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85451 5-FEB 20:43 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Modules (Re: Msg 85397)
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From: THETAURUS To: DSRTFOX
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>>CDS in NOT affiliated with Peripheral Tech though...they are a
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competitor!
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Oops<G>. Thanks for the info Frank. Seeing that they were both
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from the same area, with similar products and prices, I thought maybe
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they were related somehow. I know that is normally how competition
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works, but I mean, in the OS9 market? I can't see it being dominant in
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any one place. Of course Georgia does appear to be the closest we've
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come to actually having a Coco and OS9 populated state or region<as
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far as I know>.
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See Ya
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>Chris<
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-*-
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85456 6-FEB 04:54 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Modules (Re: Msg 85397)
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From: EDELMAR To: DSRTFOX
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> ... CDS is NOT affiliated with Peripheral Tech though... they are a
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> competitor!
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Not quite correct. CDS and PT are separate Companies. Fred Brown designed
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both boards. The Companies share some resources. But I wouldn't call
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them competitors. Don't know the reason for 2 separate Companies but my guess
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is that it was done on the advice of his accountant and/or attorney.
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Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
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-*-
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85476 6-FEB 19:56 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Modules (Re: Msg 85456)
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From: DSRTFOX To: EDELMAR
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Hmm... I knew they had separate addresses and were separate companies, but
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didn't know Fred designed both boards or had any connection with CDS. Thanks
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for the clarification!
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-*-
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85498 7-FEB 21:31 General Information
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RE: OS-9 Modules (Re: Msg 85373)
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From: NEALSTEWARD To: EDELMAR (NR)
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Thanks Ed, my only source of information was old Rainbow ads, so my
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information was outdated. Do you know if anyone sells an upgrade (from
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1.14.6) to 1.16? I remember one was offered, but didn't know where to
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get it. That is probable the version I was refering to.
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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-*-
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85452 5-FEB 22:09 Programmers Den
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RE: C question (Re: Msg 85437)
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From: COLORSYSTEMS To: JOHNREED
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Which is one reason why I never, ever use buffered input!!! I always use
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a read() for single character input and readln() for multiple character
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input.
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------------------------------------
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Zack C Sessions
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ColorSystems
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"I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assimi ... OOOOHHH, DOUGHNUTS!"
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-*-
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85459 6-FEB 07:17 Programmers Den
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RE: C question (Re: Msg 85452)
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From: ZOGSTER To: COLORSYSTEMS
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> Which is one reason why I never, ever use buffered input!!! I always use
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> a read() for single character input and readln() for multiple character
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> input.
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The only problem with that is that your code is no longer portable.
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I want to write portable code which means staying with only the
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standard library (putchar,putc,puts,getchar,getc,gets,printf,scanf,etc.).
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Writes and reads are non-standard and machine dependant.
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Jim
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85469 6-FEB 17:53 Programmers Den
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RE: C question (Re: Msg 85445)
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From: CHYDE To: ZOGSTER
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If you're using gets() or scanf() then you are using buffered I/O (unless
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you set it to nonbuffered with setbuf()). If you want to use unbuffered
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I/O try using read() or readln() itead. Using readlin() will allow you
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to use the standard line buffer editor commands (just like you were typing
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at the OS9: prompt) and no BS char will enter the string typed in.
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Again if you really want to use unbuffered I/O you should the system calls
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rather than the library calls, since this is what they were made for. If
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want to use a 'hot key' try the following:
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char ans;
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printf("Enter answer: ");
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fflush(stdout); /* flush it just to be sure */
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read(0,&ans,1); /* will wait for a single key press then */
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/* return with the value in ans */
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do whatever here
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I do this all the time for hot keys (all the hot keys in DevSys are done
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using similar code {shameless plug}).
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Chris
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(CHYDE)
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85470 6-FEB 18:10 Programmers Den
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RE: C question (Re: Msg 85459)
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From: CHYDE To: ZOGSTER
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Since you want portablity you'll find that all the stdlib I/O functions
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use buffered I/O and that OS9's fix setbuf() is not available for other
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OS's. Use of system calls does not necessarily mean non-compatiblity
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however, it depends on the systems you're porting to. You can try an
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old trick if you'd like for your hot keys, rather than use the read()
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call try the follwoing function:
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int hot(char *ans)
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{
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read(0,ans,1);
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return ans;
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} /* oops the function declaration should be char *hot(...) */
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Then for each port you will only have to rewrite (maybe) this function.
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I've done this with several Unix programs and GNU does it regularly, just
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a thought.
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Chris
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(CHYDE)
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-*-
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85471 6-FEB 18:44 Programmers Den
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RE: C question (Re: Msg 85443)
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From: JEJONES To: ZOGSTER
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> Isn't '\0' a NULL in standard C?
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'\0' is a character constant. In standard C, it has type int (weird, eh?);
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in C++ it has type char. Its value is zero.
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What the ANSI C standard says is that *if you cast 0 to a pointer type*,
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the result will be a null pointer. There are, in fact, systems in which
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the null pointer does not have all bits zero, so it does make a difference.
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In ANSI C, you can get away with passing 0 to a function expecting a pointer
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IF a prototype is visible at the call, because then the implicit cast will
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occur. If a prototype is *not* visible, then you're taking a chance.
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On some systems, you'll luck out, and on some, you won't.
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In pre-ANSI C, there are no prototypes, so you're taking a chance if you
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pass the integer 0 to a function expecting to see a pointer and hoping that
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the called function will get a null pointer.
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*** posted w/InfoXpress 1.1 ***
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-*-
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85473 6-FEB 19:11 Programmers Den
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RE: C question (Re: Msg 85459)
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From: COLORSYSTEMS To: ZOGSTER
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I think read() and write() are going to be part of the standard in C++,
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at any rate, most of the code I write depends on support from KWindows
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and is therefore not very portable to begin with. Top that with every
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system I've ever used a C compiler on HAD read() and write() type calls
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and they worked the same as they did here on OS-9.
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I figure if I want to port some of my code over to some OS which doesn't
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have read() and write(), well that's what conditional compilation is all
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about! <grin>
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------------------------------------
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Zack C Sessions
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ColorSystems
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"I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assimi ... OOOOHHH, DOUGHNUTS!"
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-*-
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85487 6-FEB 22:58 Programmers Den
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RE: C question (Re: Msg 85470)
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From: JEJONES To: CHYDE
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> Since you want portablity you'll find that all the stdlib I/O functions
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> use buffered I/O and that OS9's fix setbuf() is not available for other
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> OS's.
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setbuf(), along with the now-preferable setvbuf(), are part of ANSI/ISO
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standard C, and while I don't have a copy of the standard at hand, I
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think it does say that if you hand setbuf() a null pointer constant for
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the buffer pointer, it will make the stream an unbuffered stream.
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Even so, your suggestion of hiding non-portable functions is good practice
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in any case.
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*** posted w/InfoXpress 1.1 ***
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-*-
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85495 7-FEB 19:36 Programmers Den
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RE: C question (Re: Msg 85445)
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From: JOHNREED To: ZOGSTER
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>
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> Thanks for the warning. I assume you are talking about
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> input via gets() not scanf() right? I will check into
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> it, and come up with a solution, maybe my own input
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> routine using just putchar() and getchar()! I can't
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> have buffered input in hot key situations it just doesn't
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> work.
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>
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> Jim
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>
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Right. For "hot key" responses, your program would
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have a routine that checks the input and (hopefully)
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does something smart if the input char doesn't match
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what is expected. My problems came from trying to
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port some messydos "C" stuff to the MM/1 and duplicate
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the "getch()" and "getche()" functions. There are
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lots of ways to do it -- all of them have little snags
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that have to be dealt with.
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John R. Wainwright
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<<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>
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*********** InfoXpress ************
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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-*-
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85454 5-FEB 23:23 General Information
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RE: DISTO Products running Low. (Re: Msg 85446)
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From: COCOKIWI To: DENNYWRIGHT
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the 2 meg replaces the 512k board and a board is placed over the 68b09
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that does the decoding..allowing 2 meg to be run....
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the 4 in one is a board that goes into the SC-II that gives one a RTC
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a Serial/Par port,and a SCSI interface for Hard drive use!
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Dennis
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-*-
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85455 5-FEB 23:26 General Information
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RE: error 240 (Re: Msg 85450)
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From: COCOKIWI To: DENNYWRIGHT
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sounds like the drive crashed...data from RIBBS pob screwed the hard drive data!
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sounds like it! the only fix is to reformat the hard drive!one reason to BACKUP
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data!<grin>....
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Dennis
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-*-
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85467 6-FEB 16:18 General Information
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RE: error 240 (Re: Msg 85455)
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From: DENNYWRIGHT To: COCOKIWI
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Thanks He was afraid of that. He has a partial backup. I think he will only
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lose about 2 megs worth of data that hadn't been backed up yet. Live and learn!
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-*-
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85482 6-FEB 20:51 General Information
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RE: error 240 (Re: Msg 85467)
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From: COCOKIWI To: DENNYWRIGHT
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you is Velcome!<grin>one lives and learns!
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Dennis
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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-*-
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85457 6-FEB 06:36 General Information
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RE: Printer (Re: Msg 85216)
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From: WTHOMPSON To: THETAURUS
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I have a Panasonic 2123 w/color kit and I have been VERY happy with it.
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You really can't go wrong with the 2124! As far as getting power for the
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s-p converter, the Panasonic does not have the voltage on pin 18. You
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will need an external power source for the Blue Strekak.
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Or, if you are adventurous (sp?), you could open up the new printer,
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find 5v somewhere inside and run it to pin 18.
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FYI if you do go with the color kit, the color screen dumps written
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for the Star Rainbow printers works GREAT with the Panasonic color printers
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Good Luck,
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Wayne
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-*-
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85505 7-FEB 22:48 General Information
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RE: Printer (Re: Msg 85457)
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From: THETAURUS To: WTHOMPSON (NR)
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>>I have a Panasonic 2123 w/color kit and I have been VERY happy
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with it. You really can't go wrong with the 2124!
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Do you know the difference between the 2123 and 2124? I think I
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remember reading about the differences between them in some panasonic
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promo stuff, tho it might have been very minor. I can't wait till I
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have the money to spend on it! While I don't see myself needing color
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anytime in the near future, having the option will be nice.
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>>You will need an external power source for the Blue Streak.
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D*mn. I know it is probably pretty simple, but my lack of
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experience with that will make it hard for me. I know that with a Coco
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3, Multipack, 20 meg Hd,and Fd-502 PS, I will have plenty to draw
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from. It is just a matter of finding the right parts, and sending it to
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the right place.
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>>Or, if you are adventurous, you could open up the new printer,
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find ...
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Yeah, that would probably be the easiest way actually, but I
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would hate to void the warrantee, and even more, would hate to blow up
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the printer!<grin>
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Thanks for the info!
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>Chris<
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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-*-
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85458 6-FEB 07:07 OSK Applications
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RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85336)
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From: WTHOMPSON To: LARRYOLSON (NR)
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I have been able to play .IFF files on my coco using the PLAY command.
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I got them from the Amiga sig here on delphi. So I just told play that
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they were Amiga sound file and they worked! Those .IFF files are really
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big (for a coco) but I guess they are stereo and have twice the data.
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They are very good quality wise and sound a lot better that stuff
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digitized on the coco. I havve all my .IFF files with the 1st 2 bytes
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modified to tell play the type and speed.
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Wayne
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-*-
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85460 6-FEB 07:38 General Information
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RE: Wish list (latest) (Re: Msg 85428)
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From: WTHOMPSON To: BANANAMAN
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Andy,
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I just got an account set up for internet access at work. Try sending
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me a message at waynet@lobby.ti.com. Also, do you know the address
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of the person I need to email to to get on the coco list? I'd also
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like to have the address for the os9 library (I think its cabrales
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or comething like that). I was playing around with ftp'ing some files
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the other night, I had one 112k file take a whopping .94 seconds
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to transfer! I think I am going to like the internet!
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Thanks,
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Wayne
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-*-
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85475 6-FEB 19:56 General Information
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RE: Wish list (latest) (Re: Msg 85460)
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From: JOEGERBER To: WTHOMPSON
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Wayne,
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Send internet mail to listserv@pucc.bitnet. Put as the body of the msg:
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SUB COCO <name>
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Note the use of capital letters--very important!
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Joe Gerber
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P.S. Make sure you check your mail almost every day...about 9 msgs get posted
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a day.
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-*-
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85493 7-FEB 19:15 General Information
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RE: Wish list (latest) (Re: Msg 85460)
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From: BANANAMAN To: WTHOMPSON
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Cool. We've got Internet at Lockheed, but you know defense contractors.
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If we use it for anything other than business purposes, We get a one way
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trip to the OUT door. :( I'm not sure about the CoCo list server. I
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subscribed to it for a while, but I got billed for the disk space those
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messages were using. It was like an extra $15, and I always deleted the
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messages after I read them. It kinda sucked.
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The archives I have are at cabrales.cs.wisc.edu which is moving to
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chestnut.cs.wisc.edu, wuarchive.wustl.edu, lucy.ifi.unibas.ch, and
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ftp.wustl.edu Have fun!
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--Andy
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-*-
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85499 7-FEB 21:34 General Information
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RE: Wish list (latest) (Re: Msg 85460)
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From: SCWEGERT To: WTHOMPSON
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> Also, do you know the address of the person I need to email to to get on
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> the coco list? I'd also
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To subscribe to the COCO LIST, send a message containing only the following
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line:
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SUBSCRIBE COCO your_real_name
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to listserv@pucc.princeton.edu
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You should get an acknowledgment back in a short time saying you have been
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added to the list.
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*- Steve -*
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-*-
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85503 7-FEB 22:24 General Information
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RE: Wish list (latest) (Re: Msg 85475)
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From: WTHOMPSON To: JOEGERBER (NR)
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Thanks for the help!
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Wayne
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-*-
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85504 7-FEB 22:29 General Information
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RE: Wish list (latest) (Re: Msg 85493)
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From: WTHOMPSON To: BANANAMAN
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Thats why I'M glad I'M in the semiconductor group at TI. 700 more people
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were laid off last week in DSEG (Defense group). Kinda strange, one part of
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thecompany has to get rid of people and the other (my group, thankfully)
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can't hire 'm fast enough!
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Anyway, thanks for the info!
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Wayne
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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-*-
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85461 6-FEB 08:08 General Information
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RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85337)
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From: CBJ To: PAGAN
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In the MS-Dog world it is common to buy machines that have the DOS installed
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as well a Windows and a menuing program that will allow you the options of
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running Windows or the various MS-Dog programs that may have been bundled
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with the machine. There is also the option of going to the MS-Shell program
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and using the mouse that is invariably included with the machine. If you
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don't ever want to see a command line prompt or learn anything about the DOS
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it is very easy and you don't have to be limited to just a few programs that
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are included either. You can launch the install programs from Windows and
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just allow the program to set itself up with answering a few simple questions
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such as does this screen come up in color? This is what OS-9 has been unable
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to provide for the users. It isn't a fault of the Operating system nor is it
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impossible for us to achieve. It just takes work and the willingness to do it
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that way. I for one would love to be able to install new programs without
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always having to create new directories and typing a lot of commands.
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carl
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l
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-*-
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85488 6-FEB 23:38 General Information
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RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85324)
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From: TOMFANN To: DSRTFOX
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No, I had never even owned a disk drive before I bought OS9!!! Really! I
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went straight from the CCR-81 (cassette recorder) to OS9 Level Two. I guess
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we just disagree. The only real problems I had were omissions in the manual,
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such as the fact that having the execute attribute turned off will give you
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a "pathname not found" error, or that COPY will not work with single-sided
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disks and double-sided disks together in the same drive (i.e., if you have
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only one drive). But all in all, I think the OS9 LII manuals are as well
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written as any docs I have used, and better than most. OS9 isn't hard, there
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is just a lot to it.
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..Tom Fann
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-*-
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85489 6-FEB 23:56 General Information
|
||
RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85337)
|
||
From: TOMFANN To: PAGAN
|
||
|
||
I don't think we disagree at all - we are saying the same thing. Of course
|
||
OS9 can be set up easy to use, but someone has to do that, and in order to do
|
||
that, one must have some understanding of the operating system. In the CoCo
|
||
world, the end user (the purchaser of the software) is the one who has to know
|
||
his way around OS9. The reason why OS9 got its reputation is simple. Under
|
||
RS-DOS, if you buy, say, CoCoMax 3, to get it up and running all you have to
|
||
do is put the disk in the drive and type "Run CM3". Anyone can do that. But
|
||
to get MVCanvas up and running, you must "install" the program and that
|
||
demands a certain amount of know-how. A lot of people just didn't want to go
|
||
to that much trouble, which is too bad.
|
||
|
||
I played with Windows for the first time today on my wife's Compac 486 in her
|
||
office. You can say what you want about Multi-Vue, but I will take it any
|
||
day over Windows running on the fastest PC around.
|
||
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
End of Thread.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85462 6-FEB 09:12 System Modules (6809)
|
||
Nitro
|
||
From: WTHOMPSON To: WESGALE
|
||
|
||
Wes,
|
||
I am haveing problems with getting no-drivers to work with Nitro.
|
||
At first, the SC2 drivers I had were not recognized by Nitro. Then
|
||
a friend in my coco club let me try out his SC2 drivers. They are
|
||
differnt from the ones I had AND Nitro could patch them. They even
|
||
worked when I put them in a boot. But then a problem reared its ugly
|
||
head. After a while I would get an
|
||
202 - Interrupt Polling Table Full
|
||
I did some investigating and found that after I booted up with the
|
||
cc3disk.slp (nv1.15) the would occour after the floppy had been
|
||
accessed 11 times. Reboot and the same thing, 11 time and error 202.
|
||
I even tried different versions of the nitro'd cc3disk.slp
|
||
(nv1.00, nv1.107, and nv1.115) even the stock cc3disk.slp in the
|
||
nitro boot had the same error. I have a coco3 512k, newer MPI(coco3
|
||
upgrade), disto SC2 (slot 4), B&B cocoxt(slot3), Tandy delux rs-232 pak
|
||
(slot1). I have an HHD63B09E in the coco with nitro v1.15/1.16.
|
||
Your help would be greatly appreciated!
|
||
Thanks,
|
||
Wayne
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85463 6-FEB 09:23 System Modules (6809)
|
||
RE: Nitro (Re: Msg 85462)
|
||
From: BOISY To: WTHOMPSON
|
||
|
||
To fix your Error 202 problem, try inizing /d0 before using it (put
|
||
this in your startup file) (e.g. iniz /d0)
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85465 6-FEB 09:34 System Modules (6809)
|
||
RE: Nitro (Re: Msg 85463)
|
||
From: WTHOMPSON To: BOISY
|
||
|
||
That fixed me up! Thanks for the help!!!
|
||
Thanks,
|
||
Wayne
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85501 7-FEB 21:48 System Modules (6809)
|
||
RE: Nitro (Re: Msg 85462)
|
||
From: NEALSTEWARD To: WTHOMPSON
|
||
|
||
I had similar problems with an ealier release of B&B's Powerboost. I
|
||
received an upgraded, but haven't checked out whether the 202's are
|
||
gone. If not, I'll try Boisy's fix.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
End of Thread.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85464 6-FEB 09:25 System Modules (6809)
|
||
iniz /d0
|
||
From: WTHOMPSON To: BOISY
|
||
|
||
I can't remember how to do what you did but I will try the iniz /d0 you
|
||
suggest.
|
||
Thanks,
|
||
Wayne
|
||
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85466 6-FEB 09:36 General Information
|
||
Hard drive
|
||
From: PLEESON To: ALL
|
||
|
||
To the guy having the problem with the hard drive. Sorry I don't remember who
|
||
He could not get access because ribbs had crashed. You may want to try
|
||
something
|
||
else before you reformat. Make a new boot disk with HD and dd still /d0. You
|
||
should
|
||
then be able to booot the coco and be able to check the hard drive with a
|
||
dir /hd command. You can then replace the shell and some of the modules that
|
||
are either missing or corupted. Hope this helps.
|
||
|
||
Philip Leeson
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85472 6-FEB 19:05 General Information
|
||
RE: Hard drive (Re: Msg 85466)
|
||
From: DENNYWRIGHT To: PLEESON (NR)
|
||
|
||
Thanks that was a friend of mine. I will pass the info along and see what
|
||
happens.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
End of Thread.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85468 6-FEB 16:39 General Information
|
||
Hard Drives
|
||
From: JRUPPEL To: ALL
|
||
|
||
I, too am looking for a Hard Drive host. If anyone has a KenTon or B&B adaptor
|
||
they would like to part with, or have knowledge of how to reach either of these
|
||
manufacturers, I would appreciate it.
|
||
John
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85481 6-FEB 20:27 General Information
|
||
RE: Hard Drives (Re: Msg 85468)
|
||
From: BOISY To: JRUPPEL
|
||
|
||
Ken-Ton's address is:
|
||
|
||
187 Green Acres oad
|
||
Tonawanda, NY 14150
|
||
|
||
Phone: 716-837-9168
|
||
|
||
I've been using a Ken-Ton SCSI controller for almost 4 years, and it
|
||
has worked flawlessly. I *HIGHLY* recommend it to anyone considering
|
||
a SCSI hard drive system.
|
||
|
||
Good luck.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85485 6-FEB 22:21 General Information
|
||
RE: Hard Drives (Re: Msg 85481)
|
||
From: JRUPPEL To: BOISY
|
||
|
||
Thanks, Boisy! And I'm sure I'm notthe only one! I'll get ahold ofhtem tomorrow!
|
||
|
||
John
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85494 7-FEB 19:17 General Information
|
||
RE: Hard Drives (Re: Msg 85481)
|
||
From: DENNYWRIGHT To: BOISY
|
||
|
||
I have a friend who has a 75 meg Fujitsu MFM and a Kenton interface and an
|
||
Adaptec 4000A controller.
|
||
The problem is RiBBS crashed on him and now when he tries to acess the drive he
|
||
gets error 240 in OS9 and IO Error in RSDOS. The light on the controller
|
||
flickers
|
||
but nothing happens in rsdos. The light just keeps flickering and the drive
|
||
sounds
|
||
like it is stepping. In OS9 the dirve light comes on for a second then he
|
||
gets
|
||
error #240 -unit error. Is there a way to recover what is on the drive or will
|
||
the
|
||
drive need to be reformatted? But attempts to reformat have ended in error 240
|
||
or IO error depending on if it's in RSDOS or OS9.
|
||
WW Thank you again for the CC3Disk drivers for his Super Controller II. He said
|
||
they are working fine! Rather they were working fine!
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85497 7-FEB 20:36 General Information
|
||
RE: Hard Drives (Re: Msg 85494)
|
||
From: BOISY To: DENNYWRIGHT (NR)
|
||
|
||
Anytime I've encountered Error #240 with the Ken-Ton, it meant that
|
||
the sectors being accessed on the hard drive are physically damaged.
|
||
I had a ST157N which had this same problem as you describe. My problem
|
||
was that I was running it under a less than ample power supply.
|
||
|
||
It sounds as though your friend's drive sectors (at least the first
|
||
few) are trashed. I'd suggest he try formatting it on an OSK box
|
||
or some other computer.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85506 7-FEB 22:48 General Information
|
||
RE: Hard Drives (Re: Msg 85468)
|
||
From: THETAURUS To: JRUPPEL (NR)
|
||
|
||
>>If anyone has a KenTon or B&B adaptor they would like to part
|
||
with, or have knowledge of how to reach either of these manufacturers,
|
||
I would appreciate it.
|
||
|
||
Well I own a secondhand B&B Coco-xt Rtc which is great<got it
|
||
used with a whole bunch of stuff>, so I don't think you could go
|
||
wrong with, but getting in touch with Chris to get one in the first
|
||
place might prove tricky<G>. The number to Burke and Burke is (206)
|
||
432-1814. That's the easy part. After reading the adventures of some
|
||
of the others here, the hard part will most likely be actually getting
|
||
a hold of him, but it can't hurt to try. Who knows, he may finally get
|
||
a break and be able to get back to you :-)
|
||
I can't remember the number to Ken-Ton, but someone here will
|
||
have it. From what I hear it is a GREAT system, and my next HD system
|
||
for the Coco will most likely be Ken-Ton, IF I get another.
|
||
>Chris<
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
End of Thread.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85474 6-FEB 19:55 General Information
|
||
RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 85442)
|
||
From: DSRTFOX To: ZOGSTER
|
||
|
||
Well Jim, will get you on the list and send you a copy of the next issue out,
|
||
which will be 15 March.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85477 6-FEB 20:02 General Information
|
||
RE: B&B (Re: Msg 85432)
|
||
From: DSRTFOX To: CLTUCKER (NR)
|
||
|
||
I plan on running a hard drive issue of 68 micros, but will be August or
|
||
September. I intend to have a very detailed coverage of the subject with
|
||
several articles and set-ups, including a B&B and SCSI (Ken-ton and Disto).
|
||
If you have a Disto Super Controller with the mini-buss, get a Disto HDII or
|
||
4-n-1 board hard drive controller. If you go SCSI, you can get almost any of
|
||
the new SCSI drives IF you use Matt Thompson's drivers here on delphi or the
|
||
B&B 512 byte sector drive
|
||
r. The drawback is you can't use the HD for DECB with the 512 byte drivers. The
|
||
Ken-ton system can be accessed yr
|
||
<EFBFBD><EFBFBD>ѕ<EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>ѽ<EFBFBD>"ɕ<><C995><EFBFBD><EFBFBD><EFBFBD>jHIHH<48>ʒj2UJLN09 General Information
|
||
RE: B&B (Re: Msg 85477)
|
||
From: DENNYWRIGHT To: DSRTFOX
|
||
|
||
Ton interface and a Adaptec 4000A controller running a 75 meg Fujitsu MFM drive.
|
||
|
||
The problem is Ribbs crashed on him and now he gets error 240 when trying to
|
||
access the hard drive. He tries to load RGG-DOS but the drive light flickers
|
||
but nothing happens and the light keeps flickering. Attempts at formatting in
|
||
RSDOS yeild an IO Error
|
||
and attempts at formatting in OS9 yield error 240. Do you know how he could get
|
||
the drive back up with or without losing the 6 or 7 megs that are on it already?
|
||
|
||
Thanks
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85496 7-FEB 20:02 General Information
|
||
RE: B&B (Re: Msg 85492)
|
||
From: DSRTFOX To: DENNYWRIGHT (NR)
|
||
|
||
About the only thing I can think of is boot from a floppy with the hard drive
|
||
descriptors in place (but not as /dd) and then try to read the hard drive. If
|
||
you can't read it, I'm afraid you're stuck! But you mentioned attempts to
|
||
reformat were giving errors also... just OS-9 format or a low-level format?
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
End of Thread.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85478 6-FEB 20:04 General Information
|
||
RE: Puppo ROM (Re: Msg 85430)
|
||
From: DSRTFOX To: JMOORFOOT
|
||
|
||
John, if Marty can't help you, I'll send the ROM code also.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85479 6-FEB 20:10 General Information
|
||
System IV/V Owners
|
||
From: DSRTFOX To: ALL
|
||
|
||
I need someone using a System IV and/or a System V to write a detailed review
|
||
of the computer(s). Contact me if you are willing to do a little writing! You
|
||
will also be used for software reviews in the future if you wish.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85480 6-FEB 20:13 General Information
|
||
Hard Drives
|
||
From: DSRTFOX To: ALL
|
||
|
||
There has been a lot of traffic recently about hard drives on the CoCo. I
|
||
need someone with experience setting up a B&B and a Ken-Ton system to write
|
||
articles describing the procedure and any problems/suggestions for new
|
||
users. Also interested in knowing if you use OS-9 only or both OS-9 and DECB
|
||
on the hard drive. Planning the issue for Aug (anniversary) or Sep, but if
|
||
Also interested in any general hard drive hints/tips/suggestions concerning
|
||
OS-9 or DECB, and the OSK machines.
|
||
I can get everything put together before then, will go out earlier.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85483 6-FEB 21:06 Telecom (6809)
|
||
RE: Mac/OS9 Cable (Re: Msg 85422)
|
||
From: JANG To: MARTYGOODMAN (NR)
|
||
|
||
Ah, Thanks Marty..... I knew you'd come through...
|
||
now and it does
|
||
have the 8 pin DIN plug.
|
||
I'll give it a try, and let you know how it works....
|
||
|
||
Angus (JANG)
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85484 6-FEB 21:06 General Information
|
||
Dlite202.<ibm>
|
||
From: COCOKIWI To: ALL
|
||
|
||
I have got DLite202 from the <database><PC>..I have problems with it accessing
|
||
Tymnet! I think it is the ID chr...the old 7n1 "A" the 8N1 is "O" problem is
|
||
it HANGS on the ID...and I can see no way of modifying it!It did get through
|
||
once!......<grin>...
|
||
Dennis
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85486 6-FEB 22:38 General Information
|
||
Emulator Support
|
||
From: JES68K To: ALL
|
||
|
||
To all those wishing to use the CoCo2 Emulator program:
|
||
|
||
Recently a new SIG message base and file area was added to ACS BBS in
|
||
Atlanta ...... known as the EMULATOR SIG - it will support the use of
|
||
the CoCo2 Emulator program. I am currently the SigOP for this special
|
||
interest group. We are providing the area to encourage the use of
|
||
CoCo software on PC clone systems and to aid those wishing to do so
|
||
to allow all users to know the full capability of this program.
|
||
|
||
Files uploaded to this area will utilize the .DSK and .PAK file formats
|
||
for direct use with the Emulator program. All files must be PD and not
|
||
violate any copyright laws. This is an opportunity for original .PAK
|
||
games to be created.
|
||
|
||
I expect the greatest help will be from the .DSK files and .HLP text
|
||
files which will be uploaded, plus the message base discussions of any
|
||
problems/solutions, etc.
|
||
|
||
ACS BBS phone is (404)636-2991, we are now online with a new 1Gig hard
|
||
drive supporting CoCo, OS9/6809, OSK, OS9000, and now COCO2 Emulator!
|
||
|
||
=== Jesse ===
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85490 7-FEB 00:08 OSK Applications
|
||
RE: OPutBlk () (Re: Msg 85436)
|
||
From: JOELHEGBERG To: MREGC
|
||
|
||
|
||
Eric,
|
||
|
||
Wow, that's kinda annoying that it doesn't work on a 320 screen. There
|
||
seem to be a few things that don't work perfectly on those screens. You could
|
||
still write your own function, but it would be a little complex. How many
|
||
icons does your program need, anyway?? :)
|
||
|
||
-- Joel.
|
||
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85491 7-FEB 02:52 OSK Applications
|
||
RE: OPutBlk () (Re: Msg 85490)
|
||
From: MREGC To: JOELHEGBERG
|
||
|
||
Joel,
|
||
|
||
> You could still write your own function, but it would be a little complex.
|
||
|
||
Maybe, but first I'll spend several months to a year trying to find
|
||
another way in which I won't have to do the work! :)
|
||
|
||
...Eric...
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
End of Thread.
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85500 7-FEB 21:40 General Information
|
||
268'm
|
||
From: NEALSTEWARD To: DSRTFOX (NR)
|
||
|
||
February 1 issue arrived today in Western New York. How close is that
|
||
to your estimate wuth the bulk mailing? Looks like another great issue,
|
||
so I have to go... read!
|
||
Later,
|
||
Neal Steward
|
||
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85502 7-FEB 21:55 General Information
|
||
No 40 column screen
|
||
From: NEALSTEWARD To: MARTYGOODMAN (NR)
|
||
|
||
I don't know if you've come across this one... I haven't been able to
|
||
open a type 1 window, the system just crashes. I thought it might be
|
||
a problem with the patched grfdrv for Disto 2 meg upgrade. Recently,
|
||
I discover under DECB that when I type WIDTH 40, the system goes
|
||
south as well. I don't remember this occuring when I first installed
|
||
the 2 megs. Any thoughts?
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85507 7-FEB 23:25 General Information
|
||
SandV BBS hardware/software changeover
|
||
From: MITHELEN To: ALL
|
||
|
||
Welp... I finally committed my Sun 3/160 to running the SandV BBS this
|
||
weekend... It is now on line, but, not yet open to users, as I still have some
|
||
"bugs/quirks" to work out.... Please note, that all old user accounts have been
|
||
deleted, so, if you were coresponding with someone on the "old" SandV, you
|
||
won't be able to send Internet Mail to them until they apply for an account
|
||
again (although, old users that were "contributing" users will have their
|
||
account restored by the end of the week)
|
||
|
||
Also, please note, that I will no longer be "sysop@sandv.chi.il.us", instead I
|
||
will be using "mithelen@sandv.chi.il.us" as my primary account on SandV.
|
||
--
|
||
Paul Jerkatis - SandV BBS (708)352-0948: Chicago Area OS-9 Users Group
|
||
UUCP: amiserv.xnet.com!vpnet!sandv!mithelen ...or... mithelen@sandv.chi.il.us
|
||
Internet: MITHELEN@Delphi.com
|
||
|
||
"Did you ever notice how cheep 99% of all BBS users are?" - Unknown
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
85508 7-FEB 23:32 General Information
|
||
Message Formatting...
|
||
From: MITHELEN To: ALL
|
||
|
||
Has anyone else noticed that Delphi is no longer "formatting" messages so that
|
||
they fill the width of the screen? I wonder why it was changed?
|
||
--
|
||
Paul
|
||
|
||
-*-
|
||
|
||
|
||
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