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SUBJECT: DAVID JACOBS INTERVIEW FILE: UFO2477
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Jacobs:
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"Basically what people say is, that they are abducted out of their
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normal environment and are taken into this object, their clothes are
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taken off, they are given a physical examination of an unusual
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variety, -- and here we go plunging into the bizarre, but this is what
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is reported by virtually everyone -- they have a sperm and/or an egg
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sample taken from them and they are then subjected to a variety of
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other procedures -- sometimes they are presented with extraordinary-
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looking, little babies, uhh, strange looking beings that they are
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required to hold and then they are sometimes given machine
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examinations - placed inside machines and so forth, and then they are
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released. Now, a lot of other things happen, but they do not always
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happen at every occasion".
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Host:
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"Do they describe how the sperm and egg samples are taken?"
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Jacobs:
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well, eggs are taken internally, with certain very carefully described
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instruments. Sperm is collected strictly mechanically. There are are
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actually three or four different kinds of devices, basically they are
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all the same though, and oftentimes the man doesn't even know what is
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happening, it's a very quick procedure. What you are looking at
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primarily here is an extraordinary convergence of story and detail, a
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richness of detail that is impossible to understand other than through
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objective reality. People begin to describe certain things within the
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abduction - phenomenon that have never, ever been publicized and that
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they would simply not know to invent. They all essentially say the
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same thing, over and over again... and they'll say things and look at
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me inquiringly and say, "has anybody else ever reported anything like
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this?" .. and of course I've already heard it 200 times.. and it's
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just an extraordinary situation. Now physically, when people think
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they have had an abduction experience, they might first of all say
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that there was a missing time experience, they cannot account for two
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hours of their life. For instance they'll travel from work to home and
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they know it takes 12 minutes each way and they've been doing it for
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years and then one day it takes two ~hours~ and 12 minutes and they
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are at a loss to explain this, it seemed perfectly seemless to them.
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Well, in every one of these situations of missing time, the people
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have actually ~been~ missing. It's not a situation where they claim
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it, and then independent investigation has revealed that they were
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down at the corner bar bending the old elbow. In fact, people have
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called the police, because of missing children, search parties have
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been organized looking for people, there has been every evidence to
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suggest that people are not in place. The problem here is that if it
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is not an objective event, then it is automatically internally
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generated - people are just dreaming it up for whatever reason. But
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the psychological and the psychiatric community have been unable to
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account for how this could possibly be, and there is no precedent for
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it in psychological or psychiatric literature - and most psychologists
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and psychiatrists and therapists of all types who have confronted
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this, have simply drawn a blank. It does not ~seem~ to be imaginary,
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it does not ~seem~ to be internally generated".
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(Lengthy Betty Hill clip, continuing the abduction experience)
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Host:
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Betty and Barney Hill's abduction was the first ever reported. That
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was 29 years ago. There have been so many reported abductions since,
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that investigators are able to point to what ~they~ see as an amazing
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similarity among these stories. All have the same sorts of events.
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Aliens that look the same, the same physical examinations and so on. A
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key element here is that certain features of these stories are
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withheld from the public. That makes it much more difficult for anyone
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to fake an abduction story. But it's frustrating. We'd all like to
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know what some of these ~secret~ features are. But you can't ask the
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researchers to reveal them... can you? Dr. David Jacobs."
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Jacobs:
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Sure you can. There's so many of them, there's so little that is known
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about this subject in the public that it's just an extraordinary
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situation. For instance, one of the things that people describe that
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can now be revealed... as they say .. is the fact that when they leave
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their car or their house or their bedroom or wherever they are during
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an abduction event, they say something extraordinary, sort of amazing
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that makes no sense whatsoever and they all seem to say this. They say
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that they float up into the air and they appear to be floating
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directly through a closed window. Now, this is an extraordinary thing
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or course, and it's outrageous and unbelievable on the face of it. yet
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they ~all~ say it, and they ~all~ realize when they are saying it that
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it sounds crazy, and we have carefully, carefully questioned them
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about whether they stopped first and opened the window and the screen
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and the whole business... we don't have any cases of them opening the
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window, they ~all~ say that they do this.. every one of them... and
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the question is, why would they say this, this is a dumb thing to
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say... this is a thing to say that will obviously point to some sort
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of imagination or a hoax. But they're all fairly adamant that that's
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what happens. We don't of course, understand what is happening here
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completely, this is a little detail that just has not been published
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before.
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Host:
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Don't you think I could come to you Dr. Jacobs knowing the little I
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know about abduction stories. read a few more, then come to you and
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say .. look. I had this strange experience, make up a bunch of details
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and make a convincing story?"
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Jacobs:
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Well, there are two ways to deal with that. Number one, 90 percent of
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the abduction phenomenon has not been publicized, so you'd have to bee
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on target pretty good {chuckling} it's very tough to do. You'd be
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amazed how difficult it is. In fact, I teach one of the few ... the
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only course actually on UFO's in the United States at a major
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university. I will tell students... give them an assignment if they
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wish, to make up an abduction event and I will tell them they can read
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anything that they want.. it doesn't matter, and I want them to tell
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me several facts that ~all~ abductees say ~all~ the time, without
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exception.. just to see it they can hit it. In the four years I've
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been doing this, no one has hit it yet. What we are finding with the
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abduction phenomenon is that is an extremely routinized, highly
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structured event. Certain things happen to people and that's all .. in
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other words, people don't describe going up .. and then your sort of
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all over the place... y'know they don't describe getting out the
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scrabble set and playing alien scrabble and that sort of stuff.. they
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don't describe sitting down for a royal meal .. and they don't
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describe watching tv with the boys. There is a whole range of things
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that are never, ever described. What ~is~ described is very, ~very~
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narrow, and very, very structured. You have to go where the evidence
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leads you. I think that people are actually describing experiences
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that have befallen them. I think that aliens are in fact taking human
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beings..... I must say Jay, (Jay Ingram - program host) that I don't
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like this business. I find it extremely disturbing, very depressing. I
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wish that I had not found this and I wish that ~all~ researchers had
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not found this. But we have found it. I think we have to start coming
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to terms with this on a fairly serious basis, even though this is
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about as way out as one can get in this society these days.
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-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-
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** End **
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