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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 37 13 September 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | +27-41-581-5913 [5:5/23] |
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| (_| /_) | Editor: |
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| | | \ \\ | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 |
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| (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: FidoNews Editor 5:5/23 |
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| submissions=> editor@fidonews.org |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
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Stamps for your Email .................................... 2
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
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NAB & WWB Echo Diff ...................................... 4
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NAB & Z1B Echo Diff ...................................... 5
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug] ........... 7
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Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug] ....................... 9
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4. NOTICES .................................................. 12
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Future History ........................................... 12
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5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 13
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6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 16
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 1 13 Sep 1999
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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,
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This is my last day as your editor of FidoNews. As from next week's
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issue, Douglas Myers will be your new editor.
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I would like to thank all of you who so kindly supported me.
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Ofcourse, there's no thanks for those who always bigger and want
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nothing more than to be boss of our hobby FidoNet. This is a great
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pitty, that SysOp's cannot stand together to make FidoNet a better
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network to be in.
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Keep well and I'll be around to watch from the sideline. :-)
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Happy reading,
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 2 13 Sep 1999
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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Stamps for your Email
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Douglas Myers
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1:270/720
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DougM@paonline.com
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If you hold your ear very close to your POP3 server, you can hear
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the roar of an ocean of injustice. Is the government reading your
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email? Will the telephone company be able to charge you long
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distance surcharges for your data connections? Will your ISP be
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required to limit your selections on the web?
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This week's email sounded a clarion call alerting me the the latest
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attempt to trample my personal freedoms:
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----- excerpt from email -----
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Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be
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attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill
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602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on
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every email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at
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source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP.
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..
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The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the
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proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per
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year.
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..
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Since the average citizen received about 10 pieces of email per day
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in 1998, the cost to the typical individual would be an additional
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50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above and beyond
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their regular Internet costs.
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-------- end excerpt ---------
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To save space, I've not included the usual rhetoric about the
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efficiency of the post office and the federal government in general,
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nor the dire warnings about giving the government a foothold to
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strip us of a free internet. It is presumed that the reader is
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already familiar with the concept.
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The letter did go on to say that all major newspapers are ignoring
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the story, so I thought I'd address it in Fidonews :)
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To begin with, I'm not sure that there is a Bill 602P - sometimes
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these letters don't restrict themselves to the facts. But if there
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is a Bill 602P, it won't recover the USPS' lost revenues - if the
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post office is losing $0.33 per letter and only recovering $0.05 per
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letter, then it's only going to recover about $35 million of its
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lost $230 million. This is a figure almost beneath Uncle Sam's
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notice... unless he takes the following two steps to bolster revenue
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 3 13 Sep 1999
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significantly:
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1. Surcharge email received rather than email sent. This would
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have the double benefit encouraging spammers to work for free as
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agents of the United States Government as well as drawing
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significant revenue from folks with an email account who just aren't
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creative enough to write much.
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2. Consider newsgroups to be email. The ALT groups alone could
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wipe out the national debt! Of course, if the concept were extended
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to include echomail, then the Zone 1 Backbone would be scrambling to
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recover all those echoes they've dropped, as low volume echoes would
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suddenly be in vogue.
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In calculating lost revenues, the Post Office needs to look beyond
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email to other forms of communication. For example, Postal
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Inspectors could walk into the Churches and Synagogues and Temples
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of our nation and surcharge all those prayers to God. None of them
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bear a postage stamp, to the best of my knowledge. Better yet, they
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could surcharge prayers at home - three meals per day and bedtime
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prayers. Compliance with this latter is expected to be high...
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after all, would YOU be willing to tell the government that you
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don't say your prayers at beddy-bye?
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And the Postal Inspectors could march into the singles bars
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throughout the land on the alert for body language. After all, it
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all goes unstamped except for possibly an occasional woman who's
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been hit upon one too many times. Of course, Postal Inspectors are
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a dry lot and might miss some of the body language. Perhaps it's
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time for a new concept here: outcome-based surcharing. For
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example, a man or woman who draws a smile could be charged for one
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letter. A whistle would be worth three letters. If one actually
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scores, he or she could appeal for bulk rate.
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Pay attention to the roar of the ocean in your mailbox... you just
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never know what's going to wash ashore...
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 4 13 Sep 1999
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ARTICLES
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NAB & WWB Echo Diff
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by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
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lisa@psg.com
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Comparing the echo lists of the NAB (North American Backbone) and
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the WWB (World Wide Backbone) distribution systems:
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diff backbone.na (05-Sep-99) backbone.ww (05-Sep-99) [edited]
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Echos on the NAB but not on the WWB
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ADLIB Computer Soundcard Discussion Area
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AREXX Echo for discussion and assistance on Arexx.
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MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results
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MTG_TRADE Magic: The Gathering, Trading Echo
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NT4_UK Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation/Server
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POWER_BAS PowerBASIC Programmers Conference
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TABLATURE Tablature
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Z1C Zone 1 Coordinator Contact Conference
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Echos on the WWB but not on the NAB
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ASTROWAR_UK <Description Missing>
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BBBS.BZ Discussion of BBBS's script language, BZ.
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BBBS.CHAT General chat about BBBS.
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BBBS.SYSOP BBBS SysOp Conference
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BBBS.UTIL Announcements and discussion of BBBS-related
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utilities.
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BUGTRAQ Unix security
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CELLULAR_UK Cellular Phones discussions
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ECONOMICS_UK Economics Talk
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EUROCON EuroCon 1999 (European SysOp Convention)
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FIDOSOFT.HUSKY The Fidosoft Husky Project for Linux
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FTNHUB Custom Internet Service's FTNHUB Support Echo
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FTN_PROGS Discussion of anything about FTN Programs
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FTP_FIDO Using Internet FTP to receive FidoNet echomail
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and files
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MARKET <Description Missing>
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MCIBTYC My Computer is Better Than Your Computer
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MYTHOLOGY Mythology Conference.
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OBSOLETE Obsolete Computers
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OS2COMM OS/2 Comm
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PGMRS <Description missing>
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PLANET_CONNECT Planet Connect Discussions & Support
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RAILFANS Railfans, Train Watching, Prototype Railroads
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SOU_STAR Southern Star (1:396/1) Admin Area
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STRATEGY Strategy Computer Games
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WIN.SYSOP Windows-Based BBS Software Support
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WIN_95 UK Windows 95 Talk
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WWB_SYSOP World Wide Backbone Sysop Conference
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WWB_TECH World Wide Backbone Technical Conference
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 5 13 Sep 1999
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Z3_2000_EVENTS The New Millennium events all around the world
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ZCC-DISCUSSION ZCC Discussions
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ZCC-PUBLIC ZCC-messages from the ZCC-conference
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The NAB list, backbone.na (05-Sep-99) has 751 echos.
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The WWB list, backbone.ww (05-Sep-99) has 773 echos.
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NAB & Z1B Echo Diff
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by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
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lisa@psg.com
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Comparing the echo lists of the NAB (North American Backbone) and
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the Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone) distribution systems:
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diff backbone.na (05-Sep-99) backbone.z1b (05-Sep-99) [edited]
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Echos on the NAB but not on the Z1B
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60S_70S_PROGROCK 60's/70's Progressive Rock Music Echo
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AIDS-HIV AIDS & HIV
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ALASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALASKA
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AMIGA_FILEFIND Filefind Echo for AMIGA computers
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AMIGA_INT Amiga Worldwide
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AMY_COMMS Amiga Telecommunications Rounsrvlw
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ARIZONA GENERAL CHAT FOR ARIZONA
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ARKANSAS_ GENERAL CHAT FOR ARKANSAS
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ASL American Sign Language Echo
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ATHEISM Intra-atheist education and discussion echo.
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CALIFORNIA GENERAL CHAT FOR CALIFORNIA
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COLORADO GENERAL CHAT FOR COLORADO
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CONFED_HERITAGE Confederate Heritage
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CONNECTICUT GENERAL CHAT FOR CONNECTICUT
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DCTPROD The DCT Productions Support Echo
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DELAWARE GENERAL CHAT FOR DELAWARE
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DELPHI Borland Delphi Developers' Echo
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EC_SUPPORT Ezycom BBS Support for Sysop's
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EDGE_ONLINE End Times - Mystery Babylon and the Beast 666
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EQUUS HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO
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FEED_CUT Designed to inform re echo feed cuts
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FLORIDA GENERAL CHAT FOR FLORIDA
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GEORGIA GENERAL CHAT FOR GEORGIA
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HAM_REQ Amateur Radio File Announcements & Requests
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HARDWARE Computer Hardware & Peripheral
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HAWAII GENERAL CHAT FOR HAWAII
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I95 Cruising Interstate 95
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IDAHO GENERAL CHAT FOR IDAHO
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ILLINOIS GENERAL CHAT FOR ILLINOIS
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INDIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR INDIANA
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INJOY The InJoy Internet Dialer
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IOWA GENERAL CHAT FOR IOWA
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KANSAS GENERAL CHAT FOR KANSAS
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KENTUCKY GENERAL CHAT FOR KENTUCKY
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 6 13 Sep 1999
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LE/SECURITY Law Enforcement/Security Issues & Concerns
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LOUISIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR LOUISIANA
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MAINE GENERAL CHAT FOR MAINE
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MARYLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR MARYLAND
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MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL CHAT FOR MASSACHUSETTS
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MEXICAN_LINK Mexico's International Link (Multilingual)
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MINNESOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR MINNESOTA
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MISSISSIPPI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSISSIPPI
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MISSOURI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSOURI
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MLM Multi-Level Marketing conference
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MONTANA GENERAL CHAT FOR MONTANA
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MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results
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MST3K Mystery Science Theater 3000
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M_GRIPE Gripe: The Mother of All Echos
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NATURIST Naturist/nudist discussion
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NEBRASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEBRASKA
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NEVADA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEVADA
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NEW_HAMPSHIRE GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE
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NEW_JERSEY GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW JERSEY
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NEW_MEXICO GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW MEXICO
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NEW_YORK GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW YORK
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NORTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH DAKOTA
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NT4_UK Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation/Server
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OHIO GENERAL CHAT FOR OHIO
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OJ_SIMPSON O.J. Simpson discussion
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OREGON GENERAL CHAT FOR OREGON
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OS2GAMES Help for running games in IBM OS/2
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P5DRAFT Conference for Discussion of Policy 5 DRAFT
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PARROTS PARROTS CONFERENCE
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PAUL_REVERE The Paul Revere 2AM Grassroots Conference
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PCWRITE PCWrite and Multi-Platform Computing
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PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL CHAT FOR PENNSYLVANIA
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QMODEM_USER Qmodem Users Discussion Conference
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QM_ECHO QM EchoMail processor and related programs
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QUIKUTILS Official Matrix Technologies support echo
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RCM Radio Control Model II
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RHODE_ISLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR RHODE ISLAND
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RIBBS RiBBS (CoCo/OS9) Sysop Support
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SEMPOINT Echomail Conference for SEMPOINT users
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SET Setian Discussions (Formerly "Base of Set")
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SILENTTALK Echo for people who are deaf or hard of hearing
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SOUTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA
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SOUTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH DAKOTA
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SUPERBBS SuperBBS Support Echo
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S_KING Discussion of Stephen King and his works.
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TENNESSEE GENERAL CHAT FOR TENNESSEE
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THE_CURE_NETWORK Oregon State Political Discussions and News.
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TRANSCAN TransCanadian Soapbox echo
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TRIUS TRIUS, Inc. Product Support and Information
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UNUSUAL_PETS Unusual Pets Echo!
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UTAH GENERAL CHAT FOR UTAH
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VERMONT GENERAL CHAT FOR VERMONT
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VIN_MAISON The Wine Lovers Echo!
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VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR VIRGINIA
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WASHINGTON GENERAL CHAT FOR WASHINGTON
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WEST_VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR WEST VIRGINIA
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 7 13 Sep 1999
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WISCONSIN GENERAL CHAT FOR WISCONSIN
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WYOMING GENERAL CHAT FOR WYOMING
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Z1-ELECTION Alternate Z1C Election discussion area
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Echos on the Z1B but not on the NAB
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None
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The NAB list, backbone.na (05-Sep-99) has 751 echos.
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The Z1B list, backbone.z1b (05-Sep-99) has 658 echos.
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]
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by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
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lisa@psg.com
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Summary of NAB echo changes during Jul & Aug.
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Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
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diff backbone.na 04-Jul-99 backbone.na 05-Sep-99 [edited].
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Echotag name change
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> HOME_BEER_BREWING Beer Homebrewing [new echotag name]
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< ZYMURGY Beer Homebrewing [old echotag name]
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Echotag recycled for a new echo?
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> MILLENNIUM Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo! [new echo]
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< MILLENNIUM Millennium TV show discussions [old echo]
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Added to the NAB list of echos
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> 4MODSONLY For Moderator's ONLY Echo!
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> COMIC_RELIEF G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick
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> FIDOPOLS Fidonet Policy Discussion Forum
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> HARDWARE Computer Hardware & Peripheral
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> LONELY_HEARTS Lonely Hearts echo!
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> PIZZANUT PIZZA & BEER quest, etc!
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> SEMPOINT Echomail Conference for SEMPOINT users
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> THE_SIMPSONS The Simpsons Discussion Echo
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> TWIT Twit's Echo!
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> UNUSUAL_PETS Unusual Pets Echo!
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Removed from the NAB list of echos
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< ADAM Adam International Computer Conference
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< ALTMED Alternative Medicine
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< ANIMAL_RIGHTS Animal Rights Conference
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< ARCADE COIN-operated Arcade chat
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< A_CAD International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
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< BIKE-N-RIDER Motorcycle Riders, Bike Safety and Riding
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 8 13 Sep 1999
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< BIKENET Fidonet's BIKENET echo!
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< BLACK_POWDER <No title>
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< CALLSIGN Amateur Radio License Callsign Server Echo
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< CHANNELLING Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms
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< COLLEGE International COLLEGE echo
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< COLLEGE_SINGLES College Singles -- hey baby, what's yer sign?
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< CONCORD Concord BBS program by Pasi Talliniemi
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< CORELDRAW CorelDraw graphics package discussion
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< CRAFTING-FORSALE Crafting Project and Supplies For Sale
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< DCP DayCare Providers Information Exchange
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< DIETING DIETING
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< ER Er Hit TV Show
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< FCC Radio and Data Telecommunications Regulation
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< FLAT_TAX Discussion on Taxation Issues
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< FREE_SPEECH Freedom of Speech and Expression
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< FTN_INTERNET FTN Internet Discussion
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< GOURMET Gourmet Cooking
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< HAM-ECHO Open discussion of Ham/Amateur Radio
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< HARLEY_DAVIDSON HARLEY_DAVIDSON echo.
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< HAYES Hayes Modems Discussion
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< HOBBIES HOBBIES
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< HWDEBATE Computer hardware debate
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< I_UFO UFO's, Science, Alien Contact, no ridicule
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< LOCAL_MUSIC Local Music
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< MILITARY Military General Conference for all services.
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< MISSING National Missing Persons Echo
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< MISSING_CHILD Missing Children Echo
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< MP3 International MP3 Discussion Forum
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< MYTHOLOGY Mythology Conference.
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< NEUROLOGY Neurology
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< NEWSCHAT Read and discuss FidoNews articles _ONLY_
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< NOPIRACY Computer Piracy
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< NORML Electronic Media Venture Marijuana Information
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< OPTOMETRY Vision & Eye Care Discussions
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< PARANORMAL Paranormal discussions.
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< POST_POLIO International Post-Polio Survivors Forum
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< PYRO National Pyrotechnic Echo
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< QFRONT QFront Support Conference
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< QUANTUMLEAP Quantum Leap T.V. Show Discussion
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< REGIONS REGIONS echo
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< SACRED_MAGICK Magick and it's Mythos and Spiritualities.
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< SINGLE_PARENT Single Parent Information Exchange
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< STEP_PARENT Discuss issues relating to Step Parenting.
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< TELEMATE This is the TELEMATE Conference
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< THERAPY_SERVICE_DOG Discussion of Therapy, Service, and Guide Dogs
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< TRADEWARS Conference for Discussion of the Game Tradewars
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< VIDEO Video Area
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< WEBTV WEBTV
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< WELFARE Debate about systems of social welfare
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< WILDCAT5 A forum for discussion/support of Wildcat v5.x
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< WORLD_CRISIS Discussion of the World Financial Crisis
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 9 13 Sep 1999
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Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]
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by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
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lisa@psg.com
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Summary of Z1B echo changes during Jul & Aug.
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Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
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diff backbone.z1b 04-Jul-99 backbone.z1b 05-Sep-99 [edited].
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Echotag name change
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> HOME_BEER_BREWING Beer Homebrewing [new echotag name]
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< ZYMURGY Beer Homebrewing [old echotag name]
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Echotag recycled for a new echo?
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> MILLENNIUM Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo! [new echo]
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< MILLENNIUM Millennium TV show discussions [old echo]
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Added to the Z1B list of echos
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> 4MODSONLY For Moderator's ONLY Echo!
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> COMIC_RELIEF G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick
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> FIDONET2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference
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> FIDOPOLS Fidonet Policy Discussion Forum
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> LONELY_HEARTS Lonely Hearts echo!
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> NAVY U.S. Navy Support Echo Conference
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> PIZZANUT PIZZA & BEER quest, etc!
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> THEIST_WATCH American Atheist Watch on Religious Shenanigans
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> THE_SIMPSONS The Simpsons Discussion Echo
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> TWIT Twit's Echo!
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Removed from the Z1B list of echos
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< ADAM Adam International Computer Conference
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< ALTMED Alternative Medicine
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< ANIMAL_RIGHTS Animal Rights Conference
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< ARCADE COIN-operated Arcade chat
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< A_CAD International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
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< BIKE-N-RIDER Motorcycle Riders, Bike Safety and Riding
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< BIKENET Fidonet's BIKENET echo!
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< BLACK_POWDER <No title>
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< CALLSIGN Amateur Radio Callsign Database
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< CHANNELLING Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms
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< COLLEGE International COLLEGE echo
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< COLLEGE_SINGLES College Singles -- hey baby, what's yer sign?
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< CONCORD Concord BBS program by Pasi Talliniemi
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< CORELDRAW CorelDraw graphics package discussion
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< CRAFTING-FORSALE Crafting Project and Supplies For Sale
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< DCP DayCare Providers Information Exchange
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< DCTPROD The DCT Productions Support Echo
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< DIETING DIETING
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< EDGE_ONLINE Endtime Discussion Group Exchange Online
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< ER Er Hit TV Show
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< FCC Radio and Data Telecommunications Regulation
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 10 13 Sep 1999
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< FEED_CUT Designed to inform of echo feed cuts
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< FLAT_TAX Discussion on Taxation Issues etc.
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< FREE_SPEECH Freedom of Speech and Expression
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< FTN_INTERNET FTN Internet Discussion
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< GOURMET Gourmet Cooking
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< HAM-ECHO Open discussion of Ham/Amateur Radio
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< HARLEY_DAVIDSON HARLEY_DAVIDSON echo.
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< HAYES Hayes Modems Discussion
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< HOBBIES HOBBIES
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< HWDEBATE Computer hardware debate
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< INJOY The InJoy Internet Dialer
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< I_UFO UFO's, Science, Alien Contact, no ridicule
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< LE/SECURITY Law Enforcement/Security Issues & Concerns
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< LOCAL_MUSIC Local Music
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< MISSING National Missing Persons Echo
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< MISSING_CHILD Missing Children Echo
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< MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results
|
||
< MP3 International MP3 Discussion Forum
|
||
< MST3K Mystery Science Theater 3000
|
||
< MYTHOLOGY Mythology Conference.
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< NEUROLOGY Neurology
|
||
< NEWSCHAT Read and discuss FidoNews articles _ONLY_
|
||
< NOPIRACY Computer Piracy
|
||
< NORML Electronic Media Venture Marijuana Information
|
||
< NT4_UK Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation
|
||
< OPTOMETRY Vision & Eye Care Discussions
|
||
< OS2GAMES Help for running games in IBM OS/2
|
||
< P5DRAFT Conference for Discussion of Policy 5 DRAFT
|
||
< PARANORMAL Paranormal discussions.
|
||
< PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL CHAT FOR PENNSYLVANIA
|
||
< POST_POLIO International Post-Polio Survivors Forum
|
||
< PYRO National Pyrotechnic Echo
|
||
< QFRONT QFront Support Conference
|
||
< QMODEM_USER Qmodem Users Discussion Conference
|
||
< QM_ECHO QM EchoMail processor and related programs
|
||
< QUANTUMLEAP Quantum Leap T.V. Show Discussion
|
||
< QUIKUTILS Official Matrix Technologies support echo
|
||
< REGIONS REGIONS echo.
|
||
< RIBBS RiBBS (CoCo/OS9) Sysop Support
|
||
< SACRED_MAGICK Magick and it's Mythos and Spiritualities.
|
||
< SILENTTALK Deaf and Hard of Hearing support Echo.
|
||
< SINGLE_PARENT Single Parent Information Exchange
|
||
< STEP_PARENT Discuss issues relating to Step Parenting.
|
||
< S_KING Discussion of Stephen King and his works.
|
||
< TELEMATE This is the TELEMATE support Conference
|
||
< THERAPY_SERVICE_DOG Discussion of Therapy, Service, and Guide Dogs
|
||
< THE_CURE_NETWORK Oregon State Political Discussions and News.
|
||
< TRANSCAN Trans Canada Drivel
|
||
< TRIUS TRIUS, Inc. Product Support and Information
|
||
< VIDEO Video Area
|
||
< WEBTV WEBTV
|
||
< WELFARE Debate about systems of social welfare
|
||
< WILDCAT5 A forum for discussion/support of Wildcat v5.x
|
||
< WORLD_CRISIS Discussion of the World Financial Crisis
|
||
< Z1_FIDONET Zone 1 Chat about almost any thing Echo.
|
||
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|
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 11 13 Sep 1999
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|
||
o There are 658 echo in backbone.z1b [05-Sep-99] (down 66)
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 12 13 Sep 1999
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|
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=================================================================
|
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NOTICES
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||
=================================================================
|
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|
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Future History
|
||
|
||
26 Oct 1999
|
||
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
|
||
|
||
31 Dec 1999
|
||
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
|
||
|
||
1 Jan 2000
|
||
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
|
||
|
||
1 Jun 2000
|
||
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
|
||
|
||
15 Sep 2000
|
||
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
|
||
|
||
21 Sep 2000
|
||
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
|
||
|
||
1 Jan 2001
|
||
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
|
||
|
||
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
|
||
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 13 13 Sep 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
FIDONET BY INTERNET
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
|
||
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
|
||
|
||
FidoNet:
|
||
|
||
Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
|
||
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
|
||
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
|
||
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
|
||
FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/
|
||
Echomail [pending]
|
||
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
|
||
List servers:
|
||
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
|
||
|
||
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
|
||
|
||
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
|
||
|
||
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
|
||
|
||
Region 14:
|
||
|
||
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
|
||
|
||
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
|
||
|
||
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
|
||
|
||
Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
|
||
|
||
Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
|
||
|
||
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
|
||
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido (English/German)
|
||
|
||
Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
|
||
|
||
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
|
||
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 14 13 Sep 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
|
||
|
||
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
|
||
|
||
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
|
||
|
||
Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
|
||
|
||
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
|
||
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
|
||
|
||
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
|
||
|
||
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
|
||
|
||
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
|
||
|
||
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
|
||
|
||
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
|
||
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
|
||
Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 4:
|
||
|
||
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
|
||
|
||
Region 90:
|
||
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
|
||
|
||
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)
|
||
|
||
============
|
||
|
||
Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
|
||
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
|
||
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
|
||
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
|
||
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
|
||
|
||
TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 15 13 Sep 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 16 13 Sep 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
FIDONEWS INFORMATION
|
||
=================================================================
|
||
|
||
|
||
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
|
||
|
||
Editor: Henk Wolsink
|
||
|
||
Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
|
||
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
|
||
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg
|
||
|
||
"FidoNews Editor"
|
||
FidoNet 5:5/23
|
||
BBS +27-41-581-5913, 2400/9600/V34
|
||
|
||
more addresses:
|
||
Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2, hwolsink@catpe.alt.za
|
||
|
||
(Postal Service mailing address)
|
||
FidoNews Editor
|
||
P.O. Box 12325
|
||
Port Elizabeth,
|
||
6006
|
||
South Africa
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
|
||
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
|
||
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
|
||
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
|
||
does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
|
||
these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
|
||
FidoNews and/or the Editor.
|
||
|
||
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
|
||
Copyright (C) 1999 Henk Wolsink. All rights reserved. Duplication
|
||
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
|
||
use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
|
||
the Editor.
|
||
|
||
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
|
||
|
||
OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
|
||
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
|
||
file-request, or from various sites in FidoNet and the Internet.
|
||
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
|
||
address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
|
||
FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
|
||
back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSGnn.ZIP] for a
|
||
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
|
||
where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
|
||
current year [9], i.e., FNWSJAN9.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 99.
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 17 13 Sep 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
|
||
1 - 16 for 1984 - 1999, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
|
||
size from 48K to 1.4M.
|
||
|
||
|
||
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
|
||
|
||
http://www.fidonews.org
|
||
** http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
|
||
** ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
|
||
ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
|
||
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews
|
||
|
||
And in non-English formats via:
|
||
|
||
** http://www.hvc.ee/pats/fidonews (Estonian)
|
||
http://www.fidonet.pp.se/sfnews (Swedish)
|
||
|
||
** LINK HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED
|
||
|
||
*=*=*
|
||
|
||
You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:
|
||
|
||
jbarchuk@worldnet.att.net
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the
|
||
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|
||
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|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
|
||
by sending email to:
|
||
|
||
ftpmail@fidonews.org
|
||
|
||
with a Subject line of: help
|
||
|
||
and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
|
||
instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
|
||
respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
|
||
www.fidonews.org.
|
||
|
||
*=*=*
|
||
|
||
You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
|
||
|
||
http://www.fidonews.org
|
||
|
||
and http://www.fidonet.dynip.com/public/fidonews/default.htm
|
||
|
||
and in the FIDONEWS echo.
|
||
|
||
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 18 13 Sep 1999
|
||
|
||
|
||
STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
|
||
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
|
||
|
||
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
|
||
|
||
Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
|
||
for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
The current week's FidoNews are now also available almost immediately
|
||
after publication on the FidoNews Editor homepage on the World Wide
|
||
Web at:
|
||
|
||
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html
|
||
|
||
There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
|
||
to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an
|
||
email link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.
|
||
|
||
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|
||
|
||
SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
|
||
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
|
||
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|
||
from 5:5/23 [5:7104/2] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators
|
||
should have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
|
||
|
||
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
|
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
|
||
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|
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|
||
"Disagreement is actually necessary,
|
||
or we'd all have to get in fights
|
||
or something to amuse ourselves
|
||
and create the requisite chaos."
|
||
-Tom Jennings
|
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