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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ******************** INSTALLED: 12 NOV 84 **************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ************************************************************
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19
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20 *********************************************************************:
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21 L'homme: Added input; The problem with file control is your added
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22 Random file control in crime. sub works fine on my basica on the H150
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23 Once I take out the Random file control, Crime works on the Z150 too.
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24 Other things. The minute you say COLOR in the Sanyo basic, it switches
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25 to COLOR mode which is different then BW mode. Probably the simplest
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26 thing to do is to ask if your color first thing, and if not disable
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27 the color cmds. Problem: Sanyo basic requires that you give the value
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28 in a locate instruction. (LOC ,,1 is not valid.) Also, the POS cmd does
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29 not have a value tag. (I.E. 'POS' not 'POS(0)'. There are other minor
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30 differences, but these are the main ones that prevent it from running.
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31 Forget what I saidd about the IF's, that was a mistaken identity prob.
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32 (The reason for the color problem on the Sanyo, is that the minute
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33 you select color, it goes to white characters (green is normal) and when
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34 the sanyo is in white, it causes a BW monitor to flash on and off.
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35 REAL fun trying to read.) The other weird thing is the way you save a
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36 protected file SAVE "filename",Q They use 'P' to generate a normal
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37 file, and 'A' to generate an ascii file. Lord only knows why they decided
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38 to use 'Q', since it does the same thing if you add the 'P' or nothing.
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39 ************************* CISTOP MIKEY *********************************
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40
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41 ################################################################
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42 The Innkeeper was shaken out of his stance at the door by the
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43 shout from PAM to come join her in a Brandy. Grabing a bottle off
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44 of the rack as he went by, he casually wandered over to PAM's table
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45 at a sedate 50 miles per hour. Bowing over her hand, he exclaimed
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46 "Welcome back! I was beginning to think you would never return!
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47 I hope your stay will be long and enjoyable." Then filling her
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48 glass and one for himself, he shouted, "A toast! To PAM! Adventurer
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49 supreme!"
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50 sitting down, he looked sheepishly at PAM. "Sorry, I guess I got a
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51 bit carried away there, it is good to have you back though. Do you plan
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52 to stay awhile?"
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53 ####################### The Innkeeper ############################
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54 )_*@#_)*%@#_)*%_@)#*%+@#%+@#*%@#*%+@#(%@*#%*@%*@#%*@_%@_^&$%_&_)*^#$_*^_*^@*^_$&^)_#^_#)$^_#$)^*#$_)$&$%_)*#$_)^*#$_^*
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55 Mikey : Maybe the best thing for me to do is come to USD and do the editing right on a Sanyo. That way I can see
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56 immediate results for my changes. I don't see too many problems yet, except for implied parameters in the LOCATE statement.
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57 Could be a bit of a hack to fix that. The other stuff sounds like simple statement changes.
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58 Leonard : Let's go to a good theater. Make that either Clackamas (fer sher at the mall), or Rose Moyer. I don't care
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59 really. Rose Moyer is closer, but Clack has more teeny boppers. We should try for opening night. More excitement,
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60 more laughs, wilder crowd, etc.
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61 Voyeur : See above, plus, your NET skills must be slipping. What kind of spy are you/joshua anyway? As your 'friend'
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62 Petrov for some help. Sigh, I probably won't be able to see him hanging around anymore either. Life is so unfair!
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63 *_#)*_)@%_)*%_)^&$%_)&*$%_)*^#$_)^* L'homme sans Parity %*_@#)%*@_#)%*_)*%_%+!%_@#)*%@_#)*%_@)*%@_#%_@#%_@)*%@_#*%_@%@#
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64 **********************************************************
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65 GEE GOLLY WHISS. ISN'T TODAY THE 12TH? WHAT HAPPENED TO
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66 ALL THAT GOOD READING MATERIAL THAT WAS ON THE ORIG
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67 10TH DISK? JUST CURIOUS ACTUALLY, MAYBE (MICKY?) FORGOT
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68 TO CHANGE DATE? WHO KNOWS, WHO CARES?, THE ANSWER TO THIS
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69 AND MUCH MORE....
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70 ****************************kathy**************************
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71 UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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72 The vastness and glittering chill of the Diamond Valley were becoming more
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73 oppressive. As we faced the obdurate machine and I considered the web of
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74 forces opposing us I realized that we were a naive and hopelessly ideal-
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75 istic band in a world of clever, ruthless, and hostile beings. It occurred
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76 to me that even if we solved the puzzle, it could be a trap. Indeed, we
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77 had no idea what to do even if we completed the necklace. What if the power
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78 it generated was not on our side? Earlier I had told Friar Mossback that
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79 we were in a real-life version of Bambi Meets Godzilla.
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80 "Be serene. We will be fine."
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81 "We will be steamrollered."
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82 "You think too much of other forces, of this machine. Our minds are strong.
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83 "Theirs are stronger."
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84 "We cannot be resisted."
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85 "They'll squush us like bugs."
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86 Friar Mossback was highly amused by this interchange and remained calm and
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87 alert. He was actively looking forward to a bout with the machine.
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88 So I was startled when he slumped to the glassy ground and lay without stir-
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89 ring. Piper and I rushed to him--there was no sign of life, his color was
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90 drained, the face still serene. The one who had no fear had met the fate we
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91 all feared. The Piper, having no instrument, hummed a dirge and we con-
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92 sidered magical ways of reviving or preserving the body. Many suggestions,
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93 all dangerous. So we wait and struggle with the code.
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94 L'homme claims to have broken it, but won't divulge it so I suspect this is
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95 merely bravado. A dreary time in a bleak land.
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96 UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Lila UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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97 IMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM;
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98 : :
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99 : :
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100 : :
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101 : :
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102 HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM<
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103 ***************************************************************************
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104 har har Yuk Yuk, squished like bugs!! I like that!
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105 The stuff from the other disk can be
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106 read(at least untill this disk is
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107 swaped)by typing "db" at the promt.
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108 -------------------------------Mad Max
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109 <+|+> {109} 11130918
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110
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111 <(:========================================================:)>
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112 George: Give me a call or leave me a message. Haven't been able
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113 to get ahold of anybody. I called you at work but the new
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114 receptionist said she had never heard of you. Tried to get
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115 ahold of Carrol, Mike and Bob but can't track them down either.
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116 I'm going to try to locate John now but I'm getting discouraged.
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117 I think your story about the guys in suits is a bit far
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118 fetched. I want to go with you guys on your next trip and try
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119 out whatever you've been smokin'. Get a message to me as soon
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120 as you can. While your at it, get that receptionist
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121 straightened out.
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122 Bill
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123 <(:=====================================================:)>
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124
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125
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126 %%%%%%%%%%WELL THERE SEEMS TO BE SEVERAL LINES MISSING ----- LIKE 118,119
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127 IN THE MESSAGE ABOVE ---- AND LINES 128,167 --- ARE THEY LOST ?
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128 I AM A NEW USER AND I AM NOT FAMILER WITH WITH THIS SYSTEMM ####WILL##########
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129 Is the next PorSci meeting this saturday?
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130
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131 Hmm, looks like someone ate part of the last message. Well, anyway, for those
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132 of you who don't know, Rome going down next Monday. It might be moving some-
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133 where else, but who knows. Anyway, for the interesting part, I'm thinking of
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134 writing my own board that is like BWMS except that it would have a password
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135 system (no endorsement, though) and there would be dividers between messages
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136 saying who wrote it and when. Do you people think that that would be a good
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137 idea, or do you think that we don't need another Backwater-type board. I would
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138 appreciate input from BWMS patrons. Thanks.
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139 <(::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Walrus:)>
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140 [=---------------------------------------------------------------=]
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141 Walrus - Another BWMS sounds like a good idea. I'm asuming that
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142 it would take the place of rome? Still in L.O. I do think
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143 it would be nice but there will still be your local yokols
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144 (jerks) that would call and try to crash it or just write
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145 their usual bad things. But with the password system and
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146 the time and who wrote the message you wouldn't have any
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147 problem with obscene language. (sorry, thinking to myself)
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148 That does sound good.
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149 What would be the name of it? Any ideas?
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150
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151 [=----------------------------Red-Fox----------------------------=]
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152 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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153 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~From Billy The Kid~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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154 Does anyone out there know of any AE lines here in Portland? it would be nice...
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155 also, is there any other boards around here?? I just came to oregon about two
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156 months ago from Hawaii, so if anyone could give me any numbers, it would be
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157 great,. Thanks.....
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158
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159 Billy The Kid
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160
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161 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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162 L'homme: Rose Moyer sounds good. By the way, while you may have deciphered
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163 that inscription, you still flunked cCryptography 1.01. NONE of the NET ciphers
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164 have been "simple substitution ciphers"! They have all been poly-alphabetic
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165 ciphers. (A variant form of Beaufort cipher, I believe?)
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166 I tried all 26 alpha shift ciphers on the inscription with no luck. Any hints?
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167 Alex-- HELP!
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168 ________________________________Leonard________________________________________
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169 ::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::11/13:::::::::::::::18:47:::::::::O O:::::::::
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170 Leonard: glad to see someone else is having difficulties with that
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171 'simple shift' cipher. I tried all the NET codes I know, plus all 26 shifts,
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172 plus a few other odds & ends. I think L'homme is BSing us, although I
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173 have no doubt about Alex's abilities.
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174 All: I do believe I detect an interesting Capricorn 1 (Robert Walden [Joe Rossi])
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175 type story developing between George & Bill. Somewhat more subtle than
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176 the usual story. Of course, if I'm wrong, then there seems to be something
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177 even more interesting going on.
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178 ::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::
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179 P.S. yes, PorSFiS is this Saturday. 2 PM, Multnomah County Library downtown.
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180 *************************************************************:
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181 It appears that someone out there is intent on destroying others
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182 messages, so I guess it is back to enter only again. Sorry,
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183 it is such a shame that the immature actions of a few have
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184 to hurt the whole.
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185 I replaced my own, (Innkeeper), but I'm afraid the others are lost.
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186 If you downloaded it, I suggest you do so again. (Such as the entry
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187 by Tarn who seems to have had the misfortune of having his message
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188 deleted twice. Sorry, for the inconvenience, at least enter only will
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189 prevent any further wholesale destruction. (I wonder who dislikes
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190 Tarn to the point of destroying his message twice?!) What have you
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191 done to deserve that Tarn? Got somebody mad on another BBS?
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192 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY **********************************
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193 P.S. L'homme: I thought you were going to call today?
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194
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195 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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196 Those of you working on cipher, you're trying too hard.
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197 Alex; it was not meant to really warp the minds of those solving it- just twist a little. As you can see from the
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198 other messages, it has succeeded. If you want a REAL challenge for you cryptoanalysists out there, I can oblige, just
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199 say the word.
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200 L'homme; I can't thank you enough for that printout, I'm working on the computer end and Mike is working on the disk
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201 drive end. I'm glad to help, just come by again. Oh, got a whole slew of info on financial aid for colleges today,
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202 even an application for state colleges... I'm drowning in a sea of paper.
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203 ++++++++++++++++++++++
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204 I had found my way cautiously to the Keystone, entered, then exited the room toward the Sapphire Valley side. A short
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205 walk to my door... but what is this? A glow from inside? I entered to investigate.
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206 Milchar's body was lying on the bed as it was before, but an unearthly glow emanated from it now- the light that
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207 resulted from a clash of energy deep within him. I stepped back, not knowing what to do. The argentium I was holding,
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208 however, did know.
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209 The bit of rock I had carried here flew through the air, landing quite near Milchar's head. Another glow, silvery in
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210 color, began to grow and envelop him. The auras about him clashed for a moment... the dampening field was clearly
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211 visible now, a sphere of maroon color being attacked by the silver. Abruptly, the field began to fill with a strange
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212 white "substance", filling it entirely. The argent aura smote at the bubble, and the white stuff surely pressed from
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213 within- for the bubble burst, showering the room with a brilliant display of color as it faded into non-existance.
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214 Odd... the argentium was gone too. Oh, and Milchar was waking up.
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215 ++++++++++++++++++++
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216 One last thought- I have heard apologies from the management of Z100 all evening now, about something that the morning
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217 zoo had said this morning. Anyone know what it was, or why it was so offensive? I find it hard to believe.
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218 ++++++++++++ Milchar & Novar ++++++++++++++++++++++ 10:46 on 11/13/84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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219 If you find out, let me know also...
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220 ------------------------------------MM
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221 ########################################################################
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222 e Innkeeper was busy cleaning some tables in the Inn, When he heard a
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223 Screeching painful roar from outside the Inn. Followed immediately by a
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224 screem of great pain from his horse. Rushing outside, he found his poor
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225 steed laying on the ground with a gapping slash extending from the front
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226 shoulder to the rear haunch. Nearby stood a giant leaf eater casually
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227 munching on a pile of newly fallen leaves, blood still dripping from his
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228 claws.The Innkeeper was quit shaken by this unexpected attack on his
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229 faithful mount, but dutifully did what he must to insure the survival and
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230 hopeful restoration of the poor beast. "Don't worry ol' fellow, we'll get
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231 you fixed up as good as new in no time." Why did this have to happen now? I
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232 barely got him broken in, and already he is being attacked by monsterous
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233 beasts. I know the doc can fix him up so that no one will even know he had
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234 been hurt, but I will know, and so will my faithful steed, And what am I
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235 todo while he's healing? Arghhhh! Why me??!!
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236 ######################## The Innkeeper ##################################
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237 HELP
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238 enter
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239 ***********************************************************************
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240
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241 Ontho has slowed the disk for observation speed, as they approach the
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242 island. Leo looks down skeptically, "how are we going to find anything
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243 in this desolate place?" as she speaks a red flash is seen on the ground
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244 about 3 miles away. Ontho zooms in to take a look. A large crevasse is
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245 opening in the barren wasteland. Steam rises and molten lava seems to
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246 be moving deep in the crack. A vehicle can be seen speeding away for the
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247 flash site. Ontho moves the disk in closer to the racing object.
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248 Leo raises the trident and shouts " Stop or be destroyed!" the small
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249 craft doesn't slow one bit, but rather makes a futile attempt to escape.
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250 It burries itself into the tundra so that about 95% is covered (kind of
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251 like an ostridge) "Pow Pow" Ontho buzzes which in any language means
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252 "let em have it!" Leo raises the trident and her head and chants " Nuptune
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253 awake, Nuptune awake". A strange light leaps from the trident and plunges
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254 into the earth near where the vehicle is buried. The ground around the
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255 vehicle vaporizes and leaves in int he open and quite intact. "Set it down
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256 Ontho, they won't we going anywhere" Ontho hovers the disk about 2 feet
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257 off the ground and Leo steps off, trident in one hand (pistol in the other
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258 remember plan b...) and walks towards the craft. It is not unlike the
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259 disks they have grown acustomed to, but this seemed like an older model
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260 with a protective cover. Which makes a lot more sense in this climate.
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261 ************************kathy*************************************************
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262 Kathy, you did not answer my request for information. Are you a solo, or
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263 would you like some partners?
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264 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
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265 Mikey - People should be shot for such actions. Or at least have pins
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266 3-21 hooked directly to 240V ac.
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267
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268 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
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269
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270 It was peaceful. My mind worked at getting my body up again. I realised
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271 that I had no body, and no real physical sensation. An odd feeling for a
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272 person not used to having O.B.E.s, but not unpleasant. I could here
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273 the soft chorus of birds singing in the background. Well, mot hear exactly,
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274 but more feel. I wonder what has happened to my companions. "Do not worry,
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275 they are safe." A voice, very kind, came into my consciousness. "That is
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276 well.", I thought back. "Can you read all my thoughts, or is there something
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277 I need to do."
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278 "I can read all of your thoughts, but I try to not invade your soul to that
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279 extent.", said the voice.
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280 "May I ask who you are ?"
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281 "You know me as "
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282 "As who ?, I missed that."
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283 "A label is not important. It is merely a superficial device. It is
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284 sufficient that you know me now."
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285 "Am I dead, are you God ?"
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286 "No, and yes. But then, are you not also God ?"
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287 "I am merely a humble Friar."
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288 "You are one of the supreme beings of all creation."
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289 "I do not understand."
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290 "Nor do I, but truth does not need understanding, it merely is."
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291 "Can I go back and help my friends ?"
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292 "If you go back to help your friends, you will prevent them from finding their
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293 own truths. That would not be helping them."
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294 "I do understand." I thought a little longer. "If I am a supreme being, are
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295 you above that ?"
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296 "No," said the voice, "I have merely been enlightened about the truth. I do
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297 not even pretend to understand all that I know, I merely know it."
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298 "Do you know the purpose of the necklace ?"
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299 "No, and yes, again. I know the answer to your question, I just have not
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300 discovered that I know it. You have the same knowing, as do all of your
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301 friends. Truth is not created, it is."
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302 "May I watch the progress of my friends ?"
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303 "Answer that for yourself."
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304 "I know the truth, and that is the reason for the necklace, and the power
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305 behind it, is Truth."
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306 "That is true also."
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307 I decided to watch my friends, and held an image of the last place I saw them
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308 in my mind. I watched the puzzled looks of some, and smug complacency of
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309 others. I saw the coming change in reality, and wanted to warn them, but
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310 I saw also that they would not learn truth if they were warned. I asked the
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311 voice, "Are you seeing this, do you know what is about to occur ?"
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312 "Even as you do."
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313 We waited.
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314
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315 Friar Mossback (Just the body is gone.)
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316 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
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317 Sorry about the typing and misspelling. A thousand curses on the twits who
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318 caused enter only.
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319 *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
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320
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321 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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322 Mez - I would be curious to hear your analysis of the election landslide,
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323 (Although I am not sure it was a real Landslide in other than Electoral
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324 votes) and the subsequent events surrounding Nicaragua.
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325
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326 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$ laissez-faire $^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
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327
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328 <(:=======================================================:)>
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329 Opus: George still seems to be missing and I'm still trying to
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330 track him down. You said you had a similar experience. It
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331 occured to me that perhaps you might have some clue as to what
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332 happened to him. I'd appreciate any insight into this mystery
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333 you might have.
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334
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335 I tried to contact you through Portland Atari but am not a
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336 member so couldn' leave a message. Is it a mere coincidence
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337 that you use the same line length as La homme Sans Parity?
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338
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339 Bill Broonzy
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340 <(:===================================================:)>
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341
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342 <<:****************************************************:>>
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343 It's an open adventure. Have at it if you will. Grand D.
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344 <<:****************************************************:>>
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346 CRYPTOGRAPHY 95
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347 Lesson 1.
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348 Within the word based alphabetic family of codes there are but two
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349 alternatives to encipherment. One is monoalphabetic the other polyalphabetic.
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350 Given these two possible solutions, the type of method used can easily be
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351 determined by a frequency count of the letters. If the frequency of occurance
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352 is spread evenly across the 26 possible characters then the method will
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353 probably be polyalphabetic. The converse will be true in the case of
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354 monoalphabetism.
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355 On examination of this particular code we find a sharp pattern
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356 develop. ( I will leave it to you to do the actual analysis ).
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357 In the english language the frequency of the letters are as follows;
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358 Letter % ! Letter %
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359 E 13 ! T 9
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360 N 8 ! R 7
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361 O 7 ! A 7
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362 I 7 ! S 6
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363 D 4 ! L 3
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364 The frequency of the remainder would not be of statistical value
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365 given this small a sampling. An error of +\- 3% is not uncommon.
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366 If the ciphertext conforms to the normal distribution of letters in the
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367 english language then we are dealing with an arrangement problem. If not then
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368 the alphabet has been shifted or scrambled in addition to being misarranged.
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369 Now that you have completed the analysis, the next phase is to factor
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370 the number of characters. This is done to provide the boundaries of the code.
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371 ( Again both letter count & factoring is left to you ).
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372 The next phase, is the grouping of the code a factor of its length ?
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373 That may or may not be significant. Assuming that it is ( at least initially )
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374 what are the possible combinations using the grouping length as the basis ?
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375 ( ie. halfing or doubling it ). Are these also factors of the total letter
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376 count ?. Using the various factor combinations whose product equals the letter
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377 count I leave it to you to solve the cipher. As Brown Corpus says
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378 " Remember the Matrix "
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379
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380 Milch,
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381 I am always up for a good cipher, provided its not a one-off pad,
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382 Army tranpostition ( whose solution depends soley on volume ), DES or RSA
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383 public key. Keep it within the scope of an amateur...
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384
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385 DJJ- Did you recently change from a FSLIC to a FDIC ?
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386
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387 Leonard,
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388 The man who first used polyalphabetics was Leon Alberti in 1465 but
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389 it was Blaise de Vigenere that popularized its use in the 15 century.
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390 Beaufort developed a variation in 1857 which is virtually the inverse
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391 function of the original cipher used by Alberti thus the Beaufort variant.
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392 He was the same man that brought us the Beaufort scale of wind for the sea.
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393
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394 ::::::::::::Alex::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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395
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396 off
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397
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398 ma 76
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399 Alex: Unfortunately, the NET's Cryptography department was hard hit by a
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400 disk crash. Thus, we are re-writing our "tools". Even though you use a
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401 different machine, I'd LOVE to have copies of YOUR programs.
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402 Ian MacHinery
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403 RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
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404
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405
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406
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407
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408 ...........................................................................
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409 . .
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410 . This takes getting used to, but it's actually easier than it looks .
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411 . Now if only Quasimoto would quit telling me about the right .
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412 . parameter ---> (beep,beep) .
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413 .......................................... Michael Sondargaard ............
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414
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415
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416
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417 BEEP?
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418
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419
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420 IF YOU SAY SO...
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421 HI ALL YOU NEATGUYS AND YOU ARE NEATGUYS AREN'T YOU???
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422 GOOD...BECAUSE I LIKE NEATGUYS THAT ARE NEATGUYS...SO
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423 IF YOU ARE A NEATGUY THEN YOU GOTTA BE A REAL NEATGUY
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424 SO SEE ALL YOU NEATGUYS LATER......
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425 ** THE NEATGUY **
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426 ** OF NEATGUYS **
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427
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428 ###########################################################
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429 The Innkeeper went from one place to another trying to find
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430 someone who could heal his horse properly. Either they
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431 were indifferent, or they could not do it. Finally, he settled
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432 on a mending place in the middle of the nearby village
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433 called "the gentlemen", as they at least seemed to treat him
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434 and his poor steed with some measure of respect and goodwill.
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435 They indicated that surgery would begin next week, and take
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436 all week for full recovery. In the mean time, the Innkeeper
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437 must satisfy his travel needs with a rent-a-pony substitute.
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438 Sigh, I hope it doesn't take too long. It just isn't the
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439 same without him. Get well soon beloved friend.
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440 ####################### The Innkeeper ######################
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441 BILL,
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442 NO COINCIDENCE,I just uuse 38 because the collr tv im using has a slight
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443 overscan that 38 coloms takes care of.
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444 t
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445 To get on the pac just set up a password no membership is neede.
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446 As for your friend George my expirence was slightly diff. i only observed
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447 the men from a distence, they kept enter and leaving an area of the woods
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448 that was completly blocked from veiw. I have no idea what could have happene
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449 to george other than maybe he and his friends got taken away. All i have
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450 to say is continu to try to contact him. you may find out something very
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451 interesting.
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452 Please reply on the pac i very rarely look at this system.
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453 opus
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454 off
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455 exit
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456 I think it was control C.
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457 maybe?
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458 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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459 Ahhh, back to 80 columns. L'homme, If you're interested I have a term
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460 program for the 64 that supports 40/80 columns and is meant to be as
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461 close to a DEC terminal as possible. I even have docs for it, if you
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462 can believe that. The only reason I don't use it regularly is because
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463 it doesn't support autodial.
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464 Alex; Quite good, and complete. The beginning stages you outlined I used
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465 for the NET code, and it worked quite nicely. However, you left out a
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466 major factor in the solving of a good many codes: good luck. It helps
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467 more than you might think. I shall see if I can whip up a code of
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468 the appropriate difficulty for you. Nothing too hard, eh? O.K.
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469 All else; waiting for more people to solve the code. Alex for sure has,
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470 and I feel L'homme gained a good many clues from his visit to my abode to
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471 solve it. Read Alex's lesson above closely, he comes very close to doing
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472 it all himself. I shall check in again about tomorrow morning, if possible.
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473 ++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar 07:20 on 11/14/84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
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474 TO:JASON H.
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475 SUB:YOUR ENTERIES.
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476 FROM:THE NEATGUY.
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477 Stop those stupid enteries about the neatguys ok.
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478 ^<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<*****>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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479 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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480 Can anyone tell me if there is a way to
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481 set a TRS M-100 to recognize an 'ENTER'
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482 as a carriage return and a line feed?
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483 Hopefully as an option rather then in
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484 software.
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485 Thanks,
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486 Samarai Cat
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487 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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488 :::::::::::::O O::::::::::11/14::::::::::::21:00::::::::O O::::::::::::
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489 Funny (not really) how sometimes we can have several days of intelligent
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490 entries, then suddenly be inudated with twits.
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491 Mikey: I take it that your still-(relatively)-new car has suffered another
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492 mishap? They are everywhere, aren't they? - on the road, on the boards...
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493 Banzaiists: as an alternative, there is Saturday after PorSFiS when we are
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494 all together anyway.
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495 Alex: that primer on cryptanalysis looks good. My dealings with the subject
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496 (on the DEciphering end) has usually been the trial & error (mostly error)
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497 method. Guess I'll have to try the organized, methodical aproach.
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498 Neutron Risk? That sounds like it has some rather interesting possibilities.
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499 Destroy the armies but leave the country accessible. So much for cutting
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500 Australia off by nuking Siam. Like to try it one of these days.
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501 ::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::voyeur:::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::
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502 Alex: OEDIH KRTOO SLHUT OOEST IOOSM OKBOE VEVSQ
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503 L'homme, voyeur, G. Minsky, et al: there is going to be a possible "freebie"
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504 at Vancouver Mall 5 pm friday. Wear costume (You've been to con's so you know
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505 what I mean)
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506 Samurai Cat: Please Elucidate. I own a M100 and may be able to help. But I
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507 need to know more about what you are trying to do. In TEXT, the "end-of-line"
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508 marker IS a CR/LF pair. If you try to transfer the file with TELCOM, the LFs
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509 get stripped off. For DIRECT hook-ups (thru the RS232) you can SaAVE:COM:xxxxx
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510 (where xxxxx is the proper com setting) & the LFs WILL be sent.
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511 ______________________________________Leonard___________________________________
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512 )_*$#_)$*#)_*$!_)*$!)_*$_!%_*@%_)*#$_)^*$_^*)_*^_!$)*^#_$*^_#$)*^_$#^*^)_#*^#^_$%&^%_*&_$%*#_*^$_%*&$_*&#$%)_&*$)_&*$#_
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513 Voyeur : I would like an apology from you. BS indeed! I have better things to do than fool the likes of this bunch. I
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514 was out at Milch's place, and he gave me a hint or two. As soon as I say the puzzle, I knew pretty much how to go
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515 about it. I made one slight mistake, by forgetting to take into account the ending fill. The last word was slightly
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516 garbaged, but Leonard set me straight. So there!
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517 Milch : Glad the listing helped. If you ever need another listing, let me know. I have your magazines all copied, and
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518 I should be returning them to you someday... I have VERY bad news on the fill routine. I can't use it. After 'unlimited'
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519 memory on big machines like the VAX at school, and then 'lots-o-mem- machines like the IBM PC with 640k, I forgot that
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520 there must be a limit to the stack a program can use with recursion. Consider my fill routine written in C. Every time
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521 it is called, 15 bytes are added to the stack. Each point that is to be plotted requires one call, since it is a
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522 variation of a flood fill. Now let's say I have 10,000 pixels to fill in. That's only 31.25% of the screen. That means I would
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523 neet at the maximum point I would need 150000 bytes of memory for the recursion stack alone. Now even with 52k available
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||
524 after switching out BASIC roms, no way jose'. On the C64, when the stack overflowed into the program, it returned
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||
525 to BASIC. To test my overflow theory further, I duplicated the program on the TRS80 Alcor C, which, of course, has
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526 built in SETPOINT(x,y) and TESTPOINT(x,y). With everything else the same, and with a 13k stack, I could only fill about
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||
527 3/4ths of the screen. What does all this mean? More 6502. You may be getting a call in the near future. Too bad we can't
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528 work out a double purpose visit this Saturday(help me out after PorSFiS).
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529 Alex : Are you still interested in the Apple Books?
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530 Leonard : As I said before, perhaps my choice of 'simple' was in error, but its intended meaning was not. Our codes, at
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531 least until the last one, were simple, polyalphabetic or not.
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532 Mikey : So sorry! I hope you don't think I normally conduct business this way. I have an excuse of sorts. What would you
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533 think of a professor who had an assignment due at 5:15pm that utilized certain libraries that existed on a computer, but
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||
534 only under his catalog which was protected from ALL students? I had to run around most of the afternoon trying to find
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||
535 someone who was a 'super user' who could get in. It turns out he admitted his mistake, and extended the due date. But in
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||
536 all my running around, I neglected to find time to phone. I will call FOR SURE Thursday. Thanks for waiting...
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537 All BWMSers : I humbly submit a proposal that anyone wishing to go along to the premier (Portland at least), of B. Banzi,
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||
538 would certainly be welcome. We are shooting for sometime Friday night, at a theater yet to be determined(We'll know for
|
||
539 sure by Thursday afternoon). If you are interested, let us know here. I think it will be fun.
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540 *!%_)*@)_*%#@_)%*_)!#*%_!)*%_!)*% L'homme sans Parity *@#)_*_)*%_)*_)*!_%)*_)*%@_)*%++@%+*%*%!@)*%_)*%!_)*%_)!@*%
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541 PS please excure typos (say/saw etc.) Also, did anyone out there catch St. Elsewhere tonight?
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542
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543 )8)()()(+()()()()()()()))((((()()((((()
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544 sorry about the excess blank lines - tried to delete the but was given a messagethat it wasn't allowed .... what gives?
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545 ???????
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546
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547 <(:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::)>
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548 RedFox: Well, no, I haven't decided on the name yet. Do you have any sug-
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549 gestions? I'd like to have something descriptive. (That's probably hard for
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550 you since you haven't seen it). And also, I think there are jerks everywhere
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551 but hopefully the simple design of it will bore them and they'll go away.
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552
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553 Milchar & Novar: This is about fourth-hand information, but I heard that it had
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554 something to do with the inventor of the bra...don't ask me more, I don't know.
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555 All: It seem that whenever I ask a question, the next person on answers and I
|
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556 never get any more input than that. Are you all indifferent? Leonard? Mil-
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557 char? Voyeur? L'homme? Mikey? Anybody?? (In case you have no idea what I'm
|
||
558 talking about, check out my message...oh, somewhere in the late hundreds on
|
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559 this drive)
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560 <(:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Walrus:)>
|
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561 ************************************************************
|
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562 TOO CLOSE TO THE END OF THIS DISK TO MAKE AN ENTRY, AN
|
||
563 ANSWER TO A QUESTION, HOWEVER IS IN ORDER... I AM WILLING
|
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564 TO TAKE PARTNERS IN THE WRITING AND DESIGN OF A NEW COMIC
|
||
565 BOOK OR SIMILAR **PAID** PUBLICATION. I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE
|
||
566 AND NEED HELP WITH ORGANIZING MY IDEA'S AND GETTING IMPUT
|
||
567 FROM OTHERS. IN A WAY I HAVE USED EVERYTHIIING PEOPLE HAVE
|
||
568 SAID ABOUT MY ENTRIES TO HELP THE CHARITOR GROW, BUT I THINK
|
||
569 I WANT CONTROL OVER HER FATE. (HEEHH HEEHH) *THAT IS EVIL
|
||
570 LAUGHING FOR THOSE WHO ARE CURIOUS*
|
||
571 ILL BE AT THE MEETING ON SATURDAY AT THE LIBRARY AND WILL BE
|
||
572 AVAILABLE FOR CRITISIM OR WHATEVER.. *BE WARNED I'M BRING TWO
|
||
573 BODYGUARDS!!*
|
||
574 ILL SIGN IN AGAIN ON MONDAY NIGHT, (I HAVE SOME VACATION COMING)
|
||
575 ALSO ILL SIGN IN TONIGHT ABOUT 5:30 AM TO CHECK ANY RESPONSE TO
|
||
576 THIS. (WHICH I DOUBT THERE WILL BE)
|
||
577 NOTE: AM I BEING RUDE TO ASK FOR LESS B.S AND MORE WRITING?
|
||
578 ****************************kathy*************************12:40 am**
|
||
579 Yes, you are Kathy. Motilah Nehru, good bye all. Sleep end unknow try again !
|
||
580
|
||
581
|
||
582 ............ This is... The BOTTOM LINE. <Now what?>
|
||
583
|
||
584 TRY 'TOP'
|
||
585 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
|
||
586 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
|
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587 Wretched modems, one of thease days all of my equipment will work at one time.
|
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588 Then I will probably die from heart failure.
|
||
589 Code freaks, now that I am running 128K bank switched on a 7.12 MHZ Z-80 with
|
||
590 the full 32K implementation microsoft basic, I need some simple code o to start
|
||
591 work on. Be kind...
|
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592 Anybody have a small(9-14'') colour TV set for sale?
|
||
593 Gregory:About time you got here, give me a ring sometime.
|
||
594 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/MiG/? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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