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#: 11523 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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28-Jul-91 21:46:13
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Sb: #11519-#Bad drive, isn't!
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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John - thanks for the tips! I can't believe it took me so long to link the
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A/C with my disk problems... ah well, live and learn, eh? <grin>
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My life is infinitely easier now that I know the cause. thx - kev
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#: 11546 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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30-Jul-91 21:30:24
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Sb: #11523-#Bad drive, isn't!
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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Sometimes it just doesn't occur to me to look for things like that either. I
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once did three (3) trips to a customer's house trying to find out why his
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freezer kept thawing. Did every diagnostic test you can do on a freezer. As I
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was leaving the house on the last day, the ductomer turned off the basement
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light ........and I heard the freezer stop. AAAAaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgh.
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JohnW
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((that "ductomer" a couple lines back is a "customer" - I really oughta learn
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how to use the message editor))
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#: 11549 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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31-Jul-91 00:07:29
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Sb: #11546-#Bad drive, isn't!
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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GRIN. Great story! Sounds like those outside lights in National Lampoon's
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Christmas Vacation, eh? :-) kev
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#: 11555 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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31-Jul-91 19:07:08
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Sb: #11549-#Bad drive, isn't!
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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Missed that one, lemme guess, he hit the switch and turned off:
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a. the Stars
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b. a small town in New Jersey.
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am I close? ;) JohnW
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#: 11558 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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31-Jul-91 23:18:08
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Sb: #11555-Bad drive, isn't!
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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Close! Poor Chevy Chase had strung zillions of lights all over his house, and
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gathered his family together to watch them light up when he plugged two cords
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together. Naturally, nothing happened, and he looked like an idiot.
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So the family went inside while he kept plugging and unplugging... and his wife
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went into the storage room, where she turned on the room light (yep, that
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switch was the power source to Chevy's cords!!). So every time she went to
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that room, the lights worked for him... but when he called for everyone to come
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out and see, she of course first automatically turned off the storage room
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light (and his outside lights, of course).
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Pretty much just like your basement story! grin - kev
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#: 11524 S1/General Interest
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29-Jul-91 03:12:04
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Sb: #11513-line_junk
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Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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To: KENHEIST 71750,551 (X)
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Kenheist,
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You need to give CompuServe's Customer Service folks a call at (800) 848-8990.
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They're the only ones that can steer the network folks in the right direction
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if it is your local node (like it sounds like).
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Unfortunately, we can't report it for you...
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Wayne
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#: 11525 S7/Telecommunications
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29-Jul-91 08:04:11
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Sb: #11522-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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Erich,
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Since you're seeing a reaction with the chaange of baud rate ... how fast is
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your modem? When I gave you the value of 4 for th baud parameter, I made thhe
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assumption you have a 2400 baud modem attached. If you're running something
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slower, you'll need to adjust accordingly.
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1200 baud=3, 300 baud=1.
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Steve
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#: 11526 S7/Telecommunications
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29-Jul-91 13:43:44
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Sb: #11525-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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The modem is 2400 baud. I have also went into the manual to try to construct
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my own hex numbers, and I came up with type=00 and baud=04. Just what is that
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Modem Kill? Should I have adjusted for that? And it seems weird that I can
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log on to something but nothing works right from then on. I might try a slower
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baud rate in case, perhaps, sterm can't handle 2400 very well. I finally found
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some documentataion for the xcom9 you sent me some time ago so I'll soon give
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that a try (I was never able to do anything with that til now). But if I can
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get something to work right at 2400, is there a OS-9 term program like
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Mikeyterm or Ultimaterm available for download or purchase?
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#: 11536 S7/Telecommunications
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30-Jul-91 07:38:56
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Sb: #11526-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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Erich,
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Ok ... at 2400 baud, the value should be 4. Type at 0 is fine. The modem kill
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bit, when on, sends a signal back to the system when a drop in carrier is
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detected. This is used generaly with dial up systems.
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Ok ... by the book, now. Does the modem have any lights? What are lit when you
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bring up sterm? Specifically look for the HS lamp. Is it on (indicating high
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speed -- 2400 baud).
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Also, check your modem manual for the proper commands to reset the modem to
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it's factory defaults. AT&F is what does it for me (and most other Hayes
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compatable modems). Write that out to the modem's memory with AT&W and try
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dialing up again.
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Let's start here and see what happens.
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Steve
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#: 11543 S7/Telecommunications
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30-Jul-91 19:23:48
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Sb: #11536-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I do have status lights. They are HS, AA, CD, OH, RD, SD, TR, and MR. The HS
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light is on as I go into sterm and after it starts. I cannont use factory
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default since my CoCoPRO! RS-232 adapter needs DCD to be forced high. That is
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the only change from defaults that I keep in nonvolatile RAM; the manual states
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they use different defaults from usual. The only otherr thing I like to do is
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AT S11=50, and in Ulterm, I also add D to my initialization string. But the
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modem will not respond to sterm at all.
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#: 11552 S7/Telecommunications
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31-Jul-91 08:21:22
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Sb: #11543-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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Erich,
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The fact the HS lamp is lit tells me the modem is expecting high speed. The
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only other changes I would make for the time being (until we get this thing
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straightend out is: AT&C&D1.
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Is the TR lamp lit when you fire up sterm? Do the rx and tx lamp blink when you
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type blindly in sterm?
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What does the s11 register do? My Hayes has this one as 'reserved'.
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What brand of modem do you have?
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Does it work properly under RSDOS? ARe you using the pak or the bit banger
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under RSDOS?
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Steve
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#: 11574 S7/Telecommunications
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01-Aug-91 23:34:51
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Sb: #11552-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I don't recall about those lights; I'll post the answer after I try sterm again
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later today. I'll see about the &d1 too. The s11 register controls dialing
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speed. 50 is very fast dialing--about the fastest I can use with 100%
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reliability. Without it, dialing is as slow as my fingers (that is why I has
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asked about a voice call dialer in the COCO FOrum. My modem is the Supra
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SupraModem 2400 widely advertised in InCider/A+ for less than what I paid
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locally (sigh). The modem works fine under DECB. I use the bit banger for
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null modems (or connect 2 modems to each other) and I use my CoCoPRO! pak for
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all normal Ulterm, Mterm, RLETRM, and sterm usage (CIS, etc.)
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#: 11578 S7/Telecommunications
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02-Aug-91 07:07:09
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Sb: #11574-sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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All good info, Erich!
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I use a Supra myself ...with Sterm, and it does fine. The fact you can use the
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CoCoPRO pak with DECB tells me the hardware is ok. Looks like all we're left
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with is some fine tuning.
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Let us know about the lamps ...
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Steve
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#: 11579 S7/Telecommunications
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02-Aug-91 07:11:15
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Sb: #11574-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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One other thought, Erich:
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You have a proper driver and descritor for the CoCoPRO pak in your OS9 boot,
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jes? (Generally /t2 and ACIAPAK).
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Steve
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#: 11580 S7/Telecommunications
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02-Aug-91 09:06:28
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Sb: #11579-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I do have /t2 and ACIAPAK there. I now know exactly what's in my OS9Boot
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thanks to EZGen 1.08.
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#: 11595 S7/Telecommunications
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03-Aug-91 09:07:59
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Sb: #11580-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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Ok ... drivers and descriptors are in place. What do the lamps do when you type
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on the keyboard under sterm?
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#: 11608 S7/Telecommunications
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03-Aug-91 23:57:19
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Sb: #11595-#sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I'll have to try to look while typing very fast. Even under Ulterm and Mterm I
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still can't see activity.
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#: 11612 S7/Telecommunications
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04-Aug-91 09:21:48
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Sb: #11608-sterm 1.2 w/o modem pak
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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Let the key repeat handle the fast typing for you. Just sit on a key and watch
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what happens to the lamps.
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Steve
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#: 11527 S1/General Interest
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29-Jul-91 13:53:05
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Sb: #Go to 6mS or Not Go?
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: ALL
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I am in the process of trying to create a new system disk (still (g)). As I
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have the patches printed in The Rainbow Guide to OS-9 Level II for making d0
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run at 6mS, I was wondering whether I should. I have heard that running the
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drive faster puts a lot of extra wear on it, can be unreliable (though I have
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never had a problem under DECB on the occasions I've done it), and there are
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problems with trying to boot OS-9 with a 6mS descriptor in the boot file
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(sudden change of speed???). So is this really worth doing? If not, what
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would be a 20mS patch if that would work better? My controller is the FD-502
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and is 40 track double sided.
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#: 11528 S1/General Interest
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29-Jul-91 14:55:18
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Sb: #11527-Go to 6mS or Not Go?
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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I guess it depends on the drive. However, I've been running my Mitsumi drives
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at 6ms for a long time. About the only thing that still uses the slower step
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rates on my systems is the original Lvl 2 System Disk.
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I'd say go ahead and set your system up for 6ms step rates.
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I booted my system from floppy descriptors that were set up for 6ms even though
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the initial booting module still accessed the drive at 30ms. The 'sudden
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change of speed' did nothing to hinder my systems' operation.
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Have you got the DMODE program from Lib 9 or 10? It's a great utility for
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setting several floppy descriptor parameters.
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Lee
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#: 11533 S1/General Interest
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29-Jul-91 21:51:14
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Sb: #11527-#Go to 6mS or Not Go?
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Fm: Rick Ulland 70540,3305
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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Erich-
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I've also used that patch on TEAC,TEC,and whatever-it-is-they-put-inna502
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drives with no problem.My thinking is if it didn't break a TEC drive, it won't
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break anything! But while you're 'apatchin', this is the one that speeds Boot
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up to 6ms as well-
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l boot
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c 017c 1310
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v I can't tell if this really speeds the boot up much, but some drives sound
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like a broken MixMaster at 30ms...
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Rick
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#: 11542 S1/General Interest
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30-Jul-91 19:19:27
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Sb: #11533-Go to 6mS or Not Go?
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Rick Ulland 70540,3305 (X)
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So there is more to the story (g)! Now that I can make some good use of my
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EZGen, I'll be doing both patches soon. Thanks for your "bonus" tip.
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#: 11529 S15/Hot Topics
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29-Jul-91 20:14:26
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Sb: #11416-#MM/1 delivery
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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John,
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Ship that drive to
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IMS Shipping 108 Elmwood Terrace Greensboro NC 27408
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Include a note describing the problem, the diagnosis, and request a
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replacement.
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Thanks!
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Paul IMS
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#: 11545 S15/Hot Topics
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30-Jul-91 21:20:24
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Sb: #11529-#MM/1 delivery
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)
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Thanks for the info, Paul. I'll get it shipped. Learning how to use all this
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stuff little by little - think I'll dive into OddJob next.
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JohnW
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#: 11585 S15/Hot Topics
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02-Aug-91 17:41:08
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Sb: #11545-#MM/1 delivery
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)
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OddJob is one heck of a language. Call TechnoTeacher for support, too - they
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are extremely knowledgeable about OSK, UNIX, and multimedia stuff.
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Their phone number can be found by typing
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oj -?
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Talk to ya soon!
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Best,
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Paul
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IMS
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#: 11588 S15/Hot Topics
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02-Aug-91 20:53:57
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Sb: #11585-MM/1 delivery
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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Thanks Paul. Another question, where is the "rdump" command. Did it get left
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out? I thought I would poke around in the LIB files and see what I could
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learn.
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JohnW
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#: 11531 S15/Hot Topics
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29-Jul-91 20:22:31
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Sb: #11509-#MM/1 delivery
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)
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Glen,
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Taken care of -- I'll call you to confirm your order this week.
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Best,
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Paul IMS
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#: 11548 S15/Hot Topics
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30-Jul-91 23:05:17
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Sb: #11531-#MM/1 delivery
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Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)
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Thanks Paul... Waiting for your cal... If you get the answering machine after 6
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or 7 rings (meaning the Cellular has call-forwarded you to the house), leave a
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message. I usually call and get my messages 2 or 3 times a day. I'll get back
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to you right away. I am interested (if you have any available) in also getting
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a hard drive packaged with the new machine rather than having to right away
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have to tear down and adapt my old 30 megger off the CoCo3. I am interested in
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something 40 - 80 megs (larger, if the price is right).
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Glen Hathaway 71446,166
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#: 11586 S15/Hot Topics
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02-Aug-91 17:42:51
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Sb: #11548-MM/1 delivery
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
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Glen,
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Tried calling you. Will try again over the weekend -- hope you're in!
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Reaction to the MM/1 has been OVERWHELMING. I now get double the phone calls I
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used to get, and the literature is going out FAST.
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It really keeps me from doing other stuff I have to get done, like the rep
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marketing plan and so on.
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Best,
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Paul
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IMS
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#: 11606 S15/Hot Topics
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03-Aug-91 22:47:15
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Sb: #11293-#MM/1 delivery
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X)
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Colin, in your July 5th message you mentioned "latest issue of OSKer." From
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that, I gather it has published an issue since the April Rainbowfest -is that
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right? If so, it looks good for that mag. 'Bout time I subscribed, maybe?
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--mike k
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#: 11616 S15/Hot Topics
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04-Aug-91 16:13:09
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Sb: #11606-MM/1 delivery
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Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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YEAH, SEEMS LIKE I GOT THAT ISSUE (#5) MAYBE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. IT'S WORTH
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THE $12.
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--COLIN
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#: 11530 S1/General Interest
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29-Jul-91 20:20:04
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Sb: #11421-Apple Mac
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 (X)
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Bruce,
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You CAN connect 5 terminals up the ports, but then you have no serial port for
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a modem or mouse.
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Best best is to decide HOW you want to use the console, then figure how many
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terminals you will be able to use on the console. When you need more serial
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ports, add another MM/1 personal (allows three more users per Personal) via the
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MM/1 network. This connection does not use up a serial port. It allows 128
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MM/1s to be networked together -- Network File Manager is already included,
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saving you hundreds of dollars.
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Anyway, that's the scoop!
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Best,
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Paul IMS
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#: 11534 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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29-Jul-91 23:34:28
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Sb: '68 MJ for sale
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Fm: Hitoshi Yoshimoto 74140,13
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To: ALL
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I have a set of '68 Micro Journal from April 1986 to October 1988. Some of
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these issues include articles about OS-9, too. I need to make room for newer
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project, so I would like to sell them for $15. Those who are interested in,
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please send a message. Thank you.
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#: 11537 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Jul-91 09:05:09
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Sb: #Modempak
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: All
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There's now a kit available that, when installed correctly, will convert an old
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and nearly worthless Modem Pak into functional RS-232 Pak that works at the
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FF68 address.
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Question: What does it take to use the modified Modem Pak as a second Deluxe
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RS-232 Pak running from Slot #2 of the MPI?
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- Re-addressing to avoid conflicts with RS-232 Pak in Slot #1
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- IRQ Hack
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What else?
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Any advice and help will be appreciated.
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Thanks, Lee
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 11538 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Jul-91 10:12:30
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Sb: #11537-#Modempak
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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Lee - that sounds about like it... except perhaps that if the IRQ hack used
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doesn't include a path all the way past the GIME, then ACIAPAK needs to have
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its code which shuts off GIME interrupts taken out (set to NOPs). This so that
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deiniz'ing one port doesn't shut the other one out :-)
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Ummm... that patch should be around here somewhere, unless you have done it
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already ? kev
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#: 11539 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Jul-91 11:24:58
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Sb: #11538-Modempak
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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Kevin,
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I'm using the Comm-4 and Alpha Software gave me a patch that I think did the
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NOPing that you talked about. I had already discussed that with the guy in our
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club that's doing the ModemPak hack as a probability. It seems like it was
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about a 5 or 6 byte string of NOPs (hex 12s as I recall).
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Thanks for the info.
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Lee
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#: 11540 S7/Telecommunications
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30-Jul-91 14:46:03
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Sb: #Sterm
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Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
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To: ALL
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I am using Sterm for the first time today & seem to have a problem getting the
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menu up (or for that matter, anything!!)
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The startup menu says hit ESC H for a menu. Welp, I tried ESC-H, CTL-H,
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ALT-H,CTL-ALT-H,SHIFT-RIGHT-H (like xcom9).....
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pretty much every combination I can think of, and I still can't get the menu to
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come up.
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Any help from you experienced OS9/Sterm users??
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Thanks!
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jim
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#: 11541 S7/Telecommunications
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30-Jul-91 15:05:46
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Sb: #11540-Sterm
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Fm: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751
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To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)
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Escape on the coco is the contral key and the break key pressed at the same
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time together. I've always hated that since I don't have the span in one hand
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to do that. this is a two hand operation.
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#: 11553 S7/Telecommunications
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31-Jul-91 08:24:24
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Sb: #11540-Sterm
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)
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Jim,
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It's a nimble fingered trick on the CoCo keyboard, but depress <cntl><break>
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_THEN_ the option letter.
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<CNTL><BREAK> is the <ESC> sequence.
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Steve
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#: 11544 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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30-Jul-91 19:29:42
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Sb: Making New System Disks
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Brother Jeremy
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A problem with my documentation has made it difficult for me to use my copy of
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EZGen 1.08. But I finally figured it out and after 22 hours I finally got the
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system disk I wanted. Well almost. I now know that the RAMdisk modules that
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came with my 512K upgrade are fine if you bring up the RAMdisk by commands, but
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don't work in the bootfile. A procedure file to do this helps except for how
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much memory is being wasted. So thanks for encouragging me to finally
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seriously try something other than CONFIG.
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#: 11547 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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30-Jul-91 22:29:12
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Sb: #URGENT-need answr 2nite!
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: all
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Could someone respond ASAP to this question? I might buy a guy's Atari system,
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and I need some input VERY QUICKLY, like Tonight, Right Now, Pronto, please.
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I'm being offered a $400.00 price for an Atari 1040ST, including a built-in
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3.5" floppy, 1-meg RAM installed, a monochrome monitor (higher resolution for
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MIDI stuff), and probably whatever game/software collection he has. Or $500
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for all that but a color monitor instead.
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Microware said they could still sell Personal OS9 2.4 (the older version) for
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the Atari ST for $150.00, so this system looks rather inticing.
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IS THIS A GOOD PRICE FOR USED EQUIPMENT?
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Do any of the KMAers offer substantially more power for same price range?
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I've heard others using the CM-8 monitor on the Atari ST. Can I do this and
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save even more by not buying the monochrome tube?
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I need to know TONIGHT July 30 if you can answer. The guy is leaving sometime
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tomorrow afternoon so I won't be able to log onto CIS before then (daytime
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rates & all that).
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- Thx, Paul Seniura.
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There are 3 Replies.
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#: 11550 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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31-Jul-91 00:11:36
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Sb: #11547-#URGENT-need answr 2nite!
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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Paul - let me go check out some prices on the other nets... also you might ask
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the same Q in ATARIPRO or ATARIARTS forums.
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In the meantime, $400-500 is about right for a 1meg ST with monitor. Since I'm
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pretty sure you can use (or build a tiny circuit to use) the CM-8 with it, then
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definitely get the monochrome monitor... it gives a sharp 640x400 screen.
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Again, let me check - there may be deals including hard disks around. - kev
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 11559 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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31-Jul-91 23:34:38
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Sb: #11550-URGENT-need answr 2nite!
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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Goodness gracious ... I'm very glad I didn't go spend that money! I'll go see
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about that 2.5meg ST & stuff. Now maybe I can get into OSK pretty cheap, eh?
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-- Thx, Paul Seniura.
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#: 11551 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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31-Jul-91 00:16:05
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Sb: #11547-URGENT-need answr 2nite!
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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HEY! Read message 48197 in ATARIP forum!! 2.5meg ST with 30 meg HD, both
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monitors for $550.
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You might also still want to check ATARIA forum tho. luck!
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#: 11554 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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31-Jul-91 08:30:04
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Sb: #11547-#URGENT-need answr 2nite!
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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Paul,
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I'm curious about your 'daytime rates' comment ....
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CIS has had the same rates day and evening for several years now. Or did you
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mean the daytime rates from a network such as Tymnet/Telenet?
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Steve
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#: 11560 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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31-Jul-91 23:43:42
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Sb: #11554-#URGENT-need answr 2nite!
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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As recently as last year when I bought another CIS subscription package, their
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little booklet had a $8 difference for Telenet & Tymnet prices between the
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day/night rates.
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But that message was formatted for simultaneous display on CIS and Delphi. The
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20/20 plan goes away during the day over yonder.
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-- Thx, Paul Seniura.
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 11569 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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01-Aug-91 07:49:38
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Sb: #11560-URGENT-need answr 2nite!
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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Paul,
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There still is a day/night pricing difference in the network surchage imposed
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by Telenet & Tymnet. Nothing to do with CompuServe tho.
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No local CompuServe node in your area? With some of the better long distance
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plans now in place, (i.e. Reach Out America, etc) a LD call can be cheaper than
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those surcharge.
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Steve
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#: 11556 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jul-91 20:48:51
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Sb: Spoker error 48
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Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143
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To: 76264,142
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I am having trouble with strippker (SPoker) I get marlena on half the screen
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and then an error 48?
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#: 11557 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jul-91 22:08:04
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Sb: #flakey port
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Fm: Rick Ulland 70540,3305
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To: all
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Been STERM'in for a while with no problem. But recently, I've noticed no 'Hot
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Topics' or whatever menu. Get the header, a long wait, then -
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userv TOP etc. just like that- first menu and Comp never received.I'm
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wondering... since GShell is patched to 1.24a and I never fixed the I/O modules
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in boot does that cause this or other problems? Or has anybody ran into this
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before? Or if this is a new one please send me an 'I don't know whatyou're
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talking about'
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Thanks -Rick
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#: 11568 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Aug-91 07:45:14
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Sb: #11557-#flakey port
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Rick Ulland 70540,3305 (X)
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Rick, "I don't know what you're talking about"! :-)
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Seriously .... your descritpion was a bit disjointed. Are you thumping <ENTER>
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every 80 or so characters?
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Sterm is pretty generic, so it shouldn't rely on patches and mods to your
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system. If you have an OS9 shell ... then Sterm should be working fine.
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Like wise... no change on the forum that might make HOT TOPICs take a hike. Is
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it possible your forum parameters have been modified in some way?
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Type OPtions and check out what subtopics you have enabled. Maybe 15 got turned
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off.
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Steve
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#: 11615 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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04-Aug-91 15:15:36
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Sb: #11568-#flakey port
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Fm: Rick Ulland 70540,3305
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Actually, this crops up right after compuservs header, not in forum.I get the
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header, then it just sits for awhile. When the cursor resumes, it starts in the
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middle of a word. The minor version only loses a few letters, ; so GO RATES for
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current... becomes ATES for current.... This isn't really a problem. The major
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version loses the first menu alltogether,along with holiday announcements,etc.
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and resumes somewhere in the TOP menu. This all happens before sending
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anything.(except id and password). Which makes me want to blame my system. BTW,
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is there any reason STERM won't run from an AIF with the params on line 2? I
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can only >start a shell >hotkey over, and >start STERM from the command line.
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Double clicking an AIF gives a pretty pink screen with what looks like an 20x10
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window in the top corner.
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Thanks for the help -Rick
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#: 11626 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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05-Aug-91 07:53:54
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Sb: #11615-flakey port
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Rick Ulland 70540,3305
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Rick,
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What you're describing sounds like your system is dropping characters big time!
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HAve you installed the IRQ hack? If not, this could be the source of your
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trouble.
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Also:
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Are you running the patched gshell or stock? (If stock ... get the patches).
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Also, it's possible that the mouse is stealing too many cycles. Move the cursor
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to the far edge of the screen and ssee if things improve.
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On using an AIF ... no problem at all. What appears to be happening is that
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your next window descriptor in line is set up incorrectly. You should nab wmode
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from the libraries and check out the parameters. (wmode works much like dmode
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for drives).
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Steve
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#: 11561 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jul-91 23:49:55
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Sb: #11520-#you better read this
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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I've been waiting more than a half year for some useful help and feedback on
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several articles I've uploaded, not just the Timer project either.
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The forum MESSAGES are not where the articles are located; they are uploaded
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into the library sections. After uploading an article, I'll start a message
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intending for that to be the "reply thread" for the ARTICLE. Those text files
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can't fit into a message here on CIS, and most people would have to suffer
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through them if they *did* fit (Delphi's system will allow such a fit). So if
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you want to calculate how long I've been waiting for responses, check the
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upload dates of the ARTICLES not the messages. And start browsing those
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messages I left -- the NICE ones -- intending on starting discussion threads,
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one thread for each various subject related to those article text files.
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Now count how many times I've logged on silently to see if there were any
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replies to those initial thread-starting messages. That all adds up in terms
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of CIS on-line charges. They *do* count. You weren't counting all of these
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times I passed by to find "nothing's going on", because I *was* silent. Nothing
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useable on the forums, no e-mail, no requests for conferences to do the details
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interactively, no volunteers to go ask people on Usenet, no nuthin.
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Just plain ol' wasting money. Which is why I burst a few days ago after I
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found out CIS has a contest going on about "How Calling CIS Saved My Day" or
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some such subject. They are doing that to justify the high cost of using this
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service. I felt they need to know why people like me are just burning dollar
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bills on their phone lines. And I still feel like they need to know.
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Shoot, I feel very embarrassed I had to get that flaming angry just to eeek out
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a response out of someone. It's not fun doing this; it demonstrates the sheer
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lack of knowledge we have when we want to develop something (despite all the
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books I've bought which also helped those authors earn a living). Lack of
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knowledge is frustrating in itself, not counting the waiting we've been doing
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here.
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-- Thx, Paul Seniura.
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#: 11614 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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04-Aug-91 09:57:31
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Sb: #11561-you better read this
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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Paul,
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Thanks for taking the time to respond with a very well thought out argument. I
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can appreciate your frustration, but to place the blame on the entire OS9
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community is pretty heavy.
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I've been associated with the forum for a long time (both as a user and as
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'staff') and can offer this observation:
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When in Rome ...
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It's been my experience that an approach to a problem that starts out with
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dumping a disertation to the libraries, calling for comment on multiple issues,
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then looking for discussion in the message base never seems to work. I've seen
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it fail with a call for a standard regarding MV, issues revolving around the
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now-defuncted UG and a handful of other topics.
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What I _have_ seen work is to take the same multiple issues, break them up into
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smaller single topics and start a discussion in the message base. Folks tend to
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respond better, are more apt to talk off the top of their head, and some good
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ideas result. Of course this places the burden of compilation of thoughts upon
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you as the 'moderator', but I think you're up for it!
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This technique has worked extremely well with the development of the first UUCP
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port to the CoCo. Mark would call for comments on a single facet of his
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efforts, retreive the offered feedback, chew on it off line and respond with
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some code fragment for us to pound on.
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It also worked fantastically with the development of the imfamous Level II
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upgrade. Hidden behind the scenes in a private subtopic, library and conference
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area, this type of give and take went on with over a dozen individuals.
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Development by committee works .... it's the approach that needs careful
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application.
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The OS9 forum has a great reputation for helping out. I'd be happy to offer my
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assistance, but I'm user ... not a techician. Your knowledge of the subject
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matter is far and away past mine. I'd suggest that it's the same for many
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others as well. We're overwhelmed by the scope of what you've presented.
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Piece it out and let's see what happens.
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Steve
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#: 11562 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jul-91 23:54:24
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Sb: #11515-you better read this
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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You quoted only part of the text that explains the copyright. I also said I
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was asking for feedback for these ideas and YOUR ideas would be protected as
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well and fully acknowledged if anything ever comes out of these various
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projects. I even explained this latter part to you more than this one time!
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And I'm trying to do it in such a way that the whole OS9 Community will become
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involved. Delphians have been more active than anyone on CIS here. Shoot, I
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even mentioned that in the second Timer article update. (You didn't see any
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CIS members mentioned except for yourself, did you? :-)
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I coined the "pessemistic" term upon myself due to the fact that I can't get
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the OS9 Community involved in ANYTHING. We're talking about several different
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projects remember. *Still* nothing on the "undocumented Stat calls" for the
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Acia project. Still nothing on the CoCo battery backup project. We ditched
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trying to get a response from SCSI interface companies in wanting to come up
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with a decent tape backup system; and the CD-ROM discussion we had here a while
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back died likewise since it involved those same SCSI companies. (Disto,
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OwlWare, those KMA companies, no one responded.)
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I replied to Steve Wegert (see reply to his msg #11520) explaining how long
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we've actually been waiting for feedback. If you care, you might like to read
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it, too.
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GEnie managers already got a lashing quite some time ago, mostly concerning how
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their MIDI users won't provide files using a universally available archive
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method. You can't use Standard MIDI Files if the stupid file is in those weird
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formats like ZOO, LZH, SIT, etc. The IMA should look into why that kind of
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practice is allowed -- defeats the whole purpose of having standard file
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formats, the SMF directly being controlled by the IMA. Lessons we can all
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learn.
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So having said all of this, let me get on with the other questions you typed.
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#: 11563 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jul-91 23:55:53
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Sb: #Timer Thoughts
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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The second Timer article update is a very watered-down (or boiled away) set of
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ideas we ended up discussing on Delphi. I didn't include the whole history and
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the entire reasoning behind those three ways of supporting the timer.
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And there's nothing vague about our ideas whatsoever. I ended up stating how
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we want to make the SVC support games and MIDI and whatever else would need a
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Programmable Timer interrupt. That's the crux of our project right there.
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We don't want a constant cycle interrupting all the time -- the 60-Hz vertical
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sync interrupt is for that. We want a programmable-length delayed one-shot IRQ
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and the quickest way to kick in the user task's "timer pop" routine.
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If some program calculates the need for a 0.045-second delay, for example, the
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12-bit timer can give us incredible accuracy compared to counting 60-Hz VIRQs
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(the way those Sierra games do it; I studied Bruce Isted's VRN sources). The
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number of 60-Hz pulses for a 0.045-sec pause turns out to be 2.7. But you
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can't count 0.7 pulses, and that's where the inaccurate timing can be fixed by
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using the 12-bit timer. If we count 2 VIRQs, that's almost a -26% error;
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counting 3 VIRQs has a +11% error. And those errors will be cumulative as the
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program continues to time things that way.
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Using 63.5-microsecond resolution of the 12-bit timer, we would set a 0.045-sec
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delay this way: That turns out to be 708 or 709 units, and that's the number
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to poke into the timer register after setting the IRQ flags on. It produces an
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error of less than 0.1% (that's one-TENTH of 1%).
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This lets the program continue generating whatever it needs to accomplish the
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"next" time, i.e. after the timer pops, without wasting CPU resources to count
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VIRQs. Since we want a one-shot effect, immediately after it pops, the SVC
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must turn off those IRQ flags before making OS9 kick in the user task's code.
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#: 11564 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jul-91 23:56:51
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Sb: #11563-#Timer Thoughts
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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Our discussions on Delphi have concentrated on how best to get that user task
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kicked in or "goosed" once the timer pops. I need to know more about lots of
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things before we can even do some tests. Those questions were brought up in
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the second Timer article update.
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If we did the pseudo-driver method, we already described what the record
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formats would look like: not much different than the way MFConv/MFPlay does it,
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but we'd need an extra field at the head of the record to specify the path# of
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the real physical device to send the data when the timer pops. But Jason
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Bucata brought up the points I covered in that article: We have too much
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overhead here, where the user pgm I$Writes to the pseudo-driver via SCF,
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wherein the pseudo-driver buffers the data until the timer pops, at which time
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another I$Write is issued with D.Proc saved/set to the user task# and writes
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the buffered data to that passed path#, more SCF overhead. You, Kevin, gave us
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a response this last time concerning using P$DATImg, which I assume will
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replace the act of I$Writing data from the user pgm to the pseudo-driver the
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first time around. *That* is an idea worth reconsidering this method of using
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the timer.
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But then some people on Delphi had an honest concern to not make the Timer
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Driver be so ridged to do only Timed I/O like this. Make it flexible and
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usable in a variety of ways. So I'm still very swayed about ditching the
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pseudo-driver method.
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Then came the SVC ideas, two of them (rounding out the three methods as
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mentioned). When we found out about F$Send, what you typed this last time, all
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pretty much matched. We tossed F$Icpt/F$Send out the door. Too inaccurate to
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base this 12-bit timer's resolution on.
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#: 11565 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jul-91 23:57:41
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Sb: #11564-#Timer Thoughts
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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..
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So we scratched our heads (again on Delphi -- no one was responding to CIS here
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as I've been saying during this time). I "discovered" F$SSWI on page 8-37 in
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the Tandy L2 Tech Ref. Tried to get people to find out if OS9 would swap a
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task in (if sleeping or whatever) immediately if not sooner after a SWIn. Eddie
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Kuns (who was very responsive as Jason was) said he thought it would since it
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seemed such an important action.
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And the watered-down boiled-down ideas are in that second Timer update article
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I posted. That's where we stand today, still in the research phase even before
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we can write code to test it. I *always* do this kind of research before
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sharing even an alpha-test program with people. I can't continue without some
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solid facts whether our ideas have any merit whatsoever, or should we consider
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other alternatives, or go completely back to the drawing board?
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So now let me reexplain the SVC/F$SSWI method we'd like to try but have no idea
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how to pursue testing it (I don't have a system-level debugger) or if it'd even
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work with our assumptions.
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First, the user pgm would do a SVC to inquire about the timer's resolution etc.
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The user pgm can use this in the mathmatics of converting its timing to that of
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the hardware/system.
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The user pgm then sets up a computed-length delay, and tells OS9 to branch to a
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routine (in its own area *or* to another subroutine module) when the timer
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pops. The user pgm may decide to sleep or to generate advanced data while
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waiting for the delay to end; this shouldn't matter to the timer SVC itself.
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#: 11566 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jul-91 23:58:46
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Sb: #11565-#Timer Thoughts
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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..
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(Okay, here's a place we need to set a standard: which of the "user SVCs"
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ranging from $70 to $7F as stated on page 8-108 of Tandy L2 Tech Ref can we use
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that someone hasn't used yet, considering all the "official" patches we see
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here, and considering sample OS9Pn materials or actual extensions people are
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using out there? We need to make sure we don't blap our SVC definitions on top
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of those! Then we can discuss good parameter-passing ideas later after we test
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and debug a few things. For fastness, we'd need 3 SVC numbers. I already
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explained two of 'em; the third would be to kill a "live" countdown being
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performed in the case of the user pgm deciding it doesn't want/need that delay
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for some reason.)
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Back on the road here. Somehow the user pgm will pass a parm to the Timer SVC
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to start actual timing, and the user pgm will also issue F$SSWI to point to its
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timer-pop routine. Not F$Icpt mind you: F$SSWI.
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(Okay here's another place we need help with: we can use SWI [type #1] or SWI3
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[type #3] as the Tandy books says on 8-37, right? Just stay away from SWI2?
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What should be "in" the "user software interrupt routine" pointed to by
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register X when the F$SSWI is issued? Do we use RTI or RTS when ending this
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routine?)
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The user pgm now isn't the main concern. The Timer SVC *is*. Once the SVC has
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been called to set up a delay, it lights up the various IRQ flags and F$IRQ
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service pointer packet to cause a branch to its code when OS9 determines that
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timer was the dude who belched. The SVC code itself will not be able to reread
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the IRQ tell-tale flags since the CoCo3's GIME resets 'em once they are read
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the first time, right? We must assume OS9 can do this on its own with the
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flip/flag bytes in the F$IRQ packet, right? And is the 12-bit timer register a
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"readable" register? What I'm getting at is that we don't have any way to
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ensure the timer interrupted, do we, as a double-check?
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#: 11567 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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31-Jul-91 23:59:39
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Sb: #11566-#Timer Thoughts
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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Well let's say once the timer interrupts, we "know" it's "us" who needs to
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respond. What to do? Remember we're in system mode at this point, and the
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user pgm probably is nowhere mapped-in right now. In order to call the user
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pgm's F$SSWI vector, we must "become" that task by saving then poking D.Proc
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with the id of that task. Then we can issue a matching SWIn 6809 instruction
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right then & there. Right? OS9's software interrupt routine will cause the
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user pgm to get mapped in and *bingo* we're running the code for that task.
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Right? We don't need to mess with map-in calls and DAT-image calls etc. Right?
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And the second Timer article update still has further questions which should be
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consulted at this time. And I hope these replies have made it clearer in order
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to understand that second update?
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-- Thx, Paul Seniura.
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#: 11570 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Aug-91 10:35:16
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Sb: #11567-#Timer Thoughts
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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Paul (this seems the easiest way of answering),
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"Our discussions on Delphi have concentrated on how best to get that user
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task kicked in or "goosed" once the timer pops.
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The main thing is: there really are different best methods for each need. And
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".045" second accuracy is usually something critical handled inside driver irq
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code. Few games need great accuracy, either. MIDI seems like about the only
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unique case to me... and it probably needs a driver, not a user task method.
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"need to know more about lots of things before we can even do some tests."
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Some testing you can/should do immediately. Such as checking out the way the
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timer works, etc... which can be done under RSDOS, even. You need the info and
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experience.
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"If we did the pseudo-driver method, ..."
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You could also do a file manager just to make the speed better for some types
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of timer apps... such as output to MIDI drivers.
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#: 11571 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Aug-91 10:35:37
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Sb: #11570-#Timer Thoughts
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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<continued>
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"which of the [SWI2] user SVCs ranging from $70 to $7F [can be used?]"
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Umm, probably any of them. Q: why not just use driver-specific statcalls? And
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speaking of the driver...
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"The [driver interrupt service] code itself will not be able to reread the
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IRQ tell-tale flags since the CoCo3's GIME resets 'em once they are read the
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first time, right? We must assume OS9 can do this on its own with the
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flip/flag bytes in the F$IRQ packet, right? And is the 12-bit timer register a
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"readable" register? What I'm getting at is that we don't have any way to
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ensure the timer interrupted, do we, as a double-check?"
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No, it can't re-read the GIME IRQ flags... which is why Clock stores a copy of
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them at D.IRQS ($00AF) in the Direct Page variables (see my book, or check the
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source for anyone's Clock module). From that copy it's easy to tell if the
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timer caused an interrupt.
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In fact, since there is no other indicator, you should use the D.IRQS variable
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address as the fake address of your "status register" in a F$IRQ setup packet.
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I've done this before (it's durned clever too, I might add :-).
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IRQPacket fcb 0,$20,255 flip,mask,priority
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DrivInit
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ldd #D.IRQS use GIME irq flag bits copy as
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leax IRQPacket,pc "status register" with
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leay IRQCode,pc bit 5 is the "irq" bit
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OS9 F$IRQ
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...
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IRQCode
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lda D.IRQS acknowledge timer irq tken care of
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anda #^$20
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sta D.IRQS
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...
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#: 11572 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Aug-91 10:36:23
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Sb: #11571-Timer Thoughts
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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<continued>
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"(Okay here's another place we need help with: we can use SWI or SWI3 as the
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Tandy books says on 8-37, right? Just stay away from SWI2? What should be "in"
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the "user software interrupt routine" pointed to by register X when the F$SSWI
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is issued? Do we use RTI or RTS when ending this routine?)"
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Alright, more detail: a SWI/SWI3 causes the 6809 to stack the current register
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values. SWI also sets the I and F interrupt flags, if that matters to y'all.
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Then OS-9 maps in the system, jumps to the SWI/SWI3 vector, and that simply
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jumps back to the _last_ user process map at the offset set by previous F$SWI
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with the SP still pointing at your SWIx stackframe. The kernel is now done.
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Your user process now can look up parameters from the stacked register values,
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and of course to return it can do either a RTI or drop most of the stack and do
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an RTS. This all assumes the user process does the SWI/SWI3 tho.
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"Well let's say once the timer interrupts, we "know" it's "us" who needs to
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respond. What to do? Remember we're in system mode at this point, and the
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user pgm probably is nowhere mapped-in right now. In order to call the user
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pgm's F$SSWI vector, we must "become" that task by saving then poking D.Proc
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with the id of that task. Then we can issue a matching SWIn 6809 instruction
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right then & there. Right?"
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Sorry, the SWI/SWI3 stuff isn't quite that fancy (see above)... and if you did
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one from a driver, then ummmm... maybe you could by with it if you did the
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change to D.Proc and also an F$SetTsk to set up the user DAT mapping. Oh, and
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also set up the P$variables such as the process timeout etc.
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Ooops. You'd be leaving the system set up for system state stuff tho, and a
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stackframe on the system stack. That might still be okay... not sure. Hafta
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look. In any case, I'd go for a driver right now and wait on F$SWI stuff... it
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wasn't meant for this kind of thing. - kev
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#: 11573 S3/Languages
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01-Aug-91 19:02:40
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Sb: #CENV.AR
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: All
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I recently downloaded the CENV.AR archive from Lib 3. When I de-ARchived it,
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there were three new files in the data directory. They were CENV (the program
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and support programs), CENVDOC (which I assumed was the docs file), and
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RELEASE.DOC (which was a small one page thank you note.)
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CENV seems to work, I've set up an AIF which I click on and the program starts.
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The problem is that some configuring needs to be done, but the docs file
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(CENVDOC) seems to be an archive of an archive. There appears to be some
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nested files within the CENVDOC file, but they don't seem correctly formatted
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so that a simple additional "AR -x CENVDOC" can extract them.
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I figured a few things without the docs, but having the docs would be extremely
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helpful (I hope!), but up to now the docs are defying extraction.
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Has anyone got a good set of docs out of CENV.AR?
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Lee
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#: 11576 S3/Languages
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02-Aug-91 00:12:50
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Sb: #11573-#CENV.AR
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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I have. To get them out, it looks like one needs the "cuts" utility that is
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used by folks on the BITNET CoCo mailing list to encode files for transmission.
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Cuts does have advantages, especially in the mixed ASCII/EBCDORK environment of
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BITNET...but anyway, do you have cuts?
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#: 11582 S3/Languages
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02-Aug-91 11:47:29
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Sb: #11576-#CENV.AR
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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I have bruises but no cuts!!!
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I wonder if some one could un-CUT the CENVDOC file that's got the CENV docs
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imbedded in there, and then put the un-CUT docs back up in the LIB?
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It sure would help if someone could cut loose the docs on CENV.
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Thanks,
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Lee
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#: 11590 S3/Languages
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02-Aug-91 21:53:41
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Sb: #11582-#CENV.AR
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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I think I could manage that...watch this space.
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#: 11593 S3/Languages
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03-Aug-91 01:25:04
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Sb: #11590-CENV.AR
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Thanks, James.
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Lee
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#: 11575 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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01-Aug-91 23:42:12
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Sb: #Disk Drive Fix--/d1
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: ALL
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I may soon get my second physical disk drive--a standard 360K like my drive 0.
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I downloaded a text file some time ago about making a drive fix. Is this fix
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required on any disk drive I get or just Tandy's? The line where it says the
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drive upgrade "as supplied" may require the fix makes it look like it might
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only be Tandy's. My local PC dealer will do it for free if I get the drive
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there and have it done at time of sale, so I need to know now whether I should
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request the service.
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#: 11577 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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02-Aug-91 04:02:43
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Sb: #11575-Disk Drive Fix--/d1
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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Erich - I think that fix was only for the second FD502 drive from Tandy.
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Any other drive... just set the jumper so that the motor is always on with the
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"motor on" signal (versus motor on with drive select). There may be a very few
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drives out there with no such jumper tho. They're usually there, tho (oops, I
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can't recall the jumper markings... MM maybe? guys?).
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#: 11581 S7/Telecommunications
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02-Aug-91 10:04:38
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Sb: #sterm w/o Modem Pak
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Steve Wegert
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I ran sterm the way I usually do and the same problems occurred. I do get TR
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on the modem after the opening menu appears. When I communicate with the
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modem, RD and SD lights are active.
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#: 11596 S7/Telecommunications
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03-Aug-91 09:13:28
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Sb: #11581-#sterm w/o Modem Pak
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)
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If the RD and SD lights are active, then there is a link between sterm and the
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port. That's good!
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Is it possible that the modem's echo is truned off? What happens if you type
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ATe1 ? You should get a '0' in response if you have non verbal error messages
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set ... and'OK' if you have verbose on.
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Also ... is the 'CD' lamp lit when you're trying to use Sterm? If not, then
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your DCD line is not being held high as required by aciapak.
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Steve
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#: 11609 S7/Telecommunications
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03-Aug-91 23:59:12
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Sb: #11596-#sterm w/o Modem Pak
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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The CD light is always on whenever the modem is on. I never changed the echo
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from its defaults setting. The problem is after logon the modem now responds
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to my ATDT commands.
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#: 11613 S7/Telecommunications
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04-Aug-91 09:24:23
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Sb: #11609-sterm w/o Modem Pak
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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Things are begining to get fuzzy, Erich. (Joys of diagostics via modem!)
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Do you mean to say that you're able to log into ...say... CompuServe, then the
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modem drops into command mode? If so ... what happens if you type ATO ?
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Steve
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#: 11583 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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02-Aug-91 16:51:47
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Sb: #DS-69B and Hard Drive...
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: All
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I recently acquired a DS-69B video digitizer. The DECB software that I have to
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operate it seems to work fine. I'm still on the lookout for some OS-9 drivers
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so that I don't have to drop back to DECB, when I want to use the digitizer.
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However, I may have discovered somethang that may cause a problem depending on
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whether the system that I ultimately put this thing on has a B&B hard drive
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system with the AutoBoot XT-ROM.
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The other night after using the digitizer, I wanted t switch back over to
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run Lvl 2.
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I powered off my system.
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I moved the MPI slot switch to 3 (where the B&B Autoboot ROM is)
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I powered on my system.
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The hard drive came ready.
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The Autoboot ROM dib it's memory check,
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then when it tried to start the OS9 BOOT,
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the hard drive was accessed as if the BOOT was being looked for, but
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the OS9 BOOT message never appeared on the screen, and then
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floppy drive 0 started spinning, the Autoboot seemed be defaulting to
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the floppy boot procedure.
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Since I don't boot from floppy there was not boot disk in drive 0, the DECB
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message eventually popped onto the screen!
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......continued in next message.....
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#: 11584 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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02-Aug-91 16:53:33
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Sb: #11583-#DS-69B and Hard Drive...
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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..... continued from previous message.......
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I use the Puppo keyboard interface (which has a ROM that bypasses his built-in
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menu), so I did a CTRL-ALT-INS to do the full reset. The results were the
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same. After the memory check, the hard drive was accessed but the boot
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apparently wtsn't found, then the floppy was accessed, and the DECB message
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popped onto the screen.
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Initially, I thought that the HD was on the fritz. I checked the cabling,
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power, connections, contacts, and tried the boot again. Same results!
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Remembering that I had plugged in the DS-69B before I started having trouble,
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and even though I knew that "it couldn't be causing the problem", I unplugged
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it and retried the boot process. The system booted and came up without a
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hitch!!!
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Later after finishing my OS-9 work, I wanted to make sure that the earlier
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booting failures weren't just quirky one-time anomales. I plugged the DS-69B
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back into the MPI (slot 2, just as before). Powered on the system and the
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sywtem would not boot. In every case the HD was accessed then floppy drive 0
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accessed as if the boot couldn't be fouId on the HD. I can only assume that
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the system would have booted from floppy had I had a bootable diskette
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installed in drive 0, but I don't know that for sure. The object was to get
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the system to boot from the HD while the DS-69B was plugged in. The objective
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was not reached.
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Anyone have any clues as to what is going on here?
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If I haven't provided enough details, I will be glad to answer any questions
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that come up and that I can.
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Thanx,
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Lee
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#: 11587 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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02-Aug-91 20:05:10
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Sb: #11584-#DS-69B and Hard Drive...
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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Lee - any idea where the DS-69B is addressed?
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Also, does it use the SLENB line or the interrupts or ?
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kev
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#: 11591 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Aug-91 01:18:03
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Sb: #11587-DS-69B and Hard Drive...
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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I scanned the docs looking for the DS-69B's address, but didn't see it. I'll
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look again. Let's see, B&B is addressed at FF50, if I get your drift, any
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overlaping of the DS-69B's address and B&B's really invites problems doesn't
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it?
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Lee
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#: 11592 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Aug-91 01:24:38
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Sb: #11587-#DS-69B and Hard Drive...
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Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
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To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
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The only technical info that I've noticed so far is that, if the DS-69B is to
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be used with a PBJ C-C Bus, then the CART* must be connected to the bus. The
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owner's manual shows a simple diagram of the C-C Bus. *Interrupt Input for
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Cartridge Detection. (The above virtually a direct quote from the owner's
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manual.)
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Lee
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#: 11597 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Aug-91 10:11:31
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Sb: #11592-DS-69B and Hard Drive...
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)
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Hmm. I guess what I was thinking of was this: I've had paks which left the irq
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line low on power up or reset sometimes... and that makes booting nearly
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impossible. Must be an article on the DS69B somewhere. Maybe in the coco
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forum? I'll look.
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#: 11589 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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02-Aug-91 21:08:39
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Sb: #STERM 1.5
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Fm: thomas aubin 70540,1666
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To: 76703,4255 (X)
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Steve,
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Remember the disk you sent me? I have not figured out how to use the sterm 1.5
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yet. I am using 1.2 now and would like to try the other version you sent me but
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when I do all I get is NO TERMINAL NAME. What is wrong?
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Tom
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#: 11594 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Aug-91 09:07:20
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Sb: #11589-#STERM 1.5
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: thomas aubin 70540,1666 (X)
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Tom,
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Ahhh! Easy questions!
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On that disk, you should find a file called termcap and a file called ttytype.
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Move both of these critters to your /dd/sys directory and things should be
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fine.
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Steve
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#: 11598 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Aug-91 21:09:40
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Sb: #11594-STERM 1.5
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Fm: thomas aubin 70540,1666
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
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Thanks Steve,
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Gotta have an easy one once and a while.
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TOM
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#: 11599 S3/Languages
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03-Aug-91 22:06:31
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Sb: #Help with C compiler
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Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
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To: All
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Hello:
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I thought if I deleted all of the c compiler off of /dd and then recopied it to
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/dd (hard drive) from /d2, it would get rid of the following:
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/* khm.c */
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#include <stdio.h>
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main()
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{
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printf"Keith March\n";
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}
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CC1 VERSION RS 01.00.00 COPYRIGHT 1983 MICROWARE REPRODUCED UNDER LICENSE TO
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TANDY 'khm.c' c.prep: c.pass1: c.pass2: c.opt: c.asm: c.link: Unresolved
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references:
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main cstart_a in /dd/lib/cstart.r linker fatal: unresolved
|
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references
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OS9:rdump /dd/lib/cstart.r
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Module name: cstart_a TyLa/RvAt: 11/81 Asm valid: Yes Create date: Jul 18,
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1983 12:23 Edition/ROF: 1/0
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Section Init Uninit
|
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Code: 0168
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DP: 01 00
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Data: 0000 0050
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Stack: 0380 Entry point: 0009
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OS9:dir /dd/lib
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Directory of /dd/lib 22:54:36 cgfx.l clib.l cstart.r
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sys.l
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Every program I try to compile I end up with this error!
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HELP!!
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Keith H. March
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#: 11620 S3/Languages
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04-Aug-91 22:56:53
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Sb: #11599-#Help with C compiler
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: Keith H. March 70541,1413 (X)
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Keith -
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|
|
A few questions:
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|
Are you using Carl Kreider's stuff? If so, are you using HIS ctsart.r?
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|
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Are you using his/my 'cc'?
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|
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Is there adequate free space in whatever directory your temp files are being
|
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written? The compiler/linker deals with space problems in a very uncool manner.
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Pete
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#: 11600 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Aug-91 22:11:40
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Sb: #11146-UltiMuse3
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Mark Wuest 74030,332
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Hi Mark. I started using Suns about 5 years ago, and in fact the menu buttons
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in Umuse3 are based on Sun, rather than on Tandy Multi-Vu (ugh).
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#: 11601 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Aug-91 22:12:34
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Sb: #11163-latest SMF stuff
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)
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Nope, rather use Delphi, especially for long stuff.
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#: 11602 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Aug-91 22:14:25
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Sb: #11228-UMUSE3
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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Hi. Maybe you can pry Rainbow's UME-K copy out of them. I can send you a
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better one, at least better grafix borders, but not for a couple of weeks. Hope
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Rainbow got their copy OK. I called Cray and told him it was coming. And hope
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they're playing with a loaner MM/1.
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#: 11604 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Aug-91 22:24:03
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Sb: #11228-UMUSE3
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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Hi again. Forgot to mention, the DW8000 upgrade is advertised in back of
|
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Keyboard Mag for $200 by some outift with the word "Heaven" (or is it "Angel"?)
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in their name. It was reviewed in one issue. I think it's just a ROM upgrade,
|
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but it gives you two timbres, keyboard splits, at least double the patch
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memory, and a lot of minor improvements. I haven't bothered getting it yet.
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You install it yourself (or get Mark to do it for you, he he).
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I'd much rather see an upgrade fo the MT-32 -- this box REALLY NEEDS one! Nice
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hardware spoiled by buggy, slow firmware. Some company will take your MT32 and
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hack it for $150 - $400 depending on how many mods you ask for. Not known
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whether these fix the real problems. --mike k
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#: 11603 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Aug-91 22:18:00
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Sb: #11420-#Bad Download
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X)
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Yes, we do recommend each other's programs when it suits the customer -glad you
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have that attitude too. I steer users to "Lyra COmpanion" for general
|
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discussions of music and MIDI, too.
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Nice to hear about that COvox board, sorta like Muisc Feature or SOundblaster.
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Yes, my PC is not doing any music so far, since ya gotta buy real hardware to
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run MIDI (unlike our RatShack "toy"). It's a COmpaq portable with only two
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slots open, so I have to watch what I put in there.
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What does that Covox package sell for, roughly? THanks, mike k
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#: 11628 S4/MIDI and Music
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05-Aug-91 08:46:13
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Sb: #11603-Bad Download
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Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430
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To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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Mike, the Covox package retails for $239, which includes the FM synth, MIDI
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interface, digitizer, PC-Lyra, and cables. Might even be useful on a 6809
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system like the one Delmar is selling.
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#: 11605 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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03-Aug-91 22:36:31
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Sb: LInput
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Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
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To: anyone
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LInput.ar was posted some time ago and I may have missed a thread on
|
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same. I've tried to use LInput in B09 programs but get error 234 in each
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case. It seems to be an OS9 module and as such wouldn't be a B09 command but
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is used as a B09 procedure in the examples given. (???) Have I overlooked
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something? -ph-
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#: 11607 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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03-Aug-91 23:03:14
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Sb: #11090-PCoid keyboards & CTRL
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Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
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To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
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Hi Scott. Glad to hear that you've put out another OSKer since the
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RainbowFest. Guess it's time for me to subscribe, or maybe even write an
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article on 101 ways to mess up a C program port from Coco to OSK. It ain't
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simple if the program is non-trivial. Basic09 is a lot easier to move over,
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tho I avoid that language except for quickie throwaways to do odd things like
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zap a couple bytes in a disk file. --mike knudsen
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#: 11610 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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04-Aug-91 00:02:14
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Sb: #Multi-Vue Questions
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Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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To: ALL
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Is it possible to use MultiVue's Windint and W8 through W15 drivers in an
|
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ordinary OS-9 boot le? And use W8-W15 as any other windows? Also, I know how
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to tell MV to run a standard shell. But how do I cancel it and return to MV
|
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when I'm through with it
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I found out the hard way that EX is no not it!
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(lots of line noise I couldn't backspace over)
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#: 11611 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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04-Aug-91 02:40:06
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Sb: #11610-Multi-Vue Questions
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
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Erich - if I read you right, then sure... many of us boot to a normal shell,
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but have windint etc in our boot. All GShell is, is an application program.
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Just rename "autoex" in your CMDS dir to something else, and you won't boot
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into gshell. You can always call it up if needed, tho.
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To exit a shell, type ESC (CTRL-BREAK).
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kev
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#: 11617 S1/General Interest
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04-Aug-91 20:32:47
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Sb: #Sterm1.5
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Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
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To: anyone
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|
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I recently downloaded Sterm.AR, un-arced it and read the manual. After
|
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setting attributes, creating a SYS directory, etc. I was able to get to the
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boot-up screen and test the commands. But Sterm was stuck at 9600 baud.
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Setting xmode /term=4 type=0 I re-tried but was not able to change the
|
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setting to 2400 baud. What else is necessary to change the baud rate? Also,
|
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does Sterm work on Multi-Vue as well as from regular OS9? Couldn't even get to
|
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main menu if I booted from MV. Can /M1 as well as /T2 be used as a port?
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-ph-
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#: 11619 S1/General Interest
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04-Aug-91 21:57:09
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Sb: #11617-#Sterm1.5
|
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Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
|
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To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)
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|
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Paul,
|
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If the "xmode" line in your message is the one you used, and not a typo, then
|
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there lies the problem. To set T2 to 2400 baud, you should give it "xmode /t2
|
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baud=4". I THINK Sterm should be able to use M1, but I have never tried it, so
|
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I'm not sure. I HAVE used Sterm on Multi-Vue, both on it's own and as a proc
|
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called by WizPro to do CIS"B" transfers. Are you sure your MV boot has T2 in
|
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it?
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JohnW
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#: 11624 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-91 06:58:09
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Sb: #11619-Sterm1.5
|
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Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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Thanks for the tips. I'll check on the /t2 module for MV right now.
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#: 11625 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-91 07:40:52
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Sb: #11619-#Sterm1.5
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Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
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To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
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/t2 not being in the MV modules dir was the problem alright! Now, how does
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one initiate communication with host? Is there an Sterm equivalent to ctrl-c ?
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I notice the modem's TR status light comes on as soon as Sterm boots. -ph-
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#: 11627 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-91 07:57:57
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Sb: #11625-#Sterm1.5
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Paul Hanke 73467,403 (X)
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Paul,
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Now that you've gotten things straigtend out, all you need do is dial your
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Compuserve number, and hit <CNTL><C> for the User Id prompt. Alternately,
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hitting enter will net you a Host: prompt. CompuServe's host is CIS or CPS.
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#: 11629 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-91 16:18:27
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Sb: #11627-Sterm1.5
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Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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Ok, thanks. I'll give it a try.
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One last item: would you know about LINPUT.AR's line input command for basic
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09? Couldn't seem to get that one to work. -ph-
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#: 11630 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-91 16:53:59
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Sb: #11627-Sterm1.5
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Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
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To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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Tried cntl-c as well as <enter> after dialing up CIS but got no results, CIS
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disconnected after time-out. Dunno what the problem is. Even a null modem
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setup with another computer I was able to transfer keyboard input back & forth
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with sterm but apparently no output goes thru to the modem. Just to be sure
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that MPI & rs232 pack were interacting properly (sometimes they are out of
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alignment) I hit reset with DM-3 in the drive and was able to connect to CIS
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using telecom, ruling out that possibility. -ph-
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#: 11618 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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04-Aug-91 21:25:41
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Sb: #KRNL.AR problems?
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Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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To: 76703,4227 (X)
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Hi Kevin,
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We're having a terrible summer storm right now. It might be a doosie. Just
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wanted to say I captured your replies and will study them.
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Late last week I decided to install the KRNL.AR patches and I'm having some
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funny things happening (this started days before today's storm! :-). I use to
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run the Performance Peripheral's no-halt cacheing driver at 160k and a 96k RAM
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disk (Tandy's that'd been patched to fix that block-computation bug.) Now I
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also have Disto's 1-meg dealie. The Mega pgm kicked things in just fine. The
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Krnl patch, though, is doing something different (when booting from this
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patched kernal, I do not run Mega). I can't seem to use the last 256k -- if I
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have 320k or less on the MFree display, and I start running the version of
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DirCopy I found here on CIS, the video gets sparklies and the CoCo has crashed.
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DirCopy has worked great all these years, though! (Oh the system area was at
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9k free with your SMap pgm.)
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Well on top of this, Mike Sweat's BRU crashes, too, on around the 8th diskette
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doing a full backup from my first 40-meg h.d. The output diskette is in RS
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format, 720k 80-track (5.25"). BRU ended with a stack overflow and an error
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code of 207. MFree said 296k after that; clearly another indication we're
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getting screwed up in that last 256k block somehow.
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I'm going to go back to the Mega way of using the 1-meg upgrade. I've gotta
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get more space on my drives to do those projects!: In the B&B adapter, I'm
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swapping the WD-XTGEN card (MFM) for a Seagate RLL card (the drives just happen
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to be RLL types already, so I'll soon have 130-meg on-line!). Plus the speed
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will help things a lot (ST277-1 model, 28-mS step!). If we could just get B&B
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to do cache for the h.d. ... But could you help or relay the KRNL.AR problem to
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whomever needs to know? I'll help anyway I can.
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-- Thx, Paul Seniura (76476,464).
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#: 11622 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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05-Aug-91 04:44:28
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Sb: #11618-KRNL.AR problems?
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: PaulSeniura 76476,464
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Hi Paul,
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Yah, lots of storms here in NC, too... I sometimes have to run in and shut
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everything down. Which I hate, since I like using the ramdisk so much :-).
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I'll mention the mega problem to Bruce, if he doesn't see your message first.
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The kernel patch is his, but I'm not sure if he used his own ram checker or
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mine. One of us may have goofed and/or something else may be happening.
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Thanks for the tip - kevin
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#: 11621 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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05-Aug-91 00:17:43
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Sb: #@???
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Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
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To: Kevin Darling
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Hi Kevin,
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it's been a pretty wild summer here so far. Haven't
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been online much. Did you ever find a copy of your book
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that you are willing to part with?
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I haven't been keeping track; how are the MM/1's
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going over (if you don't know, is there someone I could ask?)?
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Am interested in how people like them.
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take care,
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Paul
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#: 11623 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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05-Aug-91 04:52:53
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Sb: #11621-@???
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Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
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To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
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Hi Paul,
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I have a red face. I thought I read that you found a book from the coco list.
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Mea culpa. Still have your address; bought an envelope to mail it in before;
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so will send it out (and the good Jeremy's) tomorrow.
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All the machines seem to be selling well, or at least interest is high :-)
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Traditionally, this is the dead time of the year for computer sales, tho.
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Everyone should ask Santa for one <grin>. But the coco is still rolling along
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also, I must note.
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You'd probably have to ask the vendors in email, exactly how many systems
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they've sold... you know how that goes :) best - kev
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#: 11631 S7/Telecommunications
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05-Aug-91 20:22:43
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Sb: telecom parameters
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Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
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To: all
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Some observations on parameters may be in order:
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They say that logon to CIS with 7E1 is best.
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Deskmate for OS9 doesn't change to 8N1 for xmodem transfers to 7E1 doesn't
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work. But CIS does accept a logon with 8N1 from deskmate and xmodem transfers
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work fine!
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Ultimaterm can logon with 7E1 or 8N1 but line feeds get lost with 8N1 and
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text wraps around, even menus, but it works.
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CIS, however, doesn't like pc's to logon using 8N1 and will produce enough
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jumbled charcters to make legibility quite difficult.
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Given the above, what would be the explanation, short of partiality to
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Deskmate's telecom?
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#: 11632 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
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05-Aug-91 20:30:31
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Sb: COCO in 1 box
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Fm: thomas aubin 70540,1666
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To: ALL
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I have a COCO 3, MPI , 2 drives etc. that takes up alot of desk space. Sound
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familiar?
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I want to do what several others have done and install the whole mess into a PC
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Clone case and use the pc power supply.
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My problem is that I don't know where to get the case and power supply I need
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for this project.
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Any ideas???
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Thanks
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TOM
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