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*[ The White House & the CIA ]*
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Marchetti: (continued)
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But basically the CIA is controlled by the White House, the
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inner circle of government, the inner circle of the
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establishment, in general.
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The CIA is doing what these people want done so these people
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are appreciative and protective of them, and they in turn make
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suggestions or even go off on their own sometimes and operate
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deep cover for the CIA. So it develops into a self-feeding circle.
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FD: Spreading disinformation is done through the newsmedia.
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Marchetti:
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Yes. Its done through the newsmedia. The fallacy is that the CIA
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says the real reason they do this is to con the Soviets.
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Now, I'll give you some examples. One was a fellow by the name
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of Colonel Oleg Penkovsky.
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FD: Penkovsky Papers?
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Marchetti:
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Yes. I wrote about that in `The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence.
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The Penkovsky Papers was a phony story. We wrote the book in
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the CIA. Now, who in the hell are we kidding? The Soviets?
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Do we think for one minute that the Soviets, who among other things
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captured Penkovsky, interrogated him, and executed him, do you think
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for one minute they believe he kept a diary like that? How could he
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have possibly have done it under the circumstances?
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The whole thing is ludicrous. So we're not fooling the Soviets.
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What we're doing is fooling the American people and pumping up
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the CIA. The British are notorious for this kind of thing.
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They're always putting out phony autobiographies and biographies
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on their spies and their activities which are just outright lies.
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They're done really to maintain the myth of English secret
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intelligence so that they will continue to get money to continue
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to operate. Thats the real reason.
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The ostensible reason is that we were trying to confuse the
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Soviets. Well that's bullshit because they're not confused.
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One of the ones I think is really great is `Khruschev Remembers.'
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If anybody in his right mind believes that Nikita Khruschev sat
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down, and dictated his memoirs, and somebody -- Strobe Talbot
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sneaked out of the Soviet Union with them they're crazy.
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That story is a lie. That book was a joint operation between the
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CIA and the KGB. Both of them were doing it for the exact same
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reasons. They both wanted to influence their own publics.
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We did it our way by pretending that Khruschev had done all of this
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stuff and we had lucked out and somehow gotten a book out of it.
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The Soviets did it because they could not in their system allow
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Khruschev to write his memoirs. Thats just against everything
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that the Communist system stands for. But they did need him to
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speak out on certain issues.
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Brezhnev particularly needed him to short-circuit some of the
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initiatives of the right wing, the Stalinist wing of the party.
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Of course the KGB was not going to allow the book to be published
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in the Soviet Union. The stuff got out so that it could be
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published by the Americans. That doesn't mean that the KGB
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didn't let copies slip into the Soviet Union and let it go all
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around. The Soviets achieved their purpose too.
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This is one of the most fantastic cases, I think, in intelligence
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history. Two rival governments cooperated with each other on a
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secret operation to dupe their respective publics.
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