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SUBJECT: MORE ON THE HUDSON VALLEY SIGHTINGS FILE: UFO3306
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PART 2
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Date: 06-09Ä92 (10:39) Number: 3859 of 4132
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To: JOHN HICKS Refer#: NONE
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From: MICHAEL THOMAS Read: NO
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Subj: RE: HUDSON VALLEY SIGHTIN Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: UFO (1) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
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Thanks for the detailed reply. But I am a little confused.
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> Coverup by Phil Imbrogno
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Is this a book about the Hudson Sightings?
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> Make no mistake about it,there is a real unkown object in New York's
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> Hudson Valley.
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What do you mean by a "real unknown object"? Everything that you
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describe below is of terrrestrial origin. In fact while the facts are
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very interesting, I see nothing there that has to do with
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extraterrestrail craft, aliens, etc It all sounds like a CIA training
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center for operations like gun running etc. Not having military
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experience I am not sure, but "Restricted" does not seem like very high
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level secrecy or security. Many things on military bases are restricted,
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and the response to the journalist's intrusion seems completely normal
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to me, especially if the CIA is operating there. No need to introduce
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the UFO theme. Even the cattle mutilation idea is speculation. If the
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USDA is transporting infected cattle for example what better thing to
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do with them than keep them in a government area.
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I am not criticizing the research or facts, in fact I am very impressed
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by them, but I just don't see why we should assume that UFOs are
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involved, except in so far as the flights are mistaken for them.
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-- Michael Thomas
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>Since the publication of NIGHT SIEGE there has been a
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>regular appearance of a formation of planes over New York and Connecticut.
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>Members of our research team have spotted them on numerous occasions. These
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>planes were also observed in binoculars by several independent witnesses.
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>We had these people draw the outline of the shapes of the planes that they
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>saw. The drawings were all very similar,so we sent them to two pilots that
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>we know. One is a ex-military pilot,the other a ex-commercial pilot who
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>used to fly missions for the CIA.All of our aircraft experts and our two
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>pilots agree that the desgin was that of an O-2 type aircraft. The O-2 is a
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>medium duty aircraft with a single engine. It is made by Cessna Aircraft.
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>It is capable of long range and is used by the CIA for surveillance
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>missions. It has a very quiet "souped up" engine and the newer models have
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>on board flight computers in them for greater stability in the air. We have
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>reports that as many as eight planes were seen flying together in a tight
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>formation with the winds gusting up to twenty-five miles an hour!
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>
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> They seem to be trying to fake a UFO and many people feel that it is an
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>attempt to discredit the sightings and to try to convince everyone that all
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>they saw was a bunch of planes. These planes have been seen only on a
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>Thursday night,the official night the Airforce flies night manuvers. They
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>have been seen all over Southern New York and most of Connecticut.
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> They fly for about two hours and then they land,but where? They have been
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>seen circling Stormville Airport in Stormville, New York giving the
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>impression that they are going to land there. They then break formation and
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>head West(One plane has been reported landing at Stormville then taking off
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>again). On more than one occasion they have been tracked to Stewart
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>International airport(an old airforce SAC base) in Newburgh New York.
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>Stewart is located West of the Hudson River not far from I-84. The base is
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>official operated by the Air National Guard and the Marine Corps. The
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>planes then land,one at a time over a period of one hour,but not on the
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>main part of the base. They seem to lad on a isolated section of Stewart
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>which is a very large airport.
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> Our resaerch team visted Steward airport and found an isolated fenced off
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>large airfield away from the main landing area marked "RESTRICTED" The
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>Restricted area had a well kept flight line and grounds. On the grounds
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>were several buildings which looked like hangers large enough to harbor
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>several planes of medium size. For the several hours that we were there we
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>saw no activity at all.
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>
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> We filed a Freedom Of Information Act request(FOIA) with the CIA to find
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>out if the CIA was in fact using this area for some type of operation using
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>small aircraft.We received an answer several weeks later from the CIA. In a
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>lenthly double talking letter the CIA denied our request for information
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>about their activities at Stewart. The reason they gave was National
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>Security. This denial in our eyes is an admission that the planes do in
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>fact belong to the CIA. It is also apparent that the pilots who fly these
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>planes are expert military type pilots with years of experience in
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>formation flying.
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> What was going on in this restricted area? I was contacted by a member of
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>the local Newburgh New York media. This person told me that about six
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>months before our visit to Stewart he found the restricted area on the
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>base, became curious and started to walk toward the inside perimeter.
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>Out of nowhere a jeep came screaming to a halt and three military
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>police (Airforce) got out of the jeep and took him by force to a building
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>just inside the gate. He was placed in a room that was dimly lite with just
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>a table and chair. After about fifteen minutes two men entered the room
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>dresssed in dark suits and began to question him. They had a computer print
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>out in their hands and it had his name on it. He told me that they knew
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>everything about him.
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>
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> After about one hour of questions,they then called his supervisor at his
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>Job to pick him up. They then placed him in a jeep and took him to the
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>public area of Stewart Airfield. This member of the media is a newsperson
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>in the Newburgh area and does not want his name used at all in regards to
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>the experience he had at the restricted area at Stewart. He is still
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>fearful that who ever they were that questioned him might be keeping an eye
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>on him. He told me that he felt they were with the CIA and they meant
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>business.
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>
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>During our investigation concerning this restricted area at Stewart we
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>found out that the base now harbors several C-5A's the largest transport
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>jet that our Airforce has. We also found out from personnel at the base
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>that these C-5A's landed on the restricted airfield several years ago and
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>cargo was unloaded. We also found out through a document search that the
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>Ait National Guard is no longer officialy running the un-restricted area of
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>the base. It is now under the command of the Navy and the Marines are
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>running it and have been since 1973! This was strange since when we visted
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>Stewart we saw Airforce personnel there and even had a talk with a
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>Master Sergent.
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> We also found out that the Department of Agriculture was also using a
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>section of the restricted area. After a great deal of getting the run
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>around we found out that they are using the area for a holding place for
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>animals. We found out that a great deal of cattle and other animals were
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>flown in to this area. We are still waiting for documents from the USDA
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>explaining where the animals are coming from, why cattle and where are
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>they going from there. Of course when we found out that cattle were being
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>flown into this area the thought of cattle mutilations crossed our minds.
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>What was the strange conection with the mutilations and the UFOS. What was
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>the connection between the restricted area at Stewart, the CIA, the
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>mystery planes and the USDA and the cattle.
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>
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Origin: The FORUM BBS, Ithaca, NY 607-272-1371 1:260/460 (1:260/460)
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<<<>>>
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Date: 06-10Ä92 (06:40) Number: 4013 of 4132
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To: JOHN HICKS Refer#: NONE
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From: RANDY HASKIN Read: NO
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Subj: RE: HUDSON VALLEY SIGHTIN Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
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Conf: UFO (1) Read Type: GENERAL (+)
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]pilots agree that the desgin was that of an O-2 type aircraft. The O-2 is a
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]medium duty aircraft with a single engine. It is made by Cessna Aircraft.
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]It is capable of long range and is used by the CIA for surveillance
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]missions. It has a very quiet "souped up" engine and the newer models have
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]on board flight computers in them for greater stability in the air.We have
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]reports that as many as eight planes were seen flying together in a tight
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formation with the winds gusting up to twenty-five miles an hour!
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Keep in mind that the O-2 is actually a twin engine aircraft. It is the
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military version of the Cessna "Skymaster" with one engine mounted in the
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nose, and one mounted pointing aft, between the two tail booms. It is not a
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high-tech aircraft at all, but merely a utility/liason aircraft used for
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Forward Air Control duties in Vietnam. An on-board flight computer for
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"stability" is highly unlikely, although the type of formation flying
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discussed in this article could be accomplished with NO PROBLEM by any
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proficient military pilot, especially in an aircraft flying at moderate
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speeds
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(such as would be flown in the O-2 - well under 300 mph).
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