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SUBJECT: REVIEW OF TIM GOOD'S BOOK ALIEN LIAISON FILE: UFO2109
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Late in September 1991, An envelope from England arrived in the Post Office
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Box of the UFO Reporting and Information Service. It contained a review of
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Chapter 10 "Cosmic Journey" from the recent book "Alien Liaison" by Timothy
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Good. The review raises serious questions about the quality of research done
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for said chapter of "Alien Liaison," and indeed about the integrity of Mr.
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Timothy Good.
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"Alien Liaison" was published in England By Century Publishing; and to the
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best of my knowledge, it is available in the United States only from Arcturus
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Book Service of Port St. Lucie Florida.
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The person who sent the paper is one "Dr. Armen Victorian." The name is a
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pseudonym of an energetic British researcher. He purports to be interested
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only in verified information, something well appreciated here. Some of Dr.
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Victorian's work can be read in the recent "UFO Crash/Retrievals: The Inner
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Sanctum Status Report VI", by Leonard H. Stringfield, privately published,
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July, 1991.
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I wrote Dr. Victorian a reply asking about his use of pseudonyms and for
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permission to post his review on Cufon since it seems, for the most part to
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be supported by documentation. Dr. Victorian wrote back granting permission
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to post his review and enclosing some additional related correspondence.
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The review and associated documents are reproduced below. I emphasize that
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this document is the work of Dr. Armen Victorian and that he has no
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connection whatever to CUFON or the UFO Reporting and Information Service.
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Any opinions expressed, or conclusions stated are those of Dr. Victorian, and
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are not necessarily those of CUFON, The UFO Reporting and Information
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Service, Dale Goudie or myself.
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Jim Klotz
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CUFON SYSOP
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Armen Victorian's Review of Chapter 10 of "Alien Liaison" by Timothy Good
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and associated documentation/correspondence
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UFO Reporting and Information service, Dr. Armen Victorian
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P.O.Box 832, P.O.Box: 99
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Mercer Island, West PDO
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Washington 98040 Nottingham, NG8 3NT
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USA England
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Date: 23 AUG 1991
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Dear Sir/Madam,
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Please find enclosed herewith a copy of the review on Mr. Timothy
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Good's recent book, Alien Liaison.
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It would be prudent to study the review prior to passing any
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judgement based on the your knowledge about Mr. Good.
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Sincerely,
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/s/ A. Victorian
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A. Victorian
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Encl: As attached
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A REVIEW OF "ALIEN LIAISON : TIMOTHY GOOD
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By: Armen Victorian
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August 1991
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The publication of Alien Liaison in my opinion has put yet another nail on
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the coffin of the UFOlogy which is already suffering from a mountain of
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distortion and mis-information from tabloid ufologists. "Governments do not
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have to do any more damage that what already what many ufologists in search
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of a few quick bucks or fame are doing themselves to the field. Why are you
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pointing your fingers continuously at us", ran the comments of one Major
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General to me, adding "No longer is it clear who is telling the truth when
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you guys are quoting us in your 'literature'", holding up the fingers of
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both hands as the sign of parentheses.
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Mr. Good's latest book by Century, was published in May, 1991. Soon
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afterwards, Mr. Good received wide media coverage largely due to ONE chapter
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in his book which added "punch" to make it a best seller. In England, he
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attended live radio shows and TV programs, which, via satellite link, also
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helped to bring his close associate, Mr. Bob Oechsler into the limelight.
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Bob Oechsler provided the main substance for "Cosmic Journey", chapter 10.
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ADM Lord Peter Hill-Norton, another close ally of Mr. Good, was quick on the
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mark by writing the "commentary" for the book without any proper
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consideration as to what he is writing might bear a sour fruit. Maybe he
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thought the title he held almost twenty-two years ago (Admiral of the Fleet -
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Chief of Defence Staff 1971 - 73) was the endorsement seal of accuracy for
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the accounts in the book, therefore adding to its controversy as yet another
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sale-point.
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Recently, another close ally of Mr. Timothy Good, Mr. Graham Birdsall, the
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Editor of Quest International UFO Magazine, which has on the board a serious,
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highly respected researcher like Mr. Tony Dodd, as the Director of
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Investigation and Research, without any consultation with him, dedicated
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almost eight pages of their recent issue to reviewing Mr. Good's book,
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appraising him as though he is the best thing ever happened to mankind. As
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one of their Directors put it, "This guy is turning this magazine into Tim
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Good Appreciation Society". But, there are reasons why Mr. Birdsall has gone
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out of town praising Mr. Good. there is apparently a deal between Tim Good
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and G. Birdsall, that if and when Mr. Birdsall finishes his book ( he has
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been busy writing it during the past three/four weeks). Mr. Good would make
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sure that it gets published. This was what I was told by yet another senior
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member of the Quest team.
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Amongst several pages of Mr. Birdsall's gobbly-gook, there is one particular
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passage which caught my eye (P. 25, Quest, Vol. 10, No. 4). There Mr.
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birdsall wrights "Objective researchers cannot dismiss the revelations made
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by some of the most senior figures in United States Intelligence, and one can
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do nothing but HEAP PRAISE on Timothy Good and his publishers Century, for
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having the courage to withstand pressure from that same American Intelligence
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Community that threatened all sorts of legal action if they went ahead and
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'named names'. "That" they said, "would breach US national security". On 30
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July 1991, I put this point to Mr. Mark Booth of Century Publication, who
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actually has edited Mr. Good's book "Alien Liaison". He replied that, there
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NEVER was any threat of any sort from any quarters, quite the reverse is
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accurate, we were worried that maybe the book would not sell after
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publication. (Recorded telephone conversation - Author).
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I was given a copy of the book and was asked to check the veracity and
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accuracy of one particular chapter, "Cosmic Journey", Chapter 10. During the
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months in which I contacted every single personality that has been named, or
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those whose names do not appear for the reason of adding a deliberate twist,
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creating a sale point for the book.
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My first contact was with Mr. Bob Oechsler, who apparently was the bonafide,
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main witness for this chapter. In the very first conversation I had with Mr.
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Oechsler (Taped telephone conversation), I asked him whether he is totally
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happy and satisfied the was Mr. good has put this chapter together. Mr.
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Oechsler answered, that he was not. He added that "Cosmic Journey Project",
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was mainly a commercial enterprise, and that Mr. Good has turned it into
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something somewhat different. He said he would have preferred to have it
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worded differently, and not to give the impression to the readership that it
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is a project, where the government is standing behind Ringling Brothers as a
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front. In the latest conversation had with Mr. Oechsler on 10 August 1991,
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when it was clear by then that many areas in that chapter raise very serious
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questions, he said that I should know by now that Mr. Good is nor a
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researcher, but an editor who collects material and puts them together.
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Similar comments also were made Mr. Jaime Shandrae to Mr. Grant Cameron, the
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Canadian UFO researcher, about Mr. Good.
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CHAPTER 10 - COSMIC JOURNEY
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Mr. Good begins this chapter by introducing ADM Bobby Ray Inman. from there
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he embarks upon referring to Mr. Oechsler's brief encounter with ADM Inman,
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(May 13, 1988, on the grounds of the Science and Technology Center of
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University of Maryland). At that brief encounter apparently Mr. Oechsler,
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after introducing himself, left his business card with ADM Inman, asking "I
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would be grateful if at some point you might have someone contact me about
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how I can get closer to MJ12". (See UFO Magazine "UFO Secret Team? "Control
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Factor' Stymies Ufology" by Vicki Cooper), and then writes extracts of Mr.
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Oechsler's telephone conversation with ADM Inman (The telephone conversation
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had taken place at 8AM, July 20, 1989. At that time Mr. good was staying
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with Mr. Oechsler - complete text of this telephone conversation which
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included Mr. Oechsler's speculation, was faxed to me by Mr. Oechsler). The
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published lines in the book, are somewhat taken out of context. According to
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Oechsler and Good, they represent the fact that ADM Inman is heavily involved
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with the UFO subject and its cover up. One particular question by Oechsler,
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and ADM Inman's answer (published in italic, page 191), has allowed the
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imagination of both Good and Oechsler fly wild and loose.
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Bob Oechsler: "Do you anticipate that any of the recovered vehicles would
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ever become available for technological research?"
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ADM Inman: "Again, I honestly don't know, ten years ago the answer would have
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been no. Whether as time has evolved they are beginning to become more open
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on it, there's a possibility. Again Mr. Hineman (retired Deputy Director of
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Science and Technology Division, CIA) probably would be the best person to
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put that kind of question to...".
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There is not once a single specific reference to the subject of UFOs in the
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entire text of the telephone conversation. Mr. Good by deliberately not
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publishing ADM Inman's letter of Dec. 18, 1989, that I re-produce here, has
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twisted the facts, representing totally a fabricated version of the truth.
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Quote: "Dear Mr. Good,
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Just a short note to thank you for your letters of 17 November and 7 december
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1989, and the copy of Admiral Lord Hill-Norton's letter to you. I did
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receive your book and appreciate your thoughtfulness for sending it. I look
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forward to reading it in the weeks ahead. Unfortunately, I do not know any
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information which could be of assistance to you for your UFO report. I would
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like to take this opportunity to wish you success in your findings.
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Please pass my very best wishes to Admiral Lord Hill-Norton when you have the
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opportunity.
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Sincerely,
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[Signed] B. R. Inman".
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After receiving the complete text of the telephone conversation, I asked Mr.
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Oechsler if anyone else but Mr. Good has listened to this telephone
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conversation that you have recorded? He gave me the name of a Mr. John
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Dingley. On 14 July 1991, I telephoned Mr. Dingley and asked him whether he
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had listened to the taped telephone conversation between ADM Inman and Mr.
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Oechsler. He confirmed that he had listened to the taped conversation. I
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asked him was the subject of UFOs ever mentioned in the entire conversation?
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He answered "NO".
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By then I had already contacted ADM Inman, enclosing page s of the book where
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he had been implicated, asking him for clarifications. On 26 July 1991, I
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received the following letter from ADM Inman. (Copy enclosed)
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"I received your letter of July 1st concerning Timothy Good's book Alien
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Liaison. I believe all these allegations to be false. Concerning your
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comments on a group of scientists called MJ12, I have no such awareness and
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do not believe such a group exists.
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[Author's comments: I deliberately included the MJ12 issue in my
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correspondence to him, because Oechsler claims that, it was the main lead
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in.]
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In summary, the book is filled with fabrication and distortions. My
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conclusion from the pages I have seen is that the book is without any merit.
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Signed: B. R. Inman."
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After receiving ADM Inman's letter, I contacted ADM Lord Hill-Norton on 1
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Aug. 1991. I read ADM Inman's letter and asked him what does he think about
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the letter. His reply was that, it is absurd what Inman is saying now. He
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should clarify why he made those comments to Oechsler. He went on to add
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that he is covering up, and he stuck by his commentary that, either he should
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shut up or to put up with it. (Taped telephone conversation).
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Although, I was not satisfied by what ADM Lord Hill-Norton had said and
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moreover, he gave me the distinct impression of believing everything Tim Good
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tells him, or gives him to read, due to some passing comments he made in that
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regard, I decided to get back to ADM Inman. In another letter to ADM Inman,
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which was faxed to his office, 2 Aug. 1991, asking him:
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"As an objective researcher in trying to establish the intentions of each
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parties involved in the course of these events, which gave "enough
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confidence" to the author of the above mentioned book (T. Good), and his
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assistant Mr. Bob Oechsler, in compelling, studying and editing the data,
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which he thought to be accurate, there remains a few areas which would
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require an ultimate clarification by you.
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What did you think Bob Oechsler was inquiring about? It is still obscure
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what your understanding was about the topic of the conversation? Perhaps I
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should add that Bob Oechsler maintains that in his initial approach to you,
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when he gave you his card, he mentioned to you clearly and briefly that he
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required your assistance in contacting a member/members of the MJ12. He
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maintains that you accepted his card, and in a cordial manner "Okayed" it".
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I enclosed a copy of my letter to ADM Inman with the following covering
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letter, dated 5 August, 1991 and sent them to ADM Lord Hill-Norton.
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"dear sir,
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Enclosed are the two letters I discussed about.
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There are certainly areas of serious flaws in the manner by which the "data"
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has been presented by the representers on the main characters in chapter 10
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of the book, "Alien Liaison". It is no secret, which concerns myself and the
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dignified high ranking officers, whose names have been mentioned, but the
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truthfulness and exact, factual representation seems to bear some serious
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questions.
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Although, by writing my last letter to ADM Inman, I have tried to ask him to
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clarify the grey areas, the seriousness of the issue referred to in my
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previous paragraph over-rules such a request.
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Signed-Author."
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On 6 August 1991, I received a reply from ADM Inman, dated 5 Aug. 1991, which
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I reproduce in its entirety here-below.
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"Dear Dr. Victorian,
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In response to the request in your letter dated 2 August 1991 for an
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"ultimate clarification" by me re Mr. Oechsler, I provide the following:
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a. I receive hundreds of calling cards each year from individuals who
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approach me at public appearances. I have no specific recollection of the
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receipt of a calling card from Mr. Oechsler prior to our telephone
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conversation.
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b. I have never heard of any organization called MJ12 nor did I have any
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understanding from Mr. Oechsler about his seeking information an a specific
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organization. His use of Admiral Lord Hill-Norton's name was the principal
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factor in my having a conversation at all with Mr. Oechsler.
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c. Having no prior knowledge of Mr. Oechsler's interest, I did not
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understand until well into his dialogue that his research was about
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Unidentified Flying Objects.
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d. Throughout 22 years of service in intelligence community, I have never
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encountered any credible evidence of the existence of extraterrestrial or
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interplanetary entities, individuals, crafts, vehicles, or persons. I do not
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believe any credible evidence of such activity exists.
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I have been advised by RADM Shapiro that Mr. Oechsler totally misrepresented
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both the nature and content of their conversation.
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I remain persuaded that complete misrepresentation of my views and those of
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RADM Shapiro has occurred and thus I distrust any and all stories and
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conclusions that have been conveyed.
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I hope you will entertain no further doubts about my views.
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Sincerely,
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[signed] B. R. Inman
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After the receipt of the above letter, there was still one clause which
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required yet further clarification by ADM Inman. The word "dialogue", could
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have a broad interpretation. I needed to know what precisely ADM Inman meant
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by that.
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On August 12, 1991 I contacted ADM Inman's office, and I spoke to Mr. Tom
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king, the Executive Assistant to ADM Inman. I explained to him the nature of
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my inquiry, asking him for further clarification by ADM Inman. I was asked
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to contact the following day. On August 13, 1991, I was told by Mr. Tom
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King, that I can go on the record by what he was told by ADM Inman, in
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response to my inquiry, Mr. King said, what ADM Inman meant in clause (C) of
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his last letter to you (5AUG. 1991), is that, only after Mr. Oechsler had
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spoken with RADM Shapiro, in pursuit of his inquiry, it had become clear to
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ADM Inman, through RADM Shapiro, that Mr. Oechsler's inquiry was about UFOs.
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ADM Inman had absolutely no prior knowledge of the topic of Mr. Oechsler
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inquiry before that.
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I had already contacted RADM Sumner Shapiro (Retired, ONI Director) on August
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3, 1991. I asked RADM Shapiro whether he met Bob Oechsler. he replied "He
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claims to have met me". I Repeated my question. He answered; "He met me in
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one occasion and I realized that he was a fraud. He had arranged a meeting
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with me under fraudulent circumstances, and I dismissed him almost
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immediately. I never had a meeting with him in a restaurant. (See p. 195,
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where Mr. Oechsler alleges that he met with RADM Shapiro for the first time
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in a restaurant) as he is suggesting in that book. I never discussed any of
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that material with him."
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I asked RADM Shapiro what did Mr. Oechsler introduce himself as? He answered
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"He introduced himself as a[n] independent..... he didn't even describe what
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he was doing initially in order to see me. He said that he has been referred
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to me by somebody (Inman) that should contact me. I tried to contact that
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person to verify, he was out of the country. I finally agreed that I will
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meet him. And then, all he had was his card that described himself as some
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sort of a robotic expert or something. You know, a complete sham." (Taped
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recorded conversation).
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I then contacted Mr. Robert W. Kirchgessner, which was the Director of
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Special Development Group. Ringling Bros. & Barnum and Bailey, at that time.
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Mr. Kirchgessner with his direct answers cast a great deal of light on the
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subject matter thereby revealing the length and breadth of distortion to
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present THEIR own version of "Cosmic Journey".
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I asked Mr. Kirchgessner to describe what took place in the course of their
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contacts with Mr. Bob Oechsler and Mr. Timothy Good.
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He said: "Robert Oechsler's situation is a, let m put it like this, Robert
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Oechsler was recommended to us by Timothy Good, we met with the man ONE time.
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We determined very very quickly that he was a total INCOMPETENT. This fact
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is illustrated when the gentleman approached us, coming in and telling us
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from everything, from the fact that he could deliver us a UFO, to whether he
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had a government agency watching him and we were sitting in a restaurant here
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in Orlando with him, when we were invited him down here, paying all his
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costs, to speak to him. (This particular factor was further confirmed to me
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by Mr. Robert Kenneston, in a separate telephone conversation with him in his
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Los Angeles office, on 12 Aug. 1991 [taped recorded conversation]. He was a
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witness in that meeting, and held a separate discussion with Mr. Oechsler, as
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part of the same meeting). Trying to do the best research that we could.
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And he perceives and comes out with the statement that the CIA people are
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tracking him and they were sitting and watching him in the restaurant. The
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man was...he was not with the reality at the time in my opinion. We had
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elected not to proceed forward with him in any way, shape or form. The only
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question that I felt remaining with the call that I received regarding Robert
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Oechsler, was whether or not somebody else in the Ringling Corporation had
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hired him to do additional research without my knowledge. Which was always
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possible within our company (Author: "Yes, Mr. Chuck Smith")..right, Chuck
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Smith was my immediate superior. Chuck met various people, he usually would
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utilise them to continue to look into subject matters, if they had any
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knowledge at all. to my knowledge at this time, he had never spoken to nor
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had he been in communication with, nor had gone any further than my initial
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confidential report to him, stating that this (Mr. Oechsler) is one gentleman
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that we should NOT do business with. And to this date that is the position
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that Chuck has taken in regards to this.
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I asked Mr. Kirchgessner how Mr. Timothy Good became involved? He replied
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that they decided not to have anything to do with Mr. Good due to the high
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fees he had asked for. Mr. Kirchgessner's answer to this question is quite
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contradictory to what Tim Good has written in his book. On page 151, Mr.
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good writes "Following further discussions, I was invited to become the
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'Official Consultant on UFO research' to the Special Development group. A
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personal meeting in Orlando, Florida, was pre-requisite, the director said,
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and since I would be visiting Gulf Breeze during October, I made arrangements
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to fly to Orlando. Unfortunately, DIFFICULTIES with airline scheduling
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arose, allowing inadequate time for the trip, and I was obliged to postpone
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the meeting".
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I put to Mr. Kirchgessner what Mr. good had published, he said it is simply
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not true, we dropped him because of the sums he was asking as his fees. Then
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Mr. Robert Oechsler appeared on the horizon.
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Mr. Kirchgessner told me that Mr. Oechsler had asked for either $1200 or
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$2000 per day for his work (He couldn't remember the exact figure off hand).
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He had added that they asked Capt. Gene Cernan, ex-NASA astronaut, who is a
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director on the board, to check Mr. Oechsler's credentials regarding his NASA
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background. gene Cernan reported that Mr. Oechsler has NEVER held the
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position he claims in NASA, but it is possible that he has worked as a junior
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technician either with NASA or with a NASA sub-contractor, in which case his
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name would not have been known anyway. I contacted Gene Cernan on 8 Aug.
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1991, after reaffirming what Mr. Kirchgessner has said, he further added that
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the Cosmic Journey project never went any further than the drawing board.
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(Taped telephone conversation).
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A day before, 7 Aug. 1991, I contacted Miss Sussan Brewer, who works with Mr.
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Kirchgessner and was a witness in the Orlando meeting, between Mr. Bob
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Oechsler and them. i asked her by reading out the passage of the book on
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page 197 (Alien Liaison) where Mr. good states that the project (Cosmic
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Journey) had the approval of the President Bush and Vice President Quayle.
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She answered; "It is a good question. as far as Bob (Kirchgessner) is
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concerned, when he worked with Gene Crenan, Gene Cernan presented the project
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to Vice President Quayle representing President Bush, then yes, I would
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assume it would go to the top. (Note: The way Mr. Good has referred to this
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point in his book, adds more vigor to his version of the story as to Cosmic
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Journey was initially a government based project).
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She further added "Let me tell you that when Mr. Oechsler came here to
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Orlando, I was present. We were very kind and polite, but we realized that
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he was a little off the wall". I also put to her what Mr. Kirchgessner had
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told me about Mr. Oechsler's promise in providing them with a genuine UFO.
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She immediately followed up by saying "A genuine UFO plus a spaceship". I
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asked her whether it was in writing or verbal. She replied "Verbal, but
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there were four other people at the table, you know they fell off their
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chairs". I asked if she could give me their names as a matter of record.
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She answered "I was one of them, the other young man was Brownell Schlubach,
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he used to work with us at SDG, then Bob Kirchgessner, and the other
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gentleman's name was Don Branch, he was the Manager of Design for SDG". She
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further added that "after we realized what sort of person we were dealing
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with, we did not have anything to do with a person with such a fanatical
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representation."
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Following my inquiries into other areas of chapter 10, Cosmic Journey, I was
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quite intrigued by what Mr. good had written about "THE PENTAGON MEETING"
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(See p.198/9/200/1, Alien Liaison). I was determined to locate the GENERAL
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who had apparently scared the life out of Mr. Oechsler. Mr. Oechsler had
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stated in the course of one of his telephone conversations with me that,
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whilst in Florida the Ringling Bros. team had said to him that a variety of
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people were involved, and their names were mentioned to him. A week after
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returning from Florida he received a call from the "general". He added that
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he would not like to "Fuck around" with that general, after his alleged
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encounter experience of November 17, 1989, (Taped telephone conversation with
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Mr. Oechsler 7 Aug. 1991) "While resting in a Dallas cocktail lounge", that
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he still thinks was the general's doing. Mr. Good illustrates Mr. Oechsler's
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impressions and thoughts relating to this "Alien Intrusion" as "The sensation
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in the back of Bob's head reminded him of the security machine at the
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Pentagon, which had induced a 'tingling' sensation at the back of his head.
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was there some connection perhaps?" (See p. 202 in the book).
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With the help of the members of our research group, I managed to discover the
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identity of the General concerned. Mr. Oechsler too independently, in the
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course of our telephone conversation on Aug. 9, 1991, by revealing his name
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to me further confirmed our finding (Taped telephone conversation). Mr.
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Oechsler emphasized that he did not want his name to be mentioned in the
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course of my inquiry with the General.
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On August 8, 1991, I contacted Lt. General Thomas P. Stafford, the
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distinguished ex-NASA astronaut in his Oklahoma office. he was the alleged
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"GENERAL" in Mr. Good's book.
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I mentioned to Tom Stafford that I have received a copy of the Cosmic Journey
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project (Mr. Good's book), and I understand that he had met Mr. Oechsler on
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November 13, 1989, in order to discuss about the project with him. He
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answered that he does not remember meeting Mr. Oechsler. I pointed out that
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in that particular meeting, one of the topics was about the type of alien/ET
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to be put on the show in a cryogenic tank (See p. 199, Alien Liaison). I
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asked him whether he recalls that. He said that he does not remember. Tom
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Stafford asked me about the date of he meeting. After i gave him the date he
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said no, he cannot remember such a meeting. Then he asked where was the
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meeting supposed to have taken place. Again, I told him "in the Pentagon".
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Then I proceeded by trying to refresh his memory, and referred to the
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security device that Mr. Oechsler had apparently passed through and had
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discussed with the General )See p. 199). he replied "Bullshit, tingling?" I
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answered yes, and read the quotation made on page 198 of the book. he asked
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by whom. I replied by Mr. Oechsler. Tom Stafford in reply to my question
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that I had repeated again, referring to exhibiting a alien corpse in a
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cryogenic tank, re[plied "I don't remember Mr. Oechsler" and he "doesn't know
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anything about it". He later added again that he has just finished an eleven
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months study for the White House and NASA about how to get back to the Moon
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and Mars, which he had referred to very briefly at the beginning. And added
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that he doesn't know anything about what I was talking about. I told him
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about the publication of Mr. Tim Good, and added that although he has not
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been mentioned by name, however the General in the passage is him. I said
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that Mr. Oechsler himself has confirmed this to me.
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He said that he invented the stealth bomber and "Sure started the F-117A
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fighter, but that was years ago". Although he goes to the Pentagon
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occasionally to meet friends, he does not have office there. I put to him
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that his alleged office according to Mr. Oechsler was in the basement section
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of the Pentagon, where Mr. Oechsler allegedly met with him. I asked him "Am
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I correct, or do I have the wrong information?" He answered "You've got the
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wrong information. I was down at SDI in Star Wars. I was down there
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occasionally, but I have no office there". In reply to my question about his
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knowledge about the alien entities, he answered, that he has never seen them,
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although he has been to space four times. When I questioned him whether he
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has any evidence about flying saucers, he said "Hell NO". (Taped telephone
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conversation with Thomas P. Stafford).
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ANTI-GRAVITY CHAMBER
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It was not difficult to locate the facilities about which Mr. Tim Good has
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written (See P. 202/3/4, in the book)
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The complex to which Mr. Oechsler claims to have been taken to "during the
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second week of January 1990" exists.
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After introduction, I asked Linda Billica, assistant Test Director for
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Reduced Gravity Office, NASA, who actually works in that facility. "I would
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like some information about your Anti-Gravity Chamber, is it operational
|
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now?" She replied "Anti-Gravity Chamber, you mean our aircraft?" I
|
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explained to her exactly what I was looking for. She replied "There is NO
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anti gravity chamber as such. We do have an airplane which flies parabolas
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and we can provide a half minute or so at each time." I then referred to the
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book, and read out the passage to her. She replied "Here, There is
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absolutely NO anti gravity chamber. She went on to explain in more detail
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about the KC-135 Boeing, padded aircraft which is used for training the NASA
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astronauts. I told her that I would fax to her the passage from the book,
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and asked her if she would care to provide me in writing that she had told
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me. She had no objections.
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I am now in the process of looking into the events which allegedly took place
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on the NORAD Platform.
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Based on my inquiries so far, there is no credible evidence of what Mr. Good
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has written in his chapter 10 that is proven. I should also remind readers
|
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that the people that I have talked to were unaware about the publication of
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Timothy. Good's book. And although Mr. Good has thanked a great many people
|
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in his book and has sent copies of his book to the majority of them, he has
|
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failed to do the same for the people I have talked to. Equally important,
|
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every serious piece of research is only credible when it has been sighted and
|
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verified by those people whose roles and names constitute the back-bone of
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the researcher's findings. In fulfilling his obligations in this regard, Mr.
|
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good has been discriminately selective. Whilst a chosen few have been
|
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addressed for their approval of his writing about them, such as Mr. Oechsler,
|
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a great many, deliberately and intentionally have been ignored. Ironically,
|
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even among those recipients, from whom Mr. good had asked their approval for
|
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his writing about them, some chose to ignore Col. William Coleman, fro
|
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example, is one such person, who as a mark of protest decided neither reply
|
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nor approve the material. His protest went unheeded. Mr. Good as
|
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previously, decided to go ahead and include a part about Col. Coleman. Col.
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Coleman is still critical of what Mr. Tom Good published in his previous
|
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book, Above Top Secret, about him. Mr. good had promised to put the record
|
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straight in the re-print, apparently he hasn't.
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I think, the ufologists should know that "out there" there are some
|
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unscrupulous tabloid writers, for whom morality is weighed up by the sum of
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money they obtain from their outputs. In their books, everyone seems to be
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expendable.END.
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SAIC
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Science Applications International Corporation
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An Employee Owned Company
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July 26, 1991
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Dr. Armen Victorian
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P. O. Box 99
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West PDO
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Nottingham, NG8 3NT
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England
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Dear Dr. Victorian,
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I received your letter of July 1st concerning Timothy Good's book
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Alien Liaison. I believe all these allegations to be false.
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Concerning your comments on a group of scientists called MJ12, I
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have no such awareness and do not believe such a group exists.
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In summary, the book is filled with fabrication and distortions.
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My conclusion from the pages I have seen is that the book is
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without any merit.
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Sincerely
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/s/ B. R. Inman
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B. R. Inman
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9442 Capitol of Texas Highway North, Arboretum Plaza One, Suite 685,
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Austin Texas 78759 (512) 343-2200
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SAIC
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Science Applications International Corporation
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An Employee Owned Company
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August 5, 1991
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Dr. Armen Victorian
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P. O. Box 99
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West PDO
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Nottingham, NG8 3NT
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England
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Dear Dr. Victorian,
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In response to the request in your letter dated 2 August 1991 for an
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"ultimate clarification" by me re Mr. Oechsler, I provide the following:
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a. I receive hundreds of calling cards each year from individuals
|
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who approach me at public appearances. I have no specific recollection
|
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of the receipt of a calling card from Mr. Oechsler prior to our telephone
|
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conversation.
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b. I have never heard of any organization called MJ12 nor did I have
|
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any understanding from Mr. Oechsler about his seeking information an a
|
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specific organization. His use of Admiral Lord Hill-Norton's name
|
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was the principal factor in my having a conversation at all with Mr.
|
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Oechsler.
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c. Having no prior knowledge of Mr. Oechsler's interest, I did not
|
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understand until well into his dialogue that his research was about
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Unidentified Flying Objects.
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d. Throughout 22 years of service in intelligence community, I
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have never encountered any credible evidence of the existence of
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extraterrestrial or interplanetary entities, individuals, crafts,
|
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vehicles, or persons. I do not believe any credible evidence of such
|
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activity exists.
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I have been advised by RADM Shapiro that Mr. Oechsler totally
|
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misrepresented both the nature and content of their conversation.
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I remain persuaded that complete misrepresentation of my views and
|
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those of RADM Shapiro has occurred and thus I distrust any and all
|
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stories and conclusions that have been conveyed.
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I hope you will entertain no further doubts about my views.
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Sincerely,
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/s/ B. R. Inman
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B. R. Inman
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9442 Capitol of Texas Highway North, Arboretum Plaza One, Suite 685,
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Austin Texas 78759 (512) 343-2200
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Linda W. Billica
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NASA Johnson Space Center
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CC32
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Houston, TX 77058
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August 12, 1991
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Dr. Armen Victorian
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P. O. Box 99
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West PDO
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Nottingham, NG8 3NT
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England
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Dear Dr. Victorian,
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The material you sent me from the book, Alien Liaison, is not based on
|
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fact:
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1. No one by the name of Bob Oechsler was ever manifested to fly with
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us on the KC-135.
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2. Ellington Field has been an Air Force BAse since 1976.
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3. There are no billeting facilities at Ellington Field.
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4. The shuttle's Remote Manipulator System (the "arm") was designed by
|
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canada, has been operating for years, and has never required any such
|
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"reconfiguration."
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5. NASA has no "anti-gravity chamber" anywhere. As I explained over
|
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the phone, we fly a KC-135 aircraft in a series of parabolas to obtain
|
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short periods of microgravity.
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6. Protein crystals have nothing to do with superconductive materials.
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7. NASA has no "bunker-like building north of Houston" and no "alien
|
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craft."
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8. Absolutely no effort is underway to design or build any
|
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"ground-based anti-gravity chamber."
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I'm sorry Dr. Victorian, but Alien Liaison is hogwash. I do not wish
|
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to have my name or my organization's name associated with it in any way.
|
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Sincerely,
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/s/ Linda W. Billica
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Linda W. Billica
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Following are the additional letters forwarded by Dr. Victorian in his reply
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National Aeronautics and NASA
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Space Administration
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John F. Kennedy Space Center
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Kennedy Space Center, Florida 32899
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PA-B September 26, 1991
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Mr. S. E. Victorian
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P. O. Box 99
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West PDO
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Nottingham, NG8 3NT
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England
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Dear Mr. Victorian:
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This is in response to your request to the FOIA Office at NASA
|
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Headquarters for records pertaining to "COSMIC JOURNEY."
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No Agency records can be identified or located at Kennedy Space
|
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Center responsive to your request. If you think Rockwell International was
|
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involved in the project, you might wish to
|
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address a request to them.
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Sincerely,
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/s/ Mary Jo Tippett
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Mary Jo Tippett
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FOIA Administrator
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Letter from A. Victorian to Dennis Stacy
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Mr Dennis Stacy, Dr. Armen Victorian
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Editor, MUFON P. O. Box 99
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Box 12434 West PDO
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San Antonio, TX 78214 Nottingham, NG8 3NT
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USA England
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Date: 04 OCT 1991
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Dear Mr. Stacy,
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Mr. Good's reply to Mr. Johnson's review of his book is quite
|
|
hilarious. there are some very serious flaws in Good's response.
|
|
Once again he has deliberately twisted the facts to suit his re-
|
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quirement.
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I would like to respond to the point Mr. Good has raised in his
|
|
letter in the order they are mentioned:
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I have a TAPED TELEPHONE CONVERSATION with the editor of Good's
|
|
book. He CONFIRMS that there NEVER was any threats of any kind
|
|
from any quarters. In fact they were worried that the book might
|
|
not go down well. Indeed, if there would be any forthcoming
|
|
threats or prosecution. I can assure Mr. Good that it would not
|
|
be for his alleged "Violation of US National Security" by the of-
|
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ficers implicated in his "Tale of the Two Cities"., but for repre-
|
|
senting a distorted and fabricated version of FACTS by him and
|
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Oechsler, in his book. I should add that, during my research into
|
|
the veracity and accuracy of chapter 10, "Cosmic Journey", in
|
|
more than one occasion and by more than one high-ranking officer
|
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was told that they reserve the right to press charges.
|
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|
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The main bulk of research on other cases that Good has referred
|
|
to, is conducted by other researchers. Good has merely copied
|
|
them without even checking their accuracy or validity. In fact
|
|
Good's version of a Puerto Rican case, which he has written more
|
|
extensively in his report 1991 and his current book, has some
|
|
serious accuracies inaccuracies. Furthermore, the credibility of
|
|
some of the so called researchers he has made referenced to, is
|
|
highly questionable . not mentioning that by equating these bunch
|
|
of opportunity seekers with other serious, good researchers, he in
|
|
fact has insulted the entire field.
|
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|
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He takes pride of the praise of a third grade tabloid paper in
|
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England, Glasgow Herald. Quite rightly so. because, for the first
|
|
time he has been appraised by a paper of his own grade of work.
|
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I dare to say they are two of a kind.
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He claims that ADM Inman has conceded to the topic of conversa-
|
|
tion. him and Oechsler claim (UFOs). Once again, by distorting
|
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the facts he is fabricating a twisted agenda, totally out of con-
|
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text, as his proof. Tim Good is indirectly referring to ADM Inman
|
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second comprehensive letter to me (See my review report). What
|
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Mr. Good deliberately fails to qualify is the fact that ADM Inman
|
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has clarified that particular clause of his letter, even further.
|
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Good in an insidious manner is hiding the fact that neither ADM
|
|
Inman nor RADM Shapiro could make any head or tail of what
|
|
Oechsler was talking about, not until Mr. Oechsler took out the
|
|
model of the alleged "alien head", when Sam Shapiro noticed what
|
|
Oechsler has been trying to convey. After that it did not take
|
|
long before Oechsler was out of that house. ADM Inman has clearly
|
|
clarified this point. As to Ringling Corporation's involvement,
|
|
there is absolutely nothing to hide. here again Mr. Good points
|
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the danger towards Ringling Corporation accusing them of cover
|
|
up. He does not have the courage to explain the truth. There
|
|
NEVER was any problem with the airline schedules, as Tim Good
|
|
claims as his excuse for not having been able to attend in the
|
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meeting. What Good says id poppy-cock. He was dropped because of
|
|
his greediness, and enormous appetite for MONEY. Apparently what
|
|
he had asked for was utterly ridiculous. that equally applies to his
|
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fellow colleague Bob Oechsler, a junior ex-technician with a NASA
|
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sub-contractor. Mr. Oechsler had asked for over $1200 per/day as
|
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his fees. I would like to ask the question from the gang of two.
|
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If their wishes were fulfilled, and Ringling Brothers had forked
|
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out the sums they were looking for, would they still accuse them
|
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of cover-up, or would have been praised for excellent work
|
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of uncovering the cover-ups? Good accused Mr. Johnson for ul-
|
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terior motives. Whilst it is he, himself who with a false
|
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pretence and claims of the provider of "crucial evidence" that
|
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many have failed to come up with, has the ulterior motives. Rin-
|
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gling Corporation offered to provide him with perfect platform to
|
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further the research. Instead greed overcame the shallow veneer
|
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of research.
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It is quite shameful to witness that some of the researchers who
|
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are supposed to be a leading example to the UFO community, in-
|
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stead resort to such methods of self promotion.
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Sincerely,
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/s/ A. V.
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A. Victorian
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