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The Jesus WE KNOW contrasted to the "Jesus" of Mormonism
The one true Jesus of the BIBLE, of all eternity God the Son, who
died that we may have eternal life; who paid the price of all sins; who
has entered our lives and is walking with us in a personal relationship
day by day -- is not known in Mormonism. The Jesus of Mormonism is an
entirely different "Jesus". Let's examine what the leaders and prophets
- the foundation of the Latter Day Saints Church - have said:
"When the time came that His First-Born, the Saviour, should come
into the world and take a tabernacle, the Father Himself came and
favoured the Spirit with a tabernacle instead of letting any
other MAN do it .... The Saviour was begotten by the Father of
His spirit, by the same being who is the Father of our spirits,
and that is all the organic difference between Jesus Christ and
you and me"
(BRIGHAM YOUNG, Journal of Discourses, 4:218)
"The fleshly body of Jesus required a Mother as well as a Father.
Therefore, the Father and Mother of Jesus, according to the
flesh, must have been associated together in the capacity of
Husband and Wife; hence the Virgin Mary must have been, for the
time being, the lawful wife of God the Father."
(ORSON PRATT, The Seer, pg 158)
"Christ was begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that
mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers ----- And Christ was
born into the world as the Literal Son of this Holy Being; He was
born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any
mortal son is born of a mortal father. There is nothing
figurative about his paternity; He was begotten, conceived and
born in the normal and natural course of events, for He is the
Son of God, and that designation means what it says."
(BRUCE R. McCONKIE, Mormon Doctrine, pg 547,742)
Brigham Young, to be consistent with his "Adam-God" doctrine,
believed Adam was the literal father of Jesus Christ:
"When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had
begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the
Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human
family ... Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by
the same character that was in the Garden of Eden, and who is our
Father in Heaven."
(BRIGHAM YOUNG, Journal of Discourses, 1:50,51)
As is evident in these statements, there is no Virgin Birth in
Mormonism. On the other hand, the Bible clearly shows us:
Matthew 1:18 Mary with child of the Holy Spirit
1:20 That which is conceived in her is of the
Holy Spirit
1:23 Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a
son
Luke 1:35 The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the
power of the Most High will overshadow you
Further, the "Jesus" of Mormonism was married in polygamy and had
children. This had to be so to be consistent with the doctrines of
Joseph Smith, Junior. As Joseph reports as a "revelation" given him by
God on July 12,1843:
"I am the Lord thy God .... obey the instructions I am about to
give unto you .... if ye abide not that covenant, then ye are
damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to
enter my Glory .... verily I say unto you, if man marry a wife
by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting
covenant .... they shall be gods .... And again, as pertaining to
the law of the priesthood - if any man espouses a virgin, and
desire to espouse another, and the first give her consent, and if
he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no
other man, then he is justified .... and if he have ten virgins
given unto him by the law, he cannot commit adultery, for they
belong to him."
(JOSEPH SMITH, Doctrine & Covenants, 132:2,3,4,19,20,61,62)
"It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a
marriage in Cana of Galilee, and on a careful reading of that
transaction, it will be discovered that no less a person than
Jesus Christ was married on that occasion."
(ORSON HYDE, Journal of Discourses, 13:259)
"How was it with Mary and Martha, and other women that followed
Him? In old times, and it is common to this day, the women, even
Sarah, called their husbands 'LORD' .... Jesus was the bridegroom
at the marriage of Cana of Galilee .... We say it was Jesus
Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he
could see his seed, before He was crucified .... I shall say
here, that before the Saviour died, he looked upon His own
natural children, as we look upon ours."
(ORSON HYDE, Journal of Discourses, 2:81,82)
The Bible states that Jesus is God the Son -- eternally existent
with God the Father -- yet Mormon doctrine says Jesus was a spirit
offspring of the Father; that Lucifer was the second spirit offspring
(THEY WERE BROTHERS?!); followed by billions more - or each of us, for
instance. We are "brothers" and "sisters" of Jesus Christ. Jesus is not
the only begotten Son in Mormon Theology:
"It makes me think of that second person that came forth in the
heavens when the voice went forth: 'Who will redeem the earth,
who will go forth and make the sacrifice for the earth and all
things it contains?'. The Eldest son said: 'Here am I'; but he
did not say 'send me.' But the second one, which was 'Lucifer,
Son of the Morning,' said, 'Lord, here am I, send me, I will
redeem every son and daughter of Adam and Eve that lives on the
earth."
(BRIGHAM YOUNG, Journal of Discourses, 13:282)
"The appointment of Jesus to be Saviour of the world was
contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called
Lucifer, Son of the Morning .... this spirit brother of Jesus
desperately tried to become the Saviour of Mankind."
MILTON R. HUNTER (First Council of 70)
The Gospel Through the Ages, pg 15 [1958]
"Jesus Christ is also of our species .... I have heard sectarian
priests undertake to tell the character of the Son of God, and
they make him half of one species and half of another, and I
could not avoid thinking at once of a mule."
(BRIGHAM YOUNG, Journal of Discourses, 4:217)
"There is no impropriety .... in speaking of Jesus Christ as the
elder brother of the rest of human kind."
(JAMES TALMAGE, ARTICLES OF FAITH, pg 473)
In Mormonism, Jesus was a created being:
"Jesus is man's spiritual brother. We dwelt with Him in the
spirit world as members of that large society of our eldest
brother."
(MILTON R. HUNTER, Gospel Through the Ages, pg 21)
"The devil is a spirit son of God who was born in the morning of
pre-existence."
(BRUCE R. McCONKIE, Mormon Doctrine, "Devil", 1966 edition, pg
192) "There are three Gods - the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
(BRUCE R. McCONKIE, Mormon Doctrine,"God", pg 317)
The REAL JESUS, the ONLY Son of God and God the Son, is proclaimed
throughout the BIBLE! Look up these references and tie-ins of Old and
New testaments declaring Jesus' Divinity and NOT being created:
LOOK UP and COMPARE WITH
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Psalm 24:10 I Corinthians 2:8
Psalm 45:6,7 Hebrews 1:8
Isaiah 8:13 I Peter 2:8
Isaiah 40:3 Matthew 3:3
Malachi 3:1 Matthew 11:10
Psalm 102:27 Hebrews 13:8
James 1:17
Psalm 102:25 Colossians 1:16
Psalm 102:26 Matthew 24:35
2 Peter 3:7,10
JOHN 1:1-3,14
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All
things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made
that was made .... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among
us, (and we beheld His glory, the Glory as of the ONLY begotten
of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
COLOSSIANS 1:15
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every
creature" [Here 'firstborn' does not mean first 'spirit-child',
rather a position of high honor - see verse 18, Hebrews 12:23,
Revelation 1:5, and Psalm 89:27]. The next verses, 16 and 17,
tell us, "For in Him were all things created, that are in heaven,
and that are on the earth .... All things were created by Him,
and for Him: And He is before all things, and by Him all things
consist."
HEBREWS 1:10
"Thou, Lord (Jesus), in the beginning hast laid the foundation of
the earth, and the heavens are the work of thine hands."
In Isaiah 44:24 God tells us that He "stretched forth the heavens
alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself." Jesus, who IS the
TRUTH and God the Father "have no lies within them" and are INCAPABLE OF
TELLING A LIE. Jesus is God the Son, eternally One with the Father and
the Holy Spirit, and not to be confused. God the Son is not God the
Father and God the father is not God the Holy Spirit, but each entity is
a part of the ONE TRUE AND LIVING GOD.
ISAIAH 9:6
"For unto us a child is born .... his name shall be called
Wonderful Counselor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
Prince of Peace."
MICAH 5:2
"Whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting."
MATTHEW 28:18
"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, 'All power is given
unto me in heaven and in earth.'"
PHILIPPIANS 2:6-10
"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be
equal with God: .... was made in the likeness of men .... became
obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God
also hath highly exalted him .... That at the name of Jesus every
knee should bow ...." Compare to Isaiah 45:22,23 for if Jesus is
not God, then we worship two (or more) Gods! The Mormons,
basically, do not worship Jesus, or pray to Him, only "through"
Him.)
COLOSSIANS 2:9
"For in Him dwelleth the fullness of the Godhead bodily"
HEBREWS 1:3
"... The express image of His person ...."
JOHN 5:23
"That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the
Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father
which hath sent Him."
JOHN 20:28
"And Thomas answered and said unto Him, 'My Lord and my God.'"
Jesus used the same descriptions of himself; I AM, ALPHA and OMEGA,
FIRST and LAST; as used by God the Father:
JESUS SAYING GOD
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JOHN 8:58 I AM EXODUS 3:14,15
REV 22:13,16 ALPHA AND OMEGA REV 1:8 & 21:6
REV 1:17 REVELATION 21:6
2:8 FIRST AND LAST ISAIAH 44:6
22:13 48:12
Jesus is GOD the SON! Eternally God and not after, or created by, or
a spirit child of God! Our Jesus is NOT the "Jesus" of Mormonism, and we
are empowered, if we have accepted the true Jesus into our hearts, to
give Thanks unto God for selecting us to reveal His True Son to us.
HALLELUJAH and AMEN !!!
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