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#: 5769 S10/Tandy CoCo
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01-Aug-90 22:24:49
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Sb: #5720-elim + MV
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Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Boot files is about 32K or something like that. JS
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#: 5770 S10/Tandy CoCo
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01-Aug-90 22:26:06
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Sb: #5720-elim + MV
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Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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Am rebuilding my bootfie and et you know kOexacty what happens later. JS
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#: 5771 S15/Hot Topics
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01-Aug-90 23:44:55
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Sb: #5584-OSK - passwords?
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Pete, I think you are right -- no encryption. I don't mind setting a new
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standard here. After all, we need to thing Real World here. If you wish to
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propose that we use Carl's thingie, let's make it official and post it on the
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DL16 as a MUST READ THIS STANDARD file.
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Paul
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#: 5789 S15/Hot Topics
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03-Aug-90 08:53:41
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Sb: #5762-OSK - passwords?
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)
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Re: high level vs. low level .....
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You sound a lot like I did shortly after my conversion from assembler to C. At
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the time I was writing on a LI machine so there was some basis for the
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speed/space argument. I even rewrote the MW library in assembler to get speed
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up and size down. It made a very big difference in printf. One day I
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discovered that stream I/O is generally much faster than write[ln] (due to the
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buffering). I gradually gave up swimming upstream and opted for the easier to
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use and faster high level I/O. But it is nice to see that the religious fervor
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and enthusiasm of youth still exists. Sometimes it is fun to do it your own
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way just because you want to.
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Carl
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#: 5812 S15/Hot Topics
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04-Aug-90 01:04:16
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Sb: #5762-OSK - passwords?
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)
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I wonder if we are discussing standards, or just alternate ways of doing
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things. After all, if you want to use wrln() instead of the library function
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fgets(), so what? There is nothing non-standard here. However, if you change a
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standard library function so that it takes different arguments - then I can see
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problems arising. I've seen a number of complaints about using buffered i/o.
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I'm certainly not a C-guru, but I wonder if this is valid. By buffering C
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avoids multiple calls to the OS9 system (which is full of overhead). In many of
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my RMA programs I have had to devise my own buffering systems - in C it is
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already done. Why not use it? So far as printf() goes, yes it is a tad slow and
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large. Unless I have a lot of formatted I/O then I find it just as effecient to
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call the conversion functions and cat my own strings. It just depends.
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#: 5864 S15/Hot Topics
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05-Aug-90 03:19:13
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Sb: #5712-OSK - passwords?
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Fm: Robert A. Larson 75126,723
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Creating new standards when there is a real need is fine, but I don't realy
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think the posix/unix password routines have major problems that can't be solved
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in an upward-compatable manner. (Posix is an effort to standardize what is
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good in unix without actually specifying that you must be unix...) If and when
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I write my own login package, it will use a publicly readable file for most
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information, and store encrypted passwords in a non-readable file.
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There is a lot of free software writen for unix that can be ported to os9, and
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making things like password files compatable makes porting them easier and more
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likly. Someday I may release the library I'm working on that aids in porting
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unix programs to os9/68k.
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#: 5772 S15/Hot Topics
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01-Aug-90 23:47:31
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Sb: #5628-MM/1 question?
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
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Jim,
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Interesting about that new video technology!
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A math coprocessor can be used as a peripheral on the bus. Let us know if you
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REALLY need one once you get an MM/1.
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Paul
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#: 5773 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
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01-Aug-90 23:47:59
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Sb: Tandy Coco III for Sale
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Fm: John S. Kennedy 72217,416
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To: all
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FOR SALE
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Color Computer III by Tandy
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* 512K Ram
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* CM-8 Color Monitor
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* 2 double sided disk drives
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* Multi-pak interface
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w/pal chip upgrade
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* Cassette drive for data storage
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* Direct connect modem 300 b.p.s.
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* 3 Joysticks
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and a high resolution interface
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* Near letter quality
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dot matrix printer
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ALL manuals included for everything. Over 500 programs, games, adventures and
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all the utilities needed for any project at home or small business. A GREAT
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little computer for the kids. Manual has step by step instructions on how to
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program in BASIC. There is an operating system OS-9 II for the big programs to
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make any job easy.
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ASKING $1000 or make offer.
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Call Steve after 6:00 p.m. 513-251-1766
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#: 5774 S4/MIDI and Music
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02-Aug-90 00:12:28
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Sb: #5562-#midi help
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Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X)
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Lester,
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Well, our sales director has just started lining up franchises and dealers. We
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project that the most populous states will be excellent representation by late
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spring.
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Paul
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#: 5902 S4/MIDI and Music
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06-Aug-90 08:46:23
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Sb: #5774-midi help
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Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430
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To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
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Sounds like you're on the right track! Hope you sell bunches! The computer
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world needs an alternative to OS/2...
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#: 5775 S15/Hot Topics
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02-Aug-90 00:13:12
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Sb: #5751-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob;
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Butting in here...
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The APL II guys at work are something else! It's like they're in a whole
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different world than the rest of us. ;-)
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We tend to rib them about writing in Sanskrit - that's about as intelligible
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as it appears to outsiders! Did you ever become proficient at it? As cryptic
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as it appears, they can whip out a report-type program in about half the time
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it takes us using more conventional languages, so I guess it isn't without
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value.
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..Jim O_o AACK!
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=( )=
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U
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#: 5811 S15/Hot Topics
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04-Aug-90 01:03:59
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Sb: #5775-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
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What, me proficient at APL. No way! As I recall I got to the point where I
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could get the largest number of an array and sort it, etc. I think I even
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managed to print out a calendar (from someone elses source), but I never got
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into it at all. If memory serves me right a real old issue of 80-micro had an
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APL interpreter written in Basic! An interesting language, but somehow I don't
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think it will ever become mainstream. Out of interest, what kind of things are
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your APL guys doing?
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#: 5831 S15/Hot Topics
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04-Aug-90 13:16:26
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Sb: #5811-Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
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Bob;
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The APL II guys mostly generate reports from DB2 data. Agree that it most
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likely won't ever be 'mainstream', but those that DO use it are almost as
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fanatical about it as we are about OS-9!
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..Jim O_o AACK!
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=( )=
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U
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03-Aug-90 16:46:02
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Sb: #5544-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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In my experience, just about any change in the source adds abt 3k to the
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executable. In B09, same change adds 10-20 bytes. (I realize that you can
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optimize the ASM source if you C compile to that first).
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#: 5801 S15/Hot Topics
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03-Aug-90 17:50:41
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Sb: #5795-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 (X)
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Bill -
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The initial startup code runs 3-5K. Subsequent to that, the first use of a new
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function adds ?.?k bytes as a one time cost. Since the adoption of the Kreider
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Libraries, that cost has been reduced, as functions are written as economically
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as possible in RMA.
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I don't want to turn this into a contest, but adding 3k to an executable per
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"change in the source" is probably not a supportable statement, at least not as
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a freestanding generalization. If you had no code, then added 'printf()' to it,
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you'd incur a 3-5K penalty.... one time. Likewise with another complex function
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(like 'scanf()')... but again, only one time. Most functions are not NEARLY
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that expensive, and only penalize you on their first use (subsequent uses are
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effectively free, barring the stack frame setup and jsr <function>
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instructions.)
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My point is not that C is better than B09 (although B09 will cost you 12K
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minimum, for Runb), nor vice versa. My point is simply that C isn't as unruly
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as you suggest in terms of memory usage.
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Pete
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P.S. Can you tell I've been on jury duty all week?
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#: 5805 S15/Hot Topics
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03-Aug-90 21:30:04
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Sb: #5801-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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No Pete, I thought you was just being yer old self. <grin>
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Anyhow, my tests here *have* shown... & I did use added printf functions, that,
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on average, I picked up 3k in the executables. Now then I was using the MW
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libs. When I compiled to ASM, & looked at the source, I saw many repeats of
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what looked like similar code. Now... I don't think that you can say that B09
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is "better" than C or vice versa. Like are apples better than oranges? Your
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point is well taken, (I concede), that "C isn't as unruly....". I really
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shoulda known that things have changed in the last two years. Now.... I've got
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a Hard Drive problem. (HELP!). All of a sudden I'm picking up read errors on my
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ST225. (random files, all parts of the drive). I'm using Bruces Eliminator &
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WD1005G setup. Question is... should I just go ahead & reformat & restore? or
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given those symptoms, is that likely to do any good? Mabye I should look for
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other probs before I give up? BTW Bruce is out of town.
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04-Aug-90 12:55:28
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Sb: #5805-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 (X)
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Bill -
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Depends on the class of problems... if they're just 243's (CRC errors),
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frequently reading and then rewriting the sector will fix it. If they are
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241's, 244's (worse yet 245's), I'd consider an exodus backup, and then a
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reformat & restore.
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Pete
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#: 5844 S15/Hot Topics
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04-Aug-90 17:40:09
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Sb: #5829-Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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Thanks Pete. They are all 244's. I'll do a format & restore.
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04-Aug-90 08:30:57
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Sb: #5801-Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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The phrase "freestanding generalization" was a clue! ;-)
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Bill
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#: 5802 S15/Hot Topics
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03-Aug-90 18:01:16
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Sb: #5795-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 (X)
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Wow! 3K for one change? That would be true if calls to new functions were
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added, but not at all true if no new functions were used in the changes.
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For large scale projects, that do lots of different things, including lots of
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math and function calls, then the resulting B09 object MIGHT be smaller, but
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probably not by much. I have seen some large B09 programs, and would MUCH
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rather use C! (and I used to think that C was cryptic)
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It IS important that a C programmer be at least partially aware of the asm code
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generated, as how the C program is coded may make a drastic change in object
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size or speed of the program. This isn't any where near as critical for B09
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code.
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Bill
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03-Aug-90 21:33:33
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Sb: #5802-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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See my reply to Pete. BTW, any idea why my ProAcia users are getting system
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hangs when they TERM the driver *after* installing Bruce's "improved" clock
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module?
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04-Aug-90 09:04:00
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Sb: #5806-#Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
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To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 (X)
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I can't think of any reason it should hang. The way Bruce explained it to me,
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the new clock module does some things with the GIME that the original ACIAPAK
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(and I assume PROACIA) had to do. He was fairly sure that while it was no
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longer necessary for the serial driver to do these things, it wouldn't hurt
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anything if it did. I wonder if the original ACIAPAK works with the clock
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module?
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Bill
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04-Aug-90 11:47:09
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Sb: #5819-Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
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Good question re the original ACIAPAK. Dunno if it is affected.
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03-Aug-90 16:42:29
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Sb: #5535-Is Basic out of date?
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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I'd be blissful with syscall! But your idea would be a great enhancement. BTW I
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need to talk to you on the tele. The State of Iowa has issued an RFP to us for
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one of our Permit Testing Systems. Is now the time to convert to OS-9000? (you
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know how I hate Novell/MessyDos!)
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02-Aug-90 04:02:00
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Sb: #5766-#Reading Directorys
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Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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I DID IT!!!! I got it to read correctly and I can see what it is doing now.
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I'll finish writing this little demo for everyone to look at. It will read a
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directory and show it in a 'dir e' type listing. I should have it done pretty
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soon. I feel like I'm coming down the other side of the mountain! (whew!) I'll
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leave you a message when I upload it.
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Thanks for the help! George
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#: 5777 S9/Utilities
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02-Aug-90 08:50:27
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Sb: #5776-#Reading Directorys
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 (X)
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George -
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Good deal! Glad we were able to lend a hand.
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Pete
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04-Aug-90 13:25:48
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Sb: #5777-Reading Directorys
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Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
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To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
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I've got it all together. I'll upload it now. The filename will be readdir.pak
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or something like that.
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#: 5778 S10/Tandy CoCo
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02-Aug-90 11:51:26
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Sb: #Sound.Master
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Fm: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
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To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)
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Hi I almost didn't see your msg.
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I wrote the program over a year ago and originally only intended to use it
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myself so I skipped over some of the niceties.
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Since everyone who has dropped me a line asks for mouse/joystick control and
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eliminating the /w7 hardcoding I plan to upload an updated version within 2
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weeks (if everything goes well). I have already started a C version which will
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include the above and more but that may be a while in coming.
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The driver is technically not capable of speech because when the device is
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opened by a program it starts by initializing the Cart. to receive sound data.
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However I have had it occasionally talk when I ECHOed a msg to it?!? I would
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suggest getting SSPAK.ar to use the speech capability. Should be somewhere on
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the sysem.
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And yes the driver does poke down the speed for unmodified S/SC's.
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Thanks for the msg. If you have any other comments pls send them my way.
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#: 5787 S10/Tandy CoCo
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03-Aug-90 08:05:02
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Sb: #5778-#Sound.Master
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Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
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To: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435 (X)
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Actually, the sscart driver does handle speech. I'm writing a program that
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reads in a file line by line, and reads it to you. My only problem is figuring
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out the delay required before sending out the next speech string. I tried
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peeking location ff7e, but it doesn't help. Do you have any insights as to how
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I could determine whether or not the cart is ready for the next string of
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characters?
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Hugo
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#: 5791 S10/Tandy CoCo
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03-Aug-90 15:33:29
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Sb: #5787-#Sound.Master
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Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
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To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)
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I found that multiplying the length of the string by 100 and making that the
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length of the delay (i.e. FOR count=1 to LEN(text)*100) was nearly perfect
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before sending the next string.
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#: 5823 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 11:12:54
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Sb: #5791-#Sound.Master
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Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
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To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
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Your method works, but only for sentences with mostly words. Throw in a couple
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of numbers, or more diificult words, and things don't work out so well. I think
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the best method would be to PEEK() the cartridge. However, when I peek at
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$ff7e, it doesn't help me. (see SSC manual page 6).
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Hugo
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#: 5838 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 13:59:17
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Sb: #5823-#Sound.Master
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Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
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To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)
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Interesting that the PEEK doesn't help. If I can ever find my manual maybe I
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can figure out something.
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Floyd
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#: 5840 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 16:11:59
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Sb: #5838-#Sound.Master
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Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
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To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
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Well, today, I got the peek to work. Turns out I was peeking before the text
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was sent out, not after. Switching the two statements made all the difference.
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Now, I just wish I had the knowledge to write a proper driver, instead of doing
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things illegally.
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I'd like to convert the program to C. My only problem is: How would I PEEK at a
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specific address using C?
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By the way, the basic09 version reads any text file now (as long as each line
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is terminated by a CR)
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Hugo
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#: 5846 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 18:26:42
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Sb: #5840-#Sound.Master
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Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
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To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)
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I'm not sure what mean about illegally, but if you want to write something
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requiring the speech/sound driver, all you have to do is make sure the user
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understands he needs this particular one. However, if the driver has been
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released as public domain (which I think it has), you can include it in any
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software you write as long as you do not get money for it. Of course, I could
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be wrong on all this! I don't think so, however. By the way, I called
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specifically to leave you a message about the PEEK, but you found out anyway!
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Floyd
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#: 5848 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 21:08:43
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Sb: #5846-Sound.Master
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
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From what I've read, there is *no* constraint on the use of something placed in
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the public domain. If someone puts a song, or a program, into the public
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domain, then anyone can do *anything* to it, including sell it (one would think
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someone would have to be pretty gullible to buy something freely available, but
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I've heard that the government was sold some public domain stuff for lotsa $$$
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once...) or incorporate it in a work that is not in the public domain.
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#: 5880 S10/Tandy CoCo
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05-Aug-90 16:16:55
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Sb: #5846-Sound.Master
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Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
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To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
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By illegally, I meant having to peek from the program rather than letting the
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device driver do all the work for me.
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Hugo
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#: 5779 S10/Tandy CoCo
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02-Aug-90 11:53:09
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Sb: #Sound Master
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Fm: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435
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To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
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Thanks for the kudos.
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Keep looking on the system because within 2 weeks I will upload a revised
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version of Sound.Master with joystick/mouse control and /w instead of /w7.
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I'm going to hold off on dragging the zippers until my C version (already well
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in the works).
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The Play Button idea is good with the joystick/mouse. It isn't very convenient
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when you have to use the arrow keys.
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I am planning to make it possible to save sound files under any file name in my
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C version.
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Also (definitely future) I would like to include other features of the S/SC
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like using its buffers and including musical note transcription. If you look in
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Appendix D of the manual it has musical note conversion.
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If you have any other comments let me know.
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-- Jim McDowell
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#: 5792 S10/Tandy CoCo
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03-Aug-90 15:39:58
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Sb: #5779-Sound Master
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Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
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To: JIM MCDOWELL 70721,435 (X)
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I KNEW there was a musical conversion chart in the docs but I can't find mine!
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I probably found them one day and decided "I'll never need these" and threw
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them away. I would love to be able to play music in the background while the
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program is drawing or accessing the disk. By the way, is there anyway for the
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driver to go back to the 2Mhz mode after receiving data? Also, why does the
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pack send popping noises when something is printed to the screen when the path
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to the pack is open? This only occurs after data has been sent to it.
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Floyd
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#: 5780 S3/Languages
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02-Aug-90 16:03:44
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Sb: #mktime function help
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Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
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To: all
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Can someone show me a c program fragment for the correct usage of the mktime()
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function.
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#: 5782 S3/Languages
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02-Aug-90 16:51:57
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Sb: #5780-mktime function help
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Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
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To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
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It's easy enough Scott.
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char str[12];
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FILE *out;
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strcpy(str,"temp.XXXXX");
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mktemp(str);
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out=fopen(str,"w");
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The above creates a file with a name such as temp.5 or temp.3 depending on what
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the process id is.
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#: 5783 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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02-Aug-90 17:37:28
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Sb: #TOP - Munich Release 2
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: ALL
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The balance of the documentation provided by TOP - Munich for Release 2 has
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been uploaded in DL12 as TOP6a.ar. These were supposed to be part of TOP6.ar
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but .....?
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Sorry if anyone has been inconvenienced.
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Ed
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#: 5784 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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02-Aug-90 22:51:56
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Sb: #5783-TOP - Munich Release 2
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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Thanks for the extra efforts, Ed. It's really appreciated!
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Steve
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#: 5785 S3/Languages
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03-Aug-90 04:36:12
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Sb: #CoCo 3 'C'
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Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
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To: all
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is tpublic domain 'C' compiler available for the CoCo3?
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i've been wanting to get into 'C', but i've found that Rat-Shack
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no longer seems to have the 'C' compiler, at least, when i asked
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about it, no one knew what i was talking about. actually, some
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seemed to think that the idea of programming 'C' on the CoCo to
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be rather humorous.
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thanks,
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"KMA-68!!"
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>>>>>S S<<<<<
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#: 5786 S3/Languages
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03-Aug-90 05:54:26
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Sb: #5785-#CoCo 3 'C'
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X)
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Ed - I don't know of any PD C compilers for the coco. We thought about porting
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one for the KMAs, but since C is included on those, never mind ;-).
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Supposedly you can still order the coco C from Express Order Software. If you
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can find the old catalog number, you could beat up on yer local shack guy. Or
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call direct, I think. Anyone remember?
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Yah on the humorous part. Ed Gresick likes to remind people that some thought
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that running several users off multiple serial ports was funny, too <grin>.
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#: 5813 S3/Languages
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04-Aug-90 03:44:21
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Sb: #5786-#CoCo 3 'C'
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Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
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ok thanks, i'll get hold of the express order catalog and do that.
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as for humor, someone once asked me (in a serious tone no less!)
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"is a Color Computer anything like Nintendo?" all i could do not
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to laugh in his face!
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and as for Rip Shaft, well....
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..."KMA-68!!"
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>>>>>S S<<<<<
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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s
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#: 5818 S3/Languages
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04-Aug-90 08:56:29
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Sb: #5813-#CoCo 3 'C'
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X)
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In case the Rat Shack gives you grief about the Expw3res Order catalog, you can
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order it your self with a credit card. Call 1-800-321-3133. Cat Nu. 26-3038
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CMC. Retail price $99.95.
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Zack
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#: 5900 S3/Languages
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06-Aug-90 03:56:12
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Sb: #5818-CoCo 3 'C'
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Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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thanks, hopefully, i shouldn't have too much trouble if i go in
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telling them *exactly* what i want and that i know they'll have
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to express order it.
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"hopefully that is....;)"
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"KMA-68!!"
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>>>>>S S<<<<<
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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s
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#: 5788 S10/Tandy CoCo
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03-Aug-90 08:10:24
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Sb: #fractal program
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|
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
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To: bruce mackenzie
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Bruce,
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|
Love the fractal program. I have it running in the background even as I type.
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My only criticism (you knew it was coming!) is the awkward way of moving the
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zoom box around. I find it hard to be precise.
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Why not have the box move with actual movement of the mouse?
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Hugo
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#: 5799 S10/Tandy CoCo
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03-Aug-90 16:58:32
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Sb: #5788-fractal program
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Fm: Bruce MacKenzie 71725,376
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To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)
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Hugo,
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Glad to hear you like the program. I couldn't have the box follow the
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mouse directly because the mouse resolution is not great enough--64 positions
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to 320 for the screen. I agree the positioning is a bit awkward. I put in a
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delay after the first one pixle shift of the box before continuous movement
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begins. This allows you to 'bump' the box one pixle at a time by quickly
|
|
moving the mouse from the centered position to the action position and back to
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the centered position. Try this technique for fine adjustments of the box
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position.
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#: 5790 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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03-Aug-90 08:55:21
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Sb: #5403-#TOP - Munich Release 2.0
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Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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|
|
|
Was there a problem with top2.tz? Or top1 (earlier)? I notice that top12.tz
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seems munged - tar won't burst it.
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Thanks very much for the effort.
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Carl
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#: 5815 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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04-Aug-90 04:09:46
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Sb: #5790-TOP - Munich Release 2.0
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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Carl -
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They should be OK but I'll look into it.
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Ed
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#: 5820 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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04-Aug-90 09:30:01
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Sb: #5790-TOP - Munich Release 2.0
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Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
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To: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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Carl,
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Ed re-upped 1 and 2 to fix an archive problem, as I recall. Details escape me
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at the moment...
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|
Steve
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#: 5867 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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05-Aug-90 10:56:25
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Sb: #5790-#TOP - Munich Release 2.0
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Carl Kreider 71076,76
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|
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Hi Carl!
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I did do a re-upload of TOP1.TZ and TOP2.TZ. I did not 'tar' them correctly
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the first time.
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Did you use the 'compress' utility from TOP or from MW? TOP's 'compress'
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utility is a 16 bit compress. According to the TOP documentation, it is not
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compatible with MW's. Also, I used the TOP 'tar' utility. I don't know if
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|
it's compatible with other 'tar' utilities. TOP doesn't discuss 'tar'
|
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compatibility. Both of these utilities are in 'tar.ar' in dl12. If that's not
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the problem, let me know - I can re-upload that file.
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Ed
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#: 5888 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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05-Aug-90 17:12:32
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Sb: #5867-#TOP - Munich Release 2.0
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
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|
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I'd say that compatibility with MW's compress might not be all that important.
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MW's compress looks very much like it was written by someone who'd just read
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*Software Tools*, and while that is a very good book to read, the compression
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method it gave as an example is of minimal use on most text files. I'd be
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heavily surprised if anyone made much use of MW's compress program.
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#: 5901 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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06-Aug-90 04:01:15
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Sb: #5888-TOP - Munich Release 2.0
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Hi James!
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Until I started to upload the TOP series, I've never used compress so I have no
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experience with compress. Your comment is interesting - I'll remember that.
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|
Ed
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#: 5793 S1/General Interest
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03-Aug-90 15:59:32
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Sb: #OSK'er celebrity!
|
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Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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|
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
|
|
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|
Kevin,
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Just finished glancing through your interview in The OSK'er. Expected to see
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three little pictures of you down there on the bottom of the page, along with a
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foldout at the staples!
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|
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|
<grin>
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|
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|
Hmmm.... now, there's an idea that some industrious magazine publisher should
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try!
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(The girls of OS-9!)
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|
Wayne
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Hey, Scott????
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#: 5807 S1/General Interest
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03-Aug-90 21:50:26
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Sb: #5793-#OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)
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|
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|
Wayne,
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And would you believe it? His interview tape went bad on him, just as I
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started a 1/2-hour dialog on how I couldn't have done anything without this
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forum! ;-)
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|
|
|
I had no idea he was gonna print more than a paragraph or two <blush>. Me, I'd
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rather have seen the chess program article....
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|
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Full agreement on his needing a swimsuit issue! After all, MOTD already had
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one a year ago <grin>.
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kev
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#: 5825 S1/General Interest
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04-Aug-90 11:54:45
|
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Sb: #5807-#OSK'er celebrity!
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|
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
|
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
|
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|
|
Unh-huh... yeah... I can see you and the Prezident's secretary practicing the
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same 7th inning stretch, and ooops! There goes the tape!
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|
That's OK, though... for those of us who've known you for quite a while, we
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realize that you're much more socially acceptable, now that you're interacting
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with people on a regular basis! <grin>
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Wayne
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#: 5835 S1/General Interest
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04-Aug-90 13:32:09
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Sb: #5825-OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)
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|
|
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HAHAHA!
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Hey, I swear, my secretary was just leaning over her desk to get something, and
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had NO idea that her foot was on the "erase" pedal for the recorder.
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#: 5862 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-90 03:17:56
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Sb: #5807-OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: Robert A. Larson 75126,723
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To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
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|
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Swimsuit? Why would anyone want to wear one of those things that keeps you
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cold and clammy long after you get out of the water? (Seriously, if anyone
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needs info on clothing-optional recreation in southern California or national
|
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organizations, let me know.) Should I invite the os9 crowd next time I
|
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organize a trip to deep creek hot springs? (natural hot tubs and swimming hole)
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Personally, I thought the interview was more interesting than a chess program
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article would be. If the editor wanted to leave it raw like it was, I would
|
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have prefered the [omited] not be, otherwise he should have given you a chance
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to reword if he thought it nessisary.
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#: 5849 S1/General Interest
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04-Aug-90 21:29:50
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Sb: #5793-#OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
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To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)
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|
|
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Ugh, if there are any girls out there, they are hereby requested to make
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themselves known...
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;->
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I wonder if we could put in a foldout of the new computers?
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StG
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#: 5859 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-90 01:01:57
|
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Sb: #5849-#OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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|
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)
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|
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There definitely ARE some very attractive ladies involved in the OS-9
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community! Now, all you gotta do is find 'em!
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Wayne
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#: 5875 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-90 15:05:01
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Sb: #5859-#OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
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To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)
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Where? WHERE??? Lemme at'em! (that is, if they're not already spoken for...)
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That would be heaven - a gal that's not only cute but but can understand you
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when you start mumbling OS9erbish.]
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StG
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#: 5886 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-90 17:06:55
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Sb: #5875-#OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
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Well...you know, someone mentioned something about a year ago about nubile
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young OS-9 kernel hackers, but I never heard anything further on the subject.
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I'm still waiting. <grin> Well...you know, Scott, I think it was Tracy Lammardo
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who mentioned something
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#: 5897 S1/General Interest
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06-Aug-90 02:15:17
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Sb: #5886-OSK'er celebrity!
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Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
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Well, Tracy was one of the ones I was thinking about.. and of course, Marsha.
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Heck... all ya gotta do is open your eyes, right?
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<grin>
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#: 5796 S7/Telecommunications
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03-Aug-90 16:50:57
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Sb: #5555-WIZ Query
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)
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I guess you mean the printer drivers??? If they are on floppy then changing
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them would be easier than the C drive. RE: my VT52 emulation: it was just a
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mapping of VT52 (screen) codes to OS-9/CoCo codes. VT52 & 100 codes don't sit
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well with most printers, so most folks just filter 'em out of the printer
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stream. (but I don't).
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#: 5797 S7/Telecommunications
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03-Aug-90 16:52:05
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Sb: #5556-WIZ Query
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)
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Hmmmm Oct may be too soon for me to combine business with pleasure.
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#: 5798 S1/General Interest
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03-Aug-90 16:52:45
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Sb: #5557-'Fest query
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)
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Kev *promised* an email. <grin>
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#: 5800 S4/MIDI and Music
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03-Aug-90 17:10:11
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Sb: #Ultimusic
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Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
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To: Jim Buck
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Hi Jim, liked your songs you uploaded for Ultimusic. How old are you and what
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church do you go to? Some of your songs are in our hymnal at our church. I
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belong to First Church of God, in Owosso, Mi. It is based in Anderson,
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Indianna. Would you like to swap songs generated by Ultimusic? I bought the
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comercial version and like it a lot. I am a semi-professional organist and
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keyboardist. Bye, Denise
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#: 5822 S4/MIDI and Music
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04-Aug-90 10:23:21
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Sb: #5800-Ultimusic
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Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
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To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
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Denise, Thanks for your UME scores. Clair de Lune is beautiful. Just AS I Am
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is nice, but so embellished that I had difficulty hearing the melodic thread.
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Was it done as an accompaniment for a solo? Keep it up!! Ches.
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#: 5803 S1/General Interest
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03-Aug-90 19:39:01
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Sb: #5695-Disk fragmentation
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Fm: DICK SHARP 75266,2621
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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ZAC , I have looked at Chris Burkes program and it ssems great but can take a
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long time on a full disk. That may be the way to go after all. Thanks for the
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help.
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Dick
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#: 5804 S1/General Interest
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03-Aug-90 19:52:03
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Sb: #5699-#Disk fragmentation
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Fm: DICK SHARP 75266,2621
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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Mark ,
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I am more familiar with large scale UNIX systems along with others like PICK
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and Mod 400 (I repair Computers for a living.
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Maby the Disk fragmentation is dependent on how your files are set up and
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used. Other people feel it a great problem . I will have to thing about this
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for a while.
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Thanks for the help.
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Dick
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#: 5881 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-90 16:40:57
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Sb: #5804-Disk fragmentation
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Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
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To: DICK SHARP 75266,2621
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Dick
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Fragmentation is a real problem on many systems, I'm not denying that. What I
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meant is it mostly depends on how you use your OS9 system. If you use copy and
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file manipulation utilities that are fairly intelligent (i.e. those written by
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some of the users here) these utilities pre-extend the file before writing to
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|
it by finding the size of the file to be copied. This cuts down dramatically
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on fragmentation. Also, if one of the better make directory utilities is used
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that also pre-extends, then again fragmentation is reduced. In addition,
|
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setting the sector allocation size in the device descriptor has lots to do with
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it.
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But, if you have a utility that appends to a file by simply opening it and then
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writing, that file will become fragmented fairly quickly. Given that the
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number of sectors allow for in a file's descriptor sector is limited to 48, a
|
|
badly fragmented file could get to the point where you can't write to it any
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more. I'm not sure what error is returned at this point, probably error #217
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(segment table full), but I have never seen one.
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Files that do become fragmented are easily fixed by simply copying them to a
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temp file and then deleting and renaming. Now if we are talking about overall
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disk fragmentation, where the files become spread all around a disk, then this
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is a little different, but still not a problem. OS9 is pretty good in the way
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it finds space for a file, usually keeping everything pretty tight.
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Mark
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#: 5892 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-90 21:35:07
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Sb: #5699-#Disk fragmentation
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Fm: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
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To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
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mark, iwas just wondering whether a program could be made that could 'tell' the
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disk manager (IOman?) to set aside certain amount of spaces for directories and
|
|
files to go into that directories. That would eliminate disk fragmentation but
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how hard would be the program to develop? -w.
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#: 5896 S1/General Interest
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06-Aug-90 00:02:09
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Sb: #5892-Disk fragmentation
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Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
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To: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
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Wayne -
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You need to get my 'mkdir' command from dl9 here.... It will allow for
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pre-extension of directories. Lots of options are included for flexibility.
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Pete
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#: 5809 S3/Languages
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03-Aug-90 23:57:28
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Sb: #UPLOAD quota exceeded
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Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451
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To: sysop (X)
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SYSOP - I have a huge archive file ($2a99e bytes) that I would like to upload.
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this may cause the lib to exceed its quota. what to do? (it is the source code
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for the IAPL interpreter) - greg morse.
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#: 5821 S3/Languages
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04-Aug-90 09:32:32
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Sb: #5809-UPLOAD quota exceeded
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Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
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To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X)
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|
Greg, If it's one file, go ahead and upload it to Lib 3 and I'll handle it from
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there. If you want it in another Lib just leave me a note and I'll move it.
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|
Thanks!
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Mike
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#: 5810 S3/Languages
|
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04-Aug-90 00:40:19
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Sb: #APL INTERPRETER for FREE
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Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451
|
|
To: all
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I have just uploaded a port for os9 of the free IAPL interpreter. Welcome
|
|
comments on any bugs found. Run time system only today will upload source when
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sysop lets me! see APLRTS.AR in dl3. (PS This is for 6809 not osk). Greg Morse.
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#: 5814 S3/Languages
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04-Aug-90 04:01:38
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Sb: #5810-APL INTERPRETER for FREE
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Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X)
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Yow! Thanks. (Now, is there an associated graphics font that has all the
|
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interesting characters? <grin> Maybe that could be an exercise for an
|
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enterprising person once the source is uploaded...)
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#: 5828 S3/Languages
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04-Aug-90 12:00:17
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Sb: #5810-APL INTERPRETER for FREE
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Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X)
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|
The problem with space in Library 3 has been fixed, and we await your pleasure.
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|
Wayne
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#: 5817 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 08:44:48
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Sb: #HELP Hard Disk
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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|
To: ALL
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I have developed a Hard Disk problem. I am getting error 244s (read error) on
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|
specific files located all over the ST225 drive. My PS voltages are: 4.88v &
|
|
11.98v. I am using Bruces setup & wd1005G. Question is: should I go ahead &
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reformat & restore... or given the symptoms... may that not do any good? Help!
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|
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#: 5830 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 13:16:23
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Sb: #5817-#HELP Hard Disk
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Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
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To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 (X)
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|
Bill;
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About the first of the year, I was getting 244's from my ST-238 when I'd try
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to access a file. I found that it was mostly files that were in DIRectories
|
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with > 100 files, and I could usually try reading the file again and it would
|
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work the 2nd or 3rd time. If not, copying the file to another name seemed to
|
|
solve the problem.
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|
I finally reformatted the drive, and haven't had problems since. If it
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helps any, here is the script that I used to pre-extend the DIRs :
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display c
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|
echo * Installing OS9boot on track 128...
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|
bootport /f0/os9bootx /dd/OS9Boot
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echo *
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|
echo * Creating root directory structure...
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|
load mkdir
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|
mkdir AIF
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|
mkdir -e 150 AR
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|
mkdir ASM
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|
mkdir BACKUP
|
|
mkdir -e 70 BASIC09
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|
mkdir -e 120 C
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|
mkdir -e 250 CMDS
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mkdir -e 60 DEFS
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|
mkdir -e 100 DOCS
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|
mkdir -e 150 GAMES
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|
mkdir HELP
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mkdir LETTERS
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mkdir LIB
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mkdir -e 50 MISC
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mkdir -e 80 MODULES
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|
mkdir -e 99 MSGS
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|
mkdir OLDMSGS
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mkdir PASCAL
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mkdir PATCHES
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|
mkdir PCFILE
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mkdir -e 60 PIX
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|
mkdir RSDOS
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mkdir -e 130 SOURCES
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mkdir -e 50 SYS
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mkdir -e 60 TEMP
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mkdir -e 50 UTILS
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unlink mkdir
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echo * Root created...
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|
dir /dd
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Hope this helps...
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...Jim O_o AACK!
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=( )=
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U
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#: 5845 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 17:41:24
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Sb: #5830-HELP Hard Disk
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Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
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To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
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Thanks Jim for reminding me to pre extend.
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#: 5850 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 21:38:36
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Sb: #5817-#HELP Hard Disk
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Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
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|
To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 (X)
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|
My experience with ST225's is that they go bad over time. Especially if you
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bought it about a couple years ago or more. The 5 volts is a little low, and
|
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could be contributing to the problem though - usually it has a pot adjust on
|
|
the ps mboard, you might try that. Also, don't rely on just one vom, they on
|
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occasion get off. Suggest backup *IMMEDIALTLY*, but by copying files in groups
|
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of dirs rather than any standard backup program. Then reformat and restore, it
|
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will hold for a while before doing it again possibly.
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The last ST225 I had had this problem and would drop sectors with exponentialy
|
|
increasing frequency. About the third time it did (and lost some important
|
|
stuff), I took it out back, borrowed my dad's 6 pound sledgehammer, and vented
|
|
my frustration with it.
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Just a suggestion, of course.
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StG
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#: 5854 S10/Tandy CoCo
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04-Aug-90 21:47:49
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Sb: #5850-#HELP Hard Disk
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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|
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)
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|
Hmm, that's interesting. I've had my ST-225 since Feb '89, had no problems with
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it at all.
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Zack
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#: 5858 S10/Tandy CoCo
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05-Aug-90 00:05:21
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Sb: #5854-#HELP Hard Disk
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|
Fm: Shawn Thomas 76226,3237
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|
To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Zack- I didn't catch this whole thread but I kinda get the drift of the topic.
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I have had two ST225 s fail in the last 12 months. I will never buy another
|
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one. And I have had friends with the same problems, but then again there are
|
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thousands of them out there that have been working just fine. Maybe I have bad
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|
disk karma?
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Shawn
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#: 5866 S10/Tandy CoCo
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05-Aug-90 10:17:05
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Sb: #5858-#HELP Hard Disk
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: Shawn Thomas 76226,3237 (X)
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One thing already mentioned was that all units (ST225), or maybe most all,
|
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bought in the last two years seem to be fine. Most problems are with units
|
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purchased prior to that time.
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Zack
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ex
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#: 5873 S10/Tandy CoCo
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05-Aug-90 14:50:11
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Sb: #5866-HELP Hard Disk
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Fm: Shawn Thomas 76226,3237
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To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Zack- My first failed unit was bought new 13 months ago, and failed after 6
|
|
months. The new replacement failed two weeks ago. What can I say?
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|
Shawn
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#: 5874 S10/Tandy CoCo
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05-Aug-90 15:03:09
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Sb: #5854-HELP Hard Disk
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|
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
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|
To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
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Yah, it sorta depends. I've gotten burnt out on Seagates in general because
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every single one I've had has given me trouble at one time or another. Of
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course, I haven't bought one in the last couple years, so I figure they're
|
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better now.
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But if you start having it drop sectors on you, you know, all of a sudden
|
|
there's a sector bad, back it up right away - that day. If it does what mine
|
|
always did, they grow like rabbits and take over the whole drive.
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|
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|
Then, on the other hand, I'm using one of those 157N's I think, 49 megger SCSI
|
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imbedded on this unit. It has only flaked one sector, and since no problems.
|
|
But that one sector happened to be in the root directory and I had a real fun
|
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time reconstructing that.
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|
StG
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#: 5882 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
|
05-Aug-90 16:41:06
|
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Sb: #5817-#HELP Hard Disk
|
|
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
|
|
To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 (X)
|
|
|
|
Bill,
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|
|
|
Your power supply voltages are fine, maybe slightly low on the 5 volts, but
|
|
nothing that should cause read errors. I also wouldn't consider any one type
|
|
of drive manufactuer as worse than others. I have two Seagate ST-225 drive
|
|
here that have been in constant use on my system for two years, and they were
|
|
two years old when I got them. I also have a Seagate ST-506, their first
|
|
drive, that is still working after about 8 years!
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|
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|
If you can get a good copy of everything on your disk, then do it now. You may
|
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have to try several times on some files and forget others. If the data is
|
|
critical, then you can ship it off to one of the disk repair and recovery
|
|
places and for a couple hundred bucks, they will get your stuff off for you.
|
|
|
|
After you get the data, try and reformat. I always format a couple times
|
|
without the verify, and then a final time with verify. If this works out then
|
|
you should be able to use the drive again. If not, then chuck it and get a new
|
|
one. Mark
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#: 5891 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
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05-Aug-90 19:33:54
|
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Sb: #5882-HELP Hard Disk
|
|
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
|
|
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
|
|
|
|
Thanks Mark, I've backed up all I can get now. Next: FORMAT. BTW, I checked the
|
|
actual file dates on my ARC set and some files say 12/89. So I just forgot to
|
|
write a new label date last backup. Not so bad. I just hope I don't go through
|
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all this and find out that I have to replace the WD1005G anyhow. ('course, a
|
|
new controller would mean reformatting anyway).
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|
|
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#: 5833 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
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04-Aug-90 13:30:39
|
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Sb: #Files with "-"!!!
|
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Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
|
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To: all
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|
|
|
In trying to get the TOP uucp package to work I've managed to create a file
|
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with "-" in its name.
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1) How do I get rid of it!
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|
|
|
--ddm
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--mckay@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu --or-- ...rutgers!pur-ee!mckay
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#: 5837 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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04-Aug-90 13:34:57
|
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Sb: #5833-Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
|
|
To: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
|
|
|
|
If you know how to use dEd (the disk editor), you can go into the directory and
|
|
just change the "-" to something else (I run into this more often these days
|
|
myself .... maybe someone should write a util to handle this? Should be pretty
|
|
easy).
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|
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#: 5851 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
|
|
04-Aug-90 21:42:54
|
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Sb: #5833-Files with "-"!!!
|
|
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
|
|
To: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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Jeez, that's a good one. The only way I can figure how to do it is write your
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own delete or rename utility, or patch the disk directly to rename and then
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delete.
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I can rig a real quick C program, if you can't figure out any other way, then
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ring me at StG@hummer.iupui.edu and I'll mail you a uuencode of the binary for
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you to run.
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STG
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#: 5863 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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05-Aug-90 03:18:34
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Sb: #5833-#Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Robert A. Larson 75126,723
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To: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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The mv included that's part of my mv/ln (programs) link/rename (subroutines)
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package should be able to give it a reasonable name. If you want to make such
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files, just comment out the _prsnam section that's in there just to avoid such
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problems... (Look in dl12 and dl9, I don't remember what I called it, but you
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should be able to search with my ppn.) (There is another mv out there, I got
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rid of my copy when it made multiple files with the same name!)
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5878 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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05-Aug-90 15:15:26
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Sb: #5863-Files with "-"!!!
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Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
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To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723 (X)
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If that's the same mv that somebody else picked up for me and put on here, it
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has a bug in it. Check your routine for matching an already existing name
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before creating a new directory entry - it is comparing without case
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insensitivity. If you already have a FOO dir for example, and happen to
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(accidently) mv bar foo, it creates "foo" where "FOO" already existed. I
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deleted my copy cuz of that...
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Apologies, of course, if it's not yours that I had.
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StG
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#: 5834 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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04-Aug-90 13:30:57
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Sb: #TOP UUCP woes...
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Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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To: all
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Has anyone gotten the TOP 2.0 UUCP package to work? I've got a working systems
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file but have not been able to transfer mail.
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I'm also getting "can't create SEQFILE" from uux when I try to create outbound
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mail.
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I suspect that both of these problems may be due to the name of the system I am
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trying to contact. It is "pur-ee" which would not be a valid file or directory
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name under OS9.
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Can anyone give me some hints? I'm a much better UNIX person then an OSKer.
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I've setup UUCP under UNIX, but I'm a bit baffled at this point...
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--ddm
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--mckay@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu --or-- ...rutgers!pur-ee!mckay
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5870 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
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05-Aug-90 11:53:45
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Sb: #5834-TOP UUCP woes...
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Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
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To: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
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Hi Dwight!
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I think there are provisions for a 'permissions' or 'alias' file to allow you
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one name on your system (no hyphen) but still have a hyphen in the remote name.
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I've been working with Mark Griffith testing his 'uucp' port for the CoCo. Had
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a similar problem. One of the remote UNIX sites I work with uses hyphens both
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in their name and the name they use for me. I had to add a 'permissions' file
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to alias my site name and their site name.
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|
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When you get UUCP working right, can you prepare a short manual on how to
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set-up and use. I can't read German and the info provided by TOP assumes a
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good knowledge of UNIX UUCP.
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Ed
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#: 5839 S3/Languages
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04-Aug-90 14:52:53
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Sb: APL FONTS
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Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451
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To: 76257,562 (X)
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James. Yes the font issue has been addressed two ways. First the IAPL society
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have defined a ascii to apl mapping to allow even a dumb vt220 to run iapl
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pgms. 2nd the os9 port will run a cmdfile on startup to download a font to your
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terminal. Of course you must define the font! I have done this for vt220 (see
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vt220fnt.ar in dl6?) you can tell IAPL that you have such a font and it will
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output different characters in that case. <greg morse>
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#: 5841 S1/General Interest
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04-Aug-90 16:34:08
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Sb: #TS-SPELL PROBLEMS
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Fm: PHILLIP TAYLOR 72067,3430
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To: ALL
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Os9 Users
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|
TSSPELLW has a bug in the program,And will crash your hard drive If
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you try spell check a file.So my advise is not to use the program.
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Phillip Taylor
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There are 3 Replies.
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#: 5843 S1/General Interest
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04-Aug-90 16:56:46
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Sb: #5841-TS-SPELL PROBLEMS
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|
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
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|
To: PHILLIP TAYLOR 72067,3430
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|
|
|
There may be a bug in that program, but please exercise precision in your use
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of the word "virus." Calling it a virus tends to imply malicious intent on the
|
|
part of the programmer, and as far as I know there's no evidence to support
|
|
such a claim.
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|
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|
So far, I've yet to hear of any of the jerks who get their jollies by making
|
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others' lives miserable inflicting themselves on OS-9. Let's try to keep it
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that way, while avoiding needless panic, shall we?
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|
#: 5852 S1/General Interest
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04-Aug-90 21:43:28
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Sb: #5841-TS-SPELL PROBLEMS
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|
Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: PHILLIP TAYLOR 72067,3430
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|
HUH?!?! I've used T/S Spell on my HD system for a couple of years now. Just
|
|
what happened?
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Zack
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#: 5860 S1/General Interest
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05-Aug-90 01:05:30
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Sb: #5841-TS-SPELL PROBLEMS
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|
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
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|
To: PHILLIP TAYLOR 72067,3430
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|
|
Phillip,
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|
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|
I've taken the rare liberty of renaming the Subject of your original message,
|
|
due in part to the fact that TSSpellW has been available for so long and yours
|
|
is the first, and unsubstantiated, claim that it has a virus in it.
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|
|
|
If you can be more specific about why you believe there is a virus in there,
|
|
the folks here'll be more than happy to try and help you solve your problem.
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|
I don't believe, though, you'll find it was a virus that caused you problems.
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|
Wayne
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#: 5842 S1/General Interest
|
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04-Aug-90 16:40:21
|
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Sb: #BUG (((TSSPELLW)))
|
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Fm: PHILLIP TAYLOR 72067,3430
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|
To: ALL
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|
Os9 Users
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If you know how to fix the problem with crashing the hard drive
|
|
while spell checking a file.Please leave me a message.I would like to send a
|
|
copy of the program so you can look at it for me.Or if you want you can leave
|
|
me a private message using mail with your name and address.
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|
72067,3430
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phillip taylor
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5853 S1/General Interest
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04-Aug-90 21:45:52
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Sb: #5842-BUG (((TSSPELLW)))
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Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
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To: PHILLIP TAYLOR 72067,3430
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DON'T send a copy of T/S Spell to someone! That is a violation of the copyright
|
|
on the program! As I have said, I have spell checked MANY documents on my HD
|
|
systems with T/S Spell with NO problems whatsoever. Can you elaborate on what
|
|
happened to you, and maybe someone can point out what you are obviously doing
|
|
wrong?
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|
Zack
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|
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#: 5847 S1/General Interest
|
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04-Aug-90 19:28:25
|
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Sb: #CM-8
|
|
Fm: Sunny Lowe 72447,1037
|
|
To: Kevin Darling
|
|
|
|
Kevin,
|
|
Is it safe, or is it possible to hook a CM-8 to a VGA analog output on an XT
|
|
Clone to see color VGA output? I know the dot pitch is way off, and I know it
|
|
is not very adjustable, but all I have is Monochrome VGA currently, and I'd
|
|
Like to see what these colors look like If I could.
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|
Sunny
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5855 S1/General Interest
|
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04-Aug-90 21:50:34
|
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Sb: #5847-CM-8
|
|
Fm: Mark S 76004,373
|
|
To: Sunny Lowe 72447,1037
|
|
|
|
A CM-8 will not work on a VGA card. VGA is 400 line video. You could damage the
|
|
CM-8.
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|
|
|
#: 5857 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
|
04-Aug-90 22:50:44
|
|
Sb: #responses
|
|
Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
|
|
To: tall
|
|
|
|
I just upload Check ledger 4.5 and I uploaded a few days ago SPoker.PAK, and
|
|
was wondering if anyone had any gres/comments/etc. to give me. I realize that
|
|
many have not had a chance to view my programs yet, so to start it off I will
|
|
ask a few questions. Is the filename in an upload only allowed to be 6.3
|
|
(meaning 6-character filename and 3-character extension)? Can forum sysops
|
|
change the name of a program that has been uploaded? What specialties do forum
|
|
sysops get for their work (I'm just curious . . . ?) What have people heard
|
|
about new OS-9 products? Hope to get many responses . . .
|
|
|
|
Joseph Cheek
|
|
(76264,142)
|
|
|
|
BTW, how many people log on here at 300 baud to just read messages?
|
|
Again, just curious . . .
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|
|
|
There are 2 Replies.
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|
|
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#: 5865 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
|
05-Aug-90 08:21:45
|
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Sb: #5857-responses
|
|
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
|
|
To: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 (X)
|
|
|
|
Joseph,
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|
|
|
On the file naming question ... you're correct. The name must be limited to 6
|
|
characters with the extension up to 3.
|
|
|
|
Sysops do have the capability to modify the name of a file ... generally upon
|
|
the request of the uploader. We don't like to monkey around with somebody elses
|
|
work unless invited.
|
|
|
|
On the baud rate quesion ...
|
|
|
|
Just a guess, but I doubt many are on with 300 baud these days. With the advent
|
|
of View.Ar (an offline message processor) it's far more efficient at the higher
|
|
speeds.
|
|
|
|
New Os9 stuff? Browse Section/Library 15 for the news on the MM/1 and Tomcat.
|
|
|
|
Steve
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|
|
|
#: 5887 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
|
05-Aug-90 17:10:10
|
|
Sb: #5857-#responses
|
|
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
|
|
To: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 (X)
|
|
|
|
I've grabbed it, and it's rather cute. Only oddity is that it comes back with
|
|
an "ERROR #0" at the end just as it exits. Expect a check to a starving OS-9
|
|
programmer shortly! <grin>
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|
|
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5903 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
|
06-Aug-90 11:52:35
|
|
Sb: #5887-responses
|
|
Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
|
|
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
|
|
|
|
The error #0 is meant to be no error . . . but if it bugs people, I can easily
|
|
change that.
|
|
|
|
#: 5861 S1/General Interest
|
|
05-Aug-90 01:50:07
|
|
Sb: #5673-#To Meg or Not to Meg !
|
|
Fm: Tony Cappellini 76370,2104
|
|
To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X)
|
|
|
|
I don't know. You tell me. Can it be set to handle a 512k ramdisk ? If so, how
|
|
??????? TC
|
|
|
|
There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5899 S1/General Interest
|
|
06-Aug-90 03:15:13
|
|
Sb: #5861-To Meg or Not to Meg !
|
|
Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605
|
|
To: Tony Cappellini 76370,2104
|
|
|
|
Tony,
|
|
|
|
I know very little about ram disks. So, for what it's worth (grin)...
|
|
|
|
I occasionally use the ramdisk program in DL 9 on my Creative Micro Systems'
|
|
level two box. It's not a Gimix. Or a Smoke Signal. Or even a Hazel-whatever.
|
|
And it doesn't have all those fancy input-output boards. But, it's similar. All
|
|
I do is load the modules ram and r0, link r0, dmode /r0 cyl=10, iniz r0 and
|
|
then format /r0 R "diskname". That gives me a 64k ram disk. The size of the
|
|
ramdisk is determined by the number of cylinders I assign to the r0 descriptor
|
|
(with dmode). If I want to set up a 512k ram disk I'd just change the number of
|
|
cylinders (using dmode) to 80 before formatting the `disk'. Of course, I don't
|
|
have that much spare memory...
|
|
|
|
I believe this procedure should work with just about any OS9 computer. However,
|
|
you must use a driver that takes into account the coco's 8k memory blocks. I
|
|
think there's an 8k driver in the AR file.
|
|
|
|
And yes, I have a coco - a coco two running OS9 level one at 2 mhz.
|
|
|
|
Drop me a line if you're still interested in seeing an example of vintage 1983
|
|
technology (grin).
|
|
|
|
Wendell
|
|
|
|
P.S. I'm a sports columnist at the L.A. Daily News... probably the only one at
|
|
the paper using OS9 :-).
|
|
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|
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|
|
#: 5868 S15/Hot Topics
|
|
05-Aug-90 10:58:02
|
|
Sb: #5606-#CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
|
|
Fm: Kevin Pease 70516,1633
|
|
To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
|
|
|
|
Ed If you would like I will upload the 68000 executable. It is important that
|
|
we all use the same executable module as the source can be modified to give
|
|
other results. However If you would like to compile it with the GNU c compiler
|
|
for the purpose of comparing compiler speed rather than processor speed I will
|
|
upload the source to you also. However we need to use the same executable when
|
|
comparing 68k computer speeds.
|
|
|
|
Kevin Pease
|
|
70516,1633
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|
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5869 S15/Hot Topics
|
|
05-Aug-90 11:49:11
|
|
Sb: #5868-CoCo/OSK Basic(09)
|
|
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
|
|
To: Kevin Pease 70516,1633
|
|
|
|
Kevin -
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|
|
|
Will appreciate the executable - Don't have the GNU c compiler although I'm
|
|
supposed to be getting a copy soon.
|
|
|
|
Yes, I agree. We *HAVE* to make sure all tests are identical!!
|
|
|
|
Thanks,
|
|
|
|
Ed
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|
|
|
#: 5871 S9/Utilities
|
|
05-Aug-90 11:55:27
|
|
Sb: Revised Touch
|
|
Fm: Ken Drexler 75126,3427
|
|
To: all
|
|
|
|
I have just uploaded a revised version of my touch command to Lib 9
|
|
(Utilities). Unlike the version uploaded a month or so ago, if the file to be
|
|
touched is not found, one is created. This conforms its behavior more closely
|
|
to the touch command on OSK. Sorry I did not think of this when I originally
|
|
wrote touch.c, but I invariably touch existing files.
|
|
|
|
Ken
|
|
|
|
#: 5872 S3/Languages
|
|
05-Aug-90 11:56:37
|
|
Sb: #Mroff docs
|
|
Fm: Ken Drexler 75126,3427
|
|
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
|
|
|
|
Mark,
|
|
|
|
I found the full mroff documentation in DL 6 and downloaded it. I have now
|
|
edited your modifications into the complete user's manual for my use. If you
|
|
want I can upload it for you to post with your clib documentation. It is 44,000
|
|
bytes long in ascii before "ar'ing".
|
|
|
|
Ken
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|
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|
There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5883 S3/Languages
|
|
05-Aug-90 16:41:10
|
|
Sb: #5872-Mroff docs
|
|
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
|
|
To: Ken Drexler 75126,3427
|
|
|
|
Ken,
|
|
|
|
I will be uploading an archive in the near future that will include some fixes
|
|
for the files in the clib docs. I can include the revised mroff docs then,
|
|
unless you want to upload it and save me the trouble (grin).
|
|
|
|
Mark
|
|
|
|
#: 5876 S3/Languages
|
|
05-Aug-90 15:08:21
|
|
Sb: #StG Lib upl to lib#3
|
|
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
|
|
To: all
|
|
|
|
For all who are interested, I have uploaded the library used on the V3 login
|
|
package. Actually, just one of them - if there's enough interest, I'll upl the
|
|
other, the CC exec that goes with it, and maybe even some source to various
|
|
parts of the package.
|
|
|
|
So, if you want more, speak up!
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|
|
|
StG
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|
|
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 5877 S3/Languages
|
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05-Aug-90 15:10:52
|
|
Sb: #5876-StG Lib upl to lib#3
|
|
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
|
|
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)
|
|
|
|
Oh, BTW, this is the same stuff that has already been distributed on StG-net,
|
|
so if you've seen it before, it's not a new version. There will be a new
|
|
version when I'm done with V4 in a bit though.
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|
|
|
#: 5889 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
|
05-Aug-90 18:08:39
|
|
Sb: MV and Eliminator
|
|
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
|
|
To: Kevin Darling
|
|
|
|
can not change non SCF device press any key to continue. I am using the
|
|
Eliminator board under standard MULTI VIEW. I am just curious as to why the
|
|
gport utility will not let me change the port parameters when in MV from the
|
|
Tandy menu gport facility.
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|
|
|
the message that will not let me use the gport utility on any port
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|
|
|
#: 5893 S10/Tandy CoCo
|
|
05-Aug-90 21:42:57
|
|
Sb: #5422-New gfx2
|
|
Fm: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
|
|
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
|
|
|
|
kev, nice work on the gfx2 module. I've used it to play Tazman and there's a
|
|
noticable speed up on drawing the scenes.
|
|
I noticed that the docs said (I think) that lines drawn horizonaly are now
|
|
faster. What makes H. lines slower to draw than Verticle lines? And can we
|
|
look forward to any faster modules? best regards, Wayne Laird
|
|
|
|
#: 5894 S3/Languages
|
|
05-Aug-90 23:21:03
|
|
Sb: Pascal help
|
|
Fm: William L. Cotter 72557,306
|
|
To: All
|
|
|
|
I have a problem running the PascalT.PRUN translator. I have a small Pascal
|
|
program that I want to assemble so I can add it to my cmds dir Whenever I try
|
|
to use PascalT.PRUN as described in the manual (page 4-2) I get nothing but
|
|
errors and my machine locks up. Is there a compatibility problem with Pascal
|
|
and OS9 Level 2 in the PascalT program? My program runs fine in P-code, but I
|
|
want to take it all the way to assembly. Any help on this would be much
|
|
appreciated.
|
|
|
|
Thanks,
|
|
Bill Cotter72557,306
|
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|
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#: 5905 S1/General Interest
|
|
06-Aug-90 13:21:42
|
|
Sb: #5737-Where is '68 Micro?
|
|
Fm: Tom Napolitano 70215,1130
|
|
To: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565
|
|
|
|
Jay,
|
|
Re: 68 Micro. I've heard nothing since the Jan issue either. Chak another
|
|
one up to experience? I renewed last year, so they owe me almost two years'
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worth of magazines.
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tom n
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#: 5906 S10/Tandy CoCo
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06-Aug-90 18:56:32
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Sb: NIL & NILDRV
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Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
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To: all
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Is there a PD NIL & NILDRV here in the databases?
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I've looked around, but can't find anything...
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Hugo
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Press <CR> !> |