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001=Usr:0 Null User 07/08/87 00:40 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19
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1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2$************************* INSTALLED: 2 MAR 88 ****************************
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3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator
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4$**************************************************************************
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5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately
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8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general
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9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the
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10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all
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11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the
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12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data
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13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out
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14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering
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15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to
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16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up.
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17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18$**************************************************************************
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19$
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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 12/04/84 19:49 Msg:1232 Call:8311 Lines:7
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20 The Red Shift: The cornerstone of the New Astronomy. Everyone is
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21 familiar with the fact that a train, in aproaching, makes less
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22 and less noise until, at the moment of actually passing, it makes
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23 no noise at all. Once it has passed it gets louder and louder, until
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24 when it's a dot on the horizon the noise is deafening. This is the
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25 well-known Doppler Effect. The red shift is simply analogous to this.
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26 ****************************************************************************
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003=Usr:336 NOAM RANN 12/04/84 21:29 Msg:1233 Call:8315 Lines:5
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27 DOES THIS MEAN I'M THE FIRST? +<=-)
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28 Well, I've got a question that has bugged me for some time and I can't quite
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29 seem to get it out of my head. can anyone help? The question is this;
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30 WHY?
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31 +<=-) (-=>+
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004=Usr:7 Leonard Erickson 12/04/84 22:15 Msg:1234 Call:8318 Lines:2
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32@Uh, mike? Check the date headers.... and the call log. The system apparently
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33@went ape when it hit the 29th!
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005=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/04/84 22:36 Msg:1235 Call:8319 Lines:5
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34 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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35
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36 because you are . . . everything.
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37
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38 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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006=Usr:237 barefoot john 12/05/84 02:45 Msg:1236 Call:8322 Lines:25
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39
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40 { <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< /* capt'n barefoot */ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
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41 As the schooner 'Humorous Truth' rocked gently to and fro in the
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42 eddie(backwater) of Suck Creek, the capt'n speculated on future
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43 manifestations of the 'Apparent Linear Sequential Reality'. Why,
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44 I'll just have a peek at the upstream flow of events, he mused,
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45 picking up the 'Long Glass'. With this trans-optical instrument
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46 he could see the better part of forever. SuperConductors flashed
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47 across the displayed image. Yes, this technology on the cutting
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48 edge of science has potential equivalent to the invention of the
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49 transistor. Possible future effects from SuperConductor devices,
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50 although extremely significant, may pale in the shadow of work
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51 being done in a more ethereal realm.
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52
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53 Recent developments is the science of social phonemes, leading
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54 to paradigms for modeling social change, offer possibilities for
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55 influencing our lives in ways we can hardly imagine. What about
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56 a theory that can quantize a 'social virus' and postulate future
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57 effects? Information Power and related pursuits will reshape the
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58 very fabric of our lives. New paradigms of thought open the door
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59 to infinite possibilities. "Discrepancy is the door to Discovery"
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60 L'homme: The medium is in the mail. #include <message>
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61 That ole' Rascal Petrov is back in action, perhaps the
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62 'Caribbean Connection' should be alerted!
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63 { <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< /* capt'n barefoot */ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
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007=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 12/05/84 16:44 Msg:1237 Call:8331 Lines:6
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64 thIs Is wOrld wAtch thrEE>>>>>>>>>>>>>03-0?-88>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>16:4?>
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65 Hi I'm just poking my head in at the inn to see wasup....
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66 It's been a nice day spent with a special friend...
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67 I will not take responsiboility for my actions here. I've had too much cafine
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68 today...
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69 Noam, Why not? (original, huh?
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008=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 12/05/84 17:46 Msg:1238 Call:8332 Lines:1
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70 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
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009=Usr:378 alan olsen 12/05/84 18:35 Msg:1239 Call:8333 Lines:6
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71 welcome to the great vanishing bbs. (The last time i was here
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72 there was 700+ lines.)
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73 When questioning reality, just remember:
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74 "Reality? What reality? No such thing...."
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75 ==================raven maniac==========================
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76
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010=Usr:336 NOAM RANN 12/05/84 19:39 Msg:1240 Call:8335 Lines:2
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77 +<=-) NOAM (-=>+
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78 WORLD WATCH THREE: TO MUCH ESPRESSO?
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011=Usr:336 NOAM RANN 12/05/84 19:45 Msg:1241 Call:8336 Lines:8
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79 I THOUGHT OF 'WHY NOT ' AND CAME UP WITH 'BECAUSE' WICH
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80 ISN'T HELPFUL.
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81 RAVEN MANIAC: HAVE YOU TRYED THE 'DB' COMMAND TO SEE WAT YOU'VE MISSED
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82 THE LAST 200+ LINES?
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83 ANYONE: HOWCOME WHENEVER I DELETE A CHARACTOR IT GETS REPRINTED (OR ECHOED)
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84 BACK SOME TIMES, OTHER TIMES IT DOESN'T [THIS I PREFER]
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85
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86 +<=-) NOAM (-=>+
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012=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 03/03/88 23:02 Msg:1242 Call:8340 Lines:12
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87 **********************************************************************
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88 It depends on whether you use "delete" or "backspace" as to what happens.
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89 BWMS still supports teleprinters which means that the delete key still
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90 gives the proper response for a printer which is to echo the character
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91 being deleted (it is kind of difficult to erase a character once it has
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92 been printed). The "backspace" is the proper key to use for video editing
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93 it does the proper erase. Watch out for "cursor control" keys, these put
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94 out weird codes of which no two systems support the same way. BWMS does
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95 not support screen editing. Backspacing or deleteing is the extent of the
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96 inline editing available. If you find you made a mistake in a previous
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97 line use change to fix it, or use the replace command to reenter the line.
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98 ******************************* CM ***************************************
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013=Usr:336 NOAM RANN 03/04/88 15:54 Msg:1243 Call:8353 Lines:2
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99 +<=-)I USE THE DELete KEY ALL THE TIME. ho well, I GUESS IT'S ANOTHE MYSTORY,
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100 JUST LIKE 'WHY?' (-=>+
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014=Usr:289 Audie Huber 03/04/88 22:56 Msg:1244 Call:8362 Lines:11
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101 +-+-+-+-+-++-+-++-+-+-+-++--+--++-+--++--++---+++----+++++-++++--++++++++++++++
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102 I have seen many people on this BBS, or computer system if you perfer,
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103 asking if they exist, an interesting theory in the response goes something
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104 like this: Existance itself implies an equal and opposite non-existance,
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105 thus rendering the saying "I think, therefore I am." a moot point at best
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106 For we cannot comprehend if non-existing entities think or not. And the
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107 whole matter of death is conjecture, so whats the point.
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108 Corwin
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109@^C
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110@C^
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111@^c
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015=Usr:336 NOAM RANN 03/05/88 13:53 Msg:1245 Call:8376 Lines:6
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112 i think
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113 ithink i am
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114 therefor i am...
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115 ...i think
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116
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117 NOAM THE UNORIGINAL
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120@
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121@
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017=Usr:335 Corwin I 03/05/88 14:24 Msg:1247 Call:8378 Lines:7
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122 ---<-@ ---<-@ ---<-@ ---<-@ ---<-@
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123 I've been an observer on this board for some time, just watching the happenings
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124 and have been interested in this "am i real?" topic. just letting you know I'm
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125 around.
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126 CORWIN of Amber
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127 ---<-@ ---<-@ ---<-@ ---<-@ ---<-@
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128 P.S. I didn't do 102-108
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018=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 03/05/88 15:34 Msg:1248 Call:8380 Lines:12
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129 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>03-05-88>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>15:40>
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130 NOAM- Actually it was a 'Black And White' at la Patisery <SP!> that did it...
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131 Also, wasn't that the Moody Blues you quoted?
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132
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133 Gad, looks like we've got two Corwins here. I guess the Border War is over
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134 so now there'll be Name War. Could we call it The Battle Of The Silver Roses?
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135 Really people, why fight? Carma is an awful thing to #*! with. Revenge is
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136 never neccesary when the Cosmic Law is gunning for do-badders...
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137
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138 Note: MIDGE THE ROO, WHERE ARE YOU?
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139
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140 15:46>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
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019=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/05/88 18:20 Msg:1249 Call:8382 Lines:1
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141 MIDGE THE WHO?
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020=Usr:188 Justin Klein 03/05/88 19:59 Msg:1250 Call:8388 Lines:19
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142 |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|- J |-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
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143 Now I KNOW I exist! I have no doubts! And I was the one who started all this!
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144 -|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-| Jody -|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
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145 =========================Justin the Blue==========================
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146 Hello everybody!!!!! Typing now on a computer system that is soom to
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147 be mine: a Xerox 820-I w/2 8inch diskdrives which runs on CP/M and I get
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148 a modem with all this. Yes, it may be old(not that old!) and I kinda li
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149 CP/M 'cause I can write my own programs and is possible to get software
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150 for cheap and easy: it's a real computer (note that my last computer w
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151 a T/S 1000)and it's all mine!!!!(or will be)
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152
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153 And besides, since the terminal equipt disappeared at International House
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154 of Midgard, there`s been no way to communicate w/bbs`s. Now I have my very own
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155 and since moves to other towns are indicated in the future, at least I`ll be
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156 able to keep in touch
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157
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158 Until then, SunDial BBS Radio KSUN will be off the air for temporary...
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159 Luv u all and see u in about 1 week (if bad winds prevail)
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160 ============================Justin the Blue========================
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021=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 03/05/88 22:25 Msg:1251 Call:8398 Lines:14
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161 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>03-05-88>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>22:30>
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162 JUSTIN- A T/S 1000?! EGAD! My friend had one that crashed if you breathed on
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163 it. I didn't kno they bothered to make periferrals for it...
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164 NOAM- Not The Who, The Roo, as in kanga.
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165 JODY- Are you sure....
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166
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167 now you know that you are real,
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168 scatter good seeds in the fields,
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169 each day has it's own way,
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170 turn look down life's hallways;
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171 doorways, to lead you there...
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172
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173 Or something like that...
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174 22:41>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
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022=Usr:234 ALAN ZEHNTBAUER 03/06/88 12:40 Msg:1252 Call:8412 Lines:10
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175 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-SEEK=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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176 This must not continue to go unnoticed! Trains do not get louder as
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177 they near horizons. This is the virtually unkown "Relppod" effect. The
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178 author has become confused with an ultra violet shift and we sheep skim
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179 by without registering a peep (or a Baa as the metaphor requires). Some
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180 continue to wonder why instead of challenging this assault upon our
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181 sacred perceptions. Well I for one will no longer standby mutely. or is
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182 that stand by mutely? I think I need a little help from them literates.
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183 And typists...
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184 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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023=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 03/06/88 13:30 Msg:1253 Call:8414 Lines:15
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185 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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186 I am here. I have just suffered a major blow to my lower abdomenen<sp> because
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187 she told my mommy that I used bad words on the computer, and my dearest mommy
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188 grounded me from my computer <damn bitch> I will seek revenge.. haahaahaa!
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189 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~KEV C>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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190
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191
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192 My computer is screwed. Some lady told my mom what I did, there!
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193
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194
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195 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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196 KEV C>
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197 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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198
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199
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024=Usr:382 doug macdonald 03/06/88 15:00 Msg:1254 Call:8416 Lines:1
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200 boy does this bbs need growing up!! how's about a real topic like GIRLS !!!!!!!
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025=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/06/88 18:24 Msg:1255 Call:8421 Lines:1
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201 A PHOENIX WAS HERE!
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026=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 03/06/88 19:31 Msg:1256 Call:8422 Lines:25
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202 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>03-06-88>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>19:37>
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203 The evening had been most interesting, like old times. I was with my two
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204 closest friends, Chris and John. Back in the days when my memories were formed
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205 Chris and John were dating. The relationship ended abruptly and by who was
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206 established.
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207 I had remaned friends with the both of them in the years that passed. Chris
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208 would always ask what John was doing, I guess she could never let go of what
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209 they had. John saw the pictures I had taken of her, I'm an amature
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210 photographer, and said he'd like to see her again.
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211 By some strange acciden, I got a Friday off. We arranged to meet at the
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212 resteraunt where she worked and would go out when se got off. We went to
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213 some coffee shoppe in Portland and talked. John, as usual, did most of the
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214 talking. John talked about relationships after the one they shared and how one
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215 girl he went out with wasn't on the same level as he was causing it to be nearl
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216 impossable to get close to her.
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217 "It's so hard," he said, "To love someone and never beable to get close to
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218 them. The pain is so powerful.."
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219 The whole time he talked, Chris's eveys were locked into mine. It was known
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220 that I was in love with her the entire time they went out. But the topic was
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221 generally left untalked about, unfaced like an alcoholic relative. Her eyes
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222 ripped into me. I couldn't help but ask myself: did she love me then? Did we
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223 go through over two years of hell because we were both to weak to do a damned
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224 thing about it?
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225
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226 20:04>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
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027=Usr:384 Vaughn Hughes 03/07/88 13:52 Msg:1257 Call:8442 Lines:24
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227 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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228 Well, you've all done it now! I'm here!! heh heh heh
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229
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230 Anubis
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231 Lord of the Grave
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232 Ruler of the Underworld
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233 Chronicler of the Book of the Dead
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234 Embalmer of mummies
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235 Weigher of souls
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236 King of the Dead
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237 Escorter of spirits
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238 ___
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239 / _ \
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240 | / \ | ehold!
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241 \ \_/ /
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242 \ / TH NH!
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243 _ __
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244 |__ __|
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245 | |
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246 |_|
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247
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248 The ANKH is that which *is* all life.
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249
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250 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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028=Usr:385 James Wilde 03/07/88 15:23 Msg:1258 Call:8443 Lines:4
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251 Hello folks, I just applyed to this system. I hope to see more of this
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252 "philosophical" stuff it's fun to think that there are other people out
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253 there who think too. See ya.
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254
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029=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 03/07/88 17:44 Msg:1259 Call:8445 Lines:1
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255 Let's not over do it, Anubis....
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030=Usr:387 DERRICK WILLHITE 03/08/88 01:00 Msg:1260 Call:8461 Lines:5
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256 C
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257 C
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258 ^C
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259
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260
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031=Usr:388 Evan Coats 03/08/88 16:22 Msg:1261 Call:8477 Lines:7
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261 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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262 World Watch Three--- Gee, you sound mighty familiar. I think we have met in Wil
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263 sonville at a certain theatre...
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264
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265
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266 You probably will calll on the computer there next time you work. We will see
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267 if you guess who I am.
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032=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 03/08/88 19:12 Msg:1262 Call:8485 Lines:3
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268 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>03-08-88>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>19:20>
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269 Hi Evan...
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270 19:21>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
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033=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/08/88 20:39 Msg:1263 Call:8489 Lines:3
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271 So, we've got a Phoenix and Anubis, what oter Egyptians will walk on by?
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272 I'm looking for a CHEAP termina. I'll setle for darn near anything...
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273 Poenix
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034=Usr:23 Grann 03/09/88 09:54 Msg:1264 Call:8521 Lines:4
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274 ()()()()()
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275 How 'bout a VIC-20 and a model 1600 modem? "Can you say 22 columns? I knew
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276 you could." :-)
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277 ()()()()()
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035=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/09/88 17:34 Msg:1265 Call:8535 Lines:3
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278 "TWENTY-TWO COLUMNS?! Ah, I mean, Twenty-two columns!" How much?
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279 Mr. Polymorph
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280 wwiii reporter
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036=Usr:7 Leonard Erickson 03/09/88 19:33 Msg:1266 Call:8538 Lines:5
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281 how about a 32x16 uppercase only display? It needs a tv for the display, but it
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282 has a built-in 300 bps modem... (and supports some rather odd graphics in color
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283 (CIS G4 and RLE if that means anything))
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284 Make me an offer!
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285 ______________________________Leonard__________________________________________
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037=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/09/88 20:04 Msg:1267 Call:8540 Lines:55
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286 8-} "Am I on?" [=-> "Not yet, thirty seconds."
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287 >|-} "Ready global?" |-/ "Ready! Que logo." =|-/ "Check"
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288 >:-] "Ok, give me live feed. Studio, stand-by."
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289 +<=-) "This one's for keeps..." 8-} "Shut up."
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290 [=-> "Ready in 10......5,4,3,set logo, now."
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291 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>03-09-88>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>20:10>
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292 8-} "This is Phoenix Polymorph on World Watch Three. Tonight I want to
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293 discuss a problem that ha plagued man since the dawn of laundry; the missing
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294 sock.
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295 "Even in the days when the village women would take the laundry down to
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296 the river to beat it on a rock, an average of one sock per load would be lost.
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297 At first carelessness was blambed. But, as that was denied by the woman-folk,
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298 whitch-craft was held responsable for the problem. However; after the burning,
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299 hanging and nailing to trees of roughly half the town's people, the problem was
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300 still there, general carelessness was again blamed.
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301 "now, with modern times come modern problems. It is beleved by some
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302 that a device is built into each washer or dryer that destroyes one sock per
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303 load. Evidence supports the dryer as the colour of the lint is often that of
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304 the missing sock.
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305
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306 !=-+ "'This is just just an unfortunate coincidense.' eported a spokes
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307 person for Maytag.8-} yet some people think that there is mor. They think
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308 that there is a connection between both the home apliance and garment indus-
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309 tries. They beleve the Mob is somehow connected.
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310
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311 |=-) "There is little evedense to support our theories," reported a man who
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312 wished to remain un-named, "But isn't covering things up what they do best?"
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313
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314 8-} "'THEY', of course, refers to the mob"
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315 |=-) "The only thing we have to go on is the TUPPERWEAR-BIRDSEYE scandle
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316 twelve years ago."
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317
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318 8-} "As you recall a contaminating agent was introduced to the lining of
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319 TUPPERWEAR bowls causing food to spoil in three to five weeks, causing people t
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320 o say 'screw left-overs, let's buy T.V. diners.' The reasoning behind this
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321 plot? There is more profit in T.V. diners than in TUPPERWEAR bowls.
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322 "But now, back to the sock sucking polyester panic of missing socks.
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323 You may be asking 'What can we, the public, do?' The answer is nothing."
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324
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325 [:-( "Our research labs tryed many solutions, but we still lost 1.72 socks
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326 aload. We even tryed pinning socks together, But they would both disapear,
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327 leaving a lone safty-pin behind."
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328
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329 8-} "Representatives for Amana have flatly refused to comment and we have
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330 not been able to contact Whirlpool.
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331 "As private consummer grupes investigate, all we can do is sit and wat
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332 e.
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333 "Phoenix Pollymorph, World Watch Three.
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334
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335 20:40>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
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336
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337 The Phoenix Polymorph Show has been brought to you by The Bagwana Corporation.
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338 When you think dayly living, think Bagwana, makers of "Tastee Dinner-time
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339 Frozen Steaks and doggie treats"
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340
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038=Usr:52 sandy mcgrath 03/09/88 23:11 Msg:1268 Call:8548 Lines:3
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341 (((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))
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342 Still alive and kicking (well at least trying to)
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343 (((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))((( Ripple )))(((*)))
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039=Usr:272 Talos 03/10/88 00:41 Msg:1269 Call:8550 Lines:22
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344 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
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345 Anubis - The Long Winded :)
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346
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347 Nice story on the socks there. Enjoyed that one I did.
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348
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349 Last Week To Come And See...
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350
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351 TINTYPES
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352
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353 A musical celebration of America
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354 (1890 to 1920). Featurin turn of the
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355 century music by Scott Joplin, George
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356 Cohan and others, also Vaudville acts
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357 and more. Performed at the PCC Sylvania
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358 Little Theatre at 8 pm on Thur, Fri,
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359 and Sat. nights, doors open at 7:30.
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360 For more information and reservations
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361 Call the Box office from 12 noon to
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362 5 pm at 293-4949. See you there!
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363
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364 Talos
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365 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
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040=Usr:393 MIKE NORTON 03/10/88 16:36 Msg:1270 Call:8565 Lines:11
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366 ------------------------------------ OB ----------------------------
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367 I am proud t that I, the infamous whomever, hfound a
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368 reasonable (I think) solutin to the missing socks problem.
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369 First, take all the socks that you currently own (including the ones on
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370 your feet) and throw them all in the garbage. Now, withdraw $15 from
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371 a local ATM, run down to K-Mart and buy 3 six-packs of white socks, all
|
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372 of the same brand. From now , when you wash your socks, you will have
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373 at most one unmated sock, since they all look identical. Granted this isn't
|
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374 a particularly elegant solutin, but it's worked for me quite sometime now.
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375 Of course, I have to go through the above procedure about every 6 months.
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376 ------------------------ Original Border (or is that Boarder?) ------
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041=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 03/10/88 18:27 Msg:1271 Call:8568 Lines:8
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377 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>03-10-88>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>18:37>
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378 Our reporter Phoenix Polymorph is trying to find out why the socks are disapear
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379 ing. He shuld be following up in a few days.
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380 We, at the Banzai Institute <Wilsonville Branch Office> have tryed the above
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381 operation and found it the bet way to deal with the situation. However; it is
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382 quite a drag running out to K-Mart every six months.
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383 More as it comes in. Shine on...
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384 18:39>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
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042=Usr:391 jim barp 03/11/88 06:26 Msg:1272 Call:8576 Lines:9
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385@hOW did this bbs get the name backwater???????????????????
|
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386 ..>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quill>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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387 What is backwater? Is that the place that fish grow into monsters
|
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388 in the stream? Maybe backwater is what we use to call backwash
|
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389 when persons shared the same glass of water. Backwater to me
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390 is a place where things just kind of float in. You look at it
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||
391 that way and you see that this just might be a great name for a
|
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392 bbs. Things just kind of float in and float out again. Well,
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393 I guess I'll float out now. gurgle gurgle...........the quill............
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043=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 03/11/88 21:49 Msg:1273 Call:8600 Lines:9
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394 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~KEv C.~~~~~~~~~
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395 I am here.
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396 I am not stupid
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397 I AM alittleweird.
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398 I hate snivelers.
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399 I like women.
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400 I hate ....
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401
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402
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044=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 03/12/88 00:58 Msg:1274 Call:8607 Lines:1
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403 HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT SNIVELY WOMEN?
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045=Usr:391 jim barp 03/12/88 07:35 Msg:1275 Call:8616 Lines:12
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404 ************************************quill**********************************
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405 BACKWATER IS THE PLACE WHERE SOCKS DISAPPEAR FROM THE WASHER. I OWN
|
||
406 A G.E. WASHER. I HAVE NEVER HAD THE SOCKS DISAPPEAR FROM ITS
|
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407 INNER TUB. HOWEVER, ABOUT A MONTH AGO THE WHOLE THING QUIT
|
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408 SPINNING. I CALLED ALL AROUND TOWN EVEN BACK TO THE EAST COAST
|
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409 THEY TELL ME THE CLUTCH IS BAD. DID YOU KNOW THAT YOUR WASHER
|
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410 HAS A CLUTCH? YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME? JUST CALL YOUR LOCAL
|
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411 APPLIANCE REPAIR SHOP THEY'LL CONFIRM IT. YOUR WASHER HAS A
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412 CLUTCH--I'LL BET YOUR SOCKS ON IT. SO GO OUT AND PUT THAT
|
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413 WASHER IN GEAR AND TAKE ER FOR A SPIN. YOURS TRULY,
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414 *(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*(*QUILL*(*(***(*(*(*(*(**(*(**(*((*(*(*(*(*(*(*(**
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415@LINE 400
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046=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/12/88 12:33 Msg:1276 Call:8624 Lines:3
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416 This Is Phoenix Polymorph. New breakthroghs have been made in the science worl
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||
417 d due to the missing sock mystory. Film at eleven wwiii u1
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418 ^c
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047=Usr:397 dragon lady 03/12/88 21:25 Msg:1277 Call:8648 Lines:32
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419 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- 12 Mar 88 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=-
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420 To L'homme sans Parity:
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421 It is presumpteous for me to address you, after having read only
|
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422 one message in your conversation with Barefoot John, but otherwise I
|
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423 will be troubled and restless, as I have been this last hour or so.
|
||
424 My response to you "flows and sparkles like crystal mountain water"--
|
||
425 in my mind, that is. In reality, the keyboard looms like so many tiers
|
||
426 of Eygpt's famed pyramids, and my fingers fumble up and back, wondering
|
||
427 how I will convey my words. It seems necessary to generate a lot of dust
|
||
428 (verbage) to prove that a lot of effort (albeit just fretting and thinking)
|
||
429 went into climbing the pyramid, because in this medium, sincerity is hard
|
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430 to convey. Aaargh, why am I trying?? You said "Life sometimes seems to
|
||
431 say that the only sure thing is that the fulfillment of desire will never
|
||
432 be obtained." Forgive me for taking that out of context, because how you
|
||
433 defined "desire" was good, taking it out of the realm of vulgarity and
|
||
434 touching on purer motives. Perhaps, a desire for justice or seeking for
|
||
435 the untainted joy of a very young child? Its the longing of the "true
|
||
436 believer" in your voice that touched me, the suggestion of your ideals
|
||
437 which have not yet been snuffed, that made me try to answer. But my
|
||
438 words are those of a simpleton; I would rather quote a far greater author.
|
||
439 "And he proceeded to call out in my ears with a loud voice, saying:
|
||
440 'HAVE those giving their attention to the city come near, each one with
|
||
441 his weapon in his hand for bringing ruin!' And look! there were six
|
||
442 men coming from the direction of the upper gate that faces to the north,
|
||
443 each one with his weapon for smashing in his hand; and there was one man
|
||
444 in among them clothed with linen, with a secretary's inkhorn at his hips,
|
||
445 and they proceeded to come in and stand beside the copper altar.
|
||
446 ...and he began calling out to the man that was clothed with the
|
||
447 linen, at whose hips there was the secretary's inkhorn. And Jehovah went
|
||
448 on to say to him: "Pass through the midst of the city, through the midst
|
||
449 of Jerusalem, and you must put a mark on the foreheads of the men that
|
||
450 are sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that are being
|
||
048=Usr:397 dragon lady 03/12/88 22:07 Msg:1278 Call:8649 Lines:20
|
||
451 done in the midst of it."--Ezekiel 9:1-4
|
||
452 You may find very little resemblance between this scripture and your
|
||
453 words expressing a wistful persistance in your search. I liken you to one
|
||
454 of the "men that are sighing and groaning" because "the land is filled
|
||
455 with bloodshed and the city is full of crookedness." (verse 9) Again, I
|
||
456 am presumpteous. But if you search for such "old-fashioned" values as
|
||
457 wisdom, justice and unselfish love:
|
||
458 "Jehovah is giving support to all who are falling,
|
||
459 And is raising up all who are bowed down.
|
||
460 To you the eyes of all look hopefully,
|
||
461 And you are giving them their food in its season.
|
||
462 You are opening your hand
|
||
463 And satisfying the desire of every living thing.
|
||
464 Jehovah is righteous in all his ways
|
||
465 And loyal in all his works.
|
||
466 Jehovah is near to all those calling upon him,
|
||
467 To all those who call upon him in trueness." --Psalms 145:14-18
|
||
468
|
||
469 L'homme, don't listen to me. Listen to Jehovah's Witnesses.
|
||
470 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- d -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=-
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049=Usr:237 barefoot john 03/13/88 01:34 Msg:1279 Call:8654 Lines:18
|
||
471 ^~~~~`~~~~~~`~~~~~~~`~~~~~~~`~~~~~~~`~~~~~~~`~~~~~~~`~~~~~~~`~~~~~~~`~~~~~^
|
||
472 Well, this old tuna schooner might look like a piece of *hit from the
|
||
473 outside, but things aren't always what they seem. Just ask that foolhearty
|
||
474 band of malicious meddlers. Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer
|
||
475 though.
|
||
476 "Hay Skip, de ting make picture talk to you, say come quick need help."
|
||
477 "OK, bend some sail on this old girl while I try to get the world to stop
|
||
478 shifting around. I'll drop you off at lee cove. It's time to pay back a few
|
||
479 debts, maybe with a little interest as well."
|
||
480 A sly smile suggested the sweet taste of just-desserts, served with
|
||
481 continental flaire. Only the "Frenchman" could fully appreciate the exquisite
|
||
482 subtlety of such culinary delights. Since desire for freedom had overcome the
|
||
483 desire for power, he'd been lolling around the tropics in semi-retirement. It
|
||
484 was high time for a little excitement. A somewhat secure fortune had made him
|
||
485 "NOT FOR HIRE", but adventure with an element of danger thrown in would be just
|
||
486 right. This one was on the house.
|
||
487 ~bwanna j~
|
||
488 ^~~`~~~~~^~~~^~~~`~`^~~~~^~~^^~~ ~~~^^~~~^~~~^~~`~~~~^~`~~~~~^~~`~~~~^
|
||
050=Usr:237 barefoot john 03/13/88 07:24 Msg:1280 Call:8657 Lines:30
|
||
489 { <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< /* capt'n barefoot */ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
|
||
490 Don't you just love it? When one wishes to be emphatic and really
|
||
491 lay down a few heavy notes, first comes the disclaimer. "Now you
|
||
492 correct me if I'm wrong, but..." or "Now it's not me saying this,
|
||
493 you understand, I speak for a higher authority . . ." To really
|
||
494 appreciate the perfection of this technique you should live down
|
||
495 here in 'DIXIE, this is where it was invented. Don't get me wrong
|
||
496 now, I don't mean any disrespect you understand. Why it's down-
|
||
497 right entertaining. :-) "Just think a continental link", his mind
|
||
498 skipped merrily across the keyboard.
|
||
499
|
||
500 L'homme: Ah yes, the backwater swirls us all back into the same
|
||
501 pool again. As you can see, the meaning came to me in a flash.
|
||
502 There I was reading sideways, (never mind why) suddenly cured
|
||
503 of a severe case of opto-rectitus.:-)
|
||
504 Noting the correlation: capt'n barefoot with barefoot john, I'd
|
||
505 say the other player in this exchange is a backwater irregular.
|
||
506 Welcome aboard 'd' (you were reading on weren't you) your quite
|
||
507 elegant style is appreciated.
|
||
508
|
||
509 Perhaps one of the more important tests of a discipline or dogma
|
||
510 is to ask if it is 'Self Transcending'. if the answer is NO, it
|
||
511 should become suspect as a circular trap.
|
||
512
|
||
513 Let us not forget the implication of Goedel's theorem (pardon me
|
||
514 if I paraphrase poorly) 'No system is self justifying, one must
|
||
515 make a meta statement outside the system.' In this Meta statement
|
||
516 is contained the essential nature of the system.
|
||
517 { <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< /* capt'n barefoot */ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
|
||
518
|
||
051=Usr:237 barefoot john 03/13/88 07:46 Msg:1281 Call:8659 Lines:2
|
||
519 Spell-Check: Godel's
|
||
520 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
052=Usr:23 Grann 03/13/88 09:20 Msg:1282 Call:8660 Lines:5
|
||
521 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
||
522 Hmmm. Has BWMS been transported a few years into the past? The capt'n
|
||
523 and d on the same disk?
|
||
524 Now all we need is piper. I wonder if he's still lurking about?
|
||
525 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch & Grann ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
||
053=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 03/13/88 11:45 Msg:1283 Call:8664 Lines:5
|
||
526 Oh, but where would Pam be, wasn't she and the Rowan tree lost back in the
|
||
527 gensis of the new system? And there were many many others. Some of whom
|
||
528 were lost on the chip adventure.
|
||
529
|
||
530
|
||
054=Usr:329 mark Holdahl 03/13/88 18:09 Msg:1284 Call:8670 Lines:5
|
||
531 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>03-13-88>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>18:22>
|
||
532 In hie effort to find out why socks disapear from washing machines, Phoenix
|
||
533 Polymorph as, himself, vanished. Phoenix if you're out there, get back to the
|
||
534 istitute, you need to return your terminal.
|
||
535 18:24>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wwiii
|
||
055=Usr:52 sandy mcgrath 03/13/88 19:17 Msg:1285 Call:8672 Lines:1
|
||
536 (((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))(((*)))((( Ripple )))(((*)))
|
||
056=Usr:399 Jane Ury 03/13/88 20:13 Msg:1286 Call:8678 Lines:12
|
||
537 Are there any BBS which are devoted to social concerns?
|
||
538 I'm new at this and I would like to find a system which
|
||
539 operates like a rapid-response network for things like
|
||
540 the anti-nuclear movement, environmental issues,
|
||
541 women's issues, etc. Can anyone help me?
|
||
542
|
||
543 Cervenka
|
||
544 P.S. As for the Lost Sock Triangle, they disappear
|
||
545 INTO THE MACHINE! Honest. They wrap themselves aroound
|
||
546 the machine's innards and reappear in ten years
|
||
547 or whenever you get the machine serviced, whichever comes
|
||
548 first.
|
||
057=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 03/13/88 22:22 Msg:1287 Call:8688 Lines:23
|
||
549 *******************************************************************
|
||
550 I've seen Piper on the system occasionally. Pam I have neither
|
||
551 seen nor talked to for about eight or nine months. I'm afraid that
|
||
552 she has moved on to other (and hopefully better) things.
|
||
553 Of course, knowing her she could be on the system in the guise
|
||
554 of another. But that would mean a rather long distance call,
|
||
555 so I doubt that such is the case.
|
||
556 Hey, even Ripple is here (see line 536). Welcome!
|
||
557 To person above asking for a rapid response network bbs.
|
||
558 That depends on whether you are into local politics or something
|
||
559 a bit larger. If you want local, several of the local bbs's deal
|
||
560 in that, including this one. Blue Parrot is another. If you're
|
||
561 into something that gives access and feedback from people outside
|
||
562 the local area, you need to get on the Fido net or Usenet.
|
||
563 Usenet is available on the Unix systems.
|
||
564
|
||
565 It's been a rather interesting year here with BW struggling to
|
||
566 gain its new identity (and me struggling along with it).
|
||
567 Hard to believe that come May it will be one year old on the
|
||
568 new system, and almost six years old total. I wonder if it is
|
||
569 worth a celebration of some sort. Of course in keeping with
|
||
570 BW's proper form it can't be a pizza party.
|
||
571 ************************** CISTOP MIKEY **************************
|
||
058=Usr:397 dragon lady 03/14/88 13:25 Msg:1288 Call:8709 Lines:32
|
||
572 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- 14 Mar 88 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=-
|
||
573 You are most gracious, Capt'n Barefoot--in appreciating my style,
|
||
574 that is. In every other respect, I dub you a Backwater irreverent!
|
||
575 As a Backwater irregular, I could easily dodge your reply, but this
|
||
576 time I think I'll have some fun with it.
|
||
577 Allow me to define the issue, as I understand it. The three of
|
||
578 us are involved in a search for truth. Your approach (and perhaps
|
||
579 L'homme's) is philosophical, mine is built on an acceptance of belief
|
||
580 in God. The word 'philosophy' is derived from Greek roots that mean
|
||
581 "love of wisdom." Leaving out of account belief in God, it tries to
|
||
582 give people a unified view of the universe and endeavors to make them
|
||
583 critical thinkers. It employs chiefly speculative means rather than
|
||
584 observation in a search for truth.
|
||
585 But what is the origin of human philosophies? They come from
|
||
586 people who have LIMITATIONS. The Bible informs us: "It does not
|
||
587 belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." (Jeremiah 10:23)
|
||
588 History testifies that trying to ignore that limitation has not
|
||
589 produced good results. On one occasion, "Jehovah proceeded to answer
|
||
590 Job out of the windstorm and say: 'Who is this that is obscuring
|
||
591 counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up your loins, please, like
|
||
592 an able-bodied man, and let me question you, and you inform me.
|
||
593 Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell me, if
|
||
594 you do know understanding.'" (Job 38:1-4)
|
||
595 Humans by nature have limitations. Additionally, their experi-
|
||
596 ence in life is relatively brief and is usually confined to one
|
||
597 culture or one environment. The knowledge they possess is thus
|
||
598 restricted, and everything is interconnected to such an extent that
|
||
599 they constantly find aspects that they had not adequately considered.
|
||
600 Any philosophy that they originate will reflect these limitations.
|
||
601 Modesty means recognizing one's limitations; thus the reason
|
||
602 for a "disclaimer." I do not wish to misunderstand you, nor do I
|
||
603 shy from giving credit to the Higher Authority.
|
||
059=Usr:397 dragon lady 03/14/88 14:13 Msg:1289 Call:8710 Lines:16
|
||
604 Now, for "a few heavy notes." How can any of us acquire true
|
||
605 knowledge and wisdom? I contend that: "The fear of Jehovah is the
|
||
606 beginning of wisdom. All those doing them have a good insight."
|
||
607 (Psalms 111:10)
|
||
608 If the universe were not the product of an intelligent Creator
|
||
609 but only of some blind, irrational force, then no unified view of
|
||
610 the universe would be possible, would it? Nothing that would qualify
|
||
611 as wisdom could result from a study of something that was itself
|
||
612 irrational, could it? Those who attempt to understand the universe
|
||
613 or life itself, while endeavoring to leave God and his purpose out
|
||
614 of account, meet with constant frustration. They misinterpret what
|
||
615 they learn and misuse facts that they glean.
|
||
616 Leaving out of account belief in God destroys the key to
|
||
617 accurate knowledge and makes impossible any truly consistent
|
||
618 framework of thought.
|
||
619 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- d -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=-
|
||
060=Usr:245 Doug King 03/14/88 21:43 Msg:1290 Call:8724 Lines:4
|
||
620 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
621 Words to live by from Slug: You can pick your friends and you can pick your
|
||
622 nose, but you can't pick your friends nose.
|
||
623 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bartender SLUG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
061=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 03/14/88 23:45 Msg:1291 Call:8727 Lines:3
|
||
624 *************************************************************************
|
||
625 Slug: That depends on how well you know your friend.... ;-)
|
||
626 ***************************** CM ******************************************
|
||
062=Usr:47 John Dilks 03/15/88 00:00 Msg:1292 Call:8728 Lines:31
|
||
627 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
||
628 To 'd' --
|
||
629 Excuse me if I say so, but you have not presented much of an argument.
|
||
630 You use your belief in God as your proof for the existance of God.
|
||
631 That in itself proves nothing other than that you believe in God.
|
||
632 That is nothing more than a self serving statement. You are usinng your
|
||
633 belief to prove your belief.
|
||
634 Another item you state is that an organized structure is not possible
|
||
635 without an intellegence behind it and then use that to go on to prove
|
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636 your point, yet you hve not proved your initial point of requiring an
|
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637 intellegence to have an organised structure. Once again you are presuming
|
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638 your belief as the basis for your arweement.
|
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639 In my opinion, the belief of the existance or non-existance of God is not
|
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640 something that can be proved or disproved through accepted logic convention.
|
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641 Everytime I have heard the argument it has always started with the presumption
|
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642 that God exists and then goes on to use that presumption to prove the
|
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643 existance of God. A circular proof is not usually accepted as a logical
|
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644 proof of anything.
|
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645 Usually the only way that a proof can be stated is to state the proof
|
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646 raset on constructs outside the structure you are attempting to prove.
|
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647 Of course with typical religous dogma this is not possible because the
|
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648 basic concept is that not only can we not step outside the concept of
|
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649 God to determin the structure, but we are not even allowed to consider
|
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650 approaching the domain of God. Thus they have managed to close their
|
||
651 universe and enforce a cyclic proof.
|
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652 Hmmm reminds me of the old Star Trek episode "For the World is Hollow,
|
||
653 and I Have Touchud the Sky." When you deny the search for knowledge outside
|
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654 the frame of reference it is easy to prove that your frame of existance
|
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655 is the only form there is. Ignorance is not bliss.
|
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656 -- John Dilks
|
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657 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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063=Usr:400 ALICE COOPER ! 03/15/88 02:50 Msg:1293 Call:8729 Lines:17
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658@***************************************** I FEAST ON LOTS OF BLOOD!!! I
|
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659@VIOLATE ALL RULES AND EVEN YOUR KID
|
||
660@SISTER. I HATE NEW GQVE VAGGOTS.
|
||
661@I WANT TO TAKE A HATCHET TO THEIR HEADS.
|
||
662@I WANT TO PUT MY FIST TO THEIR FACE.
|
||
663@
|
||
664@TAKE SOME HEDGE CLIPPERS TO THEIR NECKS.
|
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665@AND STICK MY SIZE 14 BOOT UP THEIR #$%&!!
|
||
666@I WANT TO SMASH THEIR SKULLS WITH LOTS OF BRAIN OOZING OUT THE EARS.
|
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667@
|
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668@
|
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669@H
|
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670@I
|
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671@C
|
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672@I WANT TO STICK A PITCH-FORK UP THEIR NOSE.I WANT TO RAM MY KNEE INTO THEIR
|
||
673@I WANT TO SCOOP THEIR EYEBALLS OUT WITH A SPOON,LIKE THE WAY YOU CLEAN A CANTEL
|
||
674@PE.I WANT TO PEEL THEIR SKIN _FF,LIKE THE FRUIT ROLL-UPS.I'D DRY IT AND KNAW IT
|
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064=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 03/15/88 08:51 Msg:1294 Call:8735 Lines:49
|
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675 *%()@*%#_!)*%_)@%*_)!#@%!)+_^*$_#)*^&)%*!^)$&(_)&*_)!*(^_)$#*!^)(%#!^#)^(_)$(^_
|
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676 Barefoot: I received your message via the mails. Sometimes I just sit back in
|
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677 awe for the achievements of our society. To imagine that a piece of paper
|
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678 placed in a small box can be transported from one side of the country to the
|
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679 other in a few hours in exchange for a tiny piece f sylver is truly to
|
||
680 imagine a miracle. Folks of ages past would certainly consider such an act
|
||
681 to be in the realm of magic.
|
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682
|
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683 Your formatting, as always, impresses me. It is nice to see, for once, a
|
||
684 creature of flight that is not also a creature who bases its existence on
|
||
685 prey. In prey I mean that act that in any form steals a bit of soul, or
|
||
686 robs hopes from dreams, or changes th light of life into dark. Prey in the
|
||
687 form of words that written or said cast qgay dhe wish for life. "Sitting
|
||
688 in the early dawn light..." are words that do not prey. "...the reflecting
|
||
689 beauty of being" restore some of what is stolen by those things that prey.
|
||
690
|
||
691 Unfortunately, words and deeds of the dark side take bigger chunks of life
|
||
692 than words such as your attempt to restore. Perhaps my relationship to this
|
||
693 continual battle is askew, and that is the reason I always seem to take one
|
||
694 step forward and two steps back. On Friday your pages buoyed0my spirits. By
|
||
695 Monday, through other words and actions, I felt further behind than ever.
|
||
696 I wonder what would happen if no words of light and life came to that magic
|
||
697 outdoor box, or through another forms of high-tech magic. A soul can only
|
||
698 take so many two-steps back, before it has no where to step.
|
||
699
|
||
700 I grow weary of this battle, this conflict that rages between the creatures
|
||
701 of prey and the creatures of refresh and rebirth. On the outside, I am sure
|
||
702 all appearc fine, just as external views are seldom indicative of a system's
|
||
703 true state. The pain and damage is within. The kind of pain so difficult to
|
||
704 cure. Pain of the spirit, that injures deeply and usually irrecoverably.
|
||
705
|
||
706 "You can snap out of it!" "You wouldn't hurt if you didn't want to!" "You
|
||
707 won't open yourself to others!" "Aw, come on, everything will be ok."
|
||
708 I know the speakers of these words mean well, but their meanings fall on
|
||
709 ears that don't listen, and into a spiryt that can't seem to find the
|
||
710 strength to make the change. I know the magic of the modem and the mailbox
|
||
711 can't be applied to the human problems of character strength, or I, a
|
||
712 forever fan of technology, would have long ago applied it.
|
||
713
|
||
714@ A ship without
|
||
715@
|
||
716 A ship with a broken engine and without a sail is doomed to float on a sea
|
||
717 of chance, rising and falling, floating or sinking, on the whim on that
|
||
718 sea, and perhaps, the small ability of the human on boqbd.
|
||
719
|
||
720 d, I don't wish to ignore you, but time must take me from this place. I will
|
||
721 return though, and talk about more of the things you discussed. Thank you
|
||
722 for your reply.
|
||
723 *&%$(#*%_)#@$%*@#_%*@_#)%*@#_)% L'homme sans Parity %&$(@#)_&*@_#*%@_)%*@)%*@
|
||
065=Usr:397 dragon lady 03/15/88 11:34 Msg:1295 Call:8738 Lines:14
|
||
724 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- 15 Mar 88 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=-
|
||
725 Bartender: Thats just the kind of logic I'd expect from a slug!
|
||
726 Iu txought I didn't like it? S'not so! I'll assuredly give you credit
|
||
727 as I repeat it...
|
||
728 L'homme, will you forgive me? Your words draw up the fear that
|
||
729 perhaps you are struggling in the miry cistern of depression, and what
|
||
730 you need are consoling words. So may I keep silent in awaiting your
|
||
731 response as to why you feel this way, for I have erred.
|
||
732 "When anyone is replying to a matter before [she] hears it,
|
||
733 that is foolishness on [her] part and a humiliation."0(Proferbs 18:13)
|
||
734 John Dilks, you must trust me to answer at another time. Proof
|
||
735 of the existence of God is truly the crux of the matter, and I intend
|
||
736 to offer it before your eyes.
|
||
737 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- d -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=-
|
||
066=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/15/88 18:39 Msg:1297 Call:8755 Lines:2
|
||
738 Phoenix Polymorph here: Still no word on the socks, but I'm working on it
|
||
739 ^C
|
||
067=Usr:401 Artificial Kid 03/15/88 19:19 Msg:1298 Call:8757 Lines:#3
|
||
740 ************************ 15 MARCH 88 ***********************
|
||
741 ===================== Chiba City Kid ====================
|
||
742 -
|
||
743 Topic: "That was Zen, but this is now"
|
||
744 or Meta-statements give me a headache -
|
||
745 Godel's theorem certainly makes sense when applied to a formal system
|
||
746 such as number theory but can one really apply it to something as informal
|
||
747 as the "system" we call the universe? And if one is seeking to justify a
|
||
748 unified view of the universe weld not God be the most logical
|
||
749 meta-statement? Of course this then would lead to meta-gods,
|
||
750 meta-meta-gods, etc. in seeking to justify the existence of God. It seemed
|
||
751 to me that 'd', rather than seeking to prove God's existence on the basis
|
||
752 of his own belief in God, was instead seeking to justify the universe by
|
||
753 "jumping out of the system", using the axiom of an intelligent creator who
|
||
754 exists outside of the system and also happens to be the creator of the
|
||
755 "system". Certainly everyone has the right to reject this axiom but let's
|
||
756 hear a better one!
|
||
757 -
|
||
758 Regarding this concept of jumping outside of the system, Douglas Hofstadter
|
||
759 said: "Actually, in human affairs, it is often next to impossible to
|
||
760 break things neatly up into 'inside the system' and 'outside the system';
|
||
761 life is composed of so many interlocking and interwoven and often
|
||
762 inconsistent 'systems' that it may seem simplistic to think of things
|
||
763 in those terms. But it is often important do formulate simple ideas very
|
||
764 clearly so that one can use them as models in thinking about more complex
|
||
765 ideas."
|
||
766 -
|
||
767 The key is to not mistake the model for reality.
|
||
768 -
|
||
769 The Artificial Kid
|
||
770 **************************** Chiba City Kid ****************************
|
||
771
|
||
772 -
|
||
068=Usr:245 Doug King 03/16/88 14:28 Msg:1299 Call:8775 Lines:7
|
||
773 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
774 My theory on missing socks is when0they are in the dryer the circular motion
|
||
775 sends them into a time warp. Sometime in the future suddenly socks are going
|
||
776 to appear on in one day. The world will come to a grinding halt because of the
|
||
777 socks everywhere. We won't be able to drive cars cause the socks will be so
|
||
778 thick on the roads. Airplanes won't be able to take off either.
|
||
779 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bartender SLUG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
||
069=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/16/88 16:22 Msg:1300 Call:8777 \ines*9
|
||
780 Am I on? Que logo...NOW!
|
||
781 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>03-16-88>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>16:37>
|
||
782 Bartender Slug: Youre close, however the destination is random. Just think,
|
||
783 some day archeologists will find socks in some tomb some place.
|
||
784 .
|
||
785 Well, soething is causing weird charactors to show up on my screen (Must be the
|
||
786 BOC tape is TO LOUD), so I'm gone for now.
|
||
787 16:42>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.>>>>>>>>wwiii
|
||
788 ^C
|
||
070=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 03/16/88 18:37 Msg:1301 Call:8782 Lines:21
|
||
789 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
|
||
790
|
||
791 d - I think the point has been made a number of times about the
|
||
792 circular arguments you have used, but one more thing is the use of
|
||
793 biblical referents. It has been traditional on BWMS not to use
|
||
794 these quotes in a religion discussion, as the engender hostility
|
||
795 and dogmatism, depending on0ghich side you are on. A pretty
|
||
796 statement is not necessarily truth.
|
||
797
|
||
798 I do feel there is something more than this corporeal existence, but I
|
||
799 cannot prove that, nor can I really define it. "IS", "God", "Budda", or
|
||
800 "Collective Subconcious" (As opposed to the collective unconcious, the
|
||
801 aftermath of a frat party)
|
||
802 These are all names given to that something there is beyond us. If there
|
||
803 is more than this life, is it important to know about it? The religious
|
||
8 4 amng us say "Absolutely" and if you don't know about my way, thn you
|
||
805 are doomed to die.
|
||
806 But is that really the case? Could a kind loving God just damn us forever
|
||
807 just for not paying attention? I don't know.
|
||
808 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][]
|
||
809
|
||
071=Usr:272 Talos 03/16/88 22:56 Msg:1302 Call:8795 Lines:14
|
||
810 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
|
||
811 This search for truth is interestyng in a strange way. Personally, I follow
|
||
812 my own style of life and take it day by day. I set no standards to uphold other
|
||
813 than common decency and good manners. I don't necessarily "believe" in anything
|
||
814 other than I'm here and I gotta make sense of this shit. My personaly axiom is
|
||
815 "Nothing Is Impossible." Given time of couse, anything can be made possible.
|
||
816 So in my life I try to do all I can to achieve happiness. Whether that's buying
|
||
817 a cheeseburger or climbing a mountain, I d it0to my fullest capabilities, and
|
||
818 enjoy it to the fullest. Life is only what you make of it so make the verses
|
||
819 rhyme and all the pieces fit. The isn't much time you can make sense of it
|
||
820 because it's always moving. So don't stop moving and don't take anything too
|
||
821 seriously. Enjoy.
|
||
822 Talos
|
||
823 <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
|
||
072=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/16/88 23:16 Msg:1303 Call:8796 Lines:19
|
||
824 Txis ic Phoenix Polymorph. Screw the socks for now...
|
||
825 At one time I also searched for the truth, but never knew what IT was I was sea
|
||
826 rching for. Eventually the search led me into the occult, a brief endeavour th
|
||
827 at took me basicly no where (any one want some Tarot cards? Low milage?). Mus
|
||
828 ic came next. Seeking knowledg from fools and from sages. This helped a littl
|
||
829 e, but still left me saying"So that's how I shuld live, but what the hell am I
|
||
830 doing here?". I still listen0to }y music, but I found a new escape for myself:
|
||
831 I ignore reality and live on various differant 'planes of reality'. This is on
|
||
832 e of them. another I play drums for a rock band.
|
||
833 I still don't know 'WHY', and right now, sadly, I don't cabe. I guess deep d
|
||
834 own I figure if I quit looking, I'll find it...
|
||
835 =
|
||
836 =
|
||
837 "I've still not found why I'm lookin' for"
|
||
838 points if you can tell me where that is from.
|
||
839 =
|
||
840 =
|
||
841 Phoenix out
|
||
842 ^C
|
||
073=Usr:3 Ramek0 03/17/88 22:37 Msg:1304 Call:8832 Lines:37
|
||
843 -----------------------------------------------------------------
|
||
844 I'm not sure why people want to personalize the concept of
|
||
845 God, or why they want to put limits on life. Maybe it is to
|
||
846 define the limits of their lives, to build nice cozy little
|
||
847 shells around themselves.
|
||
848 And of course by demanding that others follow their rules,
|
||
849 they can control them. Which perhaps is another reason for it. If
|
||
850 yoe0don7t believe in their rules then you are of no importance,
|
||
851 and if you do they can control your life. Don't think for
|
||
852 yourself, just do as they say. follow the leader and don't even
|
||
853 think of possibly being a leader yourself moving in your own
|
||
854 direction, that is wrong.
|
||
855 Maybe that is why I don't like religion, it closes in on
|
||
856 you, limits what you can know and do. You are not allowed to
|
||
857 question and explore beyond the limits they set. If you try you
|
||
858 are tld you are evil. I have never believed that others should
|
||
859 set limits on what people can or cannot do. We must be free to
|
||
860 grow and expand ourselves. There is nothing wrong in reaching out
|
||
861 towards God to try to become as God. It is my belief that that is
|
||
862 the true destiny of mankind, to become one with the universe.
|
||
863 I think that is why I have always tried to help people grow
|
||
864 and better themselves, in my own small way it is how I am trying
|
||
865 to help them achieve thad goa|. To help them in their path
|
||
866 towards a better existence. It is not because I am selfless, I do
|
||
867 it because I hope that they will help me in turn. And in most
|
||
868 cases I have been rewarded. As the saying goes, what I put out I
|
||
869 get back three fold increased.
|
||
870 I suppose you could call it karma, though I don't believe in
|
||
871 it specifically as the definition puts it. I see it as simply
|
||
872 that people will treat you as you treat them. If you treat them
|
||
873 well, on a who|e they will treat you well. Sooner or later a
|
||
874 circumstance will happen where they can do something good for you
|
||
875 with little or no work on their part, and when that happens they
|
||
876 will remember your kindness and return the favor. It takes no
|
||
877 effort on my part to be kind and considerate, and it can bring so
|
||
878 much in return.
|
||
879 ----------------------------- Ramek -----------------------------
|
||
074=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 03/18/88 02:31 Msg:1305 Call:8838 Lines:1
|
||
880 U2 says "I still haven't found what I'm looking for."
|
||
075=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/18/88 15:30 Msg:1306 Call:8845 Lines:7
|
||
881 -------------------------------------------------
|
||
882 Raise your can of beer on high
|
||
883 and seal your fate forever.
|
||
884 Our best years have passed us by
|
||
885 the golden age of leather.
|
||
886 -------------------------------------------------
|
||
887 ^C
|
||
076=Usr:397 dragon lady 03/18/88 23:38 Msg:1307 Call:8861 Lines:18
|
||
888 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- 18 Mar 88 -=*=- -=*=- 0-=*=- -=*=-
|
||
889 How ready the Inn patrons prove to be, when it comes to leaping into
|
||
890 a fray! May I thank you all for your responses regarding the search for
|
||
891 truth: such curiousity is readily kindled in an honest heart.
|
||
892 CC Kid, thank you for defending the fairness of my approach. I bow
|
||
893 to your knowledge on the subject of meta-statements--I had to be briefed
|
||
894 by the dictionary, myself!
|
||
895 Posing the question once again: How can any of us acquire true wisdom?
|
||
896 I aver dxat the Bible *is* worthy of consideration on such a serious
|
||
897 matter. The Bible itself says it is from God, mankind's Creator; please
|
||
898 grant this book it's own voice: "All Scripture is inspired of God
|
||
899 and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight,
|
||
900 for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully
|
||
901 competent, completely equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16,17)
|
||
902 If there is a God, we'd naturally expect God's message to all man{ind
|
||
903 to be available around the globe. The Bible, the whole or in part, has
|
||
904 been translated into some 1,800 languages. Its circulation totals in
|
||
905 the billions, outstripping every other book.
|
||
077=Usr:397 dragon lady 03/19/88 00:21 Msg:1308 Call:8862 Lines:26
|
||
906 More than the bold claim of inspiration, it tackles issues that often
|
||
907 politicians and teachers steer clear of: (1) Bible prophecy explains
|
||
908 the meaning of world conditions. Many world leaders acknowledge that
|
||
)09 mqnkind is on the brink of disaster. The Bible foretold these condi-
|
||
910 tions long ago; it explains their meaning and what the outcome will be.
|
||
911 (2) The Bible enables us to understand the purpose of life. I cannot
|
||
912 help but be drawn to the wistful tone in your message, Phoenix, asking
|
||
913 'why are we here?' and the unspoken query in Talos' philosophy 'is it
|
||
914 just to live a few years, get what we can out of life, and then die?'
|
||
915 The Bible answers such questions.
|
||
916 A final reason0for considering the Bible: it shows how we can have
|
||
917 the very things that lovers of righteousness desire most. For example,
|
||
918 it tells us where to find wholesome associates who truly love one
|
||
919 another (John 13:35), what can give assurance that we will have
|
||
920 sufficient food for ourselves and our families (Matthew 6:31-33;
|
||
921 Proverbs 19:15; Ephesians 4:28), and how we can be happy in spite of
|
||
922 difficult conditions that surround us.--Psalms 1:1,2; 34:8; Luke 11:28;
|
||
923 Acts 20:35. Rut what of the future? It explains that God's Kingdom,
|
||
924 his government, will remove the present wicked system (Daniel 2:44),
|
||
925 and under its rule mankind will be able to enjoy perfect health and
|
||
926 eternal life.--Revelation 21:3,4; compare Isaiah 33:24.
|
||
927 Do you say, OUTRAGEOUS?! Who could promise all that?
|
||
928 Surely a book that claims to be from God, that explains both the
|
||
929 meaning of world conditions and the purpose of life, and that shows
|
||
930 how our problems will be solved yc *worthy of consideration*.
|
||
931 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- d -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=-
|
||
078=Usr:379 Phoenix Polymorp 03/19/88 01:30 Msg:1309 Call:8863 Lines:23
|
||
932 THIS IS...bag it.
|
||
933 Has anyone given considderation to what is out 'there'? There being The Great
|
||
934 Beyound. Is it posable that there *is* a Heavan and Hell, in a non-religious
|
||
935 sense? It is said that even the gods have gods. Could it be that God created
|
||
936 us, and he is only a child and the Earth is a dust-mte yn the sun that shines
|
||
937 in his bedroom window? Is the devil his evil brother? It is said (some place
|
||
938 in Revilations) that the sky will be ripped open, and God'll peek in. Could
|
||
939 this be taken as a rip in the dimensional fabric, and, indeed, there is a time
|
||
940 out of space? (please parden my lack of paragraphing) I am a believer of God,
|
||
941 yet I still belteve things that are not to othodox <sp?>. Such that our God is
|
||
942 a loving god and won't damn a soul to hell for not knowi~g (ie. people that
|
||
943 haven't heard of His religion, or an infant that dies befor he can know Him) an
|
||
944 d allows at least another chanc. Hence re-incarnation. I admit, I am quite
|
||
945 a day-dreamer, and theorised simultainious lives. People talk about 'past live
|
||
946 s' but never 'future lives', I mean with this regression thing they do, has it
|
||
947 never occured to them to 'progress' a person? May-be I'm just mad, or it could
|
||
948 be 2a.m. wow kicking in. I don't know. Could even be the beer I0dra~k earlier
|
||
949 but what I guess I'm trying to say is that it may be possable for no man to gai
|
||
950 n that ultimate wisdom I once saught.
|
||
951 Please, think about what has been said on this disk, and not forget it when the
|
||
952 y change to a new one.0 Yassassin.
|
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953 Phoenix Pollymorph
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954 ^C
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079=Usr:237 barefoot john 03/19/88 05:45 Msg:1310 Call:8866 Lines:45
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955 { <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< /* capt'n barefoot */ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
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956 DUCK! DUCK? proclaimed the hunters, we'll have0come fun with this
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957 foul. QUACK, QUACK, QUACK, resounded the capt'n from the aft deck
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958 of the 'humorous Truth'. Y'see, some folks plumb forgot serious
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959 and sincere are not synonymous. <sincere grin> When one presumes
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960 to know thu nature of another, it tends to impede the flow of new
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961 aspects big communicated.
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962
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963 [Sincere Mode ON]
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964 Relationship is a fundamental nature of reality. Many and varied
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965 are its forms. Just look at the 'backwater', relationship is0what
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966 brings us to this reflective pool. Now we're cookin' folks. It's
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967 wonderful to see many of you reveal some of your inner self, and
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968 such a rich diversity. Some take the path of belief, others wish
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969 to explore various aspects of understanding. Both can be equally
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970 valid personal expressions, neither seems proper to impose upon
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971 another. I would suggest the most human approach is to encourage
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972 each person to discover their own nature, and to know 'treth' and
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973 happiness.(Perhaps they are all aspect of the same relationship)
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974
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975 Chiba AK ---- WELL put. That was exactly the point of the'tounge
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976 in cheek' reference to Godel. Duality of creator and created is
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977 actualized by the concept of separate self. Amazing how writers
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978 of many 'artifical stupidity' programs seem to forget Shannn's
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979 theorem indicating a <bound system> becomes unpredictable when
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980 exposed to unfiltered input, such as direct experiencu. Nw, let
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981 us (cast) another model. Is the process of changing one's belief
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982 somewhat similar to modifying the 'operating system' while it's
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983 running? Could be a reasonable metaphor, within its boundary of
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984 course. DO! continue, I appreciate your thoughts...
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985
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986 L'homme ---- My friend, you stand balanced on the cutting edge of
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987 Occam's razor. Look inside the main cabin, is that several bags
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988@
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989 the wheel, i'll whistle for the wind. Even an o|e' sea dog gets
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990 a little looney becalmed in the 'horse latitudes'. <<That should
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991 make me fair game for the opeig of hunting season.
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992 CISTOP - John D.- Friar- Talos - 'd' - Milch - piper(?) - et. all
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993 egretfully I must 'fly'. I very much enjoy all your expression.
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994 Comments must await <applause> . . .
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995 { <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< /* capt'n barefoot */ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
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996 Correction: Is that several bags of sails I see; of fine cut & cloth.
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997 Bend on some canvasc and take the wheel...
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998
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999 I got those ole' download blues down ...From Suck Creek <really>
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