag,
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transvestites and bestiality should be constitutionally protected
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and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
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20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic party funding by the
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Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States.
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 9 4 Sep 2000
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COMIX IN ASCII
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COW-ASAKI
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
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?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
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latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
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time between when the message is received, and when it is
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sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
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defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
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immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
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after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 12 4 Sep 2000
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
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| | |latency|
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-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
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10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
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12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
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103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
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106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
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107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
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244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
|
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
|
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342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
|
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395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
|
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
|
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
|
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2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
|
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
|
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2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
|
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
|
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
|
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
|
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3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
|
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--------------------------------------------------------------
|
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Zone 2 |
|
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
|
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
|
||
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
|
||
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
|
||
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
|
||
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
|
||
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
|
||
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
|
||
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 13 4 Sep 2000
|
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|
||
|
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
|
||
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
|
||
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
|
||
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
|
||
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
|
||
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
|
||
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
|
||
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
|
||
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
|
||
--------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
Zone 3
|
||
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
|
||
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
|
||
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
|
||
|
||
--------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
Zone 4
|
||
905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
|
||
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
|
||
|
||
--
|
||
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
|
||
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
|
||
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
|
||
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
|
||
* NFS = Linux Networking
|
||
----------------------------------------------
|
||
Fidonet oriented news servers
|
||
|
||
news.osirusoft.com
|
||
news.tardis.net
|
||
|
||
Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
|
||
|
||
room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
|
||
irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)
|
||
|
||
----------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
|
||
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com. All email addresses
|
||
here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about
|
||
obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and
|
||
most especially, email addressed to blockme@relays.osirusoft.com
|
||
will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam
|
||
stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
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|
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|
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FIDONEWS 17-36 Page 14 4 Sep 2000
|
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|
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|
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|
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FIDONEWS INFO
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|
||
|
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Masthead
|
||
|
||
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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| |
|
||
| Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com |
|
||
| Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org |
|
||
| Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, jarhead@osirusoft.com |
|
||
| (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) |
|
||
| Columnist: Warren D. Bonner, 1:103/401, wdbonner@pacbell.net |
|
||
| (Warren uses the pen name "Ol'WDB") |
|
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| Humor: Roy Reed, rcreedv@juno.com |
|
||
| Features: Frank Vest, 1:124/6308.1 |
|
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| |
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|
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|
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|
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|
||
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|
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA
|
||
94141, and are used with permission.
|
||
|
||
Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet.
|
||
Fidonews is Copyright (C) 2000 by Douglas Myers, though authors
|
||
retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinion expressed by
|
||
the authors is strictly their own. Noncommercial duplication and
|
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distribution within Fidonet is encouraged. Authors are encouraged
|
||
to send their articles in ASCII text to Douglas Myers at one of his
|
||
addresses above.
|
||
|
||
The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file area
|
||
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|
||
sources are normally available through your Network Coordinator.
|
||
The current and past issues are also available from the following
|
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|
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| Freq FIDONEWS @ 1:270/720, 1:140/1, or 1:396/1 |
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| ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/ |
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||
| ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ |
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| http://www.fidonews.org |
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| email subscription: majordomo@fidonews.org |
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