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#: 20979 S1/General Interest
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02-Jun-95 17:21:59
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Sb: #20972-X.25 & LAP-B
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Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526
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To: Paul S. Dayan 100040,400 (X)
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Hi Paul,
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I'm working for ELTEC. We have a 68302-based daughter board for our 68030/40/60
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CPU-boards and our VMEbus-carrier, which is connected to OS-9 via
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descriptor/driver.
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Interrested?
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Ciao Martin Raabe
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mraabe@eltec.de
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#: 20981 S1/General Interest
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06-Jun-95 14:13:39
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Sb: #Consulting in NYC Area
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Fm: Michael A. Cohen 73304,3026
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To: All,
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***URGENT/IMMEDIATE NEED***
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Spectrum Concepts Consulting Corp., an information technology consulting firm
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providing leading-edge consulting expertise to the NYC area since 1979, is
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looking for an OS-9 Specialist to work ON-SITE at one of our most prestigious
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clients in the NYC area. The contract is immediate and at least one year
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length.
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Skills Required:
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* OS-9 Expertise
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Skills Desired:
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* C Programming
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* CD-i
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* David
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* Interactive TV
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The project involves designing and developing the software component for an
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interactive TV hardware box based on OS-9.
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For More Details please contact:
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Michael Cohen, Technical Recruiter
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Spectrum Concepts Consulting Corp.
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150 Broadway, Suite 600, New York, NY 10038
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phone (212)791-4800 x248
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fax resumes to (212)791-6639
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***Referral Fees Paid . . . Refer your friends/associates!!!**
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20995 S1/General Interest
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14-Jun-95 11:35:29
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Sb: #20981-Consulting in NYC Area
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Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336
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To: Michael A. Cohen 73304,3026
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Michael,
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I am working in a new startup company, Interactive Engines, Inc. The company's
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goal is to provide a set-top box application development tool suite for
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interactive television applications (and eventually other types of
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applications).
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Our development team has considerable experience in providing set-top
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application authoring and delivery tools, and we were instrumental in
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developing the Stargazer application software for Bell Atlantic that is now
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deployed in Italy and in the U.S. Specifically, we have extensive experience
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in developing in C on the OS-9 DAVID and CD-I platforms.
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Perhaps you could provide more details on your needs/interests. Our business
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number is: (703) 860-0334. Our address:
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Interactive Engines, Inc.
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1803 Pepperridge Ln.
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Reston, VA 22091
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We look forward to hearing from you!
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Sincerely,
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Craig German
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#: 20984 S1/General Interest
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08-Jun-95 15:27:05
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Sb: #Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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To: all
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I just want to blow off some hot air after a frustrating day with Fastrak(PC)
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and Ultra C V1.2:
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Fastrak-PC is a bad joke to say the least (I wonder if anyone at MW ever took a
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look at Borland's IDE, that's how compiling and debugging dhould be done), and
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Ultra C 1.2 is even slower than 1.1 when compiling and linking (~ 200%), it
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builds 25% bigger and 15% to 20% slower code than 1.1.
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I'm sorry I wasted my company's money by buying Fastrak, I'll try the GNU C++
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compiler now.
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C.Daschill
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#: 20988 S1/General Interest
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12-Jun-95 17:17:19
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Sb: #20984-#Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041
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To: Christian Daschill 100112,277 (X)
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Christian,
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I haven't tried FasTrak myself yet, but from what I've heard from others and
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now from you, it is'nt worth giving it a try.
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Microware are definetely not doing a good job. They're at least 10 years
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behind. They still use KERMIT as their serial protocol, it's incredible. None
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of they're products works 100%, you always run into weird problems. Sometimes I
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feel I should give up on OS9, and try one of the other products on the market.
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I'm just afraid, that I'm gonna run into similar problems!
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Let me know about how the GNU compiler performs, maybe it is worth trying...
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Jost
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There are 3 Replies.
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#: 20990 S1/General Interest
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13-Jun-95 03:11:18
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Sb: #20988-Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472
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To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X)
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Jost,
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>> Microware are definetely not doing a good job. They're at least 10 years
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behind. <<
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Don't say such bad words:) Be happy that microware succeded to release an
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ANSI-C-Compiler at least! Two years ago when Ultra-C still wasn't usable I got
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a young guy on my side to produce some C-code. He would not believe that this
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language he had to use was also called (K&R-)C.
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So, is 10 years enough?
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Jochen
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-Joachim Terasa
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#: 20994 S1/General Interest
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14-Jun-95 01:40:30
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Sb: #20988-#Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X)
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Jost,
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I just hope somebody at Microware monitors that forum and realizes that the
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customers are not happy with their products.
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Chris
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 21006 S1/General Interest
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19-Jun-95 08:32:01
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Sb: #20994-Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005
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To: Christian Daschill 100112,277 (X)
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> Jost,
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> I just hope somebody at Microware monitors that forum and realizes that
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> the customers are not happy with their products.
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>
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> Chris
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Hi Chris,
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As an employee of Microware, it certainly concerns me when a customer is not
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satisfied. I can only recommend that you address your concerns to our
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marketing department. You can report any bugs or requests for enhancement to
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our hotline: hotline@microware.com.
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Regards -- Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY
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|_ _| \ \/ / CompuServe: 74464,3005 I use... _|
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|_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us
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|_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems
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#: 21011 S1/General Interest
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21-Jun-95 12:41:52
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Sb: #20988-Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X)
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I keep telling MW reps that they should just give away FastTrak... but they
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could charge for support on it.
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That would allow more companies to try out OS-9 and encourage its use.
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If they ended up using OS-9 because of this, the license/support fees would be
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far more beneficial over the long run to MW than charging for FastTrak itself.
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kev
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#: 21023 S1/General Interest
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26-Jun-95 09:09:42
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Sb: #20984-#Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Peter Eisele 100041,2304
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To: Christian Daschill 100112,277 (X)
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>I just want to blow off some hot air after a frustrating day with Fastrak(PC)
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>and Ultra C V1.2:
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Dear Mr. Daschill,
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If you run into problems with any of Microware products, you are very welcome
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to use our free hotline service. Do you use FasTrak with OS/2 ? This would be
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very interesting.
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Peter Eisele Dr. Rudolf Keil GmbH Customer Support
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 21028 S1/General Interest
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26-Jun-95 17:01:36
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Sb: #21023-#Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Peter Eisele 100041,2304 (X)
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Glad that Dr. Keil responded....I was going to do so myself, but didn't want to
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be cast as a mindless-microware-supporter (or mindless anything for that
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matter). The truth of the matter is that ultra-c did have some serious bugs in
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the initial versions. However, I have compiled some complex programs with 1.2
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and it appears to generate very good code. Certainly, things can get complex
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with ultra-c, especially when converting programs from K&R-type code. Before we
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flame MW too much, remember that their products are running on very distinct
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platforms and it is not possible to test the code on each variant....it is
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certainly much easier on a PC (mind you, Microsoft uses thousands of beta
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testers...and they have to pay for the privilege). So, cool down a bit before
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posting here with "this is shit" messages. It doesn't do you, Microware, or the
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OS9 community any good.
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#: 21030 S1/General Interest
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27-Jun-95 22:00:56
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Sb: #21028-#Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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>>So, cool down a bit before posting here with "this is shit" messages. It
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doesn't do you, Microware, or the OS9 community any good.<<
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Bob, I can't speak for others, but it did me good, to see that I'm not the only
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one who is frustrated with MW. If they would do, what they claim to do, LISTEN
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TO THEIR CUSTOMERS, their products would be much better.
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They don't even bother to do something in this forum, they leave it totally up
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to the users. They don't even advertise new releases, or new products. It
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appears to me, they don't care about their customers.
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Jost
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 21034 S1/General Interest
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28-Jun-95 19:19:35
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Sb: #21030-Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X)
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Rereading what I posted I think I did a flame. Sorry...not the idea...I must
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have been having a bad day.
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>They don't even bother to do something in this forum, they leave it totally
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>up to the users. They don't even advertise new releases, or new products. It
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>appears to me, they don't care about their customers.
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Good point. At one point they did have their own forum...but they really never
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did anything with it. I have a feeling that they may have figured that this was
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just a place for people with coco's etc. to hang out and wanted to devote their
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time to folks with "real" computers...or maybe they are just spread out to
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thin. No idea really...and I agree with you that they should have a official
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presence. On the other hand, if they are supporting with their hotline address,
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at least they are doing something.
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Anyway, I do know the good feeling one gets when one gets things off ones
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chest.
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#: 20997 S1/General Interest
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14-Jun-95 17:55:12
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Sb: Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041
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To: Christian Daschill 100112,277 (X)
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Christian,
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<<I just hope somebody at Microware monitors that forum and realizes that the
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customers are not happy with their products.>>
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I think they know that people are very unhappy, but I don't think they care a
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lot...
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Jost
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#: 21003 S1/General Interest
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17-Jun-95 00:52:35
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Sb: Scaleing
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Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob,
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Have you had a chance to use that mm2hp30 screen print driver yet ?
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I think I finally figured out what causes the problem that I had with
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the program sometimes printing the full screen and then again sometimes
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only printing half of the screen, even though _gs_scsz and _gs_winfo both
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report the same values.
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I think the problem is in the SCALE function. Well, not the function
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itself but whether the screen that is being printed has the SCALE function
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turned on or turned off.
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So, I was wondering if you have any ideas on how I can get the program
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to detect whether scaleing is on or off.
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larry
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#: 21007 S1/General Interest
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20-Jun-95 17:21:33
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Sb: #Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Niels Peter Bogholm 100566,2262
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To: Christian Daschill 100112,277 (X)
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Hi Christian (and Jost as well!)
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You are certainly very pessimistic about OS9 and UltraC...
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Well as we all know MW isn't as large as fx Borland or other PC-companies and
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therefore somehow don't have the same potential as in the PCworld. This is of
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cause _NO_ excuse for selling "bad" software!
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We are using FasTrak 1.1 (Solaris 2.3) and compared to other tools (Sun
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sparcworks or also Borland/Turbo C/C++) it is quite good! Of cause the first
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versions (1.0,1.1,..) all have minor (and a couple of major) bugs but is it not
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the same for all software written (incl our own) ?!
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Overall I find the FasTrak (Solaris 2.3 version!) a great tool!
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I have no experiences with UCC v1.2 yet (I get it nxt week perhaps then I
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understand your complaints..?!) but although the v1.1 doesn't produce _high_
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speed code the UCC could be much worse!
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My suggestion: Report all bugs/whishes or compliments direct to microware on
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hotline@microware.com (forget "Dr Keil" if you're located in germany cause they
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are _SLOW_ and really don't care). I report direct and always get a reply
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within 3 days and they are mostly really helpfull (if you are writing a
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_contructive_ letter !!!)
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About OS9: The OS is - compared to other realtime OS - not that bad! Some packs
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are better and other worse, but again MW only changes if the users report some
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_contructive_ feedback.
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don't worry, be happy ;-)
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Niels.
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#: 21009 S1/General Interest
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21-Jun-95 02:59:21
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Sb: #21007-#Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472
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To: Niels Peter Bogholm 100566,2262 (X)
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Hi Niels
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>> (forget "Dr Keil" if you're located in germany cause they are _SLOW_ and
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really don't care). <<
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True words! Any software-developer is a competitor for him, so why should he
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care?
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>> I report direct and always get a reply within 3 days and they are mostly
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really helpfull (if you are writing a _contructive_ letter !!!) <<
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Thats also my experience. But remembering OS-9 V 2.1 - how many weeks did I
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invest to get my software running just dealing with OS-bugs. Events - a very
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basic OS-service didn't work from C.
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Remembering when we bought the first release of Ultra-C with three months
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update-service. A little test program - just a bit more than 'hello world' - I
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couldn't get to run. This one was fixed in two updates within the three months
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but there were many bugs left.
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It must be allowed to ask, if it's ok to sell a product for several hundreds
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of dollars that really doesn't seem to be tested very well.
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>> The OS is - compared to other realtime OS - not that bad! <<
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That's the reason why it's still used very often. But really, there are others
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being of higher quality - compared to OS-9.
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Jochen
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-Joachim Terasa
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#: 21014 S1/General Interest
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22-Jun-95 03:17:59
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Sb: #21009-Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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To: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472 (X)
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Joachim,
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> It must be allowed to ask, if it's ok to sell a product for several hundreds
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of dollars >that really doesn't seem to be tested very well.
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I can only agree. We bought Ultra C as soon as it was available and spent a
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fortune on support contracts and the recent upgrade to Fastrak, but we are
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still using the V3.2 compiler for our development because of Ultra C's bugs and
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performance.
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I don't even want to think about the money the wasted ours cost us.
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Chris
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#: 21015 S1/General Interest
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22-Jun-95 03:20:44
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Sb: #21009-Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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To: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472 (X)
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Joachim,
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> It must be allowed to ask, if it's ok to sell a product for several hundreds
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of dollars >that really doesn't seem to be tested very well.
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I can only agree. We bought Ultra C as soon as it was available and spent a
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fortune on support contracts and the recent upgrade to Fastrak, but we are
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still using the V3.2 compiler for our development because of Ultra C's bugs and
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performance.
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I don't even want to think about the money the wasted hours cost us.
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Chris
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#: 21025 S1/General Interest
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26-Jun-95 09:09:53
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Sb: #21009-Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Peter Eisele 100041,2304
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To: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472 (X)
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> >> (forget "Dr Keil" if you're located in germany cause they are _SLOW_ and
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>really don't care). << > > True words! Any software-developer is a competitor
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for him, so why should he >care?
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Dear Mr. Terasa,
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please don't generate such rumours. If you have a reason to do that, please
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tell us about it first!
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Sincerely,
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Dr. R. Keil Dr. Rudolf Keil GmbH
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#: 21013 S1/General Interest
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22-Jun-95 03:11:37
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Sb: #21007-Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
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To: Niels Peter Bogholm 100566,2262 (X)
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Niels,
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I think you are right about the Unix version of Fastrak. I also heard that it
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was quite a nice package. In the PC domain, on the other hand, it looks like MW
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did just an alibi port without caring about performance and useability.
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A MW employee suggestet to take my questions and complaints to the MW Hotline,
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so I'll try that. In the meantime, if I could just get that 120MHz Pentium to
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have bearable link times... :<)
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Chris
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#: 21024 S1/General Interest
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26-Jun-95 09:09:48
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Sb: #21007-#Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Peter Eisele 100041,2304
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To: Niels Peter Bogholm 100566,2262 (X)
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>My suggestion: Report all bugs/whishes or compliments direct to microware on
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>hotline@microware.com (forget "Dr Keil" if you're located in germany cause
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>they are _SLOW_ and really don't care). I report direct and always get a reply
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>within 3 days and they are mostly really helpfull (if you are writing a
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>_contructive_ letter !!!)
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Dear Mr. Bogholm,
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as you know, our company puts a lot of efforts into hotline matters. If you
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don't feel happy, please let us know first. It is, however, not helpful for
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anybody to generate untrue rumours into the public.
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Sincerely,
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Dr. R. Keil Dr. Rudolf Keil GmbH
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 21027 S1/General Interest
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26-Jun-95 15:01:15
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Sb: #21024-Ultra C V 1.2
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Fm: Niels Peter Bogholm 100566,2262
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To: Peter Eisele 100041,2304 (X)
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Dear Mr Eisele,
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What a interessting experience: Suddently when someone speaks a negative word
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about Dr. Kiel you get _very_ active ! If you would be that active in hotline
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matters I would be very impressed ! Well I won't lose this forums space (and my
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time) about your hotline and it's qualities, but it's obvious that I'm _not_
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the only costumer who's complaining - so untrue rumors ....???
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And it's a _fact_ that the Microware hotline is fast responding and helpfull.
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Or try the SUN hotline: Once you ask a question, they (and not the costumer!)
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call you back until they are sure about, that the problem is solved!! (Well
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that's the difference between the german and american way..!)
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Please fell free to contact me at my office and I can provide you with more
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information about unanswered questions that I wrote your "hot"line months ago!
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Niels Boegholm.
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(089) 909994-52 (office)
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#: 21010 S1/General Interest
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21-Jun-95 12:29:22
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Sb: FasTrak for Windows
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Fm: Rick Hunt, MATRIX 76077,3237
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To: All
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Does anyone have experience setting up and using FasTrak for Windows? We're
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having a variety of problems and would appreciate any help available.
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If you prefer you can reach me via email at INTERNET:rlh@matrix.com
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Thanks, Rick
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#: 21012 S1/General Interest
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21-Jun-95 22:29:02
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Sb: www
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Fm: tom farrow 72701,543
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To: all
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Does anyone know if MW got on to the WWW yet if so how do you contact them?
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#: 21019 S1/General Interest
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25-Jun-95 03:21:58
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Sb: OS9 Sourcebook
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: all
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I have been asked to forward this message to users here. It is an
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information form for an OS9 Sourcebook that is upcoming. Sort of a
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directory of users etc.
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If you will take the time to fill it out and return it, I'm sure it
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will be appreciated, and perhaps quite beneficial to all of us.
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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If you have not already sent in your User form to the sourcebook please
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send in the one below to either:
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'Thetaurus@Delphi.Com'
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or snail mail at...
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The OS-9 Users' Group Inc.
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6158 West 63rd Street
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Suite 109
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Chicago, Il. 60638
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U.S.A
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At the end of this post will be the user entry form for the OS-9
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Users' Group sourcebook. Initial response was great, but returns
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have dropped off since. Please make it a point to fill it out and
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return it to me(Thetaurus) so I can add your name to the database.
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It takes not more than a couple minutes and couldn't be any
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easier. You just need to fill it out and return it(email even :-)
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), so please return this form with your name so we can keep the
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response coming! Btw, in the upcoming MOTD we will have the BBS
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entry form for sysops or users for that matter, to send in for
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their bulletin board systems. I'll post the form here soon after.
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The Industrial user form might also be in the next issue as well.
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If not the next one, then the one after, tho it really doesn't
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affect many of us here who are really personal users. If you know
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any industrial users, please do make sure they see it when it
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comes out.
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________Form Coming...________
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OS-9 Sourcebook Information Form
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--------------------------------
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Name:
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Business:
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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Address:
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------------------------------------------------------------
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City: State: ZIP:
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---------------- --------------- --------------------
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Country: Telephone:( ) -
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---------------- ---------------------------------
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EMail Address:
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-----------------------------------------------------
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Signature: Date: 07 /06 /1995
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------------------------------------ DD MM YY
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Would you like information on
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joining the OS-9 Users Group? o Already a Member! o Yes o No
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Can this information be passed to OS-9 vendors? o Yes o No
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Are you available to act as a volunteer for OS-9 o Yes o No
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projects from time to time? This isn't a commitment.
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Please indicate your area(s) of interest:
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o OS-9/6809 o OS-9/68000 o OS-9000
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o Programming o Hardware Other ________________________
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You use OS-9 primarily for what purpose:
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o personal use o industrial system o both
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Please describe briefly your OS-9 computer system(s):
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Please describe briefly your computer and OS-9 experience:
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Please describe your OS-9 interests (things you would like to see the
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UG do, or see in the MOTD), or list any other questions or comments:
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#: 21038 S1/General Interest
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29-Jun-95 15:56:39
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Sb: #Upgrade OS-9 2.4 => 3.0?
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Fm: Georg Lohrer 100415,2175
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To: ALL
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Does anybody have experiences about the difficulties and hidden traps when
|
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upgrading from OS-9 Version 2.4 to OS-9 Version 3.0 ? We want to upgrade - to
|
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up-to-date - but we are afraid of bugs and much work to change our
|
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machine-controlling-software.
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So, please send me a short information about your experiences or a place where
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I can get more infos about this stuff.
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Thanks, Georg Lohrer, 29-Jun-95 21:52:47 CET Storming through CIS with OzWin
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1.10
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 21039 S1/General Interest
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29-Jun-95 18:17:53
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Sb: #21038-Upgrade OS-9 2.4 => 3.0?
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Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041
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To: Georg Lohrer 100415,2175
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>>Does anybody have experiences about the difficulties and hidden traps when
|
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upgrading from OS-9 Version 2.4 to OS-9 Version 3.0 ? We want to upgrade - to
|
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up-to-date - but we are afraid of bugs and much work to change our
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machine-controlling-software.<<
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Hi Georg,
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I have a lot of experience with upgrading from 2.4 to 3.0. It's not that big a
|
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problem. Only some device drivers won't work, because MW changed the
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specifiaction for device drivers. Actually, none of the device drivers we were
|
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using (for a graphics and a serial board) would work with 3.0. Also your boot
|
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method might not work. I was using the OS-9 MVME162 BSP, which comes with a
|
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boot prom from MW. The boot prom for 2.4 could not boot 3.0, you have to use
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the new prom.
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These should be all the problems that arise with upgrading, from my experience.
|
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If you don't use other device drivers than the ones that come with OS-9, and if
|
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you use a boot prom from an OS-9 vendor, you shouldn't have a problem at all.
|
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OS-9 3.0 is much more predictable in it's real time response than 2.4. So it's
|
|
worth making the step, IMO. Also, MW's new developments are for 3.0 of course,
|
|
another reason to do the upgrade, as you said, to stay up-to-date.
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|
|
If you need help with the upgrade, let me know. Right know I am in the US, but
|
|
I'll move back to Germany next week (I take it from your name that's where you
|
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are). I will try to start my own business there. So I'm available to help you
|
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out!!!
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Jost
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#: 21036 S5/OS9 Users Group
|
|
29-Jun-95 07:00:56
|
|
Sb: Microware UK Telephone
|
|
Fm: Andy Richards 100045,1355
|
|
To: SYSOP (X)
|
|
|
|
Hello,
|
|
|
|
Could you help me by telling where I can go in the UK to buy OS9 for 68K
|
|
machines? I believe that Microware exists in the UK but I can't find it.
|
|
|
|
Many thanks
|
|
|
|
Andy Richards
|
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|
|
#: 21005 S6/Applications
|
|
18-Jun-95 20:08:09
|
|
Sb: #20967-#Zip Bug fixed(?)
|
|
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
|
|
To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)
|
|
|
|
Sorry about the FROM_MEDIA FROM_DISK problem in ln.c. I don't remember
|
|
even posting that version!!! Anyway, you are correct that changing MEDIA to
|
|
DISK
|
|
will correct the problem.
|
|
|
|
The reason the #define was put in was the SCSI disk drivers that came with the
|
|
TC-70 would always send back 256 as the sector size, even if it was really 512.
|
|
|
|
Where did you get the link() function? Was it included in the ZIP sources?
|
|
And
|
|
is my name in it?
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|
|
|
- Mike -
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|
|
PS. Something else to watch out for with ln.c. If you do a link on a file you
|
|
have
|
|
open, the link count won't get properly incremented. Ran into that with CNews.
|
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|
|
There is 1 Reply.
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|
#: 21008 S6/Applications
|
|
20-Jun-95 20:52:45
|
|
Sb: #21005-Zip Bug fixed(?)
|
|
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
|
|
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
|
|
|
|
> Sorry about the FROM_MEDIA FROM_DISK problem in ln.c. I don't remember
|
|
> even posting that version!!! Anyway, you are correct that changing MEDIA
|
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> to DISK will correct the problem.
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|
|
|
It was a simple change, really. Not really difficult to find after I got over
|
|
the laziness of getting started at looking at the source. If that error was
|
|
yours, had you already discovered it?
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|
|
|
> The reason the #define was put in was the SCSI disk drivers that came with
|
|
> the TC-70 would always send back 256 as the sector size, even if it was
|
|
> really 512.
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|
|
|
Yes, there was some info in there about that.
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|
|
|
> Where did you get the link() function? Was it included in the ZIP
|
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> sources? And is my name in it?
|
|
|
|
I downloaded this with the Zip archive from Delphi, I believe. Someone has
|
|
just uploaded a modified version with the FROM_DISK fixed, and apparently
|
|
another change or two, since their module is a different length than mine. The
|
|
link() function was with the sources. Someone sent me a version of Zip that
|
|
didn't utilize the link() function.
|
|
|
|
In looking over the source, there is a file called "osk.c" and this stuff is in
|
|
it. Ln is credit to Bob Larson and it is noted that you had added
|
|
sector-checking, it says Dec 8, 1992.
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|
|
|
I don't believe I saw any name as to who was responsible for the port of Zip
|
|
itself.
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|
|
|
> PS. Something else to watch out for with ln.c. If you do a link on a file
|
|
> you have
|
|
> open, the link count won't get properly incremented. Ran into that with
|
|
> CNews.
|
|
|
|
This might be good for several to know. I had never fooled with this aspect of
|
|
disk structure. To be honest, I was not really clear on the actual function of
|
|
the link field, but I figured it out and with experimenting with ded, found out
|
|
exactly what the link count did <G>
|
|
|
|
-- David Breeding --
|
|
CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
|
|
*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
|
|
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|
#: 20996 S6/Applications
|
|
14-Jun-95 15:12:30
|
|
Sb: #Dynamic Binary Fixup
|
|
Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336
|
|
To: All
|
|
|
|
Does anyone know if it's possible to load and un-load self-contained code
|
|
dynamically in OS-9 using anything other than OS-9 modules? What I would like
|
|
to be able to do is have a primary task that doesn't know at startup what
|
|
functions it needs, and that it loads binaries on an as needed basis. As an
|
|
example, let's say I didn't know ahead of time that I would need to display
|
|
text. I determine this need at run-time, request a load of a text display
|
|
executable (with an API that is known), and then begin to make text display
|
|
calls. Is this only possible using OS-9 modules?
|
|
|
|
The reasons for avoiding modules are: 1) I'm not sure if loading a module uses
|
|
malloc, and if it does, I was told mallocs are bad in OS-9, at least in a CD-I
|
|
environment; and 2), I wanted to know if there was some less OS-9 specific
|
|
method of doing this.
|
|
|
|
Thanks,
|
|
|
|
Craig German
|
|
|
|
There are 4 Replies.
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|
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#: 20999 S6/Applications
|
|
15-Jun-95 03:30:59
|
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Sb: #20996-#Dynamic Binary Fixup
|
|
Fm: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472
|
|
To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 (X)
|
|
|
|
Craig,
|
|
Modules are part of the basic concept of OS-9. I thing it is a fine thing from
|
|
the developers sight. So I don't see any reason to avoid them.
|
|
1.I'm really not sure if OS-9 uses malloc internally for allocating modules.
|
|
Though it is true that malloc with OS-9 has its problems, i never had problem
|
|
with modules.
|
|
2. Even if there are standards as posix is, you will alway have some features
|
|
being specific to any operating system. So why do you want to avoid them? In
|
|
some level of abstraction it is all the same, if modules or not.
|
|
|
|
Jochen
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|
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|
-Joachim Terasa
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 21000 S6/Applications
|
|
15-Jun-95 10:43:55
|
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Sb: #20999-Dynamic Binary Fixup
|
|
Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336
|
|
To: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472 (X)
|
|
|
|
Joachim,
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|
|
|
Thanks for the response. I agree with you about this issue -- I actually
|
|
posted it because an associate and I had a disagreement about the impact of
|
|
portability concerns for our system architecture, and I was looking for some
|
|
external validation.
|
|
|
|
Again, thanks!
|
|
|
|
Craig German
|
|
|
|
#: 21001 S6/Applications
|
|
15-Jun-95 12:04:54
|
|
Sb: #20996-#Dynamic Binary Fixup
|
|
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
|
|
To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 (X)
|
|
|
|
I used to do OS9 development, but it's beena while...
|
|
|
|
Malloc() is typically an application class function. I would think that when
|
|
allocating memory for executable operation that the operating system would use
|
|
a lower level call (like sbreak(), ibreak(), or f$mem).
|
|
|
|
We used loadable modules in our application without problems (os9 2.4 on 68040
|
|
VME boxes). Just watch those link counts!
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|
|
Pete Lyall
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 21002 S6/Applications
|
|
16-Jun-95 09:31:42
|
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Sb: #21001-Dynamic Binary Fixup
|
|
Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336
|
|
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
|
|
|
|
Thanks!
|
|
|
|
Craig German
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#: 21032 S6/Applications
|
|
28-Jun-95 15:12:41
|
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Sb: #20996-#Dynamic Binary Fixup
|
|
Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526
|
|
To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 (X)
|
|
|
|
Hello Craig,
|
|
there is a User Group in Europe, called European Forum for OS9 (EFFO). They
|
|
have a magazine 3 times a year. In the mag (OS9 International) there is in the
|
|
latest issue
|
|
an article about this topic: Subroutinemodules (dynamic link libraries they are
|
|
called in the Windows world nowadays). They are designed for that purpose you
|
|
need.
|
|
Unfortuntely Microware only talk about basic09 subroutine modules.
|
|
But this is not the only language you can use this mechanism.
|
|
have a closer look at the magazine.
|
|
To get the sources to that article and some information send a mail (internet)
|
|
to:
|
|
INTERNET:os9int@effo.ch
|
|
|
|
Hope I helped you out!
|
|
|
|
Martin Raabe
|
|
programming OS-9 since 1987
|
|
(BTW using OS-9 on the 68060 is gorgeous!!!)
|
|
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
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|
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#: 21037 S6/Applications
|
|
29-Jun-95 11:47:41
|
|
Sb: #21032-Dynamic Binary Fixup
|
|
Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336
|
|
To: M. Raabe 100327,1526 (X)
|
|
|
|
Thanks a lot, Martin! I'll take your advice.
|
|
|
|
Craig German
|
|
Interactive Engines, Inc.
|
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|
|
#: 21033 S6/Applications
|
|
28-Jun-95 15:41:19
|
|
Sb: #20996-Dynamic Binary Fixup
|
|
Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526
|
|
To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 (X)
|
|
|
|
Hi Craig,
|
|
There is a Internet EMail site at my office, where the PD-disks from EFFO
|
|
are stored in Germany. Here you can retrieve all disks, one special disk or the
|
|
help text.
|
|
Simply write an email to 'INTERNET:os9int@eltec.de' and fill in as subject
|
|
'help' to get the helpdesk.
|
|
|
|
Here the latest disk is available containing the sources to get the advantage
|
|
of shared libraries.
|
|
|
|
Hope I helped you out!
|
|
|
|
Martin Raabe
|
|
Worms
|
|
Germany
|
|
|
|
#: 20978 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
|
02-Jun-95 17:21:39
|
|
Sb: #20849-UUCP/SMTP
|
|
Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526
|
|
To: ole hansen 100016,3417 (X)
|
|
|
|
Hi ole,
|
|
what did I miss?
|
|
Are you having a solution for my problem?
|
|
I'm using the TOP-UUCP to connect a OS-9 based EMail Net company-wide
|
|
(>20 68020/30/40 based computers). There are (unfortunately) PC-users
|
|
who want to be connected to the UUCP-EMail from their MHS / Novel / TCP/IP /
|
|
...
|
|
worlds.
|
|
I'd love to hear from you.
|
|
TIA Martin Raabe (mraabe@mrehome.eltec.de)
|
|
|
|
#: 20977 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
|
02-Jun-95 17:10:12
|
|
Sb: #20850-OS9 v3.0 ISP
|
|
Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526
|
|
To: Niels Peter Bogholm 100566,2262 (X)
|
|
|
|
Hallo Niels,
|
|
in Deutschland gibt es mehrere Hersteller guter TCP/IP stacks.
|
|
Fur welche Plattform wird es denn benotigt?
|
|
|
|
Ich arbeite bei einem VMEbus-board Hersteller.
|
|
Wir haben das MW-ISP 2.0 und OS9TCP 2.0 von ASS im Programm, um Probleme wie
|
|
die Ihren in den Griff zu bekommen. Man kann halt nicht alles (von MW) haben!
|
|
|
|
Ciao Martin Raabe
|
|
|
|
#: 21004 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
|
18-Jun-95 20:07:52
|
|
Sb: #20955-HP Jet Direct Net-Interf
|
|
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
|
|
To: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472 (X)
|
|
|
|
The OS-9 to HP-Jet Direct card is one I'm dealing with also. Our problem is no
|
|
real
|
|
way to 'spool' the files on the OS-9 side. Without a spooler I'm seeing
|
|
printjobs
|
|
disappearing. I've got an Idea that just might work, (the spl package from
|
|
here
|
|
printing to a socket instead of a device or pipe), but havn't had a chance to
|
|
play
|
|
with it yet.
|
|
|
|
I'll let you all know if it works,
|
|
|
|
- Mike -
|
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|
|
#: 20980 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
|
02-Jun-95 17:22:03
|
|
Sb: #20974-#Alarms 'disappearing'
|
|
Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526
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To: Ian J Shearer 100410,2733 (X)
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Hi Ian,
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as far as I know the fix of OS-9 V3.0.1 should be ok, isn't it?
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Ciao Martin Raabe
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mraabe@mrehome.eltec.de
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 20983 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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08-Jun-95 11:17:04
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Sb: #20980-Alarms 'disappearing'
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Fm: Ian J Shearer 100410,2733
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To: M. Raabe 100327,1526 (X)
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Martin,
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Not really. All the 'fix' does is to prevent a task from deleting alarms
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sourced by a different user ID. If you have several tasks spawned by the same
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parent this provides no protection at all.
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Ian
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#: 20982 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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06-Jun-95 14:14:28
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Sb: Consulting in NYC area
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Fm: Michael A. Cohen 73304,3026
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To: All,
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***URGENT/IMMEDIATE NEED***
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Spectrum Concepts Consulting Corp., an information technology consulting firm
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providing leading-edge consulting expertise to the NYC area since 1979, is
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looking for an OS-9 Specialist to work ON-SITE at one of our most prestigious
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clients in the NYC area. The contract is immediate and at least one year
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length.
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Skills Required:
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* OS-9 Expertise
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Skills Desired:
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* C Programming
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* CD-i
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* David
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* Interactive TV
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The project involves designing and developing the software component for an
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interactive TV hardware box based on OS-9.
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For More Details please contact:
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Michael Cohen, Technical Recruiter
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Spectrum Concepts Consulting Corp.
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150 Broadway, Suite 600, New York, NY 10038
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phone (212)791-4800 x248
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fax resumes to (212)791-6639
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***Referral Fees Paid . . . Refer your friends/associates!!!**
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#: 21016 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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22-Jun-95 20:06:47
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Sb: #OS-9000 help
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: All
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OK, OS-9000 users. New Guy here. A few questions.
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OS-9000 us up and running on my "486DX4/100", and I am slowly getting it to
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obey. I have some OS-9 experience, COCO I,II,III and OS-9/68000 on my MM/1a,
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so I am not completely lost, but there are a couple little things I still can't
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get to work.
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1. Comm ports. I can use T1 and T2. Even had STERM talking to CIS when I had
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the (internal) modem on T2 (COM2). Then I moved the modem to T4 (COM4). T2 is
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now a simple serial port. T2 still works, I can plug it into an external modem
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or null-modem to the MM/1, but I cannot get OS-9000 to talk to T4. Messydos &
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Windoze and even OS/2 can find that modem, but OS-9000 cannot. COM2 and COM4
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are BOTH using IRQ3, but I am not trying to use them at the same time.
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2. Printer. I am using LPT1. The address of the port seems right accord to
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the BIOS and the information with the OS-9000 system. It even makes the lights
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blink and puts the Deskjet through its INIT routine when I load and init
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p.lpt1. When I try to print something, the lights blink on the printer and the
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system hangs. LPT1 works fine with the other operating systems, of course.
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Current method of printing from OS-9000 is to pass it via null modem to the
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MM/1.
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3. Disk formats. No big deal here, but I sure can't get the MM/1 and the
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OS-9000 system to agree on what a "universal disk" is. I CAN get them both to
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read and write on a High density messydos disk, so I use that for transfers.
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4. Graphics. Anything available to get OS-9000 to speak to the Trident 94xx
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VGA card in this beast? I need a CGFX_VGA.L lib (grin).
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Suggestions welcome.
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John Wainwright (johnreed@delphi.com 72517.676@compuserve.com)
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There are 2 Replies.
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#: 21017 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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23-Jun-95 08:57:01
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Sb: #21016-#OS-9000 help
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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John -
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Well, I don't know if this helps any, but usually COM3 and COM4 share
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interrupts with COM1 and COM2 (IRQ 4 and IRQ 3 respectively). That's where I
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would start looking.
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Pete
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 21018 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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24-Jun-95 13:22:18
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Sb: #21017-OS-9000 help
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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> John -
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>
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> Well, I don't know if this helps any,
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> but usually COM3 and COM4 share
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> interrupts with COM1 and COM2 (IRQ 4
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> and IRQ 3 respectively). That's where I
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> would start looking.
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>
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> Pete
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>
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Yeah, COM2 and COM4 are both using IRQ3. BUT -- I don't try to use them at
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the same time. In fact, with OS-9000, I only load one of the device
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descriptors. Messydos and OS/2 on the same box let me get away with that. I
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hate to start playing IRQ-Roulette on the 486 - everything you fix breaks
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something else.
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Thanks,
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John
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#: 21020 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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25-Jun-95 05:10:37
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Sb: #21016-#OS-9000 help
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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John,
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Congratulations on getting OS9000 up and running. Which version are you
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running? Using the release sold at the CocoFest in Chicago a few years ago
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*may* account for some of your problems. As I recollect, there were many
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bugs in it. The latest version is 1.3. - much smoother. I think its worth
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spending $200 per year for the support contract. In addition to hotline
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support, you should be able to get the latest version of OS9000 as part of
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the package. The people at MW say version 2.0 should be released in the
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next couple of months.
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> 1. Comm ports. I can use T1 and T2. Even had STERM talking to CIS when I
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> had the (internal) modem on T2 (COM2). Then I moved the modem to T4
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> (COM4). T2 is now a simple serial port. T2 still works, I can plug it
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> into an external modem or null-modem to the MM/1, but I cannot get OS-9000
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> to talk to T4. Messydos & Windoze and even OS/2 can find that modem, but
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> OS-9000 cannot. COM2 and COM4 are BOTH using IRQ3, but I am not trying to
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> use them at the same time.
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If MSDOS, etc. can find and speak to the modem correctly, its safe to say you
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have the card configured correctly. Check the data for the descriptor to
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be sure it matches your modem configuration. This information is stored
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in '/dd/PORTS/PCAT/systype.h'. Use '/dd/PORTS/PCAT/mk.scfdesc' to make a
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new descriptor. BTW, I use an internal modem on t3 - no problems.
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> 2. Printer. I am using LPT1. The address of the port seems right
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> accord to the BIOS and the information with the OS-9000 system.
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> It even makes the lights blink and puts the Deskjet through its
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> INIT routine when I load and init p.lpt1. When I try to print
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> something, the lights blink on the printer and the system hangs.
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> LPT1 works fine with the other operating systems, of course.
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> Current method of printing from OS-9000 is to pass it via null
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> modem to the MM/1.
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Don't have any suggestions for this one. I've had no problems. Currently,
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I'm using either an old OKI 192 or a HP 4+. Both work fine. You might
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try calling MW's hotline.
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> 3. Disk formats. No big deal here, but I sure can't get the MM/1
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> and the OS-9000 system to agree on what a "universal disk" is. I
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> CAN get them both to read and write on a High density messydos
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> disk, so I use that for transfers.
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OS-9/68000 and OS9000 'universal formats' are not the same. If I remember
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correctly, the main difference is where the FAT is placed. Using 'os9copy'
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or 'os9dsave' located in the '/dd/CMDS/UNSUPPORTED' directory, you should
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be able to read OS-9/68000 universal format disks. Otherwise, you're doing
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what most of us are doing - transferring via MSDOS disks or via the serial
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port.
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> 4. Graphics. Anything available to get OS-9000 to speak to the
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> Trident 94xx VGA card in this beast? I need a CGFX_VGA.L lib
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> (grin).
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Well, I have G-WINDOWS for OS9000. Have 2 drivers that should work with your
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card'. These are generic drivers giving a resolution of 640x480x16. I have
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additional drivers for specific cards (the Trident isn't included) providing
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resolutions up to 1200x1024x256. With the optional Developer's Pak, you
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have what you need to write software for gfx using G-WINDOWS. Alternatively,
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you can purchase RAVE. I don't think there is a driver for the Trident cards,
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but a skeleton driver is included you can fill in to make your own driver.
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Ed
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 21021 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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25-Jun-95 21:56:26
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Sb: #21020-#OS-9000 help
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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Ed,
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Thanks for the advice on the serial and printer ports.
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Mine is the system that was sold at that Chicago Fest - I bought it from
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another user.
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(Update) - I have managed to get both /T2 and /T4 drivers working, had to
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remove all serial ports from the boot, and load ONLY the one I plan to use. To
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use the other one, I must reboot (sometimes twice) and start over. DEINIZ and
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UNLINK don't seem to remove enough of one to let the other work.
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Printer - I am beginning to suspect my cables. When I put the "accelerator"
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68340 board in the MM/1, I discovered that I had to switch to short shielded
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cables for the printer - something kinda marginal in the timing with the faster
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system. Maybe a similar problem (486 has a ribbon cable on the printer port).
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GWINDOWS sounds attractive. I couldn't quite convince myself to buy it when
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you made the offer for an MM/1 port, but the MM/1 already has graphics, the 486
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with OS-9000 does not.
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I am presently in "Father of the Bride" mode - not a lot of extra bucks for a
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couple months, but I should recover by Fall.
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Thanks again for the help. John Wainwright
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There are 2 Replies.
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#: 21031 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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28-Jun-95 05:22:59
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Sb: #21021-OS-9000 help
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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John,
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I had forgotten some of the problems I had when I went to a 'fast' 486.
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Originially, I used 25 and 33 MHz machines and didn't have any problems
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running OS9000 attributable to hardware. When I went to my current hardware,
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a DX-2/66, I did have many problems. (Unfortunately, I didn't document them.)
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MW suggested I remove all caching. I did this and things worked properly.
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Started adding caching until problems cropped up. Turned out I couldn't
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enable 'External Cache Memory'. BOIS is AMI. Since you're running at 100
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MHz, you may have a similar problem.
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> (Update) - I have managed to get both /T2 and /T4 drivers working, had to
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> remove all serial ports from the boot, and load ONLY the one I plan to use.
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> To use the other one, I must reboot (sometimes twice) and start over.
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> DEINIZ and UNLINK don't seem to remove enough of one to let the other work.
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I have t1 and t2 in my boot file and load t3 in the startup file. I use
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t1 for a terminal, t2 is my mouse and t3 my internal modem. I've had no
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conflicts between t1 and t3. I haven't tried running a modem from t1, but
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I have run the modem (t3) from a terminal on t1. I don't remember if I had
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problems putting t3 in the boot or I just didn't get around to making a new
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boot.
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I don't remember whether earlier version of OS9000 included them but version
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1.3 includes descriptors and a driver for the DigiTech Serial card. These
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are in the PORTS/PC8 directory. They use the higher irqs available on
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16 bit buses. I haven't tried them yet, but it seems they may work as
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written or with a minor modification with modem cards that permit accessing
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these irqs.
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> Printer - I am beginning to suspect my cables. When I put the "accelerator"
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> 68340 board in the MM/1, I discovered that I had to switch to short shielded
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> cables for the printer - something kinda marginal in the timing with the
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> faster system. Maybe a similar problem (486 has a ribbon cable on the
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printer
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> port).
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Well, maybe. But I think you said the printer worked properly under DOS and
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WINDOWS. This suggests that the hardware is OK. I'd suspect either the
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hardware's caching or the 'pcpll' driver. I don't remember if I had problems
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with the earlier version of OS9000 but I don't with 1.3. I go through about
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15 feet of cable and 2 printer switches (definitely not recommended).
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Several GFX programs I wrote work OK as does 'PSF'. You mentioned (re
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serial ports) you had to remove the serial ports from the boot and load them.
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I load 'lpt2' and 'pcpll' from the startup file. Don't remember why.
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(Sometimes I do things the 'easiest' way and don't get around to doing them
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'properly'.)
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> I am presently in "Father of the Bride" mode - not a lot of extra bucks for
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> a couple months, but I should recover by Fall.
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Congratulations! Didn't you know in this mode you are supposed to have
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bottomless pockets <g>? E-mail me your mailing address and I'll send you
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a demo copy of G-WINDOWS.
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Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
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#: 21035 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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28-Jun-95 21:51:52
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Sb: #21021-OS-9000 help
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Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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> GWINDOWS sounds attractive. I couldn't quite convince myself to buy it
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> when you made the offer for an MM/1 port, but the MM/1 already has
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> graphics, the 486 with OS-9000 does not.
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John, I would like to put in a plug for GWINDOWS. I got it with my system when
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I bought it from Ed. I am totally impressed. It has features that I still
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cannot believe. Of course, with everything, I can compose a little wish list
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for it, but basically, I don't think I could live without it now.
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It did take me a little time to get over the jet lag from coming over from the
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coco. I liked a lot of its features. Not being able to just jump from one
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screen to another took a little getting used to, but now, everything seems
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quite natural.
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One small feature that I am really endeared to is its cut and copy feature. It
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seems to have 1000 uses. One thing I have done with it, although my need for
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it is my fault, is that I have dialed up a BBS which uses hard-to-remember
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passwords. Rather than use file transfers or whatnot, I can just list it to a
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screen, cut, and double-click on the telecom window and transmit it that way.
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You can even send a small file this way. I know this particular usage is not
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necessary, as there are other ways, but I just use this to demonstrate what
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_can_ be done.
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When you can see your way clear, I would definitely go for it.
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-- David Breeding --
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CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING
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*** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***
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#: 21022 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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25-Jun-95 22:34:37
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Sb: MM/1 System for Sale
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Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117
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To: ALL
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For Sale: Complete MM/1 System, S/N 120848 with IMS manuals
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Includes: IMS Slimline case & power supply
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I/O board
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OS-9/68000 v2.4 with Microware manuals
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3 megabytes RAM
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4 serial ports (/t0, /t1, /t2, & /t3)
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2 parallel ports (/p & /p1)
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2 1.4MB floppy drives
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105 MB Quantum hard drive
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101 key XT/AT switchable keyboard
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Logitech 3 button Series 9 serial mouse
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Magnavox 8CM515 color monitor
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MM/1 Technical Manual
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Software: FHL's FBU & FRS backup/restore software
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(Includes original FHL's DynaStar & DynaForm for 68000
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disk & manual) BGFX
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Fontasee font editor
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WriteRight word processor
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Speedisk disk defragmenter
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Ved, Vprint, & Vmail
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EthaGUI
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Desktop
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TasCOM
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ColorSystems Game Pack
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Lots of public domain software
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Asking $700.00 for the complete system. I will bring this system to the Atlanta
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'Fest if anyone is seriously interested.
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If interested, leave E-Mail.
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Ernest Withers CIS: 71545,1117 Delphi: ERNIEWITHERS
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