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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 *************************** INSTALLED: 4 JAN 86 ********************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ****************************************************************
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19
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20 He had been climbing for what seemed like forever. His poor equipment and
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21 the skis on his back made it difficult to move well. Finally, and incredibly,
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22 he discovered there was no more mountain before him. He stood there, looking
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23 out over the vast distances, the hazy blue horizon, the clouds like an ocean
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24 below him, and the purpose of this great endeavor - the pure white utouched
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25 snow spread out in every direction. Just waiting for one person to pass
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26 across it, leaving his mark, saying to everyone, "I was here first. This is
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27 MY mountain. Everything the rest of you do from here on is merely a reflection
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28 of what I have already done."
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29 He put his skis on, checked the bindings, then studied the surface before
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30 him. Satisfied at last with his plan, he pushed off, and began moving down the
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31 slope. Turning, turning, floating in the powder, floating in the ecstacy of
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32 being first. Suddenly as he passed across the snow hiding a crevasse, it gave
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33 way and swallowed him up, and he was never seen by mortal man again.
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34 From below, other skiers who shared his zeal for being first studied the
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35 mountain. There appeared to be a slight blemish near the very peak, but for
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36 all intents and purposes the snow was still intact, waiting the primal touch.
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37 +Dante-
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38
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39 I AGREE, TIME FOR A MAJOR POLITICAL DEBATE.
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40 SUBMITTED
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41 1)TIME TO GET EMOTIONS OUT OF GOVERMENT.WE NEED SOME SOUND BUSIN
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42 DECISIONS TO BE MADE
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43 WITH A MULTI TRILLION $ BUDGET THE USA
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44 IS ONE OF THE LARGET BUSINESS'S IN THE WORLD
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45 PEOPLE ARE IMPORTANT. HOWEVER HOW LONG CAN WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THINGS
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46 THAT GIVE NO RETURN OR REDEAMING SOCIAL VALUE?
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47 (SUCH AS COLLEGE STUDENTS?)(JUST KIDDING)
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48 RESPONSES?
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49 //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////THOR///////////////
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50 ///////////////////AS/////////////////////////////////////HECK//////////////
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51 ////////////////////////////////////////IF THIS DOESNT START A FIGHT
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52 NOTHING WILL/
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53 OFF
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54 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
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55 Destroyer: keep writing.
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56 Others: more soon.
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57 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu
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58 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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59 Destroyer: I disagree about your story becoming boring, but do agree that
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60 interest is waning. Wrapping it up would be a good idea.
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61 Please keep the slurs about college students and Commodores to a minimum,
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62 I am one and own the other. (First person who says that 64s should not own
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63 college students gets to wear the dunce cap and write five zillion times,
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64 'I shall not make fun of poor college students with Commodores.' It's gotten
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65 me THIS far, chum. Although I would like a new one... Amiga, mayhap? Anyone
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66 have a spare Amiga to give away?)
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67 Post Script; it seems, by looking at my words above, that I am still writing
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68 to the Destroyer when 'Please keep the slurs...' comes up. Not so, those
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69 comments are meant for others. My apologies.
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70 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++ 4 Jan 86, 1:50pm ++++++++++++++++
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71 apologies accepted i suppose. what is wrong with punks?.......
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72 **************************************************************************
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73
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74 WKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWKWK
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75
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76 __________________------------------|\/~~\/|------------------_________________
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77
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78 Give us all a break. Commodores belong in "Toys 'R' Us!!" TRASH-80 will rule
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79 the keys forever!
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80 Radical Slugslime
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81 \/~~\/
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82
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83
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84 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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85
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So much for the interesting political debates. It is a mark of those who
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86 debate, that their eventual debate comes down to a hackneyed argument of which
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87 computer is racially superior. Of course, I am no better, so here I go.
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88 It depresses me when movie reviewers dictate that a movie must either be
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89 good or bad. There is no fair, in movie reviews. And people seem to think
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90 the same thing of personal computers. Commodore are only a little less usefull
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91 than an Atari 800 and yet you will see the respective owners locked in mortal
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92 struggles to defend the honor of their own coomputers.
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93 That being cleared up, anyone what to debate the subject of groves?
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94
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95 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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96
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with thanks to the twilight zone - phj
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97 i love the twightlight zone but besides that.....
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98
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99 i wondered how long i would want to stay in this town. there where so
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100 many new things waiting to discover, the oppurtunites were great and
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101 he was here...a mystery guy in a leather jacket seen in "wheres the are
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102 " strange people around here"
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103
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104 forget it
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105 **********************************************************************
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106 What is going on here?????
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107 .
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108 It would seem that there's more bluster than anything else!
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109 _____________________________________
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110 but isn't bluster the funnest............
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111
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112 nah. they are all one line cutesies. i just despise one line cutesies!
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113 ***************************************************************************
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114 ______________________________JD 2446435.6028____________________________
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115 ################################################################
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116 THE SUBJECT OF GROVES IS ME !!!
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117
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118 ################################################################
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119 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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120 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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121 OFF
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122
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123 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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124 THIS BOARD MAKES LESS SENSE DAY AFTER DAY............WIE GEHTS ES INHEN?
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125 THE DAY WILL COME WHEN THE TRUTH SHALT BE DELIVERED UNTO THE POPULOUS,
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126 AND THEN ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE:
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127 BOOK OF JIM:CHAPTER 9:PAR 3:
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128 HEY, WHO IS THE BOARDER THEIF UP THERE?
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129 NOT THAT I CARE ANYWAY...........
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130 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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131 ::::::::::::::::::::......
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132 I LOOK A THE CLOCK, AND ALL I CAN SEE IS WORLD WAR 3,
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133 I TRY TO SLEEP AT NIGHT, BUT ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT IS WORLD WAR 3,
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134 I TRY TO LIVE LIFE, BUT ALL THERE IS GONNA BE IS WORLD WAR 3,
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135 ARMAGEDDON IS COMING, ARMAGEDDON IS SOON, DONT RUN AND HIDE,
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136 IT SPELLS ALL OF OUR DOOMS......
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137 (A VERY LOOSE TRANSLATION OF 'WWIII' BY THE MINUTEMAN)
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138 ::::::::::::::.........
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139 IS THAT ALL THERE IS?
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140 IS THAT ALL THERE IS?
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141 THEN LETS KEEP ON DANCING...
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142 BREAK OUT THE BOOZE
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143 IF THATS ALL THERE IS...
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144 /EXIT
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145
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146 1/04/86.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.002
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147
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148 Slipping through the quite streets, Miranda felt good. Finally,
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149 she was doing something on her own. She had never really been able to
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150 do anything alone before. She had spent most of her life in exile with
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151 her father on a lonely isle, but was always watched over by her father
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152 or one of his spirit-servants. She learned a lot about taking care of
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153 herself then, but she never felt like she had been tested. There were
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154 always the spirits around to make sure that she was never in danger.
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155 With their return to Milan, Miranda's world changed radically;
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156 suddenly she had to deal with hundreds of people and the busy activities
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157 of a major governmental city. To try to keep some semblance of the
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158 quiet isle, she kept to the confines of the home, but then she didn't
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159 have the room to roam that she despairately desired. To make up for it,
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160 she ventured into her father's library. There, Miranda had found a
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161 place to let her mind roam. Now it was again time for her body to roam
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162 though, and she was on her way to start her adventure.
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163 In the dark streets, Miranda saw not a soul. She knew that it
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164 wasn't safe for her to be out after dark, but she felt confident that
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165 her powers would keep her safe. After all, she'd practiced everything
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166 that she had learned. So busy was she at thinking of how safe she was,
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167 Miranda didn't even hear the two men behind her. She did see the stars
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168 explode in her head, though.
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169
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170 "Uuhn", Miranda said dizily a couple hours later. "Where am I?"
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171 "Ssshhhh!" Came the insistant answer.
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172 Looking around, Miranda saw many colors. She tried to rub her
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173 eyes to bring the colors into focus and found that her hands were tied
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174 behind her. Slowly, vision returned on its own, and the colors turned
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175 into an old man playing solitare. As more colors came together, Miranda
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176 found that she was in a small dirty room with several other young women,
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177 also tied, but all unconscious.
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178 "Who are you?" she asked the old man. He looked at her bleakly
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179 and shushed her again. "I said, who are you?" She whispered it this
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180 time.
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181 After a long empty stare, he said "I'm your guard."
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182 "Why am I here?"
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183 Another odd look. "You don't know?" She shook her head. "You
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184 are soon to become a representative of Milan to the harems of Arabia."
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185
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186 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu
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187 #$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$
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188
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189 One Long Saturday...
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190 (Part 6)
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191
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192 It was full dark by now. Jim had been driving around aimlessly for the last hour or so. His six passengers had
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193 been silent all this time, which was fine with him. He didn't feel too talkative at the moment himself. The whole world
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194 would soon be destroyed (Conquered and enslaved! Why couldn't he get that right?) and his attempts to prevent it had
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195 been completely futile. As far as Saturdays went, this one sucked.
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196 After more driving, Amogo finally spoke up. "This is the fourth time that we have passed this particular landmark.
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197 Where are you taking us?"
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198 "I don't know."
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199 Jim turned right instead of left at the stop and found himself coming up on a local resturant. He had been too
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200 busy to eat all day and his stomach suddenly realized that. He pulled into a spot in front of the door and got out, not
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201 caring if the aliens followed or not. Of course, they did, and Jim found himself holding the door for them without even
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202 thinking about it. It was about an hour before the Saturday rush was to start, and the place was almost empty. Good
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203 thing, as his entourage probably would have caused a panic. He took a nice, dark corner booth and the aliens crowded in
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204 with him, three on a side. Just one big happy family.
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205 The waiter showed up a few minutes later, a high-school kid with more pimples that brains. He stared at Jim's
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206 company for a full minute, growing steadily paler by the second. "Wh-wh-what are t-t-those?"
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207 Jim assumed a stern demeanor. "This," he said in his best lecture voice, pointing at the aliens, "is what happens
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208 when you take large amounts of controlled substances over a long period of time. You don't take drugs, do you,
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209 son?"
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210 "N-no sir!" the kid swallowed hard. "I just quit!"
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211 "Good for you!" Jim said. He sliped a menu out from under the waiter's arm (since he seemed rooted to the spot)
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212 and glanced through it. "Aw, hell, just gimme a large pepperoni pizza with the works and seven cokes." Then he put the
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213 menu back under the waiter's arm.
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214 After he left (rather hastily), Amogo spoke up again. "I'm afraid I have a confession to make. I told a slight
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215 mistruth about our mission here."
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216 "Oh, yeah?" Jim's interest had definitely been raised. "Then what are you here for?"
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217 "Well, in the past, we have discovered that to conquer a planet our greatest challenge lies not in the world's
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218 military might but in the populace. Some peoples can be amazinly stubborn and clever in the face of invaders. We were
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219 actually sent here to test the resourcefulness and ingenuity of an average human being, like yourself. This was to be
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220 the true guage by which we measured this planet's value for occupation."
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221 Now Jim knew how the waiter felt. It took him a moment to get his mouth working in synch with his brain again.
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222 "You-you mean all this time you knew I was trying to do you in?"
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223 "Of course. You appear to have badly underestimated our level of intelligence."
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224 "I'll... be... damned..." Jim wondered, rubbing his chin. "That's why you went along with me. You knew you'd be
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225 able to survive whatever I threw at you."
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226 "We hoped we would, anyway. We were to sacrifice ourselves, if necessary. Had we not returned, the invasion might
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227 have been postponed or cancelled. This planet would have been classified too dangerous to contact."
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228 Jim was quiet for a moment. He had been right all along, more than he knew. Of course, they had known what he
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229 would think, obviously. Not only were they smarter than he thought, they were a hell of a lot smarter than he was. "I
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230 suppose you've got some kinda special fate in mind for me for everything I did to you."
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231 "Well," Amogo said with a chilling matter-of-factness, "We do have something particular in mind for you..."
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232
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233 (To Be Concluded...)
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234
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235 #$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$# J.D. SILVERMAN $#$#$#$#$#$
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236 "i love the words you wrote to me
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237 but that was bloody yesterday
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238 i cant survive on what you send
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239 everytime you need a friend
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240
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241 i dont want to change the world
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242 im not looking for new england
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243 im just looking for another girl
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244
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245 i saw two shooting stars last night
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246 i wished on them but they were only satellites
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247 is it wrong to wish on space hardware
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248 i wish, i wish, i wish you'd care..."
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249
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250 BILLY BRAGG
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251
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252 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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253
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254 &'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&
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255
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256 The girls were gone and the mother was scooting off after them by the
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257 time her story was over.
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258 "Let mme get this straight, someone is going to maim your husband,
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259 maybe kill him, and you don't care?"
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260 "I care. I care about his will. If the old lump does die and his will
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261 leaves me destitute, I care," She was ice cold.
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262 "As long as he's alive and well, you are as rich as he is, that right?"
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263 "Essentially," Her look dripped icicles.
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264 "And I'm supposed to save him, and in doing so, save your purse,"
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265 "Essentially," The ice cracked, "Must you say that?"
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266
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267 He swallowed the last drops of his soup and dried his mouth with his
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268 napkin. Throwing it onto the table, he said yes.
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269 He strode over the carpet and then the marbe and was soon down the
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270 stairs. And was sooner across the street, on his noisy way throught the rainy
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271 air, to his office.
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272
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273 Whether this story is interesting or not dictates the continuance. What
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274 you have just read, will dictate whether the story is good enough to occupy the
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275 time and space of Backwater. Discern carefully, and remember my ego is not so
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276 easily bruiised.
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277
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278 &'&'&'&'&'M'U'R'D'E'R'&'&'&'&'&'C'O'N'S'E'Q'U'E'N'T'I'A'L'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&'&
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279
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280 Oh, c'mon, don't be so worried about what people will think. Give it a few
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281 entries, and THEN let us rip you apart, bit by bloody bit. Just write, dammit,
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282 and we'll let you know when the story is further along. Your writing is fine,
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283 just make it a nice story and everyone will be happy!
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284 Silverman: great going!
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285 Destroyer: Don't be peeved, it all seems like constructive criticsm to me!
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286 Delta: where are you?
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287 Emu: nice writing, but boy you're speling is lowsy. That's okey, though.
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288
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289
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290 .....
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291 The problem with government is that it IS a business, but it's not run like
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292 one. If everything were run like the free enterprise system, we'd be making a
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293 profit instead of being so in debt. That's why I voted for Reagan, warts and
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294 all. I felt he was so free enterprise oriented that he would try and steer
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295 government that way. Apparently, it's an impossible course to take.
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296
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297 But it's a simple fact that unless human beings are motivated by profit and/or
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298 reward for doing things right, they generally won't. That's why big government,
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299 government aid, etc. (i.e. the democrats who want big brother to take care
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300 of everyone) is so stupid and will never work. Profit is the only motive.
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301
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302 Furthermore, there always must be a lower class. All cannot be equal. Poverty
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303 Poverty that is, can never be eliminated, because the lowliest workers will
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304 always have an existence below the rest. But poverty is very subjective, how
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305 many starving Africans would give their left nut to live the life of one of
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306 our poverty-stricken peoples? We can only do so much, and there are those who
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307 will crawl under the lowest form of life as long as you let them.
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308
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309 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ THE RABBLE ROUSIN' RIGHTIE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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310
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311 $%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%
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312 BE IT KNOW THAT TO ANY THOUHTFUL PERSON THAT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE U.S.
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313 IS A VIOLATION OF YOUR
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314 &(MINE ) CIVIL RIGHTS TREATIES AND AGREEMENTS ENTERED INTO WITHOUT THE
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315 FULL CONSENT OF THE POPULANCE IS A CRIME AGAINST YOU AND YOURS.
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316 IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS PLEASE REPLY TO THIS BBS
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317 AN AMERICAN SAMUEL MARK
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318 $%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%
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319 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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320 What happened to Tripping on Books? Come back, it was fun|
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321
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322 Slugslime: Is that slugslime as in the secondary fuel for the Azure
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323 Crosstime Express? If so, welcome fellow fan||
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324
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325 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$[K][G]$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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326 Here we sit trying to figure out how to use this new contraption. Can anyone
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327 read this message?
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328 (((*)))(((*)))((( that all the boarder you get on this keyboard! )))((( ripple
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329 Juggler: Call.
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330 L'Homme : Yes I need to talk to you but would be easier voice. Ok?
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331 (((*)))(((*)))((( Ripple )))
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332
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333
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334 YET ANOTHER BOARDER YET ANOTHER BOARDER YET ANOTHER BOARDER
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335 "Mister MacHinery"
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336 (To the tune of "Doctor Livingston" -The Moody Blues)
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337
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338 Mr. MacHinery, having fun
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339 With your ciphers and pulse guns?
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340 You ran into the night.
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341 What did you find there?
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342 Did you stand awhile and glare?
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343 Did you kill anyone?
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344 "There were villians by the score
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345 In many places that I saw.
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346 I've still not found what I'm looking for."
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347
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348 Wassir, what's on your head?
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349 Are you still with the living-dead?
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350 The Helix is a threat.
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351 What will you find there?
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352 Will you stand awhile and stare?
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353 Will you kill anyone?
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354 "Calm your fears and doubts my friend.
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355 (Though you may get yours in the end;)
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356 I've still not found what I'm looking for."
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357
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358 LsP, have you found V yet?
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359 Or learn that he's in a jet?
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360 The world shall see some harm.
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361 What will you find there?
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362 Will you stand awhile and stare?
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363 Will you kill anyone?
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364 "Fool! Begone from my sight;
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365 There is much more to this plight!
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366 I've still not found what I'm looking for.
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367
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368 (Agents and operatives,
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369 friend or foe in any case,
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370 join arm-in-arm to do this jig.
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371 Do this now, without hesitation,
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372 as a pleasant celebration,
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373 chantin' chorus 'round Ian's desk!)
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374
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375 chorus: "We're all looking for someone,
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376 We're all looking for someone.
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377 We're all looking for someone,
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378 We're all looking for someone."
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379 YET ANOTHER BOARDER YET ANOTHER BOARDER YET ANOTHER BOARDER
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380
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381 BLUE -- CALL AND I WILL UPLOAD -- GREEN
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382
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383 ttttttt ttt t tt t t gee... i feel left out... t t t ttt tt tttt
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384
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385 Where are all the dreams we dreamed,
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386 That never came to pass?
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387 Where are all the hopes we had
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388 Which, in youth, we knew would last?
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389 What has happened to those words
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390 That we vowed to speak?
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391 We still have ever question;
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392 Yet the answers we still seek.
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393
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394 The dreams have died within our hearts,
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395 Growen cold and hard with time.
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396 The fire of our youth's great hopes
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397 Is smothered in the brine.
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398 And all the words we vowed to speak,
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399 When life was young and dear,
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400 Died in silence, for they were
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401 Words no one wished to hear.
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402
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403 %$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$$%$%$%$%$%$%$
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404 Someone use my boarder
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405 But they may have been
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406 here first. ??????????
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407 But that last entry @
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408 this boarder was not me
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409 so I did not use it again.
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410 %$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$] inmate 557 [%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%$%
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411 off
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412 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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413 AT LAST, AN OPERATING SYSTEM!(MIKEY YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN) ANYWAY, TO THE ABOVE
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414 ON GOVERNMENT: YOUR COMMENTS INDICATE A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OR THOUGHT ABOUT YOUR
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415 IDEAS. FIRST, THE GOVERNMENT IS RUN LIKE A BUSINESS, TRUE. IT IS ALSO LOSING
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416 MONEY AT A RATE THAT WOULD BANKRUPT AN ORDINARY BUSINESS. HOWEVER, THERE IS AN
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417 EXCELLENT REASON FOR THIS THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT THOSE IN
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418 CHARGE ARE COMPETENT. THIS IS BECAUSE WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PRODUCES IS
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419 / ARE PRODUCTS THAT NO PRIVATE BUSINESS COULD PRODUCE AND MAKE A PROFIT ON.
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420 TAKE THE POSTAL SYSTEM, WHY DON'T FEDERAL EXPRESS, OR ANY OF THE OTHER PRIVATE
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421 MAIL SERVICES ATTEMPT TO EXPAND INTO THE FIRST CLASS MARKET, IN A COMPETIVE
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422 MANNER? THE ANSWER IS THAT NO PRIVATE ORGANIZATION COULD PROVIDE THE SAME MAIL
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423 SERVICE OF THE SAME MAGNITUDE THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE, AND
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424 EXPECT TO MAKE A PROFIT. IF ONE COULD, IT LONG AGO WOULD HAVE BEEN FORMED, AND
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425 ESSENTIALLY PUT THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE OUT OF BUSINESS. THE SAME PRINCIPLE
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426 HOLDS TRUE FOR ROADS, DAMS, POWER LINES, MILITARY GEAR, AND SO ON. FURTHER,
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427 WHENEVER THE GOVERNMENT VENTURES INTO A SERVICE PROVIDING AREA IN WHICH IT
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428 COULD HOPE TO MAKE A SMALL PROFIT, IT IS QUICKLY CROWDED OUT OF THAT AREA BY
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429 PRIVATE INDUSTRY. SO, THE GOVERNMENT ENDS UP PROVIDING ALL THE PRODUCTS AND
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430 SERVICES THAT HALF THE PEOPLE WOULD AGREE WERE NEEDED, AND PRACTICALY NO ONE
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431 WOULD AGREE TO PAY FOR. IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THERE IS REALLY NO WAY YOU CAN
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432 ORGANIZE THE GOVERNMENT TO MAKE MONEY BETTER THAN PRIVATE INDUSTRY, SO IN A
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433 COMPETIVE FREE MARKET, THE CONCEPT OF AN EFFICIENT GOVERNMENT IS LUDICROUS. IF
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434 YOU WANT AN EFFICIENT GOVERNMENT, MOVE TO RUSSIA, THEY ARE VERY EFFICIENT AT
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435 DOING THE ONE THING THAT GOVERNMENTS CAN DO WELL; REPRESS THEIR CITIZENS.
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436 THERE ARE MANY THINGS WRONG WITH OUR GOVERNMENT, BUT INEFFICIENCY IS NOT ONE OF
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437 THEM. RATHER, IT IS THE PREVALING DEMAND OF SOMETHING FOR NOTHING THAT IS AT
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438 THE ROOT OR OUR BUDGET PROBLEMS. AND THERE IS ONLY TWO SOLUTIONS FOR THAT,
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439 RAISE TAXES, OR CUT BACK ON SERVICES, OR BOTH. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY.
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440 THE QUESTION REALLY IS WHICH WILL IT BE?+++++++++++++++++00000001TED+++++++++++
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441 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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442 Oh, God, not a political debate! That's even more boring than computors!
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443 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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444 Ahh, politics! Love it. Personally, I believe that the US government
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445 is much too efficient and productive. It produces laws, promulgates
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446 regulations, and issues paperwork at an astounding rate. Does anyone here
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447 have the date that more than 50% of the working population shifted from
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448 "productive" jobs to government?
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449 Alternatives? It's not original, but I favor a limit on the absolute
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450 number of laws a government is allowed. A bicameral legislature, of
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451 course -- one house writes the laws, while the other (the house of
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452 dunces) rejects those they can't understand. If they want a new law,
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453 they have to eliminate an old one, or combine it in an understandable way
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454 with an old one.
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455 Sigh, I wonder how many laws I've broken today?
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456 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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457 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
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458 To whomever: what did I misspell? Please enlighten me...
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459 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu
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460 political debate? ugh.-.-.-.-.
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461 GREEN - NO PROBLEM WILL DO - BLUE
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462 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ G $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4
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463 TED, How on earth can you say money can't be made from Power lines, dams,
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464 military gear, roads, etc? Of all the things you mentioned, only roads are
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465 or can be initiated and regulated by the government. All other goods are
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466 produced by profit-hungry private industry for use by citizens and regulation
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467 by the government. The government is the largest buyer of military goods, and
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468 their needs turn companies like Rockwell and Honeywell Avionics and MacDonnel
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469 Douglas into multi-billion dollar concerns. Power companies, who are under
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470 regulation by the government, are also very large and rich companies. Ever
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471 heard of Detroit Edison, PGE, and PPL?
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472 First and foremost, Government supplies citizens with items they can not
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473 easily supply themselves. These items are courts, military protection, public
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474 services (and that is now questionable), international monetary logistics
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475 (also questionable), social service, welfare, and democratic leadership.
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476 Unless a private concern can provide something like medicare and social
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477 security for the entire populace of the country, the government will be
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478 forced to handle it. Unless private industry can raise armies to defend
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479 national interests such as pipelines and oil fields, the government will
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480 have to do it. Until someone chas a better idea, government must continue
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481 administering laws and handing down punishment. There are some things that
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482 a society can not handle on its own without having a separate entity to
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||
483 administrate those tasks. This leaves out the profit motive debate entirely,
|
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484 but it is important to distinguish between private industry working for and
|
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485 with government from governmental pillars like Social Security and revenue
|
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486 collection. In every organized group of people as far back as history will
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487 take us, men and women have formed governments, and those governments have
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488 dealt with taxes and laws and the military and social need, just as ours
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489 does, and just as any future government will find itself doing.
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490 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ G $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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491 ATDT9,9,646xxxx
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492 CBBS NW - 300/1200/2400 baud. 24 Hours/day. System Operators Jim Willing and Bill Marx.
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493 Chuckle of the day...
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494
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495 You of course remember old Milt Famie? He was that sensational pitcher
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496 in the late forties. His first year out as a rookie saw him climb up the
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497 ladder, until at the end of the season, he was pitching in the world series.
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498
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499 Well, Milt had a method. He never told anyone, but it eventually came
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500 out in all the publicity around his downfall. (More on that later). Anyway,
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501 it was the second game of the series. The first had been a no-hitter. Quite
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502 a feat for a rookie. The second game went the same, no hits, no runs, etc.
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503
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||
504 This remarkable record continued right up to the fourth game. This
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505 would be it. The first time in history... a no-hitter series. The pressure
|
||
506 was on. The fans were ecstatic, and the opponents (no one remembers their
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507 name now) were at their peak, ready to stop this deadly trend. Now we can
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||
508 tell of Milt's secret... He drank beer.
|
||
509
|
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510 Every time he went to the mound, he would secret a bottle of beer
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511 in his mitt. Whenever he appeared to be wiping the sweat from his brow, he
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512 was actually sipping a few suds. No one knew...yet.
|
||
513
|
||
514 The top of the ninth came around, and so far the opponents hadn't had
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515 a hit. Then came the first pitch of the inning. A ball. The second was a ball.
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516 The third, and finally the fourth pitches were all balls. The crowd was in a
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||
517 frenzy. A base was taken by the opponents for the first time in the series.
|
||
518 The pressure was even more severe. The second batter came up to the plate.
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519 The pitch... and it's a ball too. The second batter eventually walked to
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||
520 first. The manager called a timeout. Milt came in, and got a pep talk. He
|
||
521 went out again, but... with another bottle of cold brew. He was worried, and
|
||
522 he needed it now more than ever.
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||
523
|
||
524 Well, the third batter was walked too. Now the bases were loaded. The
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||
525 next batter came up to the plate. The crowd hushed.... Milt sweated.... wound
|
||
526 up.... and threw. A hit! No, a home run.... four runs in one pitch.... A
|
||
527 Grand slam.... the no-hitter series was now unattainable. The crowd rose as
|
||
528 one and booooooooooed.
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||
529
|
||
530 The end came fast. The other team wgn that game, and because Milt's
|
||
531 team was morally wiped out, they lost the next three games and the series.
|
||
532 At the end, the truth came out, and Mylt was banished forever from playing
|
||
533 professional baseball.
|
||
534
|
||
535 But the beer he drank lives on in history, as "The beer that made
|
||
536 Milt Famie walk us!"
|
||
537
|
||
538 Chuckle of the day...
|
||
539
|
||
540 NOW IS IT MYLT OR MILT? MILT!
|
||
541 *%_@*)_@#*%@_%*_@)%*_)%*!)+%*!_%*@#_%*_)%*@_%*!_)%*_!)%*@_@_^&@_)^&@_)^*^_@^*^_*@_*^@_#^*@_)^*#$_^*#$^&*#)_*@)_%*@#)_%*
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||
542 Mikey: The address of the Sanyo owner is: ANNE I. McKenrick, 5733 SE King Road, Milwaukie, OR 97222. If you could send her
|
||
543 an updated disk I would appreciate it. I assume she is a paying customer. I have a Turbo 2.0 version of Terror that needs to
|
||
544 be tested on the Sanyo under DOS 1.25. I will bring it along when I next visit USD.
|
||
545 YET ANOTHER BOARDER: Thanks, you made my day.
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||
546 Leonard: We need to talk archives. Please check Le Nerd for latest listing.
|
||
547 *_)%#*_%)*@#_)%*#@_)%*@_)%*@#_)*%@#_^* L'homme sans Parity $*#_@*_%@)_#*_)*%)#%_)*%_@)#&)_@#*%@)_&@_#)&_)@#^*_%&@#_%&@#
|
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548 IS Messenger stillup?
|
||
549 Ted
|
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550 There is nothing more pitiful than some
|
||
551 one who cries "your comments indicate a lack of knowledge" when their own
|
||
552 comments and apparent knowledge are far from expert. Keep it on the amatuer
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||
553 level Ted, because you're far from an expert yourself.
|
||
554 As the other gentleman pointed out, often services ARE farmed out to private
|
||
555 companies because the government is far too inefficient to do them on their own.
|
||
556 And you ask why no one will do the post office's job? Simple! The government
|
||
557 won't let them! You wouldn't believe the hassle UPS had and has to go through
|
||
558 just to compete with the post office. And anyone who has ever used both systems,
|
||
559 as I have (extensively), will tell you that UPS runs circles around the post
|
||
560 office. Why? Free enterprise, profit motive, you can be fired for screwing up,
|
||
561 etc. Other in-city delivery companies have attempted to deliver mail, only to
|
||
562 be halted by the postal system!
|
||
563 Now, I'm not going to say we should eliminate the postal system altogether, just
|
||
564 make it more free enterprise oriented, as perhaps it already is more than most
|
||
565 government systems. But take defense. Billions of dollars wasted. Just plain
|
||
566 wasted. Why? There's no incentive to make money, each department is in fact
|
||
567 obliged to SPEND all it gets, or else it might not get as much next year! So
|
||
568 why not make each department its own profit center, with rewards going to the
|
||
569 departments with the most money left over AND the proper functioning equipment
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||
570 in stock and working?
|
||
571
|
||
572 I'm not saying that government has no place, but it cannot EVER run efficiently
|
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573 unless there is incentive (or threat of punishment... speaking of which, do you
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||
574 know how hard it is to fire a government employee? You might as well call up the
|
||
575 white house and ask to talk to the Prez as get one of those guys fired). There
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||
576 may obviously be some areas where government simply has to take taxes and spend
|
||
577 them, but almost without fail incentive systems could be implemented in any
|
||
578 given area and make it more efficient.
|
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579
|
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580 And to the law guy... I agree totally. As President Reagan once said in a speech
|
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581 in Anaheim about ten years ago... "There oughta be a law against saying 'there
|
||
582 oughta be a law...' "
|
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583
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584 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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585 Emu: despairately/desperately; dizily/dizzily; insistant/insistent; solitare/
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586 solitaire.
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587 Picky picky to be sure, but I just hate to see such fine writing even the
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588 slightest bit marred by bad spellings, especially when they're perhaps bigger
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589 words than maybe you have command of. Anyway, it was just a small note, some-
|
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590 thing we should be aware of, and in no way reflects on my enjoyment of the
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591 story; it's live a smooth glass ball with a small chip in it... that may be all
|
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592 you notice but it's not fair to the rest of the craftsmanship.
|
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593 Keep up the good work my good man!
|
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594
|
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595 Mr. Picky
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596
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597 To the movie critic critic:
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598 I totally agree, but not only do they try and paint them black and white, they
|
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599 usually paint them black. They're sooo critical of everything, instead of f
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600 just trying to be complimentary. I hatee 'em.....
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601
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602 ***********************************************
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603 I say that after bitching about a small thing like spelling...... think before
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604 typing eh?
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605 ********************************************************************
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606 1/6/86 `,`,`,` 5:58 `,`,`,`
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607 The one thing that I get a good laugh at is how secretive our
|
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608 government is supposed to be! Give me a break. It is so huge and hire
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609 our to so many private contractors it would be impossible to keep a
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610 secret from getting out. And now they are so hard on the few that ar
|
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611 are caught for selling out secrets to other countries. One more thing,
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612 are we still keeping track of who is getting secrets and what country
|
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613 is getting all of the weapons? I didn't think so.
|
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614 Not to change the subject but what is the purpose of the US giving
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615 out so many military hardware & knowlage? We shouldn't be worried about
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616 other coutries, we are being our worst enemy!
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617 1/6/86 `,`,`,` 6:04 `,`,`,`
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618 So, enter some gay bbs numbers, already!
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619 ___________________________________________________________________________
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620 Piper: Aha! another Anvil fan... I remeber that story well...
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621 ______________________Leonard_JD 2446437.6700____________________________
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622 menonotmenonotmenonotmenonotmenonotmenonotmenonotmenonotmenonot
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623 First, let me say you all sound like malcontents trying to
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624 see who can be most creative about it, Second, a lot of your
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625 points are right but you slide opinions in where they should
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626 not be, Third, this is where your conclusions become almost
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627 unfathomable.
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628 Since I am a student devoted to political science, I have
|
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629 absolutely no space left, I'll change my major, see you later.
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