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SUBJECT: THE ICE DOCUMENTS PRESS CONFERENCE FILE: UFO2473
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The Ice Documents Press Conference
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National Press Club
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Washington, D.C.
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Presented by:
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Mr. Dale Goudie and Mr. Christian Lambright
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June 25, 1987
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NOTE: The following is the text of the press conference prepared
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and presented by Mr. Dale Goudie and Mr. Christian Lambright,
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including referenced documents and related articles as
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attachments.
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Readers should keep in mind that the following information is
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based on verified documents and bears no connection, association
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or relationship whatever to the unverified "MJ-12" documents.
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June 25, 1987
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Washington, D.C.
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Press Conference, National Press Club
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Opening Statements on Project Aquarius
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and Incidents at Kirtland AFB
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We came to Washington, D.C. on a direct challenge that had been
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made on a National Television Network as to the authenticity of
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newly released information by the National Security Agency (NSA)
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concerning Project Aquarius; and other documents released via
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Freedom of Information Act requests which would indicate that a
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Project Aquarius truly exists.
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The reason we made a point of this is because the American People
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were told on a National Television Network that these projects
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never did exist. The public was told this based on a single
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request to the United Stated Air Force regarding these projects
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and the Air Force's subsequent denial of their existence.
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What initially brought our attention to Project Aquarius was from
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a 17 Nov 1980 Telex for AFOSI only, Attachment A, basically
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stating that a Project Aquarius existed. This document also
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revealed that several other government agencies, led by NASA,
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actively investigates legitimate sightings through covert cover.
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The document goes on to say, "the official US Government policy
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and results of Project Aquarius is still classified Top Secret
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with no dissemination outside of official intelligence channels
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and with restricted access to MJ Twelve."
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Five years later our attention was drawn, through a request to
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the National Security Agency (NSA), to the fact that Project
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Aquarius was found to be genuine. This document is dated 3 March
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1986, serial #: J9014B, attachment B, and which states in part
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"Please be advised that Project Aquarius does not deal with
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unidentified aerial objects." We refer to this document as the
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"Ice Document" because this is the document that broke the ice
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for the first time acknowledging that a Project Aquarius does
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exist.
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The next document we received from the National Security Agency
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is dated 15 April 1986, Serial #: J9014C, attachment C, and which
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states "Project Aquarius is classified Top Secret." The document
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goes on to say "This document is classified because its
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disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause exceptionally
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grave damage to the national security." These two newly released
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documents were put on CUFON a year ago, at the end of April 1986.
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CUFON stands for Computer UFO Network, which is a free
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international telecommunications system for factual information
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concerning only the subject matter of unidentified flying
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objects.
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The next document that came to our attention and which we found
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very important, is a document from the National Security Agency
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(NSA) dated 27 January 1987, Serial #: Q4-072-87, attachment D,
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and it is to the Honorable John Glenn, United States Senate and
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which states in part the subject of paragraph 4, "Project
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Aquarius , has been the subject of numerous FOIA requests.
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Apparently there is or was an Air Force Project by that name
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which dealt with UFO's. Consequently, there is also an NSA
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National Security Agency project by that name. The NSA project
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does not deal with UFO's." from these documents alone, obviously
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we are not being told the truth. And for the first time we
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recognize that Project Aquarius does deal with UFO's. And
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remember, the Telex for AFOSI only was dated November 17, 1980.
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The next document that you will see is the one that focussed our
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attention on the serious realty that UAO's (Unidentified Aerial
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Objects) sometimes referred to as UFO's (Unidentified Flying
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Objects) are landing on top strategic military installations.
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This document is dated 2-9 September 1980 from AFOSI Det,
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Kirtland AFB, NM., see attachment E. Source and evaluation Major
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Ernest E. Edwards. This incident took place at Kirtland Air
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Force Base on the 8th of August, 1980. Three security police
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assigned to 1608 SPS, KAFB, NM, on duty inside the Manzano
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weapons storage area sighted an unidentified light in the air
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that travelled from north to south over the Coyote Canyon area of
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the Department of Defence Restricted Test Range on KAFB, NM.
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Please remember that this unidentified light was sighted at 11:50
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p.m. on th 8th of August.
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30 minutes later on August 9th, another sighting took place. At
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approximately 0020 hours, (12:20 a.m.) a guardsman was driving
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east on the Coyote Canyon access road on a building check of an
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alarmed structure. As he approached the structure he observed a
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bright light near the ground behind the structure. He also
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observed an object he first thought was a helicopter. But after
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driving closer he observed a "round disk-shaped object." He
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attempted to radio for a backup patrol but his radio would not
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work.
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As he approached the disk-shaped object on foot armed with a
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shotgun the disk-shaped object took off on a vertical direction
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at a high rate of speed. The guard was a former helicopter
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mechanic in the U.S. Army and "stated the disk-shaped object he
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observed was not a helicopter."
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On 8 September, 1980 it was learned from Sandia Security that
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another security guard observed th object land near the alarmed
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structure during the first week of August, but did not report it
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until later for fear of harassment. The two alarmed structures
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located within the area contained HQ CR 44 material. The
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following evening, August 10th, 1980, a New Mexico State
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Patrolman sighted an aerial object land in the Manzanos between
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Belen and Albuquerque, in NM. The patrolman reported the
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sighting to Kirtland Air Force Base Command Post, who later
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referred the patrolman to the AFOSI Dist. 17. AFOSI Dist. 17
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advised the patrolman to make a report through his own agency.
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On the 11th of August, 1980 the Kirtland Information Office
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advised the patrolman that the United Stated Air Force no longer
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investigates such sightings unless they occur on a United States
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Air Force Base.
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On the 13th of August, 1980 a maintenance officer for Kirtland
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Air Force Base reported that RADAR approach control equipment and
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scanner RADAR were inoperative due to high frequency jamming from
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an unknown cause "which was later determined to be of possible
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hostile frequency jamming." Total blackout of the entire RADAR
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approach systems to include "Albuquerque Airport which is a
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civilian airport "and was in effect between 1630-2215 hours,
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which in civilian time is 4:30 p.m. to 10:15 p.m., a total time
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of 5 hours and 45 minutes. This would mean that all RADARs were
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out, "civilian and military for that time period." Also, RADAR
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approach control back-up systems were inoperative.
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On the same day Defence Nuclear Agency Radio frequency monitors
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determined by vector analysis that the interference was being
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sent from an area (V-90 degrees or due east). On DAF map
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coordinates E-28.6. The area was located northwest of "Coyote
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Canyon Test Range." It was later determined that no land-based
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agency could disclose any information that could have caused such
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interference.
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At 2216 hours, (10:16 p.m.), all RADAR equipment returned to
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normal operation without further incident. The conclusions to
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the whole incident were that the possibility of hostile
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intelligence jamming could not be ruled out, but at the same
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time, it was not concluded that the reported landings and
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sightings of these aerial objects held any significance to the
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possible hostile jamming.
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It should be obvious to anyone who takes the time to read the
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material that is available today concerning these incidents at
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Kirtland Air Force Base that landings did take place of
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Unauthorized Aerial Objects, (UAO's), that were not part of any
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government agency or any military agency of the United States of
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America. It should also be obvious that, taking all these
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documents and this incident into consideration, there is a
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cover-up by certain agencies of the United States Government
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concerning these Unauthorized Aerial Objects, (UAO's), commonly
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referred to as UFO's, Unidentified Flying Objects.
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It is our contention that the people of the United States have a
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right to know. If, as stated, these UFO's pose no threat, then
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why are we denied information concerning the investigations by
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these agencies doing the research and investigations, which is
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ongoing today. Since these objects are real, as documentation
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has proven, according to our own military sources, and remember
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that a great deal of documentation is from police officers,
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doctors, trained observers, and scientists. It is long past the
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time when we should be treated as first-class citizens and given
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the information that will enable intelligent people to understand
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what is happening in our own skies. One should also note here
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that these are not isolated incidents. For instance, in 1980, we
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have knowledge that a landing of an aerial object took place at
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Bentwaters, an American Air Force Base in England, where security
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soldiers have come forward and testified as to the authenticity
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of this landing, and went so far as to say that they were
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threatened if they were to reveal this information.
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Also in 1980, two women, Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum, ages 51
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and 57, and a small boy by the name of Colby Landrum, age 7,
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referred to as the Cash-Landrum Case and which took place in
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Texas. The women and the child witnessed an Unauthorized Aerial
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Object, (UAO), or referred to as UFO, was being pursued by 20
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military helicopters. Subsequently, the witnesses were badly
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burned by some type of radiation and are suffering from those
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effects to this day. Some of the effects were 50% loss of hair,
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sores that would not heal, and last but not least, "cancer."
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Again, in 1975, a landing took place of an Unauthorized Aerial
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Object, (UAO), on two different nights at Loring Air Force Base.
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We were told that these were nothing more than mysterious
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helicopters landing on a Top Strategic Air Command Base, we were
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also told that 106 jets were scrambled out to pursue these
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Unauthorized Aerial Objects. The jets could not overtake these
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objects. One must note here that these were RADAR-visual
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sightings, in other words, visually seeing the objects and
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picking them up on RADAR at the same time. These mysterious
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Unauthorized Aerial Objects, (UAO's), also hovered over missile
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silos and were visually seen once again and RADAR confirmed.
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These unauthorized aerial objects UAO's were pursued for well
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over a two-week period and were chased half way across the United
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States and lower Canada, please note this case is on Air Force
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documents.
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We think, we have demonstrated here today that certain government
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agencies and certain military agencies have been, and still are,
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in the Unidentified Flying Objects UFO business, or as we UFO
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Information Services, call them "Unauthorized Aerial Objects
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UAO's.
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There are many moral issues here as well as technical issues.
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Many Americans have lost their credibility by standing up in the
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first place, as an honest American, and reporting their close
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range sightings. Also, there are military officers who have come
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forth with their sighting information and have been passed over,
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or had to retire, or forced to resign as a result of relating
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their sighting or sightings. It would seem that it is time that
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some people in the government must stand up and start being
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responsible for what they have been elected to do and that is,
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first and foremost, to tell the truth. "How does a free society
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base good and honest decisions on incorrect and/or no
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information. That does not work in a democracy."
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What we are also trying to achieve here today is to have
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responsible senators and congressmen approve "Congressional
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Hearings" in this matter and to subpoena certain members of the
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military and agencies mentioned in some of these documents to
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come forward and testify as to these landings on or near military
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installations.
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Please see attachment F, which shows that we documented some of
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this material May 8, 1987 in the Seattle Times relating to
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Project Aquarius. We also documented some of this same material
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concerning Project Aquarius on the Larry King Show on CNN on May
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14, 1987 where the challenge to the authenticity of Project
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Aquarius and the military involvement was first made.
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June 25, 1987
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Washington, D.C.
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Press Conference, National Press Club
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Closing Statements on Project Aquarius
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and Incidents at Kirtland AFB
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It was in June of 1985 that we first became completely aware of
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the significance of the 1980 incidents at Kirtland Air Force Base
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in Albuquerque, New Mexico. While we had heard mention of these
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incidents prior to this time it was not until we obtained copies
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of the documents maintained by AFOSI that we began to focus out
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attention and efforts on uncovering what facts we could relating
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to what are referred to as the "Kirtland incidents". However,
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while the AFOSI documents and their relation to Project Aquarius
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is the principal topic of discussion it should be pointed out
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that the events described in the original Complaint Form filed by
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Special Agent Richard Doty were not the only incidents to have
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taken place near Kirtland Air Force Base.
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One of the difficulties with information or documents obtained
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through FOIA is that these items do not come with instructions on
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how to interpret them. In going over documents which we have
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been able to obtain it has proven to be a necessary habit to go
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over each one many times. As a result we have found that quite
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often seemingly insignificant details can take on new meaning,
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and this, along with the slow process of gathering information
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via FOIA requests, has provided most of the substantiation for
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the validity of the documents and the topic of this conference.
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Given that the original Complaint Form detailing the incidents
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near Kirtland AFB is a genuine document and that this form bears
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a notation indicating threats directed towards nuclear resources,
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why is there no documentation indicating any investigation or
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intelligence report on these events? When security personnel
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report such threats and their reports are seemingly ignored by
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the principal headquarters in Washington then serious questions
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need to be raised concerning our national defense and security.
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Department of Defense regulations cited in HQ CR 44 specifically
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direct responsible commanders to actively investigate such
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threats, however, we are left to believe that in this instance no
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one did anything. Richard Doty has stated that he submitted a
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much more complete follow-up report but AFOSI headquarters claims
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they never received it.
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Shortly after receiving the AFOSI documents we obtained a copy of
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what is commonly referred to as the "Aquarius document" or "NASA
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telex". This is the allegedly genuine document which outlines
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the analysis of several photographic images of unidentified
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aerial objects as well as 8mm motion picture film footage, while
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this document also details several specific revelations about
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purported Air Force and NASA activities it becomes related to the
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Kirtland incidents specifically because of the mention of the
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name Bennewitz. What has become the most significant aspect of
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this allegedly genuine document is the indication that a project
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Aquarius exists which in some way relates to the subject of UFOs.
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The existence of a project Aquarius has since been proven. Since
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this document surfaced, to our knowledge no one has obtained a
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clear admission that this document, as it is, is in fact genuine.
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But for obvious reasons this should come as no surprise. As no
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one in any of the military or government agencies we have
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contacted seemed willing or able to verify this. We spent the
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next year learning as much as we could about all the various
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names, abbreviations, and references involved in it. The items
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which we found to be the most revealing were the references to
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the 7602 AINTELG, HQ CR 44, S/WNINTEL, Project Aquarius, and
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NASA. It was while trying to obtain information on the 7602
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AINTELG that we first became aware of possible involvement by the
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National Security Agency. Though we did learn that the 7602
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AINTELG (now the Air Force Special Activities Center) is a part
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of the Air Force Intelligence Service we were having some
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difficulty obtaining satisfactory responses to our FOIA requests.
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It was during this time period in a conversation with a
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knowledgeable acquaintance that we were told the 7602 AINTELG was
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a "branch of the NSA"!
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Partially as a result of this revelation we than addressed our
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first letter to the NSA requesting information on four items
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including any and all information on Project Aquarius.
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Subsequently, and after several letters, we were informed that
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NSA does have a project named Aquarius, that it is classified Top
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Secret, and that no information on it would be released to us.
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In the months after this, and in the process of searching for the
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original source of this document, we happened upon what we feel
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was a significant discovery. We have been told that the commonly
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circulated copy of this document contains two changes from the
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original. One of these changes as well as why these changes were
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made we do no know. However, the second change as it was told to
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us is that the reference to NASA originally reads "NSA". Based
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on our experiences we believe this is true. Inasmuch as we were
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told that 7602 AINTELG is affiliated with NSA, that NSA is named
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in the original version of this document, and that NSA has
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admitted to having a project entitled Aquarius, we believe it
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would be reasonable to conclude that NSA is involved.
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Recently, in response to a letter from Senator John Glenn, seems
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to have revealed that the Air Force has or had a project Aquarius
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which does deal with UFOs. Whether this a simple fingerpointing
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or not we are still trying to find out, however, at this point we
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strongly believe that based on the available evidence any
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reasonable person would have to conclude that there are serious
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questions here which need to be answered. There is more than
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enough evidence to prove that truly unidentified objects, such as
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those reported in the Kirtland incidents, do exist and it is well
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past the time that the responsible parties in the government and
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military were called upon to answer for having kept this truth
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from the American public.
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Documents and Articles Attached:
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Statement Made By Howard E. Goldfluss, OMNI June, 1987
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A. FOR AFOSI ONLY TELEX
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B. NSA CHADWICK LETTER J9014B
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C. NSA WETZEL LETTER J9014C
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D. NSA LETTER TO JOHN GLENN BY WETZEL Q4-072-87
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E. KIRTLAND AFB - ALLEGED SIGHTINGS OF UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL LIGHTS
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POSSIBLE HOSTILE INTELLIGENCE INTERCEPT
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INCIDENT
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F. Seattle Times article, May 8, 1987
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Weekend Australian article, June 27 - 28, 1987
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USA TODAY article, June 28, 1987
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Press conference background and D. Goudie letter to P. Klass
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Statement Made By Howard E. Goldfluss,
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Acting Justice, Supreme Court,
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State of New York,
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Source: OMNI June 1987
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I was as skeptical as the next fellow about unidentified flying
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objects. My legal training required evidence to prove the
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existence of UFOs. None was forthcoming, except for the typical
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tabloid headlines (I was sexually assaulted by a Martian) found
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at supermarket checkout counters. But what was laughable has now
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become serious. Solid evidence does exist to erase the
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skepticism. Before this evidence emerged, I believed the Air
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Force, the Central Intelligence Agency, and every other
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government agency that insisted UFOs were a myth. I would have
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continued to accept this government pronouncement forever had it
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not been for the passage of the Freedom of Information Act
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(FOIA). Congress enacted this law because it felt that the
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government as keeping too many facts from public inspection.
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This concern was certainly justified. Thanks to the FOIA, we now
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know that Uncle Sam has been sitting on evidence that UFOs do
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exist and that very substantial people have seen them. The most
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revealing information is found in Air Intelligence Division Study
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(A.I.D.S.) 203. Following are some of the references found
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within:
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* White Sands, New Mexico, June 29, 1947. Three
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scientists sighted a large, wingless disc or sphere
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moving horizontally.
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* Portland, Oregon, July 7, 1947. Five police officers
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sighted a varying number of similar discs flying over
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different sections of the city.
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* Andrews Field, Maryland, November 18, 1948. Reserve
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pilots Lieutenant Kenwood Jackson, Lieutenant Glen
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Stalker, and Lieutenant Henry Combs encountered a
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lighted UFO circling at 17,000 feet. They described
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the object as an oblong ball with one light, no wings,
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and no exhaust flame.
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If I could still doubt the sanity or sobriety of the observers
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already mentioned, an inspection of Air Intelligence Report
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1R-193-55, dated October 15, 1955, would have to be the
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convincer. The report was compiled after interviews with Senator
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Richard Russell of Georgia, then chairman of the Armed Forces
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Committee of the Senate; Lieutenant Colonel E. V. Hathaway, a
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staff officer assigned to the committee; and Reuben Efron, a
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committee consultant. On October 4, 1955, at 7:10 P.M., after
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departing by train from the USSR, all three observed two flying
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discs taking off almost vertically--one minute apart.
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What we ultimately seek in the courts is the truth. If even a
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portion of the facts is suppressed, the truth will not emerge.
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How could I or any judge reach a proper decision on the issue of
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UFOs when the testimony of responsible and credible witnesses has
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never been heard?
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We have now heard the other side of the case. We had been led to
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believe that only charlatans, drunks, fools, or psychopaths
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observed the phenomenon. We now know that many of those
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witnesses were responsible, credible, and respected people, most
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of whom were technologically trained. We now have reason to
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consider the subject to UFO; in light of strong evidence
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||
heretofore suppressed.
|
||
|
||
HOWARD E. GOLDFLUSS,
|
||
Acting Justice,
|
||
Supreme Court, State of New York,
|
||
and author of the book "The Judgement"
|
||
|
||
|
||
SECRET
|
||
|
||
17 NOV 1980
|
||
|
||
RTTEZYVW RUFLOJA9136
|
||
ZNY S E C R E T
|
||
GT
|
||
SECRET FOR AFOSI ONLY
|
||
R 171130Z NOV 80
|
||
FM HQ AFOSI BOLLING AFB DC//IVOE
|
||
TO RUWTFBA AFOSI DIST 17 KIRTLAND AFB NM//BID
|
||
INFO 7602 AINTELG FT BELVOIR VA//INSR
|
||
SECRET FOR AFOSI ONLY
|
||
Ref: REQUEST FOR PHOTO IMAGERY INTERPRETATION YOUR MSG 292030Z OCT 80.
|
||
SUBJECT CASE NR: 8017D93-126 HQ CR 44
|
||
1. SUBJECT NEGATIVES/FILM WERE ANALYZED BY HQ IVT AND 7602 AINTELG, IT AND
|
||
THE FOLLOWING RESULTS WERE FOUND:
|
||
A. NEGATIVE #1: DEPLICTING C-5A AIRCRAFT ON APPROACH AND STREAKING
|
||
UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL OBJECT IN LOWER RIGHT PORTION OF FILM. FILM FOUND TO BE
|
||
UNALTERED. SIZE DIFFERENTIAL WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH SIZE OF AIRCRAFT.
|
||
CONCLUSION: INCONCLUSIVE
|
||
B. NEGATIVE #2: DEPLICTING CYLINDER SHAPED UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL OBJECT IN
|
||
UPPER LEFT PORTION OF PHOTO. FILM FOUND TO BE UNALTERED. FILM SHOWED OBJECT
|
||
TO BE CONSISTENT WITH FIELD DEPTH AND CONSISTENT WITH RELATIVE SIZE OF FIXED
|
||
OBJECTS. CONCLUSION: LEGITIMATE NEGATIVE OF UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL OBJECT.
|
||
BOLTON/REINFELD METHOD DID NOT REVEAL VISIBLE MARKINGS ON OBJECT.
|
||
C. NEGATIVE #3: DEPLICTING IRREGULAR SHAPED UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL OBJECT IN
|
||
SEVEN FRAMES OF 8MM FILM. BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND APPARENT SPEED OF OBJECT
|
||
NO FURTHER CLASSIFICATION OR CONCLUSION COULD BE DRAWN. FILM SHOWN TO BE
|
||
UNALTERED.
|
||
D. 34 INCHES OF 8MM FILM: DEPLICTING APPARENT COLORED OBJECT MOVING IN
|
||
FRONT OF STILL CAMERA. FILM FOUND TO BE UNALTERED. SPECTROGRAPHY REVEALED
|
||
COLORS TO BE BASIC PRISM FEATURES. DEPTH ANALYSIS REVEALED OBJECT TO BE
|
||
WITHIN 152MM OF CAMERA. OBJECT WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH RELATIVE SIZE OF
|
||
FIXED OBJECTS OBSERVED FOR SEVERAL SECONDS IN FILM. CONCLUSION:
|
||
INCONCLUSIVE.
|
||
E. ORIGINAL NEGATIVE DEPLICTING UNIDENTIFIED OBJECT: FILM FOUND TO BE
|
||
UNALTERED. BECAUSE OF A LACK OF FIXED OBJECTS IN THE FILM, NO DEPTH ANALYSIS
|
||
COULD BE PERFORMED. BOLTON, REINFELD METHOD REVEALED OBJECT TO BE SAUCER
|
||
SHAPED, APPROXIMATE DIAMETER 37 FEET. OBJECT CONTAINED A TRILATERAL INSIGNIA
|
||
ON THE LOWER PORTION OF OBJECT. CONCLUSION: LEGITIMATE NEGATIVE OF
|
||
UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL OBJECT.
|
||
2. REF YOUR REQUEST FOR FURTHER INFORMATION REGARDING HQ CR 44, THE
|
||
FOLLOWING IS PROVIDED: CAPT. GRACE 7602 AINTELG, INS CONTACTED AND RELATED
|
||
FOLLOWING: (S/WINTEL) USAF NO LONGER PUBLICLY ACTIVE IN UFO RESEARCH, HOWEVER
|
||
USAF STILL HAS INTEREST IN ALL UFO SIGHTINGS OVER USAF INSTALLATION/TEST
|
||
RANGES. SEVERAL OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, LEAD BY NASA, ACTIVELY
|
||
INVESTIGATES LEGITIMATE SIGHTINGS THROUGH COVERT COVER. (S/WINTEL/FSA)
|
||
ONE SUCH COVER IS UFO REPORTING CENTER, US COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY,
|
||
ROCKVILLE, MD 20852. NASA FILTERS RESULTS OF SIGHTINGS TO APPROPRIATE
|
||
MILITARY DEPARTMENTS WITH INTEREST IN THAT PARTICULAR SIGHTING. THE OFFICIAL
|
||
US GOVERNMENT POLICY AND RESULTS OF PROJECT AQUARIUS IS STILL CLASSIFIED TOP
|
||
SECRET WITH NO DISSEMINATION OUTSIDE OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CHANNELS AND WITH
|
||
RESTRICTED ACCESS TO "MJ TWELVE". CASE ON BENNEWITZ IS BEING MONITORED BY
|
||
NASA, INS, WHO REQUEST ALL FUTURE EVIDENCE BE FORWARDED TO THEM THRU AFOSI,
|
||
IVOE.
|
||
4. REF YOUR REQUEST FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. BECAUSE OF A CHANCE OF
|
||
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE, NO KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSONNEL WITH SPA WILL BE PROVIDED.
|
||
CONTINUE TO RECEIVE ASSISTANCE FROM INDIVIDUALS MENTIONED IN YOUR MESSAGE,
|
||
MILLER, FUGATE. BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY OF CASE, REQUEST THEY BE
|
||
THOROUGHLY DEBRIEFED AT REGULAR INTERVALS.
|
||
|
||
BTS NNNS DOWNGRADE 17NOV2020
|
||
|
||
|
||
NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY
|
||
CENTRAL SECURITY SERVICE
|
||
Fort George G. Meade, Maryland 20755-6000
|
||
|
||
Serial: J9014B
|
||
|
||
02 MAR 1986
|
||
|
||
|
||
This is in response to your letter of 20 February
|
||
1986 in which you stated that, regarding your Freedom of
|
||
Information Act (FOIA) request for information on Project
|
||
Aquarius, you are interested in Aquarius as it pertains to
|
||
unidentified aerial objects. Please be advised that
|
||
Project Aquarius does not deal with unidentified aerial
|
||
objects. We, therefore, have no information to provide to
|
||
you on the subject.
|
||
|
||
In your letter you also ask for information on
|
||
Projects Sigma and Snowbird. The FOIA provides that a
|
||
person has a right of access to federal agency records,
|
||
except to the extent that such records are protected from
|
||
disclosure by one of nine exemptions. It does not require
|
||
that an agency answer questions. As I mentioned in my
|
||
letter of 20 February, Sigma and Snowbird are not NSA
|
||
projects; therefore, have no information to give you on
|
||
these topics.
|
||
|
||
Since you indicate in your letter that you will not
|
||
be paying the $15,000.00 fee to search for records
|
||
pertaining to Aquarius, this response completes our action
|
||
on your request.
|
||
|
||
Sincerely
|
||
|
||
(signed)
|
||
DENNIS C. CHADWICK
|
||
Chief
|
||
Information Policy
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY
|
||
CENTRAL SECURITY SERVICE
|
||
Fort George G. Meade, Maryland 20755-6000
|
||
|
||
Serial: J9014C
|
||
|
||
15 APR 1986
|
||
|
||
This responds to your letter of 7 March 1986 in which you
|
||
further narrowed your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)
|
||
request for records pertaining to Project Aquarius.
|
||
|
||
The document located in response to your request as stated
|
||
in your 7 March letter has been reviewed by this Agency as
|
||
required by the FOIA and has been found to be currently and
|
||
properly classified in accordance with Executive Order 12356.
|
||
This document meets the criteria for classification as set
|
||
forth in subparagraphs 2, 4, and 8 of section 1.3 and remains
|
||
classified TOP SECRET as provided in section 1.1 of Executive
|
||
Order 12356. The document is classified because its disclosure
|
||
could reasonably be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage
|
||
to the national security. Because the document is currently and
|
||
properly classified, it is exempt from disclosure pursuant to
|
||
the first exemption of the FOIA (5 U.S.C. section 552(b) (1)).
|
||
|
||
In addition, this Agency is authorized by various statues
|
||
to protect certain information concerning its activities. We
|
||
have determined that such information exists in this document.
|
||
Accordingly, those portions are also exempt from disclosure
|
||
pursuant to the third exemption of the FOIA which provides for
|
||
the withholding of information specifically protected from
|
||
disclosure by statute. The specific statutes applicable in
|
||
this case are Title 18 U.S. Code 798; Title 50 U.S. Code 403(d)
|
||
(3); and Section 6, Public Law 86-36 (50 U.S. Code 402 "note").
|
||
|
||
No portion of the information is reasonably segregable.
|
||
|
||
Since your request has been denied, you are hereby advised
|
||
of this Agency's appeal procedures.
|
||
|
||
Any person denied access to information may, within 45
|
||
days after notification of the denial, file an appeal to the
|
||
NSA/CSS Freedom of Information Act Appeal Authority. The
|
||
appeal shall be in writing addressed to the NSA/CSS FOIA Appeal
|
||
Authority, National Security Agency, Fort George G. Meade, MD
|
||
20755-6000. The appeal shall reference the initial denial of
|
||
access and shall contain, in sufficient detail and
|
||
particularity, the grounds upon which the requester believes
|
||
release of the information is required. The NSA/CSS Appeal
|
||
Authority shall respond to the appeal within 20 working days
|
||
after receipt.
|
||
|
||
|
||
In your letter, you take exception to the amount requested
|
||
by this Agency for manpower and computer search fees to
|
||
process your original request for all information on Project
|
||
Aquarius. Please be advised that NSA search and duplication
|
||
fees are computed in accordance with guidance promulgated in
|
||
sections 6-201 and 6-202 of Dod Directive 5400.7-R
|
||
|
||
Sincerely,
|
||
|
||
/s/ JULIA B. WETZEL
|
||
Director of Policy
|
||
|
||
|
||
NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY
|
||
CENTRAL SECURITY SERVICE
|
||
Fort George G. Meade. maryland 20755 - 6000
|
||
|
||
Serial: Q4-072-87
|
||
|
||
27 January 1987
|
||
|
||
The Honorable John Glenn
|
||
United States Senate
|
||
ATTN: Mr. Mark Frondorf
|
||
SH-503 Hart Senate Office Building
|
||
Washington, DC 20510
|
||
|
||
|
||
Dear Senator Glenn:
|
||
|
||
This responds to your letter of 7 January 1987 on behalf
|
||
of your constituent, Mr. Clifford E. Stone ( Enclosure 1 ).
|
||
|
||
The National Security Agency (NSA) has received numerous
|
||
Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests for information
|
||
pertaining to UFO incidents. Our records show that Mr. Stone
|
||
has submitted six such requests over the past 7 years. One of
|
||
those requests was for the information mentioned in paragraph 2
|
||
of his letter to you, the UFO incident at RAF Woodbridge Base.
|
||
In our 1 February 1984 response to Mr. Stone ( Enclosure 2 ), we
|
||
notified him that the estimated manpower and computer search
|
||
costs involved in locating records responsive to his requests
|
||
were $250.00. We advised him that, upon receipt of half that
|
||
amount, a search would be made. Mr. Stone did not respond to
|
||
our letter.
|
||
|
||
Regarding the information in paragraph 1 of Mr. Stone's
|
||
letter, we have no record of receiving an FOIA requests for
|
||
documents dealing with a UFO destruction of a Cuban MiG-23.
|
||
|
||
Paragraph 3 of his letter ask for NSA analysis of the
|
||
document he attached. It appears to be an Air Force document.
|
||
The project names which are referenced, Sigma and Snowbird, are
|
||
not NSA projects. We have no knowledge of the information
|
||
contained in the document.
|
||
|
||
The subject of paragraph 4, project Aquarius, has been the
|
||
subject of numerous FOIA requests. Apparently there is or was
|
||
an Air Force project by that name which dealt with UFO's.
|
||
Coincidentally, there is also an NSA project by that name. The
|
||
NSA project does not deal with UFO's. We believe that the
|
||
confusion on this issue results from an FOIA requests submitted
|
||
by another person with interest in UFOs, Mr. Christian Lambright.
|
||
|
||
|
||
(page 2)
|
||
Serial:
|
||
Q4-072-87
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Mr. Lambright requested all information on the NSA project
|
||
Aquarius, apparently believing that the project pertain to
|
||
UFOs. We advised Mr. Lambright that our project does not deal
|
||
with UFOs. He then requested records revealing the "goal" of
|
||
Aquarius, and we withheld the document because it is
|
||
classified. We have reason to believe that our final response
|
||
to Mr. Lambright, denying him access to the records, has been
|
||
disseminated within a circle of those interested in UFOs and
|
||
that subsequently a misunderstanding has developed regarding
|
||
NSA, Aquarius and UFOs.
|
||
|
||
In responding to general FOIA requests for UFO
|
||
information, certain documents have been withheld from the
|
||
public pursuant to the first and third exemptions of the FOIA.
|
||
The first exemption provides for the protection of information
|
||
which is currently and properly classified in accordance with
|
||
the provisions of Executive Order 12356. The third exemption
|
||
protects information from disclosure by statute. The statutes
|
||
applicable in this case are 50 U.S.C. 402 note ( Public Law
|
||
86-36, Section 6), 50 U.S.C. 403(d) (3) and 18 U.S.C. 798. This
|
||
Agency's decision to protect those records has been upheld by
|
||
the United States Court of Appeals for the District of
|
||
Columbia.
|
||
|
||
We hope that the information being provided to you will be
|
||
of help to Mr. Stone.
|
||
|
||
Sincerely,
|
||
|
||
(signed)
|
||
JULIA B. WETZEL
|
||
Director Of Policy
|
||
|
||
|
||
SECRET
|
||
COMPLAINT FORM
|
||
ADMINISTRATIVE DATA
|
||
|
||
TITLE DATE TIME
|
||
-------------- ------
|
||
KIRTLAND AFB, NM, 8 Aug-3 Sep 80 2 - 9 Sept 80 1200
|
||
Alleged Sightings of Unidentified
|
||
Aerial Lights in Restricted Test Range. PLACE
|
||
|
||
---------------------------------------
|
||
AFOSI Det 1700, Kirtland AFB, NM
|
||
HOW RECEIVED
|
||
Yes in person
|
||
SOURCE OF EVALUATION
|
||
Major Ernest E. Edwards
|
||
RESIDENCE OR BUSINESS ADDRESS PHONE
|
||
Commander, 1608 SPS, Manzano
|
||
Kirtland AFB, NM 4-7516
|
||
CR 44 APPLIES
|
||
------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
SUMMARY OF INFORMATION
|
||
|
||
1. On 2 Sept 80, SOURCE related on 8 Aug 80, three Security Policemen
|
||
assigned to 1608 SPS, KAFB, NM, on duty inside the Manzano Weapons Storage
|
||
Area sighted an unidentified light in the air that traveled from North to
|
||
South over the Coyote Canyon area of the Department of Defense Restricted
|
||
Test Range on KAFB, NM. The Security Policemen identified as: SSGT STEPHEN
|
||
FERENZ, Area Supervisor, ATC MARTIN W. RIST and AMN ANTHONY D. FRAZIER, were
|
||
later interviewed separately by SOURCE and all three related the same
|
||
statement; at approximately 2350 hrs., while on duty in Charlie Sector, East
|
||
Side of Manzano, the three observed a very bright light in the sky
|
||
approximately 3 miles North-North East of their position. The light traveled
|
||
with great speed and stopped suddenly in the sky over Coyote Canyon. The
|
||
three first thought the object was a helicopter, however, after observing the
|
||
strange aerial maneuvers (stop and go), they felt a helicopter couldn't have
|
||
performed such skills. The light landed in the Coyote Canyon area. Sometime
|
||
later, three witnessed the light take off and leave proceeding straight up at
|
||
a high speed and disappear.
|
||
|
||
2. Central Security Control (CSC) inside Manzano, contacted Sandia Security,
|
||
who conducts frequent building checks on two alarmed structures in area.
|
||
They advised that a patrol was already in the area and would investigate.
|
||
|
||
3. On 11 Aug 80, RUSS CURTIS, Sandia Security, advised that on 9 Aug 80, a
|
||
Sandia Security Guard, (who wishes his name not be divulged for fear of
|
||
harassment), related the following: At approximately 0020 hrs., he was
|
||
driving east on the Coyote Canyon access road on a routine building check of
|
||
an alarmed structure. As he approached the structure he observed a bright
|
||
light near the ground behind the structure. He also observed an object he
|
||
first thought was a helicopter. But after driving closer, he observed a
|
||
round disk shaped object. He attempted to radio for back up patrol but his
|
||
radio would not work. As he approached the object on foot armed with a
|
||
shotgun, the object took off in a vertical direction at a high rate of speed.
|
||
The guard was a former helicopter mechanic in the U.S. Army and stated the
|
||
object he observed was not a helicopter.
|
||
|
||
4. SOURCE advised on 22 Aug 80, three other security policemen observed the
|
||
same
|
||
|
||
------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
DATE FORWARDED HQ AFOSI
|
||
10 Aug 80 AFOSI FORM
|
||
------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
DATE TYPE OR PRINTED NAME OF SPECIAL AGENT
|
||
Sept 80 Richard C Doty, SA /s/ Richard C. Doty
|
||
------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
DISTRICT FILE NO 8017D93-0/29
|
||
|
||
|
||
CONTINUED FROM COMPLAINT FORM 1, DTD 9 Sept 80
|
||
|
||
aerial phenomena described by the first three. Again the object landed in
|
||
Coyote Canyon. They did not see the object take off.
|
||
|
||
5. Coyote Canyon is part of a large restricted test range used by the
|
||
Air Force Weapons Laboratory, Sandia Laboratories, Defense Nuclear Agency and
|
||
the Department of Energy. The range was formerly patrolled by Sandia
|
||
Security, however, they only conduct building checks there now.
|
||
|
||
6. On 10 Aug 80, a New Mexico State Patrolman sighted an aerial object land
|
||
in the Manzano's between Belen and Albuquerque, NM. The Patrolman reported
|
||
the sighting to the Kirtland AFB Command Post, who later referred the
|
||
patrolman to the AFOSI Dist 17. AFOSI Dist 17 advised the patrolman to make
|
||
a report through his own agency. On 11 Aug 80, the Kirtland Public
|
||
Information office advised the patrolman the USAF no longer investigates such
|
||
sighting unless they occur on a USAF base.
|
||
|
||
7. WRITER contacted all the agencies who utilized the test range and it was
|
||
learned no aerial tests are conducted in the Coyote Canyon area. Only ground
|
||
tests are conducted.
|
||
|
||
8. On 8 Sept 80, WRITER learned from Sandia Security that another Security
|
||
guard observed a object land near an alarmed structure sometime during the
|
||
first week of August, but did not report it until just recently for fear of
|
||
harassment.
|
||
|
||
9. The two alarmed structures located within the area contain HQ CR 44
|
||
material.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
COMPLAINT FORM
|
||
ADMINISTRATIVE DATA
|
||
|
||
DATE TIME
|
||
14 Aug 80 0730
|
||
KIRTLAND AFB, NM 13 Aug 80, Possible
|
||
Hostile Intelligence Intercept Incident, PLACE
|
||
Frequency Jamming. AFOSI District 17, BID,
|
||
KIRTLAND AFB, NM
|
||
|
||
SOURCE AND EVALUATION
|
||
1960th Communication Officer
|
||
RESIDENCE OR BUSINESS ADDRESS
|
||
1960 COMMSq KAFB, NM
|
||
|
||
PHONE
|
||
4-5098
|
||
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
REMARKS SUMMARY OF INFORMATION
|
||
|
||
1. On 13 Aug 80, 1960 COMMSq Maintenance Officer reported RADAR Approach
|
||
Control equipment and scanner radar inoperative due to high frequency jamming
|
||
from an unknown cause. Total blackout of entire RADAR approach system to
|
||
include Albuquerque Airport was in effect between 1630-2215 hrs. radar
|
||
Approach Control back up system also were inoperative.
|
||
|
||
2. On 13 Aug 80, Defense Nuclear Agency Radio Frequency Monitors determined,
|
||
by vector analysis, the interference was being sent from an area (V-90
|
||
degrees or due East). On DAF map coordinates E-28.6. The area was located
|
||
NW of Coyote Canyon Test area. It was first thought that Sandia Laboratory,
|
||
which utilizes the test range was responsible. However, after a careful
|
||
check, it was later determined that no tests were being conducted in the
|
||
canyon area. Department of Energy, Air Force Weapons Laboratory and DNA were
|
||
contacted but assured that their agencies were not responsible.
|
||
|
||
3. On 13 Aug 80, Base Security Police conducted a physical check of the area
|
||
but because of the mountainous terrain, a thorough check could not be
|
||
completed at that time. A later foot search failed to disclose anything that
|
||
could have caused the interference.
|
||
|
||
4. On 13 Aug 80, at 2216 hrs., all RADAR equipment returned to normal
|
||
operation without further incident.
|
||
|
||
5. CONCLUSION: The presence of hostile intelligence jamming cannot be ruled
|
||
out. Although no evidence would suggest this, the method has been used in
|
||
the past. Communication maintenance specialists cannot explain how such
|
||
interference could cause the radar equipment to become totally inoperative.
|
||
Neither could they suggest the type or range of the interference signal. DNA
|
||
frequency monitors reported the interference beam was wide spread and a type
|
||
unknown to their electronical equipment. Further checks of the area was
|
||
being conducted by Technical Services, AFOSI.
|
||
|
||
6. High command interest item. Briefings requested IAW AFOSIR 124-4 be
|
||
completed at HQ AFOSI/IVOE. HQ CR 44 and 51 items.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
From Seattle Times, May 8, 1987
|
||
|
||
60,000 Sightings Can't Be Wrong, Seattleite Insists
|
||
By Peter Lewis, Times Staff Reporter
|
||
|
||
In their most commonly reported form, the aliens have large heads
|
||
and stand 3 1/2 to 4 feet tall. Their enormous eyes rest under a
|
||
transparent helmet.
|
||
|
||
Clad in jumpsuits adorned with insignias, the humanoids walk in
|
||
sure, positive movements.
|
||
|
||
Far Out?
|
||
|
||
Maybe so, but that's where they probably come from.
|
||
|
||
And Seattle resident Dale Goudie has talked to people who say
|
||
they've seen them.
|
||
|
||
Goudie has spent the last 14 years researching UFO's and using
|
||
the Freedom of Information Act to collect federal documents that
|
||
he contends prove UFO's exist.
|
||
|
||
The official position of the U.S. Air Force, for example, is that
|
||
it got out of the UFO business when Project Bluebook ended in
|
||
1969. But Goudie says the Bluebook was succeeded by Project
|
||
Aquarius.
|
||
|
||
Since 1942, there have been an estimated 60,000 UFO sightings in
|
||
the United States alone and only 5 percent of sightings are
|
||
actually reported, Goudie says. Feeding characteristics of the
|
||
60,000 sightings into a computer, 250 different shapes emerged,
|
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suggesting to Goudie that there may be more than one species
|
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involved in UFO's.
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"The bottom line is: Don't believe me, but do read what is
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available" says Goudie, who has dedicated a room in his home to
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countless files and papers on UFO's.
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"The real problem is, no one wants to take the responsibility of
|
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telling the American public this (UFOs) is real."
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|
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Consider a series of once-classified material on Project
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Aquarius:
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An Air Force document dated Nov. 17 1980, from the Office of
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Special Investigations at Rolling Air Force Base in Washington,
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D.C. to OSI at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico refers to a
|
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"request for photo imagery interpretation."
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|
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Other papers indicate that the request stemmed from a series of
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"alleged sightings of unidentified aerial lights" over the
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Manzano Weapons Storage Area at Kirtland between Aug. 8 and Sept.
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3, 1980.
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|
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An analysis of at least two pictures of the sightings concluded
|
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that the film was unaltered and that they were "legitimate
|
||
negative(s) if (an) unidentified aerial object," according to the
|
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Nov. 17 1980, document. Of the two confirmed sightings, one
|
||
"contained a trilateral insignia on the lower portion of
|
||
object...."
|
||
|
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The document also states:
|
||
|
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"The official U.S. government policy and results of Project
|
||
Aquarius is still classified top secret with no dissemination
|
||
outside official intelligence channels .... Because of a chance
|
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of public disclosure, no knowledgeable personnel with SPA (it's
|
||
not clear it SPA stands for Special Project Aquarius, or
|
||
something else) will be provided...."
|
||
|
||
But another Air Force document dated Jan. 25, 1983, says
|
||
"possible unauthorized release of classified material" cast doubt
|
||
on the authenticity of the Nov. 17, 1980, document. The later
|
||
document says the earlier one included nonexistent offices and
|
||
officers, it sought to discredit the validity of the purported
|
||
imagery interpretation.
|
||
|
||
When a Freedom of Information request letter dated Feb. 20, 1986,
|
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sought information on Project Aquarius, the National Security
|
||
Agency responded, in part, with a letter dated March 3, 1986:
|
||
|
||
"Please be advised that Project Aquarius does not deal with
|
||
unidentified aerial objects. We, therefore, have no information
|
||
to provide you on the subject."
|
||
|
||
But when U.S. Sen. John Glenn wrote the National Security Agency
|
||
on Jan. 7 of this year on behalf of a constituent who was having
|
||
trouble getting responses to Freedom of Information requests
|
||
about Project Aquarius, the reply letter, dated Jan. 27, said in
|
||
part:
|
||
|
||
"Apparently there is or was an Air Force project by that name
|
||
which dealt with UFOs. Coincidentally, there is also an NSA
|
||
project by that name. The NSA project does not deal with
|
||
UFOs...."
|
||
|
||
It is Goudie's contention that the responses about Project
|
||
Aquarius demonstrate the government is saying one thing and doing
|
||
another. He theorized that the government is reluctant to admit
|
||
the existence of even one UFO because as soon as it does, it
|
||
fears opening the door to mass
|
||
hysteria.
|
||
|
||
Spokesmen for the Pentagon, the Air Force and the National
|
||
Security Agency either declined comment or denied that any
|
||
government agency is actively investigating UFO's.
|
||
|
||
The Air Force quit studying UFOs in 1969 after a $500,000 study
|
||
conducted by the University of Colorado concluded that "UFO
|
||
phenomena do not offer a fruitful field in which to look for
|
||
major scientific discoveries," according to Capt. Jay DeFrank.
|
||
|
||
DeFrank noted that in 1977, President Carter asked the National
|
||
Aeronautic and Space Administration to look into the possibility
|
||
of resuming active investigation of UFOs.
|
||
|
||
This is the same man who in 1973, when he was governor of
|
||
Georgia, said, "I don't laugh at people anymore when they say
|
||
they have seen UFOs because I've
|
||
seen one myself."
|
||
|
||
NASA spokesman Dave Garrett recalls that agency's response to the
|
||
president: "We said, "Thank you, but no thank you." We have never
|
||
been in the business."
|
||
|
||
Dennis Chadwick, chief spokesman for the National Security Agency
|
||
at Fort George Meade in Maryland, an arm of the Pentagon, would
|
||
not say whether NSA or any other government agency is actively
|
||
investigating UFOs.
|
||
|
||
Goudie, a 45-year-old freelance ad man and former TV talk-show
|
||
producer, is not deterred by the government's stance. Two years
|
||
ago, he established a computerized UFO bulletin board - CUFON
|
||
(for Computer UFO Network) - that has more than 1,400 members.
|
||
It spits out information, free of charge, to anyone with a
|
||
computer and a modem.
|
||
|
||
He also runs UFP Information Service International, a global
|
||
network of UFO sightings, and Puget Sound Aerial Phenomena
|
||
Research Inc.
|
||
|
||
None of these enterprises, he says, is a moneymaking operation.
|
||
Goudie says he and others like him have been helped in their many
|
||
Freedom of Information requests by military personnel who want
|
||
the public to know about UFOs, but who can't afford to be named.
|
||
|
||
Many of the documents he's obtained indicate that "suspicious
|
||
unknown air activity" has occurred at top-security military
|
||
installations where nuclear weapon are stored.
|
||
|
||
The documents relating to UFOs dropping in on Air Force bases
|
||
have been published elsewhere - and professional skeptics such as
|
||
Philip Klass, an editor with "Aviation Week & Space Technology,"
|
||
have written books debunking the authenticity of those and other
|
||
sightings.
|
||
|
||
But Goudie notes the government itself has never volunteered any
|
||
information, much less any explanations, about UFOs at military
|
||
bases.
|
||
|
||
"You can explain anything away," says Goudie, referring to Klass
|
||
and the other debunkers, "But these aren't solid answers."
|
||
|
||
Goudie also says he has consulted with "optical physicists" who
|
||
have performed "video-negative photoanalysis" of video tapes of
|
||
UFOs to substantiate that the objects are not of this earth.
|
||
|
||
Goudie also says he has interviewed about 40 people over the
|
||
years who claim to have been abducted by UFOs. All occurred in
|
||
rural areas, including some episodes outside Redmond, in Maple
|
||
Valley and north of Seattle. He thinks about three-fourths of
|
||
them are telling the truth.
|
||
|
||
In many cases, the victims have suffered physical scars that they
|
||
didn't have before their encounter, Goudie says. "I've tried to
|
||
get these people to come forward. They don't want anything to do
|
||
with newspapers. They're scared to death of losing their
|
||
jobs..."
|
||
|
||
Considering the threat to national security and the risk to
|
||
civilians, Goudie believes the government has an obligation to be
|
||
more forthcoming.
|
||
|
||
You don't have to look to faraway places for physical evidence of
|
||
UFOs, according to Goudie. He has a videotape of an object
|
||
flying over Tacoma in 1982, enhanced by a process know as "video
|
||
negative photo analysis" which allows the viewers to see vertical
|
||
and horizontal lines within what Goudie calls "the plasma" that
|
||
covers the true shape within. He expects the video to air on
|
||
Sunday's Town Meeting" on KOMO.
|
||
|
||
Television, specifically a Dick Cavett shoe that aired in 1973,
|
||
stated Goudie's preoccupation with UFOs. He's since appeared on
|
||
CNN's Larry King Show and CBS-TV network news shows, among
|
||
others.
|
||
|
||
He has spent countless hours and dollars pursuing UFOs.
|
||
|
||
His goal, he says, is to see the subject become an area of
|
||
serious scientific inquiry.
|
||
|
||
"I'm doing it because I think people deserve the facts, and no
|
||
one's taking the time to do it."
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Paper : The Weekend Australian, June 27 - 28, 1987
|
||
Reporter: Christopher Hanson in Washington D.C.
|
||
Title : UFOs Swooped Over US Bases
|
||
|
||
Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) have been swooping over United
|
||
States military bases, causing concern in the Defence Department,
|
||
according to government documents released yesterday by a group
|
||
of UFO researchers.
|
||
|
||
The president of the Seattle based UFO Information Service Mr.
|
||
Dale Goudie, said the Defence Department documents, released on
|
||
the eve of a three-day conference on UFOs at American University
|
||
in Washington DC, were provided to him under the Freedom of
|
||
Information Act.
|
||
|
||
One US Air Force document, dated September 9 1980, describes the
|
||
sighting of UFOs by security guards at Kirtland Air Force Base in
|
||
New Mexico the month before. It said three guards, interviewed
|
||
separately, each described an "unidentified light in the air"
|
||
that swooped over a weapons storage area just before midnight on
|
||
August 8 1980.
|
||
|
||
It "travelled with great speed and stoped suddenly in the sky".
|
||
The three first thought the object was a helicopter. However,
|
||
after observing the strange aerial manoeuvres (stop and go), they
|
||
felt a helicopter couldn't have performed such skills... they
|
||
witnessed the light take off and leave proceeding straight up at
|
||
a high rate of speed, the document said.
|
||
|
||
( Secret )
|
||
|
||
Thirty minutes later, it said, another guard reported seeing a
|
||
similar craft at a nearby military research station. "After
|
||
driving closer, he observed a round disc-shaped object ...as he
|
||
approached on foot armed with a shotgun, the object took off in a
|
||
vertical direction at a high rate of speed. The guard was a
|
||
former helicopter mechanic in the US Army and stated the object
|
||
was not a helicopter."
|
||
|
||
Mr. Goudie said the reported New Mexico incident was one of many
|
||
at US military bases, but he provided no further documentation.
|
||
Another document released by the group, dated November 17 1980,
|
||
said film taken of UFOs travelling at high speed appeared to be
|
||
authentic and referred to a top secret Project Aquarius that
|
||
investigated UFOs.
|
||
|
||
Mr. Goudie said the Air Force, which gave him the document, could
|
||
not vouch for its authenticity. His group was hunting that up.
|
||
The document had evidently been in official files. He released a
|
||
January 27 1987 letter referring to Project Aquarius sent to
|
||
Senator John Glenn, an Ohio Democrat, by the National Security
|
||
Agency (NSA).
|
||
Reuters
|
||
By Bill Cox FLORIDA TODAY - and - USA TODAY Newspapers
|
||
|
||
June 28, 1987
|
||
|
||
Accusations fly as "ufologists" air concerns
|
||
|
||
-----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
|
||
"Information is available to anyone who knows what to ask for. I
|
||
think the records are compelling, and yet most Americans aren't
|
||
even informed about it."
|
||
|
||
- Dale Goudie, UFO Information Service
|
||
|
||
WASHINGTON DC - Two million people watched two mammoth
|
||
unidentified flying objects cruising at low altitudes between
|
||
Argentina and Chile on the afternoon of Aug.17, 1985. Soil and
|
||
vegetation samples underwent significant biochemical changes
|
||
folling a UFO landing at Trans en Provence, France, on Feb.8,
|
||
1981
|
||
|
||
After cataloguing nearly 6,000 UFO's over 40 years the Italian
|
||
government in 1984 directed its Air Force to keep a lid on the
|
||
investigations. Such claims were made here Saturday by UFO
|
||
investigators from around the planet as the International
|
||
Symposium on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena entered its second
|
||
day. The meeting, at the American University, drew more then 400
|
||
people, along with representatives of an assortment of media,
|
||
including Penthouse magazine, the Voice of America, Strange
|
||
Magazine, Omni magazine.
|
||
|
||
The Soviet news agency Tass, WKSG-FM in Detroit and the People's
|
||
Daily news paper of China. They registered to hear international
|
||
speakers from as far away as Australia and Great Britain accuse
|
||
their resective governments of UFO cover-ups.
|
||
|
||
Mr. Dale Goudie of Seattle Washington, displaying documents
|
||
thatreport on Air Force investigation of a purported UFO landing
|
||
at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico in 1980, asserted he was
|
||
getting support from a handful of congress-ional leaders to
|
||
conduct hearings on the phenomenon. We are not going after these
|
||
things as UFO's" Goudie said, distributing documents that he
|
||
obtained through the Freedom Of Information Act and that
|
||
werecompiled by the Air Force Office of Special Investigations.
|
||
Goudie said,"We'er going after it as a National Security
|
||
Problem," If these bases were indeed penetrated -- as they
|
||
apparently were -- then the NSA ( National Security Agency )
|
||
should have "interpreted that as an Aggressive Act, as an act of
|
||
War."
|
||
|
||
" This information is available to anyone who knows what to ask
|
||
for," Goudie said. "I think the records are compelling, and yet
|
||
most Americans aren't even informed about it. For some reason,
|
||
the mass media is reluctant to pursue this thing and I don't
|
||
understand why. Tom Dooley of San Antonio, who said he worked
|
||
for the NSA from 1978 to 1982, also voiced concern over the
|
||
alleged UFO penetrations of Kirtland. "Yes, it does disturb me,"
|
||
he said. Not because there were necessarily these UFO's that got
|
||
in but because it means that anything could get away with
|
||
something like that.
|
||
|
||
Dooley said the NSA itn't involved with collecting UFO data. I'm
|
||
sure if they were so concerned about flying saucers, they
|
||
would've said something to me about it, he said I was a founding
|
||
secretary for the Fund For UFO Research back in 1978. I made no
|
||
secrets about it. I even had bumper stickers pasted on my
|
||
locker.
|
||
|
||
The premise at the symposium this weekend has been that UFOs do
|
||
exist. In paying homage to the late Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a former
|
||
Air Force investigator and UFO skeptic-turned-believe, Temple
|
||
University historian David Jacobs said Hynek's death last year
|
||
marking the end of an era. If a new era is emerging in "ufology"
|
||
-the study of UFO's -it is concerned with the recent and
|
||
prevalent accounts of people having been abducted for short
|
||
periods by alien beings, some say. "Now, we're in a situation of
|
||
looking back at the external characteristics of the phenomenon
|
||
we've compiled over 40 years, and looking ahead to the
|
||
motiv-ations of the intelligence behind the phenomenon," Jacobs
|
||
said. We are on the verge of an intellectual breakthrough of
|
||
incalculable....importance.
|
||
|
||
For Zhang Yunwen, a Washington D.C. correspondent for China's
|
||
People's Daily, the UFO symposium was too good a story to pass
|
||
up. "No I have no information on attitudes of our government on
|
||
the UFO's," Zhang said. I don't think our government is involved.
|
||
But I do believe readers in China are interested in this. It's
|
||
not religious, it's not superstitous - it's a mystery. You can be
|
||
skeptical about this, but I think there are quite a few good
|
||
sightings which need some kind of research.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Mr. Klass issued the challenge which resulted in the above press
|
||
conference on The Larry King Show, CNN Network, when he appeared
|
||
with Mr. Goudie, May 14, 1987.
|
||
|
||
Upon his return to Seattle, Mr. Goudie called CNN asking them to
|
||
mediate the challenge and inform Mr. Klass that Mr. Goudie
|
||
accepted the challenge. Mr. Klass subsequently called Mr. Goudie
|
||
to discuss this matter. The June 3, 1987 letter from Mr. Goudie
|
||
to Mr. Klass reproduced on the following page confirmed the
|
||
content of that telephene call. A Postal Service return receipt
|
||
was signed June 8, 1987 by Mr. Klass.
|
||
|
||
Mr. Klass did not show up for the press conference. However he
|
||
did appear on The Sonya Live Show, CNN Network, the day following
|
||
the press conference with Mr. Goudie. Mr. Klass would not talk
|
||
about the information released at the press conference, nor has
|
||
he done so to this day.
|
||
|
||
Mr. Goudie was also interviewed on the CBS Radio Network News the
|
||
evening of the press conference, as well as subsequently making
|
||
various other television and radio appearances.
|
||
|
||
Mr. Philip J. Klass June 3, 1987
|
||
404 N St. Southwest
|
||
Washington, D.C. 20024
|
||
|
||
|
||
Dear Mr. Klass:
|
||
|
||
This is in response to our telephone conversation
|
||
wherein you requested confirmation concerning the press
|
||
conference which is going to be held in Washington D.C. on
|
||
Thursday, June 25th at 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon at the National
|
||
Press Club in the Zenger Room.
|
||
|
||
The press conference will focus on the alleged cover up by
|
||
certain agencies of the United States Government with regard to
|
||
the reality of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's) or
|
||
Unauthorized Aerial Objects (UAO's) and I will not say that you
|
||
are sponsoring the Press Conference, as you requested.
|
||
|
||
All documentation will be distributed to the members of the press
|
||
a few minutes before the press conference begins; and shall also
|
||
be distributed to any other individuals who attend, Senator John
|
||
Glenn's material will also be part of this package, as was
|
||
mentioned on the Larry King show on the CNN News Network May 14,
|
||
1987.
|
||
|
||
If I can be of further service to you, please do not hesitate to
|
||
call or write.
|
||
|
||
Sincerely,
|
||
|
||
/s/ Dale D. Goudie
|
||
|
||
|
||
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