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#: 14132 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Jan-92 20:51:21
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Sb: #14123-#MM/1 I/O Board
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Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
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Jim,
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I received my MM/1 last August. No, I didn't receive the update disks with
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the I/O board. I have downloaded newer drivers from the Ocean BBS and the
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latest driver update from dl12 here. I noticed the mask number on the scsi chip
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is 08. I was able to get the Seagate formatted with the new drivers from the
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Ocean BBS and the hard drive is pretty fast (seems to be about as fast as the
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IDE drive on my 386). I talked to Paul today and he said the update disks
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should be going out soon. I think he said Mark G. had the master disks now. He
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also said he received the Quantum drives today and just finished printing a new
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catalog.
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I've put about 4 megs on the hard drive (a ST138) and tried FHL's hard disk
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backup program fbu. Using the command line: fbu -$=dir-ur -b=1024k -d=/d1 itt
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took
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6 minutes and 28 seconds to complete the backup to previously formatted
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diskks. And this is using a relatively slow hard drive and without the newest
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scsi drivers. All in all, not too bad.
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Got ot go play some more. Type at you later.
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Ernie.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 14155 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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02-Feb-92 10:21:54
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Sb: #14132-MM/1 I/O Board
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117
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You're one up on me, Ernie.
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The MM/1 arrived early last week (minus the I/O board at my request) and I
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quick ordered a Connor 120 meg HD, 2 megs of memory and a keyboard. All that
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stuff showed up by this past Friday.
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Friday evening Mark Griffith and I put the thing together (well ..... I did
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watch!) and it works.
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A couple of problems did crop up. The keyboard I ordered from Microlab in MI
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appears to be DOA. I'll check it out when I get back to the office. Otherwise,
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it's RMA-city for that puppy.
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Like many others, I'm anxiously awaiting my I/O board. From first impressions,
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it sure looks as if it will be worth the wait.
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Steve
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#: 14134 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Jan-92 21:16:14
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Sb: #14117-#Mshell Discount?
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)
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Lint? The only lint for OS-9 that I know of is a port of Gimpel's Generic
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Lint, and I thought someone other than Microware sold it.
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Alas, there is sort of a Catch 22 operating--more folks would buy it if it cost
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less. Gee, it would cost less if more people bought it. If I knew how to
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overcome the impasse, I'd probably be a lot richer.
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(Opinions expressed here are solely those of the poster.)
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 14138 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Jan-92 22:30:09
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Sb: #14134-Mshell Discount?
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Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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lint--> it was a lint type of program... a C Source Debugger that Microware is
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offering for $850.
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Shucks, if they were asking $400 for it, I'd consider it....but I can do my own
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debugging of C routines, and a lot of it, for $850 (grin)
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jim
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#: 14137 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Jan-92 22:13:35
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Sb: #14111-Mshell Discount?
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565
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Have you looked at the TOP shell. I will soon be in a position to support it
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properly, fix bugs, etc. - Carl
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#: 14135 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Jan-92 21:22:38
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Sb: #14127-arrays in 'C'
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X)
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It's true for the 680x0, x < 2 or == 7. The reason is that OS-9 wants to use
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position-independent and re-entrant code, and also that the compiler can't look
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into the future and tell how much data space will be linked together to make a
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finished program. It therefore generates code presuming that the 68K base plus
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signed 16-bit offset will suffice to access a variable by name, unless you use
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the "remote" storage class, which will cause it to use a rather longer (but
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sufficient to access anything anywhere) code sequence to get to the variable.
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(The 680x0, x >= 2 and x != 7, have addressing modes that avoid the limitation,
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so it's not as big a deal for those processors, though there is a definite code
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savings for the 16-bit offset vs. 32-bit offset addressing modes, of course!)
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#: 14136 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Jan-92 21:30:34
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Sb: #New to OS9,Need Power
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Fm: JAMES LONG 70043,2203
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To: ALL
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Not Being an avid os9 user (IBM or Msdos 5 is much friendlier, in my opinion) I
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am forced to put up with os9 innability to do much of anything from an OS
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standpoint. Does anyone Know where I can find such utilities as: TREE (or
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something like it), a NORTON COMMANDER like util, WHEREIS or FILEFIND, and
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lastly, is there any way I can make the prompt show the current directory (yes,
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like DOS) ? Im running OS9 2.2 68k from Micoware. How about a disk fix program
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that marks bad sectors out of the allocation table or am I dreaming ?
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I just read about MSHELL. What is that ? Being new to os9 is a pain. My system
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at home (286) cranks and thats what I want to do with this box but Im a little
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short on utilities. Anyone have a few suggestions?
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Thanks,
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James.
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There are 3 Replies.
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#: 14141 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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31-Jan-92 11:43:58
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Sb: #14136-New to OS9,Need Power
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: JAMES LONG 70043,2203
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James -
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ANY time you step into a new environment it appears to be hostile and barren...
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this is mostly a) extreme familiarity with your previous environment and b)
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lack of knowledge about where to get the utils & tools for the new environment.
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With the possible exception of MS-DOS's new shell, I think most folks would
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find bare bones DOS a pretty ugly option as well.
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Most of my background with OS9 was with the 6809 version, so that may be of
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limited use to you. The good news is that most folks in the os9 domain post
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SOURCES in their AR files (our equivalent of .ZIP files - you'll need AR68.BIN
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to bust them up), and for the most part these sources will port fairly easily
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to 68K boxes.
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On a file finder, look at the FILES.AR source in DL9. Should port to OSK
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without too much of a problem. Regarding the other stuff, perhaps some of the
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more active 68K folks will chime in.
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Pete
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#: 14142 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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31-Jan-92 16:40:52
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Sb: #14136-New to OS9,Need Power
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: JAMES LONG 70043,2203
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James,
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Having introduced many MS-DOS users to OS9, I think I can appreciate
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your dilemma. When people go from 'half an operating system' to an
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operating system as powerful as OS9, they are often quite bewildered.
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I think you'll find that the people on this forumn are friendly and
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helpful but they do expect you to do some of your own homework. I suggest
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you first study the OSK manual particularly those sections pertaining to
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the shell and format. Then go through library 12 and pull the TOP index.
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Many of the utilities you may need are there - no charge - PD stuff and
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pretty good.
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Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
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#: 14146 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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01-Feb-92 09:21:39
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Sb: #14136-New to OS9,Need Power
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Fm: Bud Hamblen 72466,256
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To: JAMES LONG 70043,2203
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Want to find a filename anywhere on your disk?
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type: dir -arsu /dd ! grep <filename>
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Want to list all your directories?
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type: dir -n /dd
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If you want to look at a disk other than your default disk, just
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type the disk name instead of /dd.
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Want to see what your data directory is?
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type: pd
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The stock shell won't prompt you with the current data path, but
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the optional MSHELL (big bucks from Microware) might.
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I'm not sure about your disk checker program.
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I have to use MSDOS at work (we run PS/2's) and think OS-9 is rather
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easier to deal with.
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bud
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#: 14139 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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31-Jan-92 06:33:05
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Sb: Floppy Driver
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: All
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To All MM/1 Owners:
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I put the wrong floppy driver module in the MM/1 Update archives. That driver
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will not work with PCF. I have uploaded a new driver by itself in Library 12.
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As soon as it is enabled, please download it.
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Sorry for any problems my mistake may have caused.
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Mark
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#: 14140 S1/General Interest
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31-Jan-92 10:45:20
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Sb: Rules to LIVE by...
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: All
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10 commandments for Technicians
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~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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1. Beware the lightning that lurketh in the undischarged capacitor,
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lest it cause thee to bounce upon thy buttocks in a most
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un-technicianlike manner.
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2. Cause thou the switch that supplieth large quantities of juice to
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be opened and thus tagged, that thy days in this Earthly vale of
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tears be long.
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3. Prove to thyself that all circuits that radiateth and upon which
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thou toil are grounded and thusly tagged lest they lift thee unto
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radio heaven.
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4. Tarry thou not amongst those fools that engageth in intentional
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shocks, for they are surely non-believers and are not longeth for
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this world.
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5. Take care that thou useth the proper method when thou taketh the
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measure of a high voltage circuit, lest thou incinerate both
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thyself and thy meter.
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6. Take care thou tampereth not with interlocks and safety devices,
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for this incurreth the wrath of thy supervisor and bringeth the
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fury of the safety inspector upon thy head and about thyhshoulders.
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7. Toil not thou on energized equipment, for if thou so doest, thy
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fellow workers will surely buy beers for thy survivors and console
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them otherwise.
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8. Service thou equipment not alone, for electrical cooking is a
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slothful process and thy mind will sizzle in thine own juices for
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hours upon a hot circuit before thy maker sees fit to end thy
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misery.
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9. Trifle thou nit with radioactive tubes and substances lest thou
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commenceth to glow in the dark liketh a lightning bug and thy spouse
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hath no further use for thee except for thy wages.
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10. Causeth thou to be tagged all modifications made by thee upon equipment
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lest thy successor teareth out hair by the roots and goeth slowly mad in
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an attempt to decide what manner of creature madeth a nest in
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the wiring of such equipment.
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#: 14143 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jan-92 20:14:22
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Sb: #OS-9 Utilities
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Fm: MARK LITTLE 70761,3147
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To: SYSOP (X)
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I have OS-9 L I on a CoCo2, and OS-9 L II on a CoCo3. I would like to know if
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there is in the libraries the following files:
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1. C compiler files to use the RadioShack C compiler on L II
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2. A TSMON driver for L II that uses /T2 & /M2 slots
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3. A TS-WORD compatible spell checker utility
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4. Also, which OS-9 terminal program do you suggest over this DESKMATE?
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Thanks, Mark Little
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 14144 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Feb-92 07:27:59
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Sb: #14143-OS-9 Utilities
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: MARK LITTLE 70761,3147 (X)
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Mark -
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1. There are several add-on files for the C compiler in DL3. You don't need to
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do anything to get the compiler to work under LII - it does already.
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2. Scan dl7 for keyword *MON and see what they have (they have a few of them).
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3. The UGLIB 'spell' utility works just like the UNIX spell, and can be used
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with any textfiles.
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4. For CIS use, grab STERM??.AR in DL7. It supports CIS B protocol which will
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make dowloading from CIS a breeze. It also supports Xmodem.
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Pete
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#: 14149 S7/Telecommunications
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01-Feb-92 21:58:58
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Sb: #14116-OSK sterm bug
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 (X)
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Let me know if you don't find getopt.h and I'll mail it. I've heard that
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xmodem bus traps but don't use xmodem so haven't chased it. But I would
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appreciate it if you would let me (or Mark) know if you find the problem. -
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Carl
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#: 14151 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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02-Feb-92 00:29:58
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Sb: BASIC's INKEY
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Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156
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To: all
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Can anyone advise me on the use of INKEY in BASIC (on the 68000 that is)? The
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format as my manuals reads is INKEY(#<path>) ant that is just about the same as
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the FILSIZ command. WHen I try to run INKEY from path 0 (the keyboard) I
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invariably come up with an error 208. I can run it from another path such as a
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disk file but what would be the point? All I want to do is the same as the
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INKEY under BASIC09 or even old DECBasic. Was trying to write a quick and
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nasty DISPLAY command for my new TC70 but it looks as if I will really have to
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polish up my C if I cannot get BASIC's INKEY to work from the keyboard.
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Looking back I find I lie a bit - the battle with INKEY is more in the area of
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a key converter so I can read the output from the arrow keys. Then I want to do
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the dislay.
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#: 14152 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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02-Feb-92 01:52:58
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Sb: MM/1
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: all
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MM/1 for sale - includes the following :
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System unit w/1MB of RAM in 'baby' AT case (IMS)
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1 TEAC and 1 FUJITSU 3.5" 1.2M floppy drives
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1 QUANTUM LP105S SCSI drive (new, installed - waiting on I/O board)
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1 Monterey 101 key keyboard - your choice of 'click' or 'soft' styles
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1 Mouse Systems ergonomic Trackball (brand new in box)
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Complete set of Microware OS-9 v.2.4 manuals
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Signetics 68070 and VSC manuals
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All included IMS documentation and software - 'C', BASIC, Oddjob, etc.
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Current delivery position for I/O board and serial port(s)
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System has very LOW hours and delivery of I/O board will depend on when IMS
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ships to me. $1275 OBO
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Leave E-Mail - 'mail' instead of 'reply'ing to this message.
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...Jim
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/exit
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