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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 37 13 September 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
| _ | +27-41-581-5913 [5:5/23] |
| / \ | |
| /|oo \ | |
| (_| /_) | Editor: |
| _`@/_ \ _ | |
| | | \ \\ | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 |
| | (*) | \ )) | |
| |__U__| / \// | |
| _//|| _\ / | |
| (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. |
| (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| Submission address: FidoNews Editor 5:5/23 |
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| MORE addresses: |
| submissions=> editor@fidonews.org |
| hwolsink@catpe.alt.za |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
| please refer to the end of this file. |
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Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
Stamps for your Email .................................... 2
3. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
NAB & WWB Echo Diff ...................................... 4
NAB & Z1B Echo Diff ...................................... 5
North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug] ........... 7
Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug] ....................... 9
4. NOTICES .................................................. 12
Future History ........................................... 12
5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 13
6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 16
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 1 13 Sep 1999
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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,
This is my last day as your editor of FidoNews. As from next week's
issue, Douglas Myers will be your new editor.
I would like to thank all of you who so kindly supported me.
Ofcourse, there's no thanks for those who always bigger and want
nothing more than to be boss of our hobby FidoNet. This is a great
pitty, that SysOp's cannot stand together to make FidoNet a better
network to be in.
Keep well and I'll be around to watch from the sideline. :-)
Happy reading,
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 2 13 Sep 1999
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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Stamps for your Email
Douglas Myers
1:270/720
DougM@paonline.com
If you hold your ear very close to your POP3 server, you can hear
the roar of an ocean of injustice. Is the government reading your
email? Will the telephone company be able to charge you long
distance surcharges for your data connections? Will your ISP be
required to limit your selections on the web?
This week's email sounded a clarion call alerting me the the latest
attempt to trample my personal freedoms:
----- excerpt from email -----
Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be
attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill
602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on
every email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at
source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP.
..
The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the
proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per
year.
..
Since the average citizen received about 10 pieces of email per day
in 1998, the cost to the typical individual would be an additional
50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above and beyond
their regular Internet costs.
-------- end excerpt ---------
To save space, I've not included the usual rhetoric about the
efficiency of the post office and the federal government in general,
nor the dire warnings about giving the government a foothold to
strip us of a free internet. It is presumed that the reader is
already familiar with the concept.
The letter did go on to say that all major newspapers are ignoring
the story, so I thought I'd address it in Fidonews :)
To begin with, I'm not sure that there is a Bill 602P - sometimes
these letters don't restrict themselves to the facts. But if there
is a Bill 602P, it won't recover the USPS' lost revenues - if the
post office is losing $0.33 per letter and only recovering $0.05 per
letter, then it's only going to recover about $35 million of its
lost $230 million. This is a figure almost beneath Uncle Sam's
notice... unless he takes the following two steps to bolster revenue
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 3 13 Sep 1999
significantly:
1. Surcharge email received rather than email sent. This would
have the double benefit encouraging spammers to work for free as
agents of the United States Government as well as drawing
significant revenue from folks with an email account who just aren't
creative enough to write much.
2. Consider newsgroups to be email. The ALT groups alone could
wipe out the national debt! Of course, if the concept were extended
to include echomail, then the Zone 1 Backbone would be scrambling to
recover all those echoes they've dropped, as low volume echoes would
suddenly be in vogue.
In calculating lost revenues, the Post Office needs to look beyond
email to other forms of communication. For example, Postal
Inspectors could walk into the Churches and Synagogues and Temples
of our nation and surcharge all those prayers to God. None of them
bear a postage stamp, to the best of my knowledge. Better yet, they
could surcharge prayers at home - three meals per day and bedtime
prayers. Compliance with this latter is expected to be high...
after all, would YOU be willing to tell the government that you
don't say your prayers at beddy-bye?
And the Postal Inspectors could march into the singles bars
throughout the land on the alert for body language. After all, it
all goes unstamped except for possibly an occasional woman who's
been hit upon one too many times. Of course, Postal Inspectors are
a dry lot and might miss some of the body language. Perhaps it's
time for a new concept here: outcome-based surcharing. For
example, a man or woman who draws a smile could be charged for one
letter. A whistle would be worth three letters. If one actually
scores, he or she could appeal for bulk rate.
Pay attention to the roar of the ocean in your mailbox... you just
never know what's going to wash ashore...
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 4 13 Sep 1999
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ARTICLES
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NAB & WWB Echo Diff
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
lisa@psg.com
Comparing the echo lists of the NAB (North American Backbone) and
the WWB (World Wide Backbone) distribution systems:
diff backbone.na (05-Sep-99) backbone.ww (05-Sep-99) [edited]
Echos on the NAB but not on the WWB
-----------------------------------
ADLIB Computer Soundcard Discussion Area
AREXX Echo for discussion and assistance on Arexx.
MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results
MTG_TRADE Magic: The Gathering, Trading Echo
NT4_UK Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation/Server
POWER_BAS PowerBASIC Programmers Conference
TABLATURE Tablature
Z1C Zone 1 Coordinator Contact Conference
Echos on the WWB but not on the NAB
-----------------------------------
ASTROWAR_UK <Description Missing>
BBBS.BZ Discussion of BBBS's script language, BZ.
BBBS.CHAT General chat about BBBS.
BBBS.SYSOP BBBS SysOp Conference
BBBS.UTIL Announcements and discussion of BBBS-related
utilities.
BUGTRAQ Unix security
CELLULAR_UK Cellular Phones discussions
ECONOMICS_UK Economics Talk
EUROCON EuroCon 1999 (European SysOp Convention)
FIDOSOFT.HUSKY The Fidosoft Husky Project for Linux
FTNHUB Custom Internet Service's FTNHUB Support Echo
FTN_PROGS Discussion of anything about FTN Programs
FTP_FIDO Using Internet FTP to receive FidoNet echomail
and files
MARKET <Description Missing>
MCIBTYC My Computer is Better Than Your Computer
MYTHOLOGY Mythology Conference.
OBSOLETE Obsolete Computers
OS2COMM OS/2 Comm
PGMRS <Description missing>
PLANET_CONNECT Planet Connect Discussions & Support
RAILFANS Railfans, Train Watching, Prototype Railroads
SOU_STAR Southern Star (1:396/1) Admin Area
STRATEGY Strategy Computer Games
WIN.SYSOP Windows-Based BBS Software Support
WIN_95 UK Windows 95 Talk
WWB_SYSOP World Wide Backbone Sysop Conference
WWB_TECH World Wide Backbone Technical Conference
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 5 13 Sep 1999
Z3_2000_EVENTS The New Millennium events all around the world
ZCC-DISCUSSION ZCC Discussions
ZCC-PUBLIC ZCC-messages from the ZCC-conference
The NAB list, backbone.na (05-Sep-99) has 751 echos.
The WWB list, backbone.ww (05-Sep-99) has 773 echos.
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NAB & Z1B Echo Diff
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
lisa@psg.com
Comparing the echo lists of the NAB (North American Backbone) and
the Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone) distribution systems:
diff backbone.na (05-Sep-99) backbone.z1b (05-Sep-99) [edited]
Echos on the NAB but not on the Z1B
-----------------------------------
60S_70S_PROGROCK 60's/70's Progressive Rock Music Echo
AIDS-HIV AIDS & HIV
ALASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR ALASKA
AMIGA_FILEFIND Filefind Echo for AMIGA computers
AMIGA_INT Amiga Worldwide
AMY_COMMS Amiga Telecommunications Rounsrvlw
ARIZONA GENERAL CHAT FOR ARIZONA
ARKANSAS_ GENERAL CHAT FOR ARKANSAS
ASL American Sign Language Echo
ATHEISM Intra-atheist education and discussion echo.
CALIFORNIA GENERAL CHAT FOR CALIFORNIA
COLORADO GENERAL CHAT FOR COLORADO
CONFED_HERITAGE Confederate Heritage
CONNECTICUT GENERAL CHAT FOR CONNECTICUT
DCTPROD The DCT Productions Support Echo
DELAWARE GENERAL CHAT FOR DELAWARE
DELPHI Borland Delphi Developers' Echo
EC_SUPPORT Ezycom BBS Support for Sysop's
EDGE_ONLINE End Times - Mystery Babylon and the Beast 666
EQUUS HORSE DISCUSSION ECHO
FEED_CUT Designed to inform re echo feed cuts
FLORIDA GENERAL CHAT FOR FLORIDA
GEORGIA GENERAL CHAT FOR GEORGIA
HAM_REQ Amateur Radio File Announcements & Requests
HARDWARE Computer Hardware & Peripheral
HAWAII GENERAL CHAT FOR HAWAII
I95 Cruising Interstate 95
IDAHO GENERAL CHAT FOR IDAHO
ILLINOIS GENERAL CHAT FOR ILLINOIS
INDIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR INDIANA
INJOY The InJoy Internet Dialer
IOWA GENERAL CHAT FOR IOWA
KANSAS GENERAL CHAT FOR KANSAS
KENTUCKY GENERAL CHAT FOR KENTUCKY
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 6 13 Sep 1999
LE/SECURITY Law Enforcement/Security Issues & Concerns
LOUISIANA GENERAL CHAT FOR LOUISIANA
MAINE GENERAL CHAT FOR MAINE
MARYLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR MARYLAND
MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL CHAT FOR MASSACHUSETTS
MEXICAN_LINK Mexico's International Link (Multilingual)
MINNESOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR MINNESOTA
MISSISSIPPI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSISSIPPI
MISSOURI GENERAL CHAT FOR MISSOURI
MLM Multi-Level Marketing conference
MONTANA GENERAL CHAT FOR MONTANA
MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results
MST3K Mystery Science Theater 3000
M_GRIPE Gripe: The Mother of All Echos
NATURIST Naturist/nudist discussion
NEBRASKA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEBRASKA
NEVADA GENERAL CHAT FOR NEVADA
NEW_HAMPSHIRE GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE
NEW_JERSEY GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW JERSEY
NEW_MEXICO GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW MEXICO
NEW_YORK GENERAL CHAT FOR NEW YORK
NORTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH DAKOTA
NT4_UK Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation/Server
OHIO GENERAL CHAT FOR OHIO
OJ_SIMPSON O.J. Simpson discussion
OREGON GENERAL CHAT FOR OREGON
OS2GAMES Help for running games in IBM OS/2
P5DRAFT Conference for Discussion of Policy 5 DRAFT
PARROTS PARROTS CONFERENCE
PAUL_REVERE The Paul Revere 2AM Grassroots Conference
PCWRITE PCWrite and Multi-Platform Computing
PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL CHAT FOR PENNSYLVANIA
QMODEM_USER Qmodem Users Discussion Conference
QM_ECHO QM EchoMail processor and related programs
QUIKUTILS Official Matrix Technologies support echo
RCM Radio Control Model II
RHODE_ISLAND GENERAL CHAT FOR RHODE ISLAND
RIBBS RiBBS (CoCo/OS9) Sysop Support
SEMPOINT Echomail Conference for SEMPOINT users
SET Setian Discussions (Formerly "Base of Set")
SILENTTALK Echo for people who are deaf or hard of hearing
SOUTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA
SOUTH_DAKOTA GENERAL CHAT FOR SOUTH DAKOTA
SUPERBBS SuperBBS Support Echo
S_KING Discussion of Stephen King and his works.
TENNESSEE GENERAL CHAT FOR TENNESSEE
THE_CURE_NETWORK Oregon State Political Discussions and News.
TRANSCAN TransCanadian Soapbox echo
TRIUS TRIUS, Inc. Product Support and Information
UNUSUAL_PETS Unusual Pets Echo!
UTAH GENERAL CHAT FOR UTAH
VERMONT GENERAL CHAT FOR VERMONT
VIN_MAISON The Wine Lovers Echo!
VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR VIRGINIA
WASHINGTON GENERAL CHAT FOR WASHINGTON
WEST_VIRGINIA GENERAL CHAT FOR WEST VIRGINIA
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 7 13 Sep 1999
WISCONSIN GENERAL CHAT FOR WISCONSIN
WYOMING GENERAL CHAT FOR WYOMING
Z1-ELECTION Alternate Z1C Election discussion area
Echos on the Z1B but not on the NAB
-----------------------------------
None
The NAB list, backbone.na (05-Sep-99) has 751 echos.
The Z1B list, backbone.z1b (05-Sep-99) has 658 echos.
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
lisa@psg.com
Summary of NAB echo changes during Jul & Aug.
Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
diff backbone.na 04-Jul-99 backbone.na 05-Sep-99 [edited].
Echotag name change
-------------------
> HOME_BEER_BREWING Beer Homebrewing [new echotag name]
< ZYMURGY Beer Homebrewing [old echotag name]
Echotag recycled for a new echo?
--------------------------------
> MILLENNIUM Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo! [new echo]
< MILLENNIUM Millennium TV show discussions [old echo]
Added to the NAB list of echos
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> 4MODSONLY For Moderator's ONLY Echo!
> COMIC_RELIEF G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick
> FIDOPOLS Fidonet Policy Discussion Forum
> HARDWARE Computer Hardware & Peripheral
> LONELY_HEARTS Lonely Hearts echo!
> PIZZANUT PIZZA & BEER quest, etc!
> SEMPOINT Echomail Conference for SEMPOINT users
> THE_SIMPSONS The Simpsons Discussion Echo
> TWIT Twit's Echo!
> UNUSUAL_PETS Unusual Pets Echo!
Removed from the NAB list of echos
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< ADAM Adam International Computer Conference
< ALTMED Alternative Medicine
< ANIMAL_RIGHTS Animal Rights Conference
< ARCADE COIN-operated Arcade chat
< A_CAD International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
< BIKE-N-RIDER Motorcycle Riders, Bike Safety and Riding
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 8 13 Sep 1999
< BIKENET Fidonet's BIKENET echo!
< BLACK_POWDER <No title>
< CALLSIGN Amateur Radio License Callsign Server Echo
< CHANNELLING Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms
< COLLEGE International COLLEGE echo
< COLLEGE_SINGLES College Singles -- hey baby, what's yer sign?
< CONCORD Concord BBS program by Pasi Talliniemi
< CORELDRAW CorelDraw graphics package discussion
< CRAFTING-FORSALE Crafting Project and Supplies For Sale
< DCP DayCare Providers Information Exchange
< DIETING DIETING
< ER Er Hit TV Show
< FCC Radio and Data Telecommunications Regulation
< FLAT_TAX Discussion on Taxation Issues
< FREE_SPEECH Freedom of Speech and Expression
< FTN_INTERNET FTN Internet Discussion
< GOURMET Gourmet Cooking
< HAM-ECHO Open discussion of Ham/Amateur Radio
< HARLEY_DAVIDSON HARLEY_DAVIDSON echo.
< HAYES Hayes Modems Discussion
< HOBBIES HOBBIES
< HWDEBATE Computer hardware debate
< I_UFO UFO's, Science, Alien Contact, no ridicule
< LOCAL_MUSIC Local Music
< MILITARY Military General Conference for all services.
< MISSING National Missing Persons Echo
< MISSING_CHILD Missing Children Echo
< MP3 International MP3 Discussion Forum
< MYTHOLOGY Mythology Conference.
< NEUROLOGY Neurology
< NEWSCHAT Read and discuss FidoNews articles _ONLY_
< NOPIRACY Computer Piracy
< NORML Electronic Media Venture Marijuana Information
< OPTOMETRY Vision & Eye Care Discussions
< PARANORMAL Paranormal discussions.
< POST_POLIO International Post-Polio Survivors Forum
< PYRO National Pyrotechnic Echo
< QFRONT QFront Support Conference
< QUANTUMLEAP Quantum Leap T.V. Show Discussion
< REGIONS REGIONS echo
< SACRED_MAGICK Magick and it's Mythos and Spiritualities.
< SINGLE_PARENT Single Parent Information Exchange
< STEP_PARENT Discuss issues relating to Step Parenting.
< TELEMATE This is the TELEMATE Conference
< THERAPY_SERVICE_DOG Discussion of Therapy, Service, and Guide Dogs
< TRADEWARS Conference for Discussion of the Game Tradewars
< VIDEO Video Area
< WEBTV WEBTV
< WELFARE Debate about systems of social welfare
< WILDCAT5 A forum for discussion/support of Wildcat v5.x
< WORLD_CRISIS Discussion of the World Financial Crisis
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o There are 751 echos in backbone.na [05-Sep-99] (down 47)
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FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 9 13 Sep 1999
Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Jul-Aug]
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
lisa@psg.com
Summary of Z1B echo changes during Jul & Aug.
Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
diff backbone.z1b 04-Jul-99 backbone.z1b 05-Sep-99 [edited].
Echotag name change
-------------------
> HOME_BEER_BREWING Beer Homebrewing [new echotag name]
< ZYMURGY Beer Homebrewing [old echotag name]
Echotag recycled for a new echo?
--------------------------------
> MILLENNIUM Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo! [new echo]
< MILLENNIUM Millennium TV show discussions [old echo]
Added to the Z1B list of echos
------------------------------
> 4MODSONLY For Moderator's ONLY Echo!
> COMIC_RELIEF G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick
> FIDONET2000 FidoNet 2000 Conference
> FIDOPOLS Fidonet Policy Discussion Forum
> LONELY_HEARTS Lonely Hearts echo!
> NAVY U.S. Navy Support Echo Conference
> PIZZANUT PIZZA & BEER quest, etc!
> THEIST_WATCH American Atheist Watch on Religious Shenanigans
> THE_SIMPSONS The Simpsons Discussion Echo
> TWIT Twit's Echo!
Removed from the Z1B list of echos
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< ADAM Adam International Computer Conference
< ALTMED Alternative Medicine
< ANIMAL_RIGHTS Animal Rights Conference
< ARCADE COIN-operated Arcade chat
< A_CAD International AutoCAD/CAD Conference
< BIKE-N-RIDER Motorcycle Riders, Bike Safety and Riding
< BIKENET Fidonet's BIKENET echo!
< BLACK_POWDER <No title>
< CALLSIGN Amateur Radio Callsign Database
< CHANNELLING Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms
< COLLEGE International COLLEGE echo
< COLLEGE_SINGLES College Singles -- hey baby, what's yer sign?
< CONCORD Concord BBS program by Pasi Talliniemi
< CORELDRAW CorelDraw graphics package discussion
< CRAFTING-FORSALE Crafting Project and Supplies For Sale
< DCP DayCare Providers Information Exchange
< DCTPROD The DCT Productions Support Echo
< DIETING DIETING
< EDGE_ONLINE Endtime Discussion Group Exchange Online
< ER Er Hit TV Show
< FCC Radio and Data Telecommunications Regulation
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< FEED_CUT Designed to inform of echo feed cuts
< FLAT_TAX Discussion on Taxation Issues etc.
< FREE_SPEECH Freedom of Speech and Expression
< FTN_INTERNET FTN Internet Discussion
< GOURMET Gourmet Cooking
< HAM-ECHO Open discussion of Ham/Amateur Radio
< HARLEY_DAVIDSON HARLEY_DAVIDSON echo.
< HAYES Hayes Modems Discussion
< HOBBIES HOBBIES
< HWDEBATE Computer hardware debate
< INJOY The InJoy Internet Dialer
< I_UFO UFO's, Science, Alien Contact, no ridicule
< LE/SECURITY Law Enforcement/Security Issues & Concerns
< LOCAL_MUSIC Local Music
< MISSING National Missing Persons Echo
< MISSING_CHILD Missing Children Echo
< MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results
< MP3 International MP3 Discussion Forum
< MST3K Mystery Science Theater 3000
< MYTHOLOGY Mythology Conference.
< NEUROLOGY Neurology
< NEWSCHAT Read and discuss FidoNews articles _ONLY_
< NOPIRACY Computer Piracy
< NORML Electronic Media Venture Marijuana Information
< NT4_UK Discussion of Microsoft's NT4 Workstation
< OPTOMETRY Vision & Eye Care Discussions
< OS2GAMES Help for running games in IBM OS/2
< P5DRAFT Conference for Discussion of Policy 5 DRAFT
< PARANORMAL Paranormal discussions.
< PENNSYLVANIA GENERAL CHAT FOR PENNSYLVANIA
< POST_POLIO International Post-Polio Survivors Forum
< PYRO National Pyrotechnic Echo
< QFRONT QFront Support Conference
< QMODEM_USER Qmodem Users Discussion Conference
< QM_ECHO QM EchoMail processor and related programs
< QUANTUMLEAP Quantum Leap T.V. Show Discussion
< QUIKUTILS Official Matrix Technologies support echo
< REGIONS REGIONS echo.
< RIBBS RiBBS (CoCo/OS9) Sysop Support
< SACRED_MAGICK Magick and it's Mythos and Spiritualities.
< SILENTTALK Deaf and Hard of Hearing support Echo.
< SINGLE_PARENT Single Parent Information Exchange
< STEP_PARENT Discuss issues relating to Step Parenting.
< S_KING Discussion of Stephen King and his works.
< TELEMATE This is the TELEMATE support Conference
< THERAPY_SERVICE_DOG Discussion of Therapy, Service, and Guide Dogs
< THE_CURE_NETWORK Oregon State Political Discussions and News.
< TRANSCAN Trans Canada Drivel
< TRIUS TRIUS, Inc. Product Support and Information
< VIDEO Video Area
< WEBTV WEBTV
< WELFARE Debate about systems of social welfare
< WILDCAT5 A forum for discussion/support of Wildcat v5.x
< WORLD_CRISIS Discussion of the World Financial Crisis
< Z1_FIDONET Zone 1 Chat about almost any thing Echo.
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o There are 658 echo in backbone.z1b [05-Sep-99] (down 66)
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NOTICES
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Future History
26 Oct 1999
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
1 Jun 2000
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
21 Sep 2000
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
FidoNet:
Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/
Echomail [pending]
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
List servers:
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
============
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
Region 14:
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19
Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/
============
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido (English/German)
Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
============
Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
============
Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
============
Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
============
Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)
============
Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
FIDONEWS 16-37 Page 15 13 Sep 1999
to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
=================================================================
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
Editor: Henk Wolsink
Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg
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