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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ************************ REMOVED: 16 MAY 83 ************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
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10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
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11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
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12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
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16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
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17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
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18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
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19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
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20 use the replace command to replace the line.
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21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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23 ========================================
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24
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25 SINCE B.A.D. DID A REASONABLE JOB OF DESCRIBING HOW YOU CAN COMMUNICATE
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26 AT 600 BAUD OVER A 300 BAUD MODEM, (SEE DRIVE 'B') I WILL FORGO MY
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27 RANT OF THAT ASPECT. (UNLESS OF COURSE I GET CALLS TO DO SO....)
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28 *** CISTOP MIKEY THE BWMS MAN ******** 26 APR 83 ********************
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29 THIS IS A VERY GOOD SYSTEM . I HOPE ITS AROUND FOR A LONG TIME
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30 I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO READ ANY MEASAGES FROM THIS
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31 SYSTEM. CAN YOU HELP ME?
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32 **********************
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33 Answer to cry for help above:
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34 This system most strongly resembles a Cuisinart. All the messages
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35 get mooshed up together, butted up against each other. It is far more
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36 anonymous, indeed it is closer to a true 'electronic bulletin board' than
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37 the systems with similar functions.
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38 So jump right in, the water's fine. No comment is too off-the-wall,
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39 no idea is too looney (if you could see some of the backup disks, you'd
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40 know what I mean).
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41 The average user of this system is happiest discussing politics,
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42 religion, modems and baud rates, programming languages, and microprocessor
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43 fundamentals. I don't know which of these topics is the most controversial.;,
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44 but make a strong comment on any or all and most likely the electronic s**t
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45 will begin to fly.
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46 ************************
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47 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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48 LIKE HI!
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49 JUST THOUGHT I WOULD TAKE THIS TIME TO LIKE HUG YOUR FACE!
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50 I AM LIKE TOTALLY LIKE ENTHRALLED WITH LIKE ALL THE LIKE DATA ON THE
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51 TOTALLY MAXIMAL SYSTEM!!! GAG ME WITH INFO!!!
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52 TOTALLY LATER,
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53 THE VAL GAL
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54 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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55
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56 There are often severe problems associated with using telephone modems
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57 on radio circuits (HF). Phone modems are set up for a circuit that changes
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58 level minimally or at least very slowly. This is certainly far from the
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59 case on any HF circuit using the ionosphere for propogation. There is
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60 seldom any significant interference on the telephone, nor is there usually
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61 the very pronounced multipath problems with two nearly equal signals
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62 arriving with considerable delay between them. (How would you like to
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63 try to decide between two signals with one sending '1' and the other a
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64 '0' at the same time?)
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65 These are some of the reasons that most HF radio systems run at slow
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66 data rates (74.2 baud is FAST!). It is also why Baudot codes are used
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67 (only five bits per character gives more characters per second with
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68 the same baud).
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69 Regarding AFSK (or even APSK), there is a significant S/N penalty
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70 compared to direct FSK or direct PSK when using standard AM or FM with
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71 full carrier. You can recover the penalty by using higher transmitter
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72 power if you aren't bothered by the cost (or the law!). Using SSBSC
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73 is really just a way of translating the audio signal directly to a
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74 higher frequency, so it works just fine for data transmission, if
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75 you ignore the other problems that mother nature throws at you...
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76 {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} Analog Alan {}{}{}{} 27 Apr 83 PM {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
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77 There is an even better reason why baudot is common: up until very recently
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78 it was illegal for hams to use ascii, so it is still new. The slow rates
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79 are more the result of cheap, obsolete equipment, and is rapidly changing.
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80 But, as you say, radio is different. Or is it? There are bulletin boards
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81 on the 2 meter band, just like on landline.
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82 I see the Val Gal is back; greetings and lets hear more of it.
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83 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~B.A.D.~~~~~~~APR 27~~~~~~~~
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84 I have seen a lot of AFSK stuff running around on the 2 meter bands,
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85 as well as others in that vicinity. Also it is not all data transmission
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86 as we know it. There is an awfull lot of tone encoding going on for
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87 repeater access and other restricted things. These signals are being
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88 generated by touch tone equipment being thrown out as AFSK on FM bands.
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89 Why? because its cheap and available and it works. It has nothing to do
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90 with whether it is the best engineering way to do it (especially since
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91 it isn't!) You probably won't see much high speed stuff on the HF bands
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92 not because it can't be done, but rather because there is not enough
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93 space alocated to do it along with all the other trafic down there .
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94 Most (if not all) of the lower bands are already taken by voice and CW
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95 anyway, and those that are being used by RTTY are far too narrow for
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96 any kind of speed no matter what method of modulation you use.
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97 The high bands use FM because its all line of sight anyway, so you
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98 might as well do an easy way (the other common method is SSB, AM has
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99 been falling out of favour because of its increadibly waste of power
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100 for almost no signal strength. FM while being nearly as wastefull as
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101 AM has a better signal to noise ratio and is perfered over the much
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102 more efficient SSB because it is cheaper, and sounds better. SSB sounds
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103 like a donald duck routine most of the time because of oscilator drift.)
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104 The AFSK is used, because you just feed the signal into the aux input
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105 and there is no equipment mods required to get it done as is often the
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106 case with FSK or PSK. Remember, ease of implimentation is the prime
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107 motivator, not whether it is the most perfect way to do it or not.
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108 and AFSK is the easiest method to employ on most existing radio equipment.
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109 Actualy, I have found that in most cases the reason given for do something
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110 a certain way often has a base as an excuse for doing it the easiest way
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112 BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING
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113 .......................................................................
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115 And now, for an opposing viewpoint: Please be moderate, VAL GAL. Call
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116 B.A.D. on his landline and gag him in his ear. Save us the ignominity of
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117 it all, please. HUMBUG
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118 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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119 ****************************************
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120 ** **
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121 ** HELLO OUT THERE!!! **
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122 ****************************************
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126
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127 ___________________BEGIN ENTRY_________________________________________
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128
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129 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Arthur Dent 4/28/83 16:12:00 C QX10<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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130
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131 Notice above that I have developed a new type of heading. The format is
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132 as follows:
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133
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134 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~First & last name MM/DD/YY HH:MM:SS M CT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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135
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136
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137 Of course we know what your first & last name are (we hope), standard
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138 date and time format comes next, and then the message type. To decipher
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139 the message type, look below.
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140
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141 A=Extremly important! Read now.
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142 B=Will be of interest to most.
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143 C=You can skip this and come back to it.
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144 D=Very bland. Nothing of real interest
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145 E=Just use 'DO 10'.
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146
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147 Last but not least, the computer type. For me its QX10, for you it may be:
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148
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149 TRS=Trs-80
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150 APL2=Apple II
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151 IBM=IBM PC
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152 TERM=A normal terminal (Digital type)
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153 OSB1=Osborne 1
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154 OTHR=other type
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155
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156 --------------MESSAGE SEPARATE--------------------------------------
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157
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158 In other news:
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159 'Disconnection-807 longer up and running. De facto, it does no longer
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160 exist! To directly quote one of its sysops "it wasn't fun anymore so
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161 we just shut it down".
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162 Now doesn't that just take the biscuit! So don't even bother to call.
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163 Don't even bother listing it in the local SYSTEM directory. If you
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164 wish to see the deceased, its at the Doctors home for no-longer-up-
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165 and-running systems.
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166
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167 And thats the way it is.
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168
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169 Nostalgically,
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170 Arthur Dent
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172 ______________END MESSAGE____________________________________________
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175
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176 IT'S ONLY AS FUN AS YOU MAKE IT...
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177 *** CISTOP MIKEY 28 APR 83 *** (YOU MAY QUOTE ME) ******************
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184
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185 I am VERY new here. Will someone tell me how to operate this?
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186 I am confused. HELP please!?!?!?!?!
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187
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188 I get it n
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189 I get it n
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190 ow. Forget
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191 the messag
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192 e I left
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193 before.
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194 Who was that masked man? Why was he so confused? Tune in next
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195 week and find out.....
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196 ************************
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197 BULL
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198 VAL GAL:
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199 ARE YOU FOR REAL? I THOUGHT THAT JIVE WENT OUT WITH THE VALLEY
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200 FLOODS,LIKE WASHED UP!
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201 EVEN FRANK ZAPPA HAS MOVED ON TO BETTER THINGS,NOT TO MENTION
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202 THAT MOON IS A OBJECT OF THE PAST.
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203 SO WISE UP AND BE ORIGINAL IF THAT IS IF ITS WITH IN YOUR POWER
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204 TO DO SO --- GAG!
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205
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206 ==========================================================
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207 FOR SALE:
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208
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209 1980 VIKING POP UP CAMPER
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210
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211 . SLEEPS 5 OR 6
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212 . PROPANE FURNACE
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213 . 3 BURNER RANGE (CAN BE INSTALL ON OUTSIDE AT CAMPSITE
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214 . SINK
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215 . ICE BOX
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216 . PRIVACY CURTAINS
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217 . 15 GAL. WATER TANK
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218
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219 CALL TOM @ 661-xxxx ANYTIME
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220 ===============================================================
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221 disconnection 807, what in the world wasthat?
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222
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223 ################################################################
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224 TO SYSTEM OPERATOR*************************
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225 HI MIKEY-RECIEVED YOUR PACKAGE-THANK YOU-IT'S
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226 ON IT'S WAY-WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IT WAS A BUMMER
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227 THAT ONE COULDN'T USE THE WHOLE SHEET OF PAPER
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228 TIL I TURNED IT OVER-GOOD USE OF PAPER.
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229 ....................................
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230 AGREED, HAD SOME PROBLEMS GETTING THE THING DOWN LOADED AS THE
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231 MACHINE I WAS USING TO PULL IT OFF WITH DIDN'T LIKE LONG
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232 MESSAGES (THAT'S WHY THE *** MSG DONE *** WAS INSERTED EVERY
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233 ONCE IN A WHILE. THEN TO COMPOUND MATTERS IT RAN OUT OF PAPER
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234 AND I HAD TO SCROUNG UP SOME MORE REAL QUICK LIKE. FINALY TO
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235 ADD INSULT TO INJURY, I HAD FORGOT TO TURN OFF THE SAVE FUNCTION
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236 AND MEMORY FILLED UP AND I HAD TO CALL THE SYSTEM BACK TO GET
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237 THE REST OF THE DISK. GAD, I WOULD HAVE THAT A THING LIKE THAT
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238 WOULD HAVE BEEN SOOOO SIMPLE....................
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239 DOG
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240 One mention of the better signal to noise ratio of FM propagates a
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241 common misconception. For the same signal strength, the S/N on FM is
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242 almost no different from AM. The only time that FM gets the improvement
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243 is when you use wide deviation (much more than +/- 5 kHz for VF) and
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244 when the signal is well above the improvement threshold. At levels
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245 below the equivalent FM threshold, AM is actually quieter! The real
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246 reason for FM on the mobile communication frequencies is that the
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247 apparent audio level is constant, regardless of the signal strength.
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248 You can use the good old limiter to provide constant level recovered
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249 audio, while AM and AMssbsc requires a very well designed AGC system
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250 for level control on receive.
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251 For the person that said the only reason that hams don't use high
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252 speed modems on HF was the lack of clear bandwidth... I challenge
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253 you to send 2400 bps on any HF circuit over 200 miles, regardless
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254 of the rules and with negligible QRM. It should only take 3 kHz
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255 bandwidth, which isn't so much. Try it on 80 meters around 3600
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256 at 11 PM local time; the QRM is minimal. I bet you can't even
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257 recover the clock!
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258 {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} Analog Alan {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
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259 Actually it has been done. admittedly only at 1200 baud, but then
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260 that is the fastest 'standard' AFSK modem made. Really, it is quite
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261 simple to do . First you do not do SSB this is a major mistake as
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262 it corrupts the signal so badly its amazing that voice gets thru
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263 let alone data. While the phone company manages to do rather well
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264 with SSB, they have to go to some rather expensive extremes to
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265 get it done. As it is their main reason for even doing it is to
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266 save bandwidth space. As power and uncontroled conditions they can
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267 get around. I degress here, sorry. Any way since SSB is out what we
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268 have left of the standard methods of modulating is AM or FM.
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269 AM is also out because while it is more stable then SSB on the typical
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270 transmitter, it is far more suceptible to the type of noises that
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271 modems don't like. This leaves us with FM which although is far from
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272 perfect it the best we got. The next thing we have to worry about
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273 is the modem. We cannot use the 103 type modem, as it is a narrow shift
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274 modem, and is suceptible to noise variance. Nor can we use the slightly
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275 less common high speed modems such as the bell 201 (2400 baud) modem as
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276 these modems use phase shift to encode the data for transmission, and
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277 since the HF bands tend to shift the phase of the signal rather heavily
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278 this type of encoding is out. If we were to build our own high speed
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279 modem that used FSK instead, then we could handle it. finally the modem
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280 needs to be a wide shift type FSK modem such as the 202 modem. This
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281 reduces the noise interference problem to a minimum. The method of
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282 modulating the signal on the FM is not really important, since data
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283 signals are constant level there is really no effective difference between
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284 AFSK or FSK as we would be transmitting at 100% modulation in either case.
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285 As such we used AFSK since it was easier to connect to the radio.
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286 Now comes the important part, many hams expect the signal to get thru
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287 with no corruption at all. This is a wholly unrealistist attitude, after
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288 all if the high speed stuff can't get thru as good a connection as the
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289 phone line what makes them think it can get thru the air waves unmolested?
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290 As such we use a packet transmission system so as to be able to retransmit
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291 those pieces of data that get mangled. Also I might note that while
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292 you can get by with only a 3000Hz bandwidth to xmit the 2400 baud signal
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293 via SSB, you will need better then 2X the rate to xmit via AM or FM.
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294 Them's simply the rules of the game.
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295 As a parting comment, I still hold that ease of design is the prime
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296 factor in the design of most equipment. This is because engineering
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297 time is expensive, and you can't aford to spend months designing a
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298 piece of gear that you will only sell a couple hundred of at horribly
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299 narrow profit margins. Life doesn't work like that.
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300 ..... the exwarior ..............................................
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301 I agree with your comments. After all, laziness is a very strong
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302 motivating force! And you are certainly right that the standard ham
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303 SSB transmitter has neither the required bandwidth nor the necessary
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304 linearity to do an adequate job of sending high speed data. The
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305 equalization used in the slower synchronous modems (201) usually can
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306 only handle the group delay that is typical of a telephone channel, and
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307 the narrow transmitter a-n-d receiver filters in ham gear add much more
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308 group delay than a transcontinental terrestrial microwave link with all
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309 of the required channel filters.
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310 High speed FSK or AFSK modems will also have problems with the phase
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311 instability of HF paths (2400 bps and up) since there is a duality of
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312 the phase and frequency modulation techniques. Even at 1200 bps, the
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313 net data rate with packet transmission or other error correction
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314 methods will drop off drastically due to numerous retransmissions. It
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315 will be true that there is an optimum data rate with error correction
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316 that will provide the maximum throughput on a given channel. Either
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317 higher or lower data transmission rates will degrade the actual amount
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318 of data per unit time.
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319 {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} Analog Alan {}{}{} 30 Apr 83 PM {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
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320 **************************
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321 Get this: I just read about a new laser diode which has been used to
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322 transmit data over an optical fiber at 1G BPS. That's right, 1,000,000,000
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323 bits per second, equivalent to about 2 30-volume encyclopedias per second.
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324 So don't give me any of this 1200 baud nonsense.
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325 **************************
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326 In order to get away from the phase shift problems due to ionosphere
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327 fadeing, go to very high data rates, and send in short spurts. I admit
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328 this leaves out the 80 meter ham band, but go to somewhat higher freqs
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329 and use meteor trail scatter. (It's loaded with fade.) Most of the
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330 time you can't use this, but when it's good, it's good; so send a pilot
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331 signal from the receiving end, and when this gets through to the sender,
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332 he sends a spurt of very fast data. Don't laugh, it works. Standard FSk
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333 is still the best way to modulate, don't even bother with audio stuff
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334 except very wideband FM.
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335
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336 Now, for some interesting stuff. WOMEN. In case you haven't figured
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337 it out, one of the main reasons why there are no ladies on BWMS, or
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338 at least very few, it's because ther is nothing here of interest to
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339 them. Sooo. How about something for them, like recipes?
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340
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341 RHUBARB SHERBET
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342
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343 3 cups sliced rhubarb (1 lb)
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344 1 cup light corn syrup
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345 1/2 cup water
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346 1/4 cup orange liqueur (or creme de cassis)
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347
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348 In medium saucepan combine rhubarb, corn syrup, and water; bring to
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349 boil, reduce heat and simmer 10 minutes. Let cool, and blend in blender
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350 untilk smooth. Add liqueur and a few drops of red food coloring.
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351 Pour into 9" round or square flat pan and freeze until firm but not
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352 hard. Break into pieces, mash and mix until smooth; refreeze.
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353 Makes about 1 quart.
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354 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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355 Recipes, huh? Is this stereotyping, or role fixing, maybe? HEY, MIKE:
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356 How about a dialogue: among users: Friendly things once shared with a lady
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357 ===========================================================================
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358 -----
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359 I just saw all of the nicknames going on, I thought I'd get my two
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360 centss worth in.
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361
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362
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363 Pion (as in the particle)
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364 -----
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365 -----
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366 HI, I'M KINDA NEW TO THESE BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEMS AND ALL THAT
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367 AND I'D LIKE TO FIND ALL OF THE BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEMS THAT ARE
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368 AVAILABLE. COULD SOMEONE POST NAMES AND NUMBERS PLEASE?
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369
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370
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371 Pion
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372 -----
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373 AM TRYING TO LOCATE A NAVY SURPLUS OAK
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374 "CAPTAINS'S BED". IF YOU HAVE ONE FOR SALE OR KNOW IF OR WHERE I CAN GET ONE,
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375 PLEASE GIVE "TOM" A CALL AT 253-xxxx.
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376 IT HASCOME TO MY ATTENTION THAT MO
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377
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378
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379 IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT MOTION IS IMPOSSIBLE.
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380 I WAS TOLD THAT TO GO ANY WHERE I HAD MOVE FROM WHERE I WAS
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381 TO WHERE I WAS NOT
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382 WELL, I AM WHERE I AM I , AND I CANNOT BE WHERE I AM NOT
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383 RIGHT?????????????????????????????????????????????>????????
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384
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385 OF COURSE IF I WERE TO PLACE MY FOOT IN THE RIVER AND THEN
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386 REMOVE IT AND TRY TO PLACE IT IN AGAIN, I COULD NOT BECAUSE
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387 THE RIVER WILL HAVE CHANGED BEFOR E I COULD REPLACE MY FOOT
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388 IN FACT I CAN'T EVEN PLACE MY FOOT IN THE RIVER ONCE BECAUSE
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389 IT WILL HAVE ALREADY CHANGED, RIGHT?????????????????????????
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390 to sywop:
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391 hi!!! I'm brand-spankin new at this, but
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392 it looks like loads up fun!!!!!
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393 signed, jumpin' John
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394 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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395 HELP!!!!!
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396
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397 For some strange reason Backwater keeps
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398 repeating everything I type!!!
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399 Duplex isn't the problem on my end, because
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400 when I change from half to full (Or vice-versa)
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401 it has no effect whatsoever.
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402
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403 If someone has a way to stop BW from repeating me, please let me know!!!
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404 signed, J Zalcor(Alias John)
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405 --------------------------------------------
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406 That's easy! Stop calling BWMS and don't use the enter command!!!
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407 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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408 For a moment I thought using this system would be complicated,
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409 but after getting used to the commands, it wasn't so hard. Still,
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410 the help could be more "helpful." Oh, well, it's a good system
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411 anyway.
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412
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413
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416 Ready to criticize anything,
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417 Pion
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418 -----
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419 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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420 I don't want to stop using this thing--
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421 it's fun! Besides, you guys get some intersting argument
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422 going. I guess I'll just have o learn how to read
|
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423 different.
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424 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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425 HAS ANYONE BEEN CONNECTED WITH ANY TOOL AND/OR SKILL TRADING
|
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426 AROUND THE TRI- COUNTY AREA AS I'VE SEEN IN SEATTLE OR THE
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427 .....................................................
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428 John:
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429 What terminal program are you using (and on what system)?
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430 Some terminal programs confuse half/full duplex with echo/no echo.
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431 Dial-up systems are SUPPOSED to echo your characters back at you
|
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432 so you can see if what it received was what you sent.
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433 _____________________________Leonard____________________________
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434 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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435 Just for the record, I found my problem.
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436 The software I have refuses to do what
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437 I want. It seems I can sit here and tell
|
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438 it to go Full duplex atill I turn
|
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439 blue, but it won't. So I'm going to scrap it and write a new terminal
|
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440 program. Fun stuff. So until that job is
|
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441 finished, I WILL have to read differently!!!!!
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442 Thanx!!
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443 +++++++++++++++John+++++++++++++++++++++++++
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444 =======<==========================================================
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445
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446 TO ALL UNIX SYSTEMS PROGRAMMERS: I AM RECRUTING FOR A GRAPHICS/CAD
|
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447 SYSTEMS COMPANY WO IS LOOKING FOR A UNIX/C SYSTEMS PROGRAMMER FOR SUPPORT AND
|
|||
|
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448 ENHANCEMENT OF THE UNIX SHELL AND KERNAL. DEGREE IS REQUIRED, PAY IS $30 TO 36K
|
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449 PLEASE CONTACT CLIFF LILES AT (503)244-xxxx
|
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450 OR SEND A RESUME TO PERSONNEL SPECIALISTS.
|
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451 PORTLAND OR 97219
|
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452 WE ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM ANY OTHER PROGRAMMERS, ENGINEERS OR
|
|||
|
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453 TECHNICAL PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN A NEW JOB. WE ARE AN ENTIRELY EMPLOYER
|
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454 FEE PAID AGENCY.F
|
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455 FOR THE RADIO PEOPLE ON THE SYSTEM, I ALSO HAVE A JOB FOR A DEGREED SALESMAN
|
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456 WITH RADIO )(POLICE/INDUSTRAIIAL) EXPERIENCE TO SELL FOR A MAJOR MANUFACTURER
|
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|
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457 IF YOU QUALIFY FOR ANY OF THESE AREAS, GEIVE MAE A CALL. THANX
|
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|
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458 CLIFF LILES.
|
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|
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459 There's a whole bunch of bulletin board systems around.
|
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|
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460 I think someone should create an electronic postal system.
|
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|
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461 Maybe I'll give it a go...
|
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462
|
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463
|
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464 Pion
|
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465
|
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466 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|
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467 TO PION-WHAT COMPANY DO YOU WORK FOR AND WHAT SYSTEM ARE YOU USING?????
|
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468 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
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469 Pion, That's a good idea. Maybe we can get together and see if we can do
|
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470
|
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471 it, If you wouldn't mind some help.
|
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472 -John
|
|||
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473 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
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483 NEW COMPUTER STORE NAMED 80 PLUS WILL NPEN
|
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484 SATURDAY MAY 7TH.
|
|||
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485 PHONE NUMBER 771-xxxx.
|
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486 THEY HANDLE HARDVARE & ROFTWARE AND ALL TYPES OF
|
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487 COMPUTER SUPPLIES. STOP BY AND CHECK IT OUT.
|
|||
|
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488 REMEMBER TO TELL THEM YOU SAW THIS ON YOUR BBS.
|
|||
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489 T@EY HAVE ROME OF THE BEST PRICES IN PORTLAND.
|
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490
|
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491 -----
|
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492 From Pion:
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493
|
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494 I don't work for any company. I'm just a novice programmer,
|
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495 actually, and I come up with a bright idea every now and then.
|
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496
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497 I'm using a Heathkit H-89 computer with two secondary drives,
|
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498 a MX-80 printer with GRAFTRAX-80 installed and Hayes Smartmodem
|
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499 300.
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500
|
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501 To John: As I said, I'm just a novice programmer and I only
|
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502 do this in my spare time. I thank you for your offer, however.
|
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503 If you have any features you think would be a good idea, I'd
|
|||
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504 be glad to listen.
|
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505
|
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506 Thanks to all.
|
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507
|
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508
|
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509 Pion
|
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510 -----
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511 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
|
|||
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512 dear pion -- where does the name pion come from?
|
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513
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514 <><>><><><><><><><><><>>><><><><><><><><><><><><><>><>><><>><
|
|||
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515 -----
|
|||
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516 Reply to message above:
|
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517
|
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518 At first (and still on another system) I call myself
|
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|
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519 "The Pioneer." This is kind of a play on my middle name, "Dorian,"
|
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520 which was the name of a group of pioneers somewhere way
|
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|
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521 back then. I don't mean "pioneers" as in Davy Crockett, I
|
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522 mean WAY back then. I think they were Oriental, or at least
|
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523 Asian.
|
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524
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525 I got tired of signing "The Pioneer" at the end of every
|
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526 message and decided it to shorten it to "Pion," as in the
|
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527 particle. I don't know if this particle is real; I read about
|
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528 it in a Sci-Fi book. (It probably isn't real.)
|
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529
|
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530 I hope this answers your question. I prefer to keep my
|
|||
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531 entire name secret for unknown reasons, even to me. (This
|
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532 was a joke.)
|
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533
|
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534
|
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535 Pion
|
|||
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|
536 -----
|
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537 TO:ALL
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538 FROM:BRENDA FISHER
|
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539
|
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540
|
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541
|
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553 ...............................
|
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554 How's that again, Brenda??
|
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|
555 ...............................
|
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556 ********************************
|
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557 To Pion:
|
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|
558 Yes, 'pion' is a particle, originally called 'pi meson'.
|
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559 Originally hypothesized in the thirties by Hideki Yukawa as the
|
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560 particle which holds together the particles in nucleus of the
|
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561 atom. Discovered, I believe, in the early fifties.
|
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562 ********************************
|
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563 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|
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564 From: Bit Bucket BB System
|
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565 To: All
|
|||
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566 Subject: System downtime
|
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567
|
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568 The Bit Bucket BB system will go down tonight
|
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569 (5/6/83) until Monday, 5/16/83. This is required
|
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|
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570 because sysop is going on a business trip, and the
|
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571 wife can't operate the system. SO, I gotta take
|
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572 it down. System back up sometime 5/16, so "see"
|
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573 all you regular BBBB callers then.
|
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574 Rick B., System Operator, Bit Bucket.
|
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575 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
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576 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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577
|
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578 BBS #S
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579
|
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580 CBBS NW 646-xxxx
|
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581
|
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582 PMS-Portland 245-xxxx
|
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583
|
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584 RCPM 621-xxxx
|
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585
|
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586 RCPM 641-xxxx
|
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587
|
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588 Portland Atari Club 245-xxxx
|
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589
|
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590 Bit Bucket BBS 761-xxxx
|
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591
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592 SLOTH
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593 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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594
|
|||
|
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595 But then Pion may simply be a misspelling of Peon!
|
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596 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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597 Reply to above message:
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598
|
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599 Bad joke.
|
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600
|
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601
|
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602 Pion
|
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603 -----
|
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604 HERE IS A LIST OF ALL THE 300 BAUD NUMBERS THAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN. SORRY ABOUT
|
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605 ANY REPETITION OF THE NUMBERS.
|
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606
|
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607
|
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608 ** COMPUSERVE 232-xxxx/232-xxxx
|
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609 BIT BUCKET 761-xxxx
|
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610 CONNECTION-80 281-xxxx
|
|||
|
|
611 RCP/M 641-xxxx
|
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612 CP/M 621-xxxx
|
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|
613 BMS 230-xxxx (DUH!)
|
|||
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|
614 PT. ATARI CB 245-xxxx
|
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615 MCESD 255-xxxx
|
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616 PMS 245-xxxx
|
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617 PMS (EUGENE) 689-xxxx
|
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618 LITHO/NET (800) 831-xxxx
|
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619 OARCS 641-xxxx
|
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620 CBBS 646-xxxx/284-xxxx
|
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|
621
|
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622
|
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|
623 THAT'S IT, THE SYSM.
|
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|
|
624
|
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625
|
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626 ----------------::::::::-----------------
|
|||
|
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627 WELL IT'S ABOUT TIME FOR A COMPUTER AUDIO AD.
|
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|
|
628 THIS IS A TEST OF THE PUBLIC BULLETIN BOARD AUDIO AWARENESS.
|
|||
|
|
629 GILBERT AUDIO STOCKS THE WORLDS FINEST TURNTABLE. INTERESTED? CALL.
|
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|
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