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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 *********************** INSTALLED: 25 OCT 84 **********************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day system operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
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6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
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10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
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11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
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14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
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15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
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16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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18 ************************************************************
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19
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20 Leonard: I am reminded of a saying by Mr. Ford that went something like
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21 'If I want an engineer, I hire one, not teach myself how to be one.'
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22 I agree that the President shouldn't be concerned about every detail.
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23 However, he should have at least a minimal understanding of the scope
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24 of what is going on, and I don't think Reagan does. He has delagated
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25 every aspect of the office to his underlings, and doesn't keep up with
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26 what they are doing. Indeed, if what I have heard is true, he doesn't
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27 even try to (Re: his sleeping during cabinet meetings.) Mondale on the
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28 other hand I find to be very out of touch with reality. If he truely
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29 believes as he has stated that the Russians won't build satilite weapons
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30 if we don't. This despite the fact that they are doing so right now,
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31 and have never in the past stopped building weapons just because we
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32 did. As a matter of fact, they used the opertunity during the Carter years
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33 to catch up with the US and in some aspects move ahead. Nor am I in favour
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34 of Mondale's idea of taking money out of my pocket to feed his special
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35 programs. I doubt very much that it will be used to affect the debt
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36 given what I've seen the Democates do in the past. They are more
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37 interested in spending money then trying to figure out where it will
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38 come from. Increasing the money flow to uncle sam will only increase
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39 the outflow. Besides, it doesn't really matter much if the money goes
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40 out of my pocket to uncle, or never gets there in the first place,
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41 I still can't use it. And when you get down to the bottom, that is
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42 what concerns me, how much USEABLE money I have.
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43 ****************************** CISTOP MIKEY *****************************:
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44 Anybody got any ideas as to what the incomplete tirade about the "holocaust"
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45 on drive b is/was about?
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46 ________________________________Leonard_________________________________________
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47 *************************************************************************:
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48 Leonard: I don't know, but it was a good start. Even a good deal of truth
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49 to it. Say, I wonder what the Rashneeshee's are going to do now that it
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50 looks like they won't make the election? Being the type of people they are,
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51 I'm sure they will find some other trouble to get into.
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52 *************************** CISTOP MIKEY **********************************
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53 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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54 I too find Reagan's John Wayne stance in foreign policy to be an overriding
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55 concern. It is of little comfort even to the few benefitted by supply side
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56 economics to drive to a nuclear holocaust in a late-model car. If the only
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57 consideration you bring to the voting booth is the amount of useable money
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58 you have, it is just as well that you are not participating in choosing our
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59 government.
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60 RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR AATW RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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61 *************************************************************************
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62 Obviously you can't read, I said it before, and I will say one more time.
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63 I am voting, but not for YOUR idea of a candidate. I am very interested
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64 it letting those that be know my feelings. Copping out and voting for
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65 Fritz or Ronnie will not do that. That would only cause me to be one of
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66 the mindless sheep that assumes you must vote for A or B or it will be
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67 of no value. NOT TRUE!!! Now I am not so stupid as to beleive that my
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68 voting for Mr. Non-of-the-above will make a major change, but then neither
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69 will your voting for Fritz either. So instead, I have opted to make the
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70 best use of my voting right to make as strong a statement about my feelings
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71 that I can. Blending into the mass of sheep voting for A or B does not
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72 do that. Rest assured, I will be voting for other offices as well, it
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73 is only the presidency that I find neither candidate that has been placed
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74 on the block to be acceptable to me. And I refuse to bow down to your
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75 insinuation that I should vote for one of them just because you think I
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76 should. By the very fact that I am intending to place my vote in a way
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77 that must be counted, it insures that it will be counted in a form I
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78 can accept. Which is better then not voting at all. Also, I don't know
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79 where you get the idea that all I care about is how much money I have.
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80 The point I was making if you go and reread the msg again is that I
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81 don't see any difference between Reagan and Fritz economically. Either
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82 way I loose. There are many other things I consider important if you
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83 were to read my other msgs. I fully realize that Ronnie or Fritz will
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84 be the next pres. (probably Ronnie given the lastest polls) but in my
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85 opinion we lose in either case.
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86 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY *********************************
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87 P.S. When was the last time you wrote your congressman? Did you know
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88 that writing your congressman can have a bigger effect on his decisions
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89 then anything else you can do? I consider this to be a far more effective
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90 tool then to just vote for another carbon copy.
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91 A letter can have the power of as much as 10 to 100 or more votes.
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92 *********************************************************************
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93 I am looking for techu incal information, wiring and parts info, on the
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94 installation of a reset circuit for the resetting of an IM BM PC without
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95 power-down. I have been told that there is a circuit available but have been
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96 unable to find it. If you have such information please contact Robert
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97 King (503) 227-7126. (Voice Only )
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98 help
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99 I am looking for information, parts and wiring info, on the installation
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100 of a single button reset circuit for the resetting of an IBM/PC without
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101 power-down. I have been told that there is such a circuit available but have
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102 been unable to obtain any information. If you can help, please contact Robert
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103 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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104 I'll leave the piper contentedly stuffing his face on the adventure to stop
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105 in at the debate.
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106 First --BRAVO MIKEY!!! I fully intend to vote in the same manner. I cannot
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107 in clear conscience vote for the incompetent -- oops, incumbent president.
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108 Sure, it's true. He's competent as a figurehead and does a good job as long
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109 as he gets at least one chance to rehearse his lines. We have very little
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110 question as to who bought and paid for him, and who is reaping the benifits of
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111 his years in office. On the other side, we have Fritz the 'Crat. I shan't
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112 get into his supposed qualifictions other than to look at the manuvering that
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113 it took for him to get to be the party nominee. The stuff that shows on the
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114 surface indicates that the SOB is about as slimy, unprincipled, and morally
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115 taineted as any other politician. I find the thought of him and ms. rich b...
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116 rather unsettling. I doubt that he is as good an actor as rotten Ronnie, so
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117 is less likely to prove a popular figurehead. He has promised the moon to
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118 every special intrest group that he could contact -- and all those folks will
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119 want to call in the debt if he gets the job. Yuchh.
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120 Between rotten Ronnie and Fritz the 'Crat there's no choice -- NoneOfTheAbove
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121 will be my choice as well.
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122 Economics -- what we're reaping now is the effects of the Vietnam war. We
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123 squandered too much of our nation's wealth in the jungles over there -- poured
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124 too much of our national output, manpower and morale into a struggle that was
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125 basically none of our business. We fought that war on credit, and the bills
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126 have been coming due a long time. We never paid them, they still exist, and
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127 the interest on the debt keeps building up. I can't blame either party for
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128 this mess -- both were equally guilty and ready to jump into a war that they
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129 thought would offer some measure of economic stimulus. It didn't.
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130 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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131 Sorry, Mike, but 'none of the above' is not a vote that will carry a
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132 message to any politician; they know that only the winner in any election
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133 counts, so any vote that doesn't affect who wins doesn't count. It can
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134 be done any way you like- don't vote at all, vote for Donald Duck, none-
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135 of-the-above, or vote for a certain loser- they are all the same, throwing
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136 your vote away. Only a vote that threatens to alter the outcome is a vote.
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137 Besides, a vote that obviously (to the politicos) isn't valid implies to
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138 them a politically incompetent, and this is not what you want.
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139 I know it means something to you, but communication requires both that
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140 you say something, and that you say it in a way that can be understood
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141 by whomever you are trying to talk to. Of course this is something that
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142 a lot of politicians have trouble with too. A vote for Fritz is a vote
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143 against Ronnie, a vote for no-one is a zero. I know you don't like
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144 either of them, neither do I, but .....
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145 ..................................BAD...................................
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146 You are wrong. Sure, it doesn't count much, but they do take notice of it.
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147 Maybe you don't remember the big worry about the increase in libertarian
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148 votes, and independant votes and even Mickey Mouse votes last time.
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149 And I very strongly disagree they see it as political incompetence, not
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150 voting at all yes, but not voting for an alternate. Now like I said
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151 before, I recognize that it won't make a whole lot of difference to
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152 the outcome, but then niether would my vote make any real difference
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153 if I were to vote for someone I cann't accept. At least I will be placing
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154 my vote in a form that I can accept. A vote for Mr. None-of-the-above
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155 is a vote against both Ronnie and Fritz not a zero vote. Voting for
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156 someone I don't wan't is the zero vote. I would have wasted my right
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157 to vote on something I don't believe in, and I refuse to do that.
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158 Politicians do care about the people and how they feel. I know it
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159 doesn't seem like it sometimes, but they do, because they know that
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160 if they get too far out of line they won't get elected next time, or
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161 worse get booted out immediately. Sure my vote for Mr. None-of-the-above
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162 is a drop in the bucket. But at least maybe I'll get the bucket wet
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163 instead of being lost in the ocean of votes by the other sheep.
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164 And like I said above, if you REALLY are interested in your government,
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165 you should write your congressman and tell him how you feel. Be they
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166 republican or Democrate they listen to letters, because if you were
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167 concerned enough to write a letter, they know that it is a subject of
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168 importance to you.
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169 Waving the flag once every four years hardly qualifies anyone as being
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170 politically aware.
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171 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY *********************************
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172 4$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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173
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174 ***** $75,000 REWARD *********
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175
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176
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177 TO ANYONE WHO CAN PROVE THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE
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178
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179 PURPOSE OF KILLING HUMAN BEINGS EXISTED AT OR IN
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180
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181 AUSCHWITZ CONCENTRATION CAMP
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182
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183 DURING WORLD WAR II.
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184
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185 FOR DETAILS CONTACT:
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186
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187 Institute for Historical Review
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188 P>O> Box 1306
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189 Torrance, California 90505
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190
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191 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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192
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193
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194 To the above: I have just one question. What qualifies as "proof"? Testimony
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195 by the survivors? Testimony at the Nuremburg trials? Or something else?
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196 (by the way, I thought that even the GERMANS who were on trial had admitted
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197 to such things, but tried to excuse it as "only following orders"?)
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198 I am willing to be convinced, but I'd like to see some evidence for your side.
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199 Give me some references that can be found in the library or obtained thru
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200 library exchange.
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201 I do not believe that you are correct, but I support your right to ask
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202 "uncomfortable" questions.
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203 Mikey: WIf I set "LF N" will I still get embedded linefeeds (lf chars in the
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204 middle of the line?)
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205 __________________________________Leonard_______________________________________
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206 ______________________________________________________________________________
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207 The Game
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208 "Something's wrong with the chessboard. My woman doesn't have any
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209 feathers. And your dart needs sharpening.", said one of the three players,
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210 pointing one hand accusingly at the playing field, and waving the other with
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211 motions of disgust.
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212 I was above such simple bickering, mainly because I was sitting this
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213 game out. But it wasn't hard to remember how hot the brain gets; how steamed
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214 the emotions become when one gets involved in *The Game*.
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215 No one really knows the origins of *The Game*. Some say it was a
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216 conglomeration of many games. An effort by the ruling Upper Crust to keep
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217 the working Normals in line by giving them something complex to do in their
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218 Off Time. There were many ideas, but no one really knew for sure.
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219 The argument at the table was getting louder, and the attention of
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220 more and more non-playing Normals was diverted to the three participants. A
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221 question of equipment condition seemed to be the main obstacle to *Good Play*,
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222 which was always the desired goal in any round of *The Game*. But some players
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223 would find any excuse to stall to give them a chance to rethink strategy, for
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224 the other more important goal of *The Game* was *To Win*.
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225 Milt, a tall lanky male in his late teens was making most of the noise.
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226 His left partner was a female Normal named Teed, and her left partner was
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227 a quiet seemingly detached from the action Normal named Fife.
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228 Fife sat quietly while Milt gestured and spouted injustice about
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229 everything. Teed tried to calm Milt, but to no avail. Pushing his chair back,
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230 Fife stood up, revealing a muscular stature built on an enormous frame. He
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231 continued to stand with arms crossed until the others noticed him and
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232 quickly ceased their argument. Every eye in the Game Room was on Fife. His
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233 lips, unaccustomed to speech, moved, but were not accompanied by sound. Still
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234 the room hung on Fife's every movement. When at last his self-imposed silence
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235 lifted, he uttered in a whisper like voice, "On with *The Game*."
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236 Fife returned to his chair, and the three resumed play. Never before
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237 has I witnessed what in Fife's case could only be called an outburst. Fife
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238 was not a talker. He was a heavy worker who toiled deep in the Mines digging
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239 mineral deposits for Upper Crust amenities. Only the strongest worked this
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240 type of job. Only the strongest and the quietest.
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241 The game continued without further interruption, and the audience, made
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242 up entirely of non-playing Normals, returned their attentions to their own
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243 little conversations, which not unexpectedly, centered almost exclusively on
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244 Game Strategy.
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245 I, on the other hand, was interested in this particular game. From
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246 examining the board positions, I decided that Fife held no particular point of
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247 power, but his position was not without merit. It was painfully apparent that
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248 Milt was the player in imminent trouble. His board position was very weak,
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249 and his playing skills were deteriorating has his playing pieces decreased
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250 in position and declined in number. Teed appeared to have the best position
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251 of all, but would she capitalize?
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252 *The Game* raged for hours, and I made several mental notes of
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253 possible mistakes by the three players. One never knew who would eventually
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254 show up as an opponent. It was a good idea to have as much background infor-
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255 mation as possible.
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256 A yell from the table tore my gaze from the small Play-Stat board in
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257 front of me to the table where the action was heating up. Milt was standing
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258 now, and a quick scan of the board told me why; he had been eliminated. He
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259 sank back down in his chair, his eyes never leaving the playing field where
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260 his pieces now stood completely captured. Fife and Teed continued, but it
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261 was now obvious that Fife was on A Roll, and it was only a matter of minutes
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262 before Teed was gone too.
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263 After *The Game* was closed, and the losers removed from the building,
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264 I approached Fife. Crossing in front of him as to not surprise him, I asked,
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265 "You knew, when you stood up. You knew, didn't you?"
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266 "Yes.", he replied in a low raspy voice. "I knew I had them. I knew
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267 I would win. I knew I would live to play *The Game* again. I knew...", his
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268 voice trailed off, and he made for the exit. I did not follow.
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269 "Winning is tough,", I thought to myself, "but it's not as tough as
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270 losing." With that thought, I left the Game Arena, and headed for my cubical.
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271 I prescribed to the School of Preparation. I had to always prepare for *The
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272 Game*.
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273 ___________________________A WORD FROM THE WISE - PART XIV____________________
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274 )#@)_*!@)_*!@_)*$!@)_$+!)_@($!@+&$!)_@$!@_*(!+(%!)_#&%_#@*%_@#*%)_#@*%_@#*5
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275 Mikey: I have a disk with the three programs we spoke of at the last PCS
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276 meeting for you. Tell Aaron I will also have his 4 8" disks with backwater
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277 archives there too. The conversion to IBM format is nearly completed.
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278 Voyeur : When can you arrange time in your busy schedule to come and help
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279 xfer the BW files from IBM to TRS80?
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280 *_%#*@_)%*#@_)%*@#)_% L'homme sans Parity *%_)@#*%_)@#*%_)@*%!_)#*%_)!*%_!*%!
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281 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
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282 It's nice to be back at BW after a long leave of absence. My
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283 girlfriend is out of town and I feel like a freeman. (and a Freman)
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284 L'Homme: I'll try to get some floppies to you by the next PorSFiS.
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285 Mikey and JCS: A vote for "None of the above" says little about who you want
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286 for president. Do you want no president. You are not limited to vote
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287 for either Ron/George or Fritz/Tits. If you don't like them, write
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288 in who YOU think would do the best job. None of the above says little
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289 more then not voting.
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290 The Ninja
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291 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
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292 ###########################################################################
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293 LEONARD: PLEASE READ "DEBUNKING THE GENOCIDE MYTH" BY PAUL RASSINIER
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294 AND
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295 " THE HOAX OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY " BY
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296 A. R. BUTZ. 1976
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297 *=====================><==================================*
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298 -------------------------------------------------------------
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299 TO ALL THE ABOVE:
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300 to most of you,you took half the disk space talking about
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301 Stupid Ronald Reagan And Wally Mondale and that took half the disk space,what i
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302 am trying to say is you need to let other
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303 people use like now,well so what who cares anyways...........
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304 ---------------------International Trader--------------------
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305 Ps-Do you think that the Rajneeshes's should stay in Oregon?
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306 i think that they should be kicked out ,now they are trying to
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307 take the homeless people into the Rajneesh Porum or whatever
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308 anyways i would like to get a nice conversation on here.
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309 how about ,about bbs system do you think they are important do you learn anythin
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310 g from them ,how about all the new bbs's that come up and then-
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311 disapear with out anyone hardly knowing (Why can't anyone set up a bbs like this
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312 one or like Rome Dune West Side ect.,well anyway good bye
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313 see ya later everyone .............................
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314 REAGAN/BUSH RULE
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315 ----------------------Internationl Trader---------------------
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316
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317 ---------------------------------------------------------------
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318
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319 For all of the election debaters, are you aware that Bozo the Clown is also run-
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320 ning? His motto is "If we have to have a clown for president, why not have a
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321 professional?"
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322
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323 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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324 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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325 I had changed in some sort of way. When I awoke I saw Bard and a black Unicorn approaching. He said not a word but
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326 helped me on Lucifer (his Unicorn), and we rode towards camp.
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327 "Odd, still have my mental powers. Lucifer's name came like a shot.", I mumbled. Bard only half-paid attention, busy
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328 finding the easiest path in the lovely forest. "Bard, what has happened to the others?", I queried.
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329 "Most of them have waited for you. Piper has returned, bringing with him a tremendous appetite. The good Friar has
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330 taken a walk with an old woman."
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331 I was glad he didn't ask what had happened to me. It seemed like he didn't want to know unless I told him.
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332 A pain shot through my head, and a vision sprang before my eyes: The Mad Actor was in the Valley! The pain in
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333 my head seemed to be due to some sort of popping noise in TMA's cloak. Throwing a thought that way, it quieted down.
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334 I noticed the scenes around me again. We had found the camp, and everyone was standing near the breakfast fire
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335 commenting on Piper's capacity to eat. I thanked Bard and Lucifer, and dismounted. My necklace sparked attention.
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336 Piper even stopped eating. "Behold all, the first step towards my destiny." The necklace sparkled and glittered in
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337 response.
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338 "I'm terribly hungry. Piper, could you spare me a bit of that?"
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339 ++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 09:52 on 10/26/84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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340 **************************************************************************
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341 Leonard: I don't know if the LF N strips all line feeds let's see
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342 well, it would appear that they are stripped out
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hmm, even in enter mode.
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343 Gee, I never really gave it much tought. Nice to know how it works.
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344 Well, later, I am going back to my Compuserve manual and try to figure
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345 out how to log onto the beast. Golly, when I left this morning there was
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346 a bunch of yelling and screaming (debate?) going on at the Inn. Tonight
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347 when I step in the door all is quiet. (my ears are still ringing)
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348 Here's a thought that someone at work brought up, what if the latest
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349 move by the Rashee's is to just make everyone think they aren't going
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350 to vote thus making everyone back off, and possibly not vote. Then come
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351 election day the neshee's show up in force possibly out voting the complasent
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352 peolpe who are caght unaware. Something to think about.
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353 **************************** CISTOP MIKEY **********************************
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354
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355 Ninja - nice to see you back on this system. No time for a message.
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356 ...
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357
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359 1 HELLO TO ALL FROM THE
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360 *j**
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361 C O M P U T E R K I D!!
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362 |^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^
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363 The above is a demonstration of real computer professionalism.
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365 ****
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366 * !! FOR SALE !! *
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367 * 48K ATARI 800, BASIC, WICO *
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368 * 2300 $ + CASSETTE SOFTWARE *
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369 * 5 LANGUAGES, UTILITIES *
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370 * MOST OF THE BEST GAMES *
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371 * MAKE A OFFER, ALL OR ? *
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372 * LEAVE MESSAGE 761-xxxx *
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374 ******************************
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375
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376 Mikey: I see, so much for trying to download with lf n! Sigh...
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377 I also see that the system will echo more backspaces than it executes. (I have
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378 heard of this problem from others too...) One more thing to check out if we
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379 ever get the source code.
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380 MIG: Have you talked to Mikey about getting the ROMs yet?
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381 __________________________________Leonard_______________________________________
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382 Mikey::: If Santa were to bring you a small dictionary for Christmas, would
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383 you CLEAN UP YOUR SPELLING????? Santa's Helper
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384 _________________________________Not Leonard________________________________
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385 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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386 Lines 372-392?--What happened? It seems that every time I log on,
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387 there are lines missing!
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388 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lurker <<<<<<<<
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389 About the Holocaust.... Yes, what is proof? The ones who say it did not happen all seem to have an axe to grind.
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390 A survivor of the camps, who lost his family there, took up on of these yoyi on the "proof" challenge. Had to
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391 take the Yoyi to court, had to show the judge all the available evidence, had to jump through a hoop, etc. The
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392 Yoyi still wouldn't accept the proof, but the judge did. Made the holocaust a mater of public record. never
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393 did hear if they made the yoyi cough up the $$$$$...
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394 the Phantom Glitch 10/27
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395 8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-
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396 ==========================<*>===========================================================================================
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397 HELLO
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398 hi all,this is the International Trader here............folks
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399
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400 One-who is the lead singer for the group Dokken?
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401 Two-Who is the president of the Usa?
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402 Three-Do you think this is a dumb poll?
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403 --------------------International Trader--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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404 I ONLY KNOW IN MY WORLD
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405 I HATE THE LIGHT,
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406 I SPEED AT NIGHT......................
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407 no ,voices just whispers in the wind,nofaces just places to begin..........
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408 <(:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::)>
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409 A bit of clearing up about polls....
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410 Polls don't make an election, or at least they shouldn't. Polls are legenda-
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411 rily inaccurate. Many people aren7't voting for Mondale because "aw, he won't
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412 win anyway." Well, it just so happens that polls often ignore segments of the
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413 population that could be very important in the polls, mainly lower classes.
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414 Most polls are telephone polls, so what about people without phones? Are they
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415 not going to vote? Also, I'll bet that most pollsters aren't going to the
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416 Bronx for a door-to-door. Now, I'm not saying that Fritz is >>going<< to win,
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417 and I'm not saying that you should vote for him. But if you prefer him over
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418 the Mad Actor (sorry, Mad Actor, but there is a paralllel), you should vote.
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419 It >>will<< make a difference.
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420 ------------
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421 All this talk about "Mr. None-of-the-Above" has reminded me of the student
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422 body elections at our high school last year. A friend of mine and I ran his
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423 cat, Mouschi, for election. This was intended for an outlet for those who
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424 didn't care, or didn't care for the candidates. Well, Mouschi got 8% of the
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425 the vote, prehaps not too impressive, but beat out one candidate. This is fine
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426 for High School Elections, but I don't recommend it for something as impor-
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427 tant as the presidential election.
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428 ------------
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429 If you intent on voting for None of the Above, why not vote for Ian Rem Bem
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430 Lem Plem Ptang Ptang Ole' Biscuit Barrel instead. He's the Silly Party Candi-
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431 date.
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432 <(::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Walrus:)>
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433 <+|+> {465} 10271729
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434 These days there seems to be a lot of negative sentiment aboput the
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435 followers of the Bhagwan. It is understandable, but I tend to feel that
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436 their only crime has been their abrasiveness. Catalyzed by the paranoiac
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437 Sheel Silverman, they acquired a sort of shoot first, ask questions
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438 later syndrome, and they have alienated most Oregonians by seeming
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439 not to care about anyone else. Maybe it's mostly just Sheela's mouth?
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440 I still find the commune to be fascinating--I am a Rajneesh junkie,
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441 and hope the much-feared violence in Wasco Co. doesn't appear.
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442 I also hope the Rajneesh are able ot find a home and build a city free of
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443 objections and persecution. Wherever they go in the world, they will
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444 have a hard time planting a new city in a rural area. I think the
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445 whole damn world is zoned. And it is easy to see how the rajneeshees
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446 might begin to feel frustrated and persecuted in the face of so many
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447 seemingly needless barriers to their dream. They may have been thoughtless in
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448 disregarding the law and talking out of both sides of their mouth(s). But
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449 they may have had reason to be distrustful themselves.
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450 At any rate, it is difficult to see the other side when you have
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451 "the only religion". Witness the fundamentalist Christians, and the
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452 beloved of Islam. It takes all kinds, though. I kind of hope they stay.
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453 They paint a swath of color across the ethnically dull canvas of
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454 Oregon's demography.
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455 Jim Carr
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456 (Do I need a nickname?) (Long live Sam Bowie!) (Nice to meetcha!)
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457 ==========================================================================================
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458 ===================================================================================
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459 ===
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460 ___________________________________________________________________________________
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461 Don't you meen long live rock 'n' roll...?
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462 Well all's well that end's well and one thing about that poll
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463 i was so stupid to even do that poll i don't know why i am talking about that well does anyone here know the lead singer
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464 for DOKKEN??????????HUH???well snap it out?
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465 c'mon i hate being patient.......................well
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466
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467 ================INTERNATIONAL TRADER=========<===============
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468 ================INTERNATIONAL================================
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469 Did you know that 4/5 dentist prefer that dokken is an awesome group INTO THE FIRE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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470 Ha fooled you there let's get a good story going here.....
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471 ==========================================================
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472 Like how about(this may sound dumb and stupid but) how about like one person starts one story each time they add on to i
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473 t ,i know i know that sounds like a little kiddies game
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474 it's better than talking about POLITICS:I HATE MONDAL/FERRARO
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475 /BUSH
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476 =====
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477 One night,in a dark dark city,there lived a dwarf named
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478 Heleo,he loved to fish in the old pond,near the town of Trasec
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479 he walked along the path each day just to go fishing until one
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480 day he noticed something weird was happing so he rushed out
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481 of the pond and never went fishing again.
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482 HA HA HA HA HA WHAT A FACE,TOP THAT
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483 ok guys well i gotta call someone at 2**-**00
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484 ha ha ha ha what a D***!!!!!!!!!!!
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485 ------:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-
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486 the beast:INTERNATIONAL TRADER RULES ALL>
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487 *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
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488 CITSOP MIKEY:THANX FOR AN AWESOME BBS
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489 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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490 From Prometheus: Thre Recentor
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491 I wish I had more room to talk, but I feel indignant about International Trader. That said, I'm off...
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492
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493 Man in Gray; Applemodem was stolen a week ago, no idea who or why! We do have one clue, they left behind the Interface card.
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494 Where does this place MLCbbs?
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495 Fictional people; Now that we are here, what do we do now? Perhaps after three days, some sort of plumbing facilities...
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496
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497 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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498 <<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>
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499 I just have one more thing to say.
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500 how's life in the fast lane?
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501 *************ONE LAST LETTER FROM:INTERNATIONAL TRADER********
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502 i hate spelling my name....................see ya
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503 The world is awesome......accept Rajneeshe's and the Russians'S
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504 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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505 I think that who ever wrote this right here is a total A-H*LE
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506 This Organization Doesn't except terrorist demands!
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507 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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508 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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509 Piper obligingly gave me a portion of his food, and I ate it with relish as he studied the necklace. Bard mumbled,
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510 "Incredible power generated by such little mass..." Piper thought a bit, and said, "Not generated, my friend. I think
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511 this little trinket provides a conduit for energy to pass through. Where it
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512 comes I know not."
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513 Further hypotheses were put forth, but only this one survived the debate. I personally hadn't thought of the gateway
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514 angle. "What do you suppose 'Two thus joined, half thus made' means?", I said to no one in particular, finishing the
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515 last of the food.
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516 "I think that little item you're wearing is incomplete. Tell us how you got it.", Bard said.
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517 I went and as clearly as possible I told them what had happened.
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518 "You say they flew together? Then there must be two more pieces. Four altogether. You have two, so 'half thus made'.
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519 The question now is where to find the other two pieces..."
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520 I suddenly noticed a puddle of water creeping closer to our camp. CREEPING?!? I looked again, and yes, that puddle
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521 WAS creeping along. It stopped about five yards away, and spoke. #I am Gyre. I hold the key to the third portion of
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522 your dilemma." How convienient, I thought.
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||
523 Piper also had his doubts. "All right, so tell us what the solution is."
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||
524 "First you must tell me what I am to shoow you.", the puddle said.
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525 "What? We're supposed to KNOW what you're to show us in order for you to be able to show us?"
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||
526 "To be brief, yes.", the puddle answered.
|
||
527 Cripes, I thought, talking to a puddle. Oh well. "We must think. We have discovered two powers, one red and one
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528 green. The other two must also have colors. Now, the green power is destruction, obviously." Everyone thought back
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529 to the Gazebo. "Now, all that is left is to find out what the Red and the unknown powers are."
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530 The puddle seemed to smile, as hard as that is for a puddle. "Quite good reasoning, but I won't say if it is correct or
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||
531 not. Tell me what I am to show you."
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532 ++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 01:18am on 10/28/84 D.S.T. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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533
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534
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535
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536 ?????????????????????????????????????????????
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537 what was that just above?
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538
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539 or does anybody care?
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540
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541 mike, who cared about the votes for Mickey Mouse? I beleive it was the
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542 press, who could use it for a laugh in what was otherwise a very dull
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543 election report. Not thwe poiticians. But do salve your ego, it may be
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544 the best thing to do with a vote if the polls mean anything. Times have
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545 been relatively good, and any politian now in is claiming responsibility.
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546 I only wish they were right, but , tho I know they can damage the
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547 economy, I have serious doubts about thier ability to help it, especially
|
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548 in view of what is truly known about what drives the economy.
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549
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550 A few line above the sentiment was expressed that anyone has the right to
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551 speak out in favor of any view, no matter how 'wrong'; this is a very
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552 dangerous use of freedom of speech. Do you believe in the right to
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553 yell "fire!" in a full theater? to teach that you can fly if you believe
|
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554 it strongly enough, and the building is tall enough?
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555 If a claim is made, and someone believes it, but it isn't true, how much is
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556 that person hurt? How much is the truth damaged? This is 1984, and newspeak
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557 was an important weapon in the book. Trying to hide the truth about WWII
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558 isn't going to help anybody who doesn't plan to sell a book claiming
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559 hokum. But then we who use BWMS think for ourselves, so here is a good
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560 safe place to say hokum.
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561 ................................BAD..............................
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562 ...............................HORRIBLE..........................
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563 ...............................TERRIBLE..........................
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564 ...............................OBNOXIOUS.........................
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565 ...........................ALL ROUND MEAN........................
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566 --------------------------------------------------
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567 what an ed nule head >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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568 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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569 I have a large stack of cards, pink in colour, that contain all kinds of info on folks who frequented BW in the past. I
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570 look to them now, and find no traders, international or otherwise, around. The hunt is afoot. I gather the required
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571 materials, dust off the old twit-whistle. A soft blow, "pirate software!" the whistle whistles. It will be easy.
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572 Theus:Chard and I have discussed the matter. The fact that the interface card, with its custom chips and about .6 of the
|
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573 modem hardware, was left behind, makes me wonder as to the motive. Perhaps a stupid user of another computer type? or
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574 somebody who is pissed at MLC? I have another modem, but a few mods need to be made to use it on an apple2. Also the
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575 software must change. I think I need to talk with the normal inhabitaints of the little room. Call me sometime when your
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576 voice phone works again.
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577 ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ~ ? ? ? ?/MiG/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
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578 YOURE "WELCOME TO BWMS..ETC TURNS ON MY INVERSE BUT
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579 DOESNT TURN IT OFF
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580 *%#@_)*%_)#*%_)#!%*!#*%_@#)*%_@#%_@#$&%_&^_)&*_^)!*&^_+&*_$&^_&^_@)$&^_@)^&
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581 Cough Cough...Mikey...Did you get my last message re: Sanyo stuff and BW
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582 archive disks?
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583 Leonard: What did you want Saturday?
|
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584 Ninja : You'll need 25 disks for all the BW stuff. Where ya been?
|
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585 )*%&_@#)*%@#_)*%_#)@%*@#)_*%$% L'homme sans Parity *%_*%_@)*%@)_#*%_@)#*%_@#)*
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586 L'homme: Yes, I did indeed get the msg, sorry I didn't reply sooner,
|
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587 What with everything else going on, I plumb forget! I just got thru
|
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588 spending the weekend building a H150. I shall be waiting for said same disk(s).
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589 one final note to the debaters, and then i shall move on to other
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590 subjects, and not speak of it again. most people who vote for
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591 someone (thing?) that does not exist on the ballot
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592 recognize that the person/thing will not win. the purpose of
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593 voting the way they do is to make a statement. be it a vote
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594 for a libitarian, or mickey mouse. (sorry about the lack of
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595 caps, this stupid computer just decided to not let them thru
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596 anymore, and i forgot the command to get things back to normal.)
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597 as a result, it doesn't really matter for the point of end results
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598 who you vote for if you don't vote the ticket. since i feel both
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599 canidates are unsuitible for the office, i find that i am unable
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600 to vote for either one.. after all, that is the purpose of the vote
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601 to chose the person you wish to have in the office. since i feel
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602 neither one is acceptable, i must vote for another way. since i
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603 know also that it won't prevent one of the two from winning, i
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604 have decided to vote the way i want to which is for mr. none-of-
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605 the-above. this satisfies me, and still places my mark outthere
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606 as a voter which provides a count of those who voted for other
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607 then the two canidates. (this BAD is what i was talking about when
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608 i indicated the concern that occured during the last election. they
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609 don't care about mickey mouse being voted for, it is the fact the
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610 a rather significant increase in people voting for other then the
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611 two given canidates that caused concern, as this leads to the obvious
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612 realization that maybe the parties are not meeting the needs and
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613 wants of the citizens as well as they should if they are loosing
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614 voters. this is also the reason why they keep track of those who
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615 don't vote at all. though that is a bit more touch to figure out,
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616 since it could be a. the peole are happy, so why bother with it,
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617 or b. they are feed up with the whol mess, and feel that voting
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618 won't make any difference.) why should they be concerned about
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619 loosing voters? simple, most elections are won by narrow margins,
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620 and a loose voter can possibly be swug back, or lost to another party.
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621 or worse, (shudder) cause an independant canidate to be voted to office.
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622 i realize that some of you out there are satisfied with one of the
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623 canidates, and that's fine too. but don't tell me i have to vote ofr
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624 one of them. i do not find a situation of lesser of two evils here,
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625 only equal (different aspects yes, but still bad) evils. as someone
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626 said before (i forget who, but thank you.) i consider it to be the
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627 difference of pointing a gun at my head, or being asked to take poison.
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628 i prefer to say no thank you.
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629 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ********************************
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