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RE: How can they?
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Copyright law only limits who can Publish or manufacture items. It DOES
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NOT and never has limited who can sell authorized items. Paramount would be
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putting themselves into very messy legal grounds.
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Dan Sena
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2 @7708
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12/150: Spock in Command
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Name: O.D.W.E. #14 @6500
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Date: 06/10/91 at 12:05 am <MDT>
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From: The Pentagon [605-348-4216]
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[ Reply to ] Spock and command of Enterprise...
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[Msg Status] No reply needed.
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__________________________________________________________________
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He was also in command during the episode "The Doomsday Device". When Kirk
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was aboard the Constellation, Matt Decker assumed command to go chasing after
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the planet killer after he destroyed his own ship. McCoy wanted Spock to take
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over, but Spock quoted regulations, saying that if McCoy could certify him
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medically unfit then he would take command. Unfortunately, McCoy hadn't had
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time to run a physical on Decker.
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Later, when communications had been restored to the Constellation, Kirk
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found out Decker was in command and ordered Spock to take over. This was also
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against regulations, but Kirk gambled his career that Decker wouldn't report
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to Starfleet(besides, Decker was clearly looney/in shock over the loss of his
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ship).
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The funny thing about this episode is why McCoy didn't use his authority as
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Chief Medical Officer to order Decker in for a physical. In many other
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episodes it is made clear that if the doctor judges(on his sayso) that someone
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is acting erratically, he must undergo a physical.
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13/150: Just commenting
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Name: Crackhead #177 @6500
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Date: 06/10/91 at 1:43 am <MDT>
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From: The Pentagon [605-348-4216]
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[Msg Status] No reply needed.
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__________________________________________________________________
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Why bring Denise Crosby back? Have you seen that delicious form she walks
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around in? Many Trekkies watch for it, me included.
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I thought "In Theory" was one of the most entretaining Treks of the season.
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Data's antics even had my Dad(non-Trekkie) laughing. Picards best line was,
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"Now would be a good time O'Brian." in his usual deadpan.
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As for Data's "fledgling emotions" remember him telling Tasha's sister that
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familliarity with a person made communicating easier? I nearly shed a tear
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when he said he would delete the appropriate program. Emotion indeed.
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I suppose that the obscure Enterprise was not Captained by a flamboyant
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personality. One not trusted with all of the Federations toughest problems or
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likely to get into trouble.
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I also think that the Picard Maneuver(ie tug) shows that uniform designers
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will never catch up with designers of casual wear in the comfort area. Is
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that too strange?
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14/150: Help..
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Name: The Black Knight #311 @3110
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Date: Sun Jun 09 14:05:55 1991
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From: Inner Limits [301-356-5112]
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I have a question that I'm sure you guys could clear up for me-
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How is it possible for the Enterprise (traveling warp 9 in forward direction)
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to view a ship coming warp 8 from behind them? How would it be possible for
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light to travel in such a manner?
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Well.. there it is.. thanks!
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TBK
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WWIVNet Origin: The Inner Limits BBS <Owingsmills, Maryland>
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15/150: CreationCons
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Name: Michael Liebmann #11 @2396
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Date: Sun Jun 09 02:00:57 1991
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From: DAG BBS [213-546-1861]
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Perhaps the best way to get the point across is to get people to stop going to
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these Cons. Perhaps, in that way, Malin will get the message. Perhaps it'd
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be a good idea to let creation know how you feel. # is 516-SHOWMAN
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16/150: Re: Promoting Picard
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Name: Nick Smith #236 @2396
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Date: Sun Jun 09 19:00:32 1991
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From: DAG BBS [213-546-1861]
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My thinking is that promoting Picard to Admiral and Riker to Captain would be
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great if we only want Patrick Stewart in SOME of the episodes. The problem
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with him continuing on as a flag officer on board the Enterprise is that the
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Enterprise is not a "fleet" vessel. It operates on its own too much of the
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time for it to be a true flagship of a group of ships.
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By the way, I just read Vendetta, too. I thought it was well written, and it
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kept my attention better than most other SF, not just other Star Trek novels.
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Peter David did a very solid job of writing, and of trying to tie up loose
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ends. The story was basically believable, although there were some tiny
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problems caused by the TOS vs. TNG warp speeds. He leaned heavily on the
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technical manuals, however, and really tried to do his best. Good job.
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The new issue of the Star Trek: Next Generation comic had a note in it that
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there was still some sort of Tasha Yar flashback or something planned, and
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that they had gotten that information from Denise Crosby. Unless this was
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deliberate misinformation, we may still see some surprises.
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17/150: Enterprise History Line
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Name: Chakra Datastorm #18 @4401
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Date: Sun Jun 09 00:37:20 1991
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From:^Iconian Gateway [404-426-1941]
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RE: Enterprise C
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BY: Mainframe #125 @6550
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I saw a time line chart somewhere that showed the evolution of the
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Enterprise from Aircraft Carrier to NCC-1701D, and on this time line it
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mentions that Kirk is killed in an accident on NCC-1701A, leaving Sulu in
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command. NCC-1701B had a VERY short-lived history, as it was supposedly
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destroyed in a warp accident trying to reach the Galatic Center. NCC-1701C was
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reported destroyed in battle with the Romulans (big suprise here, eh?), and
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finally NCC-1701D is now flitting around the universe looking for trouble, and
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finding it.
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<20>h<EFBFBD>k<EFBFBD><6B> D<>$<24><><EFBFBD>m
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---
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<EFBFBD> 4401 <20> Iconian GateWay <20> Marietta <20> Georgia <20> 404-426-1941 <20> Star Trek
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18/150: O'Brien, transport me to 10 forward....
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Name: Semper Gumby #149 @2907
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Date: Fri Jun 07 14:14:13 1991
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From: Mc Co. Online [209-538-8454]
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RE: Better yet ...
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I can see several reasons why the transporter is not used radomly. First their
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are regulations on a starship that could prevent that. As to reasons for
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regulations... gee their could be any number of ridiculas(sp) reasons.
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example.... Some high ranking officer thinks starship crews don't get enough
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exercise being cooped up for months even years at a time... so they get to run
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around the ship.
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Another reason, and perhaps more practical, is that the transporter requires
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energy. I would imagine that a sight to sight transport would take more
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energie that a normal transport from the transporter room. Why, I am not
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sure... it just sounds good.
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a message from SEMPER Gumby
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<20><><EFBFBD><EFBFBD> Mc Co. Online <20> WWIV-Net Node:2907 <20> Ceres, CA. <20> 209-538-8454 ۲<><DBB2>
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19/150: Dave Kennedy...
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Name: Tauran Knight #1 @2457
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Date: Sat Jun 08 23:58:52 1991
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From: Knight Court [214-289-8524]
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RE: Spock\Kirk\Picard\Riker
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I would say Spock was split three ways:
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Data, of course... Logical
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Troi .... Alien, Mind Powers
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Worf .... Resident Alien ( A Klingon on board a Federation Ship! Great! )
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Tauran Knight
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20/150: Borg...
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Name: Warrior Red Baron #50 @7653
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Date: Sun Jun 09 11:46:10 1991
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From: The Dungeon [716-656-8573]
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I think that the Borg are a mechanical/electrical inteligence that use a
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persons body as a host. They implant there mechanical parts to take over the
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bodys control over its self. The borg is the artificial inteligence that takes
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over the body and uses it for its own purposes.
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<<<<<<<<<<RED BARON>>>>>>>>>>
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21/150: I have a personal opinion on why two transporters
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Name: Booger #30 @3468
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Date: Mon Jun 10 19:32:49 1991
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From: The Pyramid BBS [314-861-1232]
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RE: Number of items
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are used between ships...
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It's a rough one, but my guess is that the writers' constanly screw up on
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this!
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See, a normal matter-to-matter transporter can beam an object ANYWHERE it
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wants, even into solid matter...
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So I don't believe that the original transporter in a ship-to-ship transfer
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has to do anything at all...
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Because if a transporter can beam into any space, can't it RECOVER from that
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space as well?
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Why above Earth would the first unit even have to function? Couldn't the
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second unit just lock onto the object and transport it?
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But, then again, there are supposed to be some kind of security devices on
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Starships that prevent unauthorized beaming...maybe by sheer stupidity they
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can't be overridden...
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Booger!
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22/150: borg...
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Name: Footpad Ice Cube #196 @7653
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Date: Mon Jun 10 21:33:11 1991
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From: The Dungeon [716-656-8573]
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I think that the borg would get its but kicked in real life. you cant keep
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re-biulding your ship if your geting blown up at the same time.
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23/150: What ever happened to the........
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Name: Josh Wood #300 @6853
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Date: Tue Jun 11 01:54:32 1991
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From:^USS Hexum [618-624-6578]
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Blonde with the short hair and big.......ummmmmmm....Feet?! on Star Treck the
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next generation? I can't figure why they took the most outrageous girl ever to
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appear on Star Treck off,would stupidity happen to play a role in that one?
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This is the Ctrl-F MacroLow Rider
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/el
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24/150: Stewart directing...
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Name: Handelenoi #14 @9955
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Date: Mon Jun 10 16:30:57 1991
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From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
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Reply to : A NER POST!
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Original by : Jeff Stevens #34 @6460
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the camera angles were real different. There weren't as many "head on" shots..
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there were a lot of side shots and "over the shoulder" shots. Data's voice
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sounded different. Listen to it when he, Picard, and Riker were gathered
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around the computer. He sounds like he's spitting out his words. There was a
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lot more "mugging" by the cast (Riker does it all the time so he's not a good
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example. But Stewart himself is. WORF: "Sir." PICARD: (Soapy pancake smile)
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"Perhaps not".
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I like Stewart's directing better. The camera doesn't bounce around as
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much and the angles are interesting. They don't work all the time, but they're interesting.
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25/150: The Borg must procreate...
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Name: Shawn Stamps #2 @4401
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Date: Mon Jun 10 00:27:57 1991
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From:^Iconian Gateway [404-426-1941]
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RE: Quick! Someone take away Egon's [W] key!
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BY: Egon Spengler #1 @2112
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in some way. In the show where they first encounter the Borg, the away team
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discovers their 'nursery' where the 'baby Borgs' are first connected into the
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unimind.
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Whether they actually have sex or not is another matter entirely. They
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probably use in vitro fertilization and have machine "wombs" (can't imagine a
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pregnant Borg for some reason).
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SS
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Net/Forty-Four Hundred and One
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---
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<EFBFBD> 4401 <20> Iconian GateWay <20> Marietta <20> Georgia <20> 404-426-1941 <20> Star Trek
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26/150: The latest talk with ROMULANS
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Name: Albert #458 @6979
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Date: Mon Jun 10 08:08:51 1991
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From: The Streets of Bakersfield [619-294-5888]
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How many of you saw the latest Star Trek in which the Romulans agreed to help
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the Federation find out what was destroying both Federation and Romulan
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outposts near the neutral zone? The Romulans haven't agreed on anything with
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the Federation in a long long long long time. What are your thoughts on this matter?
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27/150: Klingon Attack Cruiser model?
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Name: Steve Manitsas #121 @6951
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Date: Mon Jun 10 16:08:18 1991
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From: Enigma - TNG [619-453-1819]
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RE: Models
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Just got back from the Star Trek 25th Anniversary convention at the Shrine
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Auditoruim (Academy awards, remember?). I'll talk about this soon, but in
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response to the post about ERTL models, ERTL will be coming out with the
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Klingon Attack Cruiser from "Reunion" and "The Mind's Eye", as well as a
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re-release of the "orignal Klingon Battle cruiser" from TOS and the K'tanga
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class battle cruiser from Star Trek TMP, II, and *VI*!. The TOS Enterprise
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bridge and the Galileo II shuttlecraft (seen in "The Way to Eden") will be
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released along with a special chrome edition of the three-Enterprise set and a
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lighted version of the Enterprise A with sound effects for phasers and photon
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torpedoes.
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There is no plan to produce the Excelsior / Enterprise B or the Ambassador
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class Enterprise C, even though ERTL has licence to make a model from anything
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associated with Star Trek. Write to ERTL and let them know you would buy one:
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-- Steve Manitsas
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28/150: 25th Anniversary Convention
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Name: Steve Manitsas #121 @6951
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Date: Mon Jun 10 16:42:50 1991
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From: Enigma - TNG [619-453-1819]
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Just got back from seeing the entire Star Trek cast at the Shrine
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Auditorium in LA. Star Trek VI is finishing principal photography and should
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be released in December 91. Trek VI, The Undiscovered Country looks VERY
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good. Christopher Plummer does indeed play a Klingon. Sulu is the Captain of
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the U.S.S. Excelsior, with Janice Rand (Grace Lee Whittney) as one of his
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crew. There should be some footage on Arsenio Hall in August according to
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BIll Shatner and Ralph Winter. Director Nick Meyer appeared in a short video
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for the celebration on location at the set for Trek VI. There were shots of
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LOTS of klingons, as well as Dr. McCoy being tossed into a snow bank and Sulu
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beaming down with two of his crew, all brandishing phasers. NO plot details
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were revealed.
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Shatner and Kelley each gave their account of a matter the disappearing
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english muffins on the set of Trek VI. I'll post each person's account soon.
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Nichelle sang a song she wrote for Gene (three times!! Aaargh!) Walter
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complained of being mistaken for Tattoo on Fantasy Island. Jimmy rambled
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about a seroius problem with his vocal cords (cancer?), but never told us the
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diagnosis. He had called Ralph Winter in December to ask if he could record
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his lines, afraid that he would no longer have the ability to speak by the
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time the movie began shooting. George talked about Seatrek and the French
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people who tried to imitate his laugh (Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah...). Nimoy talked about
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the development of Spock and his love for the character. Majel opened the
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show with a retrospective of Star Trek. Ralph Winter spoke of Trek VI and
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showed a trailer for the theaters (Awesome!! - but no scenes or plot details).
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Gene Roddenbery showed up last in his wheelchair with his son, G.R. Junior,
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and recieved a letter from George Lucas (delivered by Darth Vader) as well as
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a collosal telegram from the fans thanking him for Star Trek. Grace Lee
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Whittney was also there to talk about being back with Trek. This will be the
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last Old Trek, but no one is betting money on that. -- Steve Manitsas
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29/150: English Muffins
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Name: Steve Manitsas #121 @6951
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Date: Mon Jun 10 16:56:56 1991
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From: Enigma - TNG [619-453-1819]
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Deforrest Kelley:
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Christopher Plummer was eating these English muffins that smelled
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wonderful, so I asked him where he got them. He showed me the bag on the
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table in the back. I popped one in the toaster. The makeup director asked to
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check my makeup, and when I went back to the table, the muffins were gone. I
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put the last muffin left in the toaster and the same thing happened! Then I
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looked around, cuz I KNEW shatner must be behind it. He was sitting at the
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end of the table with his mouth full, choking with his hand at his throat
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saying "Call 9-1-1!"
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William Shatner: (in the manner we know and love so well...)
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Kelley and I were doing this scene where we would crawl out of this..
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really.. tiny.. hole, and-then-fall-in-the-snow. It wasn't right. The
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director said to do it again and I rolled back int he hole, and Kelley...
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stooped.. down..... slowly... with his hand on his back. We came out
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again, and this time, when we had to redo the scene, Kelly ROLLED into the
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hole, ... and got stuck. As he was stuck in the hole, he told me he was
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afraid of forgeting things, he was getting old. THEN! -- I KNEW HIS WEAKNESS!
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Kelley walked to the food table and cut his muffin in half and put it in
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the toaster... and WATCHED it. I grabbed the makeup man and pointed at Kelly,
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"DISTRACT HIM." The makeup man called him over to check the make up,
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pretending something was wrong. I ... GRABBED.. the english muffin from the
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toaster. Kelley returned to the table and stood in front of the toaster..
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waiting... and waiting... and waitng...
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TO BE CONTINUED
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30/150: picard "cured" of his borgness ...
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Name: Pythagoras #157 @9955
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Date: Tue Jun 11 00:20:04 1991
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From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
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Reply to : Mabey...
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Original by : Dr. Manhattan #39 @3302
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I've hear some interesting rumors about that one. There may be another
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"borg" episode featuring a struggle with the "Locutus mind."
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31/150: Intraship transport
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Name: Pythagoras #157 @9955
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Date: Tue Jun 11 00:23:04 1991
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From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
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Reply to : Transporting within the Enterprise
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Original by : Chris Weber #4 @2396
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In the TOS episode "Day of the Dove," it was stated that intraship transport
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was very dangerous because the slightest error would be fatal. Now, we can
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assume perhaps that the transporter system has improved since TOS. But even
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in TNG, it is safer and more accurate to use a transporter pad whenever
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possible, and reserve "direct beaming" for emergencies.
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P
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Pythagoras
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/
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32/150: Woman trapped in the floor in "In Theory"
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Name: Pythagoras #157 @9955
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Date: Tue Jun 11 00:26:47 1991
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From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
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Reply to : IN THEORY...
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Original by : Mickey #22 @2392
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Well, the idea of a person getting stuck inside a wall or floor because of
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some sort of "dematerialization" is an old one, common in a number of
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science-fiction stories. It's almost cliche.
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As for the special effects involved, it was clearly a dummy. I guess they
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were trying to save a couple of bucks with the special effects.
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Not to mention that I think it was unrealistic. First, she wouldn't have
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died that quickly. Second, if she were dead or unconscious, her head
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would have drooped.
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Pythagoras
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33/150: You are incorrect.
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Name: Pythagoras #157 @9955
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Date: Tue Jun 11 00:35:58 1991
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From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
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Reply to : Nope, she was not,,,
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Original by : Jeff Stevens #34 @6460
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{re: "Yesterday's Enterprise"}
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Capt. Garrett of the Enterprise-C was killed in the attack from the klingon
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BOP (bird of prey). She was not killed in the attack of the three
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kvork-class klingon ships. She was already dead when the kvorks approached.
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Pythagoras
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34/150: Meaning of "Best of Both Worlds"
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Name: Pythagoras #157 @9955
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Date: Tue Jun 11 00:39:51 1991
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From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
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Reply to : I think you missed the point....
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Original by : Widard Of Odd #110 @3355
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Well, Riker wanted to be a captain, and he wanted to stay on the Enterprise.
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In BOBW he got both. You might say he got the "Best of Both Worlds."
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Pythagoras
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35/150: well
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Name: Chronos #114 @2383
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Date: Mon Jun 10 22:08:12 1991
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From: Guilded Globes [213-594-0505]
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RE: In ST3
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|
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I heard that the "B" version was lost in space......not junked.....
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The Host With The Most -=-=-=-=-=-=-=->> Chronos
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36/150: one thing
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Name: Chronos #114 @2383
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Date: Mon Jun 10 22:20:04 1991
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From: Guilded Globes [213-594-0505]
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|
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RE: ..
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I have found is that data is really good at giving computational analysis but
|
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falls apart completely in human relations. This machine has been around humans
|
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for unpteen years, yet he cannot master simple mimiking of humans. He need not
|
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create programs of accurate reproduction, and finding an appropriate time to
|
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use them, he need only copy until the trial and error phases indicate when a
|
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situation merits a certain response. After all isnt that what we humans do
|
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anyway. We copy each other. If the response is wrong we store it away for
|
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futute refernce, and try it out on different situations until we find one that
|
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it fits well. He always seems to look and act ackward. I beleive any machine
|
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would have been able to formulate a good human mimiking program after rising
|
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through the ranks of Star Fleet. Even our own simply PCs can learn by the
|
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imput you give them in a simple routime of a game or such. I think for such a
|
||
great machine, they purposely reduce his potential.
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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The Host With The Most -=-=-=-=-=-=-=->> Chronos
|
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|
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|
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37/150: Piker
|
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Name: Chronos #114 @2383
|
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Date: Mon Jun 10 22:23:34 1991
|
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From: Guilded Globes [213-594-0505]
|
||
|
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RE: I like Riker.
|
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|
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That was suppose to be Riker....Anyway I think that Riker as Capt James T.
|
||
Kirk has to work for his victories and has alot of emotions and makes
|
||
mistakes. Kirk was always screwing up but came out OK in the end. Picard is
|
||
always in control, and always parading up and down that bridge. Even when he
|
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stands up from his chair he is strutting. I dont like this. Jim never
|
||
strutted. He OVER ACTED yes, but never strutted. I liked his over acting....
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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The Host With The Most -=-=-=-=-=-=-=->> Chronos
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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38/150: also, there was a statement about intraship transport
|
||
Name: Lockjaw The Ogre #31 @9955
|
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Date: Tue Jun 11 11:08:39 1991
|
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From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
|
||
|
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Reply to : Intraship transport
|
||
Original by : Pythagoras #157 @9955
|
||
|
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|
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it seems that the power drain is so great for intraship transporting that it
|
||
can only be used in emergencies. the turbolifts are plenty fast enough enyway.
|
||
|
||
In the Black Forest lives an Ogre named Lockjaw!
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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39/150: No she WASN'T
|
||
Name: Caesar #309 @4401
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 01:55:56 1991
|
||
From:^Iconian Gateway [404-426-1941]
|
||
|
||
RE: Nope, she was not,,,
|
||
BY: Jeff Stevens #34 @6460 On: Sat Jun 08 13:33:10 1991
|
||
|
||
Captain Garrett was killed when the Enterprise C was in its future, the
|
||
present of STTNG. A Klingon scout appeared and attacked (if you want to know
|
||
why, watch the episode Yesterday's Enterprise). Lt. Castillo took over for
|
||
some several hours during which he helped repair his ship, and the scout
|
||
returned to base and sent 3 battlecruisers. I know, I watched the episode
|
||
VERY recently.
|
||
|
||
Just correcting,
|
||
Caesar
|
||
|
||
|
||
---
|
||
<EFBFBD> 4401 <20> Iconian GateWay <20> Marietta <20> Georgia <20> 404-426-1941 <20> Star Trek
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
40/150: ;;;
|
||
Name: Aahz #109 @9409
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 10 07:58:24 1991
|
||
From: Da Rucci BBS [904-743-7052]
|
||
|
||
RE: RE: Replicators and Transporters
|
||
|
||
Home Chicken: I don't aree that they are unable to create people and such from
|
||
the replicators.. I believe that they won't create humans because of ethics.
|
||
While the computers in ST have the power to store the genetic codes this newly
|
||
created being would have to be taught everything...
|
||
They are able to create meats and alcohol (although it is called synthehol...
|
||
and doesn't appear to have the alcohol content meaning it lacks the yeast used
|
||
to give it the potency).
|
||
However it can replicate the proteins found in meat with accuracy.. perhaps it
|
||
can replicate anythin but not neccisarily imbue it with life...
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
41/150: well./
|
||
Name: Aahz #109 @9409
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 10 08:05:53 1991
|
||
From: Da Rucci BBS [904-743-7052]
|
||
|
||
RE: A NER POST!
|
||
|
||
Jeff Stevens: I compared the klingons to the russians as they currently are...
|
||
one could compare the romulans as cold War russia... where the ferrenghi go
|
||
I'm not quite sure.. maybe a sort of midle east nation somewhere..
|
||
|
||
As for Patrick Stewart's directing of Data's love episode: I thought it was
|
||
quite good. All'n'all... The part about him erasing her program was kind of
|
||
sad but wrong.. if data desires nothing more than to be human he must've
|
||
realized in his studies that love is one of the most important human emotions
|
||
and as such would desire nothing more than to keep that program and in fact
|
||
study more and more texts in hopes of one day really desinging a program that
|
||
mighty fully deal with the concept..
|
||
|
||
Aahz
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
42/150: ..
|
||
Name: Aahz #109 @9409
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 10 08:09:33 1991
|
||
From: Da Rucci BBS [904-743-7052]
|
||
|
||
RE: I like Riker.
|
||
|
||
Turan Knight: I didn't like the first officer woman.. sure she was someone to
|
||
drool over but she's too pushy. Riker's not good enough... Picard's awesome
|
||
because he's got enough fire in him.. the only complaint I have is when he
|
||
breaks off into his little tangents of Reciting shakespere.. it makes you
|
||
think he's going senile.. but I think Riker as captain would change the show
|
||
for the worse. The only good thing about that would be to see Data as #1..
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
43/150: FASA
|
||
Name: Admiral #91 @9409
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 10 11:33:06 1991
|
||
From: Da Rucci BBS [904-743-7052]
|
||
|
||
RE: No, you're right, we don't,,,
|
||
|
||
For all of you to know, FASA is not a reliable source on the Star Trek Saga!
|
||
FASA is a Role Playing Game company. I have proof that they stretch the
|
||
limits of the Enterprise. They change everything and anything. It maybe
|
||
based on Star Trek, but it isn't the rea thing and you shouldn't rely on it
|
||
for information. Second, Star Trek novels can't be a source either. Tehy are
|
||
written by writers, but the writers of Star Trek are not consulted. The fact
|
||
it, you can write a Star Trek novel too. The writers do sometimes change
|
||
things around. The novels are only BASED on Star Trek, they are not approved
|
||
by Paramount of Gene Roddenberry!
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
<EFBFBD>dmiral
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
44/150: More stuff
|
||
Name: Steven Smith #155 @18
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 09:03:18 1991
|
||
From: The Federation [818-407-0419]
|
||
|
||
RE: Help..
|
||
|
||
If a starship is traveling at warp speed, and stop a day later, could they
|
||
wait 2 days or whatever and look back and see themselves? Or if a starship
|
||
left earth at warp speed, could they look back and see themselves leaving?
|
||
|
||
Steven Smith
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
45/150: Explanation...
|
||
Name: The Traveler #52 @8261
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 15:06:18 1991
|
||
From: 4th Dimension [812-331-8421]
|
||
|
||
RE: Nope, she was not,,,
|
||
BY: Jeff Stevens #34 @6460
|
||
|
||
> Romulans killed Yar and Castille.
|
||
>
|
||
> The Rock
|
||
> >> The Rare Breed of BBS'rs <<
|
||
|
||
No, Yar didn't exist once the Enterprise-C went back, they had just the 125
|
||
officers they (124 since Garret died) normally had, but since Tasha didn't go
|
||
back, she never would have known Castillo, and if he didn't know her...
|
||
See, like Doc Brown said if there is a Paradox in time the universe could be
|
||
destroyed... well it sure would make things a little clearer.
|
||
>>>>>>***The***<<<<<<
|
||
>>>>>*Traveler*<<<<<<
|
||
|
||
WWIVnet Origin:<3A><><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>>>> 4th Dimension BBS (812)-331-8421 SysOps AV SNARF!
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
46/150: I disagree.
|
||
Name: Widard Of Odd #110 @3355
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 18:52:08 1991
|
||
From: The Cat's Meow [313-235-6094]
|
||
|
||
RE: Quick! Someone take away Egon's [W] key!
|
||
|
||
I think that the Borg DO procreate to some degree. In the first part of
|
||
B.O.B.W., I seem to remember when they beamed aboard the Borg ship, that they
|
||
found a nursery....
|
||
|
||
Just think about it.
|
||
|
||
<EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>۲<EFBFBD><EFBFBD>Widard of Odd<64><64><EFBFBD>۲<EFBFBD><DBB2>
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
47/150: Ok reasons, Semper Gumby, BUT
|
||
Name: Frenchy Python #82 @2392
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 10:32:23 1991
|
||
From: The Outpost [213-719-1887]
|
||
|
||
wouldn't transport inside the ship be authorized in case of extreme emergency?
|
||
Remember the TNG episode where Worf's mate was attacked in her cabin -- he
|
||
found her still alive and called for help -- which arrived about 3 minutes
|
||
later instead of 10 seconds. That needs to be accounted for.
|
||
Frenchy Python
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
48/150: Help
|
||
Name: Mark Harklerode #349 @5312
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 22:17:10 1991
|
||
From: The Capital Connection [503-371-6566]
|
||
|
||
HELP!
|
||
|
||
I though I was a Trekie, but after finding this board and reading it I'm not
|
||
so sure. I am confused by some of the abreviations used on the board, such as
|
||
TAS, TOS, and what is meant by "canon"? Also where does one find out about ST
|
||
conventions, who, what, when, and where ect...? I live in Salem,OR if that
|
||
will help. Thanks for your time.
|
||
|
||
Mark Harklerode
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
49/150: The Enterprize in general
|
||
Name: Green Barron #220 @6870
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 15:52:00 1991
|
||
From: The Downeaster Alexa [618-254-6303]
|
||
|
||
The biggest problem I have of ST concept of future space is the interior of
|
||
the ships.... Anybody remember Alien(s)??? Remember how those interior ships
|
||
looked realistic, and possible???
|
||
|
||
I think that walking around in clean uniforms, never(hardly) REALLY fixing
|
||
anything (just punch the right buttons on the computer and all's well).
|
||
|
||
That's another thing. The computers look to fine. Not like something I'd
|
||
expect to be scouting around in space.....
|
||
|
||
Has anyone else felt like this about ST's concept of future ships???
|
||
|
||
-Tim
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
50/150: transporters
|
||
Name: Adept Osiris #27 @7653
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 00:24:42 1991
|
||
From: The Dungeon [716-656-8573]
|
||
|
||
RE: Two Transporters...
|
||
BY: Quantril #241 @8302
|
||
|
||
I always wondered why noone ever transported a photon torpedo or other weapons
|
||
on to an enemy ship? This would seem to be an effective way of destroying an
|
||
enemy.
|
||
-sky
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
51/150: Just for you...
|
||
Name: Booger #30 @3468
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 19:54:32 1991
|
||
From: The Pyramid BBS [314-861-1232]
|
||
|
||
RE: Well, Mycroft...
|
||
|
||
Guess what? Data's cat's name is incongrous in the extreme with what's in the
|
||
ST:TNG novels...
|
||
|
||
The cat's name is "Mystery", not Spock or Spot or whatever Mr. Spiner
|
||
constantly mumbled throughout the episode...
|
||
|
||
Named "Mystery" because the cat pops up all over the ship, with seemingly no
|
||
regard for doors, force-fields, or walls...you'll remember that was briefly
|
||
discussed 'twixt LaGeordi (!) and Data!!
|
||
|
||
|
||
Booger!
|
||
/ws
|
||
oops...
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
52/150: Of course,
|
||
Name: Shadowspawn #121 @5311
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 19:05:26 1991
|
||
From:^Milliway's [503-644-3537]
|
||
|
||
Commander Riker enjoyed (for the first few moments, anyway) Future Imperfect.
|
||
This might be one good way of representing him in another episode. BTW-just
|
||
what is Counselor Troi's offical rank? She is seated at the bridge, and
|
||
according to Star Fleet regulations no one under the rank of Ensign may sit
|
||
there, yet she wears no formal uniform.
|
||
|
||
To reply to an earlier message, the Vulcans show very little emotion towards
|
||
one another, yet the one thing that they do show emotion at is the
|
||
'Pan-Thur'. I believe I spelled that right. The Pan-Thur is where two Vulcans
|
||
get 'in heat', and for one brief moment, express feelings through a mind-link,
|
||
sharing the other's thooughts and movements.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
53/150: transporter problem
|
||
Name: Sly #349 @7354
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 21:56:22 1991
|
||
From: PC Nowhere [713-242-9766]
|
||
|
||
One other problem that may occur with just constantly beaming folks from spot
|
||
A to the bridge (or wherever) instead of the transporter room, is... what
|
||
about the number of people already present at that place. Wouldn't it be sad
|
||
if, just as Picard was beaming straight to the bridge, riker stepped right
|
||
into that same spot? Ooops. I think they prefer specific tranporter areas
|
||
and (on many planets) landing areas. Far fewer passerbyers getting screwed up
|
||
in things...
|
||
|
||
*(Rodeo el tiempo)*
|
||
*(s<>y)*
|
||
349 @7354
|
||
|
||
[[PC Nowhere BBS @7354 - Your Not Dealing With AT&T!]]
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
54/150: Yes..
|
||
Name: Michael The Prophet #1 @3468
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 20:37:45 1991
|
||
From: The Pyramid BBS [314-861-1232]
|
||
|
||
But that was probably supposed to be with the ship 'phasing in and out'.
|
||
I had first thought it was supposed to be that girl 'breaking into his house
|
||
for a evening of computing'..heh.
|
||
|
||
<20><><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>۳<EFBFBD><DBB3><EFBFBD><EFBFBD> Michael the Prophet <20><><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>۳<EFBFBD><DBB3><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>
|
||
|
||
ps. sex with an android..their babys would be calculators or maybe worse.. a
|
||
timex sinclair??
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
55/150: The Deadly Years
|
||
Name: O.D.W.E. #14 @6500
|
||
Date: 06/12/91 at 1:32 pm <MDT>
|
||
From: The Pentagon [605-348-4216]
|
||
|
||
[ Reply to ] Deadly Years...
|
||
[Msg Status] No reply needed.
|
||
__________________________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
|
||
That was the one where the Commodore went chasing after the Romulan ship
|
||
wasn't it? He blundered the attack very badly and Kirk received the youth
|
||
serum just in time to save the day??
|
||
The only reason I mentioned this was because we didn't get to see the
|
||
Romulans in TOS very much, did we? I mean, there was this episode, Balance of
|
||
Terror, and the one where they stole the cloaking device(the title escapes
|
||
me). Very few episodes(out of 79), considering that the Romulans are a very
|
||
developed(scriptwise) race...
|
||
|
||
|
||
Origin: -[The Pentagon]- WWIVnet @6500 USR Dual Standard
|
||
(605) 348-4216 Rapid City, SD. SNARFable
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
56/150: You
|
||
Name: Mr. Potato Head #79 @2392
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 15:16:22 1991
|
||
From: The Outpost [213-719-1887]
|
||
|
||
don't even need ONE transporter! Didn't you see the episode where Data went
|
||
to visit Dr. Soom (however you spell it) The transporters can perform
|
||
site-to-site transporting so that you don't even need one. Same for last
|
||
season's finale. They transported from the shuttle to the Borg ship, didn't they?
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
57/150: In the Paradise Syndrome...
|
||
Name: Mr. Dickens #15 @5415
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 23:10:52 1991
|
||
From: The Guild [504-282-8270]
|
||
|
||
RE: Or...
|
||
|
||
Wasn't there a series of lines that went something akin to the following:
|
||
|
||
McCoy: You only did this so you could be in command of the Enterprise.
|
||
|
||
Spock: Doctor, I AM in command of the Enterprise.
|
||
|
||
Kirk had been victimized by amnesia after touching some alien device on
|
||
a planet peopled by an indian culture, and, in fact, Spock had assumed command
|
||
for a time period of some "months" as Kirk had had time to marry, and get his
|
||
new wife into an advanced state of pregnancy before the big E returned.
|
||
|
||
[BOZ]
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
58/150: Well, Rider...
|
||
Name: Nimbus #24 @5415
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 04:05:04 1991
|
||
From: The Guild [504-282-8270]
|
||
|
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Her character's OBNOXIOUS PERSONALITY might have had something to do with
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it... Perhaps the Yar/Data
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(the blonde character was Tasha Yar) confrontations were supposed to be
|
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reminiscent of the old McCoy/Spock ongoing state of "war"... if so, it fell
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(IMHO) flat on its face...
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N.
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59/150: I agree......
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Name: Josh Wood #300 @6853
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Date: Wed Jun 12 14:45:02 1991
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From:^USS Hexum [618-624-6578]
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That just ruins the whole idea of realistics in movies when they blow
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something up or kill someone and then you see them an episode or movie
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later.That realy sucks. I guess the deal with spock was accepitible though. I
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just don't uderstand when you see something go BOOM! how would it be able to
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survive?
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Low Rider
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/ed
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60/150: Yech....
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Name: Mark Johnson #149 @6853
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Date: Wed Jun 12 17:17:51 1991
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From:^USS Hexum [618-624-6578]
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RE: Quick! Someone take away Egon's [W] key!
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BY: Egon Spengler #1 @2112
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Nanoo Nanoo Indeed....Actually, I think your're right..maybe not an egg, but
|
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an elgongated cigar shape....much better. Like the Magellan from THE SONGS OF
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DISTANT EARTH. Even if they did have infinite power, they still needed a way
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to diminish stress/ablation.
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61/150: Ship classes
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Name: Hal Nine Thousand #133 @8405
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Date: Wed Jun 12 11:09:30 1991
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From: Late Nite Amiga BBS [804-262-9944]
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RE: No, you're right, we don't,,,
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TO: Jeff Stevens #34 @6460
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According to the now infamous tech manual (the writer's one, heaven and
|
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Roddenberry forbid I should quote the Franz Joseph one), the following chart
|
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holds for the Enterprise:
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Ship Number Commander Class
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NCC-1701 J.T.Kirk Constitution
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NCC-1701 (refit) J.T.Kirk Constitution
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NCC-1701A J.T.Kirk Constitution
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NCC-1701B ??? Excelsior
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NCC-1701C Rachel Garrett Ambassador
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NCC-1701D Jean-Luc Somebody Galaxy
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Another interesting note or two: NCC-1701-D was launched in 2363, the first
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year of ST*TNG was 2364. Also, ship classes are named according to the name
|
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of the first ship of that class that is launched. Therefore there should be a
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USS Galaxy somewhere around, and maybe there is still a USS Ambassador.
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Also, of course J.T.Kirk was not the only commander of some of those
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ships.
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Hal
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62/150: Data in love
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Name: Hal Nine Thousand #133 @8405
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Date: Wed Jun 12 11:13:06 1991
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From: Late Nite Amiga BBS [804-262-9944]
|
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|
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RE: ..
|
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TO: Aahz #109 @9409
|
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|
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I noticed "In Theory" was written by Joe Menosky (sp?) and Ron D. Moore.
|
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These two are the executive story editors. Someone said they were wondering
|
||
what the writers planned. I think you can take this episode as a good example
|
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of how they view Data, since the authors are rather high up the chain of
|
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command.
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Hal
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63/150: Wrong...
|
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Name: Hal Nine Thousand #133 @8405
|
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Date: Wed Jun 12 11:20:10 1991
|
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From: Late Nite Amiga BBS [804-262-9944]
|
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|
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RE: A few reasons why Star Trek should/could never be
|
||
TO: The Neon Samurai #278 @5415
|
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|
||
You bring up some interesting points in your comments on why Star Trek
|
||
could never be. You are also interposing your opinions and working with
|
||
incomplete information.
|
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As to the transporter: Who says it cannot handle that amount of energy?
|
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Why should it not be able to? And for static, a subspace pathway called an
|
||
Annular Confinement Beam is opened to be used by the transporter. The energy
|
||
is sent directly through the ACB.
|
||
As to color and fashion: Fashions change. I just read an article last
|
||
week about polyester returning due to a change in chemistry and fashion. The
|
||
colors are your own taste. Fashions and tastes change and oscilitate. Your
|
||
tastes are no reason to condemn something else.
|
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As to the warp speed, you have omitted the "pseudo-science" of subspace
|
||
and warp fields. When we talked about Wesley's bubble, someone pointed out
|
||
how many of the theories put forth by minds such as Stephen Hawking come close
|
||
to some theories mentioned or touched upon in the episode "Remember Me."
|
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I don't mind a two way discussion, but you have facts for only one side.
|
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Get all the facts, then you'll be ready to discuss everything. You do like to
|
||
know all the facts before you make up your mind, don't you? I mean you have
|
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no objection to learning both sides of the issue, right?
|
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|
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Hal
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|
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64/150: Question:
|
||
Name: Beastie Boy #37 @9985
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 22:37:15 1991
|
||
From: Chaos! [919-766-7650]
|
||
|
||
Ok...what would happen if some two people went onto the HoliDeck and ran in
|
||
seperate directions? In other words, how does the HD scroll with the people?
|
||
|
||
Please E*MAIL me as I don't read all the msgs on here that often...
|
||
|
||
Hit 'A'...Beastie Boy|/-\|/-\||/-\|/-\ Boy
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
65/150: in that episode....
|
||
Name: Aahz #109 @9409
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 06:54:09 1991
|
||
From: Da Rucci BBS [904-743-7052]
|
||
|
||
RE: Not quite..
|
||
|
||
the one with the time change when Tar was still alive and the Fed.. was at war
|
||
was interesting.. I liked it how guinan was the only person who sensed that
|
||
something was wrong. I think that that was interesting but if gunian is
|
||
blessed with this soirt of "sense" in the episode where all the mind's of
|
||
everyone on the enterprise was erased except for Data's and he had to cover up
|
||
that there was life on that planet they had gone to.. how come Guinan didn't
|
||
sense anything
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
66/150: Muffin story continued
|
||
Name: Steve Manitsas #121 @6951
|
||
Date: Tue Jun 11 18:23:36 1991
|
||
From: Enigma - TNG [619-453-1819]
|
||
|
||
RE: English Muffins
|
||
|
||
William Shatner (continued):
|
||
|
||
Kelley finally figured something was wrong and he lifted the bar on the
|
||
toaster. NOTHING! Kelley twisted his face and put his hand on his forehead,
|
||
he whispered "shit." He looked around. He didn't see me. He looked back at
|
||
the toaster. "God damn it," still whispering "... Now I KNOW I ..." The
|
||
hand returns to his forehead, "shit." Kelley now, with determination takes
|
||
the last english muffin from the bag, and takes the knife firmly in his hand,
|
||
and with purposefull thrusts of the blade cuts the english muffin in half.
|
||
Then he puts it in the toaster, standing guard, with all his attention on it.
|
||
|
||
I grab the makeup man again, and once again I thrust my finger at Kelley,
|
||
"DISTRACT HIM!" Once again, the makeup man takes DeForrst Kelley aside and
|
||
Shatner makes his move for the english muffin. Mission accomplished: Shatner
|
||
has the muffin -- but NO PLACE to hide it. Kelley returns to the table, and
|
||
Shatner stuffs the whole thing in his mouth, he chokes. Kelley comes over to
|
||
where Bill Shatner is sitting at the end of the table and smiles. Bill has
|
||
his hand around his throat and while spitting fragments of english muffin
|
||
utters his plea "CALL 9-1-1 !"
|
||
|
||
-- Steve Manitsas
|
||
|
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|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
67/150: yes
|
||
Name: Chronos #114 @2383
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 22:36:51 1991
|
||
From: Guilded Globes [213-594-0505]
|
||
|
||
RE: "In Theory"
|
||
|
||
You are right, they should have either ended that part quicker, or if they
|
||
wanted to get really deep and probe it to a better conclusion, have made it a
|
||
two part episode. Alot of the times the TNG leaves me wanting....Wanting alot
|
||
of stuff, usuually a proper ending. ST had good beginings, middles and
|
||
ends...TNG just quits and puts up titles, they dont really finish the show. AS
|
||
you said also the whole portrayal was totally OFF.....
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Host With The Most -=-=-=-=-=-=-=->> Chronos
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
68/150: well
|
||
Name: Chronos #114 @2383
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 22:41:23 1991
|
||
From: Guilded Globes [213-594-0505]
|
||
|
||
RE: Well, Mycroft...
|
||
|
||
I <20>think they do have a BIG problem with DATA. They want him to be like Spock
|
||
but cant do it. Sometimes he is a perfect machine, and others he is a goofy
|
||
person. They cant make up their minds in any<6E><79> way that makes perfect sense.
|
||
Spock was unique cause he was half human and half Vulcan. Thus it was
|
||
accept/fble for him to <20><>have confussion and proble<6C>ms. Data should by all
|
||
intents and purposes be perfect. Emotions are impossible in a set of circuits.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Host With The Most -=-=-=-=-=-=-=->> Chronos
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
69/150: I agree
|
||
Name: Chronos #114 @2383
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 22:45:19 1991
|
||
From: Guilded Globes [213-594-0505]
|
||
|
||
RE: In Theory...
|
||
|
||
The girl Jenna kept playing with Datas mind (as it were) trying to trip him
|
||
up. I mean a person you can do that to and have some human reacti<74><69>ons but a
|
||
machine would have only direct reactions. Like when she told him to go back to
|
||
painting. That was stupid. I would have gone back to painting also the way she
|
||
worded it and the tone of her voice. Then later she sais, nope sorry I was
|
||
just testing you....That doesnt wash. She was screwed in the head....Think
|
||
about it guuys, how many of you could have done better or would even have put
|
||
<EFBFBD><EFBFBD>up with her for very long....Yea she was cute but a real heachache
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Host With The Most -=-=-=-=-=-=-=->> Chronos
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
70/150: Also
|
||
Name: Chronos #114 @2383
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 22:54:08 1991
|
||
From: Guilded Globes [213-594-0505]
|
||
|
||
RE: O'Brien, transport me to 10 forward....
|
||
|
||
I beleive that in the begining they were doing site to site tranporting and it
|
||
just didnt have the real flavor of the old days. They had so many good sceens
|
||
in the old transporter room that they probably<6C><79> decided to bring it more into
|
||
use. Otherwise they would have kept doing the site to site transportations and
|
||
we would be arguing why bot<6F>oer having a transporter room in the first place.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
The Host With The Most -=-=-=-=-=-=-=->> Chronos
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
71/150: From Lampoon True Facts
|
||
Name: Zen Coyote #125 @9955
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 04:55:15 1991
|
||
From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
|
||
|
||
"This curious addendum was published in LA Weekly: "In last week's film
|
||
review of Star Trek V, Helen Knode wondered if in Star Trek VI they'll put
|
||
Jim, Bones, and Scotty naked in a hot tub together playing hide the sasuage.
|
||
She meant to ask whether they'll put Jim, Bones, and SPOCK together to play
|
||
hide the sasuage. She apologizes for any misunderstanding."
|
||
|
||
Have a less than normal day. :-)
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
72/150: Vendetta
|
||
Name: Caesar #309 @4401
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 05:01:28 1991
|
||
From:^Iconian Gateway [404-426-1941]
|
||
|
||
I read Vendetta recently, and I have one major objection. According to the
|
||
book, the Federation is already dead. It just hasn't stopped moving yet.
|
||
|
||
Look, the Preservers were the most powerful, technologically advanced
|
||
civilization ever known to exist. They lost to the Borg because they
|
||
disliked war. However, when they finally put their hearts into it, they
|
||
managed to create an ultimate weapon. It took a grand total of 5 Borg cubes
|
||
to destroy it, and only 3 really were important to the actual destruction.
|
||
|
||
I think that David has misplaced the strength of the Borg. In his book, they
|
||
are just plain powerful. It's like going up against an irresistable force.
|
||
However, in the series (true canon, here), they are nasty principally because
|
||
you have to invent a new weapons system each time you attack them, because
|
||
they'll adapt instantly. THAT'S their true strength, that and the fact that
|
||
they're so big that a single blast from just about any weapon wouldn't hurt
|
||
them enough to put them out of commission before it became useless. And they
|
||
repair fast. Naturally, a fleet of Starships armed with regulation strength
|
||
phasers and such wouldn't even harm it.
|
||
|
||
According to the book, of the 3 ways to defeat the Borg reliably, only one
|
||
would wo k. rThe 3 ways are a) create a weapon that simply cannot be stopped,
|
||
by the laws of physics (whatever they are in Star Trek), b) Create a nasty
|
||
weapon and a jammer too, so they never find out what hit them to adapt to it,
|
||
and c) become a Borg, or the equivalent, and adapt as fast as they do.
|
||
|
||
According to Vendetta, only type A attacks would work, they'd be too powerful
|
||
to be hurt by type B and C attacks.
|
||
|
||
Just talking,
|
||
Caesar
|
||
|
||
|
||
---
|
||
<EFBFBD> 4401 <20> Iconian GateWay <20> Marietta <20> Georgia <20> 404-426-1941 <20> Star Trek
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
73/150: stupidity is exactly what played a role in this one...
|
||
Name: Twilight #1 @8263
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 07:28:42 1991
|
||
From: RingWorld [812-339-6632]
|
||
|
||
RE: What ever happened to the........
|
||
|
||
hers.
|
||
|
||
you appear to be speaking of Denise Crosby who played Tasha Yar the Security
|
||
Chief -- she left the show during the first season because she felt she wasn't
|
||
getting enough air time. her brilliant acting has since taken her to such
|
||
lofty heights as "pet cemetary" (ooh, aahhh) -- she has since come back to the
|
||
series twice -- once in a time travel episode and once as a Romulan Commander
|
||
-- she will probably appear in the season finale once again as the Romulan
|
||
Commander -- tho we hope she'll come out of the shadow's this time...
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
shade and sweetwater, twilight
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
74/150: A side nOTE about Ertl/AMT's Trek models...
|
||
Name: Omega Man #1 @5282
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 15:50:02 1991
|
||
From: Klingon Empire [512-459-1088]
|
||
|
||
RE: Klingon Attack Cruiser model?
|
||
|
||
...actually, for the 1986 toy trade shows, Ertl/AMT was displaying the
|
||
scratchbuilt prototype for the Excelsior, and mentioned the possibility of
|
||
casting the Bird of Prey as well if the demand was there. The demand for the
|
||
BOP was there, but sales on the Enterprise kits with the STIII rebox were
|
||
dismal, and were interpreted as a loss of interest in Trek-based kits. Of
|
||
course, why buy a kit just to get a new box? Most people wouldn't, and most
|
||
people didn't....
|
||
|
||
|
||
OM
|
||
|
||
[Klingon Empire BBS] <> [512-459-1088] <> [WWIVnet Node 5282]
|
||
"My momma says to get things done, you'd better not mess with Major Tom!"
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
75/150: Get a life.....
|
||
Name: Captain Quirk #1 @5312
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 21:01:29 1991
|
||
From: The Capital Connection [503-371-6566]
|
||
|
||
RE: A few reasons why Star Trek should/could never be
|
||
|
||
I read your list of "facts"..... entertaining......
|
||
|
||
|
||
I thought you would like to hear a few "facts" from much less than two hundred
|
||
years ago..... to sort of go along with the impossible ones ST predicts for two
|
||
hundred years in the future. Please keep in mind that these "facts" were
|
||
"unbreakable laws" supported by the science of the time.
|
||
|
||
|
||
1. The human body will not survive at speeds greater that 25 miles a hour.
|
||
|
||
2. Man will never fly.
|
||
|
||
3. The moon is not reachable.
|
||
|
||
4. No machine is capable of playing Chess.
|
||
|
||
5. It's impossible to break the sound barrier.
|
||
|
||
There must be more examples, but I can't think of any more..... some of you
|
||
bright types out there should be able to fill in more "impossible" things. How
|
||
about it Steve? Hal?
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
76/150: More thoughts on Albert....
|
||
Name: Captain Quirk #1 @5312
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 21:16:19 1991
|
||
From: The Capital Connection [503-371-6566]
|
||
|
||
"As you approch light speed, the mass of the ship expands", so says Albert....
|
||
Maybe thats the key to FTL travel. To travel 10 light years, you accelerate
|
||
your ship until the ship size grows to 100 light years, then slow it back down
|
||
again.... but first select a different center of mass! The ship will colapse
|
||
around the new center, leaving you at your destination!
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
77/150: The only real problem there is
|
||
Name: Warrior Justice #89 @7653
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 15:56:23 1991
|
||
From: The Dungeon [716-656-8573]
|
||
|
||
RE: A few reasons why Star Trek should/could never be
|
||
BY: The Neon Samurai #278 @5415
|
||
|
||
RE: #3:
|
||
When you said that the mass of the enterprise would increase,
|
||
you were right. Only, as you said E=MC(C) and Albert originally. So, the
|
||
energy to move the Enterprise would also increase, and the "warp" engines
|
||
providing the extra power, it could surpass this. And the comment about not
|
||
having the room to have the Enterprise move, well, only the MASS increases,
|
||
not the actual area. So there would be enough room.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
78/150: lessee...
|
||
Name: Warrior Justice #89 @7653
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 16:10:25 1991
|
||
From: The Dungeon [716-656-8573]
|
||
|
||
RE: Help..
|
||
BY: The Black Knight #311 @3110
|
||
|
||
Okay, here goes my xplination. Probably not right, but what the
|
||
heck. Okay, even at warp 9 the Enterprise is not moving at light speed. The
|
||
ship travelling behind it at warp 8 isn't either. Light moves in all
|
||
directions, so, the light to see the rear ship Would be travelling at "light"
|
||
speed, so in an iundetermined amount (i'm not too surw how fast any "warp"
|
||
factor is) of time ( relatively fast I assume) the light from the rear ship
|
||
would over take the Enterprise, thereby registering on their monitors.
|
||
I 've always wondered why the Enterprise can't move faster than
|
||
the speed of light. If, as the thoery goes, mass inctrease as the energy of an
|
||
object increases, and vice versa, wouldn't that be assuming that no other
|
||
outside force is affecting the speed. If the Enterprise kicks it's engines up
|
||
and hits the speed of light, then why could they not do it (kick up the
|
||
engines) when they are at the speed of light. Then moving faster, having both
|
||
the needed energy, and mass, to go past it. Also if aomething ever got to the
|
||
speed of light (real life now not ST) then droped off a piece of itself,
|
||
wouldn't the energy at that point be greater that the mass, thereby speed ing
|
||
up until the weight and mass were again even? Hmmm...
|
||
Any way, hope that answers your question.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
79/150: true
|
||
Name: Chronos #114 @2383
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 22:32:00 1991
|
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From: Guilded Globes [213-594-0505]
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RE: Woman trapped in the floor in "In Theory"
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That did seem pretty silly to me also. If she had fallen into a void why didnt
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she keep going all the way through it. AS you said why was her head still
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upright, andas her head upright and why were her eyes still open ? Not too
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well done I must agree......
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The Host With The Most -=-=-=-=-=-=-=->> Chronos
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80/150: Question:
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Name: The Melody Maker #1435 @1
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Date: Fri Jun 14 17:22:53 1991
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From:&Amber [213-208-6689]
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I was wondering... Since I love the old episodes of Star Trek, how many of
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the old episodes are there... I've seen about 68 of them but I know there is
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about 10 more... Anyone know the exact figure??
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>>>>> ThE MeLoDy MaKeR <<<<<
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81/150: Transporters
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Name: Hal Nine Thousand #133 @8405
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Date: Fri Jun 14 10:19:48 1991
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From: Late Nite Amiga BBS [804-262-9944]
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RE: You
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TO: Mr. Potato Head #79 @2392
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>don't even need ONE transporter! Didn't you see the episode where Data went
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>to visit Dr. Soom (however you spell it) The transporters can perform
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>site-to-site transporting so that you don't even need one. Same for last
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>season's finale. They transported from the shuttle to the Borg ship, didn't
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>they?
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Like a bad check, I've just bounced back. I had a comment on this post,
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but I thought I'd mention a few things from the tech manual about transporters
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while I'm at it.
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1) If you convert a person to energy, you have a heck of a lot of energy that
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has to be handled carefully.
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2) It takes a lot of energy to run the t-porter.
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3) Casual t-porting (I'm tired of typing) from one deck to another would waste
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mucho energy. That's one reason it's not used. It's also overkill. Kind of
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like driving to your next door neighbors (unless he's 25 miles away).
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4) Site-to-site transporting does require a transporter, but that doesn't mean
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the user has to ever actually be in the chamber.
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5) Site-to-site is only used in emergency. Why? The outrageous amount of
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energy involved. More than normal transporting.
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6) If an enemy ship has its shields up, there is no way you can transport a
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photon torpedo aboard (or anything else, for that matter).
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7) T-porting a photon torpedo would be dangerous anyway, since they contain
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anti-matter. Everything has to work just right or ka-boom.
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8) The shuttle had an emergency transporter. Data pointed that out. They had
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to use it because the Borg had modified their shield. Apparently all these
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little expeditions to the cubeship were getting annoying.
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Hal
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***> WWIVnet Origin: Late Nite Amiga BBS/8405 - Richmond, VA - (804) 262-9944
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Home of CITIES IN FLIGHT (18405) The SF&F Literature Sub
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82/150: To Ahaz, re: replicating people
|
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Name: Pythagoras #157 @9955
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Date: Fri Jun 14 13:49:21 1991
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From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
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|
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Reply to : ;;;
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Original by : Aahz #109 @9409
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It has been stated several times that the replicates are not able to
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replicate everything. They simple CANNOT replicate humans. Ethics has
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nothing to do with it.
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83/150: Why not transport a photon torpedo onto an enemy ship?
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Name: Pythagoras #157 @9955
|
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Date: Fri Jun 14 13:52:24 1991
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From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
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|
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Reply to : transporters
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Original by : Adept Osiris #27 @7653
|
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Because you cannot transport ANYTHING to or from a ship that has its shields
|
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raised, that's why.
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|
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(Well, there are exceptions to this, most notably in the TNG epiosde "The
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Wounded." But it applies in general.)
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Pagoras
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/
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84/150: Data.......
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Name: Miss Scarlett #2 @3302
|
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Date: Fri Jun 14 08:35:07 1991
|
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From: Terra Main [303-830-8098]
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|
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RE: ..
|
||
|
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I saw that one of his sources was 1950's family sitcoms (honey! I'm home!),
|
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and a few soap operas.
|
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|
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It was a funny show (what I saw of it). After something as serious as a
|
||
person being melted into the floor, there was some necessary comic relief.
|
||
yes, there is a different directing style, but I'd like to see him direct
|
||
something else so that I could be a better judge. For all I know, the script
|
||
could have been lame or something.
|
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|
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Miz Scahlett
|
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----<-(@
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Origin:Terra MainReally out of this world.Auto Sysop Validation
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85/150: hmmmm... What blond are you referring to??
|
||
Name: Dr. Manhattan #39 @3302
|
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Date: Wed Jun 12 05:25:21 1991
|
||
From: Terra Main [303-830-8098]
|
||
|
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Well, It would be nice if you could recite and episode or two to give us a
|
||
general feeling of who it might be.... As for Big feet... Counselor Troi will
|
||
do nicely... Has a Nose the size of a mountain though... I saw her in person
|
||
at a Starcon.... God she's amazingly beautiful... No kidding, much better in
|
||
person than on T.V. .... OH, another thing... Notice how every babe on TNG has
|
||
a how should I say this... Shapely Body??? Think about it... Who wants to see
|
||
unshapely babes in Spandex?? I certainly don't...
|
||
|
||
>*<? Dr. Manhattan ?>*<
|
||
|
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Origin:Terra MainReally out of this world.Auto Sysop Validation
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|
||
|
||
|
||
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86/150: Visit to a Wierd Planet
|
||
Name: Edward Darlow #319 @9409
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 02:03:39 1991
|
||
From: Da Rucci BBS [904-743-7052]
|
||
|
||
Does anyone have a copy of this old fan story? I read it several years ago, it
|
||
deals with the crew of TOS accidently beaming into the TV studio where Star
|
||
Trek is being filmed. It lead to a sequel A Visit To a Wierd Planet Revisited
|
||
in the short story book...New Voyages. The first one is what I am looking for.
|
||
Does anyone have any of the old fanzines they would be willing to sell? Please
|
||
get in touch with me. Thanks.
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||
Edward Darlow
|
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|
||
|
||
|
||
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87/150: Replicating and synthahol.
|
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Name: Firesong #18 @5912
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 15:39:12 1991
|
||
From:^The Garage [509-483-0042]
|
||
|
||
On the contrary...real alcohol cane replicated, and has been - there was the
|
||
one episode where one colony had become clones, the other Irish fascimiles,
|
||
and Worf showed the leader of Irish types how to get actual alcohol.. They go
|
||
by tastes, but in general, I suspect synthanol is safest, so used
|
||
most...getting drunk in important negotiations is not helpful - that's why the
|
||
Ferrengi came up with synthanol.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
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88/150: My opinion
|
||
Name: Makor #100 @3309
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 01:07:15 1991
|
||
From: S.C.C.O.R.E. B.B.S. [303-788-1618]
|
||
|
||
Spock: I believe the name is Pon-Farr. And, as someone mentioned, Vulcans do
|
||
feel, they just refuse to express/accept it and only durring intense emotion
|
||
(like Pon-Farr) does it show. Also, if we are to consider the novels as good
|
||
sorces, then it is not only durring that stage for in Vulcan's Glory, Spock
|
||
fell for (and made love to) another Vulcan after (I believe) being turned down
|
||
by his 'wife'.
|
||
Warp: I'm not sure but warp drive is, like subspace, not of this universe.
|
||
I'm not certain if it's a universe where the speed of light is extremely fast,
|
||
or where the speed of light is unimportant. In either case, when a ship goes
|
||
into warp, there is no image of it simply because it's not there. So you
|
||
would not be able to se the image after a few days because no light from this
|
||
universe has reflected off it. However, now that I think about it, in the
|
||
warp universe, the speed of light must be very fast (not the second choise)
|
||
because, as someone else mentioned, a ship traveling through warp can see
|
||
behind it (but
|
||
From S.C.C.O.R.E. B.B.S. WWIV Node 3309 (303) 788-1618 Sysop: YOGI
|
||
Statewide Consumers of Colorado On the Rise for Expression
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
89/150: Cont.
|
||
Name: Makor #100 @3309
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 01:16:13 1991
|
||
From: S.C.C.O.R.E. B.B.S. [303-788-1618]
|
||
|
||
Of course, a ship within warp cannot see an object in our universe and vise
|
||
versa.
|
||
Transporters: At first I though it was tradition. You know when the first
|
||
transporters came out they needed two pads, and as technology increased the
|
||
tradition stayed. However, I don't think so (maybe to some extent but not
|
||
completely). The act of converting matter to energy is (relatively) easy. We
|
||
can do it ourselves, and should be to ST standards by the end of nest century
|
||
(assuming all goes well). However, converting energy to matter will take us
|
||
another century. It is a (relatively) simple mechanical problem. But, to
|
||
shoot the energy several kilometers away and Then convert it, well that seems
|
||
impossible. After all, you now don't have a mechanism to do it. Instead you
|
||
have to use some sort of beam, either in our universe, or in subspace, that
|
||
converts matter (or energy) into the opposite when it comes in contact. Sort
|
||
of like the beam in Macroscope. So the energy is
|
||
From S.C.C.O.R.E. B.B.S. WWIV Node 3309 (303) 788-1618 Sysop: YOGI
|
||
Statewide Consumers of Colorado On the Rise for Expression
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
90/150: Mickey...
|
||
Name: Tauran Knight #1 @2457
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 20:42:39 1991
|
||
From: Knight Court [214-289-8524]
|
||
|
||
RE: IN THEORY...
|
||
|
||
I have to agree. I can take Freddie Krueger and Jason and other gore like
|
||
that, but the lady in the floor was a real stomach churner. In a way, I am
|
||
glad she was dead when they found her! It would have been horrible were she
|
||
still alive and squirming. Technically, only the lower part of her body was
|
||
destroyed. She could have lived a moment or two longer... Eeek!
|
||
|
||
Tauran Knight
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
91/150: Admiral Kirk... My thoughts on Data.
|
||
Name: Tauran Knight #1 @2457
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 22:31:48 1991
|
||
From: Knight Court [214-289-8524]
|
||
|
||
RE: Number of items
|
||
|
||
I started to wonder about DATA's significance as an android. Every show up
|
||
until now has had him express somewhat of an emotional response... with Tasha
|
||
and with her sister. He's like a little boy. But, until this latest episode,
|
||
I really didn't think of him as anything other than a painted up human. He
|
||
really does a good job with his part.
|
||
|
||
TK
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
92/150: Ships being to fine?
|
||
Name: Silicon Surfer #16 @5299
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 05:22:56 1991
|
||
From: Tejas [512-467-0663]
|
||
|
||
Hmm, I don't agree with that. It is supposed to be the 24th century, is it
|
||
not? And it seems that if the ship weren't so good, people would get awfully
|
||
sick of it. Now, don't get me wrong, but if you were going to spend the
|
||
better part of your time on a ship, wouldn't you want it to be
|
||
nice/comfortable/homey?
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
93/150: well...
|
||
Name: Iceman #245 @2306
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 16:46:20 1991
|
||
From: Cheers! [DSS] [203-826-6249]
|
||
|
||
BY: Footpad Ice Cube #196 @7653
|
||
RE: borg...
|
||
|
||
thats just it, the Borg woulndt fit in real life.... BECAUSE they're no wher
|
||
near our time ! ... You say they can't keep rebuilding their ship while
|
||
getting attacked at the same time, but that is very much posssible in the
|
||
FUTURE ... If the Borg were to pop in on Planet Earth 1991, we'd be space
|
||
junk! ... the concept of the Borg is designed for a look at the future, where
|
||
regeneration of the ship while being attacked is probably nothing out of the
|
||
ordinary ...
|
||
|
||
you gotta live then to understand the time...
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
94/150: Ertl models
|
||
Name: O.D.W.E. #14 @6500
|
||
Date: 06/15/91 at 12:37 am <MDT>
|
||
From: The Pentagon [605-348-4216]
|
||
|
||
[ Reply to ] Klingon Attack Cruiser model?
|
||
[Msg Status] No reply needed.
|
||
__________________________________________________________________
|
||
|
||
I was just talking to a friend about that very same subject(a release of the
|
||
Klingon battlecruiser).
|
||
I just bought the Adversary Kit...a set of three models-the Romulan
|
||
Warbird(not full size/grumble grumble...), the Klingon bird of Prey, and the
|
||
Ferengi Marauder.
|
||
I still remember the old Enterprise bridge, but my model is long gone....
|
||
|
||
|
||
Origin: -[The Pentagon]- WWIVnet @6500 USR Dual Standard
|
||
(605) 348-4216 Rapid City, SD. SNARFable
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
95/150: Conventions
|
||
Name: Bethnal #2 @5465
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 23:26:16 1991
|
||
From: JAVA BBS [514-462-9285]
|
||
|
||
I don't know if I've posted this before (my memory is getting really bad
|
||
these days) but here is it (maybe again, I don't know).
|
||
|
||
July 20-21 at Le Palaise Congres in Montreal there will be a major
|
||
Convention featuring Nichel Nichols and Star Trek VI info!
|
||
|
||
Be there! I will.
|
||
|
||
Bethnal the Black
|
||
SysOp#2 of JAVA BBS (WWIVnet @5465)
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
96/150: Novels and approval (I know, I know)
|
||
Name: Mycroft #81 @5311
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 09:59:15 1991
|
||
From:^Milliway's [503-644-3537]
|
||
|
||
RE: FASA
|
||
|
||
Admiral:
|
||
|
||
You made one slightly confusing statement back there, in claiming that "the
|
||
novels are only BASED on the series, they are not approved by Paramount or Gene
|
||
Roddenberry."
|
||
|
||
That's accurate for purposes of determining what *information* is "canonical"
|
||
to the ST film and TV series -- the merits of which policy can and have been
|
||
debated until we're all in the hospital with sore typing fingers.
|
||
|
||
HOWEVER, it is emphatically not true that Paramount doesn't approve the novels
|
||
generally. Reading novel proposals and MSS delivered from Pocket is apparently
|
||
one of Richard Arnold's jobs, and there are others with influence on this
|
||
process. (Peter David tells the story that he won Paramount "approval" for
|
||
Q-IN-LAW, the novel in which Q must cope with Lwaxana Troi, by managing to get
|
||
a manuscript of same into the hands of Majel Barrett, whereupon Barrett
|
||
apparently *leaned* on the licensing folks....)
|
||
|
||
Merely clarifying.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
97/150: Spock\Kirk\Picard\Riker II
|
||
Name: Screaming Eagle #70 @5650
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 19:43:38 1991
|
||
From: Sex World BBS [516-488-8368]
|
||
|
||
I agree 100% about the splitting of Kirk and Spock. The first time I saw TNG,
|
||
all I could think about was how they had split Spock's role and abilities into
|
||
two different characters, although for some reason, I never clicked on that
|
||
Kirk was totally split. Riker seems to fill the 'macho' role that Kirk
|
||
played(bedding just about every woman who comes aboard) and I suppose Picard
|
||
fills the good leader part of Kirk. Just as I've been thinking, TNG needs
|
||
twice as many characters(and 3 times as much money) to do what TOS did. Sounds
|
||
like we have a little error here. Just like I always say:TOS is BETTER!
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
98/150: Final Frontier(No relation to the movie,again)
|
||
Name: Screaming Eagle #70 @5650
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 20:14:29 1991
|
||
From: Sex World BBS [516-488-8368]
|
||
|
||
Just FYI, Kirk's father was also on board the starship with April. He
|
||
functioned as the security officer and perhaps as something else. There was an
|
||
espionage investigation during the course of the story and he headed that up.
|
||
He played the role of advisor and actor(one who does actions) of April. His
|
||
name was George Samuel Kirk Sr. According to the novel, he never told his sons
|
||
about it and it was kept under the highest security ad STC because when the
|
||
Enterprise confronted the Romulans, according to the Enterprise's memory banks
|
||
no human and romulan had ever met face to face, which was what happened in the
|
||
novel.
|
||
Screaming Eagle
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
99/150: Spock vs. Data
|
||
Name: Screaming Eagle #70 @5650
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 23:48:50 1991
|
||
From: Sex World BBS [516-488-8368]
|
||
|
||
Although some of the characteristics are similar and I DO belive that Spock
|
||
was split into Data and Troi, it is intended to be an opposite battle. Spock
|
||
fights to repress his emotions, while data strives to gain his. However, same
|
||
old conflict, I think its just a gimmick for more story lines....
|
||
Just Speculating(borrowed that one from o'l J. Caesar)
|
||
Screaming Eagle
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
100/150: It wasn't Turnabout Intruder
|
||
Name: Screaming Eagle #70 @5650
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 00:11:37 1991
|
||
From: Sex World BBS [516-488-8368]
|
||
|
||
Just FYI, I believe the episode was titled "The Enemy Within". I've been
|
||
seeing alot of posting about whether Spock ever assumed command. Do you mean
|
||
just took over when Kirk left or Forcefully(Legally or Physically) removes him
|
||
from command. Let me know so I can put something in.
|
||
Screaming Eagle
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
101/150: Spock-Data/Troi/Work
|
||
Name: Screaming Eagle #70 @5650
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 00:22:34 1991
|
||
From: Sex World BBS [516-488-8368]
|
||
|
||
I meant ^^^^^^Worf. Anyway, that is a good point. I originally reiterated that
|
||
I thought Spock was split into Data and Troi. The point about him also being
|
||
split into Worf-the resident alien, is a very valid one. Half of spocks's
|
||
purpose originally on TOS was just to be very alien yet accepted and
|
||
aprreciated. Looks like TNG was able to wring even more characters and story
|
||
lines out of good ol Spock. And seeing as they split Kirk into Picard and
|
||
Riker, seems to me that TNG is getting a bargain out of TOS. What a crock...,
|
||
tell me why TNG needs five times as many characters... because each individual
|
||
character is about as deep as a wading pool! This seems to be a
|
||
plot-stimulating move and coming from "The Great Bird of the Galaxy" I find it
|
||
pretty disappointing. I think the only I appeal I see(which is very little)
|
||
for TNG is the overworked but good FX and its subliminal resemblance to the
|
||
original.
|
||
Screaming Eagle
|
||
|
||
P.S. How 'bout this split:McCoy's emotional understanding into people like
|
||
Crusher, Yar, and even Riker picked up a bit of McCoy's pricelss rhetoric and sarcasm.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
102/150: TO: Adept Osiris RE: Transporters
|
||
Name: Shadowstar #75 @2524
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 20:30:18 1991
|
||
From: Myth Drannor [205-699-5811]
|
||
|
||
RE: transporters
|
||
BY: Adept Osiris #27 @7653
|
||
|
||
If you check out an earlier issue of the Star Trek comic book, the
|
||
Enterprise transported some Klingon photon torpedoes from coming at them to a
|
||
spot right behind the Klingon ship. Furthermore, they kept their inertia and
|
||
hit it dead on. Lots of readers complained, but the editor told them that
|
||
Paramount (and Gene Roddenberry's staff) approved. Of course, he admitted it
|
||
wasn't a very safe or easy thing to do and would only be resorted to in
|
||
emergencies.
|
||
|
||
Shadowstar #75 @25??
|
||
#13 @2535
|
||
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<20> <20> Myth Drannor @2524 (205)/699-5811 <20> <20>
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<20> A WWIV Monstrosity <20>
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103/150: Breaking light speed.
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Name: Albert #458 @6979
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Date: Sat Jun 15 07:23:14 1991
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From: The Streets of Bakersfield [619-294-5888]
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RE: Get a life.....
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Didn't Albert Einstein say you can't break the speed of light? Many people
|
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said that about the speed of sound before it was broken. We did it! Some day
|
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we'll break the speed of light as well. Now that does not mean Einstein was
|
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an "IDIOT"! He was quite brilliant. But I do believe there are is no such
|
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word as "IMPOSSIBLE". The first time something is done no one before that
|
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knew how to do it. We will break the speed of light some day. Then what will
|
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they say is the ultimate speed? Maybe it's thought. Have you ever day
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dreamed about something and almost thought you were there when in reality you
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weren't. Now harness that speed and you can go anywhere in the universe in a
|
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matter of a second or two. Maybe that's the ultimate speed! Maybe even that
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can br broken! Again I say, then what will the say the ultimate speed is?
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104/150: Woman in floor
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Name: Bikerboy #116 @6979
|
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Date: Sat Jun 15 11:24:59 1991
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From: The Streets of Bakersfield [619-294-5888]
|
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|
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The 'void' as you call it passed through the deck where she was walking, and
|
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then left... as she was falling the deck 'phased back into reality' (for lack
|
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of a better phrase) I personally thought there should be at least a little
|
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blood to show the bodily separation... as it looked in the show all of the
|
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trauma was immediatly cauterized stopping the flow of blood....
|
||
|
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Perhaps as the camera panned down on her, have her head drop forward and
|
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perhaps have her hand go limp as a pool of blood spreads out upon the
|
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carpeting.... that would have added a rather gory end for her...
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|
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Bikerboy
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105/150: Two comments (actually three)
|
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Name: Michael The Prophet #1 @3468
|
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Date: Sat Jun 15 12:05:02 1991
|
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From: The Pyramid BBS [314-861-1232]
|
||
|
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1) You're all basing this on 20th century technology. part two of this is
|
||
that who knows what techonolgy we will have next year or in five years or in
|
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100 or 500 years. Maybe the fuel of tommorrow maybe a refined jello! Imagine
|
||
that we can run machinery on Bill Cosby's jello! This is just an off the wall
|
||
comparision to that we just don't know what lays a head in techonolgy so yes
|
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it can be possible to do anything in the trek world of Gene Rodenberry because
|
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he's based it on us and taken it to where HE thinks it will go. After all if
|
||
you were to tell an 11th century person that people will be cured by moldy
|
||
bread he'd think you were crazy (penacilen).
|
||
|
||
2) Again this is Gene Rodenberrys interpatation of our future..sheesh, some of
|
||
you sound like that there really ARE klingons out there..
|
||
|
||
<20><><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>۳<EFBFBD><DBB3><EFBFBD><EFBFBD> Michael the Prophet <20><><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>۳<EFBFBD><DBB3><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>
|
||
|
||
ps. and 3) Two things controdict eachother but could cooralate. 1) Someone
|
||
said Sulu was in short command of NCC1701-B for a short time (which IS
|
||
possible) but another person said they read that Sulu took command of the
|
||
Excellsor. These could BOTH be true to the 'ongoing' idea because look at
|
||
Picard he was captain of two ships too..
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
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106/150: warp
|
||
Name: Capt. Kirok #16 @6974
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 11:42:52 1991
|
||
From: The Gangs of Vista [619-758-5920]
|
||
|
||
Regarding: More stuff
|
||
Written By: Steven Smith #155 @18
|
||
|
||
> RE: Help..
|
||
>
|
||
> If a starship is traveling at warp speed, and stop a day later,
|
||
> could they wait 2 days or whatever and look back and see themselves?
|
||
> Or if a starship left earth at warp speed, could they look back and
|
||
> see themselves leaving?
|
||
>
|
||
> Steven Smith
|
||
|
||
No, you wouldn't. The starship would be traveling too fast to be perceptual
|
||
by any optical equipment much less our eyes. Besides the point the ship is
|
||
traveling in a subspace warp bubble which can only be seen with special
|
||
sensing equipment.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
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107/150: I musta been asleep during Physics
|
||
Name: Makor #100 @3309
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 15:13:27 1991
|
||
From: S.C.C.O.R.E. B.B.S. [303-788-1618]
|
||
|
||
But the way I remember it...As an object aproaches the speed of light the mass
|
||
increases, but the length, in
|
||
the direction of travel, decreases. Slso, in our universe you cannot reach
|
||
light speed, not that you can't go light speed (photons go that fast) but you
|
||
cannot reach it. Close, but not quite. In fact, electro-magnetic radiation
|
||
is created already going the speed of light (so it dowsn't break this theory).
|
||
|
||
From S.C.C.O.R.E. B.B.S. WWIV Node 3309 (303) 788-1618 Sysop: YOGI
|
||
Statewide Consumers of Colorado On the Rise for Expression
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
108/150: Data's love...
|
||
Name: The Batman #26 @8421
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 20:46:20 1991
|
||
From: Electric Avenues [804-423-3518]
|
||
|
||
I know this post may about a week late, but it took me that long to figure out
|
||
who Data's love was. She was on Alien Nation, which is finally back! Every
|
||
time I heard her talk, I had the strange feeling she was going to say
|
||
"George...", but I had no idea who "George" was until I watched Alien Nation,
|
||
and that was her husband's name on the show, GEORGE FRANCISCO.
|
||
|
||
-=<3D>The Batman<61>=-
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
109/150: But the Novels aren't fact....
|
||
Name: Miss Scarlett #2 @3302
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 16:05:11 1991
|
||
From: Terra Main [303-830-8098]
|
||
|
||
RE: Just for you...
|
||
|
||
they are fiction. Sometimes the show uses things from the novels and
|
||
sometimes they don't.
|
||
|
||
It was either Spot (which is comical since it was an orange tabby) or Spock
|
||
(which is comical since it has pointy ears).
|
||
|
||
Miz Scahlett
|
||
----<-(@
|
||
|
||
Origin:Terra MainReally out of this world.Auto Sysop Validation
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
110/150: beaming through shields ...
|
||
Name: Pythagoras #157 @9955
|
||
Date: Sun Jun 16 07:07:40 1991
|
||
From: Spectrum of Dreams [919-876-7395]
|
||
|
||
Reply to : Transporters
|
||
Original by : Hal Nine Thousand #133 @8405
|
||
|
||
|
||
Actually, you CAN beam through shields. It is just very, very, very,
|
||
tricky/dangerous. Basically, you have to time it so that you go through a
|
||
"hole" that appears every couple of nanoseconds. If you time it wrong ...
|
||
whoops.
|
||
|
||
My source is the 4th seraon episode "The Wounded."
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
111/150: transmorters
|
||
Name: Spiral Architect #246 @2457
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 12:18:21 1991
|
||
From: Knight Court [214-289-8524]
|
||
|
||
|
||
Going from transporter to transporter would seem logical for 3 reasons:
|
||
|
||
1. Added precaution for the individual being teleported
|
||
2. Added precaution for security of the RECEIVING ship
|
||
3. Almost "curtosy" to the receiving ship
|
||
|
||
If you were captain of a ship, you wouldn't want people just rudely
|
||
appearing at random in your ship (possibly on top of someone else). It
|
||
would also be very unorganized and unlike the federation. It also possibly
|
||
allows a small hole in the force shields for receiving at specified times.
|
||
Of course, the any added precaution to keep someones matter from splattering
|
||
in outer space would also be suggested.
|
||
|
||
tSA
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
112/150: Admiral.....
|
||
Name: Komic #98 @5275
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 18:33:04 1991
|
||
From: The Business Board [512-787-8974]
|
||
|
||
[Reply to] FASA
|
||
[By: ] Admiral #91 @9409
|
||
|
||
The novels are not only BASED on Star Trek, but MUST (read MUST) have
|
||
approval from Paramount and from Richard Arnold, before Pocket Books can
|
||
publish the books.....now, they aren't canonical sources, but do have some
|
||
vital information....such as Diane Duane's Spock's World....that book was
|
||
nothing less than stellar, and I would consider that a factual work with
|
||
respect to Vulcan and it's history....
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Komic
|
||
The Devil's Advocate
|
||
|
||
[Message Author] Komic #98 @5275
|
||
[Net Sub Origin] Startrek
|
||
[System] The Business Board <20> Alamo, TX <20> 512-787-8974 <20> 1200/2400
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
113/150: Chronos......
|
||
Name: Komic #98 @5275
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 18:43:06 1991
|
||
From: The Business Board [512-787-8974]
|
||
|
||
[Reply to] well
|
||
[By: ] Chronos #114 @2383
|
||
|
||
I think you have a BIG misperception of what Data is. He is NOT the Spock
|
||
substitute.....he is an android with heuristic learning algorithms....making
|
||
it possible for him to adapt to new circumstances....and to quote him on a
|
||
matter regarding all the information he houses.
|
||
|
||
The line comes from The Offspring
|
||
|
||
|
||
You are wise father
|
||
|
||
It is the difference between knowledge and experience.
|
||
|
||
|
||
He has to continue to evolve, because although he can, with the help of the
|
||
ship's computer, access any known bit of information, his problem stems from
|
||
a lack of experience in interpersonal relationships. That's something Spock
|
||
didn't have a problem with....But with Data, it was a complete tabula rasa.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Komic
|
||
The Devil's Advocate
|
||
|
||
[Message Author] Komic #98 @5275
|
||
[Net Sub Origin] Startrek
|
||
[System] The Business Board <20> Alamo, TX <20> 512-787-8974 <20> 1200/2400
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
114/150: To everyone wondering about
|
||
Name: Komic #98 @5275
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 18:47:21 1991
|
||
From: The Business Board [512-787-8974]
|
||
|
||
[Reply to] The only real problem there is
|
||
[By: ] Warrior Justice #89 @7653
|
||
|
||
how the Enterprise is able to go faster than light, and jump into
|
||
sub-space....here's some information courtesy of Rick Sternbach (the man
|
||
who's job is to come up with all the 'treknology' used on the show). He is
|
||
also as CANONICAL as it's going to get.
|
||
|
||
According to him, the Enterprise accellerates up TO c and beyond in less than
|
||
a constant called Plank's Time (which I've never heard, but is supposed to be
|
||
accurate today), which is 10^-33.
|
||
|
||
As a result, the universe never actually sees the Enterprise at c....because
|
||
it's already beyond that speed...
|
||
|
||
|
||
Komic
|
||
The Devil's Advocate
|
||
|
||
[Message Author] Komic #98 @5275
|
||
[Net Sub Origin] Startrek
|
||
[System] The Business Board <20> Alamo, TX <20> 512-787-8974 <20> 1200/2400
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
115/150: May I assist...
|
||
Name: Bonnie Graas #67 @7708
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 05:09:23 1991
|
||
From: Morning Star BBS [707-263-6612]
|
||
|
||
RE: Of course,
|
||
|
||
I believe the situation you are referring to is the "Pon Farr". And while
|
||
your analysis of "in heat" is, if I may coin a phrase, "somewhat applicable",
|
||
it was explained by Mr. Spock as "the time of mating".
|
||
|
||
I have always liked that particular episode. My favorite passage is T'Pring's
|
||
explanation of why she chose the challenge. Talk about "logical".
|
||
|
||
I always thought I would have liked to have been "a fly on the wall", when
|
||
Stonn left that battlefield. Ha-ha!
|
||
|
||
What a Bitch! But I always say, if you are going to do something, do it well!
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
116/150: Well done!
|
||
Name: Bonnie Graas #67 @7708
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 05:14:34 1991
|
||
From: Morning Star BBS [707-263-6612]
|
||
|
||
RE: In the Paradise Syndrome...
|
||
|
||
You are quite correct. He also assumed command of the Enterprise in the
|
||
episode "The Tholian Web". The Spock/Bones "problem" was anticipated by Kirk
|
||
and he addressed it eloquently in his "last message" to them both. I always
|
||
thought this was a good touch.
|
||
|
||
A tip of the "Star Fleet Cap" to you.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
117/150: Warp drive...
|
||
Name: Medium Rhiannon #104 @7653
|
||
Date: Thu Jun 13 18:11:03 1991
|
||
From: The Dungeon [716-656-8573]
|
||
|
||
Warp-capable starships DO move faster than light. Or -- faster than light
|
||
HERE.
|
||
What the warp drive does, as I understand it, is generate an envelope of
|
||
OTHERSPACE around the starship. There, the speed of light is higher -- MUCH
|
||
higher -- than it is in normal space. The starship can move REAL fast,
|
||
without conflicting with e=mc^2...
|
||
the Impulse drive, on the other hand, should really be called the warp
|
||
drive because what it does is warp normal space, generating "waves" in the
|
||
continuum. The starship moves on the waves... sort of like surfing...
|
||
|
||
<<<<<<<<<<RHIANNON>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
118/150: space travel
|
||
Name: Adept Osiris #27 @7653
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 01:14:47 1991
|
||
From: The Dungeon [716-656-8573]
|
||
|
||
RE: Warp drive...
|
||
BY: Medium Rhiannon #104 @7653
|
||
|
||
what I would like to know is when they travel in uncharted space what prevents
|
||
them from hitting objects at warp speeds? At such high speed how could they
|
||
catch everything on sensors?
|
||
-sky
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
119/150: Romulans
|
||
Name: Seer Rhiannon #104 @7653
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 23:34:39 1991
|
||
From: The Dungeon [716-656-8573]
|
||
|
||
RE: The latest talk with ROMULANS
|
||
BY: Albert #458 @6979
|
||
|
||
Actually, the Romulans are a lot more like the Federation than you'd
|
||
think. (The xenophobic portions of it, true, but still...)
|
||
BTW -- If you haven't read MY ENEMY, MY ALLY and THE ROMULAN WAY, both by
|
||
Diane Duane, space-bar the rest of this post.
|
||
|
||
The Romulan Empire, as portrayed in the Next Generation episodes, has lost
|
||
COMPLETE track of its roots and of mnhei'sahe. They're acting like the
|
||
original series' Klingons. (Translation -- like idiots.) If they're finally
|
||
agreeing with the Federation -- GOOD! It's about bloody TIME! (You wonder if
|
||
Senator Arrhae had any long-lasting influence? Like over whoever made the
|
||
agreement with the Feds?)
|
||
|
||
<<<<<<<<<<RHIANNON>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
120/150: Ethics
|
||
Name: Seer Rhiannon #104 @7653
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 23:39:06 1991
|
||
From: The Dungeon [716-656-8573]
|
||
|
||
RE: ;;;
|
||
BY: Aahz #109 @9409
|
||
|
||
Aahz, I fully agree with your hypothesis that they (presumably the
|
||
Federation) "won't create humans because of ethics". The Federation won't
|
||
allow experimentation with artificial intelligence, either -- because of the
|
||
fact that slavery is unethical... and they'd never be sure what to do. (Data
|
||
was an exception -- and by the time they found out he was "alive", it was too
|
||
late to do anything about it. Dysfunction CAN equal murder...)
|
||
|
||
<<<<<<<<<<RHIANNON>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
121/150: Woman in floor
|
||
Name: Emerald Gladiator #108 @3110
|
||
Date: Sun Jun 16 01:59:20 1991
|
||
From: Inner Limits [301-356-5112]
|
||
|
||
RE: true
|
||
|
||
|
||
You guys are bypassing something...perhaps her death had nothing to do with
|
||
the fact that the floor closed on/around/in/?? her. Perhaps it had to do with
|
||
the dark matter itself. They never showed or even speculated what would occur
|
||
if organic material passed through it.
|
||
|
||
EG
|
||
|
||
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||
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|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
122/150: FUTURE SHIPS
|
||
Name: Marco Bruno #18 @6460
|
||
Date: Sat Jun 15 22:59:38 1991
|
||
From: GWE BBS [614-282-3409]
|
||
|
||
{ REGARDING } : The Enterprize in general
|
||
{ Posted By } : Green Barron #220 @6870
|
||
|
||
The ships in Star Trek dont have to be well rounded, etc. because there is not
|
||
need for aerodynamicity. So yes, I feel as you do in that the ships in
|
||
Aliens, 2001/10, and heck even Battlestar Galactica are realistic. Especially
|
||
since the ship in 2001 (I'm racking my brains out for the name of it) didnt
|
||
make any SOUND in space, another reason why the ships in ST are a little out
|
||
of wack, other than that their great, very imaginative. "Beautiful barges in
|
||
the sea of space".
|
||
|
||
Marco
|
||
|
||
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||
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||
|
||
|
||
123/150: Characters and complaints about TNG
|
||
Name: Hal Nine Thousand #133 @8405
|
||
Date: Sun Jun 16 13:06:18 1991
|
||
From: Late Nite Amiga BBS [804-262-9944]
|
||
|
||
RE: Spock-Data/Troi/Work
|
||
TO: Screaming Eagle #70 @5650
|
||
|
||
Most of this is in reply to Screaming Eagle. Before I talk about the ST
|
||
stuff (either TOS or TNG), I want to say to you, Screaming Eagle, that I'm
|
||
glad to see you on this sub. You articulate your points well and you back
|
||
them up. You don't try to give people a quick opinion and insult them by
|
||
refusing to back it up with only insinuation or insults. I'm always glad to
|
||
see posts by anyone who can state a point of view and support it.
|
||
|
||
Now, on the ST part. I disagree. I've said before that I like TNG better
|
||
than TOS. When I started watching, it seemed to me that TNG had several
|
||
"splits", most notably Kirk=Riker/Picard and Spock=Troi/Data. I don't think
|
||
so now. I also made lists of the casts. I have to admit I left Tasha off the
|
||
TNG list (so if anybody wants to add 1 to the TNG talley, do so). I am not
|
||
making a comparison, but by listing characters I get:
|
||
|
||
TOS
|
||
Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scottie, Sulu, Chekov, Uhura
|
||
|
||
TNG
|
||
Picard, Riker, Beverly, Geordi, Data, Worf, Troi
|
||
|
||
I counted seven each. I did not count Guinan, Barclay, Janice Rand, Lt. Kyle,
|
||
O'Brian or others. I also have to admit I left Wesley off the list (maybe
|
||
because he's not on the current TNG cast list). I get 7 characters versus 7
|
||
characters. I don't think the splitting was done to "create more characters"
|
||
or to get more plotlines. I wonder, though, if the original thinking was what
|
||
abilities and traits were needed.
|
||
|
||
I have to agree, though, that both Worf and Spock were the resident aliens. I
|
||
prefer to use the word token. To be honest, I think there is a certain amount
|
||
of tokenism. In TOS, there was a token woman, black, Russian, oriental, and
|
||
alien. Now we have a token alien (although Troi is 1/2 alien--the token
|
||
half-breed, like Spock), handicapped person (excuse me, differently abled for
|
||
the PC people), token women, and token black. In some cases the roles are
|
||
combined. Notice that the stories still tend to center on WASPs (White
|
||
Anglo-Saxon Protestant), or on Worf.
|
||
|
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Something else to consider: We saw how the cast list changed from "The Cage"
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to "Where No Man Has Gone Before" to "The Mantrap" (first aired TOS).
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Creating a cast and a series is dynamic. Changes are constantly being made.
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I seriously doubt the initial goals were that close to the end results.
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Characteristics and traits were needed, and they were probably adjusted until
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a tight ensemble was worked out.
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I have to admit, I am glad to see the de-emphasis on science from the crew
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point of view. I thought Spock's role as science officer was over-emphasized
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to the point where it was sometimes hard to remember he was also the first
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officer. BAsically, there was no executive officer. Science and the science
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officer always provided the answer. I'm not speaking against science, since I
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love it and SF a lot, but it seemed unrealistic for a military captain to
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always look to the role of science officer for help. True, Spock was
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technically the executive officer, but that never seemed to come out.
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Hal
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124/150: Not to mention range has something to do with it.
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Name: Mr. Dickens #15 @5415
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Date: Mon Jun 17 00:09:43 1991
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From: The Guild [504-282-8270]
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RE: TO: Adept Osiris RE: Transporters
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I don't know what the range of Photon Torpedoes "fired" may be, but
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transporters have always had limitations.
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[BOZ]
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125/150: Enterprises Interior
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Name: Midnight Master #2 @2579
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Date: Mon Jun 17 00:19:37 1991
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From: Chaotic Madness [215-576-5980]
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In response to the post about the Enterprises's interior being too perfect
|
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etc. I would have to agree that Enterprise is a very comfortable ship. The
|
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computers are ... user friendly and most of the time everything to do with the
|
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Enterprises systems runs smoothly.
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The interior of Enterprise was not always so comfortable. Look at the
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older Enterprise ncc17101. You can tell immediately that it wasn't a luxury
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liner. The new Enterprise ncc1701d houses the crew's family. They - well make
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it comfortable for the crew and family. The new Enterprise is realistic I
|
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think because when we eventually travel through the galaxy, we will want to
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make space travel as comfortable and convenient as possible.
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Midnight Master
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126/150: Nice Try, Captain Quirk
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Name: Michael Carpenter #313 @6951
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Date: Sun Jun 16 09:11:39 1991
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From: Enigma - TNG [619-453-1819]
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RE: More thoughts on Albert....
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Quoting Captain Quirk...
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"As you approch light speed, the mass of the ship expands", so says Albert....
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Maybe thats the key to FTL travel. To travel 10 light years, you accelerate
|
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your ship until the ship size grows to 100 light years, then slow it back down
|
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again.... but first select a different center of mass! The ship will colapse
|
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around the new center, leaving you at your destination!
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... End of quote
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That would work, save for the problem that *all* lengths along the velocity
|
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vector of the ship appear to be dilated, so that the mass of the ship becomes
|
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concentrated spatially as reckoned by a "stationary" observer of the ship.
|
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There really aren't any
|
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tricks anyone can pull to get around the physical laws, as we know them to be.
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127/150: Transporter bombs...
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Name: Shawn Stamps #2 @4401
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Date: Sun Jun 16 15:07:29 1991
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From:^Iconian Gateway [404-426-1941]
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|
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RE: Why not transport a photon torpedo onto an enemy ship?
|
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BY: Pythagoras #157 @9955 On: Fri Jun 14 13:52:24 1991
|
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|
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Well, I see the point the fellow was making. Often they are bent on doing
|
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damamge to something (like the Borg ship in BoBW) and they can transport over
|
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and do damage, but they can't beam a bomb over with them (or without them)
|
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and blow the ship into subatomic particles. No excuse possible except 'Well,
|
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I didn't think of that'. The excuse about antimatter being dangerous to
|
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transport is ludicrous. They've done it several times; the last time was
|
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Wesley's science experiment he beamed to the USS Hathaway; and very casually,
|
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I might add.
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Transporter bombs would do one thing, though: They would insure that shields
|
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would be up at most any encounter.
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"I AM A BOMB! I AM GOING TO EXPLODE IN TEN SECONDS! TEN! NINE! EIGHT! YOU
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BETTER RUN! SEVEN!..."
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SS
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Net/Forty-Four Hundred and One
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128/150: yes, MASS does increase to infinity
|
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Name: Floyd #2 @3468
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Date: Sun Jun 16 14:41:33 1991
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From: The Pyramid BBS [314-861-1232]
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RE: The only real problem there is
|
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|
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as you approach the speed of light..likewise (per the LORENTZ-FITZGERALD
|
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CONTRACTION..look it up in any college physics book) ..when a body moves
|
||
through space its dimension parallel to the line of mass should become less by
|
||
an amount DEPENDENT UPON ITS SPEED. if the speed of the body is v, and that
|
||
of light is c, then the contraction is in the ratio of:
|
||
|
||
----------
|
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/ (v*v) .
|
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/ 1 - _____ . 1
|
||
\/ (c*c)
|
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so, at the speed of light, v=c you get a ratio of the objects length of 0:1,
|
||
or a length of 0! so the mass of an object has increased infinitely, and its
|
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length is zero at the speed of light.
|
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129/150: Realism vs. Dramatic Effect
|
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Name: Trekster #78 @6453
|
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Date: Sat Jun 15 16:06:26 1991
|
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From: The Enterprise [614-837-9622]
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|
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After reading some of these messages, there seems to be numerous criticisms
|
||
dealing with the realism of Star Trek (specifically the Next Generation) sucha
|
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as the f<><66>A<EFBFBD><41>emale crewman who got "stuck" between decks. Such scenes may
|
||
appear to be unrealistic and the makers of the show are probably aware to such
|
||
nuances. BUT, they make it that way as to produce a dramatic effect. I wish
|
||
I could think of better examples of this, but I think you can still get the
|
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point.
|
||
|
||
...Picard out!
|
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|
||
|
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|
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|
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130/150: Realism again!
|
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Name: Trekster #78 @6453
|
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Date: Sat Jun 15 16:10:14 1991
|
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From: The Enterprise [614-837-9622]
|
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|
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Another thing about realism. There is one aspect of the Next Generation that
|
||
tries to keep its realism. That is the computer graphic displays. Whenever
|
||
you see a close-up of a computer readout, what you see is completely relevant
|
||
to what is being talked about. I <20>k<EFBFBD><6B><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>f<EFBFBD><66><EFBFBD>]<5D><><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>record every new episode
|
||
and have carefully examined such scenes. It's pretty neat to see that they
|
||
don't overlook such items and that adds to the realism a bunch!
|
||
|
||
...Picard out!
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
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131/150: Pythagoras...
|
||
Name: Komic #98 @5275
|
||
Date: Sun Jun 16 19:00:18 1991
|
||
From: The Business Board [512-787-8974]
|
||
|
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[Reply to] beaming through shields ...
|
||
[By: ] Pythagoras #157 @9955
|
||
|
||
you needed to watch the show a little closer. Yes, O'brien was able to beam
|
||
into the Phoenix, because he KNEW the energy cycling pattern repeated itself
|
||
every 5 minutes, or so....it was THAT knowledge that allowed him to be able
|
||
to time his transport over to the Phoenix....but to do that with a Klingon
|
||
ship, or a Romulan ship would be darned near impossible, without knowing the
|
||
information listed above.
|
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Komic
|
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The Devil's Advocate
|
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[Message Author] Komic #98 @5275
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132/150: Borg from TV and BOOk
|
||
Name: Zone Trooper #24 @6450
|
||
Date: Sun Jun 16 11:14:23 1991
|
||
From:^Valhalla BBS [614-488-2314]
|
||
|
||
I agreee, they screwed up the borg in the book. They were not quite "right".
|
||
I don't really know any other way to put it. The fact that instantly, there
|
||
was a way to defend against a bean on anti-matter from an apparently ordinary
|
||
Borg ship seemed a bit TOO far gone to viewed as realistic as far as the
|
||
storyline went. I'm sorry, but the magnitudes of power being thrown out there
|
||
were just to much to be simply "defelected". They brought the borg down to a
|
||
fightable level with near Star Fleet technology. That's a NONO in my book.
|
||
Gee.. a race whose biggest strength is the ability to adapt to its environs..
|
||
kinda like the human race?
|
||
|
||
food for thought.
|
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||
|
||
133/150: To Chronos re: data's woman
|
||
Name: Jt #159 @6463
|
||
Date: Sun Jun 16 21:12:12 1991
|
||
From: Columbus Skyline [614-267-6453]
|
||
|
||
RE: I agree
|
||
|
||
I agree, when she explained to him he shouldn't have gone back to painting as
|
||
he did, I was anticipating Data to turn his head to one side and wiggle his
|
||
eyes back and forth and say, "scanning.........oh, is this what is refered to
|
||
as a mind game, messing with my head, trying to trip me up,etc." and even
|
||
still, "I suppose this is what as known as a guilt trip...not paying enough
|
||
attention to you....scanning....Ah yes...I'm sorry honey, you're right. I was
|
||
being a jerk would be the appropriate response."
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
134/150: Re: Replicator Technology
|
||
Name: Nick Smith #236 @2396
|
||
Date: Wed Jun 12 00:31:50 1991
|
||
From: DAG BBS [213-546-1861]
|
||
|
||
Actually, the writers keep showing the replicators reproducing VERY complex
|
||
molecular combinations: FOOD. The limitations that they tend to keep to are
|
||
two: You can have a complex structure made up of a simple material, thus
|
||
producing a wine glass, or you can have a complex molecular component in a
|
||
simple form, thus producing the liquid wine (with synthahol, of course). I
|
||
think these two limiting descriptions would cover what we've actually seen
|
||
produced, and still keep the bloody thing from replicating phasers, or intact
|
||
Borgs, or things like that.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
135/150: In Theory
|
||
Name: Lt Barclay #263 @6951
|
||
Date: Sun Jun 16 22:11:59 1991
|
||
From: Enigma - TNG [619-453-1819]
|
||
|
||
RE: true
|
||
|
||
>Woman trapped in the floor in "In Theory"
|
||
>
|
||
>That did seem pretty silly to me also. If she had fallen into a
|
||
>void why didnt she keep going all the way through it.
|
||
|
||
Personally, i liked that touch as it reminded me of "The Philadelphia
|
||
Experiment"
|
||
|
||
as to why she didn't fall into the void, from what I understood, there wree
|
||
bubbles of subspace inbstability (ie holes in the fabric of space/time) if
|
||
the instability phased out the floor just as she stepped on it, she would have
|
||
dropped down and when the deck phased back in, ouch.
|
||
|
||
Hopefully, in a future episode they'll devote some time to the replacement of
|
||
that deck section (eiither rthat or put up with the crew passing around
|
||
stories about the haunted corridor since part of that woman's body would'
|
||
still be in the floor.
|
||
|
||
What gets me though, is that she looked like she was only into the deck up to
|
||
her hips, I can't image why she didn't survive a little longer, at least long
|
||
enough for a dramatic
|
||
"O`brein, medical emergency, beam two to sickbay" and having a chunk of the
|
||
deck on the examining table.
|
||
|
||
dr crusher: "Geordi, this woman has deck plating where her legs should be."
|
||
Geordi: "Golly Doctor, you're right."
|
||
|
||
'Computer, save program and discontinue.'
|
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|
||
136/150: Survey says: Ennnh!
|
||
Name: Lt. Cmdr. Data #20 @2907
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 14:50:04 1991
|
||
From: Mc Co. Online [209-538-8454]
|
||
|
||
RE: Just for you...
|
||
|
||
|
||
Mystery is not the name of Data's cat. That was in Metamorphosis, which is
|
||
not an official source (but a damn good book nonetheless). Mystery was sort
|
||
of a stray cat...who went wherever it pleased.
|
||
|
||
Spot, Spock, or whatever the hell Data called it (sounded like "Spot" to me)
|
||
is his cat's official name.
|
||
|
||
For all intents and purposes, Spot would be funny `cause that's a typical
|
||
dog's name.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Computer, disengage soapbox.
|
||
|
||
(Wow two posts in one day. And it's only my first day back!)
|
||
|
||
-Lieutenant Commander DataDataDataDataData
|
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|
||
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||
|
||
|
||
|
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|
||
137/150: Oh yeah. One more thing... [ Columbo title ]
|
||
Name: Lt. Cmdr. Data #20 @2907
|
||
Date: Fri Jun 14 14:55:31 1991
|
||
From: Mc Co. Online [209-538-8454]
|
||
|
||
|
||
Remember Sarek, or rather, the actor who played him (in ST:TNG)?
|
||
|
||
The same actor was the Romulan commander in the original conflict with
|
||
NCC-1701<no letter>
|
||
|
||
Mark Lenard.
|
||
|
||
Now did someone say something about Romulans and Vulcans looking alike? I
|
||
guess he hasn't retired his pointy ears yet, eh?
|
||
-Lieutenant Commander DataDataDataDataData
|
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|
||
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|
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|
||
|
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|
||
138/150: The chances of an "in space collision" is minimal at best:
|
||
Name: Mr. Dickens #15 @5415
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 17 23:58:59 1991
|
||
From: The Guild [504-282-8270]
|
||
|
||
RE: space travel
|
||
|
||
While objects in space may appear to be "jammed up" specks of dust, the
|
||
vastness of space between them is unbelievable. Two entire galaxies can collide
|
||
and pass through each other without a single star colliding with another. The
|
||
probability of a spaceship travelling at incredible speeds through a galaxy
|
||
colliding with another object is a reality, but of such incredible odds that a
|
||
trip on a modern jet stands a much higher probability of crashing.
|
||
|
||
[BOZ]
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
139/150: ST TOS Names and Star Dates....
|
||
Name: Shooter #251 @2457
|
||
Date: Sun Jun 16 16:19:25 1991
|
||
From: Knight Court [214-289-8524]
|
||
|
||
|
||
''COMPLETE STAR TREK TV EPISODE LIST''
|
||
|
||
AIR STAR PROD
|
||
DATE DATE NUMB
|
||
|
||
First Season
|
||
|
||
0 The Cage Pilot unknown 1
|
||
1 The Man Trap 9/08/66 1513.1 6
|
||
2 Charlie X 9/15/66 1533.6 8
|
||
3 Where No Man Has Gone Before 9/22/66 1312.4 2
|
||
4 The Naked Time 9/29/66 1704.2 7
|
||
5 The Enemy Within 10/06/66 1672.1 5
|
||
6 Mudd's Women 10/13/66 1329.1 4
|
||
7 What Are Little Girls Made Of 10/20/66 2712.4 10
|
||
8 Miri 10/27/66 2713.5 12
|
||
9 Dagger Of The Mind 11/03/66 2715.1 11
|
||
10 The Corbomite Maneuver 11/10/66 1512.2 3
|
||
11 The Menagerie Pt 1 11/17/66 3012.4 16
|
||
12 The Menagerie Pt 2 11/24/66 16
|
||
13 The Conscience Of The King 12/08/66 2817.6 13
|
||
14 Balance Of Terror 12/15/66 1709.1 9
|
||
15 Shore Leave 12/29/66 3025.3 17
|
||
16 The Galileo Seven 1/05/67 2821.5 14
|
||
17 The Squire Of Gothos 1/12/67 2124.5 18
|
||
18 Arena 1/19/67 3045.6 19
|
||
19 Tomorrow Is Yesterday 1/26/67 3113.2 21
|
||
20 Court-Martial 2/02/67 2947.3 15
|
||
21 The Return Of The Archons 2/09/67 3156.2 22
|
||
22 Space Seed 2/16/67 3141.9 24
|
||
23 A Taste Of Armageddon 2/23/67 3192.1 23
|
||
24 This Side Of Paradise 3/02/67 3417.3 25
|
||
25 The Devil In The Dark 3/09/67 3196.1 26
|
||
26 Errand Of Mercy 3/16/67 3198.4 27
|
||
27 The Alternative Factor 3/23/67 3087.6 20
|
||
28 The City On The Edge Of Forever 4/06/67 3134.0 28
|
||
29 Operation - Annihilate 4/13/67 3287.2 29
|
||
|
||
Second Season
|
||
|
||
30 Amok Time 9/15/67 3372.7 34
|
||
31 Who Mourns For Adonais 9/22/67 3468.1 33
|
||
32 The Changeling 9/22/67 3451.9 37
|
||
33 Mirror, Mirror 10/06/67 Unknown 39
|
||
34 The Apple 10/13/67 3715.0 38
|
||
35 The Doomsday Machine 10/20/67 4202.9 35
|
||
36 Catspaw 10/27/67 3018.2 30
|
||
37 I, Mudd 11/03/67 4513.3 41
|
||
38 Metamorphosis 11/10/67 3219.4 31
|
||
39 Journey To Babel 11/17/67 3842.3 44
|
||
40 Friday's Child 12/01/67 3497.2 32
|
||
41 The Deadly Years 12/08/67 3478.2 40
|
||
42 Obsession 12/15/67 3619.2 42
|
||
43 Wolf In The Fold 12/22/67 3614.9 36
|
||
|
||
AIR STAR PROD
|
||
DATE DATE NUMB
|
||
|
||
44 The Trouble With Tribbles 12/29/67 4523.3 42
|
||
45 The Gamesters Of Triskelion 1/05/68 3211.7 46
|
||
46 A Piece Of The Action 1/12/68 4598.0 49
|
||
47 The Immunity Syndrome 1/19/68 4307.1 48
|
||
48 A Private Little War 2/02/68 4211.4 45
|
||
49 Return To Tomorrow 2/09/68 4768.3 51
|
||
50 Patterns Of Force 2/16/68 2534.0 52
|
||
51 By Any Other Name 2/23/68 4657.5 50
|
||
52 The Omega Glory 3/01/68 unknown 54
|
||
53 The Ultimate Computer 3/08/68 4729.4 53
|
||
54 Bread And Circuses 3/15/68 4040.7 43
|
||
55 Assignment: Earth 3/29/68 unknown 55
|
||
|
||
Third Season
|
||
|
||
56 Spock's Brain 9/20/68 5431.4 61
|
||
57 The Enterprise Incident 9/27/68 5031.3 59
|
||
58 The Paradise Syndrome 10/04/68 4842.6 58
|
||
59 And The Children Shall Lead 10/11/68 5027.3 60
|
||
60 Is There No Truth In Beauty? 10/18/68 5630.7 62
|
||
61 Spectre Of The Gun 10/25/68 4385.3 56
|
||
62 Day Of The Dove 11/01/68 unknown 66
|
||
63 For The World Is Hollow 11/08/68 5476.3 65
|
||
And I Have Touched The Sky
|
||
64 The Tholian Web 11/15/68 5693.4 64
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65 Plato's Stepchildren 11/22/68 5784.0 67
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66 Wink Of An Eye 11/29/68 5710.5 68
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67 The Empath 12/06/68 5121.0 63
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68 Elaan Of Troyius 12/20/68 4372.5 57
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69 Whom Gods Destroy 1/03/69 5718.3 71
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70 Let That Be Your Last Battlefield 1/10/69 5730.2 70
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71 The Mark Of Gideon 1/17/69 5423.4 72
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72 That Which Survives 1/24/69 unknown 69
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73 The Lights Of Zetar 1/31/69 5725.3 73
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74 Requim For Methuselah 2/14/69 5843.7 76
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75 The Way To Eden 2/21/69 5832.3 75
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76 The Cloudminders 2/28/69 5818.4 74
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77 The Savage Curtain 3/07/69 5906.4 77
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78 All Our Yesterdays 3/14/69 5943.7 78
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79 Turnabout Intruder 6/03/69 5298.5 79
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AIR STAR PROD
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DATE DATE NUMB
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Animation
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1. Yesteryear 9/15/73 5373.4 3A
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2. One Of Our Planets Is Missing 9/22/73 5371.3 7A
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3. The Lorelei Signal 9/29/73 5483.7 6A
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4. More Tribbles, More Troubles 10/06/73 5392.4 1A
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5. The Survivor 10/13/73 5143.3 5A
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6. The Infinite Vulcan 10/20/73 5554.4 2A
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7. The Magicks Of Megas-Tu 10/27/73 1254.4 9A
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8. Once Upon A Planet 11/03/73 5591.2 14A
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9. Mudd's Passion 11/10/73 4978.5 8A
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10. The Terratin Incident 11/17/73 5577.3 15A
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11. Time Trap 11/24/73 5267.2 10A
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12. The Ambergris Element 12/01/73 5499.9 13A
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13. Slaver Weapon 12/15/73 4187.3 11A
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14. Beyond The Farthest Star 12/22/73 5521.3 4A
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15. The Eye Of The Beholder 1/05/74 5501.2 16A
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16. Jihad 1/13/74 5683.1 12A
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17. The Pirates Of Orion 9/07/74 6334.1 19A
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18. Bem 9/14/74 7403.6 17A
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19. Practical Joker 9/21/74 3183.3 20A
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20. Albatross 9/28/74 5275.6 18A
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21. How Sharper Than A Serpent's Tooth 10/05/74 6063.4 21A
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22. The Counter-Clock Incident 10/12/74 6770.3 22A
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Movies
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1. Star Trek - The Motion Picture 12/07/79
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2. Star Trek II - The Wrath Of Kahn 6/04/82
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3. Star Trek III - The Search For Spock 6/01/84
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4. Star Trek IV - The Voyage Home 11/23/86
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5. Start Trek V - The Final Frontier 6/09/89
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Reference: "The Star Trek Compendium" by Allan Asherman
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140/150: Transporters
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Name: Screaming Eagle #70 @5650
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Date: Sun Jun 16 21:28:17 1991
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From: Sex World BBS [516-488-8368]
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That theory about transporting a photon torpedo onto an enemy ship could not
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work because, when a ship's shields are up(almost always during battle),
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transport between the ships is impossible(I won't even BEGIN to cite example
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of this happening in ST). However, if you read the novels, in the TOS Novel
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"The Kobayashi Maru", Scotty tells about his Kobayashi Maru test where, when
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all of his weapons were destroyed he transported photon torpedos and
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antimatter bottles right next to the enemy ships and caused an explosion. In
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case you really wanna know...It was later stated that that strategy wouldn't
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work in real life. It was theoretically correct and that's why the Simulator
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Computers accepted it, however, when Scotty was debriefed afterwards, the
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reviewing admiral opens an encyclopedia(paper encyclopedia in ST times?) and
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points out "The Aberdeen Incident
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" in which Montogomery Scott, an Aberden youth tried an experiment of placing
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photon torpedoes in proximity of homemade shields, similar to Klingon ones,
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and an explosion DID NOT ENSUE. The scientists were never sure why(according
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to the novel) but it just didn't work... Hope I answered your question...
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Screaming Eagle
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141/150: in 'Devil's Due'
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Name: Dragon #37 @6500
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Date: 06/17/91 at 11:18 am <MDT>
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From: The Pentagon [605-348-4216]
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[Msg Status] No reply needed.
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__________________________________________________________________
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How long can the shields remain up without draining them or the power
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source out? Could the Enterprise have put the shields up to prevent "the
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devil" from transporting aboard the ship? Could Q get on the ship even if
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shields were up? Maybe another entity? As I said in the last post.. "You
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can't actually get through the shields" but maybe you can... if you have
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massive ammounts of power.
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Dragon
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|
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Origin: -[The Pentagon]- WWIVnet @6500 USR Dual Standard
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(605) 348-4216 Rapid City, SD. SNARFable
|
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142/150: dismal sales
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Name: O.D.W.E. #14 @6500
|
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Date: 06/17/91 at 3:59 pm <MDT>
|
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From: The Pentagon [605-348-4216]
|
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|
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[ Reply to ] A side nOTE about Ertl/AMT's Trek models...
|
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[Msg Status] No reply needed.
|
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__________________________________________________________________
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I like what they did between movies...release a kit for Trek II, III, and
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IV. The only difference in models was: One was the original refit NCC-1701.
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The next was NCC-1701-A(The only thing they changed was the DECAL!!! No
|
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wonder sales were so dismal!!! All you'd need to do is call up Ertl(they give
|
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a toll free number) and request the decal sheet with the 'A' on it...and you
|
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have a new model.
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I think they also released a kit of the NCC-1701-A with the Galileo
|
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shuttlecraft(from Trek V)...
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|
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|
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Origin: -[The Pentagon]- WWIVnet @6500 USR Dual Standard
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(605) 348-4216 Rapid City, SD. SNARFable
|
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|
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|
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143/150: character analogies: TOS/TNG
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Name: O.D.W.E. #14 @6500
|
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Date: 06/18/91 at 12:17 am <MDT>
|
||
From: The Pentagon [605-348-4216]
|
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|
||
[ Reply to ] Spock vs. Data
|
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[Msg Status] No reply needed.
|
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__________________________________________________________________
|
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|
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The closest analogy that I have seen so far was when Dr. Pulaski replaced
|
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Dr. Crusher as Chief Surgeon. She was similar to McCoy in that she was strong
|
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willed. She even had an extreme dislike of the transporter similar to Doctor
|
||
McCoy. The thing I liked about her was that she did not get along with Data.
|
||
She was constantly challenging Data's assertation that he was "alive". This
|
||
was similar to the Spock/McCoy arguments, but not a carbon-copy of their
|
||
arguments. This added some spice to the show, and I was sorry when whiney
|
||
(oh, save my son, Jean-Luc) Dr. Crusher returned...
|
||
|
||
Origin: -[The Pentagon]- WWIVnet @6500 USR Dual Standard
|
||
(605) 348-4216 Rapid City, SD. SNARFable
|
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|
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|
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|
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|
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144/150: Good Point!
|
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Name: Bonnie Graas #67 @7708
|
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Date: Mon Jun 17 18:23:17 1991
|
||
From: Morning Star BBS [707-263-6612]
|
||
|
||
RE: Get a life.....
|
||
|
||
I have been waiting for someone to take this stand. Look into the Science
|
||
Fiction writing of the 30's. To think they actually envisioned lap top
|
||
computers in every home, wall sized television, test tube babies. The people
|
||
of their time emphatically denied the ability to actually have these visions
|
||
realized.
|
||
|
||
Just because we do not know how to create these "Star Trek" visions now, does
|
||
not outlaw their future creation any more than the Science Fiction of past
|
||
years.
|
||
|
||
As the theory was put forward in past times that Man is a product of evolution
|
||
from lesser creatures, only "Arrogant Man" assumes that our present stage of
|
||
evolution is the ultimate. It is more appropriate to say that Man is
|
||
continuing to evolve and the future holds limitless accomplishments.
|
||
|
||
Have some faith people, believe in the future of Man.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
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145/150: TOS:
|
||
Name: Bonnie Graas #67 @7708
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 17 18:30:18 1991
|
||
From: Morning Star BBS [707-263-6612]
|
||
|
||
RE: Question:
|
||
|
||
There were 79 aired episodes of the original Star Trek Series. They are
|
||
available on cassette tape from CBS home video. I have a set. If you would
|
||
like to information about their purchase (The collector's edition) please
|
||
E-Mail me an address and I will send the brochures to you.
|
||
|
||
There is also the release of the original pilot (the one turned down by the
|
||
networks) called "The Cage". Parts of this original were used in the episode
|
||
of "The Menangerie" (two parter).
|
||
|
||
It is interesting, if you get a copy of "The Cage" it contains the parts used
|
||
in "The Menagerie" in color (the original pilot was in black and white). It
|
||
is an interesting comparisson to see the original change from black to white
|
||
as the original pilot was cut and these parts computer colored for the use in
|
||
the series. The effect of added color is truly amazing.
|
||
|
||
Hope this was of some help. If you were a local to Lake County you could come
|
||
into the bar I own and view them. I run them constantly in my bar. They have
|
||
quite a following there.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
146/150: New Voyages:
|
||
Name: Bonnie Graas #67 @7708
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 17 18:34:39 1991
|
||
From: Morning Star BBS [707-263-6612]
|
||
|
||
RE: Visit to a Wierd Planet
|
||
|
||
This is one of my favorite books. It has a wonderful story in it that always
|
||
thought would make a great ST film. It is about Kirk being "mind ripped" by
|
||
the Klingons and transported back in time to present day, where he has become
|
||
an inmate of an insane asylum and Spock's undying efforts to find him while
|
||
all others lose hope.
|
||
|
||
Anyone read that one?
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
147/150: Transporters: Two or one?
|
||
Name: Roger Long #54 @5914
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 10 19:53:40 1991
|
||
From: TC-CUBED [509-588-6822]
|
||
|
||
RE: Well,
|
||
|
||
One reason I've heard for sometimes using two transporters is that the energy
|
||
usage is less if they share the load than if one is doing all the work. I
|
||
think the book "Memory Prime" is where I heard this.
|
||
|
||
One theory I have is that the receiving transporter provides a constant
|
||
reference to transport to, whereas using a single transporter requires it to
|
||
search for a suitable place to lock on to. "The Menagerie" and "Star Trek II:
|
||
The Wrath of Khan" both expressed concerns about reappearing inside rock.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
148/150: The unknown captain
|
||
Name: Roger Long #54 @5914
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 10 19:58:41 1991
|
||
From: TC-CUBED [509-588-6822]
|
||
|
||
The "Enterprise" has always been the jewel of Starfleet, and the best captains
|
||
have been assigned to it. But, if the captain assigned to NCC-1701-B was not
|
||
of the same calibre we've seen (it would have to be "no where close"),
|
||
Starfleet might want to put that behind them.
|
||
|
||
On the other hand, "Star Trek VI" is supposed to be the final movie, so we
|
||
might see the baton passed from Captain Kirk of 1701-A to a new captain of
|
||
1701-B. (Anyone heard a rumor as to what happened to 1701-A after it was
|
||
discovered to be such a dog?)
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
149/150: "The Making of Star Trek"
|
||
Name: Roger Long #54 @5914
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 10 20:12:03 1991
|
||
From: TC-CUBED [509-588-6822]
|
||
|
||
RE: was that canon??
|
||
|
||
Bought that a while back. In it are several memos, amongst them the names of
|
||
the people who have captained the Enterprise. Also in it are the accepted
|
||
starship names, as well as a series of memos about Vulcan names (lists of
|
||
five-letter combinations that begin with S and end in K, I think) and how to
|
||
pronounce them. (Glad that G.R. decided on a little variety for Vulcan names,
|
||
in keeping with I.D.I.C.)
|
||
|
||
The book has been re-printed, perhaps with new information. I consider it
|
||
canon because it is a documentary-type book about how "Star Trek" was created.
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
150/150: Question about Wil Weaton...
|
||
Name: Delsa Andixon #40 @6463
|
||
Date: Mon Jun 17 08:16:12 1991
|
||
From: Columbus Skyline [614-267-6453]
|
||
|
||
Recently I've been hearing stranger and stranger reasons for Wil Weaton not
|
||
being on the show anymore. Is there anyone out there that knows the ACTUAL
|
||
truth of the matter?
|
||
|
||
Delsa
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
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