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001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19
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1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2$************************* INSTALLED: 11 OCT 89 ***************************
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3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator
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4$**************************************************************************
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5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately
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8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general
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9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the
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10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all
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11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the
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12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data
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13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out
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14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering
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15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to
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16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up.
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17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18$**************************************************************************
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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/12/89 00:28 Msg:4460 Call:24594 Lines:2
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20 He that is too secure is not safe. -- Thomas Fuller
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21 ******************************************************************
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003=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 10/12/89 02:40 Msg:4461 Call:24595 Lines:86
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22 {}
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24 Something shall happen soon. Always seems that when things are best,
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25 a disturbance comes from no-where.
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26
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27 AD, hope you caught my message - there are 680x0's availible.
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28 Last time I saw the price of a 68010, it was roughtly $20-$25. May
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29 seem spendy, but it may be worth it in the long run (for only a
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30 5% speed increase on the same clock? Who am I kidding?...)
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31 but a 68000 will run you for $12.00, and several are availible from
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32 third party venders. A word of warning! Some third-party chip
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33 fabricators do not pass as 100% functional! I remember (somewhere)
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34 reading about how a licenced manf. had the rights to fabricate
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35 "work-alike" chips, but there was something apperently wrong with
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36 the actual masks themselves, so several hundred thousand 68000
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37 chips came out with "reliability" problems. Some would crash any
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38 system they were installed on with bus errors, etc. - again, something
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39 to do with the internal electronics and the bus handling. The
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40 problem was quickly remedied, as I recall. As for a source, try:
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41 JDR Microdevices, 110 Knowles Drive, Los Gatos, CA 95030
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42 Phone: (408) 866-6200
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43 Retail Store: 1256 South Bascom Ave., San Jose CA (408) 947-8881
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44 Hours: M-F 9-7 Sat 9-5 Sun 12-4
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45 Quote for Nov '88 _$9.95_ (sorry about the age of the quote, best
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46 I can do. But they have carried the line
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47 off and on for a few years. Used to have
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48 a special on 12Mhz 68020's @ around $130)
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49
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50 ... also ...
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52 Advanced Computer Products, Inc.
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53 Mail Order: PO Box 17329 Irvine CA 92713 Phone: 1-800-FONE-ACP
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54 Again, Quote for Nov '88 _$12.95_
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56 Hope that helps. Both also cater to memory chips, Itty Bitty Machine
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57 chips (808x family), and much more. Grab an issue of Byte and
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58 turn way to the back (if you can call these _slabs of paper_ magazine
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59 issues), and hunt before and after the yellow classifieds.
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60
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61 * * *
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62
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63 He was tired. The "day" had seemed long, but it bothered him
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64 little. Sleep was the gremlin in is mind, not boredom - so he
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65 considered bedding down. He also knew that in a few minutes, his
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66 mind would suddenly awake, to find a body exhausted and in slight pain.
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67 His concentration was lapsing - which ment that he was now floating -
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68 causing him to ooze here and there, especially at his digits. Regaining
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69 composture, he sits into the lotus, and focuses on his "body". The
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70 "digits" reformed, but he was still lacking toenails. (I'm too tired,
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71 and I'm not content with my State of Being. I shall have to
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72 return to a physical form soon, and reliquish my "body" of energy).
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73 Still sitting in the lotus, he beings his breathing, then preperations,
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74 and finally, locks his existence into being with a mantra. Sleep
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75 ocassionally scared him with the prospect of disolving into electrons
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76 or other such nonsense, but with the concentration (on the mantra)
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77 and the relaxation of this "body" into a sphere, he was able to
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78 sle, in a crude way. A sometimes painful way. But it worked.
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79
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80 * * *
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81
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82 Unlike most, Hagbard had to leave before he could complete his
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83 tutorage at the monestary. It was an amazing and cheerful place -
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84 Bhuddists, Yogis, Fakkirs, and the like, walking, thinking, and
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85 rarely talking. Because of this, he is unable to complete higher
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86 brain functions. When he returned, the monestary was razed to the ground
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87 by a mob of soldiers. He fled Tibet, and seeked asylum in the
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88 United States. Sometimes, uncommonly, he would privately mourn the
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89 loss of his instructors and friends, but he could only stand at a
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90 distance and contemplate, and soon enough, he would abandon the
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91 thoughts to concentration on another obstacle. Namely, the
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92 continuation of his instruction by the few in the U.S., but none
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93 had the remaining training and he had already surpased all in this
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94 respect. So, he remained, the last person to hold the understanding
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95 of being, yet unable to affect it.
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96 Such knowledge occationally burdoned him, yet he could handle this
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97 by applying meta-programming, the ability to re-condition behavior at
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98 will. It was the 6th highest, with 8 levels of knowledge already learned. Lit
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99 (oops) little did he know that it was the last level, number 8.
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101 A Tired Writer Says Goodnight, and
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102
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103 > > > At the top again!!!!! < < < ;-<)
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104
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105 H. Celine (Robert Shea, if you read this, forgive my trespass)
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107 {}
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004=Usr:4 Milchar 10/12/89 23:21 Msg:4462 Call:24624 Lines:13
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108 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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109 I too missed the PCS Social. Unfortunately, moving woes and seemingly
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110 impossible (yet tiny) problems at work (Test Director II-- just when
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111 you thought it was safe to design tests) piled up on me the first week
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112 of this month. I'll make it to the next one, however, or know the
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113 reason why.
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114 As for writing, I find that I am suffering from some sort of block, an
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115 inability to sit down and let the mind roam free in search of ideas.
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116 I haven't written anything in months; I feel I should- but somehow,
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117 the words do not flow as they once did. It seems odd that I can know
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118 of an inability but not know how to circumvent it. Perhaps a vacation?
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119 I will have to devote much more thought toward producing an answer.
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120 +++++++++++ Milchar, this evening of October 12th, 1989 A.D. ++++++++
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005=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/13/89 09:05 Msg:4463 Call:24628 Lines:9
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121 &*&*&*&*'s
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122 Hagbard, thanks for the info. The need is not pressing right now, since
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123 I lost the use of my internal floppy. A very frustrating experiance. The
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124 upper head has a crack the size of the grand canyon in it.
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125 Hmm, actually it is closer to a crevice then a crack.
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126
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127 An Astral Dreamer
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128 &*&*&*&*'s
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129
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006=Usr:398 DELTA FIVE 10/14/89 03:41 Msg:4464 Call:24659 Lines:3
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132 [*=*] DELTA FIVE IN LURK MODE AND UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF VILE ORANGE LIQUID
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007=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/14/89 10:57 Msg:4465 Call:24662 Lines:7
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133 %*)(@#_$%*$#)_^)_(^_)#($_)@^_) *^)_#($)_!_)#)%_$#%^()_$#^(#_^)_#^$_)^*$_)@(^@^_
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134 Good heavens! VOL mentioned yet again. Will this villainous stuff ever go away?
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136 DV: Did you receive my last communique? If not, perhaps the NET's net might
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137 need a kick in the pants.
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138 *$#_@%*)_#%)_#(%)_@$%()_#$@(% L'homme sans Parity *%@#()*%)_@($)_@!($!)_@($)_$(
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008=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/15/89 11:48 Msg:4466 Call:24691 Lines:1
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140 Is that NET Wits or nitwits?
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009=Usr:4 Milchar 10/15/89 15:00 Msg:4467 Call:24693 Lines:2
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141
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142 WHO CARES? :-)
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010=Usr:427 alyx * 10/15/89 19:49 Msg:4468 Call:24697 Lines:24
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143 re: all this reminiscing...
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144
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145 as someone who doesn't have alot of time to spend bbs'ing, i've popped in
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146 and out of bw and blue parrot. i always seem to drop by in the middle of
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147 these 'remember when we..' and 'whatever happen to...' discussions. they're
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148 rather intimidating in the sense that it seems to be assumed that the
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149 new people could never hope to live up to those great times.
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150
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151 one thing that i have learned: each day is unique. and no matter how good
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152 yesterday was, i am *here* today and it is up to me (and no one else) to
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153 make *today* a good day.
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155 sure, it's nice to remember the good times and to learn from the not so
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156 good times but some people never seem to leave this mode and i have to
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157 wonder, what are they doing to make today memorable.
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158
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159 each day is an exciting new possibility - what are doing to make your
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160 dreams come true?
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161
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162 -all i ask for in this life
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163 is to follow my dreams (i'm sure somebody said this or some-
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164 thing close to it)
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165
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166 +++++++++++ alyx * ++++++++++ 15 october +++++++++ ~8pm +++++++++++++++
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011=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/16/89 23:00 Msg:4469 Call:24728 Lines:12
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167 &*&*&*&*'s
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168 Looks like the old timer blues have snuck up and bit again. Don't let the
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169 fact that you didn't log in to this board untill well after the fall
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170 intimidate you. As has been said, everyday is a new begining, and no
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171 matter how great a time people on this board had in the past, there is still
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172 today. And nothing precludes us from making our own golden age.
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173
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174 An Astral Dreamer (Hoping the old timers help us in our quest for a second
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175 golden age. So few people get to experience even one.)
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176
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177 &*&*&*&*'s
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178
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012=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/16/89 23:29 Msg:4470 Call:24729 Lines:30
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179 696969696969
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180 ATLANTIS COUNTDOWN BEGINS:-10/16/89
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181 Monday begins the countdown for Tuesday's lift off of the shuttle Atlantis
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182 and the Galileo probe to Jupiter. Blastoff of Atlantis is scheduled at Kennedy
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183 Space Center at 12:57 p.m. EDT. Activists, unhappy with last week's ruling
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184 that NASA could send the shuttle and its plutonium-powered cargo into space,
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185 say they'll sit on the launch pad to prevent the takeoff.
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186 SATELLITE HEADED FOR EARTH:-10/16/89
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187 NASA says a 3-ton Solar Maximum satellite is about to fall out of Earth's
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188 orbit. It will spread chunks of debris weighing 200 to 400 pounds into areas
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189 under its re-entry flight path, reports Aviation Week and Space Technology.
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190 This action is fueling more opposition to the launch of the nuclear-powered
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191 Galileo spacecraft expected Monday.
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192
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194 HOMELESS NOT STUDIED PROPERLY:-10/16/89
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195 The health problems of the homeless haven't been accurately studied,
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196 reports Friday's Journal of the American Medical Association. Reason: Past
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197 research focused only on residents of shelters, not those living in social
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198 service centers or outdoors. A recent study said those in these places had
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199 more evidence of physical illness.
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200
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201 GROUP RELEASES LIST:-10/16/89
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202 The National Abortion Rights Action League released a list of officials,
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203 who are against abortion, who it wants defeated. Included are: Sen. Jesse
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204 Helms, R-N.C.; Rep. Craig James, R-Fla.; Rep. Denny Smith, R-Ore.; Rep. Tom
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205 Tauke, R-Iowa; Florida Gov. Bob Martinez; Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller;
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206 California state Rep. Curt Pringle and Pennsylvania state Rep. Stephen Friend.
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013=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/17/89 17:51 Msg:4471 Call:24746 Lines:2
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209 Oh Boy! I hope it's another cartoon!
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210 Oh, no, another crummy Newsreel! I *hate* the news!
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014=Usr:25 Hi me 10/17/89 21:09 Msg:4472 Call:24747 Lines:1
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211 7.0 on the Scale Quake.
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015=Usr:3 Ramek 10/17/89 23:12 Msg:4473 Call:24754 Lines:26
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212 California Fault-y Rich-ter Scale
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214 3.0 - Motion comparable to upset stomach after bad burrito.
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215 Freeways impassable.
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217 4.0 - Slight fizz noticable in refrigerated mineral water.
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218 Freeways impassable.
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220 5.0 - Wine racks upset.
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221 Freeways impassable.
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223 6.0 - Difficult to jog. Whitecaps in hot tubs.
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224 Freeways impassable.
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225
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226 7.0 - U-storage facilities collapse. Tsunamis in waterbeds.
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227 Freeways impassable.
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229 8.0 - RVs overturned. Suction-cup Garfields jarred off car windows.
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230 Freeways impassable.
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232 9.0 - Malls evacuated. Hackers notice movement.
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233 Freeways beginning to clear.
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235 10.0 - Jack-in-the-Box restaurants close.
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236 Freeways clear.
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016=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/18/89 22:10 Msg:4474 Call:24773 Lines:55
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238 696969696969
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239 10/18/89 By The Associated Press
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240 Here is a summary of developments in the earthquake that rocked Northern
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241 California Tuesday:
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243 THE QUAKE
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244 The earthquake hit at 5:04 p.m. PDT, registering 6.9 on Richter scale, and
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245 was centered on the San Andreas Fault about eight miles northeast of Santa Cruz
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246 and 75 miles south of San Francisco.
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247 ------
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248 CASUALTIES
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249 At least 272 people died, and 650 were injured. Of the dead, 253 were killed
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250 when the upper level of two-tiered Interstate 880 in Oakland collapsed onto the
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251 lower level.
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253 DAMAGE
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254 The quake collapsed buildings, broke windows, and caused other damage across
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255 nearly 100 miles.
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256 Severed gas lines started fires. One spectacular fire in San Francisco burne
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257 a block of buildings and another damaged downtown Berkeley.
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258 Power, telephone, water and other services were disrupted for at least 1
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259 million people.
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260 The San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge and two bridges near Santa Cruz
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261 collapsed. The San Mateo and Dumbarton bridges were closed for inspection.
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262 Highways were damaged and mountain passes outside Santa Cruz were closed due
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263 to landslides and fissures in the roads.
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264 Lt. Gov. Leo McCarthy said damages would total "the better part of $1
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265 billion."
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266 ------
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267 LOOTING
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268 Some looting was reported in San Francisco and in Los Gatos, a town between
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269 San Jose and Santa Cruz, but no arrests were made.
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271 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
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272 President Bush signed a disaster relief declaration for seven counties in th
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273 Bay area and dispatched Transportation Secretary Samuel Skinner to join Vice
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274 President Quayle in California to assess damage.
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275 Military officials mobilized National Guard units to aid the rescue.
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276 The Federal Emergency Management Agency set up a disaster field office in Th
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277 Presidio, an Army post in San Francisco.
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278 Defense Secretary Dick Cheney ordered the armed forces to set up an emergenc
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279 group to help coordinate aid efforts.
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281 WORLD REACTION
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282 The Soviet Union made an unprecedented offer of relief aid and President
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283 Mikhail S. Gorbachev sent condolences in a telegram to President Bush.
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284 Offers of aid came from the Philippines, Japan, France, Britain, Switzerland
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285 and several other nations.
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286 Pope John Paul II was "deeply saddened" and praying for the victims.
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288 WORLD SERIES
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289 Baseball fans awaiting the start of Game Three of the World Series evacuated
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290 Candlestick Park, which sustained structural damage. No major injuries were
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291 reported and there was no word on when the game would be played.
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017=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/19/89 00:51 Msg:4475 Call:24782 Lines:78
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293 696969696969
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294 10/17/89 By SALLY CARPENTER HALE Associated Press Writer
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295 PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Opponents of U.S. military aid to Central America
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296 demonstrated outside a hotel where Vice President Dan Quayle was speaking, and
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297 21 people were arrested.
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298 Several of those arrested were later injured in a traffic accident as they
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299 were being taken to jail. Protester Robin Terry said the worst injury was a
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300 broken leg and that all of the protesters had been released from a hospital by
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301 today.
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302 "There were about 200 protesters out there. I would say out of respect for
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303 the office of vice president there should have been 500," Quayle quipped during
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304 his appearance at a Republican fund-raiser at a downtown hotel.
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305 Quayle's press secretary, David Beckwith, said it was the largest
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306 demonstration against Quayle since he's been vice president and the only
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307 demonstration that disrupted his schedule. Quayle left the hotel a half hour
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308 late.
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309 The protest began as a "die-in," with 11 demonstrators wearing red-stained
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310 clothes lying on the sidewalk in front of the hotel.
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311 When police asked them to move, the protesters tried to push their way
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312 through the doors, chanting: "Bush, Quayle, we know you; Hitler was elected,
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313 too."
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314 Police used nightsticks to quell the demonstration. "It was hats and bats an
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315 shoving and pushing," said a police officer who didn't give his name.
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316 Earlier, Quayle dropped in at an FBI news conference to praise investigators
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317 efforts in breaking up a drug ring.
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318 "What you've been able to accomplish is part of the strategy of President
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319 Bush in his war against drugs," he told law enforcement officers from several
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320 agencies. "We're not going to give up until that war is won."
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321 The news conference was called to announce the seizure of $150 million worth
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322 of tar heroin and cocaine on the West Coast.
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323 Isn't it interesting how the drug problem continues, but when the Republican
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324 Boy is in town, they can manage to bust a major drug ring? Coincidence? Or
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325 Political timing? Lee Atwater was unavailable for comment.
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326
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327 10/12/89: NASA CONFIRMS '89 OZONE HOLE MATCHES '87 RECORD
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328 RELEASE: 89-160 (Update from release 89-152).
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330 Continuing observations by the Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer (TOMS)
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331 have confirmed that the ozone hole over the Antarctic this year has equalled
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332 the record-setting hole observed in 1987, NASA scientists said.
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334 Dr. Arlin Krueger, Dr. Richard Stolarski and Dr. Mark Schoeberl,
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335 scientists at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., have been
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336 closely monitoring ozone levels over the Southern Hemisphere with the TOMS, an
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337 instrument on board NASA's NIMBUS-7 satellite.
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340 Previous measurements had indicated this year's hole might
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342 be as severe as the 1987 hole, and a record low ozone level was
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343
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344 reached on Oct. 5. Krueger, the TOMS prinicipal investigator,
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345
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346 said, "It's becoming clear that the ozone hole is not going away
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347
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348 in the near future, although the depth will vary from year to
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350 year." The depth of the ozone hole each year will be determined
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352 by meteorological conditions, such as temperature and winds.
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353
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354 RADAR THREATENS B-2 STEALTH:-10/13/89
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355 Australian scientists say they've developed a radar system using long-wave
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356 beams that can detect the radar-evading B-2 Stealth bombing. The Jindalee
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357 radar system includes technology that could allow long- and short-range
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358 detection and tracking of the Stealth, they say. Key: Jindalee capitalizes on
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359 Stealth's air turbulence.
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360 Australian scientists say they've developed a radar system using long-wave
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361 beams that can detect the radar-evading B-2 Stealth bomber. The Jindalee radar
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362 system includes technology that could allow long- and short-range detection
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363 and tracking of the Stealth, they say. The U.S.'s $70 billion bomber program's
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364 claim to be invincible could be threatened.
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365 $600,000,000.00+ PER plane...for what???
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369 "Bush, Quayle, we know you, Reagan was elected too!"
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372 10/19/89 By STEVE WILSTEIN Associated Press Writer
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373 SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Mayor Art Agnos said he was "ticked off" that Vice
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374 President Dan Quayle had time for television cameras but not for him during a
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375 tour of earthquake-damaged areas of the city.
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376 Quayle, who promised federal relief for earthquake victims after visiting th
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377 Bay area Wednesday, today dismissed the liberal Democratic mayor's criticism.
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378 "I would hope that the mayor would resist any kind of political rhetoric at
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379 this time and concentrate all the energies and all of our dedication to helping
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380 the victims and helping the families of the victims, and let's get the situatio
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381 stabilized first," Quayle said on CBS's "This Morning."
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382 And on NBC's "Today" show, he said that he thought it was "very unfortunate
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383 to take that kind of a shot at a very difficult time. ... I was there to help
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384 people."
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385 Agnos said Wednesday he was "ticked off" that Quayle "flies around in a
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386 helicopter, makes a bunch of television spots" but didn't meet with him. The
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387 mayor had said before Quayle's visit that he planned to meet with Quayle to urg
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388 immediate federal help.
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389 "I understand he was in the Marina and in the shelters and then left. If he
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390 did so without visiting the mayor, I have real questions about what he was doin
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391 here. It may have been just a publicity stunt," Agnos said.
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392 President Bush said today he would go to the Bay area on Friday and
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393 presidential press secretary Marlin Fitzwater said Agnos would be invited to a
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394 session between Bush and local officials.
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395 Fitzwater denied that the Republican vice president had snubbed Agnos.
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396 Agnos was invited to two meetings with Quayle "and he declined to attend bot
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397 meetings," Fitzwater said.
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398 Furthermore, "we offered to send a helicopter to pick him up wherever he was
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399 and deliver him to the meetings and he declined that."
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400 White House chief of staff John Sununu has "been trying to reach him on the
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401 phone for several days and he has declined to talk to us," Fitzwater said. "We
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402 regret very much that the mayor of San Francisco has decided not to cooperate
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403 with us in this matter."
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404 Quayle met with officials in Alameda County across San Francisco Bay to
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405 assess the need for federal assistance.
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406 On his tour, Quayle appeared stunned by the magnitude of damage and loss of
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407 life inflicted by the temblor. Quayle and his wife, Marilyn, spent six hours
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408 touring the area by helicopter and on foot after President Bush authorized
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409 federal disaster assistance.
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410 Upon his return to Washington late Wednesday, Quayle said that federal aid
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411 would be forthcoming.
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412 Quayle, accompanied by Transportation Secretary Samuel Skinner and Sen. Pete
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413 Wilson, R-Calif., met with mayors of more than half a dozen cities around the
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414 bay and emergency officials at the Alameda Naval Air Station.
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415 "My impression was one of great sadness for the number of people that lost
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416 their lives and the families that are impacted," Quayle said after seeing
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417 crushed cars on collapsed portions of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge and
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418 Interstate 880 in Oakland.
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419 "You can't help but be impressed by the magnitude of the earthquake," he
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420 said. "To see 880 flattened like a pancake, it's really a sobering sight."
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019=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/20/89 20:20 Msg:4477 Call:24839 Lines:20
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424 &*&*&*&*'s
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425 Just ducking in between the news postings. Looks like a down cycle right
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426 now.
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427
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428 Interesting bit of trivia : Don't buy those bench marks that say the
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429 '386sx is only about 90% as fast as an equivalent '286. If you put the
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430 '386sx in virtual 8086 mode it is faster then an equivalent '386 in that
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431 mode, and nearly as fast as a '386 running in '386 mode. Needless to say
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432 it blows away an equivalent '286.
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434 Note that chip revisions can lead to slight improvments in performance.
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435 Thats probable why the '386sx is slightly faster then a '386 in non
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436 32 bit tests. Newer 386's are probable as fast at the same clock rate
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437 as the '386sx.
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438
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439 ch probable probably.
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441 An Astral Dreamer
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442 &*&*&*&*'s
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444 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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445 Slug lurked here
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446 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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448 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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449 AD: Thanks for breaking up the news stories. I must ask - what motivates a
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450 person to continually post 50+ line messages STOLEN directly from the wire
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451 services on a BBS where users have several times expressed in kind and not
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452 so kind terms that THEY DON'T WANT THEM! Original political commentary is
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453 always welcome, but copied stuff from other sources is highly frowned upon.
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454
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455 This news person has just ignored the pleas to cease and desist. Why? Even
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456 they can come up with something better to write than someone else's writing.
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457 This person must be doing the posts in spite, which is unforgivable.
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458
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459 At least THE SKULL was original!
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460 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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462 The skull may be original, but......
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463
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464 ZZTOP RULES!
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023=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/22/89 14:57 Msg:4481 Call:24876 Lines:8
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466 &*&*&*&*'s
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467 Isn't the above ZZTOP RULES! a little small? I've heard the origional was
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468 quite large. Maybe it's size is related to the rumored shrinking of
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469 the universe...
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470
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471 An Astral Dreamer
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472 &*&*&*&*'s
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474 696969696969
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475 Technological failures Source: USA TODAY/Gannett National Information Network
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476 The computerization age changed the way business was done: hand ledgers are
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477 outdated and customers' names are recalled using a computer screen instead of
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478 one's memory. The computer industry has been rocked in the last several weeks
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479 by natural disasters.
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480 HAS TECHNOLOGY BEEN DOUBTED?
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481 The earthquake in Northern California, Hurricane Hugo and the threat of a
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482 "Friday the 13th" computer virus showed the vulnerability of technology. Tari
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483 Schneider, president of Contingency Planning Research Inc., a firm that sets
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484 up backup computer sites for disaster victims, said the events shook the
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485 computer industry.
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486 WHY ARE COMPUTERS SO FRAGILE?
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487 Computers and phones function by electrical wires that are susceptible to
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488 nature. Wires above the ground are often the first to go in disasters.
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489 HOW ABOUT WATER AS POWER?
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490 The majority of the nation's 16,000 mainframe computers that run big banks
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491 and brokerages are liquid-cooled, which means cold water is necessary to
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492 operate them. If pipelines or underground tanks rupture, they can be knocked
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493 out of service indefinitely.
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494 WHAT EFFECT HAS NATURE HAD?
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495 Nature's impact can range from minor to devastating. U.S. companies have
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496 always been at the mercy of the natural elements: fire, water (floods), earth
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497 (quakes) and air (hurricanes). Now that computers and phone networks are
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498 essential to businesses, firms are at the mercy of a fifth: technology
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499 outages.
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500 DO FIRMS HAVE BACKUP PLANS?
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501 Many firms in the nation set up backup computing centers called "hot sites."
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502 These sometimes entombed sites contain computers that can take over data-
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503 processing chores when disaster strikes.
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504 ANY WORKING IN SAN FRANCISCO?
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505 Yes, many took effect Wednesday when firms shifted their business centers.
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506 One San Francisco bank is now running its data processing operations on
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507 computers in Toronto.
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508 HOW ABOUT SECURITY MEASURES?
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509 Many of the sites that house main-frame computers are well-protected. In
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510 Tulsa, American Airlines constructed a $34 million underground facility to
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511 house its mainframes. The facility has a 42-inch-thick ceiling and 12-inch
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512 thick concrete walls. Admittance is only granted after passing a "retina scan"
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513 - a James Bond-like device that identifies you by scanning the blood vessels
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514 in your eyes.
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515 WHAT IS THE WORST OUTAGE?
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516 When the telephone lines go, then a firm usually is in trouble because
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517 computers can always run on a backup.
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518 WHAT IS COST OF PHONE LOSS?
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519 If the phones go down at a major airline or investment house, the losses can
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520 be as great as $6 million an hour, says Donna Lee, director of network
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521 operations at AT&T.
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522 WHAT IS VULNERABLE?
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523 All service operations - banks, insurance firms, newspapers -are vulnerable
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524 to a telecommunications breakdown. Manufacturing firms also rely on phones to
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525 order supplies for assembly.
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526 WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF LINKING?
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527 A local disaster can have rippleeffects nationwide because of the
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528 interconnecting technologies. On May 8, 1988, fire struck a Hinsdale, Ill.,
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529 telephone switching station. Suddenly, air-traffic controllers at O'Hare
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530 Airport couldn't communicate with controllers in other cities. Flights were
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531 delayed throughout the country. Unable to call in or out, Chicago-area
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532 businesses lost an estimated $500 million in sales.
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533 WHAT PROTECTION IS TAKEN?
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534 AT&T routes its calls through 100 heavily protected switching stations,
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535 housed in 200-foot square buildings. Just three stations serve the entire San
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536 Francisco Bay area. Among other AT&T's defenses: double backups for every
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537 switching center and computer systems that route long-distance calls through
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538 any of 21 different pathways.
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539
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540 As Lee Atwater, chairman of the National Republican Committee said: "It is m
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541 truly a shame that those who complain the loudest and most frequently about
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542 other people's postings on Backwater, never post anything themselves, but
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543 their complaints."
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545 696969696969696969
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547 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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548 Lee Atwater said something about Backwater? I didn't know he knew about us.
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549 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Slug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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551 &*&*&*&*'s
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552 More on the '386sx. I'm not sure that the virtual 8086 mode explains
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553 the speed of the '386sx.
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554
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555 At work I recently got a tandy 4000sx. Out of the box it ran at about
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556 15.2 MHZ relative to a '286. Sort of slow, but much faster then the
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557 vanila 6MHZ True IBM AT I had been using. About a week after getting
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558 it I ran setupsx, which is the sx specific version of the standard dos
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559 setup. (Atleast for tandy 4000sx's) At about the same time I also
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560 got the upgrade to the turbo debuger and turbo Pascal. Once they where
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561 installed I set my computer up to use the debuger. (I have multiple
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562 enviorments, as some of the software I use conflicts with other
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563 software.) This meant that I loaded the boreland virtual 8086 driver.
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564 At about that time I ran some benchmarks. Suddenly I was getting a
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565 17.6 on the norton SI index, and around 43 MHZ relative to an 8088.
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566 Of course I attributed it to the virtual 8086 mode.
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567
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568 This morning I went in to work, booted up my computer and noticed that
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569 it had slowed back down to the more ussual 15.2 or so MHZ relative to
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570 a '286. So on a hunch I ran setupsx again. Bingo, it was in turbo mode
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571 upon reboot.
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572
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573 Now I can't argue with the performance increase, but I really do wonder
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574 where it's coming from. It's as real as about 6 different bench marks
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575 can prove. So, Any ideas?
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576
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577 An Astral Dreamer
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578 &*&*&*&*'s
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581 CONTRA REBELS KILL 18:-10/23/89
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582 Contra rebels killed 18 and wounded eight when they ambushed trucks that
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583 were transporting soldiers. Nicaragua said the attack was part of a campaign
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584 aimed at disrupting the electoral process. The last day for 1.3 million to
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585 register to vote in February elections was Sunday.
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586 (Contras were supposedly "on Hold" until at least after the elections.
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587 Could it be that the "covert" operations of the Reagan/Bush agenda continue?)
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588
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589 TOPIC - PRESIDENT BUSH'S VETO ON ABORTION:
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590 Barbara Boxer, Democratic congresswoman from California, and Dennis L.
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591 Cuddy, free-lance writer, discuss their views.
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592 CUDDY: "President Bush is right to veto federal funding of abortions in
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593 case of rape or incest. ... Bush must veto abortion funding because not to do
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594 so would mean government would be imposing a `pro-choice' morality upon the
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595 many taxpayers who don't want their money used for this killing." (What about
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596 those taxpayers that object to the B-2 bomber or the Contras being supported
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597 with their tax money? Isn't a "killing morality" being forced on them?)
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598 BOXER: "President Bush's veto is the height of hypocrisy. ... The president
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599 has endorsed a double standard based on wealth, connections and power. ... It
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600 is bad policy, bad politics and bad news."
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028=Usr:47 John Dilks 10/23/89 23:06 Msg:4486 Call:24912 Lines:16
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604 You call entering 100+ lines of regurgitated news every day a "posting???"
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605 Bah! It is a waste of valuable space. Have you considered that maybe the
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606 reason the regulars have stoped posting is because they are sick and tired
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607 of wading through 100's of lines of news garbage every day? Trying to find
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608 a story in the middle of that mess and holding a visualization of what is
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609 happening is hardly a simple task. I suspect that the others like me have
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610 given up. What's the point in trying to enter something when it gets lost
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611 in the middle of back to back news garbage. Do you realize that most of
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612 this disk is nothing but your regurgitated news? Of course no one is posting
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613 who could find anything in that mess?
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614 Personally I wish that Mikey would remove the news junk. I consider it a
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615 waste of space and a degradation of BW. I suspect that others feel the
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616 same way since they seem to have given up on BW. It reminds me of the
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617 twits on the CB bands that turn their radio on to a radio station all
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618 day long. Yet anpther form of vandlism. Hey! Let's ruin it for everyone!
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619 --------------------------john -----------------------------------------
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621 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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622 I agree with John. That is why I left for like 3 months. Too much garbage.
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623 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Slug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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625 {}
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626
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627 To the creature that posts repeat news found on CNN:
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628
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629 In an effort of good faith and utter hopelessness, I ask kindly that
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630 you limit yourself to 3 "small" news postings (10-20 lines per post), or
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631 2 "medium" postings (20-30 lines), or 1 "large" posting (less than 60
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632 lines) per disk. I myself find the newservice sometimes annoying, but
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633 I ask that you observe your behavior, and learn a new word:
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634 "moderation". In moderation, along with occassional (sp) tact, you will
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635 find a greater acceptance of your work(?) in a place where most work
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636 is inspirational, ad hoc, sharing, witty, and caring, and otherwise
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637 enjoyable to the avid reader. There is nothing wrong with the
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638 news, nor is there a problem with posing questions with the day's
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639 events. But if BackWater is interested enough, it would have its
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640 OWN live newsfeed to share with its users. (pardon grammar)
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641
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642 If you wish to catch the fancy of the passer-by, try posting a
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643 question(able) line after each news posting, or a witty response. I
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644 think you will probably find many people paying much more attention to
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645 you than you would expect. Now before my nose clogs from hanging
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646 so high in the air, I'll sneeze this to you with politeness:
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647
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648 GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER. This is a shared board. Try sharing YOU,
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649 NOT someone else.
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650
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651 Thank you kindly for your attention.
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652
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653 A Confused, Tired Hagbard
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655 {}
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656 696969696969
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657 10/22/89 By MITCHELL LANDSBERG Associated Press Writer
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658 In a simpler time, not so long ago, environmentalists talked about saving
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659 forests for hiking, streams for rafting and clean air for the pure enjoyment of
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660 breathing it.
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661 Now, as the 1990s approach, the talk has turned to the science of survival -
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662 saving forests for oxygen, keeping streams from spreading toxic pollutants,
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663 cleaning the air to avoid catastrophic global warming.
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664 From the hazy vantage point of 1989, the environment looms as the major
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665 global issue of the next decade. The threat of an environmental cataclysm is
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666 replacing nuclear holocaust as the scariest menace to civilization.
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667 The World Bank, long dismissed by environmentalists as ecologically
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668 insensitive, now calls the environment its leading priority for the 1990s.
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669 President Bush called the '90s "the era for clean air."
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670 And the Worldwatch Institute, an environmental research organization, calls
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671 the 1990s "the turnaround decade" in which people will either stop polluting or
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672 face an environmental disaster as devastating as nuclear war.
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673 "By many measures, time is running out," Worldwatch warned in its "State of
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674 the World 1989" report.
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675 Not everyone shares Worldwatch's apocalyptic vision, which is based largely
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676 on the threat of global warming -- the "greenhouse effect." Many respected
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677 scientists say the available evidence doesn't warrant the doomsday warnings.
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678 But few doubt that environmental issues will be paramount in the coming
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679 years. If nothing else, the '90s are likely to be a decade of unprecedented
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680 research into environmental problems as scientists try to solve 19th- and 20th-
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681 century problems before people start mucking up the 21st.
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682 The environmental agenda in the '90s will include:
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683 --Clean air. Perhaps no environmental issue will be as sharply felt. In Los
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684 Angeles, authorities will try to change a way of life by starting to wean
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685 commuters off gasoline-powered automobiles in the 1990s. The rest of the nation
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686 undoubtedly will follow that lead. Already, a congressional committee has voted
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687 to adopt California's tough new standards for anti-pollution equipment on cars.
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688 --Ozone depletion. In cities, ozone is a toxic pollutant spewed out by cars,
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689 but high in the atmosphere it's a vital gas shielding the Earth from dangerous
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690 ultraviolet rays. That shield is being destroyed by yet another human pollutant
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691 -- chlorofluorocarbons -- and the consequences are expected to include increase
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692 rates of skin cancer and cataracts.
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693 --Extinction of species. Largely because of the burning of tropical rain
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694 forests, entire species of animals, plants and insects are becoming extinct at
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695 the fastest rate in human history.
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696 All these concerns will be secondary, however, to the one overriding issue
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697 that touches them all -- global warming.
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698 The greenhouse theory has been around for two centuries, but suddenly became
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699 the stuff of newspaper headlines during the hot, dry summer of 1988 in the
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700 United States.
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701 The idea is that certain gases in the atmosphere act like the glass on a
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702 greenhouse. They let sunlight in, but won't let its heat out. The biggest
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703 villain is carbon dioxide, which is released when trees are destroyed and when
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704 fossil fuels such as oil or coal are burned.
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705 Scientists almost universally agree that the gases will cause the Earth to
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706 get warmer. "The greenhouse effect is not a hypothesis or anything; it's one of
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707 the best-established facts about the way the world works," said Gus Steth,
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708 president of the World Resources Institute.
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709 That's where the agreement ends; the fights begin when experts try to guess
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710 when the warming will occur and how bad it will be.
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711 Some, such as Stephen Schneider, deputy director of the National Center for
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712 Atmospheric Research, argue that the greenhouse effect has already begun and
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713 will have devastating effects in the next century unless radical action is
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714 taken.
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715 Without such action, Schneider envisions a starkly different world by the
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716 middle of the next century, one in which the average global temperature will
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717 have risen by as much as 9 degrees Fahrenheit.
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718 Oceans would rise, deserts would spread, forests would die. People would
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719 starve.
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720 "Such a change," Schneider wrote recently in Scientific American magazine,
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721 "would be unprecedented in human history; it would match the (9-degree) warming
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722 since the peak of the last ice age 18,000 years ago but would take effect
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723 between 10 and 100 times faster."
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724 It's too late to stop the warming altogether, Schneider argues, but the wors
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725 of it could be averted if people cut back drastically in their use of fossil
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726 fuels and stopped destroying rain forests.
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727 Other scientists believe such warnings are premature.
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728 Richard Lindzen, a meteorology professor at the Massachusetts Institute of
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729 Technology, argues that climate scientists are operating in a vacuum, not a
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730 greenhouse. He said they lack the facts to back up claims about global warming.
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731 "You know very well we can't predict the weather with any certainty," Lindze
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732 said with a chuckle.
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733 His forecast for the '90s: continued scientific fogginess with a chance of
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734 clearing by the end of the decade.
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735 Schneider's forecast is considerably more ominous.
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736 "Six of the warmest years in the last 100 occurred in the '80s," he said
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737 recently at a meeting of chemists in Miami. "And I'll give you odds that the
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738 '90s will be warmer than the '80s."
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739 That sort of prognosticating doesn't impress the greenhouse skeptics.
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740 "Nobody in their right mind would make a forecast like that," said Andrew
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741 Solow, a climate statistician at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in
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742 Massachusetts. "There's just no way you can make that claim."
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743 Solow said he has pored over the statistics and cannot find any basis for
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744 claims that the greenhouse effect has begun. The warmer temperatures in the
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745 1980s, he believes, are probably part of a natural upswing; the greenhouse
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746 effect could be centuries off.
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747 What if the heat continues, if temperature records continue to topple throug
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748 the 1990s, if Schneider's forecast comes true? Would he become a believer then?
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749 "I'd be pretty convinced," Solow said.
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750
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751 As Lee Atwater may have once said: "It is interesting that those who
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752 protest the loudest, longest, and most frequently are those who apparently
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753 are unable to read. And they seem to have difficulty distinguishing fantasy
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754 from fact. I have trouble following stories that aren't going on too."
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755 696969696969696969
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032=Usr:232 bob lindski 10/24/89 10:34 Msg:4490 Call:24923 Lines:6
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756 ????//////
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757 bty 69/ where did you get you obscene name? ////???
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758 What is the liability of the cistop for infringement of
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759 AP/ CNN copyright for what obscene act was dumping on
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760 this board?
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761 ????/////
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033=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/24/89 13:12 Msg:4491 Call:24925 Lines:8
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762 &*&*&*&*'s
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763 Hagbard, sorry I missed you on reed. I've been having computer problems.
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764 Will we ever see you return here on a regular basis?
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765
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766 An Astral Dreamer
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767 &*&*&*&*'s
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768
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769
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034=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/24/89 16:01 Msg:4492 Call:24930 Lines:14
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770 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
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771 Just in case the news scrolled off the last entry in the Quantier Saga before
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772 you had a chance to see it, we have an update as follows.
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773
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774 Friar: At present, you're recuperating at the (mysterious) new inn (Inn?) that
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775 seems to have sprung up somewhere beyond the limits of the Central City.
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776 A severely injured Cloaked Man has, however, quickly located you from the
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777 emanations of the Quantier, and should arrive at your abode within seconds,
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778 thanks to his FTLP (Faster than Light Porter). The ball is in your court,
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779 and if I were yyou, I'd hurry. There are some ominous rumblings to be heard
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780 from the Stone Triangle, and if what 69 says is true, the Pool may have fallen
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781 prey to the Greenhouse Effect!
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782
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783 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::====
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035=Usr:53 prince dragon 10/24/89 20:56 Msg:4493 Call:24934 Lines:16
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784 to: the thing that is posting all the news.
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785 flame mode *ON*
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786 LOOK I HAVE BEEN ON THE BB'S FOR 12 YEARS AND YOU JUST ABOUT TAKE THE
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787 CAKE!!!!!! you have a lot of the old timers and some of the new one
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788 mad,you are making ONE of my fav bb's a living h*ll,
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789 if you need to post like this I WILL PAY FOR YOU TO GET ON USENET
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790 then you should realy go to a grp there called alt.flame
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791 I have said thing there about you.
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792 there are over 500+ grp there and 100,000+ of people you can
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793 p*ss off *GO AWAY* (am so mad I almost used the {t}word)
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794 flame mode off
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795 everone but you know who; I got it lets give it it's own
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796 comp.bbs and then not call it ...
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797 sorry all but I read usenet 4 hours a day and want to see other
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798 things here.
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799 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.dragon@agora
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036=Usr:286 Jeff Marten 10/25/89 01:41 Msg:4494 Call:24940 Lines:54
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800
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801
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802 {+}{+}{+}{+}
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803
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804 OPEN LETTER
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805 TO
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806 JIM BAKKER
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807
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808
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809 October 25, 1989
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810
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811 Dear Jim,
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812
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813 Gosh, that was a tough break you got at the sentencing
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814 hearing yesterday. Fourty-five years is a pretty stiff
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815 sentence for a man with so many nice suits - especially after
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816 you insisted so strenuously that you were innocent and that
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817 God had forgiven you. Come to think of it...if you WERE
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818 innocent, then why would God NEED to forgive you? No matter.
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819 Once the hog came out of the tunnel it was clear to everyone
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820 that God Almighty and Judge "Maximum Bob" Potter have been
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821 working from completely different agendas all along.
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822
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823 Prison life will definitely be a change of pace, Jim.
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824 People in there will say things to yohthat are not polite,
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825 and they may neglect to use the title "Reverend". Chit-chat
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826 out in the exercise yard may go something more along the
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827 lines of : "Hey! Preacher Boy! Yew gotta pretty little mouth,
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828 anybody ever tole yew that? C'mon over here. Hey!" If you
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829 thought bending over for strip searches in the Federal
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830 Psychiatric Hospital was unsavory, wait till "Bubba" from
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831 Cellblock D decides to make you his personal houseboy. "Turn
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832 the other cheek" takes on a whole new meaning in the dark
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833 world of federal corrections, and it's not something you'll
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834 want to base a sermon on.
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835
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836 { Try not to fret too much, Jim. A fourty-five year sentence
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837 isn't that bad - except for that unfortunate ten year
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838 minimum. Bummer. You may see some cold-blooded murderers get
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839 paroled before you do, but so what? Maybe by then you'll be
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840 buddies and they'll make phone calls for you when they get
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841 outside. You'll surely get paroled after your full "dime of
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842 hard time" is served...if you mind your manners.
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843
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844 So cheer up, Jim, and look at the bright side - you won't
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845 have to wake up next to Tammy Faye again until late 1999.
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846
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847 Sincerely,
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848
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849 ThingFish
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850
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851
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852 {+}{+}{+}{+}
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853
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037=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 10/25/89 08:32 Msg:4495 Call:24942 Lines:5
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854 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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855 Zephyr-
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856 Thanks for the nudge. I will post later this week.
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857 Friar
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858 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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038=Usr:232 bob lindski 10/25/89 10:25 Msg:4496 Call:24944 Lines:8
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859 .........................<
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860 ThingFish: If airlines could get away with overbooking,
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861 Why can't Jim Bakker do it without being
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862 penalized ? Is it beacause the media or the
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863 closed conglomerates that owned it are on
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864 Bakker-bashing frenzy?
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865 Bob the Fish
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866 .........................>
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039=Usr:427 alyx * 10/25/89 12:36 Msg:4497 Call:24946 Lines:12
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867 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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868
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869 Friar-
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870 Long time to 'talk'. How's the licensing going? Mine is on hold
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871 for an indeterminate amount of time. HORSES is where it's at
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872 for me.
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873
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874 Keep in touch, you hear?
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875
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876 Alyx *
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877 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
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878
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040=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/25/89 15:26 Msg:4498 Call:24950 Lines:3
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879 ZOD LLIIVESS---LURK LURK -LURK---I'D WREITE SOMETHING BUT I DON'T GO NO IDEAS
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880 RIGHT NOW CAUS I'M SO P*SSED.....LONG LIVE LORD ZOD....(this is so much better)
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881
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041=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 10/25/89 15:44 Msg:4499 Call:24951 Lines:29
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882 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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883 Mein Gott! I have written something that won't fit in the 33 lines
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884 remaining. So I will ramble instead.
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885 Alyx-
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886 Good to hear from you again. I am flying that same plane, with that same
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887 instructor. The license is almost over. Just one prep lesson and one
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888 test to go. And the baby is due Thursday.
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889 Friar
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890 OK newsman, you can fill up the disk. I for one don't mind the news,
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891 especially the Lee Atwater quotes. I would rather have stories, but it
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892 doesn't seem as though you are actually displacing anything, though. I
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893 am curious just what Liability Mikey has for leaving what would apparently
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894 be copyrighted material on the board.
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895 I just finished reading SYSLAW, on Leonard's reccomendation. So I think
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896 it is an area of concern to most sysops, or should be. I am setting up
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897 a board for BPers, and wanted to get the total picture, or at least as
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898 total as I could.
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899 What do you folks think about a sysops rights and responsibilities? Are
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900 they different from publishers? Editors? News reporters? How are they
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901 similar? There is no common law body as yet to determine precedent, so
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902 should sufficient totrt law be developed, or should examples of non-
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903 electronic media case law be twisted to adapt?
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904 Mikey- Please give your views, including the reasons for the caveats on
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905 the top of the disk.
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906 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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907 OK, how come I only had 33 lines left when there are almost a hundred
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908 left now ?!?!?!?!? Inquiring minds want to know!
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909 [][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar
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910
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911
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912
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913 Hate to tell you, Zod, but Superman murdered all the Phantom Zone villains some
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914 time ago. When you're up to date, get back to us. Oh, that's right.
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915 One Line Remaining.
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043=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/25/89 23:45 Msg:4501 Call:24960 Lines:3
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916@Mikey, is there anything you can do about this news-asshole? Note
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917@the poor attempt at being a twit with the ZOD stuff. Ralphie is a real
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918@jerk!
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044=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/25/89 23:56 Msg:4502 Call:24961 Lines:11
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919@I know, it's starting to turn ugely. Sigh... I had hoped to avoid that.
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920@The guy is not taking the hint. I asked him to use a bit of moderation,
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921@but instead he has just increased his activity. I want to avoid cutting
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922@him off completely bcause that will only antagonize him further and
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923@just make matters worse. The news was OK as long as it was only once
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924@a disk, but this is getting rediculous. I can reduce how much he can upload
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925@per day. Right now it is 100 lines, I think I may reduce that to 50 lines
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926@and see if he takes the hint. Probably what is really needed here is
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927@a maximum number of lines allowed per disk rather than per day. Maybe I
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928@could add that in on a per user basis. Something like at level zero you
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929@get 100 lines per disk.
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045=Usr:13 voyeur 10/26/89 01:54 Msg:4503 Call:24963 Lines:11
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930@Oh Wow, hidden messages! This is even better than NetCode Level 5!
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931@I've been wondering about 'god' level editing (i.e. TRuncation) of Steadman's
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932@stuff, since there doesn't seem to be *anyone* in favor of his reposted news.
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933@The closest to a positive review was just above - friar's neutral stance.
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934@(and like friar, I feel that the Atwater Quotes are the only redeeming material
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935@). Oh yes, Steve - my neighbor is running a bit behind on his writing. He
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936@just started working full time again this past Monday, which cuts into his
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937@creative time. He says he hopes to work on it properly this weekend, and may
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938@have something ready to upload Sundayish. He won't let me see it, so I don't
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939@know what he's up to. Hopefully we can push Steadman off via volume rather
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940@than brute force. You know, I bet if I had that '386 I could write faster too.
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046=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/26/89 17:43 Msg:4504 Call:24980 Lines:7
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941 &*&*&*&*'s
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942 Gee, I offer an alternative to the news and I get no input. I guess I'll
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943 take my hardware musings elsewhere. :-|
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944
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945 An Astral Dreamer
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946 &*&*&*&*'s
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947
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948
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949 +#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#
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950
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951 i'm not sure what you guys are counting down from but according
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952 to my calculations, there are 49 lines left from here... i won't
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953 try to fill them.
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954
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955 if i wanted to read news, i'd buy a newspaper, not dial a bbs.
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956 for those with usenet access, how's alt.prose going?
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957
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958 sysops have a unique responsibility. i don't see how they can
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959 be responsible for what others write on their boards. however,
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960 they are responsible for allowing continued access to those who
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961 choose to abuse the privelege of having an account. i have yet
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962 to be on any kind of computer system where it is absolutely
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963 impossible to trace the origin of any kind of 'prank' or law
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964 breaking.
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965
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966 i have in the past posted copyrighted stuff to usenet but in
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967 limited situations and i make it clear that i am doing so without
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968 permission. i don't do it indiscriminately.
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969
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970
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971
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972
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973 {+}{+}{+}{+}
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974
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975 To : "Bob" The Fish
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976
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977 An interesting and provocative statement there with all that
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978 stuff about Bakker VS/ The Airlines...you don't suppose this
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979 could fire a debate...an informed discussion..something
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980 interesting on the ole' BKW.....NHAAAAAAA.....
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981
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982 -+|[ ThingFish ]|+-
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983 Never Mind
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984
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985 {+}{+}{+}{+}
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986
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987 S&M S&M S&M S&M S&M S&M
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988 10/27/89 - TICKER TAPE FLOODS BACKWATER, AUTHORS PANIC!
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989
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990 In a bold move today, an unarmed assailant burst into the Backwater
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991 Message System, carrying only a large ticker tape machine. Threatening the
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992 authors present with a magnet, he promptly set up the machine and began a
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993 steady flow of ticker tape news items throughout the entire network of BWMS,
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994 utterly clogging literary traffic for days.
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995 "We just weren't expecting something like that tever happen," one
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996 anonymouus writer commented during routin questioning. "I mean, look, usually
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997 we get a few hack authors, but nothing this dramatic. You'd think there'd be
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998 a law against something like this."
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999 S&M S&M S&M S&M S&M S&M
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