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SUBJECT: UFO ONLINE CONFERENCE FILE: UFO2989
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This is the transcript of the informal UFO online conference
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held on November 7, Saturday night. I have edited it somewhat
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to make it more readable. Specifically, I've cut out the hellos
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and goodbyes the ...'s, !'s, and GA's, moderator comments, and
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some other material unrelated to the content of the discussion.
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I've also taken the liberty of changing the order of a few of
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the lines where more than one person was talking at once, in
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order to keep the flow of the discussion sensible.
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I will e-mail the original unedited transcipt to anyone who
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asks. Ron Holtz [71035,3440].
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Ron | So, Marc, you said something about a Ouiji board ?
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Marc | Yeh, about ten years ago We were "contacting"(I think)
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| some aliens I know that sounds weird but at the time
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| it seemed pretty serious. anyway, we were told that the
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| reason they couldn't contact us was that they had evolved
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| in much higher radiation and that their crafts were also
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| very highly irradiated.
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Ron | Hmmm. Anyone care to comment on that ?
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Joseph | Guess not... <g>
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Marc | oh well, guess not
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Ron | I can buy the part about higher radiation
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| since that's a hazard of space travel.
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Frank T | Somthing I just thought of. Why is it that their
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| craft crash i.e. thery're not omnipotent.
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| and yet we don't have a sliver of evidence in adbduction
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| cases.
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Joseph | Theory has it that everyone makes mistakes... in Roswell,
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| the crash was precipitated by a storm the likes of which
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| the locals there had never seen before.
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Frank T | Umm... What about other crashes? And Hopkins has just
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| said that ext 2% of population are abductees.
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| You'd think we'd have an alien head by now.
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susan | We do frank
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Joseph | 2%?? I think Hopkins is over-estimating IMHO
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Frank T | Hey Susan where?
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Ron | The famous hanger 18, Susan ?
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susan | Hi guys are you speaking of ufo abductions?
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Joseph | Susan pegged it Frank, rumor has it that several alien
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| bodies were recovered at the Roswell sight, and one may
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| have survived a short while.
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susan | Actually I know of a Roswell victim reincarnate
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| That's him
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Joseph | Reincarnated?
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susan | Yes
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Joseph | [No comment]
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Al | Frank, you are attempting to make a point, what is it?
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susan | His name is Jerry Wills and lives in Phoenix
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Frank T | Whay doesn't someone kill one in there bedroom?
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Joseph | Eh? Kill an alien, or kill a human?
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Frank T | I meant why hasn't anyone killed a grey in their bedroom.
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| ANy comments?
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Ron | Ed Walters supposed was armed in several of his encounters.
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susan | Roswell accident was due to surveillance of Air Force Nuclear
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| explosions not abductions
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Joseph | They weren't viewing the actual explosions theory has it
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| they were checking out the base itself. It was currently
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| the only Atomic bomb base in the USA at the time.
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Frank T | What atomic explosions?
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Marc | Do you mind if I take a pole?
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Ron | IF you mean a poll, tell me what you have in mind.
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Marc | ploe, poll, you know what I meant,...
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Ron | <G>
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Marc | I am just wondering who in this room believes in alien visits.
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Marc | I do
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Ron | Marc has suggested a poll on who believes that we're being
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| visited by aliens.
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Ron | I am not sure, personally, but the stories are beleivable.
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Joseph | in other words that's a yes
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Brad | I'm willing to believe, but am not well informed.
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Frank T | I'm confused
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Leo | How about "Have _been_ being visited" (like for how long?)
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Frank T | yeah
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susan | are we voting ...yes
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Joseph | Leo you asked about how long we've been visited.
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| There are ancient (as in Egyptian Pharoa times) drawings
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| and depictions many have interpreted as being those of
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| aliens. There is one in particular (memory fails)
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| A drawing depicting a person in a space suit reclined
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| in an acceleration chair... (It looks a lot like an
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| astronaut).
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susan | joseph is talking of palenque in mexico
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Joseph | <bingo>
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susan | but the face on mars
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| along with the pyramids are probably 5 million
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| years precession of the equinoxes indicate about 600000
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| years since the great pyramid was built...guess so
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Al | Susan, face on mars vs pyramids on earth
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| last I knew great pyramid of cheops is aprox 2,600 BC.
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| No estimate available for face on mars if its anything at all.
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Ron | There's a Mars Observer satellite on it's way to Mars right
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| now, btw, so about a year from now we should have close-up
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| pictures.
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Frank T | My friend just finished a job at a company that he says
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| he thinks does some type of alien research and they worked
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| on the recent mars probe. And that the probe is going to
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| Mars specifically to look at the face region. FWIW.
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Ron | Specifically ?
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Joseph | Neg on the specifically.
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| Mars sat is going to map the entire planet and was in the
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| design phase prior to the pics ever surfacing (Face that is)
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Ron | What is this face supposed to be, I'd never heard of it
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| before ?
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Joseph | The "Face" is a picture found while the last orbital sat
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| was over mars it looks a LOT like a human face looking
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| up into the heavens. If you've ever seen the Easter Island
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| statues, blow them up about 100 times, and you'll get an
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| idea as to it's size. there are also several apparent
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| pyramids in the same area.
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Frank T | Joe, I've seen pictures of the face going back quite a while
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| ago not sure how long though but it's gotta be 10 - 15 years.
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susan | the pyramids on mars are in about the same alignment as the
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| giza pyramids in egypt they are proportionately spaced and
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| also include a five sided pyramid based onthe harmonics of
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| the golden mean in addition to the face. also it might
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| interest you to know the the name Cairo in arabic means Mars
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Ron | Susan, aligned how ?
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susan | the same as the giza pyramids are aligned to where magnetic
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| north is
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Al | egypt pyramids are aligned to TRUE NORTH, not magnetic north.
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Marc | Any comments on the Gulf Breeze sightings anyone?
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Joseph | Gulf Breeze: The jury is still out. There are too many
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| credible witnesses to write the whole thing off as a hoax,
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| however, some of the photos appear to have been faked, and
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| the fact that a model of the ufo was found in the attic of
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| the original photographer didn't help his credibility any.
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Ron | The gulf breeze case is what got me interested in UFOs again
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| after I read Ed Walter's book a few months ago.
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| At first, I was floored, especially because the physicist
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| Maccabbee wrote the chapter on the photo analysis
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| and it all made sense at first but the more I thought
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| about it the more problems I started having
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| so I'm not sure at all any more.
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Marc | The images looked like holograms to me...?
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Al | I agree with you Ron, but do not give up on UFO issues in
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| general the issues of animal mutilations...
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| adbuctions... sightings... so forth are too numerous and
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| varied so, yes alot of hoaxing is going on, but still
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| something is occuring and its not just weirdos or pranksters.
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Ron | Oh, I intend to get to the bottom of all this Al, some day
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| but as you note, it's a problem sorting out what to believe
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| or not and there's a need for "common sense" as you've
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| mentioned before.
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Joseph | A quick note on mutilations: Have any of you seen "Sneakers"
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| or counted how many times Dan Akroyd stated: "Cattle
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| Mutilations are up this year" ?
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Ron | No, haven't seen that, but I HAVE heard that cattle
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| mutilations have increased this year. David B says there's
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| a cattle mutliation "flap" in Missourri this past summer.
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Al | The mutilation stuff is fasinating, especially once you've
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| seen some photgraphs of the animals taken by police in the
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| more remote farms that do not really have reason to fake
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| something.
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| Anyway, just a question anyone payinmg attention to crop
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| circles in England this year?
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Joseph | First: This year no, circles in general yes. Second:
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| Mutilations are definitly up, and I've had reports of
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| mutilations recently in Sacramento Ca, as well as numerous
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| sightings.(UFOS).
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| Third: Take everything with a grain of salt. (in the ufology
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| world) Hoaxers abound out there trying to make a quick buck
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| IMHO: If they are trying to sell you UFO stuff, more than
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| likely that UFO stuff is bogus. It's the unsolicited reports
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| that have the most credibility, and are the most intriguing.
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Ron | But on the cattle mutilations in Sacramento, how recently,
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| and were they cattle or something else
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Joseph | I -believe- they were indeed cattle. I used to live there,
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| and this was reported to me by a friend of mine. The
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| sightings were as recent as last month.
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(Conference ended at this point).
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