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SUBJECT: LEN STRINGFIELD CIS CONF. FILE: UFO2175
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User User ID Nod Area Name
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1w 76012,3361 BMD Rm 5 Ted
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2 70511,17 CRZ Rm 5 Mike monitoring
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4 74017,3503 EVW Mes Rob Roberts
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3 71450,3504 FLM Rm 5 Bert
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4H 73077,1750 SEC Rm 5 GEO
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5 73457,1461 QIK Rm 5 TED STEVER
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6 71207,1165 JAX Rm 5 Terry
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7 73500,625 CGW Rm 5 John
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8H 73077,1750 SEC Rm 5 GEO
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9 71760,3173 DNC Rm 5 PHIL IMBROGNO
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10 73270,2115 HAM Rm 5 Jack
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11 73227,3712 DCI Rm 5 Kay S
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8H 73077,1750 SEC Rm 5 GEO
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12 71361,2562 MLB Rm 5 CHUCK
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3 71450,3504 FLM Rm 5 Ginny
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(Ted) Tonight Mr. Leonard Stringfield is our special guest. Mr.
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Stringfield is one of the foremost experts in the UFO crash retrieval
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field. He is the author of "Situation Red" and has written many
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papers, some of which have been presented at various national MUFON
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symposia over the years. Some of his material appeared a year or so
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ago in the January and February 1989 MUFON Journals. Special thanks
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tonight to Bert. Bert is at the "Keyboard" with Len and is the prime
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mover responsible for getting Len as a guest. Many thanks to Bert.
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Len, welcome! Any opening remarks?
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(5-3,Len) After a long day of discussion of my favorite subject I feel
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very resolute about the ufo crash retrieval syndrome and that the info
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I've collected over the past 13 years suggests that the crashes I'm
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aware of did take place and that we have alien discs and cadavers in
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custody. ga
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(Ted) Thanks Len. I will now open the floor to questions. Signify with
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a "?" or "!" if you have a question of comment. GA
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(5-9,PHIL IMBROGNO) ?
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(5-7,John) ?
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(5-9,PHIL IMBROGNO) Len I thought "Situation Red" was a great book. Is
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there any plans to reprint the book? Will it be released soon? Ga.
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(5-3,Len) The book had covered various areas of my research prior to
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1977, but there was very little in it of any consequence concerning my
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current interest in ufo crash retrievals, a subject which is so
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important if we are to ascertain the real story behind crash
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retrievals as proof of alien visitation. My efforts now are in the
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future in continuing my series of monographs or status reports on this
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subject. As you may know my most recent paper is my Status Report 5,
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which had been published in the MUFON journal a year or so ago. In
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these papers I hope to keep researchers informed of my progress. At
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this time there are no plans to have Situation Red reprinted. ga
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(Ted) John is next. GA John
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(5-7,John) I'll pass along Jim Speiser's question about John Lear: Are
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you still friends with Lear & how do you feel about his contribution
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to ufology? ga
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(5-3,Len) I still think it's important to maintain a good relationship
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with John Lear, despite the fact that he has be crucified the past
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year for his extraordinary disclosures. John visits me in my home
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occasionally and keeps me informed of his information and his views
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concerning the ufo problem. John readily admits that some of his
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information may be no more than disinformation. However, some of his
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sources he maintains are very credible. And that some of the
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information they share with him may someday turn out to be fact. I do
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not necessarily agree with the information imparted but I think to be
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objective in our work we should listen to John Lear and wait and see
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if it is of substance or otherwise. I have learned to have a lot of
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patience in my work and we must listen to all views and study all
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information no matter how bizarre. ga
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(Ted) Len, it seem as though the crash - retrieval reports are getting
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far and few between. Any new incidents?
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(Len) I don't think we can make a judgement on the timing of
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incidents which may have occurred and have been shushed up for the way
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being. In the meantime, my research continues on past cases and in
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this case my efforts are unrelenting. ga
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(Ted) So either the 'others' are getting better (fewer crashes) or we
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are getting better at covering up. I have lots more ? but what about
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the rest of you "shy" people? Like, Terry, Jack, Kay, CHUCK and Ted
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S. ga
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(5-10,Jack) ?
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(5-6,Terry) ?
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(5-11,Kay) !
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(5-10,Jack) Len. At the risk of becoming specific...we talk a lot
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about the Roswell incident. Would you say that Roswell is the most
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likely encounter with a true alien crash or just the most famous. Is
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(are) there other incidents which are more documented/believable ? ga
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(Ted) Good ? Jack it was going to be one of mine. GA Len
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(5-3,Len) Roswell remains the strongest case with a superabundance of
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first and second hand witnesses. I have 3 reliable witnesses ...one
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which is especially good whose claim is that he was aboard the B29
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conveying the bodies from Roswell to Carswell. In the past year and a
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half I've been working closely with Don Schmitt of CUFOS who has done
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a yeoman's job of researching the Roswell case. He has shared much of
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his information with me which is convincing and should open many eyes
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which were previously shut. Schmitt with co author Kevin Randall, will
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have a book published this coming fall with all the definitive
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details. ga
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(Ted) OK. John is next ga
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(5-7,John) (I'm getting a lot of screen runoff) When can we expect
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Status Report VI & will you be writing up anything on your own about
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recent Roswell revelations? ga
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(5-3,Len) If I should find the need to do status report 6 in the near
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future, I will probably include any update material on Roswell.
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However, I don't feel the info I have at this time warrants a status
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report. I have new sources promising information relative to other
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crashes but such is too premature at this time to release. ga
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(5-6,Terry) Ok, Len. Granting John Lear's apparent sincerity, and
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without questioning his integrity or honesty do you think that his
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"extraordinary revelations" about the Kennedy assassination cast any
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shadow upon his gullibility, and therefore upon his credibility as a
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second hand witness in UFO matters? ga
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(Len) Personally I don't see any relationship of the Kennedy movie
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with ufos. And if there is a connection we'll never know what it is
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anyway....in our lifetime. It's possible that Lear has [gone] into the
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deep end in this respect ....to come up with inconclusive data. ga
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(Ted) Kay is up GA.
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(5-11,Kay) Having done extensive research into the Roswell case, what
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is your opinion of the novel by Whitley Streiber? I've heard some
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people comment, that he has "Inside Information". GA
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(Ted) Good ? The book in ? is "Majestic" ga Len
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(Len) I think the Strieber book is strictly fiction. It does not jive
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with the data that I'm aware of. (Jive ---> jibe) It's hard to believe
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that Strieber would have inside information in such a short time,
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since he became know from his abduction book. ga
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(5-11,Kay) Well at least he admitted it was a novel this time GA
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(Ted) Ted Is next (Me!) Len, do you have an opinion on the Ed
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Walters/Gulf Breeze case? ga
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(Len) I never put my nose directly into the Gulf Breeze affair. I
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feel as though we have sufficient reliable investigators doing a good
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job. And at this time am dependent on their investigations. Apart from
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the Walters scenario, I'm aware of much ufo activity in the general
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Florida area and some of it may tie in very well with the Walters
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situation. ga
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(Ted) Can you tell us a bit about that activity. ga
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(5-3,Len) One incident involves air force interceptors pursuing ufos
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over a sensitive area.
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(5-11,Kay) ?
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(5-12,CHUCK) ?
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(Ted) Did the interceptors make "contact"? ga
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(5-3,Len) As usual, the ufos got away. ga
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(Ted) Kay is next GA Kay
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(5-11,Kay) Have you been in contact with any other researchers that
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are doing crash/retrieval work outside of the U.S.A? GA
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(5-3,Len) Of potential significance is a contact established in
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Russia. In a recent letter he plans to look deeper into 8 alleged
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crashes in Russia and promises to keep me advised. ga
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(TED) CHUCK is up GA
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(5-12,CHUCK) I got here a little late Len, have you personally seen
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hard evidence i.e. wreckage,from a crash?ga
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(5-3,Len) No. ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) About that Fla. report, can you elaborate as to north,
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Central, or South Florida? ga
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(5-3,Len) That would have been in the west near Pensacola and I'm
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checking into the authenticity of the report which I have in an
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alleged document and can't say more at this time. ga
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(5-11,Kay) ?
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(5-12,CHUCK) Any credence to stories of ufo sightings near kennedy
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space center?ga
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(5-3,Len) I know nothing of recent vintage. ga
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(Ted) Kay is up next ga
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(5-3,Len) One more beer and I'll tell all. ga
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(5-11,Kay) RE: Area 51, and the Bob Lazar Material. Have you seen any
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of the programs about him on videotape and don't you think the next
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step after retrieval is to try to reassemble/assemble them and try to
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make those babies fly? Do you have evidence that the hardware is being
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kept at WPatt or at Area 51? GA
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(5-12,CHUCK) ?
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(5-3,Len) I have heard the Lazar tapes and am in touch with George
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Knapp...he called me recently no new disclosures for airing at this
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time. I am aware of hardware that was maintained at WPatt in the past,
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but have no info about the current status. Undoubtedly, there is
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hardware being researched at Wright Patt which would very probably tie
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in with operations at Area 51 I have no first hand sources to verify
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this interaction. ga
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(5-11,Kay) What about (here I go) EBE's dead or alive? GA
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(5-3,Len) I know of a number of dead ones and have reports from
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seemingly reliable sources about some that lived a short period of
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time. In 1966, an Army Intelligence source told me there were as many
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as 30 bodies at WP. Probably there were others at medical
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institutions and elsewhere. ga
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(5-4,Russ Watkins) ?
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(5-11,Kay) BTW, I'll supply the beer, TELL All! (Smile) GA
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(Ted) CHUCK is next GA
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(5-12,CHUCK) Ok...(slurpin on a beer) Len, have you investigated any
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of the reports from the Hudson Valley sightings and is there any new
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activity going on in that area? ga
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(5-3,Len) I'm aware of heavy activity going on in the Eastern US at
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various locations, but nothing specifically in the Hudson Valley. ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) Any specifics? (used to be my old 'stompin grounds).ga
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(5-3,Len) Long Island...I understand that something crashed near
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Moriches Bay last September. Do you have any info in this regard? ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) no.ga
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(Ted) Terry is up GA
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(5-6,Terry) An old question, but do you have any believable
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information about the possibility that these entities are of vegetable
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origin? ga
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(5-3,Len) That's a new one! No info on that. My medical sources have
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not noted anything about a vegetative origin. ga
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(Ted) Lettuce rephrase that (or do you carrot all?) ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) <g>
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(5-6,Terry) Beets me.
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(5-6,Terry) Well, there's an udder possibility.
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(5-3,Len) Bearass someone else. ga
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(Ted) Ok Ok, guess I asked for it!...
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(5-12,CHUCK) <g>
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(Ted) Russ is up GA
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(5-4,Russ Watkins) I just read the MJ-12 file in the space section for
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the first time last night... how seriously is this taken? (You might
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already have covered this) I mean, it does sound a bit paranoid? ga
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(5-8,Bruce) ?
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(Ted) That is sort of an open ? Len care to comment? ga
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(5-3,Len) The MJ12 affair remains to this day unresolved. ga
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(Ted) I might add that a number of people take the MJ-12 issue very
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seriously. While I haven't read the material in the Space Forum, a
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number of people are spending money and time researching this. ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) ?
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(5-3,Len) Research indeed is warranted but proving that an MJ12 is or
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was for real requires further research. ga
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(5-4,Russ Watkins) Frankly, it struck me as more likely to be a
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DISinformation
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(Ted) Bruce is next. ga
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[At this point Ted got dumped for approximately 30 sec.]
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(5-8,Bruce) or those rather involved directly in any events of this
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nature ? ga
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(Ted) I got dumped!
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(5-3,Len) I feel comfortable with most of my 38 first hand independent
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sources....all pertinent to ufo crash retrieval cases. There's also
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well over 400 sources working through intermediaries. ga
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(5-6,Terry) !
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(5-8,Bruce) Any deathbed confessions or stuff like that?
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[Ted got dumped AGAIN!!!]
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(5-6,Terry) !
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(Ted) Sorry folks but I got dumped again! Did Len finish? ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) yes
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(5-6,Terry) !
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(Ted) Ok. Chuck is up ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) Nah. Go ahead. I'm just diggin' it.ga
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(Ted) Ok Terry is next
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(5-6,Terry) I just want to caution Bruce that one who puts an ear to
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the ground should keep a sharp eye out for earwigs. ga
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(5-8,Bruce) It's the brainwigs I fear :-] ga
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(Ted) How many of you out there are planning to go to the MUFON
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Symposium in July? ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) ?
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(5-6,Terry) Anne and me.
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(5-11,Kay) Not I
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(5-8,Bruce) Not me.
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(5-2,Mike) ?
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(Ted) I will try too. We need to wrap up here so I'll only take a few
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more ?s I have Chuck and Mike in que, GA Chuck
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(5-12,CHUCK) Ted, I would like to attend the symposium however, $$ are
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short. What would be the best days to attend? I am reasonably close (4
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hr. drive) is there a schedule on could obtain? ga
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(Ted) I haven't seen an agenda yet so it is hard to say. ga
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(5-2,Mike) ?
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(5-12,CHUCK) ga
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(5-2,Mike) Len have you personally viewed any EBE autopsy
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photos/reports and have you ever been visited by Men in Black or gov't
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personnel as a result of your work? ga
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(5-3,Len) First no MIB experience whatever I've been in touch with
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government personnel which has been so far to my advantage. Looking
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back into the beginning of my research in this area, I was on the
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receiving end of intimidations or, if you will, harassments. Regarding
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the EBE's, I've seen no authenticated photos and no autopsy report per
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se but received written information from medical source concerning
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alien anatomy. ga
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(Ted) I want to thank Len Stringfield for sharing his Sunday evening
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with us I know I enjoyed the discussion and look forward to hearing
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more from Len in the future. I also want to thank Bert for all the
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work he put into getting the evening put together
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(5-12,CHUCK) (I forgot about Bert!) hiya and thanx!
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(Ted) I also want to thank my good friends Shirley and George Coyne
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who provided the beer and facilities for tonigths CO. Hope to see
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you both in Pensacola this July. Will you be bring your hypnotist with
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you this time? ga
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(5-3,Shirley) Ginny will be there, and Bert and Dan Wright provided
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the beer tonight. By the way Ginny (our hypnotherapist) is in the room
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here now with the rest of us. Dan is, BTW, the Deputy director of
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MUFON in charge of investigations. A few other MUFON people are in the
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room enjoying the beer. You haven't lived until you've partied at the
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Coynes.
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(5-3 Shirley) Someone just abducted Len!
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(5-3,Shirley) Wait, some just abducted Len's beer (correction). ga
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(Ted) Hah! Hope to meet you all in Pensacola. Any last comments from
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anyone? ag
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(5-11,Kay) Thank You Len!! Good luck in the Future, Good Night All
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(5-8,Bruce) Thanks!
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(5-6,Terry) [Nite gang]
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(5-8,Bruce) Bye.
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(5-12,CHUCK) I hope to see you in Fla. ga
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(Ted) Nite all
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(5-3,Len) It's been a pleasure chatting with all of you. I hope that
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someday I can come up with the final proof that ufos are serious
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business and that we have the alien craft and cadavers if this is
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true, it will surely to prove that Phil Kl ass is way off target. ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) Shake the foundations of all that we believe in
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(5-2,Mike) Thanks Len, Bert and Ted...Good nite!
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(Ted) Nite all! ga
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(5-3,Bert) Night all. It's been fun. ga
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(5-12,CHUCK) G'nite
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(Ted) Thanks again Bert
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