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1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/12/89 00:28 Msg:4460 Call:24594 Lines:2
20 He that is too secure is not safe. -- Thomas Fuller
21 ******************************************************************
003=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 10/12/89 02:40 Msg:4461 Call:24595 Lines:86
22 {}
23
24 Something shall happen soon. Always seems that when things are best,
25 a disturbance comes from no-where.
26
27 AD, hope you caught my message - there are 680x0's availible.
28 Last time I saw the price of a 68010, it was roughtly $20-$25. May
29 seem spendy, but it may be worth it in the long run (for only a
30 5% speed increase on the same clock? Who am I kidding?...)
31 but a 68000 will run you for $12.00, and several are availible from
32 third party venders. A word of warning! Some third-party chip
33 fabricators do not pass as 100% functional! I remember (somewhere)
34 reading about how a licenced manf. had the rights to fabricate
35 "work-alike" chips, but there was something apperently wrong with
36 the actual masks themselves, so several hundred thousand 68000
37 chips came out with "reliability" problems. Some would crash any
38 system they were installed on with bus errors, etc. - again, something
39 to do with the internal electronics and the bus handling. The
40 problem was quickly remedied, as I recall. As for a source, try:
41 JDR Microdevices, 110 Knowles Drive, Los Gatos, CA 95030
42 Phone: (408) 866-6200
43 Retail Store: 1256 South Bascom Ave., San Jose CA (408) 947-8881
44 Hours: M-F 9-7 Sat 9-5 Sun 12-4
45 Quote for Nov '88 _$9.95_ (sorry about the age of the quote, best
46 I can do. But they have carried the line
47 off and on for a few years. Used to have
48 a special on 12Mhz 68020's @ around $130)
49
50 ... also ...
51
52 Advanced Computer Products, Inc.
53 Mail Order: PO Box 17329 Irvine CA 92713 Phone: 1-800-FONE-ACP
54 Again, Quote for Nov '88 _$12.95_
55
56 Hope that helps. Both also cater to memory chips, Itty Bitty Machine
57 chips (808x family), and much more. Grab an issue of Byte and
58 turn way to the back (if you can call these _slabs of paper_ magazine
59 issues), and hunt before and after the yellow classifieds.
60
61 * * *
62
63 He was tired. The "day" had seemed long, but it bothered him
64 little. Sleep was the gremlin in is mind, not boredom - so he
65 considered bedding down. He also knew that in a few minutes, his
66 mind would suddenly awake, to find a body exhausted and in slight pain.
67 His concentration was lapsing - which ment that he was now floating -
68 causing him to ooze here and there, especially at his digits. Regaining
69 composture, he sits into the lotus, and focuses on his "body". The
70 "digits" reformed, but he was still lacking toenails. (I'm too tired,
71 and I'm not content with my State of Being. I shall have to
72 return to a physical form soon, and reliquish my "body" of energy).
73 Still sitting in the lotus, he beings his breathing, then preperations,
74 and finally, locks his existence into being with a mantra. Sleep
75 ocassionally scared him with the prospect of disolving into electrons
76 or other such nonsense, but with the concentration (on the mantra)
77 and the relaxation of this "body" into a sphere, he was able to
78 sle, in a crude way. A sometimes painful way. But it worked.
79
80 * * *
81
82 Unlike most, Hagbard had to leave before he could complete his
83 tutorage at the monestary. It was an amazing and cheerful place -
84 Bhuddists, Yogis, Fakkirs, and the like, walking, thinking, and
85 rarely talking. Because of this, he is unable to complete higher
86 brain functions. When he returned, the monestary was razed to the ground
87 by a mob of soldiers. He fled Tibet, and seeked asylum in the
88 United States. Sometimes, uncommonly, he would privately mourn the
89 loss of his instructors and friends, but he could only stand at a
90 distance and contemplate, and soon enough, he would abandon the
91 thoughts to concentration on another obstacle. Namely, the
92 continuation of his instruction by the few in the U.S., but none
93 had the remaining training and he had already surpased all in this
94 respect. So, he remained, the last person to hold the understanding
95 of being, yet unable to affect it.
96 Such knowledge occationally burdoned him, yet he could handle this
97 by applying meta-programming, the ability to re-condition behavior at
98 will. It was the 6th highest, with 8 levels of knowledge already learned. Lit
99 (oops) little did he know that it was the last level, number 8.
100
101 A Tired Writer Says Goodnight, and
102
103 > > > At the top again!!!!! < < < ;-<)
104
105 H. Celine (Robert Shea, if you read this, forgive my trespass)
106
107 {}
004=Usr:4 Milchar 10/12/89 23:21 Msg:4462 Call:24624 Lines:13
108 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
109 I too missed the PCS Social. Unfortunately, moving woes and seemingly
110 impossible (yet tiny) problems at work (Test Director II-- just when
111 you thought it was safe to design tests) piled up on me the first week
112 of this month. I'll make it to the next one, however, or know the
113 reason why.
114 As for writing, I find that I am suffering from some sort of block, an
115 inability to sit down and let the mind roam free in search of ideas.
116 I haven't written anything in months; I feel I should- but somehow,
117 the words do not flow as they once did. It seems odd that I can know
118 of an inability but not know how to circumvent it. Perhaps a vacation?
119 I will have to devote much more thought toward producing an answer.
120 +++++++++++ Milchar, this evening of October 12th, 1989 A.D. ++++++++
005=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/13/89 09:05 Msg:4463 Call:24628 Lines:9
121 &*&*&*&*'s
122 Hagbard, thanks for the info. The need is not pressing right now, since
123 I lost the use of my internal floppy. A very frustrating experiance. The
124 upper head has a crack the size of the grand canyon in it.
125 Hmm, actually it is closer to a crevice then a crack.
126
127 An Astral Dreamer
128 &*&*&*&*'s
129
006=Usr:398 DELTA FIVE 10/14/89 03:41 Msg:4464 Call:24659 Lines:3
130
131
132 [*=*] DELTA FIVE IN LURK MODE AND UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF VILE ORANGE LIQUID
007=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/14/89 10:57 Msg:4465 Call:24662 Lines:7
133 %*)(@#_$%*$#)_^)_(^_)#($_)@^_) *^)_#($)_!_)#)%_$#%^()_$#^(#_^)_#^$_)^*$_)@(^@^_
134 Good heavens! VOL mentioned yet again. Will this villainous stuff ever go away?
135
136 DV: Did you receive my last communique? If not, perhaps the NET's net might
137 need a kick in the pants.
138 *$#_@%*)_#%)_#(%)_@$%()_#$@(% L'homme sans Parity *%@#()*%)_@($)_@!($!)_@($)_$(
139
008=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/15/89 11:48 Msg:4466 Call:24691 Lines:1
140 Is that NET Wits or nitwits?
009=Usr:4 Milchar 10/15/89 15:00 Msg:4467 Call:24693 Lines:2
141
142 WHO CARES? :-)
010=Usr:427 alyx * 10/15/89 19:49 Msg:4468 Call:24697 Lines:24
143 re: all this reminiscing...
144
145 as someone who doesn't have alot of time to spend bbs'ing, i've popped in
146 and out of bw and blue parrot. i always seem to drop by in the middle of
147 these 'remember when we..' and 'whatever happen to...' discussions. they're
148 rather intimidating in the sense that it seems to be assumed that the
149 new people could never hope to live up to those great times.
150
151 one thing that i have learned: each day is unique. and no matter how good
152 yesterday was, i am *here* today and it is up to me (and no one else) to
153 make *today* a good day.
154
155 sure, it's nice to remember the good times and to learn from the not so
156 good times but some people never seem to leave this mode and i have to
157 wonder, what are they doing to make today memorable.
158
159 each day is an exciting new possibility - what are doing to make your
160 dreams come true?
161
162 -all i ask for in this life
163 is to follow my dreams (i'm sure somebody said this or some-
164 thing close to it)
165
166 +++++++++++ alyx * ++++++++++ 15 october +++++++++ ~8pm +++++++++++++++
011=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/16/89 23:00 Msg:4469 Call:24728 Lines:12
167 &*&*&*&*'s
168 Looks like the old timer blues have snuck up and bit again. Don't let the
169 fact that you didn't log in to this board untill well after the fall
170 intimidate you. As has been said, everyday is a new begining, and no
171 matter how great a time people on this board had in the past, there is still
172 today. And nothing precludes us from making our own golden age.
173
174 An Astral Dreamer (Hoping the old timers help us in our quest for a second
175 golden age. So few people get to experience even one.)
176
177 &*&*&*&*'s
178
012=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/16/89 23:29 Msg:4470 Call:24729 Lines:30
179 696969696969
180 ATLANTIS COUNTDOWN BEGINS:-10/16/89
181 Monday begins the countdown for Tuesday's lift off of the shuttle Atlantis
182 and the Galileo probe to Jupiter. Blastoff of Atlantis is scheduled at Kennedy
183 Space Center at 12:57 p.m. EDT. Activists, unhappy with last week's ruling
184 that NASA could send the shuttle and its plutonium-powered cargo into space,
185 say they'll sit on the launch pad to prevent the takeoff.
186 SATELLITE HEADED FOR EARTH:-10/16/89
187 NASA says a 3-ton Solar Maximum satellite is about to fall out of Earth's
188 orbit. It will spread chunks of debris weighing 200 to 400 pounds into areas
189 under its re-entry flight path, reports Aviation Week and Space Technology.
190 This action is fueling more opposition to the launch of the nuclear-powered
191 Galileo spacecraft expected Monday.
192
193
194 HOMELESS NOT STUDIED PROPERLY:-10/16/89
195 The health problems of the homeless haven't been accurately studied,
196 reports Friday's Journal of the American Medical Association. Reason: Past
197 research focused only on residents of shelters, not those living in social
198 service centers or outdoors. A recent study said those in these places had
199 more evidence of physical illness.
200
201 GROUP RELEASES LIST:-10/16/89
202 The National Abortion Rights Action League released a list of officials,
203 who are against abortion, who it wants defeated. Included are: Sen. Jesse
204 Helms, R-N.C.; Rep. Craig James, R-Fla.; Rep. Denny Smith, R-Ore.; Rep. Tom
205 Tauke, R-Iowa; Florida Gov. Bob Martinez; Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller;
206 California state Rep. Curt Pringle and Pennsylvania state Rep. Stephen Friend.
207
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013=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/17/89 17:51 Msg:4471 Call:24746 Lines:2
209 Oh Boy! I hope it's another cartoon!
210 Oh, no, another crummy Newsreel! I *hate* the news!
014=Usr:25 Hi me 10/17/89 21:09 Msg:4472 Call:24747 Lines:1
211 7.0 on the Scale Quake.
015=Usr:3 Ramek 10/17/89 23:12 Msg:4473 Call:24754 Lines:26
212 California Fault-y Rich-ter Scale
213
214 3.0 - Motion comparable to upset stomach after bad burrito.
215 Freeways impassable.
216
217 4.0 - Slight fizz noticable in refrigerated mineral water.
218 Freeways impassable.
219
220 5.0 - Wine racks upset.
221 Freeways impassable.
222
223 6.0 - Difficult to jog. Whitecaps in hot tubs.
224 Freeways impassable.
225
226 7.0 - U-storage facilities collapse. Tsunamis in waterbeds.
227 Freeways impassable.
228
229 8.0 - RVs overturned. Suction-cup Garfields jarred off car windows.
230 Freeways impassable.
231
232 9.0 - Malls evacuated. Hackers notice movement.
233 Freeways beginning to clear.
234
235 10.0 - Jack-in-the-Box restaurants close.
236 Freeways clear.
237
016=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/18/89 22:10 Msg:4474 Call:24773 Lines:55
238 696969696969
239 10/18/89 By The Associated Press
240 Here is a summary of developments in the earthquake that rocked Northern
241 California Tuesday:
242 ------
243 THE QUAKE
244 The earthquake hit at 5:04 p.m. PDT, registering 6.9 on Richter scale, and
245 was centered on the San Andreas Fault about eight miles northeast of Santa Cruz
246 and 75 miles south of San Francisco.
247 ------
248 CASUALTIES
249 At least 272 people died, and 650 were injured. Of the dead, 253 were killed
250 when the upper level of two-tiered Interstate 880 in Oakland collapsed onto the
251 lower level.
252 ------
253 DAMAGE
254 The quake collapsed buildings, broke windows, and caused other damage across
255 nearly 100 miles.
256 Severed gas lines started fires. One spectacular fire in San Francisco burne
257 a block of buildings and another damaged downtown Berkeley.
258 Power, telephone, water and other services were disrupted for at least 1
259 million people.
260 The San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge and two bridges near Santa Cruz
261 collapsed. The San Mateo and Dumbarton bridges were closed for inspection.
262 Highways were damaged and mountain passes outside Santa Cruz were closed due
263 to landslides and fissures in the roads.
264 Lt. Gov. Leo McCarthy said damages would total "the better part of $1
265 billion."
266 ------
267 LOOTING
268 Some looting was reported in San Francisco and in Los Gatos, a town between
269 San Jose and Santa Cruz, but no arrests were made.
270 ------
271 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
272 President Bush signed a disaster relief declaration for seven counties in th
273 Bay area and dispatched Transportation Secretary Samuel Skinner to join Vice
274 President Quayle in California to assess damage.
275 Military officials mobilized National Guard units to aid the rescue.
276 The Federal Emergency Management Agency set up a disaster field office in Th
277 Presidio, an Army post in San Francisco.
278 Defense Secretary Dick Cheney ordered the armed forces to set up an emergenc
279 group to help coordinate aid efforts.
280 ------
281 WORLD REACTION
282 The Soviet Union made an unprecedented offer of relief aid and President
283 Mikhail S. Gorbachev sent condolences in a telegram to President Bush.
284 Offers of aid came from the Philippines, Japan, France, Britain, Switzerland
285 and several other nations.
286 Pope John Paul II was "deeply saddened" and praying for the victims.
287 ------
288 WORLD SERIES
289 Baseball fans awaiting the start of Game Three of the World Series evacuated
290 Candlestick Park, which sustained structural damage. No major injuries were
291 reported and there was no word on when the game would be played.
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017=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/19/89 00:51 Msg:4475 Call:24782 Lines:78
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294 10/17/89 By SALLY CARPENTER HALE Associated Press Writer
295 PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Opponents of U.S. military aid to Central America
296 demonstrated outside a hotel where Vice President Dan Quayle was speaking, and
297 21 people were arrested.
298 Several of those arrested were later injured in a traffic accident as they
299 were being taken to jail. Protester Robin Terry said the worst injury was a
300 broken leg and that all of the protesters had been released from a hospital by
301 today.
302 "There were about 200 protesters out there. I would say out of respect for
303 the office of vice president there should have been 500," Quayle quipped during
304 his appearance at a Republican fund-raiser at a downtown hotel.
305 Quayle's press secretary, David Beckwith, said it was the largest
306 demonstration against Quayle since he's been vice president and the only
307 demonstration that disrupted his schedule. Quayle left the hotel a half hour
308 late.
309 The protest began as a "die-in," with 11 demonstrators wearing red-stained
310 clothes lying on the sidewalk in front of the hotel.
311 When police asked them to move, the protesters tried to push their way
312 through the doors, chanting: "Bush, Quayle, we know you; Hitler was elected,
313 too."
314 Police used nightsticks to quell the demonstration. "It was hats and bats an
315 shoving and pushing," said a police officer who didn't give his name.
316 Earlier, Quayle dropped in at an FBI news conference to praise investigators
317 efforts in breaking up a drug ring.
318 "What you've been able to accomplish is part of the strategy of President
319 Bush in his war against drugs," he told law enforcement officers from several
320 agencies. "We're not going to give up until that war is won."
321 The news conference was called to announce the seizure of $150 million worth
322 of tar heroin and cocaine on the West Coast.
323 Isn't it interesting how the drug problem continues, but when the Republican
324 Boy is in town, they can manage to bust a major drug ring? Coincidence? Or
325 Political timing? Lee Atwater was unavailable for comment.
326
327 10/12/89: NASA CONFIRMS '89 OZONE HOLE MATCHES '87 RECORD
328 RELEASE: 89-160 (Update from release 89-152).
329
330 Continuing observations by the Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer (TOMS)
331 have confirmed that the ozone hole over the Antarctic this year has equalled
332 the record-setting hole observed in 1987, NASA scientists said.
333
334 Dr. Arlin Krueger, Dr. Richard Stolarski and Dr. Mark Schoeberl,
335 scientists at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., have been
336 closely monitoring ozone levels over the Southern Hemisphere with the TOMS, an
337 instrument on board NASA's NIMBUS-7 satellite.
338
339
340 Previous measurements had indicated this year's hole might
341
342 be as severe as the 1987 hole, and a record low ozone level was
343
344 reached on Oct. 5. Krueger, the TOMS prinicipal investigator,
345
346 said, "It's becoming clear that the ozone hole is not going away
347
348 in the near future, although the depth will vary from year to
349
350 year." The depth of the ozone hole each year will be determined
351
352 by meteorological conditions, such as temperature and winds.
353
354 RADAR THREATENS B-2 STEALTH:-10/13/89
355 Australian scientists say they've developed a radar system using long-wave
356 beams that can detect the radar-evading B-2 Stealth bombing. The Jindalee
357 radar system includes technology that could allow long- and short-range
358 detection and tracking of the Stealth, they say. Key: Jindalee capitalizes on
359 Stealth's air turbulence.
360 Australian scientists say they've developed a radar system using long-wave
361 beams that can detect the radar-evading B-2 Stealth bomber. The Jindalee radar
362 system includes technology that could allow long- and short-range detection
363 and tracking of the Stealth, they say. The U.S.'s $70 billion bomber program's
364 claim to be invincible could be threatened.
365 $600,000,000.00+ PER plane...for what???
366
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368
369 "Bush, Quayle, we know you, Reagan was elected too!"
370
018=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/20/89 11:44 Msg:4476 Call:24811 Lines:53
371 696969696969
372 10/19/89 By STEVE WILSTEIN Associated Press Writer
373 SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Mayor Art Agnos said he was "ticked off" that Vice
374 President Dan Quayle had time for television cameras but not for him during a
375 tour of earthquake-damaged areas of the city.
376 Quayle, who promised federal relief for earthquake victims after visiting th
377 Bay area Wednesday, today dismissed the liberal Democratic mayor's criticism.
378 "I would hope that the mayor would resist any kind of political rhetoric at
379 this time and concentrate all the energies and all of our dedication to helping
380 the victims and helping the families of the victims, and let's get the situatio
381 stabilized first," Quayle said on CBS's "This Morning."
382 And on NBC's "Today" show, he said that he thought it was "very unfortunate
383 to take that kind of a shot at a very difficult time. ... I was there to help
384 people."
385 Agnos said Wednesday he was "ticked off" that Quayle "flies around in a
386 helicopter, makes a bunch of television spots" but didn't meet with him. The
387 mayor had said before Quayle's visit that he planned to meet with Quayle to urg
388 immediate federal help.
389 "I understand he was in the Marina and in the shelters and then left. If he
390 did so without visiting the mayor, I have real questions about what he was doin
391 here. It may have been just a publicity stunt," Agnos said.
392 President Bush said today he would go to the Bay area on Friday and
393 presidential press secretary Marlin Fitzwater said Agnos would be invited to a
394 session between Bush and local officials.
395 Fitzwater denied that the Republican vice president had snubbed Agnos.
396 Agnos was invited to two meetings with Quayle "and he declined to attend bot
397 meetings," Fitzwater said.
398 Furthermore, "we offered to send a helicopter to pick him up wherever he was
399 and deliver him to the meetings and he declined that."
400 White House chief of staff John Sununu has "been trying to reach him on the
401 phone for several days and he has declined to talk to us," Fitzwater said. "We
402 regret very much that the mayor of San Francisco has decided not to cooperate
403 with us in this matter."
404 Quayle met with officials in Alameda County across San Francisco Bay to
405 assess the need for federal assistance.
406 On his tour, Quayle appeared stunned by the magnitude of damage and loss of
407 life inflicted by the temblor. Quayle and his wife, Marilyn, spent six hours
408 touring the area by helicopter and on foot after President Bush authorized
409 federal disaster assistance.
410 Upon his return to Washington late Wednesday, Quayle said that federal aid
411 would be forthcoming.
412 Quayle, accompanied by Transportation Secretary Samuel Skinner and Sen. Pete
413 Wilson, R-Calif., met with mayors of more than half a dozen cities around the
414 bay and emergency officials at the Alameda Naval Air Station.
415 "My impression was one of great sadness for the number of people that lost
416 their lives and the families that are impacted," Quayle said after seeing
417 crushed cars on collapsed portions of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge and
418 Interstate 880 in Oakland.
419 "You can't help but be impressed by the magnitude of the earthquake," he
420 said. "To see 880 flattened like a pancake, it's really a sobering sight."
421
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423
019=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/20/89 20:20 Msg:4477 Call:24839 Lines:20
424 &*&*&*&*'s
425 Just ducking in between the news postings. Looks like a down cycle right
426 now.
427
428 Interesting bit of trivia : Don't buy those bench marks that say the
429 '386sx is only about 90% as fast as an equivalent '286. If you put the
430 '386sx in virtual 8086 mode it is faster then an equivalent '386 in that
431 mode, and nearly as fast as a '386 running in '386 mode. Needless to say
432 it blows away an equivalent '286.
433
434 Note that chip revisions can lead to slight improvments in performance.
435 Thats probable why the '386sx is slightly faster then a '386 in non
436 32 bit tests. Newer 386's are probable as fast at the same clock rate
437 as the '386sx.
438
439 ch probable probably.
440
441 An Astral Dreamer
442 &*&*&*&*'s
443
020=Usr:333 Bartender Slug 10/20/89 23:28 Msg:4478 Call:24845 Lines:4
444 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
445 Slug lurked here
446 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
447
021=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/21/89 15:59 Msg:4479 Call:24858 Lines:14
448 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
449 AD: Thanks for breaking up the news stories. I must ask - what motivates a
450 person to continually post 50+ line messages STOLEN directly from the wire
451 services on a BBS where users have several times expressed in kind and not
452 so kind terms that THEY DON'T WANT THEM! Original political commentary is
453 always welcome, but copied stuff from other sources is highly frowned upon.
454
455 This news person has just ignored the pleas to cease and desist. Why? Even
456 they can come up with something better to write than someone else's writing.
457 This person must be doing the posts in spite, which is unforgivable.
458
459 At least THE SKULL was original!
460 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
461
022=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/22/89 13:15 Msg:4480 Call:24875 Lines:4
462 The skull may be original, but......
463
464 ZZTOP RULES!
465
023=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/22/89 14:57 Msg:4481 Call:24876 Lines:8
466 &*&*&*&*'s
467 Isn't the above ZZTOP RULES! a little small? I've heard the origional was
468 quite large. Maybe it's size is related to the rumored shrinking of
469 the universe...
470
471 An Astral Dreamer
472 &*&*&*&*'s
473
024=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/22/89 16:44 Msg:4482 Call:24877 Lines:73
474 696969696969
475 Technological failures Source: USA TODAY/Gannett National Information Network
476 The computerization age changed the way business was done: hand ledgers are
477 outdated and customers' names are recalled using a computer screen instead of
478 one's memory. The computer industry has been rocked in the last several weeks
479 by natural disasters.
480 HAS TECHNOLOGY BEEN DOUBTED?
481 The earthquake in Northern California, Hurricane Hugo and the threat of a
482 "Friday the 13th" computer virus showed the vulnerability of technology. Tari
483 Schneider, president of Contingency Planning Research Inc., a firm that sets
484 up backup computer sites for disaster victims, said the events shook the
485 computer industry.
486 WHY ARE COMPUTERS SO FRAGILE?
487 Computers and phones function by electrical wires that are susceptible to
488 nature. Wires above the ground are often the first to go in disasters.
489 HOW ABOUT WATER AS POWER?
490 The majority of the nation's 16,000 mainframe computers that run big banks
491 and brokerages are liquid-cooled, which means cold water is necessary to
492 operate them. If pipelines or underground tanks rupture, they can be knocked
493 out of service indefinitely.
494 WHAT EFFECT HAS NATURE HAD?
495 Nature's impact can range from minor to devastating. U.S. companies have
496 always been at the mercy of the natural elements: fire, water (floods), earth
497 (quakes) and air (hurricanes). Now that computers and phone networks are
498 essential to businesses, firms are at the mercy of a fifth: technology
499 outages.
500 DO FIRMS HAVE BACKUP PLANS?
501 Many firms in the nation set up backup computing centers called "hot sites."
502 These sometimes entombed sites contain computers that can take over data-
503 processing chores when disaster strikes.
504 ANY WORKING IN SAN FRANCISCO?
505 Yes, many took effect Wednesday when firms shifted their business centers.
506 One San Francisco bank is now running its data processing operations on
507 computers in Toronto.
508 HOW ABOUT SECURITY MEASURES?
509 Many of the sites that house main-frame computers are well-protected. In
510 Tulsa, American Airlines constructed a $34 million underground facility to
511 house its mainframes. The facility has a 42-inch-thick ceiling and 12-inch
512 thick concrete walls. Admittance is only granted after passing a "retina scan"
513 - a James Bond-like device that identifies you by scanning the blood vessels
514 in your eyes.
515 WHAT IS THE WORST OUTAGE?
516 When the telephone lines go, then a firm usually is in trouble because
517 computers can always run on a backup.
518 WHAT IS COST OF PHONE LOSS?
519 If the phones go down at a major airline or investment house, the losses can
520 be as great as $6 million an hour, says Donna Lee, director of network
521 operations at AT&T.
522 WHAT IS VULNERABLE?
523 All service operations - banks, insurance firms, newspapers -are vulnerable
524 to a telecommunications breakdown. Manufacturing firms also rely on phones to
525 order supplies for assembly.
526 WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF LINKING?
527 A local disaster can have rippleeffects nationwide because of the
528 interconnecting technologies. On May 8, 1988, fire struck a Hinsdale, Ill.,
529 telephone switching station. Suddenly, air-traffic controllers at O'Hare
530 Airport couldn't communicate with controllers in other cities. Flights were
531 delayed throughout the country. Unable to call in or out, Chicago-area
532 businesses lost an estimated $500 million in sales.
533 WHAT PROTECTION IS TAKEN?
534 AT&T routes its calls through 100 heavily protected switching stations,
535 housed in 200-foot square buildings. Just three stations serve the entire San
536 Francisco Bay area. Among other AT&T's defenses: double backups for every
537 switching center and computer systems that route long-distance calls through
538 any of 21 different pathways.
539
540 As Lee Atwater, chairman of the National Republican Committee said: "It is m
541 truly a shame that those who complain the loudest and most frequently about
542 other people's postings on Backwater, never post anything themselves, but
543 their complaints."
544
545 696969696969696969
546
025=Usr:333 Bartender Slug 10/22/89 21:58 Msg:4483 Call:24882 Lines:4
547 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
548 Lee Atwater said something about Backwater? I didn't know he knew about us.
549 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Slug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
550
026=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/23/89 19:02 Msg:4484 Call:24902 Lines:29
551 &*&*&*&*'s
552 More on the '386sx. I'm not sure that the virtual 8086 mode explains
553 the speed of the '386sx.
554
555 At work I recently got a tandy 4000sx. Out of the box it ran at about
556 15.2 MHZ relative to a '286. Sort of slow, but much faster then the
557 vanila 6MHZ True IBM AT I had been using. About a week after getting
558 it I ran setupsx, which is the sx specific version of the standard dos
559 setup. (Atleast for tandy 4000sx's) At about the same time I also
560 got the upgrade to the turbo debuger and turbo Pascal. Once they where
561 installed I set my computer up to use the debuger. (I have multiple
562 enviorments, as some of the software I use conflicts with other
563 software.) This meant that I loaded the boreland virtual 8086 driver.
564 At about that time I ran some benchmarks. Suddenly I was getting a
565 17.6 on the norton SI index, and around 43 MHZ relative to an 8088.
566 Of course I attributed it to the virtual 8086 mode.
567
568 This morning I went in to work, booted up my computer and noticed that
569 it had slowed back down to the more ussual 15.2 or so MHZ relative to
570 a '286. So on a hunch I ran setupsx again. Bingo, it was in turbo mode
571 upon reboot.
572
573 Now I can't argue with the performance increase, but I really do wonder
574 where it's coming from. It's as real as about 6 different bench marks
575 can prove. So, Any ideas?
576
577 An Astral Dreamer
578 &*&*&*&*'s
579
027=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/23/89 21:35 Msg:4485 Call:24907 Lines:24
580 696969696969
581 CONTRA REBELS KILL 18:-10/23/89
582 Contra rebels killed 18 and wounded eight when they ambushed trucks that
583 were transporting soldiers. Nicaragua said the attack was part of a campaign
584 aimed at disrupting the electoral process. The last day for 1.3 million to
585 register to vote in February elections was Sunday.
586 (Contras were supposedly "on Hold" until at least after the elections.
587 Could it be that the "covert" operations of the Reagan/Bush agenda continue?)
588
589 TOPIC - PRESIDENT BUSH'S VETO ON ABORTION:
590 Barbara Boxer, Democratic congresswoman from California, and Dennis L.
591 Cuddy, free-lance writer, discuss their views.
592 CUDDY: "President Bush is right to veto federal funding of abortions in
593 case of rape or incest. ... Bush must veto abortion funding because not to do
594 so would mean government would be imposing a `pro-choice' morality upon the
595 many taxpayers who don't want their money used for this killing." (What about
596 those taxpayers that object to the B-2 bomber or the Contras being supported
597 with their tax money? Isn't a "killing morality" being forced on them?)
598 BOXER: "President Bush's veto is the height of hypocrisy. ... The president
599 has endorsed a double standard based on wealth, connections and power. ... It
600 is bad policy, bad politics and bad news."
601
602 696969696969696969
603
028=Usr:47 John Dilks 10/23/89 23:06 Msg:4486 Call:24912 Lines:16
604 You call entering 100+ lines of regurgitated news every day a "posting???"
605 Bah! It is a waste of valuable space. Have you considered that maybe the
606 reason the regulars have stoped posting is because they are sick and tired
607 of wading through 100's of lines of news garbage every day? Trying to find
608 a story in the middle of that mess and holding a visualization of what is
609 happening is hardly a simple task. I suspect that the others like me have
610 given up. What's the point in trying to enter something when it gets lost
611 in the middle of back to back news garbage. Do you realize that most of
612 this disk is nothing but your regurgitated news? Of course no one is posting
613 who could find anything in that mess?
614 Personally I wish that Mikey would remove the news junk. I consider it a
615 waste of space and a degradation of BW. I suspect that others feel the
616 same way since they seem to have given up on BW. It reminds me of the
617 twits on the CB bands that turn their radio on to a radio station all
618 day long. Yet anpther form of vandlism. Hey! Let's ruin it for everyone!
619 --------------------------john -----------------------------------------
029=Usr:333 Bartender Slug 10/23/89 23:32 Msg:4487 Call:24913 Lines:5
620
621 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
622 I agree with John. That is why I left for like 3 months. Too much garbage.
623 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Slug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
624
030=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 10/24/89 02:01 Msg:4488 Call:24915 Lines:31
625 {}
626
627 To the creature that posts repeat news found on CNN:
628
629 In an effort of good faith and utter hopelessness, I ask kindly that
630 you limit yourself to 3 "small" news postings (10-20 lines per post), or
631 2 "medium" postings (20-30 lines), or 1 "large" posting (less than 60
632 lines) per disk. I myself find the newservice sometimes annoying, but
633 I ask that you observe your behavior, and learn a new word:
634 "moderation". In moderation, along with occassional (sp) tact, you will
635 find a greater acceptance of your work(?) in a place where most work
636 is inspirational, ad hoc, sharing, witty, and caring, and otherwise
637 enjoyable to the avid reader. There is nothing wrong with the
638 news, nor is there a problem with posing questions with the day's
639 events. But if BackWater is interested enough, it would have its
640 OWN live newsfeed to share with its users. (pardon grammar)
641
642 If you wish to catch the fancy of the passer-by, try posting a
643 question(able) line after each news posting, or a witty response. I
644 think you will probably find many people paying much more attention to
645 you than you would expect. Now before my nose clogs from hanging
646 so high in the air, I'll sneeze this to you with politeness:
647
648 GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER. This is a shared board. Try sharing YOU,
649 NOT someone else.
650
651 Thank you kindly for your attention.
652
653 A Confused, Tired Hagbard
654
655 {}
031=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/24/89 02:25 Msg:4489 Call:24916 Lines:100
656 696969696969
657 10/22/89 By MITCHELL LANDSBERG Associated Press Writer
658 In a simpler time, not so long ago, environmentalists talked about saving
659 forests for hiking, streams for rafting and clean air for the pure enjoyment of
660 breathing it.
661 Now, as the 1990s approach, the talk has turned to the science of survival -
662 saving forests for oxygen, keeping streams from spreading toxic pollutants,
663 cleaning the air to avoid catastrophic global warming.
664 From the hazy vantage point of 1989, the environment looms as the major
665 global issue of the next decade. The threat of an environmental cataclysm is
666 replacing nuclear holocaust as the scariest menace to civilization.
667 The World Bank, long dismissed by environmentalists as ecologically
668 insensitive, now calls the environment its leading priority for the 1990s.
669 President Bush called the '90s "the era for clean air."
670 And the Worldwatch Institute, an environmental research organization, calls
671 the 1990s "the turnaround decade" in which people will either stop polluting or
672 face an environmental disaster as devastating as nuclear war.
673 "By many measures, time is running out," Worldwatch warned in its "State of
674 the World 1989" report.
675 Not everyone shares Worldwatch's apocalyptic vision, which is based largely
676 on the threat of global warming -- the "greenhouse effect." Many respected
677 scientists say the available evidence doesn't warrant the doomsday warnings.
678 But few doubt that environmental issues will be paramount in the coming
679 years. If nothing else, the '90s are likely to be a decade of unprecedented
680 research into environmental problems as scientists try to solve 19th- and 20th-
681 century problems before people start mucking up the 21st.
682 The environmental agenda in the '90s will include:
683 --Clean air. Perhaps no environmental issue will be as sharply felt. In Los
684 Angeles, authorities will try to change a way of life by starting to wean
685 commuters off gasoline-powered automobiles in the 1990s. The rest of the nation
686 undoubtedly will follow that lead. Already, a congressional committee has voted
687 to adopt California's tough new standards for anti-pollution equipment on cars.
688 --Ozone depletion. In cities, ozone is a toxic pollutant spewed out by cars,
689 but high in the atmosphere it's a vital gas shielding the Earth from dangerous
690 ultraviolet rays. That shield is being destroyed by yet another human pollutant
691 -- chlorofluorocarbons -- and the consequences are expected to include increase
692 rates of skin cancer and cataracts.
693 --Extinction of species. Largely because of the burning of tropical rain
694 forests, entire species of animals, plants and insects are becoming extinct at
695 the fastest rate in human history.
696 All these concerns will be secondary, however, to the one overriding issue
697 that touches them all -- global warming.
698 The greenhouse theory has been around for two centuries, but suddenly became
699 the stuff of newspaper headlines during the hot, dry summer of 1988 in the
700 United States.
701 The idea is that certain gases in the atmosphere act like the glass on a
702 greenhouse. They let sunlight in, but won't let its heat out. The biggest
703 villain is carbon dioxide, which is released when trees are destroyed and when
704 fossil fuels such as oil or coal are burned.
705 Scientists almost universally agree that the gases will cause the Earth to
706 get warmer. "The greenhouse effect is not a hypothesis or anything; it's one of
707 the best-established facts about the way the world works," said Gus Steth,
708 president of the World Resources Institute.
709 That's where the agreement ends; the fights begin when experts try to guess
710 when the warming will occur and how bad it will be.
711 Some, such as Stephen Schneider, deputy director of the National Center for
712 Atmospheric Research, argue that the greenhouse effect has already begun and
713 will have devastating effects in the next century unless radical action is
714 taken.
715 Without such action, Schneider envisions a starkly different world by the
716 middle of the next century, one in which the average global temperature will
717 have risen by as much as 9 degrees Fahrenheit.
718 Oceans would rise, deserts would spread, forests would die. People would
719 starve.
720 "Such a change," Schneider wrote recently in Scientific American magazine,
721 "would be unprecedented in human history; it would match the (9-degree) warming
722 since the peak of the last ice age 18,000 years ago but would take effect
723 between 10 and 100 times faster."
724 It's too late to stop the warming altogether, Schneider argues, but the wors
725 of it could be averted if people cut back drastically in their use of fossil
726 fuels and stopped destroying rain forests.
727 Other scientists believe such warnings are premature.
728 Richard Lindzen, a meteorology professor at the Massachusetts Institute of
729 Technology, argues that climate scientists are operating in a vacuum, not a
730 greenhouse. He said they lack the facts to back up claims about global warming.
731 "You know very well we can't predict the weather with any certainty," Lindze
732 said with a chuckle.
733 His forecast for the '90s: continued scientific fogginess with a chance of
734 clearing by the end of the decade.
735 Schneider's forecast is considerably more ominous.
736 "Six of the warmest years in the last 100 occurred in the '80s," he said
737 recently at a meeting of chemists in Miami. "And I'll give you odds that the
738 '90s will be warmer than the '80s."
739 That sort of prognosticating doesn't impress the greenhouse skeptics.
740 "Nobody in their right mind would make a forecast like that," said Andrew
741 Solow, a climate statistician at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in
742 Massachusetts. "There's just no way you can make that claim."
743 Solow said he has pored over the statistics and cannot find any basis for
744 claims that the greenhouse effect has begun. The warmer temperatures in the
745 1980s, he believes, are probably part of a natural upswing; the greenhouse
746 effect could be centuries off.
747 What if the heat continues, if temperature records continue to topple throug
748 the 1990s, if Schneider's forecast comes true? Would he become a believer then?
749 "I'd be pretty convinced," Solow said.
750
751 As Lee Atwater may have once said: "It is interesting that those who
752 protest the loudest, longest, and most frequently are those who apparently
753 are unable to read. And they seem to have difficulty distinguishing fantasy
754 from fact. I have trouble following stories that aren't going on too."
755 696969696969696969
032=Usr:232 bob lindski 10/24/89 10:34 Msg:4490 Call:24923 Lines:6
756 ????//////
757 bty 69/ where did you get you obscene name? ////???
758 What is the liability of the cistop for infringement of
759 AP/ CNN copyright for what obscene act was dumping on
760 this board?
761 ????/////
033=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/24/89 13:12 Msg:4491 Call:24925 Lines:8
762 &*&*&*&*'s
763 Hagbard, sorry I missed you on reed. I've been having computer problems.
764 Will we ever see you return here on a regular basis?
765
766 An Astral Dreamer
767 &*&*&*&*'s
768
769
034=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/24/89 16:01 Msg:4492 Call:24930 Lines:14
770 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
771 Just in case the news scrolled off the last entry in the Quantier Saga before
772 you had a chance to see it, we have an update as follows.
773
774 Friar: At present, you're recuperating at the (mysterious) new inn (Inn?) that
775 seems to have sprung up somewhere beyond the limits of the Central City.
776 A severely injured Cloaked Man has, however, quickly located you from the
777 emanations of the Quantier, and should arrive at your abode within seconds,
778 thanks to his FTLP (Faster than Light Porter). The ball is in your court,
779 and if I were yyou, I'd hurry. There are some ominous rumblings to be heard
780 from the Stone Triangle, and if what 69 says is true, the Pool may have fallen
781 prey to the Greenhouse Effect!
782
783 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
035=Usr:53 prince dragon 10/24/89 20:56 Msg:4493 Call:24934 Lines:16
784 to: the thing that is posting all the news.
785 flame mode *ON*
786 LOOK I HAVE BEEN ON THE BB'S FOR 12 YEARS AND YOU JUST ABOUT TAKE THE
787 CAKE!!!!!! you have a lot of the old timers and some of the new one
788 mad,you are making ONE of my fav bb's a living h*ll,
789 if you need to post like this I WILL PAY FOR YOU TO GET ON USENET
790 then you should realy go to a grp there called alt.flame
791 I have said thing there about you.
792 there are over 500+ grp there and 100,000+ of people you can
793 p*ss off *GO AWAY* (am so mad I almost used the {t}word)
794 flame mode off
795 everone but you know who; I got it lets give it it's own
796 comp.bbs and then not call it ...
797 sorry all but I read usenet 4 hours a day and want to see other
798 things here.
799 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.dragon@agora
036=Usr:286 Jeff Marten 10/25/89 01:41 Msg:4494 Call:24940 Lines:54
800
801
802 {+}{+}{+}{+}
803
804 OPEN LETTER
805 TO
806 JIM BAKKER
807
808
809 October 25, 1989
810
811 Dear Jim,
812
813 Gosh, that was a tough break you got at the sentencing
814 hearing yesterday. Fourty-five years is a pretty stiff
815 sentence for a man with so many nice suits - especially after
816 you insisted so strenuously that you were innocent and that
817 God had forgiven you. Come to think of it...if you WERE
818 innocent, then why would God NEED to forgive you? No matter.
819 Once the hog came out of the tunnel it was clear to everyone
820 that God Almighty and Judge "Maximum Bob" Potter have been
821 working from completely different agendas all along.
822
823 Prison life will definitely be a change of pace, Jim.
824 People in there will say things to yohthat are not polite,
825 and they may neglect to use the title "Reverend". Chit-chat
826 out in the exercise yard may go something more along the
827 lines of : "Hey! Preacher Boy! Yew gotta pretty little mouth,
828 anybody ever tole yew that? C'mon over here. Hey!" If you
829 thought bending over for strip searches in the Federal
830 Psychiatric Hospital was unsavory, wait till "Bubba" from
831 Cellblock D decides to make you his personal houseboy. "Turn
832 the other cheek" takes on a whole new meaning in the dark
833 world of federal corrections, and it's not something you'll
834 want to base a sermon on.
835
836 { Try not to fret too much, Jim. A fourty-five year sentence
837 isn't that bad - except for that unfortunate ten year
838 minimum. Bummer. You may see some cold-blooded murderers get
839 paroled before you do, but so what? Maybe by then you'll be
840 buddies and they'll make phone calls for you when they get
841 outside. You'll surely get paroled after your full "dime of
842 hard time" is served...if you mind your manners.
843
844 So cheer up, Jim, and look at the bright side - you won't
845 have to wake up next to Tammy Faye again until late 1999.
846
847 Sincerely,
848
849 ThingFish
850
851
852 {+}{+}{+}{+}
853
037=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 10/25/89 08:32 Msg:4495 Call:24942 Lines:5
854 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
855 Zephyr-
856 Thanks for the nudge. I will post later this week.
857 Friar
858 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
038=Usr:232 bob lindski 10/25/89 10:25 Msg:4496 Call:24944 Lines:8
859 .........................<
860 ThingFish: If airlines could get away with overbooking,
861 Why can't Jim Bakker do it without being
862 penalized ? Is it beacause the media or the
863 closed conglomerates that owned it are on
864 Bakker-bashing frenzy?
865 Bob the Fish
866 .........................>
039=Usr:427 alyx * 10/25/89 12:36 Msg:4497 Call:24946 Lines:12
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868
869 Friar-
870 Long time to 'talk'. How's the licensing going? Mine is on hold
871 for an indeterminate amount of time. HORSES is where it's at
872 for me.
873
874 Keep in touch, you hear?
875
876 Alyx *
877 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
878
040=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/25/89 15:26 Msg:4498 Call:24950 Lines:3
879 ZOD LLIIVESS---LURK LURK -LURK---I'D WREITE SOMETHING BUT I DON'T GO NO IDEAS
880 RIGHT NOW CAUS I'M SO P*SSED.....LONG LIVE LORD ZOD....(this is so much better)
881
041=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 10/25/89 15:44 Msg:4499 Call:24951 Lines:29
882 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
883 Mein Gott! I have written something that won't fit in the 33 lines
884 remaining. So I will ramble instead.
885 Alyx-
886 Good to hear from you again. I am flying that same plane, with that same
887 instructor. The license is almost over. Just one prep lesson and one
888 test to go. And the baby is due Thursday.
889 Friar
890 OK newsman, you can fill up the disk. I for one don't mind the news,
891 especially the Lee Atwater quotes. I would rather have stories, but it
892 doesn't seem as though you are actually displacing anything, though. I
893 am curious just what Liability Mikey has for leaving what would apparently
894 be copyrighted material on the board.
895 I just finished reading SYSLAW, on Leonard's reccomendation. So I think
896 it is an area of concern to most sysops, or should be. I am setting up
897 a board for BPers, and wanted to get the total picture, or at least as
898 total as I could.
899 What do you folks think about a sysops rights and responsibilities? Are
900 they different from publishers? Editors? News reporters? How are they
901 similar? There is no common law body as yet to determine precedent, so
902 should sufficient totrt law be developed, or should examples of non-
903 electronic media case law be twisted to adapt?
904 Mikey- Please give your views, including the reasons for the caveats on
905 the top of the disk.
906 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
907 OK, how come I only had 33 lines left when there are almost a hundred
908 left now ?!?!?!?!? Inquiring minds want to know!
909 [][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar
910
042=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/25/89 18:52 Msg:4500 Call:24953 Lines:5
911
912
913 Hate to tell you, Zod, but Superman murdered all the Phantom Zone villains some
914 time ago. When you're up to date, get back to us. Oh, that's right.
915 One Line Remaining.
043=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/25/89 23:45 Msg:4501 Call:24960 Lines:3
916@Mikey, is there anything you can do about this news-asshole? Note
917@the poor attempt at being a twit with the ZOD stuff. Ralphie is a real
918@jerk!
044=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/25/89 23:56 Msg:4502 Call:24961 Lines:11
919@I know, it's starting to turn ugely. Sigh... I had hoped to avoid that.
920@The guy is not taking the hint. I asked him to use a bit of moderation,
921@but instead he has just increased his activity. I want to avoid cutting
922@him off completely bcause that will only antagonize him further and
923@just make matters worse. The news was OK as long as it was only once
924@a disk, but this is getting rediculous. I can reduce how much he can upload
925@per day. Right now it is 100 lines, I think I may reduce that to 50 lines
926@and see if he takes the hint. Probably what is really needed here is
927@a maximum number of lines allowed per disk rather than per day. Maybe I
928@could add that in on a per user basis. Something like at level zero you
929@get 100 lines per disk.
045=Usr:13 voyeur 10/26/89 01:54 Msg:4503 Call:24963 Lines:11
930@Oh Wow, hidden messages! This is even better than NetCode Level 5!
931@I've been wondering about 'god' level editing (i.e. TRuncation) of Steadman's
932@stuff, since there doesn't seem to be *anyone* in favor of his reposted news.
933@The closest to a positive review was just above - friar's neutral stance.
934@(and like friar, I feel that the Atwater Quotes are the only redeeming material
935@). Oh yes, Steve - my neighbor is running a bit behind on his writing. He
936@just started working full time again this past Monday, which cuts into his
937@creative time. He says he hopes to work on it properly this weekend, and may
938@have something ready to upload Sundayish. He won't let me see it, so I don't
939@know what he's up to. Hopefully we can push Steadman off via volume rather
940@than brute force. You know, I bet if I had that '386 I could write faster too.
046=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/26/89 17:43 Msg:4504 Call:24980 Lines:7
941 &*&*&*&*'s
942 Gee, I offer an alternative to the news and I get no input. I guess I'll
943 take my hardware musings elsewhere. :-|
944
945 An Astral Dreamer
946 &*&*&*&*'s
947
047=Usr:427 alyx * 10/26/89 22:02 Msg:4505 Call:24985 Lines:23
948
949 +#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#
950
951 i'm not sure what you guys are counting down from but according
952 to my calculations, there are 49 lines left from here... i won't
953 try to fill them.
954
955 if i wanted to read news, i'd buy a newspaper, not dial a bbs.
956 for those with usenet access, how's alt.prose going?
957
958 sysops have a unique responsibility. i don't see how they can
959 be responsible for what others write on their boards. however,
960 they are responsible for allowing continued access to those who
961 choose to abuse the privelege of having an account. i have yet
962 to be on any kind of computer system where it is absolutely
963 impossible to trace the origin of any kind of 'prank' or law
964 breaking.
965
966 i have in the past posted copyrighted stuff to usenet but in
967 limited situations and i make it clear that i am doing so without
968 permission. i don't do it indiscriminately.
969
970
048=Usr:286 Jeff Marten 10/27/89 05:15 Msg:4506 Call:24990 Lines:16
971
972
973 {+}{+}{+}{+}
974
975 To : "Bob" The Fish
976
977 An interesting and provocative statement there with all that
978 stuff about Bakker VS/ The Airlines...you don't suppose this
979 could fire a debate...an informed discussion..something
980 interesting on the ole' BKW.....NHAAAAAAA.....
981
982 -+|[ ThingFish ]|+-
983 Never Mind
984
985 {+}{+}{+}{+}
986
049=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/27/89 19:55 Msg:4507 Call:25008 Lines:13
987 S&M S&M S&M S&M S&M S&M
988 10/27/89 - TICKER TAPE FLOODS BACKWATER, AUTHORS PANIC!
989
990 In a bold move today, an unarmed assailant burst into the Backwater
991 Message System, carrying only a large ticker tape machine. Threatening the
992 authors present with a magnet, he promptly set up the machine and began a
993 steady flow of ticker tape news items throughout the entire network of BWMS,
994 utterly clogging literary traffic for days.
995 "We just weren't expecting something like that tever happen," one
996 anonymouus writer commented during routin questioning. "I mean, look, usually
997 we get a few hack authors, but nothing this dramatic. You'd think there'd be
998 a law against something like this."
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