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SUBJECT: MSG THREAD ON THE PHOENIX PROJECT FILE: UFO1543
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PART 2
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* Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO Echo"
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* Originally from ParaNet Information Service
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* Originally dated 08-20-92 13:23
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<..Continued from previous message>
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No. ParaNet has long questioned both of those sacred cows. To this
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point we have seen no acceptable proof for the existence of any
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underground alien base near Dulce, nor have we seen adequate proof for
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the existence of "Operation Majestic Twelve". We have publicly stated
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as much on many occasions.
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PP> According to our sources within the intelligence community, the
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PP> Dulce Scam, perpetrated by the disinformation specialists of MAJI,
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PP> better known to you as Majestic Twelve with help from the CIA and
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PP> NSA, is considered one of their most brilliant success stories.
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But, of course, these "sources" cannot be named, and all we have to go
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on is your word that they even exist. And, unfortunately, you are
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making a concerted effort to keep anyone from knowing who *you* are,
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either. Anonymous stories relayed by anonymous story tellers. Sorry,
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but that's not "evidence".
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PP> We sent in experienced investigators, not amateurs, to check out
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PP> the alleged Dulce Base. Those people knew what to look for, how to
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PP> look for it, how to get answers, and are not easily mislead.
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We have no evidence for this except your say-so.
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PP> If you do not agree with our findings, get off your posterior, go
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PP> to Dulce, and check it out for yourself.
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We have.
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PP> In fact, we invite
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PP> anybody to do the same thing. We're sure you'll find exactly what
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PP> we did ...
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We didn't.
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PP> You imply that you're good at asking questions -- how are you at
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PP> answering them? We have a few questions ... Would you mind sharing
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PP> with all of us, everyone on the BBS's and the public, what hard
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PP> evidence you have that, without question, supports the presence and
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PP> validity of the Dulce Base.
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Would you mind sharing what hard evidence you have that we ever said
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anything of the kind? We have never said anything in support of the
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presence of a secret alien base at Dulce. In point of fact, we
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consider it extremely unlikely that any such base exists--at Dulce or
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anywhere else. That's one of the reasons we have so much trouble with
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your "K-2" report, which purports to document the existence of just
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such a base in California.
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PP> Unless you have irrefutable
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PP> evidence to present, made available for public scrutiny and
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PP> evaluation, which invalidates the findings of the Phoenix Project
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PP> regarding Dulce, K-2, or the Ultimate Secret, or our future
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PP> reports, back off. Either put-up or shut-up. In other words, get
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PP> off our back.
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All right, challenge accepted. Let's start with this statement from
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your "Ultimate Secret" report:
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PP> According to eye-witness testimony, the CIA
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PP> agent in charge of this covert operation, wearing the
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PP> uniform of an AF Colonel, was William C. Cooper. ...
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PP> This witness testifies that this is the
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PP> same William C. Cooper, who has been prominent since 1988
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PP> in the civilian UFO movement.
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Is this "William C. Cooper" supposed to be the famous Bill Cooper we
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have all come to know so well? Apparently so. Unfortunately, in his
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own published documents Bill Cooper gives his full name as "Milton
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William Cooper", not "William C. Cooper". Either Cooper doesn't know
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his own name, or the Phoenix Project's "eye witness" doesn't know what
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he's talking about.
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And while we're on the subject of Bill Cooper, it is instructive to
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compare some of the text of the Phoenix Project's "Ultimate Secret"
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document with some of Bill Cooper's material on the same subject.
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Cooper writes in his "Operation Majority--Final Release":
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BC> [Project Grudge] was financed by CIA confidential
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BC> funds (nonappropriated)
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BC> and money from the illicit drug trade ...
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BC> The purpose of Project Grudge
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BC> was to collect all scientific, technological, medical and
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BC> intelligence information from UFO/IAC sightings and
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BC> contacts with alien life forms. This orderly file of
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BC> collected information has been used to advance the United
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BC> States Space Program.
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Now look at the corresponding paragraph of the Phoenix Project's
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"Ultimate Secret" report:
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PP> Project Aquarius was funded by CIA confidential
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PP> funds (non-appropriated) ...
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PP> The purpose of Project Aquarius
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PP> was to collect all scientific, technological, medical and
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PP> intelligence information from UFO/IAC sightings and
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PP> contacts with alien lifeforms. This orderly file of
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PP> collected information has been used to advance the United
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PP> States' Space Program and provided the data needed to
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PP> develop present stealth technology.
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You don't have to be an intelligence agent to see that these two
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passages are virtually identical in both content and phrasing. Since
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Cooper's statement is dated 10 January 1989, more than half a year
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before the "Ultimate Secret" report's "origination" date of 4 August
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1989, we seem to be left with three possibilities: (1) Cooper was
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somehow privy to the Phoenix Project's investigative results even
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before they were first put to paper; or, (2) the Phoenix Project
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plagiarized Cooper's writings; or (3) the Phoenix Project's own
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investigations drew on the same tainted and discredited sources as
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Cooper apparently did in compiling his own materials. Whichever one
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you pick, it's not a pretty picture.
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But it gets worse:
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PP> The basic information revealing the existence of
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PP> Operation Majestic-12, the crashed UFOs, alien beings,
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PP> and their secret bases within the United States, was
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PP> obtained through the Freedom of Information Act from the
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PP> files of the CIA, NSA, FBI, State Department, the U.S.
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PP> Air Force.
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This is utter nonsense, as any perusal of published FOIA documents on
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UFOs would quickly reveal. FOIA requests have forced the government to
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disgorge many hundreds of pages of UFO documents over the years, but
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they provide little if any support for the existence of Operation
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Majestic Twelve, crashed saucers, alien beings, or secret bases. If
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the Phoenix Project is relying on already published documents as their
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source for this claim (e.g., "The UFO Cover-UP" by Lawrence Fawcett and
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Barry Greenwood, or "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good), then clearly
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they have not examined them very carefully. On the other hand, if the
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project really does have such explosive FOIA documents in its
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possession, let's see them; their publication would do more to
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establish the project's credibility than anything else it could
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possibly do short of producing a live alien.
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PP> PROJECT GRUDGE: This project was originally
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PP> established in 1953, by order of President Eisenhower and
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PP> is under the control of the CIA, NSA, and MAJI. Project
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PP> Grudge went underground and another project, Project
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