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SUBJECT: INTERVIEW OF JIM SPEISER FILE: UFO3371
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The following interview took place on Thursday, May 26th at 10PM, live on
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ParaNet Alpha. The interviewer (lower case) was Jim Speiser; the abductee
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(CAPS) was Christopher Young of San Francisco. --------------
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OK, we're live, and you are Christopher Young of San Francisco, and you
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were abducted, when?
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FIRST I BELIEVE WHEN I WAS FOUR YEARS OLD
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I take it you don't have conscious recall of that particular experience, or
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do you?
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I RECALL THAT SOMETHING UNUSUAL HAPPENED WHEN I WAS IN THE MOUNTAINS ON AN
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OUTING WITH MY PARENTS AND THE GIRL SCOUT TROOP THAT MY MOTHER WAS LEADER
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OF. I REMEMBER THE DAY.
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But that wasn't the experience that actually led you to seek help in
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finding out whether or not you were an abductee, right?
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THAT IS CORRECT.
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Can you tell me about the one that made you think you had experienced
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something really bizarre?
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YES,IT WAS WHEN I WAS TWENTY .I WAS LIVING IN JAMESTOWN CA. AT THE TIME
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WITH THREE OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE IN AN OLD HOUSE OUTSIDE OF TOWN. ONE NIGHT I
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RETURNED TO MY BEDROOM AFTER GETTING UP TO USE THE BATHROOM .I TURNED OFF
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THE LIGHT ,GOT IN MY BED AND LAID ON MY LEFT SIDE. AS SOON AS I LAYED DOWN
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I "KNEW" THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE ROOM WITH ME.I COULD "FEEL" IT
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THINKING.I IMMEDIATLEY BECAME AWARE OF SOMETHING MOVING TO ME FROM ACROSS
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THE ROOM AND IT STOOD ON THE FOAM PAD RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY FACE AND MADE A
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DEPRESSION THERE THAT MY HANDS WHICH WERE UP BY MY FACE STARTED TO ROLL
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INTO.THEN SUDDENLY THERE WAS A WEIGHT ON TOP OF MY BODY THAT PUSHED ME DOWN
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THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF MY PAD IN TO THE FLOOR AND HELD ME THERE
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PARALYZED.THERE ALSO WAS A LOUD SOUND IN MY UPTURNED RIGHT EAR WHICH
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SOUNDED AS THOUGH SOMETHING WHERE YELLING OR SHOUTING OR EXHALING RIGHT
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AGAINEST MY EAR. IT WAS ONE LONG SOUND THOUGH THERE WAS NO VARIATION IN
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TIMBRE ,FREQEUNCY OR PITCH AND IT CONTINUED FOR THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I
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COULD NOT MOVE.
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Do you recall this part of the event without hypnosis?
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YES MOST DEFINITELY!!!! I DIDN'T SLEEP FOR A YEAR OR TWO AFTERWARDS WITHOUT
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A LIGHT ON IN MY ROOM OR A LIGHT SHINING INTO MY ROOM FROM ANOTHER
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And that was the end of that part of the experience, that you recall
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consciously or was there more to it?
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THERE WAS MORE.A FEW DAYS BEFORE I MOVED OUT OF THAT PLACE IN FEAR OF
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WHATEVER IT WAS THAT HAD HAPPENED ,I WAS WATCHING T.V. IN THE LIVING ROOM
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IN BROAD DAY LIGHT WHEN I FELT AS IF SOMETHING WERE TOUCHING THE INSIDES OF
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MY THIGHS , LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING INVISIBLE THERE TRYING TO PUSH THEM
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APART. I NOW DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME TIME THERE AT THE
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MOMENT BUT THAT IT WAS A STRONG SUBLIMINAL MEMORY OF HAVING BEEN TOUCHED
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THERE. ALSO WHEN I WAS MOVING BACK DOWN TO COLLEGE I HAD A SIMILAR
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SENSATION ACROSS MY UPPER ABDOMEN WHILE I WAS DRIVING A CAR.
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How old are you now?
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32 YRS OLD
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When it first happened to you (in your bed), what did you think had
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happened?
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WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING I THOUGHT FIRST THAT THIS ISN'T POSSIBLE ,THIS CAN'T
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BE HAPPENING,ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.THE NEXT THING I
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THOUGHT WAS THAT I WAS DEAD MEAT TO WHATEVER WAS HOLDING ME DOWN.I
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STRUGGLED TO MOVE BUT THERE WAS NO MOTOR COORDINATION AT ALL! I WAS SO
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TERRIFIED AT THIS THAT I FELT AS IF I WERE BEGINNING TO LEAVE MY BODY
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INVOLUNTARILY TO ESCAPE THE EXPERIANCE ,THIS SCARED ME EVEN MORE SO I
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FOCUSED ON ONE WORD, THE WORD"NO" AND KEPT REPEATING IT IN HOPES IT WOULD
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STOP.WHEN IT DID STOP I MOVED IMMEDIATELY ,ACTUALLY JUMPED UP FROM BED AND
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TURNED ON THE LIGHT. IT WAS FIVE MINUTES AFTER 3 AM. WHEN I HAD LAYED DOWN
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IT WAS JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT.BUT PLS BELIEVE ME THIS WAS NO "DREAM" I HAVE
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NEVER HAD ANY CONCIOUS MEMORY OF ANY THING LIKE THIS OR THE WAY IT MADE ME
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FEEL BEFORE OR SINCE. AT THE TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS PERHAPS A "GHOST?'" OR
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POLTERGEIST?" I HAD NO EXPLANATION FOR IT ALTHOUGH SOMETHING STRANGE DID
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HAPPEN AT THE HOUSE A FEW WEEKS EARLIER THAT WE ALL ATRIBUTED TO A
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POLTERGEIST.
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My girlfriend often has the experience (and I have had it once or twice
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myself) of just drifting off to sleep when she feels as if something is
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pushing on her and she tries to move and scream and can't do either
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one...then she has the sensation of trying to "wake up" and its a physical
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ordeal...she also feels as if she's being smothered...this is actually a
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common experience, some call it "being ridden by the old hag." I don't
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suppose there's any possibility that that could be an answer to that
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experience (also called a hypnopompic dream)?
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I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS ,WAS ONE OF THOSE. IT HAPPENED WHILE I WAS STILL
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QUITE AWARE,THE FEELING OF "KNOWING"THERE WAS A PRESENCE IN THE ROOM WITH
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ME THAT IT WAS PHYSICALLY STANDING NEXT TO MY FACE AND MADE A DEPPRESSION
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ON MY FOAM PAD DOWN TO THE FLOOR AND THE FACT THAT IT DIDN'T FEEL AS IF I
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WERE JUST UNABLE TO MOVE BUT BEING PhYSICALLY PUSHED,HARD,DOWN THROUGH THE
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SUPPORT OF MY BED INTO THE FLOOR SO HARD IT KNOCKED THE AIR OUT OF ME!
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What made you finally seek help or answers?
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THIS WASN'T THE END OF MY EXPERIANCE . IT FOLLOWED ME TO WHERE I MOVED AND
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TEN MONTHS LATER I HAD A U.F.O. SIGHTING OVER MODESTO,CAL. AT VERY CLOSE
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RANGE WHICH BY THE WAY I DIDN'T ASSOCIATE WITH MY PRIOR EXPERIANCES.THERE
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WAS ALSO A VIVID "DREAM" I HAD WHERE SOMETHING HAD GONE INTO MY
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CONCIOUSNESS MADE ME FEEL EUPHORIC AND MADE MY LIFE PASS BEFORE MY EYES
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WHILE THEY RE-EXPERIANCED IT WITH ME AS IF THEY WERE LOOKING FOR
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SOMETHING(THIS WAS ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH A SIGHTING IN THE DREAM.THEY ALSO
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DID SOMETHING TO THE BACK OF MY HEAD.
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THE MEMORY OF THESE THINGS PERSISTED IN BOTHERING ME FOR YEARS.AT THE TIME
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I MOVED AWAY FROM RURAL AREAS THINKING THAT THESE THINGS WOULD STOP.I
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DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPING TO ME. I BEGAN HAVING PANIC ATTAKS AFTER THE
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ONE EXPERIANCE IN JAMESTOWN AND I HAD NEVER HAD THEM BEFORE .ALL OF THIS
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WAS QUITE UNSETTLING AND I COULD'NT FIGURE OUT WHY WHEN I WAS HAVING ONE ON
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THE BEST TIMES OF MY LIFE THAT SOMETHING SO STRANGE WOULD START PLAGUING
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ME.MOVING TO S.F. SEEMED TO DO THE TRICK FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS .I DIDN'T
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ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS EVERYDAY I FOUND PLENTY TO DISTRACT
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MYSELF,HOWEVER THEY RE EMERGED AND I STARTED HAVING A STRONG FEELING THAT
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THERE WAS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT ABOUT THESE THINGS AND WAS COMPELLED TO
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EXAMINE THEM FURTHER I STILL DID NOT REALLY RE-LATE THESE THINGS TOGETHER
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BUT THEY SEEMED LIKE UN-CORRELATED EVENTS.I GOT IN TOUCH WITH M.U.F.O.N.
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AND REPORTED MY SIGHTING TO DR.HAINES BACK IN 81 I THINK AND ALSO TOLD HIM
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OF THESE OTHER STRANGE EVENTS ,I DON'T KNOW WHY I EVEN RELAYED THEM TO HIM
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AT THE SAME TIME BUT IN FELT SOME HOW AS IF THEY WERE IMPORTANT. HE
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LISTENED UT DID NOT KNOW AT THE TIME WHAT TO MAKE F ANY OF THEM BUT THE
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SIGHTING WHICH HE TOLD ME THAT TWO OTHER PEOPLE ON THE COAST SAW THE SAME
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OBJECT DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD.I DIDN'T GET ANY ANSWERS AT THE TIME
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AND WENT AWAY FEELING REALLY WEIRD.
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How would you rate your "UFO IQ" at the time? How aware were you of the
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subject in general and of abductions in particular, and had you seen the
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movie "Interrupted Journey" about the Betty and Barney Hill incident?
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ZILCH
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Did Dr. Haines recommend you to any other researchers?
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NO,UNFORTUNATLEY ,I DON'T THINK AT THE TIME HE WAS INVOLVED AS MUCH IN
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ABDUCTIONS AS HE SEEMS TO BE NOW
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Since then, you have been hypnotically regressed, right?
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YES
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By who?
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BY KATHY MCCAMPBELL THE DAUGHTHER OF MR. JAMES MCCAMPBELL
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And what came out of those sessions that you did not know before?
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WHERE DO YOU WANT ME TO BEGIN?
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Well, from the first experience you had when you were small, but just kind
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of basic overview of events, if you could...
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JUST THE FACTS , MAM. O.K. I DO GO ON. I WAS WITH THE GROUP OF GIRLS AND
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THEN I REMEMBER BEING AWAY FROM THEM,THEN I BECAME VERY DIZZY,I REMEMBER
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BEING CARRIED THEN SEEING SOMETHING COME DOWN FROM ABOVE THE TREE LINE.IWAS
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HANDED UP INTO SOMETHING(IT WAS ON THE GROUND)IT LOOKED ROUND AND SILVER
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KIND OF LIKE A DIVING BELL AND WAS NOT THAT LARGE.I OPENED MY EYES,THERE
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WERE THREE OF THEM ON EITHER SIDE OF ME LOOKING DOWN AT ME.THE NEXT THING
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I KNOW IS THAT I'M SITTING UP BUT I AM LEANING AGAINEST ON EOF THEM WHO IS
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AT MY SIDE.HE IS HOLDING SOMETHING ON TOP AND AT THE BACK OF MY HEAD
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Can you describe them, real quick?
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THEY WERE SMALL,ABOUT THE SIZE I WAS.THEIR HEADS WERE QUITE LARGE COMPARED
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TO THEIR BODIES.THE HEAD WAS ROUND (NOT LIKE PICTURES I HAVE SEEN) ALMOST
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LIKE A COMPRESSED EGG SHAPE ,THE EYES WERE QUITE LARGE AND I BELIEVE THEY
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HAVE SOMETHING OF AN IRIS OR IRIS LIKE AT THE BOTTOM INSIDE THEIR EYES
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WHICH IS LARGE AND FEATHERY NOT TIGHT LIKE OURS,THEY SEEM TO HAVE SOME SORT
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OF BONEY PROTRUSION FROM THEIR FOREHEAD AT EYEBROW LEVEL THEY WERE VERY
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THIN AND DELICATE
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What color?
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NOT SURE ,SOME SORT OF NEUTRAL COLOR ,GRAYISH -BEIGE
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Were you afraid of them?
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I WAS AT FIRST SORT OF IN SHOCK I GUESS BUT I THINK THAT I WAS LESS AFRAID
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OF THEM DURING THIS EXEPERIANCE THAN THE ONES WHEN I WAS OLDER.I GOT UP AND
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RAN AROUND INSIDE THIS PLACE AND WENT INTO ANOTHER ROOM AND THEY RAN AFTER
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ME AND PULLED ME BACK INTO THE EXAM ROOM
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Any other details about the exam room you can remember?
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SURE LOTS AND ALSO WHAT THEY DID TO ME. THE ENTIRE PLACE SEEMED TO BE BLACK
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AND SHINEY LIKE GUN METAL AND EVERYTHING WAS MADE OUT OF IT,EVEN SOME OF
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THE INSTRUMENTS THEY USED ON ME
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What did they do to you?
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THE FIRST ONE PUT SOME OBJECT ON THE TOP AND BACK OF MY HEAD THAT WAS ROUND
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AND FLAT AND SEEMED SORT OF SOFT ,IT WAS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A "YAMIKA" I
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GUESS BUT IT WAS MADE OF THIS BLACK METAL STUFF AND WAS ABOUT A 1/4-1/2
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INCH THICK. IT TOOK IT OFF AND WALKED OVER AND SHOWED IT TO THE OTHERS,ONE
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CAME OVER TO ME AND PUT A SMALL ROUND BLACK METAL AGAIN,OBJECT THAT FIT IN
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THE PALM OF MY HAND INTO MY LEFT HAND AND HE BACKED UP AS I WAS SURROUNDEE
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BY A LIGHT WHICH ORIGINATED FROM ABOVE NY HEAD,THEY THEN HAD ME LAY DOWN ON
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THIS TABLE WHOSE EDGE I WAS SITTING ON AND A LARGE FLAT SURFACE(BLACK
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METAL) CAME DOWN FROM ABOVE ME AND SLOWLY I BEGAN TO SEE INTENSE COLORS IN
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THE SURFACE THAT SEEMED TO BE LIKE NEON COMING THROUGH DARK GLASS AND THESE
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COLORS UNDULATED.THEN ONE CAME OVER AND INTRODUCED HIMSELF AFTER THEY
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TALKED FOR A MINUTE.HE DIDN'T SAY WHAT HIS OR THEIR NAMES WERE BUT MERELY
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STATED THAT "WE'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE YOU NOW" THIS I THOUGHT UNDER HYPNOSIS
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WAS SORT OF REDUNDENT.I GOT AWAY FROM THESE ONES AND RAN INTO ANOTHER ROOM
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THAT HAD A ROUND WALL A CHAIRS OR SEATS RATHER FACING A PANEL WHICH
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EXTENDED OFF THE WALL I STUCK MY HEAD IN BETWEEN TWO OF THE SEATS AND SAW
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THAT THERE WERE WHAT "APPEARED " TO BE OPEN BOOKS IN FRONT OF THEM AND
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THERE WERE BEINGS IN THE SEATS ON EITHER SIDE OF ME WHO TURNED AND LOOKED
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AT ME. AT THAT MOMENT THE ONES WHO HAD BEEN EXAMINING ME GRABBED ME BY MY
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RIGHT SHOULDER AND CALF AND STARTED TO PULL ME BACK AWAY INTO THE OTHER
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ROOM.ONE PUT IT'S FACE RIGHT UP AGAINEST MINE AND ASKED IF I WERE A
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BOY,(SOME FRIENDS OF MINE SAY WELL IF THEIR INTELLIGENT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE
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TO ASK )ANY WAY THEY PUT ME BACK UP ON THE TABLE WITHOUT MY CLOTHES AND
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EXAMINED MY GENITALIA RATHER CLOSELY BUT THIS WAS NOT SEXUALL,THE LAST
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THING I REMEMBER THEM DOING IS THEN PUTTING SOME SORT OF METALLIC COVER
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WHICH FITTED TO THE TABLE AND COVERED MY FEET AND ANKLES THEN THEY BROUGHT
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ANOTHER PIECE WHICH COVERED MY CALFS AND KNEES AND SO ON AND SO ON UNTIL I
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WAS COMPLETELY COVERED THEM I CAME OUT OF TRANCE SPONTAENIOUSLY AND
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COULDN'T SHAKE THIS SCARY FEELING FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS
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Its getting late, but I want to ask you one more question...Budd says he;s
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writing a book called "Aftermath"...what was the aftermath of your entire
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experience for you, and what does the experience mean to you?
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IT HAS CHANGED THE WAY I LOOK AT THE WORLD FOR ONE,SINCE REALIZING WHAT I
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NOW BELIEVE TO BE THE TRUTH OF MY EXPERIANCES(AND I DON'T EXPECT THAT
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EVERYONE SHOULD JUST ACCECPT ALL THIS )BUT I KNOW WHAT IT HAS DONE TO ME
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TO REMEMBER THIS NOW.I FEEL AS IF A GREAT LOAD HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF MY
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SHOULDERS,I HAVE BECOME MUCH MORE CENTERED,I HAVE RECENTLY LOST 55 LBS AND
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NOW WORK OUT AGAIN.
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I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS NOT OVER ,THAT IT IS AN EVOLVING PROCESS IN MY
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CONCIOUSNESS AND THAT MORE IS COMING SOON,WHAT I AM NOT SURE BUT I TELL YOU
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ONE THING SINCE I HAVE COME OUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING
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TO TELL ME WHAT IT IS AND I DON'T BUY MUCH OF IT!
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Do you agree with Whitley Strieber's stance that it MIGHT be real aliens,
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then again it might be something different altogether?
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IT'S POSSIBLE,I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE FROM AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THEM
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EVER TELLING ME,THIS EXTRA-DIMENSIONAL THING IS INTERESTING ALTHOUGH I
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DON'T SEE HOW BEING EXTRA-DIM. AND EXTRA-TERRS. HAVE TO BE MUTUALLY
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EXCLUSIVE.
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My main objective was to use this as a starting point for discussion on our
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board, as obviously we can't cover everything in your experience online. I
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think we've got a lot to go on, and I hope you'll be able to answer some
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questions from some of the other ParaNet users. Thanks a lot for your time!
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THANK YOU,I ENJOY SHARING WITH THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED
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And believe me, we are interested.
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