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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
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2 ************************ REMOVED: 9 JAN 83 ***********************
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3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator
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4 ************************************************************
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
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6 THIS SYSTEM.
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7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
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9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system.
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10 It is intended that the system be normally used for messages and
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11 advertisments by the users. As the system is privatly owned, I retain the
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12 right to remove any and all messages from the system which are offensive
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
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14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
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15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
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16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
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17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
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18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
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19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
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20 use the replace command to replace the line.
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21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
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22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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23 ========================================
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24 Sorry about that, anyway here's a new disk for ya.
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25 It seems that the usage of the system has gone up
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26 radically of late, like befor I was having to change
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27 disks about once every month or two. It is now less
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28 then two weeks befor the drive overflows.
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29 ++ I'm popular!!!! ++
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30 To those of you who have left comments in regard to me and
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31 the system, THANK YOU.
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32 It is nice to know you are apperciated (yes, I know it is
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33 spelled wrong, but what else is new?).
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34 In regard to my pervious comment on FLEX/OS9. I do not
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35 change my feelings in regard to these operating systems.
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36 It is not that they are bad per sa, but rather I find
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37 that CP/M (which I use) to be far better for my needs.
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38 Anouther point I might make is that I cut my hardware teeth
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39 on the 6502 (Original engineering sample - no rotate right
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40 and a bug on branching over page bounderies). I still like the
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41 6502, and infact there are some things that the 6502 can do
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42 faster then any other MOS processor (yes even the 8088!).
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43 (Please compare proper technologies here.
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44 Take a look at the clock timing charts.
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45 8080-8085-Z80 JMP - 10 clocks 6502 JMP - 3 clocks
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46 8080-8085-Z80 NOP - 4 clocks 6502 NOP - 2 clocks.)
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47 Assuming a top speed Z80B, at 6Mhz (P.S. a 6Mhz 8085 has a
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48 real internal clock rate of 3Mhz.) compared to a 3Mhz 6502B
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49 we can run even or better on the most used instructions.
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50 and with the 6502C at 4Mhz it's faster.
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51 Accually, the real test of how good a proccesor is at speed
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52 is how efficent it is at accessing its memory. If if processor
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53 accesses its memory at the fastest possible rate, that is all
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54 the speed it needs. (It is pointless to crunch the data faster
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55 and then just sit there waiting for the memory to give you the
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56 next instruction.)
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57 Anyway, I use a Z80 now running CPM. This is because it is more
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58 suitable to the things I am doing, and the information base
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59 is far far larger for 8080/Z80 stuff of the sort I need.
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60 So although I like the 6502, I use the Z80 because it gets
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61 the job done.
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62 *** YET EVEN MORE VERBAGE FROM CISTOP MIKEY **** 22 DEC 82 ******
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63 ADAM,
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64 THANKS FOR COMMENTS, YES, THE LINKASM DOES SUPPORT SYMBOLS
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65 BY TYPING THE DRIVE NAME AFTER EVERYTHING ELSE (LINKASM TEST.AAZ A:)
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66 AS TO IF IT WILL WORK WITH SID, I DON'T KNOW AS I HAVE NOT TRIED
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67 IT. ALTHOUGH SINCE WARD SAYS IT DOES I WOULD SAY IT IS A VERY GOOD
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68 BET THAT IT DOES (JUST GOT MY COPY OF CBBS, AND HE TALKS ABOUT IT
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69 IN THERE SAYING THAT HE ADDED THE SYM FEATURE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT
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70 REASON!). I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A NEWER VERSION OF LINKASM OUT,
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71 DID IT COME WITH THE SOURCE? I HAVE BEEN POKING AROUND IN IT TO
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72 SEE IF I COULD MODIFY IT TO ASSEMBLE ACROSS DRIVES, BUT IT WOULD
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73 BE EASIER TO DO IT FROM THE SOURCE OF COURSE. P.S. AMODEM2 IS
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74 COMMING ALONG FAIRLY WELL THE DIRECTORY DIAL IS NICE! STILL GOT A
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75 BUG SOMEWHERE THAT CAUSES IT TO BLOW ON EXCESSIVE ERRORS. HOPEFULLY
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76 I CAN FIX IT IN TIME TO RELEASE IN JAN LIKE I SAID I WOULD.
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77 ************ MIKE ******** 23 DEC 82 *************************
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78
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79 Many instructions on the 8088/8086 take NO time at all!
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80
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81 M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S !!
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82 AND
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83 H A P P Y N E W Y E A R
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84 TO ALL BWMS USERS AND THE
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85 SYS-OP TOO. MAY THE FOLLOWING
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86 YEAR BE GREAT FOR US ALL AND
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87 FOR *ALL* COMPUTERS...
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88 *RICK* 23DEC82 7:16PL
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89 **==**==**==**==**=<**==
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90 I would recommend you read the 8088 manual, they most certainly
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91 do take time.
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92 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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93 TO: ALL USERS FM: CISTOP MIKEY RE: MSG FOLLOWS
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94
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95 I WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS. I WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS.
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96 I WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
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97 (WAS I IN TUNE?) MAY THE ARGUMENTS FOR THE NEW YEAR BE
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98 AS LIVELY AS THE OLD!
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99 ******** 23 DEC 82 ******** CISTOP MIKEY O'COURSE **************
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100
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101
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102 To : All
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103 From: Tom
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104
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105 How about:
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106
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107 If you've got the time, weh've the beer?
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108
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109 Is that good enough ?????? I also know:
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110 Don't say beer, say bull.
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111 Christmasy enough for 'ya?
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112
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113 Got a snow capped mountain outside my door...
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114 Got a beer called Blitz don't need no more...
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115 Got two good reasons for living here...
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116 The country's best country and the country's best beer!
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117
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118 THIS MESSAGE REPLACE BY THE PHANTOM GLITCH.
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119 MERRY CHRISTMAS, EACH AND EVERYONE!..... the Phantom Glitch.
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120 HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO
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121 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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122 MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL YOU HOSEHEADS FROM YOU LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD
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123 SANTA CLAUS.....
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124
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125
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126 NNBBS BACK UP AND RUNNING....CALL xxx-xxxx &
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127 "TEST" IT OUT....RUNNING ON A
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128 RADIO SHACK LEVEL II BASIC....
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129
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130 NAME CHANGE COMING SOON...WATCH THIS SPACE FOR ANNOUNCEMENT...
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131 --------------12/24/82
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132 **************************************
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133 HOW about some atari users adding a few messages here.
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134 We have a superior machine and I think we should show these C/PM users it's
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135 true.
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136 ************************ jim ***********************************************
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137
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138 Just a point of note: The 8088 jmp takes 14 clock cycles to perform
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139 The 8080/8085/Z80 jmp takes 10 clock cycles, and the 6502 jmp takes
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140 3 clock cycles. A simple register to register move takes 2 clock
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141 cycles in the 8088, 4 clocks in the 8080/8085/Z80 and 2 clocks in
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142 the 6502.
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143 It would seem to me that this 8 year old micro can still hold its own
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144 ground against the lastest and greatest and at a heck of a lower cost.
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145 So why do I continue to use a Z80? probably because there is far and
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146 away more software available for my needs that needs a 8080/Z80 to run.
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147 **** MORE RAMBLINGS FROM CISTOP MIKEY **** 24 DEC 82 **************
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148
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149
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150 HOW ABOUT USING THIS SERVICE TO TRANSFER SOME REAL INFORMATION INSTEAD
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151 OF REACTIONARY BULLSHIT. LORD KNOWS IT'S HARD LEARNING TO USE ONE OF
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152 THESE DAMN BOXES.
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153 I HAVE AN OSBORNE. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN ATARI ALSO, HOWEVER, JUST
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154 BECAUSE THE GAMES ARE SO INCREDIBLE. SCRAM IS THE MOST REALISTIC SIM-
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155 ULATION I HAVE SEEN OF A NUCLEAR PLANT. AS A FORMER OPERATOR AT TROJAN
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156 I FEEL I CAN CLAIM SOME EXPERTISE. THE ENERGY CZAR GAME IS EXTRAOR-
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157 DINARY ALSO. IF THE COMPUTER CAN SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT SOPHISTICATED,
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158 IT MUST HAVE A FEW THINGS GOING FOR IT.
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159 ANOTHER TOPIC. WHY IS THERE SO MUCH VARIATION BETWEEN RCP/M'S. THE
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160 BEAVERTON ONE SEEMS WELL RUN AND HAS LOTS OF CAPACITY, BUT THEY DON'T
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161 HAVE ANYWHERE NEAR THE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT OLYCPM OR THE MISSAUGA
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162 CPM IN CANADA HAS. ARE OREGON RESIDENTS JUST NOT PARTICIPATING?
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163 A LIKELY REASON, SINCE THAT IS THE SOURCE OF PROGRAMS.
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164
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165
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166 *************************************************************:
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167 Well, I for one have contributed! In fact, you will find a whole
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168 section of the Beaver town RCPM dedicated to my programs. Admittedly,
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169 the major share of them are from my AMODEM series. There are a number
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170 of reasons for the current state of the system. The system is rather new,
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171 and the CPM users group here is rather active. (Why waist time pulling
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172 the program over the phone lines when you can go to a meeting and get
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173 a copy free.) As a result only things that are of immediate interest
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174 seem to get there. (This does not mean new, lots of old stuff there of
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175 interest. I just pulled the Z80 resource off it myself recently which has
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176 been around for a while, but I only recently had a need.) I kind of view
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177 it as a remote data base for programs I may need sometime. (Why yank
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178 stuff off it if I don't need it? I got enough full disks as it is!)
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179 It is indeed a very neat system (as opposed to BWMS which is just strange!)
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180 +++++ BY THE NEVER TO BE DETERRED CISTOP MIKEY +++++ 25 DEC 82 +++++++++++
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181 P.S. HAD A GOOD XMAS, WAS UNABLE TO GIVE AWAY MY COLD HOWEVER, ALAS...
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182 THE GIFT THAT KEEPS GIVING AND GIVING AND GIVING AND GIVING...........
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183 **********************************************************************
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184
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185 YOU WILL OF COURSE BE HAPPY TO NOTE THAT THE COLD YOU GAVE ME FOR
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186 CHRISTMAS HAS JUST BLOSSOMED INTO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL ON THE FIRST
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187 DAY OF MY VACATION -
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188
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189 THANX HEAPS THE PRINCE
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190
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191 What do you give the man who has everyting?
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192 Antibiotics, of course?
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193 the Phantom Glitch.
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194
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195 Anybody out there that is rich, and doesn't want to stay that way
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196 should go out and buy a 212 type modem; and then call CBBS
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197 on xxx-xxxx with it. Just try to read the message headers when
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198 you scan them at 1200 baud. Messages are great to "R" though;
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199 no waiting at all.
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200 Mike, be sure not to do it to this system: it is hard enough
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201 to take this tripe without it coming at you 4 times as fast.
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202 ...................................B.A.D........12-26-82/23:38.....
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203 TO: B.A.D. FM: CISTOP MIKEY RE: 212 MODEM
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204 HAVE NO FEAR.. REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT OF THIS SYSTEM.
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205 THAT BEING IT MUST NOT COST MONEY TO INSTALL. SO UNLESS A 212
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206 JUST HAPPENS TO FALL IN MY JUNK BOX AND I HAVE NO OTHER NEED
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207 FOR IT, (I FIND THIS ALL EXTREMLY HARD TO IMAGINE!!!) BWMS
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208 WILL STILL POKE ALONG WITH THE OL' 103 MODEM.
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209 *************** 27 DEC 82 **************************************
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210 DEAR PRINCE WELL AT LEAST I GAVE YOU SOMETHING! NOW TELL ME
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211 WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN WORST, THE PARTS OR THE COLD? (HARD
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212 CHOICE ISN'T IT?)
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213 ***********************************************************
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214
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215 ARE YOU THE SAME PRINCE WHO MAKES ALL THE RACIAL SLURS IN BLACK PEN ON THE
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216 BACK OF SEATS IN TRI-MET BUSSES?
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217
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218 Following is what is confirmed on the release of the new Atari 1200XL.
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219 First, note that this new machine is strictly a marketing and production
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220 ploy: Atari needs a fresh machine to promote and the new model is cheaper
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221 to produce. Actually, the 800 appears the preferred model now.
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222 64k, 2 joysticks, sealed unit. No expansion, no access. One cartridge
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223 slot on side. Self diagnostics. 256 colors with 15 -count 'em - fifteed
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224 graphics modes! (so the OS now supports ANTIC modes 4,5, and 15.)
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225 One serial port, apparently not RS 232.
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226 No mention made of printer port.
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227 Memo pad mode eliminated.
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228 Rest is cosmetics or minor features such as four function keys intended for
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229 applications programmers to define in their software. Help key is RAM
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230 vectored so programmers can do what they will with it.
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231 More details in the PAC newsletter which went out today (Dec 28).
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232 cu -- Pat
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233
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234 EXIT
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235
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236 One final holiday note -- BAH HUMBUG!!
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237
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238
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239 SO aRATi will try to get us to buy another little piece of crap. Bah Humbug
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240 indeed! Who needs 'em.
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241
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242 "FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE, NO EXPLANATION IS NECESSARY.
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243 FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE, NO EXPLANATION IS SUFFICIENT."
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244 FROM THE MOVIE, "SONG OF BERNADETTE," A LONG, LONG TIME AGO.
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245
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246 *************** 12/29/82 2:22PM ******************
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247 There is a new system to spread the word on. It is
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248 called the BIT BUCKET. It is BRAND NEW, and still
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249 may have bugs. Right now it is kind of limited, but
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250 I plan future expansion. Hours will be variable, so
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251 if you don't get any response, assume that it is down
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252 for enhancements/bug fixes/personal system use.
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253 Data rate is 300 baud. Phone is xxx-xxxx. Once modems
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254 hook together, hit two RETURN's, and things will start
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255 up. Have fun. The BIT BUCKET.
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256 *************** 12/29/82 2:26PM - END MESSAGE *****
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257
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258 MESSAGE TO ALL:THE TI 99/4A IS DEFINITELY THE BEST COMPUTER FOR THE MONEY.
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267 TO:ALL HAPPY NEW EAR
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268 ****
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269 FROM: BIT BUCKET
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270 TO: ALL
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271 DUE TO UNEXPECTED SOFTWARE PROBLEMS, THE BIT BUCKET SYSTEM
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272 IS DOWN UNTIL THINGS GET FIXED. I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG
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273 THIS WILL TAKE. I APPRECIATE THE CALLS THAT I HAVE GOT
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274 SO FAR, AND HOPE THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK UP THAT YOU WILL
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275 CONTINUE TO CALL AND USE IT. I WILL POST MESSAGES ON
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276 THE OTHER BULLITEN BOARD SYSTEM INFORMING YOU OF THE
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277 PROGRESS. THANKS AGAIN, AND SORRY FOR THE PROBLEMS.....
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278 RICK BENSENE, BIT BUCKET.
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279 ************* 12/30/82 10:30PM ***********************
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280
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281 MESSAGE TO ALL: THE TI99/4 IS A REAL PILE. IT IS A TOTAL WASTE
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282 OF MONEY. PLEASE DO NOT BUY THIS COMPUTER.
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283 THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPUTERS THAT ARE FAR MORE
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284 POWERFUL FOR THE SAME MONEY, OR A LITTLE
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285 MORE. WOULD YOU WANT TO BE CAUGHT WITH A DEVICE
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286 FROM TERRIBLE INSTRUMENTS?
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287
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288 Actually the TI-99/4a is pretty nifty machine. The problem is with TI.
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289 Texas Inst. computer division (as apposed to the printer and parts division)
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290 really does believe: "We don't care, we don't have to...". Even if they change
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291 their tune, and there is some evidence they are trying, it may be too late.
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292 Too bad, really, the '99 has got some great potential.
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293 the Phantom Glitch.
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294 1/1/83
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295
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296 XxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxX
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297 Actually, I agree with PG about the TI.
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298 It isn't really a BAD machine... it just
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299 could be better. If you are looking for
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300 a good cheap computer, you should also
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301 consider the Atari 400 or the VIC 20.
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302 The Timex/Sinclair ZX81 is interesting,
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303 except for the keyboard, and for $79.95
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304 (lowest price I saw during Xmas), you
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305 can't go wrong.
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306 The Man
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307
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308 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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309 To Ben Dover (F.C.)
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310 Phone Phreaking? If you're still
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311 interested, so am I. Lemme know.
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312 The Man
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313 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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314 Seen in the Sunday Paper:
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315 ATARI 400...........$199.95
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316 ATARI 800...........$499.95
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317 TI 99/4.............$299.95 less $100 rebate, $199.95
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318 VIC's and other things at equally low prices.
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319 This was in the TOY'S R US ad.
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320
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321 NOTE: the local ATARI Computer distributor is droping the line.
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322 Moore is picking it up. If you think that there have been a lot of
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323 whores in this market.... Just watch! Even Stereo Stupid Store is showing
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324 signs of unease.
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325 the Phantom Glitch.
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326 ======================================== 1/2/83 ===========================
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327 p.s. a small dealer's cost on a ATARI 400 is about $240.00.......
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328
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329 79
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330 rams for PMMI, SMARTMODEM, Serial I/O.
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331 test versions as of March 1, 1982.
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332 Digital Research "MAC" macro assembler required.
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333
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334 NUMBER SIZE NAME COMMENTS
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335 CATALOG.079 CONTENTS OF CPMUG VOL. 079
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336 GFORM.LIB CPMUG program submittal form.
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337 RCKFILE.079 CRC file for verification.
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338 CK.COM
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339
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340 OR THE Potomac Micro Magic Inc (PMMI)
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341 M-103 MODEM (also serial I/O):
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342
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343 16K MODEM7.DOC Documentation for MODEM 7 and higher.
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344 Originally from CP/M UG Volume 47.
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345 079.2 14K MODEM7.LIB MACLIB file for use with MODEM741.ASM.
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346 79.3 66K MODEM741.ASM Assembler source for MODEM version 7.41.
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347 .4 10K MODEM741.COM Object code of above program.
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348 4K MODEM741.SET Patching instructions for MODEM741.COM.
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349 6 1K MODEM7X.BUG Bug report.
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350 FOR THE DC HAYES SMARTMODEM:
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351 9.7 85K SMODEM37.ASM Assembler source for SMODEM version 3.7
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352 079.8 26K SMODEM37.DOC Documentation for the above program.
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353
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354 CP/M and MAC are trademarks of Digital Research Inc.
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355 HAYES and SMMARTMODEM are trademarks of DC HAYES.
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356 PMMI, MM-103, and Potomac Micro Magic are trademarks of Potomac Micro Magic.PU
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357 CP/M Users Group
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358 651 Third Ave.
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359 w York, NY 10028
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360 DESCRIPTION: Cromemco Structured Basic programs
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361 by David E. Trachtenbarg:
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362 Mail list programs.
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363 pelling programs.
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364 . Statistical programs.
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365 . Misc. other programs.
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366 NUMBER SIZE NAME COMMENTS
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367 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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368 I KNOW THIS BBS IS STRANGE, BUT IN RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE.
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369 HUH?!!!!!!!!!
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370 ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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371 TO ALL: I THINK THE TI HAS TO MANY DOWNFALLS - FOR ITS PRICE.
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372 IT HAS A sTRANGE PROCESSOR (ONE OF THE 9900 FAMILY)
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373 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ISN'T VERY WELL SUPPORTED BY OTHER
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374 COMPANIES BECAUSE OF: 1.WEIRD PROCESSOR 2.TI DOESN'T
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375 PROMOTE OTHER COMPANIES DEVELOPEMENT OF SOFTWARE AND/OR
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376 HARDWARE FOR THIS COMPUTER.
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377 IT DOES HAVE POTENTIAL (I.E. BECAUSE OF ITS HARDWARE FEATURES)
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378
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379 BUT IN TODAY'S MARKET, A COMPUTER MUST BE WELL SUPPORTED BY
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380 HARDWARE/SOFTWARE - AND TI DOESN'T PROMOTE THIS IN THE LEAST.
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381
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382 ANOTHER THING- - THE TI99/4A'S KEYBOARD IS ONE OF THE MOST
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383 DIFFICULT TO TYPE ON (EXCEPT FOR THE MEMBRANE KEYBOARDS)
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384 IN ORDER TO USE MOST OF THE FUNCTION KEYS, E.G. BACKSPACE - ETC.
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385 YOU MUST FIRST HOLD DOWN EITHER THE SHIFT OR CONTROL TO USE
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386 THE FUNCTION - IF YOUR'RE PRONE TO MAKING MISTAKES, THIS WOULD
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387 GREATLY SLOW YOU DOWN.
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388
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389 ALSO, THE BASIC LANGUAGE IS ONE OF THE WORST THAT I HAVE SEEN
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390 IT IS VERY FORMAT ORIENTED (IT REQUIRES A SPACE BETWEEN GO
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391 AND TO IN THE STATEMENT GOTO!)
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392 PERSONALLY, I WOULD NEVER BUY THE COMPUTER FOR 299.00
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393 (O.K, 299.00 MINUS 100.00 FACTORY REBATE THAT YOU SEND IN,
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394 AND A MONTH OR TWO LATER GET YOUR MONEY)
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395
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396
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397 *****************THE ETERNAL SYSM DAVID GREENMAN****************
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398 ******************* 01/03/1983 1:26 A.M. ***********************
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399
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403
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404 TO STAN DOLSON
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405 I AM A FRIEND OF LYLE'S.DO YOU HAVE
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406 ANY APPLE SOFTWARE OR HAVE A FRIEND
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407 WHO HAS ANY? MY USER GROUP WOULD BE
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408 INTERESTED IN SOFTWARE EXCHANGES IF
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409 POSSIBLE.
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410 LEAVE REPLY ON LYLE'S SYSTEM FOR
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411 CHAN BECKER
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412
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413 ========================================
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414 first meeting of Portland Area
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415
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416 Timex/Sinclair Users Group
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417
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418
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419 Saturday Jan. 8 9:00am to 3:00pm
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420 Smith Memorial Hall room 292
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421 Portland State University
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422
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423 ========================================
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424
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425
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426 HAHAHA!!! Now even a Timex/SINclair users group. What are you going to do,
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427 stand around and talk about what you can cook on teflon keyboards!
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428 Will blunders ever cease?
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429
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430 *****************************************************************
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431
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432 I DEFINATELY AGREE! MAYBE THEY'LL HAVE A GREAT AMERICAN COOKOUT
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433 ON IT!
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434
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435 +++++++++++++ THE SYSM DAVID GREENMAN +++++++++++++
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436
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437 A LSO --
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438
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439 FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED...
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440 I HAVE SEVERAL BBS AND RCP/M TELEPHONE NUMBERS:
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441
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442 (503) 761-xxxx BIT BUCKET
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443 (503) 641-xxxx RCPM
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444 (503) 654-xxxx DISCONNECTION-80
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445 (503) 621-xxxx CP/M
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446 (503) 646-xxxx CBBS
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447 (503) 284-xxxx CBBS
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448 (503) 657-xxxx BMS...DUH!!
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449 (503) 281-xxxx CONNECTION-80
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450
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451 YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE TO TRY:
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452
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453 (503) 255-xxxx (MCESD)
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454
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455 AND
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456 (503) 232-xxxx COMPUSERVE
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457 (503) 232-xxxx COMPUSERVE
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458
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459 THE THREE ABOVE REQUIRE PASSWORDS...GOOD LUCK IN GETTING IN!
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460
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461 HAPPY DIALING... THE SYSM.
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462
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463 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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464 TO: MIKE DAY FM: ADAM TRENT DT: 1/4/83 SJ: LINKASM,Z80
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465 HI MIKE - I picked up the new version of LINKASM (as files
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466 LASM.OBJ and LASM.DQC on the Olympia RCPM to the best of my
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467 recollection--just happened to stumble on it while long distance
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468 browsing. I would have lusted after the source but, alas, I
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469 didn't see it anywhere. The .DOC is virtually the same as the
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470 previous one except for a short preface about the small addition.
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471 LASM shows you a running account on the console of each source
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472 module as it's handled in both pass one and pass two. This is
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473 convenient -- the only difference I have been able to detect
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474 however. If it isn't on the Beav. RCPM, I'll try to put these
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475 two files on the system. Also, I agree somewhat about Z80 vs
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476 9900, 6502, etal. Actually, as someone who built an 8008 computer
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477 in 1974, I may be hopelessly biased. But, I've never been THAT
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478 impressed with the Z80 itself. The ZILOG architects paid a heavy
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479 price for object code compatability with the 8080--if you look
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480 at T-state specs on 8080 vs Z80 (as I did once again recently)
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481 the preselector bytes take a heavy toll. And I bet there are
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482 10 systems running straight 8080 code on the Z80 (ala CP/M-80),
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483 NOT using the "full power" of the Z80 for every 1 system that
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484 does use the Z80-unique instructions. I recently did some
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485 calculations to investigate whether Direct Threaded Code (DTC)
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486 had a performance edge over Indirect Threaded Code (ITC) on
|
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487 the 8080. While doing this I also decided to compare using
|
||
488 the Z80 index registers in the inner interpreter of a FORTH I
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489 am playing with (on a Z80 KAYPRO). I concluded that DTC had
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490 a 20% performance edge over ITC and that, for the same clock
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491 speed, the Z80 had only a marginal 2% to 5% edge over the 8080
|
||
492 subset architecture. True, there is simply more registers and
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493 thus more flexibility in the Z80 but for some applications
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494 (like threaded interpreters) the advantages don't seem that
|
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495 compelling. Incidentally, for implementing threaded code,
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496 the 6809 is far superior to the Z80. I wish Motorola had
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497 brought out the 6809 at the same time as the Z80 had come out.
|
||
498 I would rather see a bigger audience now for the 6809. They
|
||
499 seem to have cought up somewhat with the 68000. Unfortunately,
|
||
500 market shares gained often overpower architectural elegance
|
||
501 for software developers. 1/4/82 - Adam Trent, Black Belt Programmer.
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||
502
|
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503 P.S. Still to Mike Day
|
||
504 Just called up the Beav. RCPM and sent LASM.DQC and LASM.OBJ to
|
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505 it--you'll find them on A7--Wonder why "SECTION NEWPRGS" doesn
|
||
506 t work on the RCPM. - A.Trent
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507 *******************************************************
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508 NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE
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509 O C
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510 T P. C. S. MEETING LOCATION CHANGE I
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||
511 I T
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||
512 C The Portland Computer Society will not O
|
||
513 E be meeting at the Far West Federal any N
|
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514 . more. .
|
||
515 N E
|
||
516 O We will now be meeting at the P.C.C. C
|
||
517 T Sylvania campus at 12000 SW 49th. I
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||
518 I The meeting time is 15 Jan 83 at 1:15 PM T
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||
519 C Doors open at 1:00 PM. Room ST-B14 O
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520 E Everyone is Welcome! N
|
||
521 . .
|
||
522 N P.S. The Feb meeting is the 19th, and the E
|
||
523 O March meeting is the 19th also. C
|
||
524 T I
|
||
525 I The Sylvania campus is just off I-5 T
|
||
526 C about 1/4 mile past the Mcdonalds. O
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||
527 E N
|
||
528 . .
|
||
529 NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE.NOTICE
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||
530
|
||
531 Adam. I am interested in getting the new LASM, I will be
|
||
532 calling RCPM to get it off. (Maybe it will help me figure
|
||
533 out the bbeast on my disasembly.) If I get it disassembled
|
||
534 i'll let you know, and possibly put a copy on RCPM.
|
||
535 Thanks for the info.
|
||
536 ***** CISTOP MIKEY ****** 4 JAN 83 **********************
|
||
537 QUESTION FOR THE TIMEX/SINCLAIR USER GROUP: IS IT TRUE
|
||
538 THAT IT TAKES A SHOOTING AND KEEPS ON COMPUTING???
|
||
539 ********THE GREAT GAZORBAWITZ********1/4/83***********
|
||
540
|
||
541
|
||
542 QUIT
|
||
543
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||
544
|
||
545
|
||
546 ****************Calling Pat Warrenshuis!******
|
||
547 My cheepo Signalman modem works beautifully.
|
||
548 I'll need to talk to you about doing some file uploads and
|
||
549 downloads Whose BB will take them? Any problem with 80
|
||
550 character wide files? Call me or leave a message on BWMS.
|
||
551 Golly gee whiz this is neet!-dan h. xxx-xxxx
|
||
552 ** to BIG DAN from Pat Warnishoeiss**
|
||
553 Glad you like the micromodem. Eugene ACE people use many
|
||
554 of them an all are satisfied. If I did not anticipate BBS
|
||
555 use here, that's what I would have bought. Hayes is nice,h
|
||
556 though, except for price.
|
||
557 Next month is modem month as theme for PAC meeting. Please
|
||
558 contact Jim Stibik on CBBS so you can report your experiences
|
||
559 You're our only signalman that I know of.
|
||
560 We can download/upload using Jonesterm. If you do not have
|
||
561 Jonesterm, call me xxx-xxxx and we can probably figure a way
|
||
562 to download it to you.
|
||
563 Nice to hear from, BIG DAN!!
|
||
564 ....cu...Pat.
|
||
565
|
||
566 *************************************************************
|
||
567 I never considered the Timex/Sinclair a real computer
|
||
568 since it can't think and display at the same time,
|
||
569 but if the forgoing anouncement was placed there
|
||
570 using the timex/Sinclair, I might be inclined to
|
||
571 change my mind. ???
|
||
572 *********************************************************
|
||
573 Who says the Timex/Sinclair can't think and talk at the same time?
|
||
574 (Chewing gum at the same time by the operator is anouther mater thou.)
|
||
575 You are probably thinking of the ZX80 of which this was true (unless
|
||
576 it has the 8K basic ROM upgrade in it.) What the ZX81 does have is a
|
||
577 operation mode which allows the display to be turned off to speed up
|
||
578 the computing, but at 300 baud this is hardly needed! In fact a lot of
|
||
579 the old ZX80's are running out there on the old 4K basic ROMs with
|
||
580 simultaious display via a special program mod (They move the display
|
||
581 routines into RAM where the program can get at and use them.)
|
||
582 *** AN OLD ZX80 USER *** CISTOP MIKEY *** 5 JAN 83 **************
|
||
583 P.S. I don't have it any more, I gave it to my dad. It was a nice play
|
||
584 toy, but I really didn't have any use for it. I do have a TINY WUMPUS
|
||
585 game written for it that runs within the 1K of RAM. (It eats into the
|
||
586 display RAM a bit, but runs ok I will) If anyone is interested I will
|
||
587 put a copy of it here.
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588 **********************************************************************
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