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001=#-1-4 03/15/1987 16:14 M#0 C#0 (0 Min) 19 Lines
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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask...
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2 ************************* 23 MAR 87 (DA developement) *************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 no restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 to leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ***********************************************************
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19
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002=#84-4 03/15/1987 14:22 M#1 C#3 (15 Min) 2 Lines
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20@At the top! Woopee!!!!
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21@Boarder..Boredoor..Boardear
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003=#84-4 03/15/1987 14:45 M#2 C#10 (5 Min) 3 Lines
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22@Har hardy har.. A real twit was here
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23@^G^G^G^G ding-a-ling-a-ling
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24@Ain't I neat? ^G^G^G^G^G^G
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004=#84-4 03/15/1987 15:02 M#3 C#18 (25 Min) 4 Lines
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26 An idea of what a Header would look like mixed in with some text
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27 I don't know if it means anything or not.
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28 Of course part of this is to see how visible it will look mixed with text.
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29 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY *************************
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005=#0-4 03/15/1987 16:24 M#0 C#0 (0 Min) 5 Lines
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30 Hello. test.
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31 test.
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32 test.
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33 test some more.
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34 test again.
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006=#0-4 03/15/1987 16:56 M#0 C#0 (0 Min) 2 Lines
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35 Yat (Yet another test).
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36 3/15/78 @ 4:55pm
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007=#0-4 03/15/1987 17:00 M#0 C#0 (0 Min) 1 Lines
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37 Snarf?
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008=#0-4 11/03/1989 00:46 M#0 C#0 (1 Min) 2 Lines
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38 Snort, growf snit... Gronk?
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39
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009=#0-4 03/19/1987 01:43 M#0 C#0 (0 Min) 1 Lines
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40 Snark, snorf.
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010=#0-4 03/19/1987 02:01 M#0 C#0 (0 Min) 3 Lines
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41 $^%#@*&^#(*&^@#*^@#*(&@%#&^%@*&#%&@^%#&^%#&^@%#&^%@^&#%&^@%# T.T.
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42
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43 Strikes again!
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011=#0-4 03/19/1987 02:13 M#0 C#0 (0 Min) 2 Lines
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44 Snarf, glorb, snit, growf, the lazy brown dog jump over the quick fox, or
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45 something like that.
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012=#0-4 01/31/1984 03:50 M#0 C#0 (3 Min) 7 Lines
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46 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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47 Well, now. Is this thing working reasonably? I see that the messages so
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48 far consist of BWMAKE stuff plus my own testing ramblings (see "Snarf",
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49 above). Just a couple of more pieces to stick in, and then we can let
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50 (shudder) the general public at it.
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51 +++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch +++++++++ 3/22/87 at 3:24am (of course, you
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52 *knew* that, didn't you?
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013=#0-4 01/31/1984 04:15 M#0 C#0 (14 Min) 20 Lines
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53 Milch: knew what? Who are you? How did you find out what was here?
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54 How did you even get here? For that matter who am I? and how did
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55 *I* get here? Where am I? I think I'm lost in a neverending
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56 entry in the twilight zone. Dee doo dee doo dee doo dee doo dee doo
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57 I'm waiting for the disk to access again to see how long it takes
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58 there it went, took about 1 to 2 seconds. Now *that* is going to
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59 make for some interesting download programs, since when the disk
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60 drives grab the system they shut off interrupts which means you
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61 have to wait for it to come back. Hmmm I don't see any real easy
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62 way around this other than possibly doing what is done in BW
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63 right now, which is to not echo the next character until the disk
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64 is done. Of course that would be basicly what is happening here right
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65 now. (The disk just accessed again, gives you an idea of how far
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66 between accesses.) Unless we go to ramdisk I don't know any easy
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67 way around this. Hmmmm what about if we put all the entries into
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68 records on the heap? That would mean making a 80K record file out
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69 on the heap with pointers, then when we go through the hangup procedure
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70 (or drive switch, or maybe on ^C) we could dump it all to disk.
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71 (There went the disk drive again.) Any ideas?
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72 ********** Who else uses this border (and I'm not kathyD :-) **************
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014=#0-4 03/22/1987 22:05 M#0 C#0 (9 Min) 16 Lines
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73@[ 28 percival->News > cat Rec.arts.sf-lovers
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74@From reed!tektronix!cae780!hplabs!hpcea!hpda!hpesoc1!hpsal2!hpdsd!hpindda!jeo
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75@Wed Mar 18 22:22:40 PST 1987
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76@Article 2201 of rec.arts.sf-lovers:
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77@Path:
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78@percival!reed!tektronix!cae780!hplabs!hpcea!hpda!hpesoc1!hpsal2!hpdsd!hpindda!o
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79@>From: jeo@hpindda.UUCP (Eric Okholm)
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80@Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf-lovers
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81 Aha! oops! no it *isn't a bug. lines remaining doesn't reflect deleted lines
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82 (which is as it should be).
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83 And as for uploads, *I* don't have any trouble (except maybe falling asleep)
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84 just wait for the echoes...
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85 (gee, maybe we should recompile this and call it driveC & D until we get the
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86 testing done, just think of the fun... dropping references to "your msg on
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87 Drive d..." Heh heh..
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88 ____03/22/87__________Leonard_JD 2446877.7448_________21:52:37_PST_________
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015=#0-4 03/22/1987 23:58 M#0 C#0 (-1434 Min) 9 Lines
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89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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90 Mike: Well, I was referring to the time I entered the above message, but
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91 the system didn't get the time right for some reason (:-}). What I am is
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92 just a pigment of your imagination (for you have a very colorful
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93 imagination...). Problems have arisen with my hardware (*serious* ones),
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94 Steve is going to help tomorrow... don't expect any code updates to
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95 BWLIST for a day or two at least. Things are getting hectic at this end.
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96 But, hey, who cares, I'm just your imagination, right?
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97 ++++++++++++++ Milch +++++++++++ 3/22/87 23:34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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016=#0-4 03/23/1987 06:19 M#0 C#0 (17 Min) 10 Lines
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98 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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99 you know, this is all quite confusing. is there still a way
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100 to look beyond the door, at the OS per say? now i'm stuck
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101 within the room behind the door rather than being able to
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102 look at the room that hid behind that dreadful door.
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103 Inkeeper, your help would be most appreciated -- i'm lost again.
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104 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& the scarlet lion &&&&&&&
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105 JUST ME -- JUST ME -- JUST ME -- JUST ME -- JUST ME -- JUST ME -- JUST ME
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106 TRY "GO 12" AND TELL ME: WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? 8^)
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107 JUST ME -- JUST ME -- JUST ME -- check out the TIme, to -- JUST ME -- JUST ME
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017=#0-4 03/23/1987 20:03 M#0 C#0 (14 Min) 21 Lines
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108 ***************************************************************
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109 Hmmm, seems there is some updating to do eh? I'll reset the time right now
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110 (it is 18:10) and we'll see how badly it gets out of wack. The Sanyo never
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111 was known for having very good time keeping.
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112 Scarlet lion: no, there isn't anyway to see the room anymore, the universe
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113 in which it was created has formed into the reality that you see. Of course
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114 on special request we can create a temporary world that contains the
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115 definition of this one. Hmmm, this disk drive access thing is going to be
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116 a real pain. I think I will have to look into it to see if there is
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117 anyway I can do something about it.
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118 *************************** CISTOP MIKEY ****************************
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119 P.S. A question, does this get included in the archives? and if so,
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120 how do we label it?
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121 *******************************************************************
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122 *****************
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123 Note the following problems:
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124 go to line 2, and type "CH ** *"
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125 replace should show the line being replaced.
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126 I find myself typing "HE" expecting to get "here" but instead I get "help"
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127 does anyone else have this problem?
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128 ********************************* MIKEY ***********
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018=#0-4 03/24/1987 01:24 M#0 C#0 (9 Min) 11 Lines
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129 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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130 heavens no! don't include these initial observations into the archives!
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131 i was a twit once, i don't need to be seen as one again.... if anyone
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132 were to read this...
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133 Mikey, thank you for clearing things up as to the nature of this
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134 existance. i am well able to cope with the reality of it all...
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135 rememer, i came along while trying to avoid reality, and see where it got
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136 me? in some strange craft in an attemt to save the universe... from
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137 itself. yes, i think i shall stick with reality!
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138 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& the scarlet lion &&&&&&&
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139 or perhaps we could all get a bit carried away with creative writing?
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019=#0-4 03/24/1987 20:53 M#0 C#0 (2 Min) 8 Lines
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140 **************************************************
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141 In BW#1 the line numbers default to off on the incomming call.
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142 Do we want them on or off? I myself always turn them on first thing,
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143 But not everyone does.
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144 Point 2, the LI command in BW#1 says how many lines there are
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145 when it starts up. It doesn't say anything here. I guess that
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146 could be considered a bug.
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147 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ***************************
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020=#0-4 03/25/1987 03:24 M#0 C#0 (18 Min) 16 Lines
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148 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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149 line numbers are an interesting case, i'm sure it's a matter of opinion
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150 with each caller. persoanlly, i tend to leave them alone unless i must
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151 look for where i left off... i don't leave markers and have tryed to
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152 resort to memory, which isn't so keen when it comes to remembering a
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153 three digit number with a two letter prefix that changes every time i look.
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154 oh, and another point about the LIST command... i typo'd "LI8ST" only to
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155 receive a listing starting from line 8. is the command parser looking only
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156 for the first two characters, not caring whether there is a space between
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157 the command itself and a variable that may follow? i typed in "LI90ST" to
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158 receive the listing from line 90.
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159 what you have here with bw2 aren't bugs, they're features that need some
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160 more fine tuning...
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161 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& the scarlet lion &&&&&&&
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162 bw2 says 03/25/87 -- my machine says 03/25/87 01:23 oh my!
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163 (silly me) that was '03:40' -tsl
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021=#0-4 03/25/1987 16:53 M#0 C#0 (3 Min) 15 Lines
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164 tHIS IS Steve.
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165 time given 16:53 when it is only 13:44.
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166
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167 The delay between lines is quite noticable here. Hmmm. We better get that
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168 speeded up. Buffer problems according to Shawn.
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169
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171 Not much problem then, but sometimes.... snooze.
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172 like the idea of a BW behind BW. Really interesting. The LI command
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173 hould have the # of lines in the current drive added as per tsl's comment.
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174
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175 *%$#*%_*%@# <- the first lhomme border on the new BW!
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176
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177 PS Mikey I liked the innkeeper entry. I will try to write something doorish
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178 before I go to SF.
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022=#0-4 03/26/1987 02:37 M#0 C#0 (1 Min) 4 Lines
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179 ************************************
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180 hmmm, it is now 10:47 pm wed, and the sanyo thinks it is 2:38am thr.
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181 just a tad bit off i'd say....
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182 ******************* CISTOP MIKEY ************************
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023=#0-4 03/26/1987 06:10 M#0 C#0 (10 Min) 14 Lines
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183 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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184 Okay, now that some free time has presented itself, I can work on source.
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185 I don't understand what's going on with CH ** *, I suspect it may be a
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186 side effect of the permission checking.
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187 LIst can easily be modified to display # of lines. Both LI and PR need work
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188 to eliminate the Deleted Lines at Bottom Bug, and I can do it then.
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189 Regarding line numbers: I always turn them off when reading, and turn them
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190 on only when I get to the bottom of the disk (so I can read what line number
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191 I finished at). They tend to annoy me on a 40-col screen. :-}
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192 Regarding line IO problem: I'm open for suggestions- procedure "outdisk" is
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193 as simple as I could make it. Can anyone write a faster routine?
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194 Holding lines in memory presents additional problems to be worked out, if
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195 this is done.
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196 +++++++++++++++++++ Milch +++++++++ 3/26/87 at 4:30pm +++++++++++++++++++++
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024=#0-4 03/26/1987 08:41 M#0 C#0 (22 Min) 16 Lines
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197 ***************************************
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198 I put the list fix in here as a quick patch. What I did was to look at the
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199 first number used, and if it was "1" or "0" (default) then I printed
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200 the "lastline" variable before beginning the listing.
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201 Also notice a slight change in how things come up here, I put in a
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202 wait for "cr" when BWII first comes up just after loading the link files
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203 but before going into the command procedure loop. I also did some
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204 minor work on the INT14 stuff to improve the modem handling.
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205 Routines that I have played with so far include: BWII (various things)
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206 BWMISC (int14 and keychr), and of course BWLIST (adding the Lines msg).
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207 The BWLIST isn't important, you are going to be digging into it anyway,
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208 don't worry about that one. Oh yeah, I also changed "prnheader" to remove
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209 the "usrname" portion of the header since we decided not to have that
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210 in the header since it would take too long to go to the disk and search
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211 out the name from the usr.log file.
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212 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ***********************************
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025=#0-4 03/26/1987 12:31 M#0 C#0 (14 Min) 23 Lines
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213 GEE, just a few bugs... LEVEL 1 (while *at* level 1) responds LEVEL 4 ACTIVE.
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214 I'm entering this at level 0....
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215 test
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217 test
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218 test
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219 test
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220 test
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221 test
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222 There seems to be a slight bug in BYE also. Several times, I've typed BYE and
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223 started to type the ^C's to get back to BW I only to find myself back at the
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224 BW II "Command: " prompt... Any ideas on this?
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225 Shawn: re the every six lines delay, I'll bet that it is due to the fact that
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226 six lines @ 82 (83?) char per line = 498.. or just about 1 sector...
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227 The @$%%#% software isn't writing to disk til it has a full buffer! If there is
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228 a way to force *true* random access to files, then we can just force a write
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229 ept that that is *way* too slow) <sigh>
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230 What on *earth* is going on? I'm losing chars at the start of almost every line
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231 unless I pause after the cr?!? (I could understand it if it was the disk access
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232 but that shouldn't happen this often!) (dare I suggest sending <cr><^S> at the
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233 end of the line and then <^Q> at the start of the line read routine?)
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234 That might also make uploads easier for those who can use XON/XOFF...
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235 ____03/26/87__________Leonard_JD 2446881.7638_________22:19:54_PST_________
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026=#0-4 03/26/1987 16:39 M#0 C#0 (5 Min) 6 Lines
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236 +++++++++++++++++++++++
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237 Isn't there a flush() procedure in Turbo? I have no documentation. Someone
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238 please look this up.
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239 It looks cleaner, Mike. See my message on Lem about what's going on.
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240 We'll see if flushing works well enough, and, if not, try array tricks.
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241 +++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch (Mad Ibm Programmer :-}) ++++++++++++++++++++
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027=#0-4 03/27/1987 08:03 M#0 C#0 (3 Min) 6 Lines
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242 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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243 an mip rather than the notorious mcp? the day has come!
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244 the world may end now, we are only able to tolerate so much in the way
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245 of technological development, after all.
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246 <sigh> the TImes, they are a changin'....
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247 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& the scarlet lion &&&&&&&
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028=#0-4 03/27/1987 09:22 M#0 C#0 (9 Min) 10 Lines
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248 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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249 All: The bugs are fixed! Now, how do I get the sources to you? My XT does
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250 not have a modem, so I can't upload... seems only direct disk exchange will
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251 work. Would the PCS social be soon enough, or would you like them sooner?
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252 Harumph, it looks like we'll get this thing up more nearly on *my* birthday,
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253 rather than BW's. Nearly 3 years now I have lurked and written here.
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254 tsl: Yes, the times are changing, and my need for greater computing power
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255 caused me to seek out a computer with greater abilities. The 64 has been
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256 a terminal-only machine for about nine months now.
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257 +++++++++++++++ Milch +++++++++++++ March 27, 1987 at 5:04pm ++++++++++++++++
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029=#0-4 03/27/1987 13:04 M#0 C#0 (1 Min) 3 Lines
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258 Milchar: could I interest you in a dumb 300 baud modem?
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259 (I'm keeping the 'smart' one with the non-hayes command set...)
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260 ____03/27/87__________Leonard_JD 2446882.6798_________20:19:01_PST_________
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030=#0-4 03/29/1987 01:59 M#0 C#0 (14 Min) 16 Lines
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261 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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262 Leonard: Maybe. I'm looking into some 300/1200 ones someone else is offering
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263 that Dan Sweet told me about. Right now I could care less about Hayes
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264 compatiblity, I just want up/download ability and (hopefully) 1200 baud.
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265 I'll do without auto-dial and auto-answer if need be.
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266 Mike: I have modified BWLIST, BWCMD, BWII, and BWMISC.
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267 BWLIST: I think my copy can completely replace yours. A new function,
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268 oktolist(), has been tacked on at the top and is used by PR and LI.
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269 BWCMD: Some cosmetic changes, and LEVEl asks for a password to switch from
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270 level 0 to 4. No password is required to switch back.
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271 BWMISC: Printheader modified as it is here. A new function, Getpass(), has
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272 been added. The status line has the current level number included.
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273 BWII: Just got rid of 'username' and related stuff.
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274 Now, hopefully a smooth merge of our work is possible. I have mine backed up
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275 and will bring a copy to the social on Thursday.
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276 +++++++++++++++++++++ Milch +++++++++++++++ 3/29/87 at 12:41am +++++++++++++++
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031=#0-4 03/29/1987 14:01 M#0 C#0 (10 Min) 22 Lines
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277 *******************************************************
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278 I'll bring listings of what I have that way we can compare notes in
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279 real time. I still need to make some changes to allow for the modem control
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280 A lot of it is already in there, but it still needs some work.
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281 One problem I have to work on is the DTR/RTS signal control which the
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282 Sanyo likes to manipulate everytime it accesses the disk drives.
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283 I know approximately where it is, so I should be able to patch it out without
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284 too much trouble. The other thing I want to look into is improving the
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285 disk drive access time. The problem is that it goes out and gets a sector, and
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286 by the time it gets done printing that sector the disk drives have shut down
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287 so the system has to turn them back on and wait for them to come up to speed
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288 thus the big slow down. The big problem is that there is hardware limitations
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289 involved as they use the head select line from the disk controller to turn
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290 the drive motor on so when the disk controller decides it is time to unload
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291 the head the drive gets turned off. What I want to do is figure out how
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292 to leave the disk running all the time while on line, thus not needing
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293 the powerup delay sort of like BW currently works. I don't know if it is
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294 possible, but I want to at least look into it.
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295 ************************* CISTOP MIKEY *****************************
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296 To all: please use the BYE command to log off rather than the OFF command
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297 it will automaticcally dump you back to BWMS and close the system here properly
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298 OFF leaevs the system here running still.
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032=#0-4 03/29/1987 17:24 M#0 C#0 (3 Min) 3 Lines
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299 Sorry about that, but you might check the code for OFF. Once I typed it, I
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300 couldn't get back *on*! It appeared to ignore *everything* I typed.
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301 ____03/29/87__________Leonard_JD 2446884.4349_________14:26:15_PST_________
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302 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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303 pardons for still another question, is there another level in here other
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304 than levels 0 and 4? after seeing reference to the LEVEl command, i tried
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305 it, and lo! headers, i see headers! now i'm off to test my memory further.
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306 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& the scarlet lion &&&&&&&
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307 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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308 tsl: Not yet. Only levels 0 and 4 are implemented. The other levels have
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309 meanings, but the code has not evolved to a high enough evolutionary state to
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310 allow their use. Eventually, they will be used (when the full definition of
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311 BWII comes online).
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312 all: I have something "doorish" written here, I shall bring copy to the meeting
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313 to get the thoughts moving in that direction.
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314 +++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++ March 29, 1987 at 7:33pm ++++++
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035=#0-4 03/30/1987 04:28 M#0 C#0 (11 Min) 5 Lines
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315 Gee, the clock is 20 hours slow... can a Sanyo use a "zero-slot clock"
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316 board such are sold for the IBM?
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317 ____03/30/87__________Leonard_JD 2446884.8518_________00:26:37_PST_________
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318 ps, try deleting the last line of your entry while at level 0. Then go up a
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319 few lines and list it.... (luckily ^C will get you out of the loop!)
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036=#0-4 03/30/1987 19:19 M#0 C#0 (0 Min) 1 Lines
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320 +++++++ That bug is why Mikey needs my copy of BWLIST... ++++++ Milch
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321 As I remember, the "zero slot clock" still uses a slot, but attaches
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322 itself in such a way that it leaves the slot open for another card.
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323 As such no, the Sanyo can't use it because it doesn't have any slots
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324 to attach to. I'm not sure how to handle that particular problem
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325 since it involves the sanyo internal timing. There are some adapter
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326 boards that you can buy for the Sanyo that give it a better clock,
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327 but that costs money. Sigh....
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328 Milch: did you fix Replace so that it displays the line you are replacing
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329 before actually doing same as per current BW?
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330 It is a bit unnerving not knowing if you are replacing the line
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331 you think you are replacing.
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332 *********************** CISTOP MIKEY **********************
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038=#0-4 04/01/1987 05:06 M#0 C#0 (4 Min) 8 Lines
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333 I've seen ads for at least one 'zero-slot clock' that was a *small* board that
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334 you plugged the 8088 into and then plugged into the 8088 socket. If you wish,
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335 I'll check on price and other details. If it's in the <$30 range, it could
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336 probably be thrown in with the modem purchase.
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337 ng that, maybe something hooked up to a second serial port (as I recall, you
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338 used to sell com2 boards for the Sanyo?)
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339 ____03/31/87__________Leonard_JD 2446886.6844_________20:25:32_PST_________
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340 Milchar: check oo for Net activity...
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341 ***************************************
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342 No, the Sanyo does not have a com2 port. It only has a com1 port which
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343 is an extra cost option. (and is what I was selling).
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344 Disk buffering problems. I looked into it, and it doesn't look very
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345 promising from a stand point of rewriting the drivers. There are some
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346 hardware limitations. I think the best approach would be to do it in buffers
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347 or a ram disk and wait to do the updates until after they hangup.
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348 Any ideas? This could possibly make coding easier since we wouldn't have
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349 to load everthing into memory, only update the things that have changed.
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350 It is possible to ugrade the Sanyo to 512K, though it isn't easy, and
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351 does require a patched DOS to do so. A better approach is to buy a
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352 video board that has the extra memory on board. An even better approach
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353 is to get a "real" PC clone....
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354 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ****************************
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355 P.S. The is a add on board for the Sanyo for $200 that adds up to 768k of
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356 memory to the system, has a built in battery backup clock. If I had $200
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357 to throw away I would consider getting it.
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358 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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359 <sigh> it's so good too see so much activity around here! it's nice
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360 to know things are getting done and that the system is really getting
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361 a work out.
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362 Cistop; your message on drive a (in front of the door) certainly made
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363 me stop to think for a moment. i'm sure that most readers with any
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364 form of conscience for the other fellow also took pause. not often
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365 do we find such frank expressions of "that's the way things are, joe."
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366 i know it must sound rather shallow to ask, but is there anything any
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367 of us might be able to do to offer you help to ease these rough times?
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368 all the rest of you hard working programmer types; keep it going!
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369 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& the scarlet lion &&&&&&&
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370
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371 I love it! It just told me 629 lines remaining... (funny, the disk doesn't
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372 *look* empty.)
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373 Milchar: following is a revised version of the data in the msg on Lem.
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374 2 lines --> l5 -e text code
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375 You know what *I* really hate? I hate it when I staple my lip to an
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376 anvil and throw it off the top of a 3 story building.
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378 code --> l5 -d code text2
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379 KEWWJ HCKMY WWNHC WMAPW HHAJI DUB@\ SELEV FX^I@ MAPWH YI_D@ PDRHC HLEZF JHCIN
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380 PPGNZ CEMXP DRHCS NQPW@ [CEDA VWRHC LMEXB @]COD APV\B SAMY[ FR[A@ LEWFH HCTMA
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381 YF^]Y @MEZB @[[FL XPGHZ CEDAZ F^\A@ M]SB@ XI@FL PGF]C ONI\R @XSUM EVFHZ
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383 code (l5.ba output)
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384 KEWWK VKKMY WWOVK WMAPW IVIJI DUMR\ SELEV FX^NY MAPWH YI_[G LTSVK HLEZF KVKIN
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385 SLWNZ CEM[L TSVKS NQPW@ [CE[E VWSVK LMEXM R]CO[ EPV\B SAMY[ FR[FY LEWFI VKTMA
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386 YF^]^ YMEZM R[[FL [LWHZ CE[EZ F^\FY M]SMR XNYFO LWF]C ONI\] RXSUM EVFHZ KNL\W
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388 output --> (l5.c --> l5.c)
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389 You know what *I* really hate? I hate it when I staple my lip to an
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390 anvil and throw it off the top of a 3 story bu
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392 output --> (l5.c --> l5.ba)
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393 You know what *I* really hate? I hate it when I staple my lip to an
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394 anvil and throw it off the top of a 3 story buildh
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395
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396 I am totally at a loss for an explanation of why the cipher text is different
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397 aside from the missing group. I'm even more confused by the fact that it
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398 decodes ok! Apparently, L5 doesn't do what I thought it did!
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399 ____04/01/87__________Leonard_JD 2446887.6811_________20:20:54_PST_________
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400 ps to Mike: $200 for the board is cheaper than a pc clone!
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402 That depends on how you look at it. There is value in the Sanyo, and you
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403 have to look at that as well. Is it worth it to put additional money
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404 into the machine and *still* not have a fully compatible computer,
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405 or is it cheaper (or at least a reasonable break even) to sell the Sanyo
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406 for what can be gotten out of it and use the money to buy a *real* clone.
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407 If I can get $400-$500 for the Sanyo I can use it towards the clone
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408 purchase. If you add the $200 that would also be spent on the adapter
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409 board then we have $600-$700 purchasing power towards a real clone.
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410 I would sell the Sanyo except that I can currently get more use out
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411 of it than the $400-$500 I could get out of it, and I don't have the
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412 additional money to offset the price differential.I would keep one
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413 Sanyo anyway since I need it to support the CL+'s that are out there.
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414 ****************************** CM ******************************
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415 tsl: Thanks for the concern. But life goes on and so do I.
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416 But then I always did run on and on and on and on and on and o......
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417 ************************************************************
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418 Milch: The DTR glitching I can fix so we can use a modem on the beast.
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419 The lost data because of the disk drive access time is another matter.
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420 The Sanyo just plain has a flakey disk drive settup. I could improve
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421 it a bit by rewritting the disk drive routines, but that would only
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422 drop the time down from 2 seconds to 1 second or so. It still is a
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423 pain, and that would be a lot of rewritting code for that. It also
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424 requires some hardware changes as the 2 second delay is built into
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425 the hardware. The best approach I think would be a RAM disk, but
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426 there isn't any money for the add on memory... sigh.....
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427 *********************************
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428 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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429 Mikey: Ooops. Knew I forgot something; RE does not echo the line to be
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430 replaced. I can fix that... but L'homme has already got a copy of what I
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431 have now. *sigh*.
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432 Re: drive access, anyone know what the address is for the floppy controller?
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433 There's gotta be a bit or two we could twiddle... but that's messy. How
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434 much extra memory do you have in the Sanyo? Maybe we could make do with
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435 a small ramdisk, and use it for temporaries...
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436 Re: level 5, yah, I know, I've seen the problem, and worked on it a little.
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437 Seems that what *I* want to do and what C thinks are slightly different,
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438 especially when EOF occurs. I should have a fix for it by next week. Maybe
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439 I can scrouge up a cheap copy of a C compiler for the XT...
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440 I'll write to bwdt when the revised source is available at
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441 percival in my login directory.
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442 Okay, should have fixed copy of the sources for you tomorrow... what an
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443 important meet this will be. Lots of things on the agenda-
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444 Harumph. Looks desolate up front. A bit of doorish magic should stir things
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445 up.
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446 +++++++++++ Milch ++++++++ April 1, 1987 at 11:pm ++++ 3 more days +++++
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447 So, Mike, how's the work coming? Is it coming at all? Getting anywhere with
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448 Baud detect? Hello?
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449 +++++++++++ Milch +++++++++ April 3, 1987 at 10:39pm +++ 1 hour, 21 minutes ++
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450 Actaully I haven't gotten anywhere at all on it yet, I was too zonked last
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451 night to get anything done. Things at work have taken a turn to making
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452 life more difficult. I was switched to working with MG on the project he was
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453 working on because the dead line got moved up to the first of May. So they
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454 are throwing another programmer at it to try to get it finished. Given
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455 that there is $2 million riding on the deal, and that translates to profit
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456 share, I have an interest in it getting out myself.
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457 I'm going to try to get a little work done on it this weekend, but I also
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458 have to read up on the instrument that I will be programming (since I don't
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459 know how it even works yet, let alone operate the thing), in addition to
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460 having to get an update to CL+ out this weekend as well (a 50 unit sale
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461 rides on that one). Can you say "pressure".... I knew you couldn't :-)-:
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462 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY **********************************
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