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29550 18-MAY 22:45 Programmers Den
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RE: RMA/RLink boo-boo. (Re: Msg 29497)
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From: EDDIEKUNS To: TIMKOONCE
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A tiny correction -- C programmers should keep their DP size under 127 bytes.
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Remember that cstart.r (?) reserves the very first DP byte to prevent the
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variables from ever having an address of NULL.
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Too bad RMA doesn't generate files with more info on internal references. If it
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did, then Rlink could correct this problem by adding the necessary bytes (ie:
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turning 8-bit offsets to 16-bit offsets) and then correcting all internal
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references.
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Eddie
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29553 18-MAY 23:07 Programmers Den
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RE: RMA/RLink boo-boo. (Re: Msg 29533)
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From: EDDIEKUNS To: GREGL
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I think it's safe for RLink to understand that any 8-bit signed reference to a
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DP variable who's address is >= 0x80 is wrong. Yes, this would increase code
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size, but not by THAT much I don t think unless you try to correct the problem
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in RLink.
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Eddie
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End of Thread.
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29551 18-MAY 23:01 General Information
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RE: Auto-Follow Mouse (Re: Msg 29522)
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From: EDDIEKUNS To: DENNYSKALA
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Putting 'control -e' into your startup does NOT turn on the autofollow mouse.
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Yes, the a.f. mouse if expensive in terms of CPU processing time. But it is only
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turned on when a process makes the system call to turn it on.
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Eddie
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29552 18-MAY 23:05 General Information
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RE: Help! My computer hated me! (Re: Msg 29532)
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From: EDDIEKUNS To: XLIONX
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Yes, the Glenside club meets in the library close to 64 (North Ave). There are
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two clubs, one of which is "CoCo" and the other is specifically OS-9. The CoCo
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club meets the 2nd Thurs of each month and the OS-9 club meets the 4th Thurs of
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each month.
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Eddie
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29554 18-MAY 23:41 Programmers Den
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RE: os9gen trouble (Re: Msg 29505)
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From: NES To: OS9UGPRES
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I dont get an error when I use os9gen, but the new disk will give me a boot
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failed after its almost finnished loading the boot file. ????? Thanx for the
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help.... NES
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29565 19-MAY 11:01 Programmers Den
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RE: os9gen trouble (Re: Msg 29554)
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From: ZACKSESSIONS To: NES
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Then you don't have your boot disk set up right. Do you have CMDS/Shell there?
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Is it set for execute? Do you boot in a window device? If so, is there a
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CMDS/grfdrv there and set for execute? Do you boot to your hard drive? If so,
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the same questions as above, except for your hard drive and not the floppy.
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Zack
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29597 20-MAY 22:44 Programmers Den
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RE: os9gen trouble (Re: Msg 29565)
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From: NES To: ZACKSESSIONS
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Zak, I have been useing a floppy to boot the hard drive. all I have on my hard
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drive boot disk is os9boot. I do have GRFDRV in the harddrive's
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CMDS/GRFDRV. My origonal boot disk work's fine but now find that the disk that
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I made my first boot disk will not make another boot disk??? I am try to boot
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with a window as a term I have VGDINT and WININT in the boot file could that
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cause truble? NES
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29600 20-MAY 22:55 Programmers Den
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RE: os9gen trouble (Re: Msg 29597)
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From: ZACKSESSIONS To: NES
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It could be. See, Init says that your boot device will be /d0. CC3Go says that
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your boot window will be /TERM. You apparently have patched that to be
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/W<something>. This means that device /d0 MUST have a CMDS/grfdrv available at
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boot time. Does this help?
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Zack
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29611 21-MAY 03:04 Programmers Den
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RE: os9gen trouble (Re: Msg 29597)
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From: TIMKOONCE To: NES
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The problem is that, the way Init and CC3Go are set up, you have the following
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odd situation:
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IF your /term is a VDG device, then GrfDrv will get loaded from the hard disk,
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OTHERWISE /term is a window device, then GrfDrv will get loaded from the
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floppy.
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The "easy" patch for this is to look into the INIT module, and change /D0 to
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/DD. I would also change the /H0 strings in CC3Go to /DD. This way, GrfDrv
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will always get loaded from /DD, which I presume in your case is the hard drive.
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Of course, Init and CC3Go should have been set up to use /DD in the first
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place.... <sigh>
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- Tim Koonce
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29620 21-MAY 20:01 Programmers Den
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RE: os9gen trouble (Re: Msg 29611)
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From: NES To: TIMKOONCE (NR)
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Thanx for the reply, Zacsession's talk me thur fixing the INIT mode. but Thanx
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anyway for your help. NES
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End of Thread.
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29555 18-MAY 23:46 Applications
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RE: Gravity Studio (Re: Msg 29546)
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From: NES To: EARLROB
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Rob, I left a message to rainbow and found out the following: Make the check out
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to: Gravity Studio
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send it to: Gravity Studio
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PO BOX 791
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Belton, TX 76513-791
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also the program is call'ed Planet Engine. NES (Eric Stringer)
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29584 20-MAY 13:35 Applications
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RE: Gravity Studio (Re: Msg 29555)
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From: EARLROB To: NES
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Thanks for the info. I'm going to order it tomorrow!
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Rob
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29598 20-MAY 22:45 Applications
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RE: Gravity Studio (Re: Msg 29584)
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From: NES To: EARLROB (NR)
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Yea I put mine in the mail Friday 18. let you know what I think of it. NES
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End of Thread.
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29556 19-MAY 00:26 General Information
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Questions
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From: KENHALTER To: ALL
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Well you asked for questions, so......... First of all, I was wondering what is
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included with the os9 LII development system? Secondly, it is said that there is
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no such animal as a term program for os9 that uses the serial port. Of course I
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can see why you couldn't run more than 1 process at a time while using the port
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but it should be possible at 300 baud at least shouldn't it?
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Thirdly, would a modem pak work (for now) since they're only $10 bucks It would
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be worth getting one, at least on a disposable basis. And would I use it by
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writing a term program (or dloading one) that simply opens a path to it and
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treats it as a terminal?
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My Fourth question is, why are 68k based machines so darned expensive?! You can
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get a 386sx system for a LOT less than a similarly equipt Mac or Amiga. Then,
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you might spend another huge chunk of dough to make the dang thing compatible
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with the 386.
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The 386 can multi task, has virtual mem, killer graphics, etc. what's the
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story.
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Last of all, how do you pass info from 1 ml module to another? With a fork
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system call maybe?
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Are there any good examples handy in the dbase?
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So far, I really enjoy level 2 with it's 80 col screens and windows. a
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lonnnngggg time ago, I bought level 1 at a 1/2 price radio shack sale but with
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it's 80 column style text output on a 32 column screen, 64k total mem (that
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disappeared so fast it would make your head spin), and the clumsiest
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editor/assembler/debug in the world, it took me about 1 week to totally lose
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interest.
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I'm sure glad that I hung on to it though for the assembler at least. Clumsy
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but usable. I got along fine with rsdos without any of the unravelled series
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type books, but I think if there were on available for os9, I'd grab it.
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Well, That's enough for now.....
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Any help/ comments will be appreciated.
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Ken Halter
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Title: Questions... Page 1 of 10 bazillion.<ha>
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29566 19-MAY 11:08 General Information
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RE: Questions (Re: Msg 29556)
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From: ZACKSESSIONS To: KENHALTER
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I'll answer your first question, and let others field the rest. The Dev Pack
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includes:
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An interactive debugger (useful only for RMA programmers)
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A screen editor (useless in my opinion, but if you don't have one ..)
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RMA Assembler
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RLINK Linker
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cgfx.l C Graphics Library (documented in Multi-Vue manual)
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sys.l (useful for RMA programmars)
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Several C header files (*.h files) needed by cgfx.l
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A MAKE utility
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A Touch utility
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Properly written Ramdisk driver and device modules
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Twelve additional OS9 commands not included with Level 2
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BINEX
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DUMP
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EXBIN
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LOGIN
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MODPATCH
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MON
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MONTYPE
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PARK
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SAVE
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TEE
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TSMON
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VERIFY
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That's it!
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As I typed that list I noticed modpatch and montype, these are with Level 2, not
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exactly sure why there are here also.
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Zack
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29572 19-MAY 21:48 General Information
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RE: Questions (Re: Msg 29556)
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From: TIMKOONCE To: KENHALTER
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Here's some insight into your questions:
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1) Serial port and OS9.
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The reason that RSDOS programs can get away with this is that they can take
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over the entire machine and set up things to do it as easily as possible. Under
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OS9, this isn't really possible. Under OS9, there is a fair amount of overhead
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in processing any interrupt (first, you have to switch to the system memory map,
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then call the system interrupt handler which searches through a table to find
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out which interrupt it was, then calls the specific interrupt handler which does
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it's stuff). This overhead really kills you when you're trying to do bit-banger
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work where you need 1000 interrupts per second (for 300 baud!!), or much more
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than that for higher baud rates.
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Some people _have_ managed to get it working, but it is _very_ quirky, and
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has a lot of problems due to the kernel patching that they have had to do to get
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it to work.
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2) Modem pak
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The modem pak is essentially an RS232 pak with built-in modem. It works very
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well under OS9. You need to hack it a bit to get it to work without a
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Multi-Pak, but many people on here can help you with that.
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3) 386 vs. 68000.
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The 386 machines are benefitting from a massive market, and a lot of really
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cheaply designed hardware.
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From what I've heard, the 386 _does_ have a tolerable architecture, but if
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you actually want to write stuff that other people might use, you still have to
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aim it at the 286 (yuck!).
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Sure, the 386 multitasks, but have you priced the operating systems that do
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it? OS/2 is a monster, OS9000 is still very pricey, which basically leaves the
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multitasking MSDOS emulators (ugh!), or the Unix variants (which I think are too
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clumsy for personal use).
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The 68000 was well-designed to begin with, so that there is really
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remarkably little difference between the 68000 and the 68030 besides speed.
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When you compare cheap 386 machines to Macs and Amigas, that's like
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comparing a backyard mechanics fixed-up VW Bug to a BMW. Sure, the VW might be
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able to do everything the BMW can now, but which one do _you_ want to still own
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in 10 years?
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- Tim Koonce
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29592 20-MAY 17:17 General Information
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RE: Questions (Re: Msg 29572)
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From: KENHALTER To: TIMKOONCE
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Thanks for the reply Tim. I'll study it awhile an get back to you.
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Thanks again. Ken Halter
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29642 22-MAY 14:06 General Information
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RE: Questions (Re: Msg 29592)
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From: RRIES To: KENHALTER (NR)
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I'VE BEEN AWAY FROM MY MACHINE FOR A WHILE(I'M MOVING, AND GETTING MARRIED), BUT
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IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, XTERM MAY WORK WITH THE SE RIAL PORT. I REMEMBER
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USING/TRYING TO USE IT TO RUN A ROCKWELL AIM-65 EPROM PROGRAMMER A WHILE BACK.
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I'LL LOOK INTO IT AND GET BACK TO YOU BY THE WEEKEND. RRIES (P.S.- PLEASE EXCUSE
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THE CAPS- I'M USING A COCO2 WITH COMPAC !!) AT WORK.)
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End of Thread.
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29557 19-MAY 01:00 Telcom
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RE: tel (Re: Msg 29416)
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From: WAYNELAIRD To: AEJ
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hey aej- I got you on my bbs list, you're chip to chip, right? check out the
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bigger list under the name COCOS9ER, in the telecom section. If you have any
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MORE Canadian boards, I'd sure like to list 'em. best regards, Wayne Laird-
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COCOS9ER
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29563 19-MAY 06:40 Telcom
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RE: tel (Re: Msg 29557)
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From: AEJ To: WAYNELAIRD (NR)
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Hello there, yes I am CHIP to CHIP...now running under RCIS software. The only
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COCO BBS (other than mine) in the area is Color Nova sysop John Cleveland
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Liverpool, Nova Scotia 902-634-3095 24 hours/300-1200 baud running OS9...PBBS
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End of Thread.
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29558 19-MAY 01:08 Telcom
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RE: RiBBStrek (Re: Msg 29542)
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From: WAYNELAIRD To: EASYSINGLES (NR)
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hi E. the problem is that the file RibbsTrek is to be used on a RiBBS bullentin
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board. you have to be running the bbs before it'll work. but it was made by San
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Diego's own Shawn Driscoll. if you want to check with him some more. try ocean
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beach bbs @ 1-619-2244878 and leave him e-mail. " and now a word from our
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sponser..." you can get that bbs number with about 189 others from the file "
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COCOS9ER " here in the telcom section. Might still be in the new uploads too.
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best, wayne
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29559 19-MAY 01:10 General Information
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TSWORD_1
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From: VE3DAC To: OS9UGVP (NR)
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Well now that you helped put the above package back on the in-use shelf, perhaps
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you or someone else could help with the next near problem. When Vshell starts it
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takes 41 pages of system memory. Is this something to do with its Lev 1 heritage
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and is there anything I can do to make it work like a Lev 2 Program ? The header
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looks pretty normal so it must be something not obvious to the likes of me. Merv
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29560 19-MAY 01:19 Telcom
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list your bbs's
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From: WAYNELAIRD To: ALL SYSOPS (NR)
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to all sysops, some of you may have seen my bbs list for both OS9 and decb'ers
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I'd like to list your bbs on the next bbs list coming out soon. If you don't
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have a copy, it's availible ethier in the new uploads section or the telecom
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section. It's a wonderful file for your callers who want to 'travel' and meet
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new people and places, yourself included. You should check to see if you're on
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the list but I'll be happy to add you on if you're not.
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best regards, ps the title and key word is
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COCOS9ER Wayne
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29561 19-MAY 02:12 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29549)
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From: BILLBEISSERT To: GREGL
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Okay, that means that I have to use RSOS9 on PAK so that I can use PAK on OSTERM
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so that I can use RSOS9 on OSTERM so that I can xfer the files via OS9 Level 2
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to an OS9 formatted disk...right?
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I'm beginning to have second thoughts about this *ordeal*, ya know? Bill
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29567 19-MAY 16:31 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29561)
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From: TRIX To: BILLBEISSERT
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Ok, here's the deal...
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To get OSTerm from RS-DOS to OS-9 you're gonna need:
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1) An RS-DOS terminal (I would assume that's what you're using)
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2) OS-9 Level II (That's a given)
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3) RSOS9
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4) Pak
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5) The OSTerm.pak file itself (Don't remember the exact name)
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First, you download the OSTerm file, RSOS9, and pak with the RS-DOS term. Then
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you run RSOS9 on pak and the OSTerm file to put an OS-9 Directory on the
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RS-DOS disk. Next you have to start copying on to, OS-9 disks. You'll need
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to put pak in your execution directory (with the 'e' attribute set) and put
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the OSTerm file on a blank OS-9 disk. Next you run pak on the OSTerm file to
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un-compress it on the blank disk. Lastly you put the OSTerm files themselves
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on whatever disk you want them to live. <whew!> Wasn't that fun? <grin>
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Hope it helps,
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-John.
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29568 19-MAY 18:50 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29567)
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From: BILLBEISSERT To: TRIX
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Got it...but I think I've made an initial mistake by downloading OSTERM onto a
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40 track DOS...RSOS9 gives me an error. Guess I'll have to download it onto a 35
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track format or copy the file over to a 35 track disk. It's either that or some
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sort of conflict with ADOS3. Now, at least, I have something to do here on a
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rainy day in Illinois. Thanks. Bill
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29569 19-MAY 20:23 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29561)
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From: EDDIEKUNS To: BILLBEISSERT
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Yeah -- this whole thing is a process of bootstrapping!
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What I did is use a program (RSDOS2OS9.BAS?) to turn an RSDOS formatted disk
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into an OS-9 formatted disk, and I put everything I needed on the disk so I
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could do it in one step. So...
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Download PAK, the terminal program of your choice, and ???.BAS (it's in the
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general database here, I believe). Put them on an RSDOS formatted disk. Run
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the .BAS program. Now boot up OS-9 and read both files from the disk. Use
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Pak/Ar on the terminal program of your choice.
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You're set!
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Eddie
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29571 19-MAY 20:39 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29568)
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From: EDDIEKUNS To: BILLBEISSERT
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Well, you could always make the drive to the local CoCo club which meets at the
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Glenside library just off Rt 64 (North Ave). Or you could drop by my house
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(Aurora) and I could give you a copy of OSTerm or I could download the newest
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version for you. (Hehehe -- and I could show off KBCom :) It's probably a long
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drive, but it may take less time than the bootstrapping process!
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If you're interested in dropping by, give me a call at 1-708-820-3943. If that
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number's busy (then I'm on Delphi :) then call 820-3953 if it's before 10pm.
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(Technically that's my roommate's line, but we share.)
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We're thinking of forming another CoCo club farther west than the Glenside club
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for those (like yourself) quite a ways out. Too bad the Elgin club went
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under...
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Eddie
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29581 20-MAY 12:21 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29571)
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From: BILLBEISSERT To: EDDIEKUNS
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Well, Eddie, I've given up on OSTERM at this end. Two downloads and each time I
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use RSOS9.BAS on the file I get an FC error in line 106. RSOS9 worked fine on
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PAK so at least I have that for future use.
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I ordered WIZ a couple of days ago and it should be here this week so maybe
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I'll have a term program for OS9 after all. Then maybe I'll give OSTERM another
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try (being able to avoid using RSOS9) and compare the two programs. I intend to
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use it/them on Packet and RTTY. It will be interesting to see how they compare
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to the other ML term programs I am using at present...the whole idea being to
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have the term program on Packet/RTTY, a word processor and possibly a second
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term program on the modem...using windows. Just getting my feet "damp" with OS9
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and am enjoying the multi-tasking (sure beats having to reload programs).
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I wasn't aware that the Elgin club went under. I check into the Pinball Haven
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regularly, know Jeff Chapin and Tony Podraza and talk to Ed Hathaway from time
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to time but no one has mentioned the club going under. They just had a meeting
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last month at Aunt Mary's (saw it posted on the BBS) but who knows. I have to
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get hold of Tony to have my ADOS3 reburnt (minor changes) so I'll find out then
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if the club's still going.
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BTW, the Monitoring Post LLBBS is back up and running again. (708) 289-0014 8N1
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1200 baud (possibly 300 and 2400, too) if you are involved with ham radio and
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such. Not too many files on the board a couple of weeks ago but there may be
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some there by now. They only want text files posted from what I understand.
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Thanks for the kind offer and if I get REAL desparate for OSTERM I may take
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you up on the invitation (on a nice day/night so I can get the bike out).
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BCNU --- Bill
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29585 20-MAY 13:39 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29581)
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From: ZACKSESSIONS To: BILLBEISSERT
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The problem you're encountering with RSOS9.BAS may be that osterm.ar is too
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large of a file. RSOS9.BAS had a bug/feature which caused problems with files
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over a certain size. When I first go into OS9, I got my first OS9 term program
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the same way you are attempting it, but I was getting Supercomm. Maybe
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supercomm.ar was smaller? Anyway, if you want to play around with it, you could
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try downloading supercomm, converting it over, the use Supercomm to download
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OSTerm directly to OS9.
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Zack
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29587 20-MAY 14:53 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29581)
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From: EDDIEKUNS To: BILLBEISSERT
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I believe the FC error is because the OSTerm file is so large. The program to
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turn an RSDOS formatted disk into an OS-9 formatted disk chokes on large files.
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(The one I used at least.)
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You may want to try download RSDOS.ar (and 'ar' if you haven't already) and
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transfer those to OS-9 (Oh -- you'll need IPatch). With RSDOS, you can transfer
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any file between OS-9 and DECB formatted disks. I believe you need two drives
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to use it ho.
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Eddie
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29593 20-MAY 19:03 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29561)
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From: GREGL To: BILLBEISSERT
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Bill,
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It's not that bad. You can simply download PAK and OSTERM, put them onto a
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blank disk and run RS2OS9 on that disk. Once that's done, copy those two files
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onto an OS-9 disk and type PAK -X OSTERM.
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-- Greg
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29607 21-MAY 01:36 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29581)
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From: OS9UGPRES To: BILLBEISSERT
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Hi Bill... I thought I'd uploaded a correction to RSOS9 a long time ago which
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got rid of that FC error. If not, will someone grab that off CIS and post it
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here?
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But I see you're getting Wiz. That should fix you up. Keep at it! You've gotten
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pretty far already. best - kev
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29610 21-MAY 02:59 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29581)
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From: TIMKOONCE To: BILLBEISSERT
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As several people have mentioned, your problem is probably that RSOS9 can only
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handle files up to 32k. Newer versions of this program get around this problem,
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but probably the easiest way around it is to get a smaller term program (XCom9
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is very small, Supercomm, JTerm, Telstar may be small enough), move that over to
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OS9, and then use that to download OSTerm, if you like.
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Another alternative is to get IPATCH, RSDOS, and the CC3DISK ipatch file
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that will allow you to transfer files from the OS9 side. The RSDOS program to
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read/write RSDOS disks doesn't have the 32k limitation that early forms of RSOS9
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had.
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Hope this helps,
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Tim Koonce
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29624 21-MAY 22:44 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29607)
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From: GREGL To: OS9UGPRES (NR)
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|
Kevin,
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The patch for RS2OS9.BAS has been included in the program, unless something
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went sour. I'll have to go double check it just to make sure that the
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modification is in place.
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-- Greg
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29637 22-MAY 00:59 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29610)
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|
From: BILLBEISSERT To: ALL
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|
I sure appreciate all the help, advice and suggestions from you gentlemen but
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I think that I will wait until WIZ arrives before I do any more downloads of OS9
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files (once bitten, twice shy?) just to avoid having to bother you with my
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questions. I have d'loaded PAK, AR and RSOS9 for future use and that makes me
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*lethal* beyond my capabilities with OS9 to date. Not having a hard-drive seems
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to be a limiting factor to me and I have a bunch of organizing to do here so
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that I don't wind up with a bunch of disks with files scattered randomly on
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them; I don't want to get ahead of myself. I still have to "sift" through all my
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Rainbow On Disk files to see what I have been missing/ignoring.
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I got the big OK on the purchase of the Kenneth-Leigh Enterprises machine as
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soon as it is available on the market, that's why I'm finally getting into OS9.
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The Coco3 won't be ignored, though. Heck, I still use my TRS-80 Model 1 for some
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programs; it number-crunches a bit faster than the Coco's will. 'Ever hear of
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Thomas Jefferson Beale and try to decipher his codes?
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|
Bill
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29638 22-MAY 01:12 General Information
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RE: OS9 via RS-DOS? (Re: Msg 29637)
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|
From: THEFERRET To: BILLBEISSERT
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|
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|
As I understand it, you already HAVE downloaded osterm succcessfully, but rsdos
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't have to re-download it. Here's what you do
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Notice what variable causes the error in line 109. Then backtrack to where it
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get'Ss it'Ss value assigned. It should be a ling with either
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<variable>=mid$((DSKI$0,xx,xx),xx,xx) or some variable in place of DSKI$, that
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got it'S value from DSKI$.
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|
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I know this sounds complicated, but really, it isn't . Finding the assignment
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is the hard part. Then , once you find the culprite, all you have to do is
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make the mid$ statement start one earlier i.e. mid$(a$,16,2) becomes mid$(a$,
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15,3)
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Sorry I can't be more specific, but the prog is buried somewherere. If you still
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can't fix it this way, I'll go dig for it. BTW, OSterm is handy, because it is
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|
the only way to get ymodem batch up/downloades.
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|
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|
alternately, (I think this is what I did), you can put in a single line to check
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|
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|
if the size of file is larger than 65535. if it is, add 65536 to the file size
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varible. This is for some reason easier. Good luck Philip
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|
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End of Thread.
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|
29562 19-MAY 02:17 General Information
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|
ROBOT ODYESSY I
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|
From: WAYNELAIRD To: ALL
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|
|
|
to all, just started to work with the game Robot Odyssey. Neat game by Tandy.
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|
But I need help with my logic planning. Is there or does anyone have a text file
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|
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for some of the chips that the robots use? The book is helpful with the basics
|
|
but I need more experiance and help. thanks,
|
|
Wayne
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|
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29564 19-MAY 10:26 General Information
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|
Rookie help
|
|
From: BANDMAN To: ALL
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|
|
|
HELLO, EVERYONE!
|
|
|
|
I'm just getting started with OS-9 lvl 2, and am getting around (so far!)
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pretty well! But there's one quetion I have:
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|
|
|
I am currently on-line with Autoterm under BASIC. Is it possible to D-load OS-9
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|
files this way, or must I be under OS-9? (I have no OS-9 terminal yet). What do
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|
I need to do? (please pardon my ignorance - this is probably only the first of
|
|
MANY questions!) Thanks for the help!!!!
|
|
|
|
Gary <BANDMAN> McCarty
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|
|
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|
29570 19-MAY 20:32 General Information
|
|
RE: Rookie help (Re: Msg 29564)
|
|
From: EDDIEKUNS To: BANDMAN
|
|
|
|
I just sent a message detailing how to do this! <Grin> (About one minute ago.
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|
No, you didn't miss it!) I'm in a verbose mood today, so....
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|
|
|
Look in the general information database for an RSDOS basic program. I forget
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|
it's name, but it's something like RSDOS2OS9.BAS. Download this program and
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|
then whatever you want to transfer to OS-9. Run this program on the RSDOS
|
|
formatted disk -- it produces a disk that's more-or-less OS-9 formatted (but has
|
|
|
|
problems with huge files). Now boot up OS-9 and copy the files from this disk
|
|
to where you want them to live.
|
|
|
|
A program you want to have is called RSDOS.ar (so you'll need the 'ar' archive
|
|
program to de-archive it). This is an OS-9 utility that copies files to and
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|
from RSDOS-formatted disks. You'll need to make a new boot disk to use this
|
|
utility tho, and you'll need the IPatch utility to do so. Steps: 1) Download
|
|
IPatch and AR and RSDOS.ar.
|
|
2) Dearchive everything.
|
|
3) Read the directions that come with RSDOS.ar
|
|
4) Following the directions, run IPatch to create a new
|
|
enhanced CC3Disk driver.
|
|
5) Replace your current CC3Disk driver with this enhanced
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|
one. Many ways: EZGen, os9gen, config. If you need
|
|
help here, ask.
|
|
|
|
Oh -- a sidenote. If you're currently using the Disto SC-II CC3Disk, then you
|
|
don't need to replace it with the enhanced Tandy CC3Disk. In that case, just
|
|
download RSDos.ar (and ar) and use it!
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|
|
|
Eddie
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|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29588 20-MAY 15:29 General Information
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|
RE: Rookie help (Re: Msg 29570)
|
|
From: BANDMAN To: EDDIEKUNS
|
|
|
|
Thanks, Eddie! I will make a hardcopy of your letter and go from there!
|
|
Appreciate your help! (You will prob'ly hear from me again!)
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|
|
|
Gary >BANDMAN< McCarty
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-*-
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|
|
|
End of Thread.
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|
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29573 20-MAY 00:08 General Information
|
|
RE: smartwatch help! (Re: Msg 29472)
|
|
From: RICKLT To: ARTFLEXSER
|
|
|
|
Thanks for your input Art, But I did install the smartwatch under the Rom with
|
|
pins 1,2,27 & 28 hanging off the ends. I also connected pin 28 to 5 volts DC I
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|
also made sure to install the rom chip back in line with the 24 pin socket.
|
|
I am using a pin out of an old wire wrap socket to hook to pin 28 of the smart
|
|
watch, This is connected to a 5 volt source on controller. Thanks again for
|
|
your input.
|
|
|
|
Ricklt (Rick Tackett)
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29578 20-MAY 02:18 General Information
|
|
RE: smartwatch help! (Re: Msg 29573)
|
|
From: ARTFLEXSER To: RICKLT
|
|
|
|
Sounds like you did everything right there. My next suspicion would be that the
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|
|
|
SmartWatch/ROM piggyback is being dislodged slightly on account of the extra
|
|
height when you insert the disk controller. This is particularly likely if you
|
|
are inserting it into a Multipak, where it is a little bit harder to see clearly
|
|
|
|
what is happening there. If this is the case, you might see if it works when
|
|
you insert the controller directly into the CoCo. Also check for any broken
|
|
pins on the SmartWatch.
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|
|
|
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|
|
29602 20-MAY 23:03 General Information
|
|
RE: smartwatch help! (Re: Msg 29578)
|
|
From: RICKLT To: ARTFLEXSER
|
|
|
|
Again thanks for your sugestions. I was able to get it working today. It was
|
|
all my fault, I just forgot how IC chips are numberd on the pins.
|
|
|
|
Thanks again
|
|
Ricklt (Rick Tackett)
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
29603 20-MAY 23:11 General Information
|
|
RE: smartwatch help! (Re: Msg 29372)
|
|
From: RICKLT To: PAGAN (NR)
|
|
|
|
Stephen, I finally found the problem. The problem was forgetfulness. I just
|
|
forgot how IC chip pins are numberd. Thank again for your replies.
|
|
|
|
Ricklt (Rick Tackett)
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|
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|
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|
End of Thread.
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|
29574 20-MAY 00:10 General Information
|
|
RE: smartwatch (Re: Msg 29482)
|
|
From: RICKLT To: PAGAN (NR)
|
|
|
|
Thanks again for you input Stephen, I used the other method though, easier in-
|
|
|
|
stallation for me. I guess that could be the problem, it seems that most hard-
|
|
ware mods never work the easy way. I will keep trying though even if it means
|
|
buying a newer controller. Thanks again!
|
|
|
|
Ricklt (Rick Tackett)
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|
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29575 20-MAY 00:58 Patches
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|
TSWORD (RE MSG 29548)
|
|
From: VE3DAC To: IBELIEVENUKE (NR)
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|
|
|
Brian - see the file VI, it has the latest patches for TSedit. A coco3 version.
|
|
|
|
Merv
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29576 20-MAY 01:03 Patches
|
|
VI
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|
From: VE3DAC To: RICKADAMS (NR)
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|
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|
Thanks for the new version, it seems to run a bit faster than my last TSED. One
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|
|
|
change I made was increase the data size to C000. However I vote to eliminate or
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|
|
reduce the credit time at startup. Sorry... I would also like to eliminate the
|
|
vipars requirement. To make changes a modpatch file would suit my purposes
|
|
better. No bugs found yet. Merv
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29577 20-MAY 01:48 Applications
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|
Sculptor
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|
From: GENEDEAL To: ALL
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|
|
Anyone out there using sculptor at all? I'd like to talk about it.
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|
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29586 20-MAY 13:39 Applications
|
|
RE: Sculptor (Re: Msg 29577)
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|
From: EARLROB To: GENEDEAL
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|
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|
Well, I try to use Sculptor sometimes, but the docs. are not very good for a
|
|
beginning sculptorist (whatever you call a person using sculptor)
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|
I just spoke to Frank Hogg, and he had to stop carrying sculptor because of
|
|
the bad support from MPD. He still uses Sculptor, and I think it is a very
|
|
powerful dev. tool, but I am not too good with it. Is there anyone out there who
|
|
|
|
is big on sculptor, and could maybe upload some demos?
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|
-Rob
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29604 20-MAY 23:42 Applications
|
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RE: Sculptor (Re: Msg 29577)
|
|
From: CIZZIJR To: GENEDEAL
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|
|
|
I have two databases setup under sculptor. If you have any particular questions
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|
|
|
send them my way, I'll try to answer them.
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|
|
|
Carmen Izzi Jr. [cizzijr]
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29631 22-MAY 00:07 Applications
|
|
RE: Sculptor (Re: Msg 29586)
|
|
From: GENEDEAL To: EARLROB (NR)
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|
|
|
I agree with you about the docs, but then after a few years of bad docs you
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can overcome. I to am a beginner, but a ccreativereative one. I've had some
|
|
experience at writing dbms from scratch and interfacing multiple datamaster
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|
files, so you can imagin how convenient I find sculptor. My biggest problem is
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finding the time. I have been trying to solve a problem with spastice retic
|
|
reports to the screen. If you have any clues or experience, let me know. My
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screen doesn't seem recognize that it is more
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29632 22-MAY 00:22 Applications
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RE: Sculptor (Re: Msg 29586)
|
|
From: GENEDEAL To: EARLROB (NR)
|
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I agree with you about the docs, but I'm used to that. I've done a few
|
|
things, but nothing exhaustive. I have managed to create a bilingual database
|
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using greek and english, but everything else is just playing. I have a problem
|
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with output to the crt thatis driveing me crazy when I try to do reports. It
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paginates after every record! I'd like to solve tha, t I'd go on to other
|
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things.
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|
|
|
I'd like to discuss any ideas you have, or maybe questions. Sometimes such
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interaction seems tospark a little creativity in problem solving.
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|
Gene
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29633 22-MAY 00:38 Applications
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RE: Sculptor (Re: Msg 29604)
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From: GENEDEAL To: CIZZIJR (NR)
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Carmen,
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|
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Thanks for your reply. I have started several databases, one of which uses
|
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multiple language character sets, but my big frustration is with reports to
|
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screen on my cc3. My pvdu doesn't seem to realize the number of lines
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available. I've checked the pv du file for the obvious problems, but no luck.
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I'd appreciate you input. r input.
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What kind of databases have you constructed?
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Thanks,
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Gene Deal
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End of Thread.
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29579 20-MAY 02:41 General Information
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Essay on Promoting OS-9
|
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From: BRIANWHITE To: MARTYGOODMAN (NR)
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|
|
Marty,
|
|
|
|
I challenge your essay... but I challenge it only because it was not stong
|
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enough. First though, I'd like to say that this message isn't only to Marty,
|
|
but to everyone who cares at all for out little OS-9 system. Please read it,
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|
and please make your co mments known.
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|
|
You said you wanted a good word proccessor, a good spreadsheet, and a good
|
|
database. That's nice, but it's not enough. I want the standards! I want Word
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|
|
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Perfect. I want dBase/FoxBase. I want Lotus 1-2-3/VP-Planner/Quatro. But most
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of all, I want Au toCAD. I can get by with Ved & XPrint. XPrint can handle
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almost any formatting, and if that isn't enough, VPrint has more. However,
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there aren't any, to my knowledge, CAD programs available for OS-9.
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|
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My big problem with these "standards", is that the standard is IBM. And what
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really annoys me most about this "standard" is that it became a standard because
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|
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of a computer that was inferior to our machine. Apple & Commodore with their
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6502's bother me for the same reason. But, that is no more. I mean, what with
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the advent of the 80386 (or was it the 486) and PC-relative addressing, IBM
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could even do true position-independant code. I mean let's face it. MS-Dos is
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no where close to OS-9/OSk in power /fexability, but when it comes to software
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support, there is just no comparason.
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As you might guess, I don't like Intel. From an assembly point of view, the
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8086 architecture really stinks. But then the rest of the 86 line stinks
|
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because Intel decided to remain fully compatible. But again, let's face it.
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The new 386/486 chips are
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no slouch. They may not have quite the power of the 68030/040, but I'm not
|
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going to notice any significant difference.
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I have put a lot of time and effort into the CoCo and OS-9. I'm currently
|
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writing a music editor that could rival most PC programs, and I love working on
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it. But I find myself haunted with questions like "Is it worth it?" The CoCo
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is dying. It outliv ed the Apple ][, but so what. Is it worth spending all my
|
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free time writing for a fossil? I can't salvage anything I do. I wrote it
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purely in 6809 assembly to get the speed I need. Is my program worth finishing?
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|
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The time has come to invest in a new computer. I made quite a number of
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suggestions about the "CoCo-4". I would truely like to see it become popular
|
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and widely used. But people won't use it unless the software is already there.
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But software doesn't u sually come until there is a user base. The way I see
|
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it, I have three choices for my new computer. (1) A TS9 with 68020/030, (2) An
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Amiga 3000, (3) IBM 386/486. I would prefer the TC9 just bacause it's an
|
|
environment I like to work in. But it's hard
|
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to work without the software and I can't write it all myself.
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|
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I'd like to know how other people feel about this. I'm sure their are others
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with the same dilema. I really don't know what to do next.
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Brian
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29580 20-MAY 08:00 General Information
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TC9/RS-DOS
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|
From: CBJ To: OS9UGPRES
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|
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Kev,
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|
I see from the Ad in June's RAINBOW that Frank's TC9 is to have RSDOS com-
|
|
patability. I understood that this was not possible (read that as likely) as
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the hardware was different. Is this a false claim or has Frank found a way to
|
|
get around the difficulties of using different hardware and addresses with his
|
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computer and maintaining RSDOS capability? Any info would be interesting.
|
|
Thanks, Carl
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29582 20-MAY 13:19 Users Group
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|
RE: MOTD (Re: Msg 28913)
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|
From: OS9UGED To: OS9BERT (NR)
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Yes, you should have your copy by now.
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29583 20-MAY 13:29 Telcom
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RE: wizpro (Re: Msg 28480)
|
|
From: OS9UGED To: LEFKA (NR)
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|
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|
Sounds like you don't have the AIF set up for the correct number of pages. Are
|
|
you using the AIF that I made?
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29589 20-MAY 16:43 General Information
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RE: SCI (Re: Msg 29434)
|
|
From: DISTO To: TEDJAEGER
|
|
|
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Ted,
|
|
there is a fix, you must contact CRC @ (514) 967-0195. I don't know if it
|
|
is free. There is a least a return shipping charge, but I don't know about any
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|
other charges. They will know. -Tony
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29590 20-MAY 16:46 General Information
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|
os-9 Notes
|
|
From: EUROCOCO To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Does anyone know what happened with the Os-9 Notes?? Also, is anyone willing
|
|
to send some up-to-date info on the Tomcat and MM1 to my mailbox on BitNet???
|
|
|
|
okPeter Tutelaers -The Netherlands-
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|
|
|
BitNet: s88405777@HSEPM1.HSE.NL.BITNET
|
|
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29591 20-MAY 16:50 General Information
|
|
RS to OS9
|
|
From: DBEARISTO To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Can somebody please tell me how to copy files that were converted to OS-9 using
|
|
RS-OS9? When I use the copy command, I get error # 216.
|
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|
|
Darryn (DBEARISTO)
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|
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|
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|
|
29596 20-MAY 22:42 General Information
|
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RE: RS to OS9 (Re: Msg 29591)
|
|
From: ZACKSESSIONS To: DBEARISTO
|
|
|
|
I have used RS-OS9.BAS with success. 216 means that you didn't key in the
|
|
filename correctly. What is the exact command you are using? (read "we need more
|
|
|
|
explicit info to help you")
|
|
|
|
Zack
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
29605 20-MAY 23:46 General Information
|
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RE: RS to OS9 (Re: Msg 29596)
|
|
From: DBEARISTO To: ZACKSESSIONS
|
|
|
|
Ok, I was using the wrong filenames. I have successfully copied the files onto
|
|
a blank formatted OS-9 disk. However, when I try to run PAK, I get error #214
|
|
which means no permission. When I do a DIR E, I get this:
|
|
|
|
----r--r
|
|
|
|
as the attributes. I cannot rename this file. I cannot change the attributes.
|
|
The user is 0. What am I doing wrong. I have only Drive 0 (Drive 1 is on the
|
|
way). As I said, there is nothing on this disk except PAK.BIN and RAMDISK.PAK
|
|
|
|
Darryn (DBEARISTO)
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
29618 21-MAY 18:43 General Information
|
|
RE: RS to OS9 (Re: Msg 29605)
|
|
From: ZACKSESSIONS To: DBEARISTO
|
|
|
|
After you have modified a DECB formatted disk with RS-OS9.BAS, there is only ONE
|
|
|
|
thing you can to to the contents of that disk, and that is COPY the files to a
|
|
TRUE OS9 disk. You cannot change the attributes. You cannot modify the file. You
|
|
|
|
can only COPY if off the disk. You are in a bad way, with only one drive and one
|
|
|
|
of the things you want to get is RAMDISK!! You might try doing a backup using
|
|
the single disk option, but I'm not sure if backup would like to read the disk.
|
|
Is there anyone in your hometown who uses OS9 and has two drives? If not, looks
|
|
like you are going to have to wait until your second floppy arrives. Sorry,
|
|
maybe someone else has an idea.
|
|
|
|
Zack
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
29627 21-MAY 23:01 General Information
|
|
RE: RS to OS9 (Re: Msg 29618)
|
|
From: DBEARISTO To: ZACKSESSIONS
|
|
|
|
Ok, I am still new at this and it takes some getting used to. It finally dawned
|
|
|
|
on me that I had to load ATTR in memory from my system disk so that I could
|
|
change the attributes of the files I put on my blank OS-9 disk. I did that
|
|
successfully and also was able to load PAK and AR into memory. However, when I
|
|
typed: pak -x ramdisk the program started ok, printing the headings on the
|
|
screen, then it said: pak: can't open ramdisk.PAK I have changed that ATTR on
|
|
all these files to --ewrewr, so there should be no problem, right? Is there
|
|
some other obscure OS-9 thing I should be doing before I try and unPAK ramdisk?
|
|
Yes, I did chd /d0 and chx/d0/cmds where ramdisk is stored.
|
|
|
|
Any ideas?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Darryn (DBEARISTO)
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29649 22-MAY 19:37 General Information
|
|
RE: RS to OS9 (Re: Msg 29627)
|
|
From: ZACKSESSIONS To: DBEARISTO
|
|
|
|
The only other problem I am aware of with PAK is if the archive file was
|
|
downloaded with XModem, it can have some XModem padding on the end of it. PAK
|
|
chokes on that before it even extracts the first file. Do you have dEd? If so,
|
|
edit the archive file, skip to the end of the file and see if there are any $1A
|
|
characters there. That's the XModem padding. Determine the offset of the first
|
|
$1A starting from the end of the file, and "diddle" the file length to that
|
|
offset. Then try unPAKing it again. Oh, best to dEd a COPY of the file, not the
|
|
only copy you have, cuz once it's done, it's done!
|
|
|
|
If you don't have dEd, it's available in the Utilities lib.
|
|
|
|
Zack
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29652 22-MAY 20:49 General Information
|
|
RE: RS to OS9 (Re: Msg 29649)
|
|
From: DBEARISTO To: ZACKSESSIONS (NR)
|
|
|
|
Thanks for the help. I'll give it a try.
|
|
|
|
Darryn.
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
End of Thread.
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|
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|
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|
|
|
|
29594 20-MAY 21:34 General Information
|
|
RSOS9
|
|
From: CHYDE To: DBEARISTO
|
|
|
|
To copy the file with the converted disk in /d1 and copying it to /d0 use copy
|
|
/d1/filename /d0/filename. That should work. As an aside if copy isn't in
|
|
n
|
|
your current cmds dir you will get a 216 error too (and it's not in memory).
|
|
It's load into memory on startup if your using the shell given on the Level 2
|
|
disk. I hope this helps some.
|
|
|
|
Chris
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29595 20-MAY 22:40 Programmers Den
|
|
RE: os9 68k software (Re: Msg 29200)
|
|
From: OS9UGED To: OS9UGPRES
|
|
|
|
You mean OS9K... not OSK Right? <grin>
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29599 20-MAY 22:48 Tutorials & Education
|
|
RE: Two Ramdisks? (Re: Msg 29240)
|
|
From: R90S To: ZACKSESSIONS
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29606 21-MAY 00:18 Telcom
|
|
New Modem
|
|
From: CTL56 To: ALL
|
|
|
|
I need help in settingup a new modem. I just got a 2400 Baud Modem that is
|
|
Hayes Comp. The problem is that I can not get it to do anything. I have tried
|
|
using OSterm V2.08, SuperComm and KBcom. I can not get the modem to respond to
|
|
any commands that are supposed to be sent to the modem. The lights on the Modem
|
|
|
|
that are on are RD, TR and MR(modem ready). I have tried to use the Iniz
|
|
section of OSterm and have gotten no where.
|
|
|
|
BTW, I am using a SC-II with a 3-in-1 Board and a RS DCM-6 Modem now and I have
|
|
no problem with that (after I installed the "diode hack").
|
|
|
|
Any suggestions would be helpful, because I don't like 300 Baud, my phone bill
|
|
is outragious now.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Thanks to ALL
|
|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
29608 21-MAY 01:41 Telcom
|
|
RE: New Modem (Re: Msg 29606)
|
|
From: DODGECOLT To: CTL56
|
|
|
|
Is your modem set up to hold the data carrier (CD) high all the time? The
|
|
ACIAPAK driver (for the serial port on your 3-in-1) needs to see the carrier
|
|
high before it will do anything...
|
|
-Mike
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29628 21-MAY 23:16 Telcom
|
|
RE: New Modem (Re: Msg 29608)
|
|
From: CTL56 To: DODGECOLT (NR)
|
|
|
|
I am not sure that I am sure that I no how to set the Data Carrier (CD) high.
|
|
know how to set the Data Carrier (CD) high. If you could give me information on
|
|
how to do this. If I could get the modem to answer I think I could set the CD to
|
|
|
|
the High position. But until then, I will keep using this 300Baud.
|
|
|
|
Thanks for what you have given me.
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|
|
|
|
|
-*-
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|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29609 21-MAY 02:55 Patches
|
|
Vi
|
|
From: DAMIONGREY To: RICKADAMS (NR)
|
|
|
|
Rick - I did find one bug in vi. T/S Edit has two undocumented (as far as
|
|
I know, anyway) commands: <shift> t and <shift> l. The former toggles the
|
|
editor into text mode (word wrap/show CRs) if it was in line mode (program
|
|
mode) and the latter does the opposite. When I try to use these commands in
|
|
vi, it munges the file in mem. I can't give any more details, because I've
|
|
not looked further into it yet, but this is an unfortunate bug, as I use
|
|
these commands fairly often. Otherwise the patches look good; much faster!!
|
|
-:- Greg
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29612 21-MAY 04:06 General Information
|
|
IT works, FINALLY!
|
|
From: TIMKOONCE To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Whew! My Disto SCII finally works in no-halt mode. I originally bought it just
|
|
|
|
about two years ago, but when I re-packaged my CoCo into an AT case three months
|
|
|
|
later, I wasn't able to get the no-halt mode to work. I went through at least 20
|
|
|
|
different boot orders, and tried every trick I could think of software-wise, but
|
|
|
|
all to no avail. Now, after nearly two years without it working correctly, I
|
|
managed to get it to work by doing the following hardware hacks:
|
|
|
|
1) wrapping aluminum foil around the Y-cable to shield it,
|
|
2) Putting a 1000 ufd cap on the CoCo +5 line
|
|
3) Putting a 4700 ufd cap on the +5 line at the Y cable.
|
|
|
|
These were suggested to me by some comments I saw here from various people.
|
|
Now, it all seems to work just fine, except for the standard bout of software
|
|
peculiarities. Can anyone explain to me why the no-halt drivers seem to
|
|
generate this weird IDIR entry?? It has no device driver name showing, so I
|
|
really don't know where it comes from. I don't think it was there before I put
|
|
the no-halt drivers in.
|
|
- Tim Koonce
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29625 21-MAY 22:49 General Information
|
|
RE: IT works, FINALLY! (Re: Msg 29612)
|
|
From: GREGL To: TIMKOONCE (NR)
|
|
|
|
Tim,
|
|
|
|
That "dead" interrupt polling entry could be caused by the disk driver not
|
|
being initialized. Try an 'iniz /d0' and see if that fixes the problem. I am
|
|
assuming that no-halt driver is interrupt-driven of course.
|
|
|
|
-- Greg
|
|
|
|
-*-
|
|
|
|
End of Thread.
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
29613 21-MAY 06:55 Utilities
|
|
.AR files
|
|
From: HAZE To: ALL
|
|
|
|
Could you please tell me how to de-archive files in database, ...which utility
|
|
to down load, ...exact proceedure to de-archive downloaded files, ...do I use
|
|
put the de-archive utility on my execution directory or run in from basic. I
|
|
use Autoterm and use Burke & Burke HCOPY to translate my files to os9 for my
|
|
Ultimuse and other os9 programs and files. I don't like to mess with RS232 pack.
|
|
|
|
I also use a Avatex 1200 modem. This proceedure works for my uploading and
|
|
downloading Ultimuse data files, not .AR fi l? Please help! Thanks.
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
29619 21-MAY 18:56 Utilities
|
|
RE: .AR files (Re: Msg 29613)
|
|
From: ZACKSESSIONS To: HAZE (NR)
|
|
|
|
There are two major arch/dearching programs for OS9 Level 2. One is Ar, and the
|
|
Other is Pak. For the most part, file descriptions mention which archiver is
|
|
needed to dearch the file(s). If it not mentioned, then it should be obvious
|
|
from the file extension, .ar is used for Ar, and .pak is used for Pak.
|
|
|
|
Once you have downloaded the archive file you then need to dearchive it. Here is
|
|
|
|
a sample script of commands to dearchive something:
|
|
|
|
<file is downloaded to /r0/banner.ar first>
|
|
OS9: makdir /dd/banner
|
|
OS9: chd /dd/banner
|
|
OS9: ar -x /r0/banner.ar
|
|
OS9: attr banner.bin pe e
|
|
OS9: copy banner.bin /dd/cmds/banner
|
|
|
|
Note that Ar dearchives the files in the archive file to your current data
|
|
directory. Also, execution attributes are lost and need to be rest for any file
|
|
which is an executable binary. Pak works virtually identical to Ar. Both come
|
|
with adequate documentation files which describe their use, and have "built in"
|
|
help, just enter ar or pak ar the OS9: prompt, and they will tell you how to use
|
|
|
|
them.
|
|
|
|
Also, xmodem padding can cause you some grief. With ar archives, ar just
|
|
complains that the file isn't in archive format AFTER it has already dearched
|
|
all the files contained in it. Pak is less forgiving. It complains at the onset.
|
|
|
|
There are two ways to solve the padding with Pak archives. There is a utility in
|
|
|
|
the Utils lib which will "fix" the archive file. Or you can edit the archive
|
|
file with your favorite disk editor, like dEd (also in the utils; ;lib) and
|
|
"diddle" with the file length, chopping off all bytes at the end of the file
|
|
which are $1A.
|
|
|
|
Hope this helps,
|
|
|
|
Zack
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
29621 21-MAY 20:08 Utilities
|
|
RE: .AR files (Re: Msg 29613)
|
|
From: NES To: HAZE (NR)
|
|
|
|
Haze: ar work's like this:
|
|
AR -X FILE.AR (-X mean's extrack files from the arcive)
|
|
AR is a os9 utility and must be used under os9. also PAK is another os9 arc
|
|
program work's like AR: PAK -X FILE note dont put the extenion .pak at the
|
|
|
|
end of the name. Hope this help's NES
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
End of Thread.
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|
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|
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|
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|
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29614 21-MAY 13:41 General Information
|
|
ADAPTEC Controller
|
|
From: KEITHMARCH To: PKW
|
|
|
|
Kevin:
|
|
Paul:
|
|
|
|
What kind of SCSI Controller do you recommend me to use with
|
|
my MFM 40 Meg. Seagate ST251-0 Hard Drive (Interface ST412)
|
|
and the MM/1?
|
|
|
|
See page 589 in the JUNE issue of Computer Shopper!
|
|
|
|
1) ADAPTEC 5500 SCSI Controller. (SCSI-ST506/412-$79)
|
|
2) ADAPTEC 4000A SCSI Controller. (SCSI-ST506/412-$89)
|
|
What is the difference between the two above?
|
|
Is one a Floppy and the other Floppy/Hard Controller?
|
|
3) ST-01 Seagate SCSI Controller. (Hard Only)
|
|
4) ST-02 Seagate SCSI Controller. (Hard/Floppy)
|
|
|
|
Thanks very much;
|
|
|
|
Keith
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
|
29648 22-MAY 14:43 General Information
|
|
RE: ADAPTEC Controller (Re: Msg 29614)
|
|
From: PKW To: KEITHMARCH (NR)
|
|
|
|
Keith,
|
|
|
|
I've got that data around somehwere. I'll let you know if I find the SCSI
|
|
controller info soon. If you don't hear from me, give me a jingle.
|
|
|
|
Best,
|
|
|
|
Paul
|
|
|
|
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|
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|
End of Thread.
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|
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|
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|
|
29615 21-MAY 13:43 General Information
|
|
SCSI Hard Disk Controllers.
|
|
From: KEITHMARCH To: OS9UGPRES (NR)
|
|
|
|
Kevin:
|
|
Paul:
|
|
|
|
What kind of SCSI Controller do you recommend me to use with
|
|
my MFM 40 Meg. Seagate ST251-0 Hard Drive (Interface ST412)
|
|
and the MM/1?
|
|
|
|
See page 589 in the JUNE issue of Computer Shopper!
|
|
|
|
1) ADAPTEC 5500 SCSI Controller. (SCSI-ST506/412-$79)
|
|
2) ADAPTEC 4000A SCSI Controller. (SCSI-ST506/412-$89)
|
|
What is the difference between the two above?
|
|
Is one a Floppy and the other Floppy/Hard Controller?
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3) ST-01 Seagate SCSI Controller. (Hard Only)
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4) ST-02 Seagate SCSI Controller. (Hard/Floppy)
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Thanks very much;
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Keith
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29616 21-MAY 14:37 General Information
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Controllers (Hard)
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From: KEITHMARCH To: OS9UGPRES (NR)
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Kevin:
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I found out the difference between the ADAPTEC 5500 and 4000 SCSI Hard Disk
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Controllers.
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The 5500 supports 2 Hard dirrives.
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The 4000 supports 4 Hard drives.
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So can I get the 5500?
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Thanks
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Keith
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29617 21-MAY 14:39 General Information
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Read a Message.
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From: KEITHMARCH To: PKW
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Paul,
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Please read the OS-9 Forum mess # 29616
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Thanks;
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Keith
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29623 21-MAY 22:19 Programmers Den
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BALLS.C
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From: NES To: DODGECOLT (NR)
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Mike, have trouble compiling your balls.c with the new cgfx.l Unresolved
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references:
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strlen crw in /dd/lib/clib.l
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malloc object_c in /dd/lib/clib.l
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free object_c in /dd/lib/clib.l
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ccasr object_c in /dd/lib/clib.l linker fatal: unresolved
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references
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Do you know what mite be causeing these error's. I have the Kreider lib. Nes
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29626 21-MAY 22:55 Programmers Den
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RE: BALLS.C (Re: Msg 29623)
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From: GREGL To: NES (NR)
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Eric,
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Make absolutely sure you include the cgfx.l library before the clib.l
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library on the command line. That is:
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rlink /dd/lib/cstart.r myfile.r /dd/lib/cgfx.l /dd/lib/clib.l
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You want the linker to search cgfx.l first so that it can find any references in
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cgfx.l that refer to routines within the clib.l library. Fun, eh?
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-- Greg
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End of Thread.
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29629 21-MAY 23:55 General Information
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CoCo 4?
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From: TONYSCHOUNTZ To: ALL
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What's this on a 'CoCo 4' from K. Liegh? Please enlighten me. What's the
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specsand all on this machine?
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- Tony
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29630 21-MAY 23:58 Patches
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Printing with Phantomgraph
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From: TONYSCHOUNTZ To: ALL
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I've got a problem with Phantomgraph. Using the IBM driver, the printer fails
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perform a line feed (I think it's 1/6th line feed) to my Epson T-1000 printer.
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I've tried using debug to find the problem, but I can't. The Tandy driver
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doesn't work at all. Any help is appreciated.
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Thanks
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Tony
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29634 22-MAY 00:43 General Information
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From: GENEDEAL To: ALL
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I am having a tough time with garbage tonight when trying to leave messages. I'm
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kinda new to telecom. and could use some wisdom from the wise guys of old.
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Gene Deal
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29635 22-MAY 00:49 General Information
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RE: Problems, problems... (Re: Msg 29507)
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From: KMTHOMPSON To: OS9UGPRES (NR)
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Kev,
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I am thinking perhaps that it IS software troubles, now, however, I'm
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extremely unsure on that. I still get the BUZZ, but I've found some new
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oddities. If I run Koronis rift off my standard boot on my Hard Drive, I
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get the buzz, but I tried booting off the original Koronis disk today and I
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get NO BUZZ. Which helps explain why I get no buzz with RS-DOS joystick
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use--and also no mouse buzz whatsoever. (Hi- or Lo-res). The only thing I
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had changed with my OS9Boot file was I added my own V0.dw window to the
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boot, by XModing a standard window to VDG, and then using EZGen to change
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the name. (Got the idea from Zack Sessions--Thanks Zack!) Anyway, it
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worked fine, initially, but since it was the only thing I had changed in my
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boot I took it out. This DID NOT cure the buzz, so V0 is not the culprit
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(as I really didn't think it would be, but...) <S*I*G*H!!!> Kinda makes
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me wish it WAS a hardware problem... Is it? I dunno if this will help,
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but here is an IDENT -s of my OS9Boot: (gonna be kinda LONG.. Sorry to
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those uninterested!
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OS9: Ident OS9Boot -s
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17 $C0 $47B370 . OS9p2
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1 $C1 $3B3304 . OS9p3
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12 $C1 $FD1FEA . IOMan
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67 $C0 $680456 . Init
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5 $11 $B24E78 . CC3Go
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10 $C1 $A18121 . Clock
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28 $D1 $EFBE13 . RBF
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4 $E1 $93585F . BBhdisk
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33 $F1 $2194D8 . dd
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99 $F1 $6389A4 . D0
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10 $E1 $195C7B . CC3Disk
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82 $F1 $33FAA2 . F0
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82 $F1 $37E708 . F1
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1 $E1 $9F1D9C . Ram
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1 $F1 $B8412F . R0
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13 $D1 $391038 . SCF
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12 $E1 $CC3EA4 . PRINTER
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83 $F1 $DB33E4 . P
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12 $E1 $2D7DBE . ACIAPAK
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82 $F1 $1A655F . T2
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16 $E1 $14BA44 . CC3IO
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1 $C1 $11ED90 . VDGInt
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83 $F1 $B0C304 . V0
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18 $C1 $744DB8 . WindInt
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83 $F1 $69AB82 . Term
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83 $F1 $F8D0CB . W
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83 $F1 $7283DA . W1
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83 $F1 $80B69C . W2
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83 $F1 $EA7B58 . W3
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83 $F1 $1FC652 . W4
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83 $F1 $CF5BA9 . W5
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83 $F1 $AD9134 . W6
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83 $F1 $A23911 . W7
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83 $F1 $61AAC6 . W8
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83 $F1 $F3AAE7 . W9
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83 $F1 $CCA133 . W10
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83 $F1 $45A5E6 . W11
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83 $F1 $DEBB03 . W12
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83 $F1 $57BFD6 . W13
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83 $F1 $68B2C2 . W14
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83 $F1 $E1B617 . W15
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4 $D1 $AD6718 . PipeMan
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2 $E1 $5B2B56 . Piper
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80 $F1 $CC06AF . Pipe
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0 $E1 $681B28 . FT
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83 $F1 $0E846A . FTDD
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22 $E1 $A128BF . AGIVIRQDr
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83 $F1 $577429 . VI
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See anything odd?
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--]<elly
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29636 22-MAY 00:55 Programmers Den
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RE: file size & basic09 (Re: Msg 29535)
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From: THEFERRET To: GREGL
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yes, I know, but xmode doesn'7t work on disk devices.
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29650 22-MAY 19:44 Programmers Den
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RE: file size & basic09 (Re: Msg 29636)
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From: ZACKSESSIONS To: THEFERRET (NR)
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Ahh, but DMODE does! And it's in the Utilitites library.
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Zack
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End of Thread.
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29639 22-MAY 06:38 General Information
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RE: Pictures Needed (Re: Msg 29378)
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From: IVANSC To: DALEP (NR)
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Ddale!!!!!! Just got the second Rainbow with no Kissable OS9 - hope this is just
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due to your move, as I really miss your input. Regards, Ivan the Englishman.
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(incidentally, now you live in the next State to me, maybe we can both lobby for
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a Southern Rainbowfest! (grin)
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29640 22-MAY 06:45 General Information
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RE: Pictures Needed (Re: Msg 29639)
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From: TRIX To: IVANSC (NR)
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I'll vote for that! <grin>
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Ivan, have you heard about the CoCoFest they're gonna try to have in Atlanta?
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-John.
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End of Thread.
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29641 22-MAY 06:59 General Information
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your utility disk
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From: IVANSC To: ZACKSESSIONS
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I am interested! Ivan Scanlon-Ccarling 908 Traceton Court Antioch TN 37013
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29643 22-MAY 14:34 General Information
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RE: OS9 vs. UniFlex (Re: Msg 29484)
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From: PKW To: PAGAN (NR)
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Stephen,
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You vote for OSK has been duly noted!
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Thanks for the interest, and I believe you will be very pleased.
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Paul
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29644 22-MAY 14:35 General Information
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RE: OS9 vs. UniFlex (Re: Msg 29486)
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From: PKW To: MRGOOD
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Hugo,
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Well, you are not alone in preferring OS-9.
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We'll be in touch.
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Paul
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End of Thread.
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29645 22-MAY 14:38 General Information
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RE: Rainbowfest New 68000 Machine Report (Re: Msg 29517)
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From: PKW To: MARTYGOODMAN (NR)
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Yes, Marty,
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There are a few design compromises in the MM/1, but mostly these are not
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critical compromises. We've acheived most of the cost-effectiveneness via a high
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degreen of integrations. We use the 68070s built-in serial port, we use a 68901
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for a handful of serial stuff, and so on.
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Progress reports are on the way!
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Good suggestion..
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Glad you a over the flu!
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Now I'm getting one (groan).
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Paul
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29646 22-MAY 14:39 General Information
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RE: Rainbowfest New 68000 Machine Report (Re: Msg 29518)
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From: PKW To: MARTYGOODMAN (NR)
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Yes,
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|
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full 32-bit wide bus iss built-in to the design. We may offer both a sixteen AND
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a thirty-two bit buss, but I am opting for a single design now.
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Paul
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29647 22-MAY 14:42 General Information
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RE: Rainbowfest New 68000 Machine Report (Re: Msg 29520)
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From: PKW To: MARTYGOODMAN (NR)
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|
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I think that you are right when you say that 640 x 200 or so is quite fine for
|
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text editing. However, from the marketing standpoint, 640 x 200 may NOT be
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enough.
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|
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For some people, a CoCo serves their needs quite competently. It's just not been
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MARKETED well, and now that the market has increased our expectations of
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computer power, the CoCo - although competent -- will not attract a great deal
|
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of attention beyond our domain.
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The future for most of us will come from entering the 'mainstream' -- staying up
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to date with popular software and hardware standards.
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IOW, the higher-res modes just help keep the M/1 "mainstream".
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Paul
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End of Thread.
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29651 22-MAY 19:47 Graphics & Music
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Go Bulls!!
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From: ZACKSESSIONS To: ALL
|
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Hey, all y'all graphics nuts! Check out my first original VEF graphic, now in
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the New Uploads library, called "GO BULLS!!".
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Zack
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