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31343 18-AUG 14:59 Telcom
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RE: Terminal Programs OS9 (Re: Msg 31329)
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From: TIMKIENTZLE To: SQUAREB (NR)
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Most RSDOS term programs do support XModem. I know for certain that Autoterm
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does, since I've heard many people report problems with it! <grin>
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If you're interested in downloading OS9 files, then you can use an RSDOS
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terminal program to download the file, and then use one of two programs to
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transfer it to an OS9-format disk.
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- RS2OS9.BAS (many other names) is an RSBASIC program that "converts" an
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RSDOS disk into an OS9 disk. You can then read the files from OS9, and copy
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them to a "real" OS9 disk. Many of these programs unfortunately have
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restrictions on the number and size of files they can deal with.
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- "rsdos" is an OS9 program that can read/write RSDOS disks. It's a bit
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tricky to install, since it requires patching some parts of OS9. You'll need to
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use something like RS2OS9.BAS to get the needed files ("rsdos" binary,
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documentation, patch files, and the patch program "ipatch") onto an OS9 disk to
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get started. Worth the effort, though, if you plan to transfer a lot of files
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back and forth.
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Once you can transfer files from RSDOS to OS9, you can then work on getting an
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OS9 terminal program working. Be aware that using a terminal program reliably
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under OS9 _requires_ an RS232 pak. I recommend Telstar, Supercomm, or JTerm as
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probably being among the easiest to start with. Once you have one of those
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running, you'll be able to download directly to an OS9 disk, and can start
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thinking about getting another terminal program, such as OSTerm, KBCom, or
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WizPro. All of these (and more!) are in the databases here.
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Good luck,
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Tim Kientzle
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31412 21-AUG 04:29 Telcom
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RE: Terminal Programs OS9 (Re: Msg 31343)
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From: FRANCALCRAFT To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
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You forgot to mention that one also needs the archiving program to unarchive
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those programs. Ipatch & associated files, and RSDOS and associated files are
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both archived.
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End of Thread.
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31344 18-AUG 15:02 Device Drivers
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RE: 80track qume (Re: Msg 31330)
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From: TIMKIENTZLE To: SCG
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The standard Tandy-compatible controllers can only step as fast as 6ms. All of
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that timing is handled by the FDC chip, and all standard disk controllers use
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the WD1773 FDC, which can only go as fast as 6ms.
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The Eliminator or some of the SCSI floppy controller boards can go faster,
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but I doubt it's worth it just to get faster floppies. If you want to get a hard
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disk, you might keep this in mind, that some of the hard disk interfaces can
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also interface floppy controller boards.
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- Tim
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31424 21-AUG 22:32 Device Drivers
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RE: 80track qume (Re: Msg 31344)
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From: SCG To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
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Thanks for the reply ... unfortunetly I kind of figured that but thanks again!
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and also dodgecolt thanks
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End of Thread.
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31345 18-AUG 15:05 General Information
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RE: Cave Walker (Re: Msg 31328)
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From: TIMKIENTZLE To: DRDUDE
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One other desperate idea.... a very few programs do have problems with Shell+,
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and you may want to at least try it with the stock Shell. Someone else mentioned
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that they had run it by booting from the stock Tandy OS9 Level II boot. Have
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you tried that?
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- Tim
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31348 18-AUG 18:19 General Information
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RE: Cave Walker (Re: Msg 31342)
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From: DRDUDE To: TIMKIENTZLE
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Well, I have tried all of this, and no go... I even booted up my OS-9 disk that
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came out od the box, and still no go... thanks for everything though!
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-Dr. Dude
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-Andy DePue
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End of Thread.
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C334$LNK@ULR":%=I55IM"Un
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RE: large data file problem (Re: Msg 31341)
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From: GREGL To: THUNDERFNGRS (NR)
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I would suggest changing your offset variables from an integer to a real. For
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example, use something like this:
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DIM Offset:REAL
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DIM Path:BYTE
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OPEN #Path,"temporary_file":UPDATE
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Offset:=140250
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SEEK #Path,Offset
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The problem with integers (in BASIC09) is that the value is limited to a range
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of -32768 to +32767. This is much to small for large files and the signed
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arithmetic will drive you nuts. BASIC09 is a good language but it has a serious
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limitation of data types. But REAL variables do work - BASIC09 will automaticall
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convert from REAL to LONG when necessary. But note that this will not work if
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you use system calls via SysCall; but you shouldn't use SysCall for seeks
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anyway.
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-- Greg
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31347 18-AUG 18:00 Patches
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RE: b&b + PBJ CC-BUS (Re: Msg 30752)
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From: SALZARD To: DENNYSKALA
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I downloaded the article on the PBJ modifications to work with the Co/Co-3 but
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references to "U-9" etc. did not help since I must have an earlier or later
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model PBJ C-C Bus with differenct "U" assignments to the same chips.
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What is the Chip ID for U-9? Is it 74LS10N ?
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I also discovered that the Schotkey (sp) diode interrupt fix suggested in last
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november's Rainbow caused some really weird problems unless the Rad Shack
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Multipak is plugged in, so I had to rip that out too.
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--Rodger Alexander
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31401 20-AUG 22:08 Patches
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RE: b&b + PBJ CC-BUS (Re: Msg 31347)
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From: DENNYSKALA To: SALZARD
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Yup, U-9 is indeed a 74LS10 - the only one on the board.
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I guess I'm not too surprised the the diode hack is incompatible with the CCBus
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- it always *WAS* kinda touchy. Keep that cable short fer sure!
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***** Dennis *****
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End of Thread.
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31349 18-AUG 19:40 General Information
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SCSI HD
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From: MATTSINGER To: MATHOMPSON
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Matt, Since you have a Seagate, you would know this, and I want to make sure
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that I have the story straight. Does the disto board plug DIRECTLY into a HD
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that has an imbedded controller <ie. the ST296N 5.25in 84meg 28ms> or does it
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plug into that card they sell to plug into the IBM bus?
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31364 19-AUG 04:00 General Information
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RE: SCSI HD (Re: Msg 31349)
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From: MATHOMPSON To: MATTSINGER
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Hi Matt,
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Like I said, I've never seen Disto's new drivers/patch/whatever, so I dunno what
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they do. Also, when I said get Ken Scales SASI drivers, I didn't know that
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minutes before, he was uploading new SCSI drivers. So you might wanna try them.
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My drivers are coming along. I highly recommend that you wait until mine are
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available before you do the format tho, so that you don't have to reformat to
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get an extra few meg (dunno why Seagate used so #$%& much inter-sector control
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byte garbage). Also, you can bet your drive will already be preformatted for
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512, so you won't even have to use a single RuSty-DOS formatter program. And
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there is one other hitch.
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I highly suspect that the ST296N can only handle 512-byte sectors. In this whole
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SCSI debate on the forum, I have an extra card in my favor. There's a guy in my
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department at work who is the SCSI drive expert/ hacker/purchaser for my
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company, Northern Telecom/BNR, a $6BillionUS/yr Canadian telecommuncations
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company. I will check his vast library of product manuals and SCSI specs to
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find out for sure, but my suspicion is that only the 125N, 138N and 157N can do
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256. I got talking to this guy about this once and he said the only reason they
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added to 256 support to SOME drives was for the retro-fit market, to replace
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dying competitors' drives. Hardly any new computers/systems/whatever these days
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use 256 byte sectors. The 225N and 251N have also been upgraded to 256 sector
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capability. These are older 5.25" drives, while the others above are 3.5".
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Originally none of these drives supported 256. The manual I have at home only
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talks about the 125N, 138N and 157N.
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Another reason I am led to believe that the 296N won't work is recent messages
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on the forum by XLIONX that he can't get his friend's 296N to work. If the
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RuSty-DOS format program tells it 256 bytes, & the the 296N doesn't like it, it
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dies. But in all, I am not *totally* sure that the 296N cannot handle 256, so
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don't take my word for it unless I find out for sure. As far as I know, Ken
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Scales is not planning 512 support. He basically wrote his drivers to get a
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friend's SASI system up and running, and Disto's drivers weren't so hot. I am
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writing mine to help get my new hard drive, which I got free but is 512-only, up
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& running. I've got over 90 megs riding on these drivers. And having access to
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a mountain of SCSI docs like me sure helps!
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Also, I sure hope you didn't get suckered into getting an IBM SCSI controller to
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go with your 296N-- you don't need it, and you can't even use it. Some dealers
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in Computer Shopper sell IBM package deals as opposed to just the drive, so you
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gotta watch out. The Disto or any other SCSI controller plugs right into the
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drive. That's what I like about embedded SCSI... a minimum of cables and cards
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to get it the way and soak up power supply juice.
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And since you ETA is 2-3 weeks, sit tight. I'll see what I can do to get my 512
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byte drivers uploaded by then. Note that I will not be able to logon to Delphi
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from Aug 30 - Sep 10, as I will be moving. I also won't be working in Ottawa
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anymore, so I won't be able to consult Northern Telecom's SCSI oracle, either.
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One way or the other your 296N will be up and running in no time.
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- Matthew Thompson
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31374 19-AUG 13:38 General Information
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RE: SCSI HD (Re: Msg 31364)
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From: MATTSINGER To: MATHOMPSON
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Just wanted to make sure that I don't buy the card if I don't need it. Well,
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TTYL! Thanks!
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31409 21-AUG 00:59 General Information
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RE: SCSI HD (Re: Msg 31364)
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From: 07ESRTIMOTHY To: MATHOMPSON
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How about ESDI drivers. I have 2 327 meg esdi drives and two esdi scsi to esdi
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controlers. Also how about drivers for a 60 meg 1/4 inch tape drive with scsi
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controler. Are they a lot different than what we have been talking about? Is
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it possible to partition disks like have a discriptor for h0a, and h0b being
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able to format each seperatly have there fat table etc?
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If you need hardware specifics let me know.
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Thanks
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Tim Fadden
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End of Thread.
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31350 18-AUG 21:24 Utilities
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RE: help (Re: Msg 31336)
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From: DCJR To: ROYBUR
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Roy, I use HDKit for backing up my hard drive, and I would highly recommend
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getting the "ReBack" utility also. This is a Basic09 program that acts as an
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interface for the HDKit utils and takes a lot of the pain out of using them. The
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command lines for HDKit can be just a wee bit abstruse at times...
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DCJR (Doug James)
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31351 18-AUG 22:26 Utilities
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RE: help (Re: Msg 31350)
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From: ROYBUR To: DCJR
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Thanks a lot, Doug - for both the tips. I'll have to wait 'til I can get off
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this 'other' computer (and I use the term loosely :) ) to get hdkit, etc.
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downloaded. But get it I shall!
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thanx again
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Roy
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End of Thread.
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31352 18-AUG 22:28 Device Drivers
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RE: New DIsto Driver (Re: Msg 31320)
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From: XLIONX To: KSCALES
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Howdy Ken,
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I am helping (trying) a friend with a ST296N (manufactured this or last year)
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and a second hand DISTO 4in1 system. The docs were crashed but another friend
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had a set of originals. The drive came formatted with 512 bytes per sector and
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a spec sheet with ZERO defects! The question I have is: Can this drive be
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formatted for 256 bytes/sector and can the RSDOS low-level format be patched (or
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edited) to work with this drive.
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A call was placed to CRC/DISTO and they said "Oh, yes this should work fine".
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Was there another revision of software released for the larger drives? Where can
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I get a copy FAST? When do you forsee a patched driver (or new) for the 512
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byte/sector format? (from you or MATHOMPSON (spell?))
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Thanks -Mark W. Farrell (PegaSystems) -XLIONX (DELPHI) -SIGOp ProSIG (Pinball
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Haven RiBBS v2.0 (708)428-8445) -mwf@SANDV
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31363 19-AUG 04:00 Device Drivers
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RE: New DIsto Driver (Re: Msg 31352)
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From: MATHOMPSON To: XLIONX
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Hi Mike,
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I think I can help you more with your problem than Ken Scales (Ken would agree,
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I am sure :-) or Disto. In the last week I've created alot of noise on the
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forum with my SCSI experiences, and one thing that I have tried to point out to
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people is the 256/512 byte sector dilemma. If you haven't read all the forum
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messages from the last week carefully, you might wanna check all messages
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from/to MATTSINGER, KSCALES, COLINMACKAY, ANTNIE and myself from the last week
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or so to get a complete lowdown on the subject. I recommend this for anybody who
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hasn't already done so and is considering hard drives. As for your 296N
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problem, see my reply to MATTSINGER which follows this message. It should
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answer some of your questions. If you have a Seagate N-Series drive you should
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wait for my 512 drivers anyways. Becuase the real advantage of 512 on a Seagate
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N is MANY MORE MEGS of storage (the full 80-odd meg) as opposed to an
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inefficient 256 (oh, say 75 or so). This is assuming the 296N even works at
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256... which I doubt. See the following message. Good luck...
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- Matthew Thompson Ottawa Canada
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31365 19-AUG 04:01 Device Drivers
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RE: New DIsto Driver (Re: Msg 31319)
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From: MATHOMPSON To: KSCALES
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Hi Ken,
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Private business: Yes I am getting a PIN so I can dial in. Would like to get
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your 3270 emu plus kermit xfer prog, assuming you get it working. I just found
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a few meg of gif & mac gfx files on the token ring... wouldn't wanna bog you
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with 'em, so will do 'em myself. May try xfer from my Apollo if I can find an
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xym-type cmd.
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Delphi business: 1) Open mouth 2) Insert foot. I guess you just uploaded your
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SCSI drivers as I was recommending people to get your SASI <blush>.
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In case you forumers aren't aware, Ken Scales SASI/SCSI drivers is a culmination
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of what has to be the ultimate helping-to-get-a-fellow-OS9er's- hard-drive-
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system-up-and-running story that you'll probably ever know. He slaved untold of
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hundreds hours and late nites trying to get a friend's SASI system up and
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running. He eventually gave up on all available SASI drivers and wrote his own,
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and has uploaded them here. It is the product of two years of head banging and
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wild goose chases, trying to get this elusive system working. So you really
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gotta give him credit for these drivers. He had no other reason to write them
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except to help this guy out. Now this guy is buying my SC-II/4-in-1 when I get
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my MM/1, and I'LL have to support his drive system. Ken, HHHHEEEELLLLPPPP!!!!
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You know who :=]
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31430 22-AUG 01:36 Device Drivers
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RE: New DIsto Driver (Re: Msg 31352)
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From: KSCALES To: XLIONX
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Mark -
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By now you have probably read Matthew Thompson's msg #31363, which identifies
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our main worry about the ST296N drive -- we aren't sure if the controller
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firmware has support for 256-byte sectors. Matt was going to try to check his
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available docs to see if support was documented. But as he implied in his msg,
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this capability was being retrofitted into selected Seagate drives, so might
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only be mentioned in the very latest docs.
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Might be that the only way to get the definitive answer, is for you to just try
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it out. If so, either the ST225N or ST157N formatter should do the job with
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some bug fixes (MPI slot selection if you use an MPI, and addition of a timeout
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following the SCSI bus reset -- see my msg #31321 to ANTNIE for details). For
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optimum performance, a minor change is needed for the interleave factor
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[variable C(5) in line 65].
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ASSUMING that the ST296N CAN be formatted for 256-byte sectors, we still don't
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know a couple of very important things:
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- how many sectors/track result? If docs don't tell us, we will have to
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create a program to query the drive itself for this info.
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- what is the optimum interleave factor [variable C(5)]? This may require
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some very tedious trial-and-error work on your part.
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So... the big question is... How quickly do you want to get this drive up and
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running? Can you wait for Matt to complete his driver, or do you want to get it
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working sooner (meaning 256-byte sectors)?
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... / Ken
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PS - By the way, I have NO plans to add 512-byte support to my version of the
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drivers. This is Matt's project, and he is in a better position to tackle this
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one, since he has all the necessary hardware. Incidentally, we are NOT working
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in isolation -- we are friends, and currently work for the same employer.
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Though sometimes he doesn't listen to me as much as he should <grin>.
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31443 22-AUG 03:11 Device Drivers
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RE: New DIsto Driver (Re: Msg 31352)
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From: AJMLFCO To: XLIONX
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can say for sure that you can use a ST296N drive under OS9 with 256 byte
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sectors. I have spent the time to re-write the Disto program to properly work
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with ST157N and ST296N drives. I am talking about the RS-basic formatter, not
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the OS9 drivers. I will ask Disto's permission to put the corrected code here
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in the forum. I am eagerly awaiting better SCSI drivers. I think those are
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already posted here. I have two ST157N's and my friend Mark Johnson has the
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ST296N. Mark is the sysop of Columbia Heights BBS at 206-425-5804 2400bd 24hrs.
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Fidonet 105/641. Allen Morgan
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31451 22-AUG 23:18 Device Drivers
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RE: New DIsto Driver (Re: Msg 31430)
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From: XLIONX To: KSCALES
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Howdy Ken,
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just logged on to leave you a message and you have one for me! Well things are
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looking MUCH better as I have talked to Tony (DISTO) and CRC. The ST296N WILL
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handle 256/512/1024 bytes per sector. (WHEW) We have installed your SCSI patch
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and are holding you responsible for the thing suddenly starting to....WORK!!!
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THANKS. What we had here was a failure to communicate! (The drive and I <grin>)
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What Tony said (and it seems to be working) is that since the drive works by LSN
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alone, the only reason you need the info in the descriptor (H/C/S) is to develop
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the correct (usualy less than the drive capacity) size of the sector allocation
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table starting at LSN1. Otherwise, since we don't give the drive any of this
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info for normal use, all we have to make sure of is that Heads x Cyl x
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Sect_Track x Bytes_Sector = 75Mb (approx size of ST296N fmtd).
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Our main problem is/was that we have a copy of the initial release for the SC-II
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and the 4in1 board and we are probably missing some DOCS. Tony says that the
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most current DISTO 'ware is dated Dec 28, 89. The dates on some of the files on
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these disks date to April, 87?!?!?!?!? (OOPS)
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Well thanks from Jeff Chapin (Tangerine) and I (XLIONX) for the help and the
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driver patch.
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-Mark W. Farrell (PegaSystems) -XLIONX (DELPHI) -SIGOp ProSIG (Pinball Haven
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(708) 428-8445) -mwf@SANDV
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p.s. Our first attempt will use the built in ILV and STP. CYL=820 SCT=60 TOS=60
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SAS=16 SID=6
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We will give you an update after we load software.
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End of Thread.
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31353 18-AUG 22:37 Device Drivers
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SCSI the universe and everything
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From: XLIONX To: DISTO
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Howdy Tony,
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Hey, are you aware of a method to make a Segate ST296N work with a 4in1 system?
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We are trying to get the system to work (second hand 4in1 (old I think)) and
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have no way so far to low-level format the system. What should we do guy???
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I will call CRC on monday morning to ask for myself...mabey we need some new
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software or something?!?!?! Mabey there is a trick to it that is on a page that
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is missing?
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Thanks for any hael you can offer!!! :-) (That's help BTW) -Mark W. Farrell
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(PegaSystems) -XLIONX (DELPHI) -SIGOp ProSIG (Pinball Haven RiBBS v2.0
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(708)428-8445) -mwf@SANDV
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31354 19-AUG 03:30 General Information
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RE: UUCP port (Re: Msg 31277)
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From: EDDIEKUNS To: THEFERRET
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The "%" signs mean something like "gateway" to the internet, I believe. ie:
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Something like name%mts@itsgw.rpi.edu means the address itsgw.rpi.edu is a
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gateway that has access to the machine mts.
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Eddie
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31355 19-AUG 03:31 Programmers Den
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RE: MM1 & C (Re: Msg 31279)
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From: EDDIEKUNS To: ALPHASOFT
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Does anyone know if the MM/1 will come with a debugger? I'm hoping to be able
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to debug C, of course! (I wonder if Microware sells a debugger, or if it comes
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as part of the C package?)
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Eddie
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31366 19-AUG 04:13 Programmers Den
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RE: MM1 & C (Re: Msg 31355)
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From: THEFERRET To: EDDIEKUNS
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I don't think it comes with a "real" debugger. it may come with the 68000
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debug, but that'S about it, I think. What were you expecting, Saber-C ? :-)
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31379 19-AUG 16:55 Programmers Den
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RE: MM1 & C (Re: Msg 31366)
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From: GREGL To: EDDIEKUNS (NR)
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Microware does have a C source debugger if you are willing to pay $695 for
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it. But what else did you expect from Microware besides exhorbatant prices.
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Sometimes it really makes me sick, especially considering that you can get a
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professional development system for MS-DOS for $150 - including ANSI C and C++
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compiler, assembler, source debugger, and profiler. And if the 6809 C compiler
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from Microware reflects their workmanship, I wouldn't expect the 68000 C
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compiler to be any better. We all know the defects in the 6809 compiler and from
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looking at the source, I'd say it was thrown together in the course of two weeks
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and shipped out the door. And as for getting it fixed, I've come to the
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conclusion that a total rewrite is the only way to fix it.
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Hopefully Microware has more heart in the 68000 products and is willing to
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put in the time and energy to deliver a working product that is, for all intents
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and purposes, without bugs. If not, perhaps Microware can take lessons from
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their early days when they had the drive and determination to be the best they
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could be.
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-- Greg
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31404 20-AUG 23:16 Programmers Den
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RE: MM1 & C (Re: Msg 31379)
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From: ALPHASOFT To: GREGL
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Hopefully Microware will make a special cheapie version of their debugger for us
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small time users. I wish they would go after the mass market insteppOad of the
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high end market. I've seen companies produce cheapie versions of their software
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for different markets (Microsoft C/QuickC $595/$99).
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If Microware doesn't come through, maybe we can make one of our own? I have put
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some thought into this. A simple way to get at least source
|
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could be implemented as follows
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Have the compiler output assembler code with the source code in comments (theres
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an option for that). Read in the assembler code, and stick SWI statements after
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every comment line (code). A special Cstart could then be written that
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processed the SWI calls and output proper lines of code.
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I'm sure there would be some things to work out, but this might get us at least
|
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a source level stepper (not a real debugger).
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If anyone else has comments, let me know!
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Keith.
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31422 21-AUG 21:10 Programmers Den
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RE: MM1 & C (Re: Msg 31404)
|
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From: GREGL To: ALPHASOFT
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I understand what you are trying to get at but I do have some disagreement. In
|
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the specific case of Microsoft C and Quick C, the end result is an overpriced C
|
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compiler with a cheap debugger and a torn-down version of a Quick C compiler.
|
|
Granted, some people think Microsoft Quick C is the best thing since sliced
|
|
bread but I disagree. Especially considering that you can purchase Turbo C++
|
|
Professional for $150 which is both an ANSI C compiler and an AT&T C++ compiler
|
|
with a debugger that supports 386-protected mode and 286-protected mode along
|
|
with a source profiler. Of course that means real hardware breakpoints on the
|
|
386 - yeah, it took Intel that long to add hardware breakpoints. I think all of
|
|
the 68000-series has hardware breakpoint registers. Hooray Motorola! <grin>
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It's too bad that Borland is marketing to a wider end-user market and Microware
|
|
is marketing to a narrow industrial market. That means Borland can maintain a
|
|
nice profit margin by selling large quantities of its products whereas
|
|
Microware's products gather dust on the shelves. Maybe, finally after all these
|
|
years, OS-9 will come out of the closet and give all of us the luxury of
|
|
marketing to a vast number of end-users. Sheesh, these guys on MS-DOS systems
|
|
think being able to hot-key into Sidekick from another application is real
|
|
multitasking. They haven't seen anything yet - like compiling huge amounts of
|
|
source code while downloading files from Delphi and editing other files
|
|
simultaneously. Even Microsoft Windows can't do that without an extremely fast
|
|
processor with gigabytes of memory and disk space.
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-- Greg
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|
31428 22-AUG 00:40 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: MM1 & C (Re: Msg 31366)
|
|
From: EDDIEKUNS To: THEFERRET
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|
|
|
Hehehe. Well, something like Turbo's debugger would have been really nice. :)
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Eddie
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|
|
P.S. Hey, I'd be overjoyed even with something as primitive as UNIX's
|
|
debuggers! :)
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|
31437 22-AUG 02:05 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: MM1 & C (Re: Msg 31428)
|
|
From: THEFERRET To: EDDIEKUNS (NR)
|
|
|
|
"I'd be happy with something as primitive as UNIX's debuggers" Actually, I was
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|
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|
referring to OUR primitive debugger in the developer's pak (Which is the same
|
|
debug that was released with os9 Level I, I believe!!!)
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End of Thread.
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31356 19-AUG 03:36 General Information
|
|
RE: Tetris (Re: Msg 31114)
|
|
From: BRIANWHITE To: DODGECOLT
|
|
|
|
Mike,
|
|
|
|
Okay, it was just an idea. I played Tetris once in an arcade and a couple of
|
|
times on an IBM-PC (both PD and original version) and I always remember being
|
|
able to move a block until it tried to move over an existing block, not only
|
|
until it touched an e xisting block. I'm not very experienced with Tetris
|
|
either (getting better every day -- now have a score over 1000!!!), but that is
|
|
what I remember. What do other people say?
|
|
|
|
Have you seen the take-offs on Tetris? One was called something like "Those
|
|
Darned Columns" and involved matching rows/columns/diagonals of the same color.
|
|
All of the pieces came in multi colors. I can give you more info if you are
|
|
interested. By far
|
|
the most interesting was 3-D Tetris. Now that is a challenge!
|
|
|
|
Brian
|
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|
|
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|
31375 19-AUG 14:05 General Information
|
|
RE: Tetris (Re: Msg 31356)
|
|
From: DODGECOLT To: BRIANWHITE (NR)
|
|
|
|
The only takeoff from Tetris I have seen was 3-D tetris. Yea, that did look
|
|
REALLY nice, tho I don't know if I could get the graphics smooth enough. Sure,
|
|
you can send me info about any of the takeoffs, but knowing me I probably won't
|
|
get to it until next year... :)
|
|
-Mike
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End of Thread.
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|
31357 19-AUG 03:36 General Information
|
|
RE: GFX2 & MM/1 (Re: Msg 31123)
|
|
From: BRIANWHITE To: GREGL
|
|
|
|
Greg,
|
|
|
|
The OS-9 file descriptors aren't that bad... They could have been done like
|
|
RS-DOS! Still, they could use improvement. I was just trying to think of a way
|
|
|
|
to expand them without losing any real compatability.
|
|
|
|
Brian
|
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|
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|
|
31378 19-AUG 16:12 General Information
|
|
RE: GFX2 & MM/1 (Re: Msg 31357)
|
|
From: GREGL To: BRIANWHITE (NR)
|
|
|
|
I agree for the most part. When OS-9 Level I, the file descriptors were perfect
|
|
- or nearly so. But with more powerful systems and mega-mega hard drives, it is
|
|
obvious that it could use some help. What you may be missing is that it does
|
|
have to be totally incompatible. After all, RBF is the guru handling the file
|
|
descriptors and who's to say that you can't have two RBF's sitting in memory.
|
|
For example, Old_RBF and its floppy driver and descriptor could handle
|
|
compatibility with older systems while RBF and its hard/floppy drivers and
|
|
descriptors handle the new stuff. The first step would be to back up the hard
|
|
drive and install the new RBF and old_RBF simultaneously; reformat the hard
|
|
drive and restore using old_RBF from floppies. The only time you would need to
|
|
use old_RBF after this would be to copy files from outmoded floppies. The only
|
|
problem is that it isn't this clean. old_RBF could fake the new stuff to return
|
|
to the kernel to help with the conversion. But you can't make everybody use it.
|
|
<sigh>
|
|
|
|
-- Greg
|
|
|
|
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|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
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|
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|
|
|
31358 19-AUG 03:37 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: Speeding up the coco3 (Re: Msg 31134)
|
|
From: BRIANWHITE To: DSRTFOX (NR)
|
|
|
|
Send that last message to MATHOMPSON. He designed something like that and could
|
|
|
|
give you more info.
|
|
|
|
Brian
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
31359 19-AUG 03:37 General Information
|
|
RE: Alias (Re: Msg 31245)
|
|
From: BRIANWHITE To: TIMKIENTZLE
|
|
|
|
Tim,
|
|
|
|
Yeah, I was thinking about the UNiX dot convention for hiding files, too. It
|
|
was one of the reasons why I said that those two flags were both pretty useless.
|
|
|
|
One idea for an extra byte could be last-modified "seconds". That would keep
|
|
make from re-compiling/assembling files that had their source and output written
|
|
|
|
within the same minute.
|
|
|
|
Do you write your milti-megabyte files as a background task while you do disk
|
|
access in the foreground? OS-9 should simply extend the last segment most of
|
|
the time, unless you have two or more process that are leap-frogging.
|
|
|
|
Brian
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
31394 20-AUG 10:10 General Information
|
|
RE: Alias (Re: Msg 31359)
|
|
From: TIMKIENTZLE To: BRIANWHITE (NR)
|
|
|
|
No, Brian, these files were written while nothing else was running. The reason
|
|
they got so badly fragmented was that OS9 couldn't simply extend the last
|
|
segment. My hard disk is large, and I've been running it for almost two years,
|
|
so there are lots of holes in the allocation. Since the output was from a pipe,
|
|
there's no preextension, so OS9 just tries to allocate segments as large as the
|
|
current SAS setting. This setting is normally 32, and there are LOTS of
|
|
32-sector holes in my disk structure. Setting SAS to 255 keeps OS9 from
|
|
allocating segments in those smaller holes.
|
|
The only (temporary) fix is to defragment my hard disk. Ugh. And even with
|
|
that, it will eventually get this bad anyway. You see the problem?
|
|
- Tim
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
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|
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|
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|
|
31360 19-AUG 03:37 Telcom
|
|
RE: remote login question (Re: Msg 31214)
|
|
From: BRIANWHITE To: ZACKSESSIONS
|
|
|
|
Zack,
|
|
|
|
I got a suggestion for your login problem. Since login will pass parameters to
|
|
a program when it starts it, why not change the last part of the password file
|
|
to be:
|
|
...,shell p="What Now? " i=/1
|
|
|
|
Note: I also discovered that if you were to put a program name in the above
|
|
parameter list, the immortal shell would run that program and then send it's
|
|
prompt to "/1" when finished. (Shell+ v2.1)
|
|
|
|
Brian
|
|
|
|
-*-
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|
|
31372 19-AUG 11:35 Telcom
|
|
RE: remote login question (Re: Msg 31360)
|
|
From: ZACKSESSIONS To: BRIANWHITE (NR)
|
|
|
|
Actually, a previous responder supplied me with the solution. It was to patch
|
|
the binary with the string "What now? " INCLUDING the quotes. This works in
|
|
window devices and for device /t2.
|
|
|
|
Zack
|
|
|
|
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|
|
31396 20-AUG 10:21 Telcom
|
|
RE: remote login question (Re: Msg 31360)
|
|
From: TIMKIENTZLE To: BRIANWHITE (NR)
|
|
|
|
Brian,
|
|
Care to try your comment about putting a program name as part of the shell?
|
|
I couldn't get it to work here. Just curious, since your comment doesn't quite
|
|
|
|
match my impression of how the shell handles certain things.
|
|
- Tim
|
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|
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|
|
End of Thread.
|
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|
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|
|
31361 19-AUG 03:37 General Information
|
|
SCSI Driver Speed
|
|
From: BRIANWHITE To: COLINMCKAY
|
|
|
|
Colin,
|
|
|
|
Watch what you say about SCSI! I personally re-wrote Roger's SCSI drivers (the
|
|
same ones that Matthew uses) to be capable of moving 1 MB of data in under 14.5
|
|
seconds (no-halt, no-IRQ-mask, of course) and its hard to see how how any data
|
|
transfer loop f or any controller could be much smaller/faster! TOP THAT!!!
|
|
SCSI, however, is capable of handling up to 4MB per second in its transfer rate,
|
|
|
|
though few drives around the CoCo users price range go above 1MB per second.
|
|
The speed slowdown is not SCSI, n or is it the SCSI controller on the computer.
|
|
As far as Matt and I have been able to tell, the biggest slowdown for our drives
|
|
|
|
is the interleave factor when used with the CoCo's inefficient RBFMan. We have
|
|
not bothered to optimize that...yet. Matt can
|
|
give more info on the actual drive because he has the tech-specs on it. It is
|
|
most difinitely not SCSI that is the speed factor here.
|
|
|
|
Brian
|
|
|
|
P.S. Don't forget that SCSI is far more portable than anything else, including
|
|
access to most all computer brands. It also has such wonderful things as 800MB
|
|
optical WORM drives and upcoming THOR-CD's -- Writable, Eraseable, Readable
|
|
600MB storage! Ai n't SCSI grand...
|
|
|
|
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|
31390 20-AUG 02:45 General Information
|
|
RE: SCSI Driver Speed (Re: Msg 31361)
|
|
From: THEFERRET To: BRIANWHITE (NR)
|
|
|
|
"the problem is the interleave factor" ??? I presume you know that you can
|
|
change the interleave factor when formatting any new volume. What I suppose you
|
|
|
|
mean is that RBFman cannot COPE with close interleaving ?
|
|
Philip
|
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End of Thread.
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31362 19-AUG 03:38 General Information
|
|
Message Replies
|
|
From: BRIANWHITE To: KSCALES
|
|
|
|
Ken,
|
|
|
|
Whatsa matter Ken? Never sure if the people you send mail to have read your
|
|
message because they never reply back? Hmmm... Seems to me (and Matt) that
|
|
there was some other "KS" guy here on Delphi who did something like that...
|
|
|
|
Brian
|
|
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|
31367 19-AUG 07:18 Utilities
|
|
rssave
|
|
From: WB4GCS To: ZACKSESSIONS
|
|
|
|
Zack Just got a look at rssave --- SUPER! One thought -- how about a pcsave
|
|
version using pcdos??? I'm going to attempt to patch the source code, but you
|
|
could probably do better since you wrote the original code. I have a great use
|
|
for a pcdos version. 73, Jim wb4gcs
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|
31373 19-AUG 11:38 Utilities
|
|
RE: rssave (Re: Msg 31367)
|
|
From: ZACKSESSIONS To: WB4GCS
|
|
|
|
Simply patching to use PCDos instead of RSDos will not do it. You will also have
|
|
|
|
to modify the interpetation of the directory output for MS-DOS. I will look into
|
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|
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it, though. Good suggestion!
|
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|
Zack
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31398 20-AUG 19:11 Utilities
|
|
RE: rssave (Re: Msg 31373)
|
|
From: WB4GCS To: ZACKSESSIONS
|
|
|
|
Zack Yes, I knew that directory interpretation would be required...working on
|
|
it. If I get it done before I hear from you, I'll send you the changes...also
|
|
considering removing the hardcoding of the RSDOS device ...it's not clear to me
|
|
why that was necessary. Anyway, will keep u advised. tnx & 73! Jim
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31403 20-AUG 23:11 Utilities
|
|
RE: rssave (Re: Msg 31398)
|
|
From: ZACKSESSIONS To: WB4GCS
|
|
|
|
73, huh? Should've known from your "handle" that you were a HAM! Hardcoding of
|
|
the RSDOS device? Hmm, I guess you mean forcing it to be /d0? I felt that that
|
|
/d0 would be the most common device name for this application, and anyone who
|
|
want to change it only had to patch one location. I didn't want to have users to
|
|
|
|
have to enter it every time, since this device, once established should never
|
|
change. Keep me informed on the progress!
|
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|
Zack
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31420 21-AUG 20:52 Utilities
|
|
RE: rssave (Re: Msg 31403)
|
|
From: GREGL To: ZACKSESSIONS
|
|
|
|
Perhaps in most cases the device used by RSDOS will never change, but certainly
|
|
not in all cases. The device I use will either be /F0 or /F1, depending on
|
|
whether I am transferring files from 3.5 or 5.25 inch disks. But even with all
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the hoopla about hard-coding device names, I can understand why you made the
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decision. After all, I use 3.5 inch disks with RSDOS about once a blue moon, if
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that often. And storing something as trivial as that in a configuration file
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seems like a such a waste of disk space.
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-- Greg
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31427 21-AUG 23:22 Utilities
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RE: rssave (Re: Msg 31420)
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From: ZACKSESSIONS To: GREGL
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The big diff between your system and mine is that you call your floppy drives
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/Fn where I call mine /dn. The reference to /d0 is a constant so a simple dEd
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patch will fix it up, and knowing you, a simple re-edit of the source with a
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re-compile could fix ya up.
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Zack
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End of Thread.
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31369 19-AUG 08:27 General Information
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Tymnet
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From: JTHUIRER To: ALL
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Is there any special setup required for 2400 baud operation on Tymnet? On a non
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stop read of forum mesages the down load stops after about a minute. Will
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restart with break key, but that is a pain.
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No such problem using Telenet. With new pricing I want to change to Tymnet. By
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the way the terminal program is Wizpro. Never had any problems before. Any help
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will be appreciated.
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John
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31391 20-AUG 02:52 General Information
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RE: Tymnet (Re: Msg 31369)
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From: THEFERRET To: JTHUIRER (NR)
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I use tymnet ALL the time, at 2400 baud, and I don't have any problems with non-
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stop stuff. If it'S just the form, may be it'S something to do with your DELPHI
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setup or something. Tried downloading long files?
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End of Thread.
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31370 19-AUG 10:46 Utilities
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Copy.ar
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From: PAULRINEAR To: ALL
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Hi,
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I am having alot of trouble with COPY.AR that was
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downloaded from here. It works fine until you try to do
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a multiple file copy with wild cards, for example:
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OS9::copy #40k /d0/lib/* -w=/r0
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returns ERROR 216 can't copy /d0/lib/clib.l
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OS9::copy #40k /d0/lib/*.* -w=/r0
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returns the help menu ??
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Sometimes, it works and will copy multiple files.
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Usually when I first boot and haven't done very much else.
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Any ideas?
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PAULRINEAR
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31393 20-AUG 03:46 Utilities
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RE: Copy.ar (Re: Msg 31370)
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From: KNOT1 To: PAULRINEAR
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Paul,
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Why not try my program, "cp"? :-) What? Plugging my own program? I don't know
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what you're talking about!
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Really. It does work well with multi-file copies, ect., and doesn't require a
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memory specifier (e.g. #40k). You can find it in the "new" database. I haven't
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used the other program, so, sorry that I can help you there.
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-Jamie (KNOT1)-
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31399 20-AUG 19:46 Utilities
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RE: Copy.ar (Re: Msg 31393)
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From: PAULRINEAR To: KNOT1
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I will download it and try it right now. Let you know how
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it works.
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Paul
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31441 22-AUG 02:43 Utilities
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RE: Copy.ar (Re: Msg 31399)
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From: KNOT1 To: PAULRINEAR
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Ok, Paul. Also, did you ever get that "Zenix" game? If so, how do you like it?
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-Jamie (KNOT1)-
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End of Thread.
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31371 19-AUG 10:55 General Information
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RE: Repeating keys (Re: Msg 31340)
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From: KINGTRENT To: TIMKIENTZLE
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No, the multi-pak is not upgraded, and yes, the IRQ line is disconnected. So now
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I might be talked into the mpak upgrade. Would be curious as to why it would
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have any effect (affect - where is that dictionary!). - Mike
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31395 20-AUG 10:13 General Information
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RE: Repeating keys (Re: Msg 31371)
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From: TIMKIENTZLE To: KINGTRENT (NR)
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The explanation I've heard is that the MPI upgrade keeps the MPI from responding
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when the CoCo accesses the GIME. Without the upgrade, the CoCo can't always
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correctly read the GIME registers. In particular, it (incorrectly) thinks that
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the interrupt used for keyboard scanning happens more often than it does. (i.e.
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whenever an interrupt happens, it checks to see what interrupt it was, and the
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MPI causes OS9 to beleive that it was a keyboard interrupt) Since the keyboard
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scan code assumes it gets called at fixed intervals, if it gets called more
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often, the key repeat counts get decremented too fast.
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Make sense?
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- Tim
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End of Thread.
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31376 19-AUG 15:41 General Information
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RE: Solid State Disk SRAM PACK (Re: Msg 31331)
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From: ADLSL To: SCG
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Tnx for Disco suggestion. I will check their catalog. They were not the vendor
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I remember however. It was a single product company that had a regular 1/8 page
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advertisement in Rainbow. The unit had built in battery backup and came with
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OS9 drivers.
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31380 19-AUG 16:58 General Information
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RE: 80 Track Drive (Re: Msg 31327)
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From: MPASSER To: DRDUDE (NR)
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Congrats on the hard drive acquisition, but I'm afraid that I know little to
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nothing about them, not having one myself. However, I am certain that you will
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be able to find plenty of competent people on the subject here in the forum.
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Mike Passer [MPASSER]
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31382 19-AUG 18:36 Telcom
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OSTerm
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From: PHILSCHERER To: ALL
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I use Osterm but I cant get it to backspace. Does any one have any ideas? All
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appreciated.
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31386 19-AUG 23:11 Telcom
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RE: OSTerm (Re: Msg 31382)
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From: ZACKSESSIONS To: PHILSCHERER
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Try a ^h (control H).
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31392 20-AUG 02:55 Telcom
|
|
RE: OSTerm (Re: Msg 31386)
|
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From: THEFERRET To: PHILSCHERER
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|
Some systems want a DELETE for a backspace character (many UNIX systems do).
|
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I do not believe OSterm supports delete (chr$ 127). However, KBcom in the
|
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database, DOES have delete.
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Philip
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P.S. if you want it for a UNIX system, all youse have to do is use "stty erase
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^H", the ^H being a "real" ^H, not a composite, as I just did here.
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31414 21-AUG 18:12 Telcom
|
|
RE: OSTerm (Re: Msg 31386)
|
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From: PHILSCHERER To: ZACKSESSIONS
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|
|
Hi Zack--I just tried what you said and it had no effect. Thanks for the reply.
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31416 21-AUG 18:14 Telcom
|
|
RE: OSTerm (Re: Msg 31392)
|
|
From: PHILSCHERER To: THEFERRET
|
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|
|
Thanks for the reply. Does KBcom have an ANSI option??
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31436 22-AUG 02:04 Telcom
|
|
RE: OSTerm (Re: Msg 31416)
|
|
From: THEFERRET To: PHILSCHERER (NR)
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|
Not quite sure about ANSI. VT100 usually is about the same thing, but without
|
|
color. It probably does, thou.
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31440 22-AUG 02:42 Telcom
|
|
RE: OSTerm (Re: Msg 31392)
|
|
From: KNOT1 To: THEFERRET
|
|
|
|
You can generate a DELETE character under OS-9 by pressing Ctrl-Simicolon ( ^;
|
|
). It would appear as an underscore on a text screen, as a shaded box on a
|
|
graphics screen. Thus, any OS-9 terminal program should be able to produce a
|
|
DELETE character.
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|
|
-Jamie (KNOT1)-
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|
31442 22-AUG 02:49 Telcom
|
|
RE: OSTerm (Re: Msg 31440)
|
|
From: THEFERRET To: KNOT1
|
|
|
|
Thank-You! IS that delete character actually in the manual, or is it just a
|
|
bizzare fact you stumbled upon?
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|
31456 23-AUG 01:07 Telcom
|
|
RE: OSTerm (Re: Msg 31442)
|
|
From: KNOT1 To: THEFERRET
|
|
|
|
Philip,
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|
|
|
I didn't find it in the manual myself, but it may be there. I believe I was
|
|
just trying every key combination I could, to see what characters were produced.
|
|
|
|
Produced a shaded box and wondered what character it was. Turned out to be the
|
|
DELETE character. Of course, this was AFTER I added a function to my terminal
|
|
program to send a DELETE character!
|
|
|
|
-Jamie (KNOT1)-
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|
31457 23-AUG 01:43 Telcom
|
|
RE: OSTerm (Re: Msg 31456)
|
|
From: THEFERRET To: KNOT1
|
|
|
|
Well, it IS nice to have delete as ONE key (say, the back arrow), instead of a
|
|
control key!
|
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|
|
Philip
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End of Thread.
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|
31383 19-AUG 22:27 General Information
|
|
SCSI ETC...
|
|
From: COLINMCKAY To: BRIANWHITE (NR)
|
|
|
|
Greetings, Brian!
|
|
|
|
Long-time-no-argue! I wasn't deliberately belittling SCSI, only most of
|
|
the implimentations that I have seen on the CoCo. Plan to get a SCSI
|
|
drive myself, just as soon as my MM/1 arrives.
|
|
|
|
Could you post a copy of your megaread program if it is different from
|
|
the version that Bruce Isted posted? Would be interesting to run it on
|
|
the Eliminator, and Ken's B&B system to make a legitimate speed
|
|
comparison. 14.5 seconds is amazing! But if you are using the version
|
|
that Ken gave you, watch out, as he had patched it for use on Bill's
|
|
drive to only read 1/4 meg. The CRC for the unmodified version of
|
|
MegaRead is $FE97D8.
|
|
|
|
Assuming that you were using the patched version, that would put your
|
|
speed at about 58 seconds. The Eliminator gives me a time of 41, though
|
|
I haven't played with interleave etc. pending arrival of the daughter-
|
|
board plans for the controller from Bruce Isted.
|
|
|
|
Got MVCanvas recently, pretty good program, especially considering that
|
|
it obeys all the rules. Not quite as fancy as CoCo Max, but it doesn't
|
|
take over the entire screen either.
|
|
|
|
Matt passed around a copy of your MIDI sound file spec at the last
|
|
meeting. Looks pretty complete, though we really didn't have much time
|
|
to look at them during the meeting.
|
|
|
|
Finally got my system completely repackaged in a PC case. Even has a
|
|
nameplate on the front -- KMA 09. Kinda neat, eh?
|
|
|
|
Not too much happening locally. You are aware of the fun Ken is having
|
|
with Bill's drive, and you've heard all about Matt's new drive. (Are
|
|
you green with envy too?) Hope you find a job locally during your next
|
|
work term, as you and Matt do help to keep the meetings interesting.
|
|
|
|
TTYL. Colin.
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|
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|
31384 19-AUG 22:29 General Information
|
|
Stuff
|
|
From: COLINMCKAY To: JENG
|
|
|
|
Jerry,
|
|
|
|
Yes, it looks like a few of us from Ottawa will be making the trek
|
|
down to Atlantafest, all in pursuit of the elusive MM/1. <Grin>
|
|
|
|
Thanks for the new (at least to me!) info on the GUI for the MM/1.
|
|
Also saw it mentioned by a guy named Mark Sheffield (who reportedly
|
|
works for IMS) that the machine will come with CoCo style windows,
|
|
with the GUI to arrive later, essentially the same way that the
|
|
CoCo 3 version of OS-9 level two did, with Multivue arriving at
|
|
a later date, and hopefully in much better shape.
|
|
|
|
I agree with your assessment of OSGateway. Looks like there is no
|
|
support planned initially, though some may arrive later. (PKW, any
|
|
comments?)
|
|
|
|
I suggested to GREGL that a conference be held online, with Frank
|
|
Hogg, Paul Ward and Kevin Darling be held here to discuss the new
|
|
machines. Also created a poll, so vote if you are interested.
|
|
|
|
So you're from Pincher Creek? Ken Scales (KSCALES) used to be in a
|
|
band that played there once. I guess they blinked the second time.
|
|
<GRIN!>
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|
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|
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|
|
31385 19-AUG 22:30 General Information
|
|
MM/1
|
|
From: COLINMCKAY To: PKW (NR)
|
|
|
|
Greetings, Paul
|
|
|
|
A lot of confusion has been cleared up during the past few weeks
|
|
with regards to the MM/1. Prices, details on some of the hardware
|
|
options, software and so on are starting to fall into place.
|
|
|
|
BTW, in message # 31286, you mentioned that Quick Basic is being
|
|
bundled with DOS 5.0. Better be careful that line doesn't get
|
|
misinterpreted as meaning the MM/1 comes with DOS...
|
|
|
|
I do see the problem that you had phrasing your ad to say that
|
|
DOS programs would be available.
|
|
|
|
What would be reasonable estimates for the availability of hardware
|
|
and software? I work at a project management office, so I know
|
|
the difference between what the supplier says, and when the equip-
|
|
ment actually starts arriving.
|
|
|
|
The MM/1 was most recently announced as shipping in mid-September.
|
|
Does this still hold true for the first units? When do you expect
|
|
to start shipping in quantity to end users?
|
|
|
|
When do you expect to start shipping the bus? How many slots will
|
|
it be? And what cards will be available?
|
|
|
|
Any estimates on when the Open Look clone will start shipping? How
|
|
about Quick Basic? Any other titles to announce yet? And their
|
|
shipping date?
|
|
|
|
Thanks. Colin.
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|
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|
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|
31387 20-AUG 01:33 General Information
|
|
RE: ROBOT ODYESSY I (Re: Msg 30719)
|
|
From: WAYNELAIRD To: OS9BERT
|
|
|
|
hmm can't think of a think of a thing, have you tried opening it in a graphics
|
|
window? 32X16? or are you sure that the changing of the execution directories is
|
|
|
|
the problems -wayne
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|
31429 22-AUG 01:16 General Information
|
|
RE: ROBOT ODYESSY I (Re: Msg 31387)
|
|
From: OS9BERT To: WAYNELAIRD (NR)
|
|
|
|
I did that already. But the original program changes the execution directory to
|
|
|
|
"/D0" which complicates things. I have disassembled the code and tried to patch
|
|
|
|
it to run on a hard drive with a path "/dd/misc/robot" but with only about half
|
|
of the code working.
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|
|
Bert
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-*-
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End of Thread.
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31388 20-AUG 01:48 General Information
|
|
RE: Copyrights (Re: Msg 31050)
|
|
From: WAYNELAIRD To: XLIONX
|
|
|
|
hi mark, not wanting to jump too far into this discussion but I thought I saw a
|
|
lawyer mention this about copyrights in an old rainbow issue. That if you buy
|
|
someones program, that you can change it to suit your personal desires but if
|
|
you sell that program to someone else then you have give all up all rights to
|
|
owning that program including any changed ones that you may have made. the law
|
|
currently says, I believe, that you can't change someones effort a litle and put
|
|
|
|
your name on it. Which I believe is what you had in mind. if you have old
|
|
rainbows check 'em out for that article. I belive there's currently
|
|
congressional discussions on copyrighting going on as to how to protect your
|
|
ideas. best, wayne
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|
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|
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|
31389 20-AUG 02:01 General Information
|
|
68K
|
|
From: ATRDES To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Does anyone know how compatible the file systems are between os9 6809 and osk?
|
|
I have several disks which I believe to be from osk systems but I cannot read
|
|
the file system. I have been able to t perform a sector by sector search of the
|
|
|
|
disks, but I would like to view the actual file system.
|
|
|
|
Is there a utility out there already? Does anyone have the info on how osk
|
|
differs from the os9 filesystem so I can write my own utility to do this?
|
|
|
|
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|
31397 20-AUG 10:29 General Information
|
|
RE: 68K (Re: Msg 31389)
|
|
From: TIMKIENTZLE To: ATRDES (NR)
|
|
|
|
I suspect you'll have to be more specific about _what_ OSk system they are from.
|
|
|
|
You see, OS9 (and OSk) have been around long enough on enough different hardware
|
|
|
|
that there are actually several different OS9 disk formats. Mostly, they differ
|
|
|
|
just in the number of tracks/sectors, and Universal" OS9 format which has a few
|
|
other changes. OS9 and OSk have (to my knowledge) always used the same basic
|
|
file structure, though there are differences in the physical formats used.
|
|
- Tim
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-*-
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|
End of Thread.
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|
31400 20-AUG 21:07 General Information
|
|
RE: WIZ (Re: Msg 30978)
|
|
From: OS9UGED To: KELLYH (NR)
|
|
|
|
Either remove ACIAPAK driver from your boot, or make **very** sure that it is
|
|
not being directly or indirectly INIZ'd. Also, make sure you are set for 7 bits
|
|
SPC parity.
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|
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|
31402 20-AUG 22:32 General Information
|
|
RE: 15 meg Tandy HD (Re: Msg 31297)
|
|
From: 6809ER To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
|
Yes, I still have a Tandy 15 meg hard drive with controler card. Send me some
|
|
Email and we will talk.
|
|
|
|
Steve, 6809er
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|
31405 20-AUG 23:38 Programmers Den
|
|
c wINDOWS
|
|
From: MFAHY To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I'm in the process of writing my own graphic editor for OS-9 using C. So far,
|
|
so good (although it's only the second C program I've (and fastest way) to copy
|
|
yet, to another window. I'd like to use such a routine as an 'UNDO' command
|
|
(What goods an editor without one?) Any suggestions???
|
|
|
|
Also, who can tell me what word processor to buy for OS-9? I'm tir of powering
|
|
down to use Telewriter in BASIC, but the people at Owl Ware don't seem to want
|
|
to sell Window Writer lately. Help!
|
|
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|
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|
|
31408 21-AUG 00:47 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: c wINDOWS (Re: Msg 31405)
|
|
From: TIMKIENTZLE To: MFAHY
|
|
|
|
Looks like part of your message got lost. Be careful to press <ENTER> at the
|
|
end of each screen line, or else stuff will get lost. As for Undo, the fastest
|
|
way is probably to just "GET" chunks of the screen. Should be able to get the
|
|
entire screen in just a few chunks, and fairly quickly at that. No need to mess
|
|
|
|
with another window at all. (Though I guess you could use two windows, and swap
|
|
between them... Hmmm..)
|
|
- Tim
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End of Thread.
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31406 20-AUG 23:42 Graphics & Music
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CGP COLOR DUMP
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From: MFAHY To: ALL
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Anyone interested in a color screen dump program for the CGP-220 anymore? I
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waited and waited for someone to make one, but I finally broke down and did it
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myself. Works great (All 64 colors displayed true), but could use a little
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refining. If you'd like, I could go ahead and upload it, or I could spend a
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little more time w ith (It just needs to be a little smaller, perhaps a little
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faster). It's written in C andoes what it's supposed to.
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31407 21-AUG 00:07 Graphics & Music
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RE: CGP COLOR DUMP (Re: Msg 31406)
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From: CBJ To: MFAHY
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Yes, by all means do upload it here. I have a CGP-220 and I'd love a copy. I
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feel there is never too much in our databases anyhow.
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---Carl---
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31415 21-AUG 18:13 Graphics & Music
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RE: CGP COLOR DUMP (Re: Msg 31406)
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From: ZACKSESSIONS To: MFAHY
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Since I just got a CGP-220, I'd be interested!
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31421 21-AUG 21:03 Graphics & Music
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RE: CGP COLOR DUMP (Re: Msg 31415)
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From: RAYMAYEUX To: MFAHY
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By all means upload it!
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End of Thread.
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31410 21-AUG 02:03 Programmers Den
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Walias
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From: TIMKIENTZLE To: ZACKSESSIONS
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Zack,
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Take a look at "walias" I just uploaded. I think you'll like it. <grin>
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- Tim
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31411 21-AUG 02:05 Telcom
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Automatic file type detection
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From: TIMKIENTZLE To: EDDIEKUNS (NR)
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Eddie,
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I did just yesterday find a file that XYDown guessed wrong on, so I made a
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change to the file type determination code. You can look at the source I just
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uploaded, but the general jist is that I added a check to make sure that any
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nulls or Ctrl-Z's are at the end of the tested section, before a file will be
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accepted as ASCII.
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- Tim
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31413 21-AUG 15:11 General Information
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Hard drive with 4-in-1
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From: RGRAHAM To: ALL
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I have a Seagate 157N SCSI drive I have hooked up with my Disto 4-in-1.
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Unfortunately I was unable to get the software off of it that should come on a
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small partition (I have a friend with an IBM who tried). Anyway, I couldn't
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figure out the basic logical format program, and don't know what to set the
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HMODE params to afterward. Can someone please help me with what to change in the
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BASIC program and what to set in the HMODE params.
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Thanx,
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RGRAHAM
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31417 21-AUG 20:23 General Information
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RE: EZGEN (Re: Msg 31381)
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From: BANDMAN To: ZACKSESSIONS
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Thanks...will check it out! ...Gary...
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31418 21-AUG 20:29 General Information
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MM/1
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From: COLINMCKAY To: ALL
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Well, found another piece of the puzzle...
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-------------------------------------------------------
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From: Kevin Darling
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DMA SCSI interface for the MM/1 on the second board is
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a WD 33C93. Any SCSI hard disk, or a regular hard drive
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with an Adaptec 4000A/4070 SCSI controller board should
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work.
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-------------------------------------------------------
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From Computer Shopper, March 1990, p391:
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4000 SCSI to ST506/412 $ 89
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4000A SCSI - ST506 $139
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4070 SCSI to ST506/412 RLL $119
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Also of note:
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4520 SCSI to ESDI $ 98
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5500 SCSI to ST506/412 $125
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5580 SCSI to SMD $175
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31419 21-AUG 20:34 Device Drivers
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RE: SASI on the 4in1 (Re: Msg 31099)
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From: DISTO To: XLIONX
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Mark, Ken answered your questions much better than I would have......Thanks
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Ken!!!! -Tony.
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31423 21-AUG 22:27 General Information
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UUCP
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From: RICKADAMS To: GREGL
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Well, I've been having fun with my uucp implementation.
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On Wednesday, August 15th, I posted my first direct message to Usenet. This is
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the first Usenet message ever to be posted directly from a Coco 3.
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This morning, I saw that my entry into the UUCP maps had been accepted and
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distributed world-wide. I am, at this point, the only Color Computer 3 in the
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entire world that is an officially registered UUCP site.
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Yeeee HAW!
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--Rick Adams ...!apple!fico2!ccentral!rickadams
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31425 21-AUG 22:50 Patches
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SCSI patch
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From: MATTSINGER To: KSCALES
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When you say that your patches to the SCSI drivers for the disto board help
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eliminate lost characters, does that mean that some are STILL lost? Will I lose
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keystokes also at some times? Also, will they work withjh the 2 in one board?
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(HD and RS-232 port?) Thanks!
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31433 22-AUG 01:51 Patches
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RE: SCSI patch (Re: Msg 31425)
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From: KSCALES To: MATTSINGER
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There are many factors that can contribute to lost characters, and my patch can
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only help with one aspect of this problem. Please read the doc file provided
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with my patch for further detail. My driver is optimized to try to ensure that
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it absolutely minimizes the number of characters lost from the serial port
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(especially at 4800 baud and lower... higher baud rates will also be improved.)
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All of the preceeding applies to received RS232 characters.
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In terms of keyboard keystrokes, my driver should completely eliminate any lost
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characters. Clarification -- completely eliminate any characters lost due to
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the Hard Disk drive, of course!!
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Regarding the 2-in-1 board -- I am not aware of anyone who has tried this
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configuration. I see no reason why it would not work, since the drivers are
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compatible with the Disto stand-alone HDI, as well as the 4-in-1. Unless Tony
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made some incompatible changes for the 2-in-1.
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... / Ken
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31446 22-AUG 19:16 Patches
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RE: SCSI patch (Re: Msg 31433)
|
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From: MATTSINGER To: KSCALES
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Thanks...just for some re-assurance in purchasing my hard drive, I am planning
|
|
to buy a ST157N. Can you give me a very short abbreviation of what I will be
|
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doing to get it up and running? <let's say I already have it hooked up and
|
|
ready> Thanks.
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31448 22-AUG 19:46 Patches
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RE: SCSI patch (Re: Msg 31425)
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From: ROYBUR To: MATTSINGER
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Don't know about the SCSI patches, but I used the SASI patches with my 2-in-1
|
|
DISTO board and it seems just fine - but it looks like I may need to re-format
|
|
the thing, though for OTHER reasons.
|
|
Other reasons.
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(I think I just screwed that up - hope it's still readable!) BTW, in order to
|
|
get my rs232 port to work (it's IN the SC2) I had to place jumper J3 in the
|
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alternate memory map location. Is that also true for you, or do I have an odd
|
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one here?
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Roy
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31450 22-AUG 20:06 Patches
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RE: SCSI patch (Re: Msg 31448)
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From: MATTSINGER To: ROYBUR
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I don't have the board yet, but as I think, I may get the 4-in-1 at the last
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minute. Tell me something though, does the 2in1 extend OVER the rom socket?
|
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i.e. I want to put a smartwatch in there.
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End of Thread.
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31426 21-AUG 23:11 Programmers Den
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WALIAS
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|
From: XLIONX To: TIMKOONCE (NR)
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Hey Tim (couldn't remember how to spell your new alias <grin>)!!!
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31431 22-AUG 01:47 General Information
|
|
Choose
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From: REVWCP To: STEVECLARK (NR)
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I d/l your choose program and I have a few questions. I cannot get it to work
|
|
when the hires adapter is plugged in. You mentioned a set of fonts, are they
|
|
available for downloading? I am new to OS9 and really don't have a very good
|
|
grasp of it, but I liked your program and I think it will be something I can add
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to. Thank you. Brother Jeremy, CSJW (I am a monk in the Episcopal Church if you
|
|
wonder what the initials stand for. My order is the Community of St. Jospeh the
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|
Worker.)
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31432 22-AUG 01:50 General Information
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MAX10
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|
From: REVWCP To: ALL
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|
How many of you would like to see a MAX10 type of word processor to run under
|
|
OS9. Lets have a poll. If their is enough interest, perhaps it would be
|
|
commercially feasible to develope. Or, it might be a good group programming
|
|
project. Perhaps this could be posted as a Letter to the Editor in Rainbow. Lets
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see what happens. Br. Jeremy, CSJW.
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31454 23-AUG 00:27 General Information
|
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RE: MAX10 (Re: Msg 31432)
|
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From: IVANSC To: REVWCP
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|
I for one would LOVE to see DTP on OS9!
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31455 23-AUG 00:37 General Information
|
|
RE: MAX10 (Re: Msg 31454)
|
|
From: REVWCP To: IVANSC (NR)
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|
Good, lets make our voices heard. Maybe Dave Stampe could rewrite MAX10 or
|
|
allowthe code to be changed by someone who can program in OS(.
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31458 23-AUG 01:48 General Information
|
|
RE: MAX10 (Re: Msg 31454)
|
|
From: MFAHY To: IVANSC (NR)
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|
|
Count me in as well. Home Publisher just isn't funny!
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31461 23-AUG 06:26 General Information
|
|
RE: MAX10 (Re: Msg 31432)
|
|
From: WLADI To: REVWCP (NR)
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|
I would be interested to have a word processor, like MAX-10, to run under OS-9.
|
|
I haven't had much experience with it, but I like what I know about it, and like
|
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|
|
most OS-9 users, I don't see an overabundance of good quality programming going
|
|
on. Please help us.
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|
wladi
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End of Thread.
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31434 22-AUG 01:52 Grits & Gravy
|
|
msg 31432
|
|
From: REVWCP To: MARTYGOODMAN (NR)
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|
|
Marty, please see ms9 31432 and let me know what you think. I am not certain if
|
|
I can do much programming at this point, but I would be willing to help in any
|
|
way I can. Jeremy, CSJW
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31435 22-AUG 01:54 Graphics & Music
|
|
WORDPROCESSING
|
|
From: REVWCP To: JEFFPARKER (NR)
|
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|
|
Do you think that there would be any interest for a MAX10 type of program under
|
|
OS9? I am not a programmer, but since word processing is one of your areas, may
|
|
be you could help generate some interest. see msg 31432
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31438 22-AUG 02:24 Telcom
|
|
xydown
|
|
From: THEFERRET To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
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|
|
THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU! Just what I've been waiting for. Now hopefully I shall
|
|
|
|
never have to switch terminal programs again, just because I want to download
|
|
something.
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Ahhh, Tim...
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|
<begin wheedling tone here>
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|
|
Now that you've got most of the hard part done , like CRC checking, and the
|
|
file system done, and all that fun stuff.... Ummmm..
|
|
How about adding WXmodem, huh? Please? Pretty please?
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|
|
<end wheedling tone>
|
|
<begin aura of hopefull expectation>
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|
Philip
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31439 22-AUG 02:30 Telcom
|
|
xydown
|
|
From: THEFERRET To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)
|
|
|
|
ahh, Tim? I got a "read error while copying" trying to unAR the executable.
|
|
|
|
First lesson in uploading AR files: Put text files LAST, so Executables don't
|
|
get chewed up!!
|
|
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|
31444 22-AUG 06:57 New Uploads
|
|
Hard Disk Formatting
|
|
From: ROYBUR To: KSCALES
|
|
|
|
Hi, Ken!
|
|
Thanx to all the Forum messages about your DISTO hard drive patches, I got
|
|
'em. And I must say the results were immediately noticeable!!! Now it's the
|
|
DRIVERCHECK program that ends up waiting...
|
|
But to quit rambling - in the docs, you mention a 'physical format' of the
|
|
hard disk - could you/would you clarify that a little, please. My drive was
|
|
already formatted (by ASCP, the vendor - heard not-so-nice comments about 'em)
|
|
and so I really don't know, since I (thought I!) had no need to learn about
|
|
hard drive installation, set-uo, etc. But now it seems I must learn, and where
|
|
better to start than with a recognized expert???!! BTW, SAS=1 on this drive -
|
|
thus my concern...
|
|
Thanx for the patches
|
|
Roy
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|
31445 22-AUG 12:09 General Information
|
|
1 Meg Upgrade
|
|
From: AARONS To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I have just installed the Disto CRC 1 Meg upgrade. No problems !!! It's
|
|
Fantastic!
|
|
|
|
But I'm concerned.....
|
|
|
|
It appears that it is adding considerably to the heat inside the CoCo. Is it now
|
|
|
|
nessary or wise to install a fan? Has anyone installed a fan? Where was the
|
|
best place to install it? What size did you use and is there a tandy part
|
|
number?
|
|
|
|
Also, When I had the CoCo apart to install the upgrade I noticed that
|
|
electrolytic capacitors C29 and C31 looked like they were leaking (looks like
|
|
wax around there base). Before I run out and get or order replacements, I would
|
|
|
|
like to know if anyone recommends replacing them with larger caps (greater
|
|
inMfds), if so what size fits and do you have Tandy part numbers?
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|
-Aaron
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31452 22-AUG 23:28 General Information
|
|
RE: 1 Meg Upgrade (Re: Msg 31445)
|
|
From: XLIONX To: AARONS
|
|
|
|
Howdy Aaron,
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|
|
|
YES YES YES add a fan. The size is not that important as long as the heat can't
|
|
build up. (The more CFM the better) I have a fan on EVERYTHING!!! I even use the
|
|
|
|
exhaust from the hard drive case to cool the Multi-Pak!
|
|
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|
The "WAX" around your Caps is "probably" just a mounting compound used to keep
|
|
the Caps from flopping around and breaking the two small wires that are soledred
|
|
|
|
in But check any ways. I would replace them with some comercial caps from NEWARK
|
|
|
|
or DIGI-KEY. Get the ones rated at 105 deg C and they will probably last forever
|
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(will cost a little more).
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|
|
-Mark W. Farrell (PegaSystems) -XLIONX (DELPHI) -SIGOp ProSIG (Pinball Haven
|
|
RiBBS v2.0 (708)428-8445) -mwf@SANDV
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31463 23-AUG 08:33 General Information
|
|
RE: 1 Meg Upgrade (Re: Msg 31452)
|
|
From: AARONS To: XLIONX (NR)
|
|
|
|
Mark,
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|
|
Thanks for the info. I'm going to mount a fan ASAP.
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|
-Aaron
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End of Thread.
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31447 22-AUG 19:27 General Information
|
|
Conferencing
|
|
From: TEDJAEGER To: COLINMCKAY
|
|
|
|
Just wanted to say I wasnt being snooty last week when you invited me to
|
|
conference and I did not respond. Couldn't figure out how!! It was my first
|
|
shot. Could you provide a little instruction? --Thanks, TedJaeger
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31449 22-AUG 20:05 Patches
|
|
1 meg upgrade software
|
|
From: WB4GCS To: KDARLING (NR)
|
|
|
|
Kevin: Please check the mail I left u......have problems with the software I got
|
|
|
|
from crc with the 1 meg upgrade. thanks & 73, Jim
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31453 22-AUG 23:40 Device Drivers
|
|
adaptec
|
|
From: 07ESRTIMOTHY To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Hi,
|
|
I also went round and round with a hard disk. Just an added note to the
|
|
last message.
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|
An Adaptec 4000 controller is SCSI only. the 4000A is settable for either
|
|
SCSI or SASI. If you want SCSI save some money and get the 4000.
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|
|
Also I have the manufacturers original docs for the 4000, 4000A, 4070(RLL)
|
|
controlers. Includes sample driver routines, jumper settings, formating data
|
|
etc.
|
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|
|
Tim Fadden
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31460 23-AUG 01:59 Graphics & Music
|
|
CGP-220
|
|
From: MFAHY To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Well, it's here now. By popular demand, I uploaded my CGPDump program. Try it
|
|
out and tell me what you think. It's rough, but it does the job!
|
|
|
|
Thanks,
|
|
|
|
- Mike Fahy
|
|
<MFAHY>
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31462 23-AUG 07:27 Device Drivers
|
|
Hitchhiker's Guide To SCSI
|
|
From: MATHOMPSON To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I've got lots to say to many people so to $ave time and money, I've squeezed it
|
|
all into one message: Look for your name here:
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|
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ALL:
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|
|
|
I have from a very reliable source that Disto never came out with any new SCSI
|
|
drivers, and that Kevin Darling never wrote them, either. So if you were
|
|
wondering about them, stop holding your breath.
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|
|
BRIANWHITE, COLINMACKAY:
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|
|
I believe Brian's timing was for a hypothetical OS/9 system where RBFman had
|
|
zero overhead. For the heck of it, I'm gonna throw a hook in my drivers while
|
|
I'm writing them to see how long megaread takes when the driver just returns
|
|
without doing diddley squat. This will give a final result as to total RBFman
|
|
overhead in reading a megabyte. Will post results on the forum, for all to see.
|
|
|
|
Also, Brian and I are using Bruce Isted's original megaread for all of our
|
|
tests. About the only thing that can be truly said is the SCSI protocol
|
|
supports more megabytes/sec than ST412/506/ESDI/SMD/IDE. I also believe SMD (
|
|
SMart Drive) = IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics).
|
|
|
|
XLIONX, MATTSINGER, AJMLFCO:
|
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|
|
XLIONX and MATTSINGER, it would seem that AJMLFCO has answered your question re:
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|
|
256 bytes under OS/9. The 296N can crank it. But the Northern Telecom SCSI
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oracle didn't have a product spec for the drive, and the only literature I could
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find was a spec sheet that only gave the sectors/track for 512-byte blocks. But
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remember, with my new drivers, and ONLY with MY new drivers, will Seagate N
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owners get several more megabytes out of their drives when they (re-)format for
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512-byte sectors. Instead of 75MB on your 296N, you'll have the full 84!!!
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Hang in there.
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RGRAHAM:
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For the ST157N, you have 44 sectors per track, about 612 useful sectors, and 6
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heads. Do an hmode /h0 cyls=612 hds=6 sectrk=44 sectrk0=44 alloc=32 ilv=15
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initcmd=0. Also, for now, I suggest you get Ken Scale's SCSI drivers from the
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database and use them in place of Disto's drivers. Then get mine when I upload
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them. Then you'll get 7 more megs from your drive than you would with any other
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driver available. Keep tuned.
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ROYBUR:
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If your drive was physically formatted once, there really isn't much point in
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formatting it again, unless you want to fine tune the interleave for a marginal
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performance gain that isn't worth a backup and restore. You can change your SAS
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in the device descriptor to whatever you want, whenever you want to. It doesn't
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matter what the drive was formatted as. Dunno if SAS is even stored on the
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drive (could be wrong on that last point).
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07ESRTIMOTHY:
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Well, the only thing ESDI I will support is anything hooked to a SCSI-to-ESDI
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interface. Obviously, a full ESDI driver would preclude there being ESDI
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controllers for the CoCo, which there are none. But you might ask Chris Burke
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about it (COCOXT on Delphi). He made the CoCo XT interface, which basically
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fudges an IBM card slot for the CoCo, so you can plug in an XT drive controller
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and an ST412 drive. Maybe he could be convinced to write something to support
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an XT ESDI drive controller card. I am also looking into supporting cartridge
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and tape drives. Cartridges are easy, since you access them like a disk. Tape
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drives are different, but I dunno how different. May have to support other
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things like rewind or whatever. May even have to write an SBFman
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(Sequential-Block-File) for them. Or maybe you can just treat them like a
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drive, and they figure it all out. Will see...
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ALL:
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By the way, does anybody in forum land know if Chris Burke still uses COCOXT
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much around here. Haven't seen or heard much of COCOXT, or gotten replies to
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mail. Chris, are you out there?
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Matthew Thompson
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31464 23-AUG 17:13 General Information
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RE: 4-in-1 board and ST-157N (Re: Msg 31306)
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From: ANTNIE To: MATHOMPSON (NR)
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Thanks so much for the help!!!! I will wait to see if your drivers work well,
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and maybe get in touch with RGB. Thanks a million! Anthony
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