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Path: lutzifer!mob
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From: mob@lutzifer.UUCP (John Pecaro)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: you all are k-rad
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Message-ID: <740@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 13 Feb 91 07:01:12 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 18
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What the hell is this crap, you fuckin' lamers are bragging about how fuckin'
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happy you are cuz supposedly all the lamers are gone with the death of video
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and all those other k-rad nui's.. BULL-FUCKIN'-SHIT!
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Dr. VMS goes on these elite trips.. He knows nothing!
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Then there's these DNIC traders.. Com'on. Lamers personified!
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And the idiot who can't hack a fuckin' 908 out dial.. FUCK YOU
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3110908000xx.. 100 possibilities, start hacking
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you worthless piece of shit.
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from all the members at MoB - the ELIGHT way to be.
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We were the makers of the 713 CBX outdial.
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More coming soon.
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Path: lutzifer!mob
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From: mob@lutzifer.UUCP (John Pecaro)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: you are all k-rad
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Message-ID: <741@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 13 Feb 91 07:06:02 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 26
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LAME LAME LAME!!!!!
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What is with you all?
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Boasting that TCHH, QSD, and all the other chats are 'kewl' beacuse video and
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all the other lame nui's died.. That's bull!
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And Dr. VMS goes on a big elite trip... BOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Com'on.. You lamers are trading fuckin' DNIC's.. HELLA LAME!
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And the idiot that needs the 908 outdial, hack it yourself, lazy sack!
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3110908000xx... 100 possibilities. EASY
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From all the members of MoB..
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the makers of the 713 CBX's that died.
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More coming soon.
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MoB - the ELIGHT way to be
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Path: lutzifer!alien
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From: alien@lutzifer.UUCP (Notus Yurase)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: k-rad
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Message-ID: <742@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 13 Feb 91 14:42:22 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 16
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This is such a great comedy club. Dr.VMS!!!, bahahahaha
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nice handle, why dont you try something you know about?
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Ohhhh, let's swap some DNIC lists (more ha's)...
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MOD- Mexixcans of Doom... 'nuff said
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Help me with od's... fuck you, you want the world on a plate?
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bitnet... you'll only confuse yourself further.
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NUI's... why do you really need it, you just call here and sit in chat's
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for 5 or 6 hrs a day. Is that elite?
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It's not really the fact that all the lamers can get here now
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it's the fact that everyone is actually putting up with thier
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blatent stupidity...
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AL|EN
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Path: lutzifer!ronnie
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From: ronnie@lutzifer.UUCP (Ronnie Kilmer)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: shut up
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Message-ID: <743@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 13 Feb 91 14:57:54 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 13
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actualy..its not the people that want to learn and ask questions that
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sit there and give the chat systems a bad rep..its people like you `TOM'
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and a few others that sit there and rag on every1 and make them feel like
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shit(which it dont effect me cause i dont claim to be elite anyway)..
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so why dont you shut up and give every1 a break..stop raggin on MOD..their
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account is no longer on here so what good is it gonna do anyway?
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and whoever was asking for that Outdial..there is no area code like that in
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the US..oh wel..thats all i gotta say..
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lateron
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ronnie - Not /<-/Zad /Elyte
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Not Lame
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Just a hacker..
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Path: lutzifer!doctord
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From: doctord@lutzifer.UUCP (Ben Smith)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: you
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Message-ID: <746@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 13 Feb 91 19:11:31 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 10
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Hi Mob, you seem to have a rather large attitude problem, as is evident
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from your outbreaks of verbal diarrhea on this system. Do you regular
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ly go for psychiatric check-ups, or perhaps even they can't help you.
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Why don't you just act cool with people instead of putting them down
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at every opportunity ?
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Fools like you give real hackers a bad name.
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Grow up
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Dr. Devious
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Path: lutzifer!doctord
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From: doctord@lutzifer.UUCP (Ben Smith)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: you
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Message-ID: <747@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 13 Feb 91 19:15:26 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 10
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I really give up with all you lot. When are you gonna grow up and start
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treating other people like human beings instead of shit ?
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In particular I am referring to mob, who seems to have an attitude problem
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as large as my phone bill ! And also, stop these stupid MoD vs. LoD
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and 'you lot are all lamers' type messages.
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It really pisses me off, not to mention a lot of other people..
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Lecture over.
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Dr D.
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Path: lutzifer!zaphod
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From: zaphod@lutzifer.UUCP (Sven Echternach)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: dnics foreign x25 nets
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Message-ID: <748@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 13 Feb 91 20:51:31 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 17
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Hi Doodes!
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It sounds quite strange to me to change 'DNICs'! Why not even
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change area codes? I got a nice one: (415)..Seems to b in SFO!
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You find DNIC Lists in almost every x25 related publication...
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I got a c00l NUA in USA, with DNICS and the actual costs/Network
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snailmail address and so on...
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Most countries also got their own TymNet Node, which you might call
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to reach this country...
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Anyway:
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Anyone who wants this NUA just drop me a mail and say what u got to swap...
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I look for globals/Whole USA with not so big delays for d/l (ZModem).
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Does anybody know a direct dialup ( (617) or x25) for ai.mit.edu?
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c ya
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zaphod
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Path: lutzifer!mob
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From: mob@lutzifer.UUCP (John Pecaro)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: Oooh
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Message-ID: <749@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 14 Feb 91 00:22:19 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 15
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Hmmm Ok, Dr. Devious.. ur oh so right.. i'm sorry the scene isn't tailored
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to your needs.. Although I did find the bit about giving hackers a bad name
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quite Humorous.. I mean hell, we're playin with your ego now eh?. MoB is
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nothing more than a group of people that don't fuckin give a shit about reps,
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hacking status, and or how eeeeelite you are.. If some1 was heckling you then
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it's probably because you were going off on how elite or kewl u were or we
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were just hella baked at the time. sooo basically..
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Who knows?
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Who Cares?
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We sure don't..
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we're MoB and we do believe there is hope
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in the dnic traders!
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Path: lutzifer!blammo
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From: blammo@lutzifer.UUCP (Fred Parker)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: mob
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Message-ID: <751@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 14 Feb 91 04:04:27 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 6
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Look "mob," you have a serious attitude disorder. You've posted 3 times.
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Not one of those 3 said anything useful. You're wasting space babbling about
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how mighty you are. No one's seen anything...and no one expects to, either.
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You don't have to come here to impress anyone...but you sure as hell better
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not come here to rag on everyone. People like you give everyone a bad rep.
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Path: lutzifer!hugh
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From: hugh@lutzifer.UUCP (Hugh Denoncourt)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: assortedshit
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Message-ID: <754@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 14 Feb 91 18:10:02 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 14
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Well, DrVms, your posting of how to get the entire DNIC list... Those are words
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The act of getting them and finding it, that is an action... A very useless
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action... DNIC lists, trading DNICs etcetera is done with little or no
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difficulty. Even scanning the DNICs exploring whats in each network requires
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little skill although is much more useful than the obtaining of DNICs...
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You are far from being a hero... As a matter of fact there aren't really any
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heroes in this world... Welcome to the information age where knowledge passes
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mainly through individuals and small groups of people and not through large
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groups of people. In other words, those complaining that people ragging on
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you are wasting your time are kidding yourself. Getting things accomplished
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does not exist on this system. It will always be a meeting ground for all
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who call themselves hackers. Nothing more than that. Post accounts, etc, if
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you like but I think you are the ones wasting your time.
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And ruining it for the rest of us...
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Path: lutzifer!drvms
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From: drvms@lutzifer.UUCP (John Fisher)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: hugh.
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Message-ID: <755@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 14 Feb 91 19:26:28 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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I never said 'I'm a hero.That post was a joke (you know humor?)..if you
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proclaim yourself to be a 'hacker', why don't you post and indicate that
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you know at least part of what your ego indicates...
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Path: lutzifer!hstreet
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From: hstreet@lutzifer.UUCP (Julian Hensley)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: ?!?!
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Message-ID: <756@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 15 Feb 91 00:59:00 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Hmmm , heheh all this makes no sense.. First of all anyone who brings up
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the fact that , 'ur ruining it for all of us', 'your making us look lame'
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'your giving a bad name to hackers' ect,ect,ect.. You are probably in it
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for the wrong reasons.. Probably cuz you have such a lame social life and/or
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such little influance in the real world you look for a subsitute here or
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in the hacking world.. Like it's some grand social event.. I mean who the
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hell gives a shit if MoB starts raggin on you in non-threating ways, or if
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someone goes off on you for trading DNICs (cuz its damn funny).. that's the
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small picture.. Hacking has nothing to do with bragging about how much you
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know, it's just if you get out there and do it.. It's not a grand group
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effort.. It's indvidual or done in small groups..
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God, the whining about MoB was funny... Like it would kill you to
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change the channel or do you actually feel threatened that they might
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change the image of hackers? I hear alot of people say.. The scene is getting
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Soooooo lame now.. ? If you keep your shit away form k0de vmb posting kids
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and just talk with people you trust it will always remain the same. So
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what if QSD turned into a haven for GAY hot chatters.. then stay away or
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find somewhere else to go.. just learn and if someone says prove urself..
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thats just fuckin wasting ur time.
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-fugazi
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Path: lutzifer!inasty
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From: inasty@lutzifer.UUCP (Doug All)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: BS
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Message-ID: <757@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 15 Feb 91 01:22:35 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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I agree with all this shouting back and forth about who is better or
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whatever is stupid. Grow up and get a life. I'm sick of reading line after
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line of nonsence. Post something useful or don't post at all!
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-Inasty-
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Path: lutzifer!doctord
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From: doctord@lutzifer.UUCP (Ben Smith)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: hmm
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Message-ID: <758@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 15 Feb 91 19:22:00 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 13
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Hi, I also don't give a shit about elitenss, or who is better at hackin
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than whom, or any of that kind of crap. It just annoys me that there are some
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people who have nothing better to do that slag each other off all the time.
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Sorry If u took offence when I said u give hackers a bad name, but the way
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some people on this sytem are carrying on, It might well do !
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Also, I never complained that this system never catered for my needs, or
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anyone elses for that matter. We've all got to make the best out of
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what we've got...
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Bye for now..
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Doc Devious
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/s
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Path: lutzifer!hugh
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From: hugh@lutzifer.UUCP (Hugh Denoncourt)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: Well
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Message-ID: <759@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 15 Feb 91 23:37:46 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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fhughazilosophy will prevail. Basically DrVMS I in general do not need nor do
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I care to prove myself. If I were to prove myself I dont think I would make
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attempts at providing the world with DNIC's but hey you can go about doing
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your noble chivalric acts any way you like. Chivalry is not my thing. Code of
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ethics which are anti-individualistic turn me off. I usually just read this
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shit and say nothing but when the complaining came I thought that nothing is
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more annoying than complaints. Inasty says stop this shit if you dont have
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anything useful to say don't say anything. Well his post was pretty useless.
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It says less than our posts that go back and forth say. But to me the hacker
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attitude is important enough to be discussed in a general subboard. If you
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want to talk about various systems,networks, and other intellectual things
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go call a BBS but don't expect anything but bullshit, babbling, and
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philosophical discussions here. Attempts at proving yourself only shows your
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insecurity.
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Path: lutzifer!snarkboy
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From: snarkboy@lutzifer.UUCP (Mike Danford)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: MIT Terminus
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Message-ID: <762@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 16 Feb 91 07:25:46 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Hmm... a whole lot of idiots around here, eh? Too much fighting and
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ragging, etc. Oh well.
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Someone asked for a way to get into MIT's systems. You can dial in at #
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258-7111 (AC 617, right?) That's put you at the Terminus... is that
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what you wanted? I hope so.
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I also am looking for CIS accounts and perhaps a GEnie. Mail me.
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I can trade a bunch.
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Thanks.
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"Write for me, and only me, a really extra special story...."
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Snark!
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Path: lutzifer!oolon
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From: oolon@lutzifer.UUCP (Robert McMillian)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: MoB
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Message-ID: <763@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 16 Feb 91 11:25:42 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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would mob happen to have any relation to mod? quite odd, one dies,
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and another one pops up. both have much in common. i would suspect them
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to have the same members as well. in any case, i fail to see the use of
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such groups. possibly, the only redeeming value they do hae is a release
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of tension on others, by the members. still, that is not good..
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mob members. i think i'll be bold, and say i know who is in mob,
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and that i have their phone numbers, addresses, and credit cards. haha..
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that was a mistake, should have kept that in. now they have ammo. oh,
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dread no the day someone calls me 'colluphucker'. i'm goign to shrivel
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and die.
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hmm, maybe i'm joining up with this clique, this message has no point
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whatsoever. i'll leave it at that...
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Path: lutzifer!mob
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From: mob@lutzifer.UUCP (John Pecaro)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: Oolonfuck
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Message-ID: <765@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 16 Feb 91 23:27:19 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Man, small fucking 12-year old pre-pubescent hairless piece of
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white-trash you are Oolon.. What a fuckin geek.. If you want to call us
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names or heckle us and say we're worthless, or whatever that's fine but
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I can't stand k0de-kid lamer threats from lame fucks like yourself..
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d000d, I have MoBs phone#s, I know who's in MoB! gee, you're k00l. Well
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after our little conversation Roger it seems you know about a whole nothing..
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4 all its worth we are not connected in any way to Lod/Mod and Mod still exists
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in every way. So Oolon, think twice before you come up with anymore loser
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cbi threats or i'll take a trip north and pimpslap you around a bit..
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at least think of an original way to take someone out... d00d, i got ur CCZ!
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lamelamelame..
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Supreme Pup [MoB]
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Article 37 : R)ead N)ext P)rev E)xit : r
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Path: lutzifer!oolon
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From: oolon@lutzifer.UUCP (Robert McMillian)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: Idle Threats
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Message-ID: <766@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 17 Feb 91 00:26:19 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 11
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hmm.. good enough for me. now, if you are so supremely powerful,
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mr. supreme pup, why don't you head on over to my house if you know my address?
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make a little sense, eh? 'yeah, i have your address somewhere here..',
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'ok, what is it?' 'oh, i'll call you back with it later'. ok, when am i
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going to get my phone call? havne't heard from you for quite some time.
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there is a difference between threats and humor, and obviously,
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to some people, it's quite a thin line. i was merely joking around, and
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i did make that quite clear. hmm, so, if we're going to have a little
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brawl.. let's stop the bullshit..
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Article 38 : R)ead N)ext P)rev E)xit : r
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Path: lutzifer!mob
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From: mob@lutzifer.UUCP (John Pecaro)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: Oolon is a c0ck suker
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Message-ID: <767@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 17 Feb 91 00:52:12 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 12
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Hehehehehe....
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Nuclear Jello of MoB here....
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Me an Supreme Pup called up 'ole Oolon earlier and gee, the man who claims
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he has all our info knows NOTHING! Then he says he's tuff..
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lightness. You need it. Drop the lameness.
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Nuclear Jello of the ELIGHT >>MoB<<
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Stay cool.. Smoke buds..
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Article 39 : R)ead N)ext P)rev E)xit : r
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Path: lutzifer!oolon
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From: oolon@lutzifer.UUCP (Robert McMillian)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: haha
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Message-ID: <787@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 17 Feb 91 07:05:07 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 14
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'oolon knows nothing' well, whatever.. two ways you can interpret the
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things that i say. 1) literally, or 2) with half a sense of humor.
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somebody chose wrong.. and still htinks they know all.
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speaking of knowing all, whatever did happen with you, jello? no
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address i assume. cna office give you a bad time? now look, i don't see
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how you can sit there, saying you're the all knowing ,and everyone else is
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an idtoit, when you can't even supply a little info.
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hmm.. so, am i officially the first to start a 'war' with mob? this
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is great.. ahaha, 1 party wants to have a war, and the other wants to crack
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a joke.. a bit twisted, but doesn't it resemble the middle east situation
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a little too closely?
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Article 40 : R)ead N)ext P)rev E)xit : r
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Path: lutzifer!mob
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From: mob@lutzifer.UUCP (John Pecaro)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: a war
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Message-ID: <790@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 17 Feb 91 17:53:59 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 3
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n feel it by now... If you publicly apologize everything will be ohk..
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R a d i o a c t i v e *-* 4 S k i n
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>> MoB <<
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Article 43 : R)ead N)ext P)rev E)xit : r
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Path: lutzifer!avogadro
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From: avogadro@lutzifer.UUCP (Marc Bates)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: Doc Devious
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Message-ID: <791@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 17 Feb 91 19:43:04 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 13
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Here are the direct Tymnet Access numbers for the UK.. including Scotland and
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Ireland, etc.
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Belfast is (232) 234467
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Birmingham is (21) 632 6636
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Bristol is (272) 255 392
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Cambridge is (223) 845 860
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Edinburgh is (31) 313 2172
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Leeds is (532) 341838
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The two for London are:
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(71) 489 8571 and
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(81) 566 7260
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See ya, Hap Hazard.
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Article 44 : R)ead N)ext P)rev E)xit : r
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Path: lutzifer!vmem
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From: vmem@lutzifer.UUCP (George Jackson)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: war
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Message-ID: <792@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 17 Feb 91 20:36:23 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 5
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the fuckin message got cut, shit! well in short ooloncollafucker ur a loser
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and only way to stop MoB from destroying you, is publicly apologizing...
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Radioactive ForeSkin
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>>MoB<<
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/
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Article 45 : R)ead N)ext P)rev E)xit : r
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Path: lutzifer!doctord
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From: doctord@lutzifer.UUCP (Ben Smith)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: war
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Message-ID: <793@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 17 Feb 91 23:59:24 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 6
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Hey oolon, don't let this bunch of childish halfwits push you around!
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Take direct action!
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B`Fn
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Dr. Devious
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Article 46 : R)ead N)ext P)rev E)xit : r
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Path: lutzifer!mob
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From: mob@lutzifer.UUCP (John Pecaro)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: hahahahahahahh
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Message-ID: <797@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 18 Feb 91 01:50:59 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 10
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Oolon's claim is that his 'threat' is a joke. That is just made up
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bullshit. He wanted to boost his image and he UNSUCCESSFULLY TRIED to make
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the members of MoB shit bricks. Nobody will ever have my info. Most of MoB's
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info is secret. But not too hard to obtain. Although, don't try anything.
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Oolon is gonna shut up.. He's scared. Getting his address is very easy, due to
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the fact we have his number...
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Article 49 : R)ead N)ext P)rev E)xit : r
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Path: lutzifer!gypsy
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From: gypsy@lutzifer.UUCP (John Mikels)
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Newsgroups: bullet.general
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Subject: sides...
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Message-ID: <800@lutzifer.UUCP>
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Date: 18 Feb 91 05:22:15 GMT
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Distribution: bullet
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Organization: Lutz Pelikan Systemberatung, Hamburg, West-Germany
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Lines: 18
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ok, I'm not on anyones side or anything... I don't have a preference either
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way - it's just a 'fight' between some people... However, I do have one
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observation/question... You'll notice how the mob members (Radioactive
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Foreskin, Nuclear Jello, etc...) all use the same account ('mob') - which is
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fine... Now here's my question/observation:
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Radioactive ForeSkin was on (with the mob account) and posted a message that
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got cut off... Then, a few messages later, he (R. F.) noticed that it was
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cut off and corrected himself - explaining that it got cut off... Which
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is fine, EXCEPT: The second post by Radioactive Foreskin was post from the
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account 'vmem'... Did Virtual Memory make a mistake and accidentally
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reveal his identity? Is V. Memory really Radioactive Foreskin? Just
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wondering is all... I'm not on any side - just trying to watch what's
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going on... Virtual Memory is/was not in MOD, right? Therefore, if Vmem
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IS Radioactive FOreskin (for mob) - then that would mean that MOB and MOD are
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definately NOT the same group (which many thought, at least for a while...)
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Anyways - whatever... just wanted to bring that 'error?' to everyone's
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attention...
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