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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask......
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2 ************************** REMOVED: 13 SEP 83 **************************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
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10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
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11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
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12 right to remove any and all messages which I may find offensive
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
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16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
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17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
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18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
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19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
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20 use the replace command to replace the line.
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21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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23 ========================================
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24
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25 Unlike the jerks who were let loose on the previous disk, I have no intention of
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26 leaving a 300-line download. Everybody say Yay!!!!!!!!!
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27 -|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
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28 TO THE PERSON WORRIED ABOUT ME ERASING YOUR MESSAGES, YOU MUST HAVE ME
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29 CONFUSED WITH SOMEONE ELSE...I NEVER ERASE ANYONE ELSE'S MESSAGES
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30 GO DUCKS!!!!
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31 DUCK FAN
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32 ****************
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33
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34 !@#$%^&*()_+_)(*&^%$#@!@#$%^&*()_+_)((*&^%$#@!@#$%^&*()_+_)(*&^%$#@!@$%^&*()*&^%$#@#$%^&*
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35 To Peaceful Paul...
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36
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37 Sorry, but no NUTS allowed on this system. Take your ever-lovin peacenick garbage back to where you
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38 found it. We don't want it, never have, never will. Why you have the nerve to upload
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39 an unedited session to this system! You didn't do a damn thing to clean it up. You just
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40 stick it on here wasting perfectly good disk space. How dare you! Pleave leave us sir, and never return!
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41 @!#%$^$%^%$(^&#%(^&(&@#(%#$(^)#@#%@#)$%@#%&%&#$%&#$&^#!(^#*^(#&^(!#&^&(^&$&)*$&*
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42
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43 TESTY.....TESTY.....TESTY
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44
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45 PERHAPS IT WAS A BIT VERBOSE HOWEVER PEACE DOES HAVE ITS ADVANTAGES !
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46
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47
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48 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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49 SEEMS TO ME THAT A LOT OF YOU ARE JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS. PERHAPS PAUL DID THAT DOWNLOAD, BUT PERHAPS NOT. IT WASN'T
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50 SIGNED, SO WHO KNOWS? AND WHO CARES? IT REALLY ISN'T THAT IMPORTANT, IS IT?
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51 TO WILLY, WHO ACCUSED EVERYONE OF ERASING HIS MESSAGES, I KNOW THAT I DIDN'T ERASE IT. WHEN I SIGNED ONTO THE
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52 SYSTEM, THERE WAS 1 ( YES FOLKS, THAT'S 1, COUNT 'EM, 1 ) LINE LEFT, THAT BEING 629, WITH JUST A CARRIAGE RETURN,
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53 AND I USED IT FOR MY MESSAGE. I ERASED NOTHING, AND PLAN TO ERASE NOTHING. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU ERASED MY MESSAGE
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54 IN ORDER TO ENTER YOUR DIATRIBE, SO IT SEEMS THE ONLY ONE GUILTY OF THIS LITTLE "CRIME" IS YOU. THE DUCK FAN RESPONDED
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55 THAT HE DIDN'T EITHER, SO OBVIOUSLY IF YOU DID ENTER A MESSAGE, IT WAS ERASED BY SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T ENTER ANYTHING.
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56 OH, BY THE WAY WILLY, YOU COULD SAVE A LOT OF ROOM FOR EVERYONE ELSE IF YOU SET THE MARGINS TO 126. IT'S NOT HARD TO
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57 DO, AND ALLOWS YOU MORE ROOM TO BE MUCH TOO WORDY (LIKE ME!!!).
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58 REGARDING THE QUESTION AS TO USAGE OF THE WORD PERFORM. TODAY, EVERYONE CONNECTS THE WORD WITH ACTORS OR MUSIC,
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59 WHICH IS ONE DEFINITION, BUT NOT THE ONLY ONE. PERFORM ALSO MEANS "TO CARRY OUT AN ACTION; EXECUTE; DO; TO CARRY
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60 THROUGH TO COMPLETION AN ACTION OR UNDERTAKING." THIS COMES FROM THE LATIN "PAR" (THOROUGHLY) AND "FOURNIR" (TO
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61 ACCOMPLISH). SO IT WAS A CORRECT USAGE, THOUGH APPARENTLY A CONFUSING ONE. I'LL TRY TO BE CLEARER IN THE FUTURE.
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62 AH, THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!! IT'S SO MUCH FUN!!
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63
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64 [][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM.[][][][][]
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65 P.S. WILLY, IF YOUR MESSAGE WAS JUST A CARRIAGE RETURN WITH NO OTHER INPUT, I MUST PLEAD GUILTY. OTHERWISE.....
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66
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67 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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68
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69 DID PEACEFUL PAUL REALLY DOWNLOAD THAT AVOCADO JUICE FROM CALIFORNIA? MAYBE
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70 HE'S AN NSA DIRTY TRICKSTER OUT TO WRECK THE FREE NETWORKS BY MAKING
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71 EVERYBODY QUARREL. MAYBE HE'S THE SUPERIOR BEING FROM SPACE WE HEARD ABOUT.
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72 WHAT WILL WE ASK HIM FOR IF WE CAN CONVINCE HIM WE ARE WORTH THE TROUBLE?
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73 MAYBE TO RESTRAIN HIMSELF FROM SENDING US MORE DREGS FROM THE WINE COUNTRY.
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74 MAYBE HE'S REALLY TIMOTHY LEARY. MAYBE HE DIDN'T DO IT. I THINK HE DID
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75 DO IT. ON THE OTHER HAND, WILLY, I DON'T THINK THEY DID DO IT. MAYBE
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76 THERE'S A BUG IN THE SYSTEM. WELCOME BACK TO THE INN, BY THE WAY. PUSH
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77 ONE OF THE BODIES OUT OF A CHAIR AND REST YOURSELF.
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78 BATPOOP THE MAGNIFICENT
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79 )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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80 ^^-^^^-^^^^^-^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^-^^^-^^^^^
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81 To all:
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82 I was the one that complained about having his message erased. I am sorry if I falsely accused anyone who is innocent.
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83
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84 To Leonard:
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85 About the superconductors, I am guessing but wouldn't that mean that the loop would maintain any current that was induced
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86 in it. If so, then that would support my idea that a 0/0 situation can be satisfied by any real number. I don't have
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87 the formula for black hole decay and would appreciate it if you could dig it up.
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88 BYE BYE THE DOCTOR
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89 ^^-^^^-^^^^^-^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^-^^^-^^^^^
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90 BAT
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91
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92 at poop has to be magnificent.
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93
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94 ```````````````````````````'''''''''''''''''````````````````````'''''''''''''''
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95 _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
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96 - Doctor - your representation of the 4th dimension is fairly standard; it is -
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97 - just an extension of Euclidean geometry. It is satisfactory, however. -
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98 - If you've every seen Cosmos, the show narrated by Carl Sagan, they have -
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99 - theories on the 4th dimension. For instance, take a straight line. Connect -
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100 - lines to it so that they are all right angles to each other. You get a -
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101 - square. -
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102 - Now connect lines to the square so that all of the lines are still at -
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103 - right angles to each other. You get a cube. When you connect MORE lines to -
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104 - the cube, but still keep all of the lines at right angles to each other, you-
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105 - get a 4th dimensional figure called a tesseract. -
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106 - Moreover, Carl Sagan also pointed out that despite we do not have the -
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107 - sensory apparatus necessary to "see" a 4th dimensional tesseract, we DO have-
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108 - the necessary equipment to see its shadow. Much in the same way a 3-dimen- -
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109 - sional cube casts a 2-dimensional shadow, a 4-dimensional tesseract casts -
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110 - a 3-dimensional shadow, which by the way, looks somewhat like a cube within -
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111 - a cube connected at the vertices. -
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112 - -
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113 - Keep it coming; this is getting interesting.........................Pioneer -
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114 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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115 - P.S. To the person on Drive B (?), I do not see how we are 4-dimensional -
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116 - creatures as we (as far as we know) only exist in one time at a time. -
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117 - Also, the term "Think about it." is rather irritating to me, as it seems -
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118 - to imply that I am lazy and more thought is necessary to produce an answer. -
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119 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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120 ----------------------------------------------
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121 To All:
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122 I've been away from here for quite a while (business) and now I see that there
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123 is another here that is using my name to sign his messages. I will from
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124 now on sign my messages P.Abbus to
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125 prevent having anyone confuse
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126 me with this alleged human-being.
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127 Paul Abbus
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128 ------------------------------------------------
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129
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130 TO: ALL
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131 FROM: BACH
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132 re Current phone number and status of the CORKBOARD BBS (Stan Dolson, Van Perley SYSOPs)
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133
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134 Anyone who can help please leave a message on the BBS for BACH. Much obliged.
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135 DOC I THINK THAT THE CONCLUSION ABOUT INFINITE SOLUTIONS TO 0/0 CAN BE
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136 INFERRED BUT NOT TOO STRONGLY FROM THE EXAMPLE OF THE SUPERCONDUCTING LOOP,
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137 FOR THESE REASONS: AMPEREAGE IS A MEASURE OF ELECTRONS/SECOND PASSING
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138 THROUGH A WIRE. A GIVEN WIRE WILL HAVE A LIMIT ON ITS CAPACITY FOR ELECTRONS.
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139 IF THE WHOLE THING HAS A NET CHARGE THERE CAN BE MORE THAN JUST THE NUMBER
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140 OF ELECTRONS IN THE WIRE, BUT STILL A FINITE CAPACITY. THEREFORE THE
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141 NUMBER OF SOLUTIONS IS WITHIN LIMITS. SECOND, SINCE ELECTRONS ARE DISCRETE
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142 UNITS, YOU HAVE AN INTEGER SOLUTION. AN INTEGER SOLUTION WITHIN LIMITS LIKE
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143 THAT GIVES YOU A FINITE NUMBER OF SOLUTIONS.
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144 PRINT
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145 SINCE THE FOUR DIMENSIONS OF SPACETIME ARE THOSE WE ARE ORDINARILY
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146 CONCERNED WITH, ONE CAN SAY THAT WE ARE FOUR DIMENSIONAL OF COURSE. THAT
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147 ALL THOSE TIMES IN ONES LIFE ARE NOT NOW IS IRRELEVANT. THE FOURTH
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148 DIMENSION OF TIME IS MORE RELEVANT TO US IN DAY TO DAY THAN THE FOURTH DIMENSION
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149 OF A TESSERACT OR THE FOURTH DIMENSION OF A SCREEN ARRAY, FOR THAT MATTER.
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150 00000000000000000)))))))))))))))))))))))))BATPOOP THE MAGNIFICENT++++++++++++
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151 ============================
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152 My opinion of the 'thinking' on this system would be greatly increased if indeed people would 'think' about their messages.
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153 First, to Pioneer: We are obviously four-dimensional, even though you can't see it. We exist, we will exist, and we have
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154 existed. The fourth dimension. We cannot see this fourth dimension because our very thought processes are governed by
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155 it. But surely you could have thought of this yourself? But no, anyone irritated with the phrase 'think about it' is
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156 irritated because he recognizes that it clearly describes his problem: Lack of thought.
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157 And as for the idea of the 'tesseract', I believe you have used the incorrect word. Perhaps you meant
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158 hypercube.
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159 As for the tempest-in-a-teapot over 0/0. Mathematicians wisely leave this value undefined, why can't you?
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160 Anyone who has taken calculus (apparently a small fraction of the users on this system) recognizes that the theory
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161 of limits allows a large (infinite) number of solutions to a fraction of the form X/Y where both X and Y tend to 0.
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162 Note that this is for the LIMIT, not the actual value!
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163 As for the feeble attempt to put 0/0 in concrete terms, superconductors are not the way to go. First, current
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164 is limited by magnetic field, not by resistance. Second, magnetic flux is discrete (some day you may learn what this means).
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165 Finally, as for the discussion of black holes: I doubt whether anyone who has ever used this system has even one
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166 tenth enough mathematics and physics to begin to UNDERSTAND the significance of black holes. (Myself included). Wild ideas
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167 may be entertaining, but they don't enlighten.
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168 I'm always on the lookout for pseudoscientific nonsense, and I've found some blatant examples. One: In a non-local
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169 newspaper a few years ago, there was an article concerning the following question: Would adding salt to water cause it to
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170 boil faster? Everyone wrote in stating their theories, but the general consensus was that if adding salt to water decreased
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171 its boiling point, that would speed boiling, and slow boiling if adding salt increased the BP.
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172 Well, then the argument changed: What effect on BP did adding salt have? The answers were roughly mixed 50/50.
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173 Each person claimed to know THE TRUTH. Even many of the people whose answers were correct had terrible reasons. Fortunately
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174 I had almost completed a class on CHEMICAL THERMODYNAMICS, which meant that I not only knew the correct answer, but could
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175 calculate the precise amount the BP was changed. I could also describe WHY the effect happened. But I chose not to write
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176 in, since it was clear that the truth would not set them free.
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177 By the way, more than one of the people who got the wrong answer claimed to be science teachers for high schools/jr highs.
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178 It just goes to show....
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179 Notice that I haven't given the correct answer. Anyone know it?
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180 ===========================
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181 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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182 all:
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183 if anyone out there wants to say nasty things about me (or anything
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184 about me),just write it past column 80,my terminal slices at this point
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185 (dont most?);on the other hand,if you address me,stay within MA 76,as
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186 this allows me to read your message in NU Y mode as well.....
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187
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188 above (unsigned):
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189 bravo! a clear thinker finally lends an air of rationality to this
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190 pseudo-scientific/travel thru black holes/ 0/0 /super-conducting
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191 hodge-podge of bar-room philosophy.................
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192
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193 gregor/flowers:
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194 have eithier of you had math past algebra? or science past Chem 101?
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195 or philosophy past "Begining Logic"? or schooling past high school?
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196 (Don't answer that,Kim); if so, act like it; if not, it sure shows.....
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197
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198 The Master
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199 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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217 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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218 - Master... I have taken PRE-Algebra, Algebra I & II and a -
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219 - bit of geometry here and there. Aaron? What happened? New -
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220 - name or something? I was gonna do that myself, but you beat -
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221 - me to it. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha HA HA! -
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222 - -
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223 - To someone above, Pioneers' word for tesseract was correct. -
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224 - A "HYPERCUBE" is not a cube within a cube, but a cube aside -
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225 - a cube. This then casts a 3 dimensional shadow much like a -
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226 - tesseract, but is not! A Hypercube is one cube set aside -
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227 - themselves, at 1 cube a distance and all angles are not 90 -
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228 - degrees. The term "HYPERCUBE" referrs to the shadow. Oh -
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229 - well.... -
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230 - -
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231 - Pioneer... If you think about it for a while, the Doctors' -
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232 - theory (fact?) on the infinite number is correct. For a big -
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233 - example, divide the number 0 by 5. You get 0, because 5 -
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234 - can't go into 0. Now, divide 5 by 0, and you cant even get -
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235 - 0! This is because 0 has no incremental vaule, therefore, -
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236 - something without a incremental value must be infinite. -
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237 - -
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238 - Another thing I'd like to know.... What would happen if an -
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239 - immovable object met up with an unstobbable force? -
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240 - -
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241 - TRON -
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242 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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243 _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
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244 - This WAS an interesting discussion until people started to remark on the -
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245 - lack of other people's education. That took some of the spice out of it. -
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246 - Master, you are correct - I haven't taken enough math for discussions -
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247 - like these - they just don't teach that stuff in high school. Yet. Mostly, -
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248 - I regurgitate thoughts & ideas and various other theories while adding a -
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249 - few thoughts of my own. -
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250 - I get most of my interesting information out of Isaac Asimov's Science -
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251 - Fiction Magazine, so pardon me if it's mostly science fiction. I don't know -
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252 - too much better. -
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253 - I thought up something funny some time ago: Assume Time is infinite, i.e.-
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254 - it goes on forever and ever. Therefore, there has to be an infinite number -
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255 - of days. If there are an infinite number of days, then it stands to reason -
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256 - that there an infinite number of holidays. -
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257 - Since infinity = infinity and cannot equal any other number, every day -
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258 - should be a holiday. Unfortunately, common sense dictates that every day is -
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259 - NOT a holidy. You can find that out by looking at your calendar. -
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260 - Whether or not we are four-dimensional remains to be seen. We can think -
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261 - back through our lifetime in an instant, or imagine a time in the future, -
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262 - but does that mean we are four-dimensional? (Does that mean that that state -
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263 - ment is clear? I don't think it is.) -
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264 - I am relying on my description of a fourth-dimensional being, which, -
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265 - being a guess is necessarily insubstantial. -
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266 - Let's talk about something else since the people who are "interested" in -
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267 - this discussion can only voice derogatory comments. How about the new video -
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268 - game they are developing somewhere (Calfornia?) which is mind controlled. I -
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269 - heard that it works on the principle of the lie detector. -
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270 - What kind of reactions would the human body have if I thought: "up", -
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271 - "down", "right", "left", "backward" & "forward" ? ..................Pioneer -
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272 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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273
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275 TRON, THE EXISTENCE OF AN IMMOVABLE OBJECT DISALLOWS THE EXISTENCE OF AN IRRESISTABLE FORCE, AND VICE VERSA.
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276 IF AN OBJECT IS IMMOVABLE, THERE CAN BE NO FORCE THAT COULD MOVE IT, AND SO NO FORCE COULD BE DEFINED AS IRRESISTABLE.
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277 IF A FORCE IS IRRESISTABLE, THERE CAN BE NOTHING THAT CAN RESIST IT, AND SO NO OBJECT COULD BE DEFINED AS IMMOVABLE.
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278 THE DEFINITIONS ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, AND DISALLOW EACH OTHER. THEREFORE, NO ANSWER CAN BE GIVEN.
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279 MASTER, WHILE I APPLAUD THE LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE IN YOUR (AND UNSIGNED'S) COMMENTS, I CANNOT CONSIDER THOSE
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280 STATEMENTS AS "CLEAR THINKING", AS THEY ARE FILLED WITH AD HOMINEM ARGUMENTS, REACTION BASED ON EMOTION RATHER THAN
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281 THOUGHT, AND A GREAT DEAL OF EGO. SELF SERVING STATEMENTS AND MACHO POSTURING DON'T MAKE FOR "CLEAR THINKING".
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282
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283 [][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM.[][][][][][]
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284 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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285 pioneer/doctor:
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286 my apologies,i might have went to far...i find as my irk and ire at
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287 some of these topics increase,my propensity to stoop to name calling
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288 does also.....my apologies again.....
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289
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290 as for infinity=infinity, no, that isnt always true.....
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291 does a line segment have less points on it than an infinite line?
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292 well, yes, it does........aleph null and aleph 1 and all that jazz....
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293 Aaron
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294 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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295 ^^-^^^-^^^^^-^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^-^^^-^^^^^
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296 TO BATPOOP, MASTER, AND UNSIGNED:
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297 First of all, I did not bring up the idea of superconduction. Leonard
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298 brought it up, and the only used Ohm's law and I responded in same. I know
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299 that there is much more than Ohm's law (magnetic flux, etc.) governing the
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300 current of a semiconductor. As for the other problems encountered in using
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301 superconduction as an example (integers, etc), the are due to the nature of
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302 electrons, not the nature of 0/0.
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303 As to my education, I have had math up to calculus, general physics, and
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304 general chemistry. I'll be a freshman at OSU.
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305
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306 ERRATA: Semiconductor above should have been superconductor.
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307
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308 And to all of you who took shots at those of us who are talking about black
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309 holes, 0/0, etc., I am not too impressed by YOU either. We make no claims
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310 to be experts, physicists <sp?>, or anything else. We were only communicating
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311 some of our ideas to others who were interested. If you don't like that,
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312 don't read the messages, or better yet point out where we are wrong, I
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313 appreciate INTELLIGENT and CONSTRUCTIVE comments. After all, the purpose
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314 of this system is to have a forum to exchange ideas, and I LOVE IT!
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315
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316 TO MASTER: Did you ever flunk TACT 101? Because if you did, IT SHOWS!!!!!!!!!
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317
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318 Hey XENON, what about another puzzle...
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319
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320 Hey Charlotte, where are you?
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321
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322 Anybody else have any comments on the above?
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323
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324 BYE THE DOCTOR
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325 ^^-^^^-^^^^^-^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^-^^-^^^-^^^^^
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326 %%%%%%%
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327 %%%%%%%
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328 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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329 Doctor, I'm here, thanks for asking. But what I really want to do is talk to
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330 PAM,,
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331 Thanks for the information on the 1982
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332 Magazine. I'll make every effort to
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333 obtain it.
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334 After working with the Sexual Assault Prevention Unit in Crime Prevention at
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335 PPD, I generally agree with your comment on RAPE//
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336 Yes, a high percent of RAPES occur between acquaintances, and yes, it is very
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337 difficult to report a "date RAPE, or even worse, a "husband RAPE". However we
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338 encourage women who are RAPED, as well as the spouse or loved one to REPORT,
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339 mainly because the statistics HAVE PROVEN, (here's one for you,) that the
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340 majority of men who RAPE will repeat the Crime. This will probably cause a stir
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341 on this system but that's ok. Again, thanks for the info.
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342
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343
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344 Charlotte
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345
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346 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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347 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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348 - To all, Somewhere I heard that the scientists have discover -
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349 - ed a new solar system in the Alpha Centuri system (our twin -
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350 - star). Is this true? -
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351 - -
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352 - TRON -
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353 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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354 Answer: Scientists have discovered that surrounding a particular star, I forgot
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355 which, is a significant emission of infrared. Conclusion? This must be some form of solid matter. This may either be solid
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356 and formed like a planet, etc, or dust, rocks, boulders, etc. Scientists had never before actually demonstrated the
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357 of solid matter around a star before. (not surprising, since they're so far away.)
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358
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359 To those that complain that their education is not the issue: Yes, it IS the issue. I reference a recent article
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360 in Scientific American (month escapes me, but I'll look it up if necessary) that concerned people's misconceptions of
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361 Physics. We all know that before Newton and his laws, people believed that objects that were thrown were kept moving
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362 by the pressure of air behind them, that objects fell at speeds proportional to their weight, etc. Supposedly, that
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363 is all behind us. But on the contrary, the article described research that indicated that a large percentage of the
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364 population (in some cases over 50%) had various misconceptions along the lines of the pre-Newtonian physics. In fact,
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365 even high-school physics students were often mistaken.
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366 A number of the commonly held (and wrong) believes were totally ludicrous, while the rest were merely silly.
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367 I won't go into the details, since the article was well-written and quite interesting, but it is clear that many people
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368 aren't even qualified to discuss simple non-relativistic physics. Add to this the fact that relativistic physics is
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369 quite non-intuitive and non obvious, and is even obscure to those who've had education in it, any discussion of it
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370 on this BBS is futile and hopeless.
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371
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372 Sure, you can say that you have a "right" to talk about black holes. That's true, but you also have a "right" to believe
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373 that the moon is made of green cheese, that 144,000 fairies can dance on the head of a pin, and that pigs can fly.
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374 But until you stop displaying your ignorance of simple facts in math, physics, chemistry, astronomy, electronics, and
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375 other areas of science, we have a right to consider your opinions worthless.
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376 ][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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377 WHO WOULD WRITE A TERMINAL PROGRAM THAT DIDN'T PROPERLY WRAP AROUND PAST THE
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378 80TH COLUMN, ANYWAY? WHO WOULD BUY SUCH A PROGRAM?
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379 *******
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380 *******
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381 One t
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382
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383
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384 *******
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385
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386 One thi
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387 *******
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388 ======================
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389 go ducks !!!!!
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390 from the elusive duck
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391 ======================
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392 hello jim
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393 joeduck
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394 =====================
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395 ==================
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396 does anyone love the
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397 ducks as i do ???
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398 joeduck
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399 ====================
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400
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401 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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402 - Someone tried to imitate me and didn't do a very good job. -
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403 - Some person put an obscene message on here in an attempt to -
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404 - degrade me! All I know is that they used a 22 coulmn screen -
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405 - which only the vic 20's use and their border was QUITE in- -
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406 - correct! Watch yourself, TRON II I presume? You'll really -
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407 - have a hard time making a fool of me! -
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408 - the REAL TRON -
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409 - Sysm... Did YOU do that!?!?!?!??!!?? -
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410 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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411 **************
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412 GO DUCKS!!!!
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413 YES, JOEDUCK YOU ARE NOT ALONE; ALTHOUGH THE FIGHTING
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414 DUCKS OFTEN TRY MY PATIENCE, LIKE TODAY FOR EXAMPLE...
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415 OH WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS BASKETBALL.
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416 GO DUCKS!!!!
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417 DUCK FAN
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418 **************
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419
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420 DUCKS SUCK....ESPECIALLY TODAY....
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421 **************
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422 =====================
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423 yes, it is true......
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424 joeduck does use a 22
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425 column screen. yes,
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426 it is also true that
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427 joeduck loves the
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428 ducks as only a true
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429 green duck fan can.
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430 but joeduck never
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431 never never never
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432 uses obscenities!
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433 never!
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434 go ducks !!!!!
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435
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436 =====================
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437 ----------------------
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438 ma 79
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439 ------------------------------------------------
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440 I REALLY WISH THAT PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE TO CHANGE THE MARGIN
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441 SETTINGS WOULD ALSO CHOOSE TO SET THEM BACK TO SOMETHING THAT WAS REASONABLE
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442 AFTER THEY GET DONE WITH THEM!
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443
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444 Anyway I wonder at the motivations of the folks that have been taking up an awful lot of time with arguments that
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445 a freshman in college hasn't seen since day one. I really would like to see a
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446 little less ego and a LOT more creativity on this board, I've seen it before
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447 and I know that you folks can pull it through again. Please you are looping
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448 through this and it is getting rather tiresome.
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449 With Respect,
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450 P.Abbus
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451
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452 ---------------------------------------------
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453 Research Mode:
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454 I would like to know why YOU bought a computer.
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455 What do you use it for now?
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456 What would you like to use it for?
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457 What aspect of computers scared you the most?
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458 How did you over come your fears of computers?
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459 What do you think that the average person would like to see forom their
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460 computer?
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461 Why is your attention span so short?
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462 What could your computer be used for (please disregard the previous
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463 question, consider it a parity error).
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464
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465 How much would you pay for a program that would make your mini a
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466 worth more to you (extra RAM and peripherals not included).
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467 Bruce T.
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468 ********************************************************************
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469 PAM: I would agree with your assesment of the unsigned person. Unfortunatly
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470 it appears that your comment has left no impact upon the person. (Would a
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471 baseball bat help?) The person spoke of erroronious statements and conclusions,
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472 yet the very diatribe that was left was filled with those very things!
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473 Ah well, There are those who would be afraid to explore the dark allies
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474 and side streets for fear of discovering they might be wrong.
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475 Charlotte: I notice that you speak only of female rape, what of male rape?
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476 (I can hear it now from certain quarters of the Inn "There is no such thing
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477 as male rape!" But indeed, what is rape? It is taking with out permission.
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478 Typically rape is confused with arousal and permission. Sexual arousal is a
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479 base emotion, and has little to do with permission. Many women who are raped
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480 have been sexually aroused during the act, but that does not mean that the
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481 permission is given. The same is true of a man, while it specifically is
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482 required that the man be sexually aroused for the rape to take place, that
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483 does not automatically presume permission. Of course this whole concept is
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484 buried under the major aspect of rape which is of the female being raped.
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485 It is highly uncommon for a male to be raped. In a way perhaps this is some
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486 kind of statement on our society? I find the whole thing disgusting myself.
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487 It is a shame that a crime such as this exists, and a shame that it will
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488 probabally be here a thousand years from now. (Assuming that we are still
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489 here, of which I have my doubts.)
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490 ******* CISTOP MIKEY ****** 11 SEPT 83 ****** 2:30AM *******************
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491 ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THE RUSSIANS SHOTTING DOWN THE 747?
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492
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493 ****************************************
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494 TO: Bill Bigoni
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495 From: Mike Roland
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496 Bill I need to get ahold of you this sunday
|
||
497 Kevin's brother is in town and would like to visit the children! So call as soon as possible!!!!
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498 Thanx 0
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499
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500 x
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501
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502
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503
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504
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505
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506
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507 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
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508
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509 While it is apparent that there are those using this BBS who would be
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||
510 likely to take up brain surgery after having a high school class on anatomy,
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511 (even TRON inadvertantly proved that zero is infinite) I doubt that animousity
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512 toward these persons will in any way disuade them or enhance the board
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||
513 for other users. The nature of this board provides an opportunity for
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514 those who noone would normally listen to, to make their opinions (qualified
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||
515 or not) known. BBS's are likely to always be applied differently by
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516 various users: Information medium, instrument of fantasy, ego-trip, comedy
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517 hour, etc. LET IT BE!
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518 Perhaps in the near future BBS's will be more specialized as to the users
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519 interests. In the mean time I would
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||
520 suggest to those who tend to delve
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||
521 into areas in which they are not familiar, that they merely qualify
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522 their statements as opinion, lest they be taken as fact. A small compromise.
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523 Dirty Ol' Man
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524
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525 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
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526
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527 FIRST TIME ON BWMS. I HAVE USE OF SPAIT TIME ON THE COMPANYS NORTHSTAR HORIZON AND WOULD LIKE TO MEET SOMEONE
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528 THAT KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT.
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529 J MAC
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530 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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531 Some people would argue that homosexuality is harmless to those caught up in it
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||
532 and to American society in general. Mikey's comment brings up another in the
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||
533 list of harms caused by homosexuality: male rape is not uncommon in the homo-
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534 sexual world and its periphery. If rape is a manifestation of violence, then
|
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535 homosexual males are supporting the incidence of violence in our society (read
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536 "our downtowns and our neighborhoods"). Dave
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537 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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||
538 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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||
539 yes, Mike, a clear distinstion and a point well worth making........
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540
|
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541 as to dave: (preface: i am not homosexual )
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542
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543
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||
544 ignoring the absurdity of your last note, I extend an invitation:
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545
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546 What are the OTHER elements in the "list of harms"
|
||
547 caused by homosexuality?
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||
548 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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||
549
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550 TO ALL
|
||
551 FROM ROBAT
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||
552 SUBJECT::: CORKBOARD BBS PHONE NUMBER
|
||
553
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||
554 654-9352
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||
555
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556 THAT IS ALL...
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||
557
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558 EXIT
|
||
559 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
|
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560
|
||
561 By the way, in response to line 617 on previous disk (now B), NO, I
|
||
562 would not want to perform rape with a toroidal black hole. The tidal
|
||
563 forces would rip my ..... into subatomic particles.
|
||
564
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565 Dirty Ol' Man
|
||
566
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||
567 DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~DOM~
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||
568 TO: ALL RE: 0
|
||
569 Just a thought, particularly to those who have programed in basic or some
|
||
570 other high level langauge. Think back on that last time you had a fight
|
||
571 with your program when you were writting it. Particularly involving the
|
||
572 division by zero that was hapening because you were feeding the equation
|
||
573 a zero in one of the variables. Now remeber how ticked off yo were because
|
||
574 you had to specifically trap for zero to handle it since the program would
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||
575 blow up everytime it hit that point. Now think upon how many times it
|
||
576 either would not have mattered it the value had been zero, or you really
|
||
577 did want it to be zero with a result out of the equation as zero. How many
|
||
578 of you out there would much rather have had a zero result rather then
|
||
579 an ERROR stop? This is a quiz, the answers will be seen by all...
|
||
580 The idea behind all this, is that while adhering to exact rules of math
|
||
581 can be nice in most cases, there are areas that the rules may be more
|
||
582 trouble then they are worth particularly if they don't fit the appilcation.
|
||
583 (If everybody would rather have a zero result returned, then maybe
|
||
584 something is wrong with the rule.) (Now I'm probably in trouble with the
|
||
585 mathmaticians here, they tend to get very irrate when someone questions
|
||
586 their rules, since it is all they have to work with.)
|
||
587 ****** CISTOP MIKEY ********* SEPT 11, 1983 ****** 11:30 AM *************
|
||
588 If you think that's difficult, consider the solution to 0 to the zero-th
|
||
589 power. What is it? what do you think it is? Why? (I know the answer, it'
|
||
590 s actually defined.)
|
||
591 ----------------------
|
||
592 MIKE, YOUR PHRASE "BASIC OR SOME OTHER HIGH-LEVEL LANGUAGE" ASSUMES THAT
|
||
593 BASIC IS A HIGH-LEVEL LANGUAGE. TALK TO DIJKSTRA OR WEIZENBAUM ABOUT
|
||
594 THIS.
|
||
595 ////////////////
|
||
596
|
||
597 RHI,YALL... NEW SIGN IN, HERE...
|
||
598 RE: KAL 007 TRAGEDY... AS OF 111 SEPT 83 NEWS REPORTS 'FALSE' TRANSLATION
|
||
599 OF RUSSIAN PILOTS' CONVERSATION PRESENTED TO U-N SEC. COUNCIL BY U.S.A.
|
||
600 NEW TRANSLATION INDICATES THERE ACTUALLY WERE CANNONS FIRED (WARNING SHOTS?)
|
||
601 AT THE 747. I KNOW THAT DOESN'T MAKE THINGS ANY BETTER, BUT WE ARE BEING
|
||
602 LIED TO BY both SIDES. ALSO, THE SOVIETS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TESTING
|
||
603 A NEW ANTI-MISSILE THAT SAME NIGHT.
|
||
604 WILL THE TRUTH EVER BE KNOWN?
|
||
605 ............................................................................
|
||
606 RE: HARMS CAUSED BY HOMOSEXUALITY... WHAT ABOUT HARMS CAUSED BY
|
||
607 HETEROSEXUALITY? SUCH AS OVER POPULATION, ETC. THERE IS NO REAL E
|
||
608 DIFFERENCE, ASIDE FROM THE OBVIOUS,
|
||
609 STEREOTYPES, BAR BRAWLS, RUDE PEOPLE, BARFING ON THE FLOOR, TOO MANY DRUGS,
|
||
610 CONVENTIONAL TWERPS... EVEN BIGOTRY AND RACISM. I BELEIVE TTHESE PROBLEMS
|
||
611 ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE TO EITHER HETERO- OR HOMOSEXUAL SCENES. WHY DON'T WE
|
||
612 TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON OUT COMMON INTERESTS RATHER THAT REASONS TO EXCLUDE A
|
||
613 SEGMENT OF HUMANITY. EVEN NON-GAYS GET A.I.D.S.!
|
||
614 --STAR-DUCK
|
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615 How do you know this?
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||
616 _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
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617 - Well, I have my own private theories about the way the 747 wandered into -
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||
618 - Soviet airspace. My favorite theory was suggested to me by my General Elec- -
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||
619 - tronics teacher at Parkrose High School. -
|
||
620 - His theory goes something like this: as some of you may know, there is a -
|
||
621 - worldwide radio-network designed to keep planes on course. Pilots just dial -
|
||
622 - in the right number and the autopilot follows the radio beam. -
|
||
623 - In America, most 747s have at least four pilots in the cockpit. All of -
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||
624 - the pilots have to agree on the course set before the plane can take off. In-
|
||
625 - this way, no mistakes are made. In certain foreign airlines, the captain is -
|
||
626 - considered to be the supreme ruler - his decision is law. Thus, he could've -
|
||
627 - dialed in the wrong number and no one would've questioned him.......Pioneer -
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628 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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629 Wee! I got the last disk...the last disk...the last...the last...the...the.....
|
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