2242 lines
79 KiB
Plaintext
2242 lines
79 KiB
Plaintext
read new nonstop follow
|
|
92037 12-MAR 15:15 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: CDL Basic demo (Re: Msg 91989)
|
|
From: FHOGG To: AJMLFCO
|
|
|
|
>Would he care to respond...
|
|
|
|
I think his best responce would be to get 2.4 to those who were promised it. As
|
|
he is not on Delphi he would likely not respond to you on the forum. I did
|
|
forward your message to him.
|
|
|
|
If you want to talk to him he can be reached at 314/236-4372.
|
|
|
|
Frank
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92045 12-MAR 23:19 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: CDL Basic demo (Re: Msg 92037)
|
|
From: AJMLFCO To: FHOGG
|
|
|
|
Thanks for taking my complaint graciously.
|
|
|
|
Allen Morgan
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92038 12-MAR 16:04 Telecom (6809)
|
|
RE: infoexpress? (Re: Msg 92033)
|
|
From: GREGL To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
I don't think it could have been that long enough considering I received
|
|
my license in July 1993. I did find two Mike Browns in Kentucky. One is
|
|
KD4UXW in Richmond and the other is KM4IY in Liberty. Like I said, KM4IY
|
|
sure does sound familiar to me -- almost smacks me in the face (g) but I
|
|
can't put a voice or a face with the call.
|
|
|
|
I doubt I can get into the Somerset repeater from here. I think that one's
|
|
on 146.880 and we have another 146.880 repeater here in Louisville.
|
|
|
|
-- Greg
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92043 12-MAR 22:43 Telecom (6809)
|
|
RE: infoexpress? (Re: Msg 92038)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: GREGL
|
|
|
|
> I don't think it could have been that long enough considering I received
|
|
> my license in July 1993. I did find two Mike Browns in Kentucky. One is
|
|
> KD4UXW in Richmond and the other is KM4IY in Liberty. Like I said, KM4IY
|
|
> sure does sound familiar to me -- almost smacks me in the face (g) but I
|
|
> can't put a voice or a face with the call.
|
|
|
|
I'd say the's the one.. This Mike stands about 5' 8" tall.. Somewhat plump.
|
|
He has a dark beard, curly-headed.
|
|
|
|
RE: the time.. it might have been before you got your license, seems when
|
|
I first mentioned you, he asked had you gotten your license, so it could
|
|
have been a while ago.. seems like he did say it had been a while.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92039 12-MAR 16:25 General Information
|
|
RE: Rick Cooper (Re: Msg 86570)
|
|
From: CFDMRICK To: THETAURUS
|
|
|
|
Chris...I'm on Delphi as CFDMRICK and can be found in the CoCo Sig most of the
|
|
time. Please leave a message in my mailbox as to how I can be of assistance.
|
|
CFDMRICK
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92040 12-MAR 18:58 General Information
|
|
RE: Internet IRC (Re: Msg 92034)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: JEJONES
|
|
|
|
> > bit under $3000. I don't know about quad-speed.. I don't know about
|
|
> the > future, but I've seen a couple of reviews and articles where they
|
|
> say > that as of now, you can't really realize the extra performance from a
|
|
> > quad-speed CD-ROM...
|
|
>
|
|
> Depends. "N-tuple speed" CD-ROM drives are really only N times as fast
|
|
> on large sequential reads. When you start doing random access, their
|
|
> advantage falls off fast.
|
|
|
|
That's basically what I've been seeing.. Plus, some claim that the less-
|
|
than-fastest CPU's cannot utilize the extra speed for many things.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92050 13-MAR 01:30 General Information
|
|
RE: Internet IRC (Re: Msg 92017)
|
|
From: WA2EGP To: CHARLESAM
|
|
|
|
I have several platforms here including an MPC machine. I'm not as impressed
|
|
as I thought I would be. Now if I or someone really knowledgable wrote
|
|
some software that did what those PCs with the CD drives, I think OSK would
|
|
really show it's stuff. Take a look at CD-i to see what OS-9 can do.
|
|
AS far as speed in the PCs for graphics, I got the Lion King Storybook for
|
|
my son. The mouse animation on my MM/1 is so much better in animation. It
|
|
might be because of using a hard drive versus a CD drive but it does llok
|
|
oops, look better (sorry Disney).
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92054 13-MAR 23:04 General Information
|
|
RE: Internet IRC (Re: Msg 92050)
|
|
From: CHARLESAM To: WA2EGP
|
|
|
|
I'll have to look at CD-i prior to making a decision but I have a few months
|
|
to do my shopping, so no-problem. If I get to Chicago, I'll get a good look.
|
|
Thanx Charlie
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92041 12-MAR 18:58 General Information
|
|
RE: Pentium SNAFU (Re: Msg 92035)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
> my son telling the "You know why Intel didnt call the Pentium the 586...."
|
|
> joke. Of course, I had to phone Intel to report the problem with the new
|
|
> chip, and, of course, the Intel guy wanted some info on my system which
|
|
> required me to boot up..... He didn't laugh.
|
|
|
|
Could be that they are beginning to have a pretty short fuse by now.. <G>
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92042 12-MAR 20:49 General Information
|
|
MM/1 Screen Saver Idea
|
|
From: BOISY To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I've been thinking about the problems associated with getting screen
|
|
savers to work on the MM/1. One problem I see is finding out reliably if
|
|
the mouse and/or keyboard has been touched.
|
|
|
|
Normally, a screen saver program waits for some predetermined length of
|
|
time before it kicks in. I envision a user state process which sleeps
|
|
for 'n' seconds. When the process awakes, it invokes a screen saver and
|
|
goes back to sleep. Some "master" process would monitor the keyboard and
|
|
mouse to see if either has generated an interrupt. If so, it sends a signal
|
|
to the user state process. If the user state process is sleeping and hasn't
|
|
activated its screen saver, it starts sleeping for the total time 'n'. If
|
|
it receives a signal while the screen saver routine is active, it shuts that
|
|
off, restores the window and goes back to sleep for 'n' seconds.
|
|
|
|
The problem is: there's no easy way to tell if the mouse has been moved,
|
|
save doing a constant _gs_mous() which wastes unecessary amounts of CPU time.
|
|
The keyboard is also a challenge, since some keys (like SysRq and Scroll Lock)
|
|
do not return a character to the application.
|
|
|
|
I think I've found a way to do this on the MM/1 fairly easily.
|
|
|
|
Both the keyboard and mouse are interrupt driven devices. If you do an
|
|
'irqs' command on the MM/1, you should see something like this:
|
|
|
|
IMS MM/1 68340 11MB System OS-9/68K V3.0 (max devs: 32, max irqs: 32)
|
|
|
|
vector prior port addr data addr irq svc driver device
|
|
------- ----- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------
|
|
26 (2) 1 $009fffe1 $007f9d84 $0001d0be windio w2 (?)
|
|
28 (4) 1 $00e00281 $007c7a20 $00012818 sc68681 t3
|
|
28 (4) 2 $00e00000 $007f7170 $00026ce0 scsi_mm1a
|
|
28 (4) 5 $00e00381 $007f9d30 $000146d6 msdrv
|
|
29 (5) 3 $009ffc00 $00000000 $000104ba tk68901
|
|
29 (5) 5 $009ffc41 $007f9d84 $00013ab2 keydrv
|
|
29 (5) 9 $009ffcc1 $007da4e0 $000250b2 rb37c65 d0
|
|
100 2 $fffff780 $007f9d84 $00014a2e snddrv
|
|
101 2 $fffff7a0 $007f7170 $00026cea scsi_mm1a
|
|
101 2 $fffff7a0 $007da4e0 $00025146 rb37c65 d0
|
|
|
|
This may differ on a 68070 based MM/1 (could someone with an 070
|
|
please send me their 'irqs' output?) By installing an interrupt
|
|
service routine on vectors 28 and 29, we can "borrow" interrupts from
|
|
our neighboring devices down the chain.
|
|
|
|
Look at vector #28. Currently, three devices are using that vector
|
|
for interrupts. Each device has an associated priority which determines
|
|
its position in the interrupt polling chain.
|
|
|
|
____________ ____________ ____________
|
|
| 1 | | 2 | | 5 |
|
|
| |______| |______| |
|
|
| sc68681 | | scsi_mm1a | | msdrv |
|
|
| | | | | |
|
|
------------ ------------ ------------
|
|
|
|
When an interrupt comes into a vector, the interrupt service routine
|
|
(ISR) for that driver determines if the interrupt belongs to that device
|
|
by checking its hardware. If the interrupt does belong to that device,
|
|
it is serviced, and the ISR returns with the carry flag clear. If
|
|
however, the interrupt does not belong to that device, then the ISR
|
|
returns with the carry flag set, and the kernel calls the ISR of the
|
|
next device down the chain.
|
|
|
|
So if an interrupt came in that belonged to 'msdrv', the ISR of sc68681
|
|
would be called first. Since the interrupt belongs to msdrv, sc68681 would
|
|
return with the carry flag set. The kernel would then call scsi_mm1a and
|
|
the same thing would occur. When the kernel calls msdrv, the ISR sees that
|
|
the interrupt is for the mouse, services it, and returns to the kernel
|
|
indicating the interrupt was serviced.
|
|
|
|
We can install an ISR with a priority of 3 or 4 which will sit between
|
|
scsi_mm1a and msdrv. So when an interrupt comes in for the mouse, our
|
|
ISR gets it first. It can then send a signal to a user state process
|
|
which handles the screen saving duties. The user state screen saver
|
|
program can then act on the signal accordingly. Once the ISR sends
|
|
the signal to the user state process, it "lies" by setting the
|
|
carry flag and returning to the kernel so that the interrupt can really
|
|
be serviced by msdrv.
|
|
|
|
|
|
The keyboard vector (#29) makes it somewhat more difficult on my system:
|
|
|
|
29 (5) 3 $009ffc00 $00000000 $000104ba tk68901
|
|
29 (5) 5 $009ffc41 $007f9d84 $00013ab2 keydrv
|
|
29 (5) 9 $009ffcc1 $007da4e0 $000250b2 rb37c65 d0
|
|
|
|
An ISR could be installed at priority 4, but it might catch the interrupt
|
|
of keydrv, or it might catch the interrupt of rb37c65. The good news is
|
|
that the priority of the keyboard driver can be changed by using moded or
|
|
dEd to modify the IRQ priority field in the /term and /w* descriptors.
|
|
The key is to make the keyboard and mouse ISRs be the last devices on
|
|
that vector by adjusting their priority, and leaving at least one position
|
|
between it and the next to last device so that our screen saver ISR can be
|
|
installed.
|
|
|
|
Thoughts?
|
|
--
|
|
Boisy G. Pitre
|
|
Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us Delphi: BOISY
|
|
|
|
"Character is what you are in the dark." -- D. L. Moody
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92044 12-MAR 23:15 General Information
|
|
RE: SCSI Host Adapter (Re: Msg 91993)
|
|
From: AJMLFCO To: DAVID106
|
|
|
|
No, I would not assume that. The data sheets show the same
|
|
type of info for my Quantum 240Meg SCSI and it does do 256 byte
|
|
sectors (Which is a good thing since I'm still stuck with OSK 2.3).
|
|
Why not give it a try? By the way, I have a Seagate 40 Meg SCSI
|
|
harddrive on the CoCo-3 thanks to the SC-II and the 4n1 board. One
|
|
time when I was in the mood for experimenting, I took it out and plugged
|
|
it into the OSK machine. OSK had no complaints! So now, the way I
|
|
defragment the CoCo hard drive is to have the OSK machine copy the data
|
|
out, "deldir" from the root, and then dsave the files back. It still
|
|
takes ahout an hour, but it's much better than using floppies.
|
|
|
|
Allen
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92046 12-MAR 23:37 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92019)
|
|
From: AJMLFCO To: RANDYKWILSON
|
|
|
|
Also, one can take the SCSI drive and later use it with most
|
|
quality PC's as the majority of CD-ROMs are SCS
|
|
|
|
Allen
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92047 12-MAR 23:43 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92025)
|
|
From: AJMLFCO To: ISC
|
|
|
|
I helped install a new IBM 9920-170 mainframe at work and it used
|
|
SCSI hard drives. Our Tandem computer also uses SCSI, and the Sparc stations,
|
|
and the HP9000's and the Novell fileservers...Come to think of it, about
|
|
the only thing that doesen't is the PC clone desktop units.
|
|
|
|
Allen
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92051 13-MAR 15:32 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92047)
|
|
From: ISC To: AJMLFCO (NR)
|
|
|
|
> I helped install a new IBM 9920-170 mainframe at work and it used
|
|
> SCSI hard drives. Our Tandem computer also uses SCSI, and the Sparc stations,
|
|
|
|
> and the HP9000's and the Novell fileservers...Come to think of it, about
|
|
> the only thing that doesen't is the PC clone desktop units.
|
|
>
|
|
> Allen
|
|
>
|
|
Hee, hee. Time to invest in SCSI companies!
|
|
|
|
Bill
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92053 13-MAR 22:58 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92019)
|
|
From: CHARLESAM To: RANDYKWILSON
|
|
|
|
I love my scsi drive especially since adding Matt Thompson's SCSISYS. I just
|
|
don't see any scsi drives for sale in the big stores. I'd love to get my hands
|
|
on a ST-277-N-1(65meg) so I can backup up my existing drive. I bought one at
|
|
the Cocofest but when I got it home I couldn't get it to run. Gave it to Keith
|
|
(REVKAK) to play with. My HD is very sensitive to jolts. Its crashed twice alr
|
|
already. I won't move it any more, unless I get a backup. I'll find something
|
|
soon. Thanx Charlie
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92057 14-MAR 01:00 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92053)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: CHARLESAM
|
|
|
|
Try JEM Computers (617-497-2500) they have SCSI HDs at great prices... Not sure
|
|
if any support 256 byte sectors, but just for examples, they have a Conner
|
|
CP-3100 (104 meg) for 59$ (reburb), and Quantum ELS127S (127 Meg)
|
|
for 89$ (NEW!)... And for real space needs... a Seagate ST41650 (1.4G)
|
|
for 399$ (NEW!)... They also carry lots of other great bargins. I plan
|
|
on getting one of he 1.4 gig drives for my BBS, and a Quantum 127 meg for
|
|
my MM/1 in the next few weeks...
|
|
--
|
|
Paul
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92072 16-MAR 22:35 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92057)
|
|
From: DSRTFOX To: MITHELEN
|
|
|
|
On 14-MAR 01:00 MITHELEN said to CHARLESAM
|
|
> Try JEM Computers (617-497-2500) they have SCSI HDs at great
|
|
>prices... Not sure if any support 256 byte sectors, but just for
|
|
>examples, they have a Conner CP-3100 (104 meg) for 59$ (reburb), and
|
|
>Quantum ELS127S (127 Meg) for 89$ (NEW!)... And for real space
|
|
>needs... a Seagate ST41650 (1.4G) for 399$ (NEW!)... They also carry
|
|
>lots of other great bargins. I plan on getting one of he 1.4 gig
|
|
>drives for my BBS, and a Quantum 127 meg for my MM/1 in the next few
|
|
>weeks... --
|
|
> Paul
|
|
|
|
There is one other problem with SCSI drives!! The Mac drives should work
|
|
fine with a CoCo, but not all PC drives will. The PC uses a parity check bit
|
|
even on the hard drive. If you can't turn this parity bit off (Seagate's
|
|
have a jumper), you can't use it on a Mac or CoCo!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Francis (Frank) Swygert
|
|
Publisher, "the world of 68' micros" Magazine
|
|
|
|
`[1;34;43mRainbow V 1.11 for Delphi - Registered
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92075 17-MAR 01:42 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92057)
|
|
From: CHARLESAM To: MITHELEN
|
|
|
|
Thanx Paul, the prices quoted sound like my ballpark. I have SCSISYS so I can
|
|
handle 512 sectors. I'll call them this weekend. Regards Charlie
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92080 17-MAR 21:52 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92075)
|
|
From: REVKAK To: CHARLESAM
|
|
|
|
Charlie,
|
|
Forget the Conner Cp 3100 as it is for a "green PC" and requires the
|
|
appropriate drivers and/or hardware. I have one that will not talk
|
|
to my Disto 4in1 with or without SCSISYS 256 or 512 sectors. It is on
|
|
its way back after I got a call from JEM yesterday explaining the
|
|
situation.
|
|
|
|
It seems that it powers down after now activity to save power. The hitch
|
|
is that the driver must send a hex code to wake it up and wait for power
|
|
up and then read or write to it. (now = no)
|
|
|
|
Hope this saves some headaches trying to get an incompatible drive going.
|
|
|
|
Best wishes, Keith
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92085 18-MAR 00:43 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92072)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: DSRTFOX (NR)
|
|
|
|
> The Mac drives should work
|
|
> fine with a CoCo, but not all PC drives will. The PC uses a parity check
|
|
> bit even on the hard drive. If you can't turn this parity bit off
|
|
> (Seagate's have a jumper), you can't use it on a Mac or CoCo!!
|
|
|
|
I know all about that stinking jumper <G>.. I worked about a week trying
|
|
to get my ST1096N working on my coco.. At that time, Seagate had a BBS.
|
|
I dloaded a file for it, It had a diagram using IBM graphics to show all
|
|
the jumpers etc, but the meaning wasn't clear when displayed on the coco,
|
|
and my printer at that time didn't support IBM graphics, so it still didn't
|
|
help me.. I finally got it working, and it was a real thrill seeing that
|
|
thing format... I was beginning to get kind worried <G>
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92090 18-MAR 02:33 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92072)
|
|
From: LMCCLURE To: DSRTFOX (NR)
|
|
|
|
Are you sure you don't have that reversed? I ask as:
|
|
|
|
(1) PC's do not have SCSI interfaces as standard equipment, so whether
|
|
parity would be required would be up to the interface, and likely
|
|
differs from one to another.
|
|
|
|
(2) AFAIK, the Mac *does* require parity. Having an Atari STe, I am aware
|
|
of this due to the fact that some host adapters for it cannot
|
|
handle parity, and it has been noted that drives intended for use
|
|
on the Mac have parity enabled.
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92091 18-MAR 11:04 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92080)
|
|
From: CHARLESAM To: REVKAK
|
|
|
|
Yeah, I'm going to stay with a scsi drive. I'm having headaches getting my
|
|
Disto 4in1 board up and running. I also need info on the 6551a chip in the
|
|
controllers and paks. Which pin is the IRQ line? I'm supposed to jumper it
|
|
to pin 40 on the connector. I have no idea which pin it is. This is all part
|
|
of Cocokiwi's IRQ hack. I'm home this weekend if you have time to get over.
|
|
Thanx much Charlie. PS*** As always, Linda has baked some cookies and the
|
|
coffee pot is always going. Later....
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92096 18-MAR 16:54 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92090)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: LMCCLURE
|
|
|
|
> Are you sure you don't have that reversed? I ask as:
|
|
|
|
> (1) PC's do not have SCSI interfaces as standard equipment, so whether
|
|
> parity would be required would be up to the interface,
|
|
|
|
> (2) AFAIK, the Mac *does* require parity.
|
|
|
|
I'm not sure which would be which, but the Disto Controller, at least,
|
|
does *NOT* use it. My Seagate came with the parity pins jumpered,
|
|
(enabled), and I had to remove it.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92097 18-MAR 16:54 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92091)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: CHARLESAM
|
|
|
|
> Yeah, I'm going to stay with a scsi drive. I'm having headaches getting
|
|
> my Disto 4in1 board up and running.
|
|
|
|
What are your problems? (was it you who was asking about parity?)
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92101 18-MAR 22:13 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92080)
|
|
From: LMCCLURE To: REVKAK
|
|
|
|
"Forget the Conner Cp 3100 as it is for a "green PC" and
|
|
requires the appropriate drivers and/or hardware."
|
|
|
|
"It seems that it powers down after no activity to save
|
|
power. The hitch is that the driver must send a hex code
|
|
to wake it up and wait for power up and then read or write
|
|
to it."
|
|
|
|
Most 3.5" SCSI drives have this capability, but it is either under the
|
|
control of a jumper, or by a software command sent after the initial
|
|
spin-up.
|
|
|
|
The capability pre-dates "green PC's" even, as 3.5" drives were first used
|
|
in notebook computers, where power is at a premium.
|
|
|
|
Even my old 1.6" high (half-height) Connor CP340 3.5" hard drive obeys a
|
|
software command to power down until a command to read or write is sent.
|
|
I do not know if it can be jumpered to default to this mode, because I
|
|
have no info on it's jumper settings, and they are unmarked (except for
|
|
the SCSI ID jumpers on the bottom of the drive).
|
|
|
|
(NOTE: That last bit is a hint for anyone having the data on what the
|
|
jumpers on the front of a Connor CP340 do to e-mail me). <grin>
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92102 18-MAR 22:21 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92101)
|
|
From: REVKAK To: LMCCLURE
|
|
|
|
Are you using that Conner CP340 on a PC or on a CoCo? If on a CoCo,
|
|
what interface are you using? Disto, Kenton, or other? Also which drivers
|
|
are you using? Maybe I can get this thing going! Thanks for the reply.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92106 19-MAR 01:00 General Information
|
|
SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92102)
|
|
From: LMCCLURE To: REVKAK
|
|
|
|
"Are you using that Conner CP340 on a PC or on a CoCo?"
|
|
|
|
Neither actually. I am using it on an Atari ST (with an ICD AdSCSI+ host
|
|
adapter).
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92107 19-MAR 01:02 General Information
|
|
SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92096)
|
|
From: LMCCLURE To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
"I'm not sure which would be which, but the Disto Controller,
|
|
at least, does *NOT* use it. My Seagate came with the
|
|
parity pins jumpered, (enabled), and I had to remove it."
|
|
|
|
From what I understand from ST users that have purchased new SCSI drives,
|
|
most ship with parity enabled.
|
|
|
|
Just be glad you did not get a Quantum ELS-series drive. Those do not even
|
|
have a jumper to disable parity. That is set via software, and if your
|
|
machine cannot handle parity, you have two choices: (1) Find a machine
|
|
that can, and use it to disable parity, or (2) return the drive to Quantum
|
|
and have them do it.
|
|
|
|
I am not certain if the newer, larger Quantum drives have kept this, or
|
|
returned to a more sensible jumper arrangement for controlling parity.
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92108 19-MAR 01:08 General Information
|
|
SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92102)
|
|
From: LMCCLURE To: REVKAK
|
|
|
|
If the Connor you have has the same jumper setup as my old CP340, this
|
|
might help. On the bottom of the drive are 4 jumpers, marked "E", "2", "3",
|
|
and "4". The ones labled 2-3 are the three SCSI ID jumpers. I have no idea
|
|
what "E" is, but I do recall I could not get the drive to work without it
|
|
enabled. I do know it cannot be "enable parity" as the "E" might imply, as
|
|
the old host adapter I had when I first got the drive could not handle
|
|
parity. The front of the drive has the following jumper setup:
|
|
|
|
o o o o o o
|
|
o o o o o
|
|
|
|
I have no idea what these jumpers do, except that the lonely pair to the
|
|
extreme right are for the activity LED. None of these are jumpered on my
|
|
CP340.
|
|
|
|
I hope this is of some help to you.
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92110 19-MAR 10:00 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92097)
|
|
From: CHARLESAM To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
I don't recall asking anything about parity. Anyway, I have Nitros9, ScsiSys,
|
|
2 meg board, MPI(which I'm not sure was upgraded since when I open the cover
|
|
I can't see anything that looks like an upgrade)3024, DistoSC-II, and of course
|
|
a 4in1 board. I've attached a 9v source to j4. Installed the Scsisys.4in1.mp.dr
|
|
but on boot, I never do get to the HD. I'm thinking of backing up and try a
|
|
unNitros'd boot without the MPI, and leave out the SCSISYS. If I get it to work
|
|
then, I'll add one change at a time till I find the problem. This a challenge
|
|
now
|
|
so I'm in till I cry or if I get lucky till it works. Thanx Charlie
|
|
PS- Any suggestions will be gladly accepted. Later...
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92113 19-MAR 12:28 General Information
|
|
RE: SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92107)
|
|
From: RANDYKWILSON To: LMCCLURE
|
|
|
|
The two Quantum drives I have here, a LPS105S and a LT730S both have
|
|
jumpers to enable parity. They are shipped with the jumpers installed,
|
|
also strapped to id #6. I would guess one reason behind this is that it
|
|
is the most convenient place to store the jumper blocks for shipping.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Randy
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92124 19-MAR 20:14 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92110)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: CHARLESAM
|
|
|
|
> I don't recall asking anything about parity. Anyway, I have Nitros9,
|
|
|
|
I asked because someone had asked and was not sure who it was..
|
|
|
|
> ScsiSys, 2 meg board, MPI(which I'm not sure was upgraded since when I
|
|
> open the cover I can't see anything that looks like an upgrade)3024,
|
|
> DistoSC-II, and of course
|
|
> a 4in1 board. I've attached a 9v source to j4. Installed the
|
|
> Scsisys.4in1.mp.dr
|
|
> but on boot, I never do get to the HD. I'm thinking of backing up and try a
|
|
> unNitros'd boot without the MPI, and leave out the SCSISYS.
|
|
|
|
That might be a good idea. You might ought to leave SCSISYS in, though
|
|
(maybe backing off on it if all else fails).
|
|
|
|
> If I get it to work
|
|
> then, I'll add one change at a time till I find the problem. This a
|
|
> challenge now
|
|
> so I'm in till I cry or if I get lucky till it works. Thanx Charlie
|
|
> PS- Any suggestions will be gladly accepted. Later...
|
|
|
|
Does it access the drive at all - that is, will it activate the light?
|
|
Ummm.. there couldn't be the possibility you have your cable on backward,
|
|
could there?
|
|
|
|
If it accesses the drive but returns an error, you might look into the
|
|
parity bit thing, if you haven't already. My Seagate 1096N has a jumper
|
|
that enables parity checking, and it had to be removed before it would
|
|
work.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92127 20-MAR 00:17 General Information
|
|
RE: IDE HDs (Re: Msg 92124)
|
|
From: CHARLESAM To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Nah, I removed the only jumper at the get go some time back. My drive works
|
|
fine with my Kenton controller. I did reverse the cable a few times but when
|
|
I start over as planned, I'll have to do that if I still don't have sucess.
|
|
I may have asked some questions regarding parity when I was trying to get a
|
|
second HD running. I gave up on that project and turned over the drive to a
|
|
friend. He's more knowledgable about these things and maybe he'll get it
|
|
working. I have three days off this week so I'll start from scratch. Thanx
|
|
for feedback. I'll keep you posted. Charlie
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92138 20-MAR 22:15 General Information
|
|
RE: SCSI Hard Drives (Re: Msg 92113)
|
|
From: LMCCLURE To: RANDYKWILSON
|
|
|
|
"The two Quantum drives I have here, a LPS105S and a
|
|
LT730S both have jumpers to enable parity."
|
|
|
|
I'm not surprised about the Quantum LPS105S, as it is of the same series
|
|
and generation as my LPS52S, which has an "EP" jumper.
|
|
|
|
Oddly enough, my older Conner CP340 must have a jumper installed to
|
|
disable parity, rather than enable it. (I discovered from the SCSI FAQ
|
|
that was what the "E" jumper on my CP340 was).
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92048 13-MAR 00:36 Programmers Den
|
|
cbdemo and G-Windows
|
|
From: PAGAN To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Someone sent me a copy of the cbdemo file from CI$ which has a
|
|
workable copy of cbdemo. Naturally I tried to use it with
|
|
G-Windows immediately. Using it with the G-Windows libraries isn't
|
|
as easy as it seemed it would be.
|
|
|
|
First I tries defining my Window_Set() and auto_events() functions:
|
|
|
|
#FCN Window_Set(8)
|
|
#FCN auto_events(8)
|
|
#LIB /dd/GWINDOWS/LIB/wmlib.l
|
|
|
|
The compiler returned:
|
|
------------------------- snip -------------------------
|
|
#FCN Window_Set(8)
|
|
^
|
|
Invalid symbol name in line 26
|
|
#FCN auto_events(8)
|
|
^
|
|
Invalid symbol name in line 27
|
|
------------------------- snip -------------------------
|
|
Well, OK. The function names are longer than the 9 character
|
|
maximum so I shouldn't've really expected this to work.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Next I truncated the names to 9 characters:
|
|
|
|
#FCN Window_Se(8)
|
|
#FCN auto_even(8)
|
|
#LIB /dd/GWINDOWS/LIB/wmlib.l
|
|
|
|
This was better but the Window_Se() wasn't recognized when I tried
|
|
to call it:
|
|
------------------------- snip -------------------------
|
|
dummy=Window_Se(winpath,0,W_Gadget,gadgets,1,0,0,0)
|
|
|
|
^
|
|
Undefined symbol in line 35
|
|
dummy=Window_Se(winpath,0,W_Event,WEV_Close,4747,0,0,0)
|
|
|
|
^
|
|
Undefined symbol in line 36
|
|
dummy=Window_Se(winpath,0,W_Enable,1,0,0,0,0)
|
|
|
|
^
|
|
Undefined symbol in line 37
|
|
------------------------- snip -------------------------
|
|
|
|
|
|
OK, maybe upper case is causing it to choke. So I trys:
|
|
|
|
#FCN window_se(8)
|
|
#FCN auto_even(8)
|
|
#LIB /dd/GWINDOWS/LIB/wmlib.l
|
|
|
|
VIOLA! I made it to the linker before spitting me out. I'll skip
|
|
all he unresolved references from function found in wmlib.l because
|
|
they could be resolved by linking in the appropiate library and
|
|
defining the needed global variables from cstart.a. What I'm not
|
|
sure can be resolved easily is:
|
|
------------------------- snip -------------------------
|
|
Symbol 'window_se' unresolved.
|
|
Referenced 3 times by psect 'gtest' in file 'RELS/gtest.r'
|
|
Symbol 'auto_even' unresolved.
|
|
Referenced by psect 'gtest' in file 'RELS/gtest.r'
|
|
------------------------- snip -------------------------
|
|
|
|
Any suggestions? Beside creating a special G-Windows library for
|
|
CDL basic? That would mean stepping thru every Window_Set() and
|
|
Window_Get() etc to determine the getstat/setstt being used and I
|
|
like C programming just fine.
|
|
|
|
Stephen (PAGAN)
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92052 13-MAR 20:57 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: cbdemo and G-Windows (Re: Msg 92048)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: PAGAN
|
|
|
|
> Using it with the G-Windows libraries isn't
|
|
> as easy as it seemed it would be.
|
|
|
|
Hmmm.. You'd think that since Frank supports G-Windows, this would
|
|
be high on his priorities.
|
|
|
|
> I made it to the linker before spitting me out.
|
|
|
|
> Symbol 'window_se' unresolved.
|
|
> Referenced 3 times by psect 'gtest' in file 'RELS/gtest.r'
|
|
|
|
> Any suggestions? Beside creating a special G-Windows library for
|
|
> CDL basic? That would mean stepping thru every Window_Set() and
|
|
> Window_Get() etc to determine the getstat/setstt being used and I
|
|
> like C programming just fine.
|
|
|
|
Well, if one were serious about it, could you create an intermediary
|
|
file to do something like this?
|
|
|
|
window_se: bra Window_Set
|
|
...etc...
|
|
|
|
This would preserve the stack, and it would return back to the original
|
|
calling function when the G-Windows function was done.
|
|
|
|
This could be assembled to be a library file perhaps.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92049 13-MAR 00:39 General Information
|
|
VIRUS ALERT !!
|
|
From: MRUPGRADE To: BOISY
|
|
|
|
I pass you this file Uploaded to COCOLIST From: "Bob Billson"
|
|
|
|
From the cypherpunks mailing list.
|
|
|
|
People - please note! The following new computer viruses have been
|
|
detected in or around the US. Please be alert for them when you
|
|
scan your computers.
|
|
|
|
AT&T VIRUS: Every three minutes it tells you what great service you
|
|
are getting.
|
|
MCI VIRUS: Every three minutes it reminds you that you're paying too
|
|
much for the AT&T virus.
|
|
POLITICALLY CORRECT VIRUS: Never calls itself a "virus", but instead
|
|
refers to itself as an "electronic microorganism."
|
|
RIGHT TO LIFE VIRUS: Won't allow you to delete a file, regardless of
|
|
how old it is. If you attempt to erase a file, it requires
|
|
you to first see a counsellor about possible alternatives.
|
|
DAN QUAYLE VIRUS: Their is sumthing rong wit your komputer, ewe jsut
|
|
cant figyour out watt!
|
|
GOVERNMENT ECONOMIST VIRUS: Nothing works, but all your diagnostic
|
|
software says everything is fine.
|
|
FEDERAL BUREAUCRAT VIRUS: Divides your hard disk into hundreds of
|
|
little units, each of which does practically nothing, but all
|
|
of which claim to be the most important part of your computer.
|
|
|
|
GALLUP VIRUS: Sixty percent of the PCs infected will lose 38 percent
|
|
of their data 14 percent of the time. (plus or minus a 3.5
|
|
percet margin of error.)
|
|
TEXAS VIRUS: Makes sure that it's bigger than any other file.
|
|
|
|
ADAM AND EVE VIRUS: Takes a couple of bytes out of your Apple.
|
|
|
|
CONGRESSIONAL VIRUS: The computer locks up, screen splits erratically
|
|
with a message appearing on each half blaming the other side
|
|
for the problem.
|
|
|
|
AIRLINE VIRUS: You're in Dallas, but your data is in Singapore.
|
|
|
|
FREUDIAN VIRUS: Your computer becomes obsessed with marrying its own
|
|
motherboard.
|
|
|
|
PBS VIRUS: Your programs stop every few minutes to ask for money.
|
|
|
|
ELVIS VIRUS: Your computer gets fat, slow and lazy, then self
|
|
destructs; only to resurface at shopping malls and service
|
|
stations across rural America.
|
|
|
|
OLLIE NORTH VIRUS: Causes your printer to become a paper shredder.
|
|
|
|
JIMMY HOFFA VIRUS: Your programs can never be found again.
|
|
|
|
CONGRESSIONAL VIRUS #2: Runs every program on the hard drive
|
|
simultaneously, but doesnt allow the user to accomplish
|
|
anything.
|
|
|
|
KEVORKIAN VIRUS: Helps your computer shut down as an act of mercy.
|
|
|
|
STAR TREK VIRUS: Invades your system in places where no virus has
|
|
gone before.
|
|
HEALTH CARE VIRUS: Tests your system for a day, finds nothing wrong,
|
|
and sends you a bill for $4,500.
|
|
|
|
GEORGE BUSH VIRUS: It starts by boldly stating, "Read my docs....No
|
|
new files!" on the screen. It proceeds to fill up all the free
|
|
space on your hard drive with new files, then blames it on the
|
|
Congressional Virus.
|
|
ORAL ROBERTS VIRUS - Claims that if you don't send it a million
|
|
dollars, it's programmer will take it back.
|
|
Last but not least:
|
|
LORINA BOBBIT VIRUS: It turns your hard drive into a 3 & 1/2" floppy!
|
|
|
|
Til then,, Terry g
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92055 14-MAR 00:05 General Information
|
|
Looking for IMS info.
|
|
From: KNOT1 To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Howdy! I'm wondering if anyone here might have some current
|
|
information on IMS, such as if they are still around and if/how
|
|
they can be contacted. If so, would certainly appreciate e-mailing
|
|
that to me either here (KNOT1) or to wilmoth@msen.com.
|
|
For those wanting to know, I was one of the early people to order
|
|
an MM/1, and ordered a pretty much full system. I recieved a
|
|
partial system at which time I payed the balance for the entire
|
|
system. Yes, I have pretty much written it off as a loss, but every
|
|
so often I get to feeling guilty about not having gotten it and try
|
|
once again to contact them, so far with no luck. Figured I would
|
|
give it one more good try. Even if I had to pay for the stuff again
|
|
it'd be nice to get the machine working fully, as my CoCo3 is starting
|
|
to act a little fritzy.
|
|
Well, thanks for your patient ear and any help provided. :-)
|
|
(Please remember to use e-mail, as I don't get to read the forum
|
|
regularly. Thanks!)
|
|
|
|
-- Jamie Wilmoth (KNOT1) --
|
|
|
|
P.S., while writing here, anyone ever think of fixing that welcome
|
|
screen CoCoFest pointer from 90960 to 90690 where the message
|
|
for it really is? :-)
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92062 14-MAR 23:36 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92055)
|
|
From: CHYDE To: KNOT1
|
|
|
|
Try sending mail to NIMITZ here. He's taken over the MM/1 line.
|
|
|
|
Chris
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92063 15-MAR 06:32 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92055)
|
|
From: SCWEGERT To: KNOT1
|
|
|
|
David Graham is who you'd contact. I believe he's still around these
|
|
parts as NIMITZ. He bought the rights to the MM/1 from Paul Ward.
|
|
|
|
Out of curiosity, what did you order ... and what did you receive?
|
|
|
|
*- Steve -*
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92064 15-MAR 21:16 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92063)
|
|
From: KNOT1 To: SCWEGERT
|
|
|
|
First, thanks to those that have pointed me to David Graham. I have
|
|
mailed him and recieved an initial contact.
|
|
Now, as to what I ordered and what I recieved: What I had ordered was
|
|
pretty much a full system of your basic items: MM/1 CPU board, 3 megs
|
|
RAM, two high density floppies, I/O board, case, fan, 110 meg Quantum
|
|
hard drive, and Magnavox 1CM135 monitor. What I had recieved (after
|
|
about a year-and-a-half waiting) was what people called the "Personal"
|
|
system: CPU, case, fan, 1 meg shared CPU/video RAM, my two floppies
|
|
(though one was broken), and the monitor. I never got the other 2 megs
|
|
RAM, I/O board, or hard drive. So with just one floppy I've gotten it
|
|
running but can't do much as far as writting code for it, which is what
|
|
I had planned on.
|
|
So it sits on the floor in my room unused while my CoCo3 fights on. :-)
|
|
|
|
- Jamie (KNOT1) -
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92069 16-MAR 19:48 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92064)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: KNOT1
|
|
|
|
> First, thanks to those that have pointed me to David Graham. I have
|
|
> mailed him and recieved an initial contact.
|
|
|
|
Very good, now maybe you can make some progress..
|
|
|
|
> Now, as to what I ordered and what I recieved:
|
|
|
|
> . I never got the other 2 megs
|
|
> RAM, I/O board, or hard drive. So with just one floppy I've gotten it
|
|
> running but can't do much as far as writting code for it, which is what
|
|
> I had planned on.
|
|
|
|
At least you have a good start, although it was very unfortunate that you
|
|
did not get the rest of the stuff. One suggestion, I would try to go for
|
|
a little larger HD, if you have to purchase new.. The prices have really
|
|
come down and you could get probably a 500 meg for what the 110 would have
|
|
cost when you first ordered.
|
|
|
|
I think you'll really be thrilled when you get the MM/1 up to full force. I
|
|
got into OSK about a year ago, and OSK, while almost identical in operation
|
|
in most respects, is a lot more comfortable to use. (Guys, don't hit me..
|
|
it's true...). The commands have a lot of additional options that can really
|
|
make life easier.
|
|
|
|
My system has G-Windows. It looks worlds different from the coco system. It
|
|
took me nearly six months, I guess to finally get to where I even liked the
|
|
differences between it and the CoCo windows, but now, I'm totally hooked.
|
|
|
|
Good luck on your upgrade, I'm sure you will really be tickled with it.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92070 16-MAR 21:07 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92069)
|
|
From: KNOT1 To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Re: the larger hard drive. Yes, that's a very good idea. In fact I
|
|
had thought of it back not all too long after I had recieved my partial
|
|
system, seeing the falling prices. I'd strongly suspect that should be
|
|
much more so now. And yes, does look like I may be having to repurchase
|
|
the items. But at least that should be cheaper than starting a new
|
|
system from scratch.
|
|
|
|
-- Jamie (KNOT1) --
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92079 17-MAR 21:49 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92064)
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: KNOT1 (NR)
|
|
|
|
I hope you can put your MM1 together. For a while I was like you just
|
|
using the 1 meg, no HD system. I finally bought an I/O board and HD
|
|
used from a guy who was selling his system. Have loved the machine
|
|
ever since.
|
|
|
|
Bests
|
|
---TedJaeger
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92084 18-MAR 00:43 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92070)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: KNOT1 (NR)
|
|
|
|
> Re: the larger hard drive. Yes, that's a very good idea. In fact I
|
|
> had thought of it
|
|
|
|
I think you can get a 500 meg for maybe $300 or so now (SCSI might be a
|
|
little higher, but not much). I have a 210 meg and have about 68% free,
|
|
but haven't really done any serious scavenging yet.
|
|
|
|
> And yes, does look like I may be having to repurchase
|
|
> the items. But at least that should be cheaper than starting a new
|
|
> system from scratch.
|
|
|
|
I can't speak for Dave Graham, but he isn't affiliated with IMS, and I
|
|
would think it would be impossible for him to fulfill all their outstanding
|
|
obligations. I would think that he will do all that is within his ability
|
|
to help you, though. I really hate to hear of anyone who loses like you
|
|
did, but at least you still have a connection by which you can receive
|
|
support.
|
|
|
|
Have you been online all the time? If not, you may be surprised at what's
|
|
available for OSK. It's really neat.. Oh, had you been using your MM/1
|
|
much or was it too inconvenient w/o a HD?
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92143 21-MAR 20:16 General Information
|
|
RE: Looking for IMS info. (Re: Msg 92084)
|
|
From: JEJONES To: DBREEDING (NR)
|
|
|
|
> I think you can get a 500 meg for maybe $300 or so now (SCSI might be a
|
|
> little higher, but not much).
|
|
|
|
It's not. These days you can get a Quantum LP540 SCSI hard drive for
|
|
something like $260.
|
|
|
|
Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.
|
|
|
|
Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92056 14-MAR 00:14 General Information
|
|
RE: Space Shuttle (Re: Msg 92031)
|
|
From: VILLARREAL To: GREGL
|
|
|
|
Yes, I've got a scanner and I've entered those frequencies, although I
|
|
haven't heard anything when I've listened to it.
|
|
|
|
I remember hearing a voice transmission from the space shuttle quite by
|
|
accident a while back, a year or so ago. I had left my scanner on during
|
|
the night, woke up and heard the astronauts talking. For a while I thought
|
|
I was dreaming <G>.
|
|
|
|
Joe M. Villarreal
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92059 14-MAR 22:43 General Information
|
|
RE: Printer Driver (Re: Msg 91874)
|
|
From: CHYDE To: TZT
|
|
|
|
Sorry to take so long getting back to you, but I got busy and haven't been
|
|
online for a while. Did you try looking in the Tandy database? They may
|
|
have a driver there.
|
|
|
|
Chris
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92083 17-MAR 22:07 General Information
|
|
RE: Printer Driver (Re: Msg 92059)
|
|
From: TZT To: CHYDE (NR)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Yes I have. I've tried Tandy, PC Sig, CoCo, and of course OS9. Also left
|
|
messages on Echo Mail areas. A lot of try Epson drivers some call Radio
|
|
Shack in Texas others said Write one and the rest say good luck. No help
|
|
and none of that worked. There might be something wrong with the printer
|
|
but it does text ok. I'm going to try to get a DOS program instead of Windows.
|
|
If that is a no go I'll just have to save or wait to get a new one. My cash
|
|
flow is uncertain right now (might be in a job change or loss) :( .
|
|
|
|
ateful for all the help I have gotten.
|
|
At least we tried.
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92060 14-MAR 23:00 System Modules (6809)
|
|
RE: File Managers (Re: Msg 91920)
|
|
From: CHYDE To: JRB
|
|
|
|
Do you have the level 1 manuals? he info you want should be in the blue
|
|
manual titled _OS-9 Technical Information_.
|
|
|
|
Chris
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92093 18-MAR 15:23 System Modules (6809)
|
|
RE: File Managers (Re: Msg 92060)
|
|
From: JRB To: CHYDE (NR)
|
|
|
|
I have a variety of OS9 manauls - User Guide, System Programmer's manual
|
|
but not a Technical Information manual. It's quite possible that the Dragon
|
|
releases of OS9 were not shipped with this manual. If you could provide the
|
|
relevent details or point me in the direction where I can find a copy of
|
|
this manual it'd be much appreciated.
|
|
|
|
Jon.
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92099 18-MAR 17:12 System Modules (6809)
|
|
RE: File Managers (Re: Msg 92093)
|
|
From: RANDYKWILSON To: JRB
|
|
|
|
I'm showing Y pointing to the path descriptor and U to the caller's stack.
|
|
|
|
Randy
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92061 14-MAR 23:18 General Information
|
|
RE: Tymenet/Sprintnet (Re: Msg 91999)
|
|
From: CHYDE To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
You should be able to call either (at the same number I think) and ask them
|
|
about it. If I remember right they'll send you a petion form and you'll need
|
|
to get so many signatures before they'll put in a node.
|
|
|
|
Chris
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92066 15-MAR 23:23 General Information
|
|
RE: Tymenet/Sprintnet (Re: Msg 92061)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: CHYDE
|
|
|
|
> You should be able to call either (at the same number I think) and ask
|
|
> them about it. If I remember right they'll send you a petion form and
|
|
> you'll need to get so many signatures before they'll put in a node.
|
|
|
|
Wonder what it takes to get a node put in? I live in a very small community,
|
|
but there are several people who have modems. I doubt we would have enough,
|
|
but it wouldn't hurt to try, I guess.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92078 17-MAR 21:49 General Information
|
|
RE: Tymenet/Sprintnet (Re: Msg 92061)
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: CHYDE (NR)
|
|
|
|
> You should be able to call either (at the same number I think) and ask
|
|
> them about it. If I remember right they'll send you a petion form and
|
|
> you'll need to get so many signatures before they'll put in a node.
|
|
>
|
|
> Chris
|
|
|
|
Thanks Chris. I now hear we have an internet provider interested in
|
|
coming to Fulton but I'll pursue the idea of a Sprintnet node still
|
|
|
|
Bests
|
|
---TedJaeger
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92067 15-MAR 23:58 General Information
|
|
Communications Decency Act.
|
|
From: CHYDE To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I don't remember seeing anything about this Senate Bill posted here, so I'll
|
|
mention it.
|
|
|
|
The Communications Decency Act (S314) is a bill that will try to censor
|
|
telecomunication carriers - telephone companies, on-line services, BBSes,
|
|
and such. It's aim is to make these service providers liable for indecent
|
|
messages that they have (this includes private e-mail as I understand it).
|
|
While it was inspired because of the alt.sex newsgroups and the availability
|
|
of erotica over the net. From the information I have the bill reads something
|
|
like this:
|
|
|
|
The penalty for any carrier that "makes, transmits or otherwise makes
|
|
available any comment, request, suggestion, proposal, image or other
|
|
communication" which is found to be indecent or harassing would be a fine
|
|
of $100,000 or two years in prision.
|
|
|
|
Who is to decide what is indecent or harrassing is not spelled out, though
|
|
I would suspect it would be something similar to current anti-porn laws
|
|
(very tough to enforce). I also suspect that many carriers may start to
|
|
monitor messages (at least try) to help avoid prosecutions. The cost to
|
|
implement the bill would be rather large I suspect (I wonder if this would
|
|
pass the Republican cost/benifit analysis <g>). While the ACLU, various
|
|
carriers and individuals are fighting the legistlation you may want to
|
|
chat with your Senator about it.
|
|
|
|
Chris
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92073 16-MAR 22:43 General Information
|
|
RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92067)
|
|
From: GREGL To: CHYDE (NR)
|
|
|
|
For what it's worth, such a bill would cost a lot of companies a hefty sum
|
|
of money to follow. Can you imagine what it would cost to hire people to
|
|
monitor every news group for "indecent" or "harassing" content? The point
|
|
you mentioned is valid is well. What exactly is indecent or harassing?
|
|
|
|
-- Greg
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92086 18-MAR 00:44 General Information
|
|
RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92073)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: GREGL
|
|
|
|
> Can you imagine what it would cost to hire people
|
|
> to monitor every news group for "indecent" or "harassing" content? The
|
|
> point you mentioned is valid is well. What exactly is indecent or
|
|
> harassing?
|
|
|
|
Please refer to message 92074 for an example of "indecent" language ;-)
|
|
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92092 18-MAR 12:31 General Information
|
|
RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92086)
|
|
From: GREGL To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
Exactly my point. What's indecent to me may be kosher for you. Indeed, what's
|
|
indecent in Tennessee is likely not in California. Nude beaches are somewhat
|
|
common in California. Yet showing excess cleavage in Tennessee will get you
|
|
90 days in the slammer. :-)
|
|
|
|
-- Greg
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92098 18-MAR 16:54 General Information
|
|
RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92092)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: GREGL
|
|
|
|
> Exactly my point. What's indecent to me may be kosher for you. Indeed,
|
|
> what's indecent in Tennessee is likely not in California. Nude beaches are
|
|
> somewhat common in California. Yet showing excess cleavage in Tennessee
|
|
> will get you 90 days in the slammer. :-)
|
|
|
|
Of course I was only joking in my post, but you are very correct, and it
|
|
is a very delicate question.
|
|
|
|
As for making sysops responsible for the content of the system, I don't
|
|
think it is best. There should be an attempt to make sure material does
|
|
not come through that would not be appropriate for a particular audience,
|
|
I think it is unreasonable to make it mandatory for a sysop or sysadmin
|
|
screen each and every bit of material that comes through, and slip-ups
|
|
should be allowed for.
|
|
|
|
IMO, if you want to run an adult BBS, well and good, and people have the
|
|
right to use it or not. If you're in it to make a profit, I'm sure
|
|
your audience will determine what they want to see.
|
|
|
|
I do think that certain media should be screened. For instance, while going
|
|
off on a tangent a little, I don't like to be sitting with my family or
|
|
friends watching one of the major networks, expecting to be watching a
|
|
"clean" show and suddenly be confronted by very explicit scenes depicting
|
|
sexual activity. It can become a little embarassing at times. However,
|
|
if you or a group want to watch a XXX show, I see no problem with being
|
|
able to flip over and watch one.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92131 20-MAR 20:31 General Information
|
|
RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92098)
|
|
From: JOHNREED To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
The idea of making sysops responsible for the content of posts
|
|
seems a little like making the phone company responsible for
|
|
obscene phone calls, or the post office responsible for objectionable
|
|
mail.
|
|
|
|
Requiring them to `make a reasonable effort' (I know, define
|
|
reasonable) seems logical.
|
|
|
|
Don't blame the lawmakers, they are just reacting to the acts
|
|
of a few idiots, like the student at one of my state's universities
|
|
who posted a `work of fiction' (kind of a gory one I hear) with
|
|
a fellow student's real name in it.
|
|
|
|
Mr. & Mrs Middle America just bought junior a new computer and
|
|
are a little worried about what he will be getting into on the
|
|
`information superhighway', so they call their congressman and
|
|
tell him to `do something'.
|
|
|
|
We have a lot of freedom on the various computer communication systems
|
|
available, but if enough people abuse it, we WILL lose it.
|
|
|
|
********************************
|
|
John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92136 20-MAR 22:11 General Information
|
|
RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92131)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: JOHNREED
|
|
|
|
> The idea of making sysops responsible for the content of posts
|
|
> seems a little like making the phone company responsible for
|
|
> obscene phone calls, or the post office responsible for objectionable
|
|
> mail.
|
|
>
|
|
> Requiring them to `make a reasonable effort' (I know, define
|
|
> reasonable) seems logical.
|
|
|
|
To me, resonable effort would be simply seeing to it that extremely -what
|
|
shall I say - "off-color"(?) stuff does not pop up unexpectedly in places
|
|
where it is not anticipated. And I know that once in a while,
|
|
something _will_ pass through, but it is usually easy to tell if it is
|
|
an accident.
|
|
|
|
As for my opinion, I have no objection to having anything you want on a
|
|
service, as long as it it going to people who want it. If there is a
|
|
group of people wanting XXX graphics etc, so be it.. They should have
|
|
access, but I do think a BBS that claims to be a "family" BBS should try
|
|
to keep it clean. But, I think that if a sysop begins placing a lot of
|
|
stuff on the BBS that the majority does not want, he'll find his user
|
|
base dwindling.. Of course, if the users had paid for a particular type
|
|
service, and were not getting it, then it might be another question.
|
|
|
|
But as far as the government monitoring the content of a service, no way!
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92139 20-MAR 23:13 General Information
|
|
RE: Communications Decency Act. (Re: Msg 92131)
|
|
From: WA2EGP To: JOHNREED
|
|
|
|
This is all very familiar to me. A while back, on amateur radio, packet to be
|
|
exact, someone posted a 900 for individuals to call if they were against
|
|
Desert Storm. (Should be 900 number) Well, someone bitched to the FCC and
|
|
all the sysops of the packet stations who handled the message (automatically)
|
|
got nice little letters asking for explanation and included threats of loss of
|
|
license. (Amateur Radio operators and stations are NOT allowed to do anything
|
|
for profit, the 900 number was making a "profit" from the exposure, so
|
|
therefore the stations and their operators were violating the FCC rules.)
|
|
Got the same results.....a fear of restriction in communication because every
|
|
sysop would have to sift through the messages and kill anything that might
|
|
possibly be in the "profit" catagory. Needless to say, that would certainly
|
|
slow down the system. Somehow, packet radio networks survived and the FCC has
|
|
lightened up on what is permissible. For the most part, the amateurs did
|
|
restrict they types of messages they send (no profanity, stay away from
|
|
"discussions" of religion, sex, politics) and I guess that calmed the powers
|
|
that be. The network is basically back to normal. Might be some interesting
|
|
parallels worth reading up on.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92068 16-MAR 04:26 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: Get/Put (Re: Msg 92032)
|
|
From: JOELHEGBERG To: LARRYOLSON
|
|
|
|
Larry,
|
|
|
|
> > I'm sort of working on a game right now (not Pacman <grin>)
|
|
> > and I've been using my Mac to make/edit sound effects.
|
|
>
|
|
> Great, I can't wait to see what your working on. I also hate to say it
|
|
> but I will probably be going over to use my brother's ms-dos machine to
|
|
> come up with the sounds.
|
|
|
|
Hopefully, I'll have it done for the fest. Otherwise, I'm worried it
|
|
may not get done since I start work at Microware in June... I don't know
|
|
how much time I'll have after that happens! As for the sounds, that's
|
|
what those other machines are good for... to help in the development of
|
|
software for REAL machines. <g>
|
|
|
|
> Ok, I'll plan on the keyboard being an option, now I need some
|
|
> pointers on how to do it. When any key is pressed on the keyboard, is an
|
|
> event generated ? Would I use _ev_signal(), or just check _gs_rdy(), or
|
|
> set up an intercept() ? The new _gs_keysns(), does it support all the
|
|
> keys or just the number pad keys ?
|
|
|
|
I'll have to check up on what keys are supported in the new _gs_keysns.
|
|
(I have to use it in my game program as well... there was an early
|
|
standard that I implemented right away and then the specs changed so I
|
|
have to find out what the new way officially is!) In my program, I just
|
|
check the _gs_keysns() every so often to determine if a key is pressed.
|
|
Of course, the _gs_keysns call just tells you what keys are pressed
|
|
down... it doesn't empty the keys from the keyboard buffer. So both of
|
|
us will probably have to put a few dummy reads in our program to empty
|
|
out all those characters from the keyboard buffer.
|
|
|
|
-- Joel.
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92071 16-MAR 22:11 General Information
|
|
Audio CD a last
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Hi All,
|
|
Sharing a little adventure. Must have been a year ago I bought
|
|
HAWKsoft's virtual CD player only to find that the software required
|
|
that the user have a revision A WD33c93 SCSI chip on their MM1 I/O
|
|
board. I didn't. About a month ago I sent out a call on the Amiga
|
|
hangouts on the USENET and several (about 5) people responded willing to
|
|
sell me the needed SCSI chip. (They had upgraded). Bought one and went down
|
|
to the local RCA place with it. I found a knowledgeable tech who pulled my
|
|
non-revision A SCSI chip from my I/O board and put in a socket. Got the
|
|
original chip out with no damage but the good news is the replacement
|
|
chip works too and now I can use Chris's VCDP software!
|
|
Hey, can anyone tell me if, on a CDI disc, there are sound files
|
|
and images that can be played/displayed on the MM1? Something analogous
|
|
to WAV and GIF files.
|
|
|
|
Bests
|
|
---TedJaeger
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92094 18-MAR 15:24 General Information
|
|
RE: Audio CD a last (Re: Msg 92071)
|
|
From: BRUCEGERST To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
I would LOVE to get a Rev A SCSI chip, can you get one for me?
|
|
Any help, or direction would be appreciated!
|
|
-Bruce
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92118 19-MAR 16:04 General Information
|
|
RE: Audio CD a last (Re: Msg 92071)
|
|
From: HAWKSOFT To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
> Hi All,
|
|
> Sharing a little adventure. Must have been a year ago I bought
|
|
> HAWKsoft's virtual CD player only to find that the software required
|
|
> that the user have a revision A WD33c93 SCSI chip on their MM1 I/O
|
|
> board. I didn't. About a month ago I sent out a call on the Amiga
|
|
> hangouts on the USENET and several (about 5) people responded willing to
|
|
> sell me the needed SCSI chip. (They had upgraded). Bought one and went
|
|
> down to the local RCA place with it. I found a knowledgeable tech who
|
|
> pulled my non-revision A SCSI chip from my I/O board and put in a socket.
|
|
> Got the original chip out with no damage but the good news is the
|
|
> replacement chip works too and now I can use Chris's VCDP software!
|
|
> Hey, can anyone tell me if, on a CDI disc, there are sound files
|
|
> and images that can be played/displayed on the MM1? Something analogous
|
|
> to WAV and GIF files.
|
|
|
|
|
|
YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!!
|
|
|
|
Glad to hear that you were able to find one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
A copy of the newest version of VCDP is on it's way!!!!
|
|
|
|
Chris
|
|
|
|
|
|
:-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-:
|
|
|
|
Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM
|
|
|
|
******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >******************
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92132 20-MAR 21:10 General Information
|
|
RE: Audio CD a last (Re: Msg 92094)
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: BRUCEGERST (NR)
|
|
|
|
> I would LOVE to get a Rev A SCSI chip, can you get one for me?
|
|
> Any help, or direction would be appreciated!
|
|
> -Bruce
|
|
|
|
I have the responses from several people who offered to sell me their
|
|
chip but those addresses are at my office. I'll try to remember to email
|
|
them to you but if I forget nudge me! BTW, what SCSI chip is in your
|
|
MM1?
|
|
|
|
Bests
|
|
---TedJaeger
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92074 17-MAR 01:30 General Information
|
|
CDI
|
|
From: COCOKIWI To: ALL
|
|
|
|
WOW! I just put into<Duck> my <IBM> a NEW Video Card<Jakarta>...IT WILL
|
|
PLAY CDI MOVIES .......on my PC........
|
|
Dennis
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92088 18-MAR 01:48 General Information
|
|
RE: CDI (Re: Msg 92074)
|
|
From: ISC To: COCOKIWI
|
|
|
|
> WOW! I just put into<Duck> my <IBM> a NEW Video Card<Jakarta>...IT WILL
|
|
> PLAY CDI MOVIES .......on my PC........
|
|
> Dennis
|
|
>
|
|
Dennis,
|
|
|
|
Don't try to do anything else while the movies are playing!!! <ducking> That
|
|
thing will choke bigtime!!! <grin>
|
|
|
|
Bill
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92109 19-MAR 03:16 General Information
|
|
RE: CDI (Re: Msg 92088)
|
|
From: COCOKIWI To: ISC
|
|
|
|
NOW! Why would I want to do that???<grin> be nice though! like when you get
|
|
bored!
|
|
Dennis.....
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92076 17-MAR 19:22 General Information
|
|
Editor
|
|
From: CLTUCKER To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Can someone tell me a text editor to replace the original editor on the
|
|
OS9 disk? It is very slow and combersome to use.(g)
|
|
cl
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92081 17-MAR 22:01 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92076)
|
|
From: JRUPPEL To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
Try the Applications database here. I myself use EMACS. Many features and very
|
|
useful. Also, Sled is very nice...the scale at the top makes WYSIWIG text
|
|
editting easy. There are many more here, and many that are available from our
|
|
dedicated Coco Vendors! Good Luck!
|
|
John Ruppel
|
|
CocoNuts in Lansing
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92082 17-MAR 22:01 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92076)
|
|
From: REVKAK To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
The two text editors that I would recommend are: VED by Bob van der Poel
|
|
and Dynastar from Frank Hogg. VED is currently available; Dynastar is
|
|
not. Of course there is TSEDIT from Radio Shack. There are several
|
|
patches here on Delphi for TSEDIT. There are several freeware/shareware
|
|
editors in the databases. I cannot speak for or against them as I have
|
|
\
|
|
not used them. If you do a lot of text work, I would recommend getting
|
|
Zack Sessions WPShel along with TSSpell (spell checker) from Radio Shack.
|
|
|
|
As you can see there are many ways to go in this area. Hope this helps.
|
|
Best wishes, Keith
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92087 18-MAR 00:44 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92076)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
> Can someone tell me a text editor to replace the original editor on the
|
|
> OS9 disk? It is very slow and combersome to use.(g)
|
|
|
|
You have a couple replies already. One suggestion they made is to get some
|
|
of the editors from the database here.. I never got started using them,
|
|
have them but never started with them..
|
|
|
|
I used Ved on the coco. It is rather easy to use, and in conjunction with
|
|
its companion text formatter vprint and a good printer, you can output
|
|
some really professional-looking text.
|
|
|
|
I've used scred that comes with the Development Pak. It has some pretty
|
|
good features, but it has one bug that will crash if you hit an alt-key
|
|
comination.. If you use it, I have a patch for it.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92089 18-MAR 01:48 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92076)
|
|
From: ISC To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
> Can someone tell me a text editor to replace the original editor on the
|
|
> OS9 disk? It is very slow and combersome to use.(g)
|
|
> cl
|
|
>
|
|
CL,
|
|
|
|
Try a few of the editors here in the Database. They all have feechers and
|
|
faults, but there are some useful ones. Another suggestion is VED from Bob
|
|
van der Poel. I don't have his address in front of me now, but I will get it
|
|
for you or someone here will supply it before I do. Email me if you need it.
|
|
Bob also wrote and sells VPrint which is a powerful text formatter. The two
|
|
are a good word processing combo for the CoCo and OS9.
|
|
|
|
Bill
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92103 18-MAR 22:30 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92087)
|
|
From: CLTUCKER To: DBREEDING
|
|
|
|
I just got VED in the mail today. Looks like a good pgm. A lot like
|
|
Simply Better. Having ome pblm though. Like when you kill a line Alt-K
|
|
in the middle of a paragraph, how do you fill in the blank space
|
|
with the following text? (g)
|
|
cl
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92104 18-MAR 22:33 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92089)
|
|
From: CLTUCKER To: ISC
|
|
|
|
I just found VPrint in todays mail. Got to get er up & runnin. If Ved &
|
|
VPrint do the job looks like there's no reason for hanging out
|
|
with DECB anymore.(g)
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92122 19-MAR 20:14 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92103)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
> I just got VED in the mail today. Looks like a good pgm. A lot like
|
|
> Simply Better. Having ome pblm though. Like when you kill a line Alt-K
|
|
> in the middle of a paragraph, how do you fill in the blank space
|
|
> with the following text? (g)
|
|
|
|
Which VED are you running, CoCo or OSK?
|
|
|
|
What Alt-K does is kill off everything from the cursor position to, but not
|
|
including, the next Carriage Return. At least in the CoCo version. I think
|
|
it asks you if you're sure if the line wraps to the next line.
|
|
|
|
All you need to do is start typing, if in Insert mode to add more text. If
|
|
you want to close up the line, just hit the delete-character key (Break on
|
|
the CoCo) to delete the CR.
|
|
|
|
By George, I'm going to send in my order for Ved today, darn it!
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92123 19-MAR 20:14 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92104)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
> I just found VPrint in todays mail. Got to get er up & runnin. If Ved &
|
|
> VPrint do the job looks like there's no reason for hanging out
|
|
> with DECB anymore.(g)
|
|
|
|
I agree. While it might take a little more effort to get the final product
|
|
than with some more integrated software, I feel that your capability with
|
|
it is almost unlimited - well, limited probably more by your printer than
|
|
anything else. I think they have even got a few config files out that
|
|
support lazer printers. I've not tried to do much fancy printing, but
|
|
on one occasion I did a little project and was really impressed by the
|
|
way it turned out.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92126 19-MAR 23:57 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92104)
|
|
From: ISC To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
> I just found VPrint in todays mail. Got to get er up & runnin. If Ved &
|
|
> VPrint do the job looks like there's no reason for hanging out
|
|
> with DECB anymore.(g)
|
|
>
|
|
CL,
|
|
|
|
Your next move would be to get WPShel from COLORSYSTEMS here and then TSSpell
|
|
from Tandy. Add Vu from the database here and you would have a full-blown
|
|
powerful word processing package. <grin>
|
|
|
|
Good Luck.
|
|
|
|
Bill
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92130 20-MAR 19:56 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92126)
|
|
From: CLTUCKER To: ISC
|
|
|
|
Ok Bill. I really like this VED. Sooo easy and fast to use.(g)
|
|
cl
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92145 22-MAR 02:50 General Information
|
|
RE: Editor (Re: Msg 92130)
|
|
From: ISC To: CLTUCKER (NR)
|
|
|
|
> Ok Bill. I really like this VED. Sooo easy and fast to use.(g)
|
|
> cl
|
|
>
|
|
CL,
|
|
|
|
Yup. Now when you get VPrint configured to format your text to your printer,
|
|
you're in business.
|
|
|
|
Bill
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92077 17-MAR 21:19 General Information
|
|
general
|
|
From: CFDMRICK To: ALL
|
|
|
|
The "final" issue of the CoCo Registry has been mailed. This "final" issue
|
|
has 422 records of active CoCoists plus over 20 ads from CoCo companies. Sort
|
|
of like continuing series of "last CoCo fests", there may be another "final"
|
|
issue of the Registry as soon as we hit 500 records. The price will be $7.
|
|
|
|
If you are not in the Registry and would like to be, put your name and address
|
|
in my mailbox and I'll get you a Registry Data Form in the mail.
|
|
|
|
CFDMRICK
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92095 18-MAR 15:56 General Information
|
|
UPGRADE MAgazine
|
|
From: MRUPGRADE To: THETAURUS
|
|
|
|
Well, Chris you shouldda' got our last issue by now. And remmeber one
|
|
can (grin) close their eyes and type <g> DOS,, and pretend it's all OS-9.
|
|
Cept you don't get the drive noise.
|
|
So,,, whatta ya think??
|
|
Terry Simons UPGRADE Editor
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92100 18-MAR 21:49 General Information
|
|
StG BBS... trying to get to work
|
|
From: RICKADAMS To: JEVESTAL
|
|
|
|
I've got the BBS almost up and running. You can connect, go through a
|
|
new user validation, etc, no problem. But any attempt to actually
|
|
log on causes the Coco to crash. Popping up a login from the BBS
|
|
crashes. Logging in over the modem crashes. It echos the password
|
|
as stars, no problem... you hit RETURN at the end of the password...
|
|
and it goes kablooie.
|
|
|
|
Whaddyathink?
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92115 19-MAR 14:09 General Information
|
|
RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92100)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: RICKADAMS
|
|
|
|
Rick, are you running the "demo" version, or do you have a Registered
|
|
system name, and net password? If you tried changeing the system name,
|
|
and did not enter the proper net password.. it WILL cause a crash. It is
|
|
also possible that perhaps you got the wrong net password for you system
|
|
name if you are a registered user... Note that you System name MUST be
|
|
tryped exactly as it was when you applied for you net password (ie, case
|
|
sensative) If you are just running as a unregistered system, it could
|
|
be that you got a bad copy of the CIA module... I might have a good
|
|
copy of the generic CIA module around here if you need a replacement.
|
|
--
|
|
Paul
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92117 19-MAR 14:59 General Information
|
|
RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92115)
|
|
From: RICKADAMS To: MITHELEN
|
|
|
|
I'm running the version that's here in the group STG NETWORK BBS V3.0.
|
|
The description of that version says that registration is necessary
|
|
for network connectivity. But that version also won't let you run the
|
|
BBS unless you enter a system name. I entered a system name but hit
|
|
RETURN for the net password... is that a problem? If so, perhaps the
|
|
unregistered use of that version is more "crippled" than I realized...
|
|
you can't run it unregistered at all? Or am I off here? I don't mind
|
|
registering it, but it'd be nice to get it to run first. Do I need
|
|
to switch to the "demo" version? Obviously, I'm a little confused.
|
|
Perhaps greatly confused. :)
|
|
|
|
I'll give the docs another run-through. Thanks for your help.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92119 19-MAR 17:06 General Information
|
|
RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92117)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: RICKADAMS
|
|
|
|
You cannot change/set the system name without having a net password...
|
|
It SHOULD run fine withough haveing the system name set from the
|
|
"logins" program, just no network capability. Try extracting
|
|
the CIA data module from the archive, and replaceing the modified
|
|
copy with the fresh one from the archive...
|
|
--
|
|
Paul
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92120 19-MAR 19:56 General Information
|
|
RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92119)
|
|
From: RICKADAMS To: MITHELEN
|
|
|
|
I tried a fresh CIA module, and when I use bbsboot to boot up the BBS,
|
|
it immediately fires up logins, cause it thinks the BBS is not set up,
|
|
cause there's no system name. If you quit out of logins at that point,
|
|
it goes right back to logins for the same reason. Hmmm.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92125 19-MAR 20:29 General Information
|
|
RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92120)
|
|
From: RICKADAMS To: MITHELEN
|
|
|
|
I tried a second time with a fresh CIA. No go. Within that CIA, the
|
|
system name is _UNKNOWN and the serial number 0842108421. Is there a
|
|
different CIA that should be used?
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92128 20-MAR 01:14 General Information
|
|
RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92125)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: RICKADAMS
|
|
|
|
Hmm... It has been a LONG time since I ran StG on a CoCo... And I
|
|
don't have a functional CoCo here right now to do experimenting on...
|
|
The system name in CIS should be _UNKNOWN for a non registered
|
|
sytem... and more then likely the serial number is correct that you listed.
|
|
(Still haven't dug up my old CoCo StG archives) I'm thinking maybe something
|
|
else hasn't been done that is necessary... Have you run through the rest
|
|
of the logins options... especially the port and dir setup options...
|
|
I'll try logging into Carl's CoCo tonight, and see if I can figure anything
|
|
out (assumeing his system is running) and report back if I find
|
|
something ASAP...
|
|
--
|
|
Paul
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92129 20-MAR 09:14 General Information
|
|
RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92128)
|
|
From: RICKADAMS To: MITHELEN
|
|
|
|
Yep, ran through the port and dir setup options in logins. For some
|
|
reason it won't boot the BBS cause it thinks that the system is not setup.
|
|
And if you enter the system name, it DOES think it's set up, but then it
|
|
crashes when you log a user into the BBS. If you enter an incorrect
|
|
password, it tells you so and gives you another login prompt. But once
|
|
a correct password is entered, kaboom. Pretty little sparklies and a
|
|
locked-up system.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92141 21-MAR 01:46 General Information
|
|
RE: StG BBS... trying to get to work (Re: Msg 92129)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: RICKADAMS
|
|
|
|
Hmm... I'm baffled... I wasn't able to get into Carls system last night,
|
|
and didn't get to talk to him today, so he would make sure the system was
|
|
running tonight (i'll try it again when I logg off here) I might actually have
|
|
a coco running at my house by thursday (fingers crossed).
|
|
--
|
|
Paul
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92105 19-MAR 00:42 OSK Applications
|
|
MM/1 joystick
|
|
From: LARRYOLSON To: ALL
|
|
|
|
|
|
Help....
|
|
A couple of month's ago Mike Haaland left a message about a problem
|
|
with the MM/1 joystick. I thought that I had saved the message, but I
|
|
can't find it anywhere. Is there anyone that might have a copy of that
|
|
message, that they could re-post.
|
|
|
|
Larry
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92111 19-MAR 10:50 OSK Applications
|
|
My_Mail
|
|
From: VAXELF To: MITHELEN
|
|
|
|
Can you take a look at my e-mail. It contains somekind of error and as
|
|
results, I can not read or send e-mail.
|
|
|
|
I am sending this to GREGL too, just in case.
|
|
|
|
John D.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92114 19-MAR 14:00 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: My_Mail (Re: Msg 92111)
|
|
From: MITHELEN To: VAXELF
|
|
|
|
There is no way for me (and I doubt the Greg can) to read/access another
|
|
users mail... Your best bet is to contact SERVICE if there is indeed
|
|
a problem... or, maybe if you post a capture buffer of the error message
|
|
you are getting we can figure it out... (Or email Greg and/or me a copy)
|
|
--
|
|
Paul
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92121 19-MAR 20:01 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: My_Mail (Re: Msg 92111)
|
|
From: JOHNBAER To: VAXELF
|
|
|
|
|
|
John,
|
|
|
|
> Can you take a look at my e-mail. It contains somekind of error and as
|
|
> results, I can not read or send e-mail.
|
|
|
|
Delphi has/had hardware problems today. Tell SERVICE about this.
|
|
If you really want to get at this mail.mai file, you could `copy'
|
|
it to `something.txt' and try to download that.
|
|
|
|
Don't touch that mail.mai file otherwise, cause SERVICE can fix it.
|
|
|
|
Later..
|
|
|
|
John Baer
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92134 20-MAR 21:21 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: My_Mail (Re: Msg 92121)
|
|
From: VAXELF To: JOHNBAER
|
|
|
|
John,
|
|
I got the message when I logon on today and also discovered that now
|
|
my mail is OK. The first time I loged on, I didn't get any message about
|
|
hardware problems, but the mail was unreadable and would error if I tried
|
|
to send mail. Now it is all OK, can read and send mail fine.
|
|
Thanks for the reply. I'll have to remember that next time something
|
|
werid like that happens again.
|
|
|
|
John D.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92140 21-MAR 00:00 OSK Applications
|
|
RE: My_Mail (Re: Msg 92134)
|
|
From: JOHNBAER To: VAXELF
|
|
|
|
|
|
John,
|
|
|
|
Glad everything is working for you now. I got that info from
|
|
the `service' Forum. IF you can copy the file, then you can download
|
|
the copy. I didn't know how important this file was that you wanted
|
|
to get at it, that's why the reply :).
|
|
|
|
John Baer -
|
|
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92112 19-MAR 10:52 OSK Applications
|
|
My_Mail
|
|
From: VAXELF To: GREGL
|
|
|
|
Greg,
|
|
Can you or Paul take a look at my e-mail. I can not read or send e-mail
|
|
or even delete the bad file.
|
|
Thank you in advance.
|
|
|
|
John D.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92133 20-MAR 21:12 General Information
|
|
CMDS
|
|
From: CLTUCKER To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Can someone tell me why:
|
|
When I copy a cmds pgm from one disk to cmds on another disk I have to
|
|
reboot from the new disk before the pgm will work? I have a ptr
|
|
routine that I made from Procedure then packed it. Works OK on the
|
|
original disk. When I copy it to the cmds dir of a new disk it
|
|
will not work. Any ideas?(g)
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92135 20-MAR 22:00 General Information
|
|
RE: CMDS (Re: Msg 92133)
|
|
From: REVKAK To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
Have you tried chx "new cmds directory" ? I used to do that a lot until
|
|
I finally remembered where everything is. Try pxd to see where your cmds
|
|
directory is. Keith
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92137 20-MAR 22:11 General Information
|
|
RE: CMDS (Re: Msg 92133)
|
|
From: DBREEDING To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
> Can someone tell me why:
|
|
> When I copy a cmds pgm from one disk to cmds on another disk I have to
|
|
> reboot from the new disk before the pgm will work? I have a ptr
|
|
> routine that I made from Procedure then packed it. Works OK on the
|
|
> original disk. When I copy it to the cmds dir of a new disk it
|
|
> will not work.
|
|
|
|
I assumme you're talking about a Basic program?
|
|
|
|
Did you chx to that disk or call it using a complete pathlist? There is
|
|
a bug in the shell, or something, which does not allow this, if memory
|
|
serves. If you have a packed program in, say /d1/cmds, you can't type
|
|
the command "/d1/cmds/program" and get it to run.. runb (or shell?) looks
|
|
for a module with the name of the full pathlist (or so I think), and it
|
|
just will not work. You can chx to that directory, or you could do
|
|
something like this:
|
|
|
|
(chx /d1/cmds;program)
|
|
|
|
Of course that will give you an extra shell in procs, but it will work,
|
|
and upon completion, you will be returned to the original commands directory.
|
|
|
|
Hope this helps.
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 ***
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92142 21-MAR 19:23 General Information
|
|
RE: CMDS (Re: Msg 92133)
|
|
From: JOHNREED To: CLTUCKER
|
|
|
|
Let me add one little point to the other replies -- because this
|
|
used to confuse me.
|
|
|
|
Lets say you have your commands dir set to `/d0/cmds' and everything
|
|
is working fine.
|
|
|
|
Now you put a different disk in `/d0'. This disk also has a directory
|
|
`/d0/cmds' BUT unless it is an exact copy of the original disk -- that
|
|
is one made with `backup' or something similar -- your commands dir
|
|
setting is no longer valid. You still have to `chx /d0/cmds' so your
|
|
system can find `/d0/cmds' on the new disk.
|
|
|
|
I cussed my poor old COCO several times before I caught on to that.
|
|
********************************
|
|
John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92146 22-MAR 03:29 General Information
|
|
RE: CMDS (Re: Msg 92142)
|
|
From: ISC To: JOHNREED (NR)
|
|
|
|
> Let me add one little point to the other replies -- because this
|
|
> used to confuse me.
|
|
>
|
|
> Lets say you have your commands dir set to `/d0/cmds' and everything
|
|
> is working fine.
|
|
>
|
|
> Now you put a different disk in `/d0'. This disk also has a directory
|
|
> `/d0/cmds' BUT unless it is an exact copy of the original disk -- that
|
|
> is one made with `backup' or something similar -- your commands dir
|
|
> setting is no longer valid. You still have to `chx /d0/cmds' so your
|
|
> system can find `/d0/cmds' on the new disk.
|
|
>
|
|
> I cussed my poor old COCO several times before I caught on to that.
|
|
> ********************************
|
|
> John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>
|
|
>
|
|
John,
|
|
|
|
It is important to remember that there is a sensor in the diskette drive which
|
|
tells the computer that the diskette has been removed.
|
|
|
|
Bill
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
92144 22-MAR 00:01 General Information
|
|
HD
|
|
From: CLTUCKER To: JEJONES (NR)
|
|
|
|
Can you tell me the source to purchase a /h1 for the 4IN1? Those sounded
|
|
like reasonable prices. Huh?(g). Also cables and necessary drivers.
|
|
:->
|
|
cl
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
|
|
FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> |