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From swilbur@dad.bgsu.edu Thu Oct 28 08:46:32 1993
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 23:37:03 -0400 (EDT)
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From: shawn wilbur <swilbur@dad.bgsu.edu>
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Reply to: Voices-request@andy.bgsu.edu
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To: voices@andy.bgsu.edu
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Subject: VoicesFromTheNet1.3
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Can * VOICES FROM THE NET *
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you * VOICES FROM THE NET * ---
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hear * *
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our * 1.3 * Do
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voices * VOICES LANGUAGE * you
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? * "Let's talk about Net" * read
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* * us
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--- * VOICES FROM THE NET * ?
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* VOICES FROM THE NET *
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There are a lot of folks with at least one foot in this complex region we
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call (much too simply) "the net." There are a lot of voices on these wires.
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- all kinds of voices - loud and quiet, anonymous and well-known. And yet,
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it's far from clear what it might mean to be a "voice" from, or on, the
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net. Enter "Voices from the Net": one attempt to sample, explore, the
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possibilities (or perils) of net.voices. Worrying away at the question.
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Running down the meme. Looking/listening, and reporting back to you.
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WARNING: USE ONLY AS DIRECTED. INTENTIONAL MISUSE BY DELIBERATELY
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CONCENTRATING AND INHALING THE CONTENTS CAN BE HARMFUL OR FATAL
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_1.3_
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ISSN 1072-1908
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THIS ISSUE:
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--VOICES CARRY
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--SIGNAL/NOISE
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From: Malinda
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From: ChristJ
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From: Abaddon
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From: miekael
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Adam Curry Update
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--FEATURE: Harley Hahn
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--A SHOuT IN THE DARK
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--PREVIEWS
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--INFO/ARCHIVES/ACCEPTABLE USE
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VOICES CARRY: prepositional quibbling
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On second thought...
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OK. Perhaps we've been talking about those "voices from the net" as if they
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were voices "on" or "in" the net, with these occasional echoes in our
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"real" lives. But is that it? From andy.bgsu.edu to aol.com, and then..?
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From: the Net
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To: ?????
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>From my brain to my fingers to the screen to your screen to your eyes to
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your brain... with a few dozen other stops along the way...
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Or farther, onto the printed page, into the flow of commerce and
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information in the "real" world.
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Perhaps it doesn't really matter where the voices go, if they "leave" the
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net at all. Certainly, when we started this project we intended little
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more than to mix things up, carry some voices, facilitate introductions
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all 'round. An occasional reminder of the diversity of net.folks is bound
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to have its positive effects, for all of us "out here."
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But preaching to the choir has its limitations. Have you ever tried to
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talk to someone about what you do "out here"?
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a: well, i was talking to my friend Yeroc the other day on the MOO...
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b: MOO..? talking..? OH! you mean on the computer, NOT *REALLY* TALKING!...
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Sound familiar? We face translation problems. It's not that we speak a
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totally alien tongue. In fact, its deceptively familiar ring may be
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disturbing to the uninitiated, just as the seriousness, the "reality," of
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net.life may be disorienting for newbies. So what does it take to bridge
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the gap between worlds, to make the net intelligible?
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In this issue, we're starting an exploration of that question, and, more
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broadly, of the ways in which our net.lives translate into "real" life.
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We've been lucky enough to find some folks with strong, sometimes
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comtroversial or even outrageous, opinions about the net, and about the
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world. You won't agree with everything they say. That's ok. Niether do we.
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But if you let that blind you to the strength and sincerity of the voices
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involved, then you'll lose out. Listen carefully, critically, but listen...
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--bookish
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SIGNAL/NOISE
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Signal/noise: the ratio between the useful information in a given
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environment and the useless nonsense that inevitably accompanies it, even
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threatens to drown it out. It's a useful measure, as long as you don't need
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to reduce it to a number or something. But always remember: one
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net.entity's signal is another's noise. And an environment which one person
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finds objectionably noisy may seem serene to someone else. There are many
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voices out there - many kinds of voices - and many environments that affect
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how those voices appear to other folks across the wires. What follows is a
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dip into the ocean of such voices, presented in such a way as to preserve
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the feel of the particular environment. Much of it was generated on the
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spot in realtime interactive settings, and it has that mix of exciting
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spontenaity and confusion. It's up to you to decide what's signal and
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what's noise.
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>Letters, we get letters... Actually, we don't get a lot of mail from you
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>folks, but we certainly appreciate hearing from people who have read the
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>magazine. And sometimes the comments are more on the mark than you could
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>know. This note, for instance, in response to issue 1.1, addressed
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>several of the same issues as the interviews in 1.2:
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 13:21:23 -0400 (EDT)
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From: Malinda
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To: Voices-request@andy.bgsu.edu
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Subject: Voices From The Net
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I have 1.1, would like to subscribe & to receive back issues I have missed.
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Very good articles/personalities/content.
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FYI, I MUD as Ghislaine and often find myself thinking in the third
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person.... and I type smilies on mail now....most folks miss it, wonder
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what the colon close parenthesis means (I omit the n dash).
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I am a newbie, I just learned about the Net in January and was able to
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access it in March or April. I discovered the joy of newsgroups and
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participated on some of the chattier ones (like alt.romance...somehow I
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became the grande aunt/doyenne, since I am older than most
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netdenizens--27, I think...would have to count back to be sure--and since
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I have a "happy, normal, satisfying" relationship with a MOTAS--Member of
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the Appropriate Sex--in my case a male named Steven. :] )
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It got tiring being a doyenne/maven/what-have-you. I'd get congratulated
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on my common sense. One thing that was not touched on is the common
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problem ladies gripe about: net.harrassment.
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Here are some of the things I have experienced or heard about:
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1) Strangers getting your e-mail address and logging on to "talk" and
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pretending they know you. They ask progressively more personal questions,
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etc., and since you can't see or hear the person, you are left wondering
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if you do know them.
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2) I was quoted in a reply to a thread that was posted to alt.sex.** and I
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got a mailbox full of propositions as a result. I couldn't figure it out
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until I realized I was crossposted. The only appropriate response seemed
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to be "go away, I was crossposted, not interested", but some of the
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strangers were more gross and more persistent.
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3) In a MUD, was harrassed by a wizard who broke the MUD's rules about
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bothering players. I was encouraged to report details by the player I was
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with at the time, the wizard was demoted. Some witnesses noted that the
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reactions of the ex-wiz and of my player character were similar to those
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studied in their rape awareness classes at their universities.
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4) I am not interested in MUD/MUSH/MOO marriage, but surely some people
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out there could provide useful info for you.
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5) Spamming/clotting mailboxes-mailbombing: Spamming can be used as
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offense or defense. (Spamming = flooding the screen with "soul commands",
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similar commands, chatter, etc.)
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Mailbombing: never ask anyone on a less-cerebral newsgroup to send you
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anything. A request on alt.humor for an ASCII picture resulted in one person
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sending me three long art files that took up 40% of my filespace.
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...
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Lastly, Ed Krol writes a lot of books that helped me, as a newbie, surf
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the Net with some ease. I have his e-mail address and was desperate one
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day with a net question and he kindly took the time to respond to me. He
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might be an interesting personality to look up....
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And lest I forget, Kibo. :)
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RIP Robert McElwaine: Un-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this
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IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. For a newer but equally irritating
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net.nerd, try Riley G. [Matthews] on sci.skeptic. Joel Furr[fu] is a
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net.personality enamoured of lemurs. I am sure you have met all three in
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your net travels. Alt.callahans is a "space" where folx meet to chat and
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play and pretend. It is *very* loosely based on Spider Callahan's books.
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It is like a MUD in that people adopt personalities and chat thru them.
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As I said, sometimes I MUD (mostly for chat) and some of the better
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chatting is on marble.bu.edu 5000 (a diku)....I pick nicknames only for
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the anonymity/safety aspect. Most folks know all about me as I don't hide
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my RL name or whatever once I know the people better. I am often
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Ghislaine. No particular reason for the name. :)
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Hope this is useful info. :)
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Malinda
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>Some messages come to us by more roundabout routes. This one came through
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>the Future Culture list, when we can often be found, from our old pal,
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>ChristJ (no relation...)
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 01:33:15 -0400
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From: ChristJ
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Reply to: Future Culture <FUTUREC%UAFSYSB.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
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To: Multiple recipients of list FUTUREC <FUTUREC%UAFSYSB.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
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Subject: in praise of "Voices"
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Good job bookish and CZ and everyone who made the first issue of voices a
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freakin godsend for me. On the verge of net boredom/burnout I got the
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chance to remember why i love this place so much in the first place. Jesus
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(not me actually) I can't even remember how I got here, let alone how I'm
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gonna get back. Good thing I dont wanna go back.
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Man, I'm kinda tired...
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Butthead: "huh huh. Voices is cool. huh huh"
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Beavis: "Yeah. voices kicks ass"
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[stupid rock video]
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Kinda makes me wonder how it all began. How does the net become so much a
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part of someones life that you start thinking "Oh, I need to @create a
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note to write this down on" only to remember that you don't have a RL
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programmers bit. Who is the damned RL sysadmin anywayz!?
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Yikes... I am getting worked up here. Better not feel emotions or
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anything. Can't have that. Nah. The net is just a bunch of computers,
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right? ones and zeros, ons and offs. What kinda weirdo takes it and
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integrates it into a very real part of real life?
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You know how it is... You go to the mailbox and read your mail. Oh.
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Yeah, there is a mailbox outside too, not just the one that you get e-mail
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in. No good UPS system here for shipping bikes and t-shirts over the net
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yet though. Gotta post that to the MOO projects list. Or something.
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The net as religion is something we brought up here before isn't it. I
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really don't know how much experience anyone here has with RL religions,
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but I can draw some major parallels myself. Prayer/spew/rant/post. Its
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all the same. There is a reason that they call this a virtual community.
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...
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(quick question, and I feel like this is getting really long and probably
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boring... "I feel these wires" - andy ... do we all feel the same wires,
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or do we make our own? whose RL is this anywayz?)
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___________________________________________________________________________
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<> ChristJ <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Citizen of Earth <>
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>The importance of the ethical dimensions of cyberspace, and its place in
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>the midst of more general strivings for a better world also occupy Abaddon:
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 93 15:32:56 PDT
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From: Abaddon
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To: Voices-request@andy.bgsu.edu
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Subject: Comments on Issue #1
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Several times, both in the interviews and in the on-line session logs,
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comments were made to the tune of "you are only just one voice, and in
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the larger scheme of things, relatively insignificant." While for many
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people that may well be true, it seems that for someone who is hip-deep in
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c-space one voice can be much more than one voice. Take a peek back through
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history -- Hitler, Lincoln, Washington, Khan, Lysander, Socrates. These
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to were only single voices, many with much less of a medium of
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transmission than the Net. (FYI, do to circumstances beyond my control,
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my current job only has VM interface to the Net. Gads. Thus explains the
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poor formatting. :-) [Never fear, Shawn, we cleaned it up before we
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published it.] As I was saying, the "power" of your voice is not in
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direct numbers, but in the number of people that it influences. Whether
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in c-space or in RL, people crave the same things, have the same base
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desires. One of the reasons that the Net is so popular is it means never
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having to be alone. Take a look at "Being and Nothingness" by Sartre. The
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Net is the newest, biggest, bestest (tm) way for some people to secure
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their own reality. Weird concept, huh? Founding yourself in a virtual
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world? But it is the interaction with others, so Sartre would have us
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believe, that you attempt to ground yourself.
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The trick, then, if you are searching for power out in Net.World, is to
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do the same things you would in RL. That is, understand the needs of others
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and exploit them shamelessly. Everyone wants something, has a missing
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part of themselves, and the Net is one of the easier ways to try and fill
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that. Notice, I said easier, not necessarily better. The Net is just another
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entertainment, just another tool. The important difference, as was noted
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before, is that you have some measure of control, albeit a small one.
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I've been riding the waves, so to speak, for over five years now, and
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the Net still manages to surprise me almost daily. The variety of humanity
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is a well that will not be fathomed (although you can come close with some
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good ol fashion generalities. :-) I suppose after all this, the main
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point would be something along these lines:
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Decide your goals. The Net is no more nor less than one more way of
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achieving what you want, whether it be your own satisfaction, that of
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others, or something completely beyond the realm of current society. Once
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you know what you want, the Net is a very powerful tool to achieve your
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ends. I would just hope that in doing so, making your own dreams into
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your own realities, that you would take the time to look around you, and
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give aid to those perhaps not so focused or fortunate as yourself. Single
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voices do have the power, hopefully the denizens of the Net will use it
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more wisely than the rest of Humanity has in the past.
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Shawn
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AKA
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Abaddon
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I wont mention this VM-address-poor-substitue-for-a-connection-thing.
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Much too horrible a thing to contemplate.
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>Finally, we received this note from miekael (of Spunk Press), answering
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>our favorite question:
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 09:47:22 +0200
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From: miekael
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To: bookish
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Subject: Voices from the Net: Request for....
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To hear a voice from the net is the same thing as getting a phone call
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in the middle of the night from Sweden with someone shouting "WAKE
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UP!" Simultaneously about 25,000 other people recieves an identical
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phone call and all you know is that you're shouting back in the phone,
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crossing the atlantic in milliseconds. This is true interactivity,
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this is what the net is all about.
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Miekael
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>And, finally...
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>Did I already say that? Well, more than finally then... An update:
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Adam Curry invites everyone to check out his new site: mtv.com
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and look for his new e-tabloid: _Cyber-Sleaze_
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Really! go check it out! anonymous ftp to mtv.com is a good way to start...
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FEATURE: _Harley Hahn: Author_
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Harley Hahn found us, very soon after we started Voices. One day we
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received a surprisingly enthusiastic note in our mailbox, suggesting that
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we might want to be listed in a soon-to-be-published Internet guide, and
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that, while we were at it, we might also want to interview the author.
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Harley assured us that he had many interesting and controversial things to
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say. He hasn't let us down. It might have been a simple "you scratch my
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back and i'll scratch yours" sort of exchange, a publicity swap (and a
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little publicity never hurt a new publication), but we hope you'll agree
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that what we got was a lot more than just self-promotion. What follows is
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the result of a telephone interview that lasted well over an hour, and it
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covers a lot of ground. But so, apparently, does Harley Hahn.
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He's a "internationally recognized author, analyst and consultant,
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specializing in Unix and other operating systems." He's written a number
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of books, including _Peter Norton's Guide to Unix_ (with Peter Norton), _A
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Student's Guide to Unix_, and the newly published _The Internet Complete
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Reference_ (with Rick Stout). He has a degree in mathematics and computer
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science from the University of Waterloo in Canada, and a graduate degree
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in computer science from the University of California at San Diego. And
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Scott Yanoff said nice things about his Internet guide...
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So now let's hear what Harley has to say:
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<Voices> We were looking over the introductions to your two books
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[Student's Guide to Unix, Internet Complete Reference] and it seems to
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us that maybe you have something like a cosmology of the Internet-Unix
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linkup here, a sort of big picture which is driving a lot of what you
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are doing. Some of the other people we've talked to have quibbled over
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the question about "What is the Net?" Do you want to start by tackling that
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question?
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<Harley Hahn> Well you know, there are lots of questions in life that sound
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simple but they don't really have satisfying answers and I think that
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that's one of them because there's no real good definition of it. If you
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maybe take a simpler question and ask "What is Unix?"
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v: yes
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h: People can say it's an operating system, but it's a lot more than
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that. People can say it's a family of operating systems, but other people
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say it's a collection of tools for solving problems for smart people or
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other people say it's really an approach to solving problems, and other
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business oriented people say it's a computer system which runs a certain
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type of software with certain interfaces. And you come down to the fact
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that there's lots of questions in life and in the world of computers that
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sound like a question because they're a sentence and they have a
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question mark at the end and if it sounds like a question then it should
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have an answer, but it really doesn't have a good answer. So the real
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answer is that, depending on who you are, the question has different answers,
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and even then the answer may change over time.
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I guess I can give you three answers to the question "What is the Net?"
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The first one is: You can say that the Net is just the short form for
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Internet, and the Internet is this large collection of other networks
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and it's a physical thing that actually exists with phone lines and
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computers and data being stored all over the place and so on. That's
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what the Internet is and "the Net" just stands for the Internet. The
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second answer is: A lot of people when they say "the Net" mean Usenet.
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They mean where the discussions go on. So you could say that Usenet is a
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system of discussion groups all over the world and then "Net" is just an
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abbreviation for Usenet. I find that in practice people kind of switch
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back an forth between the two definitions, sometimes when they say "the
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Net" like someone says "I need a recipe" and someone says "Why don't you
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ask on the Net" then they're clearly talking about Usenet. Sometimes
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when somebody says "I'd like to send you email are you on the Net?"
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they're talking about the Internet because Usenet doesn't have
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electronic mail. So "the Net" can mean Internet, "the Net" can mean
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Usenet, but that's not what the most interesting meaning to me. The most
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interesting meaning is that it's sort of a global gathering place. It
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certainly doesn't involve everyone in the world, not even most people in
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the world, not even most people in the United States and Europe and
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Japan and the developed countries, but it's the largest gathering of
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human beings that has ever existed in the history of mankind and it's
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getting larger and larger and it looks like it's going to be the
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ancestor of something that eventually everybody will be able to gather
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whenever they want. So that's what i think of "the Net". I don't think
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of it as meaning only the Internet or meaning only Usenet. I think of it
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as meaning a network of people that right now depends on the Internet
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and right now the discussion groups depend on Usenet, but you could take
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away the Internet and put in a different infrastructure, and you could
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take away Usenet and put in a different way to have discussion groups,
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but we would still have "the Net." We would still have that gathering.
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v: For an unanswerable question you handled that quite nicely.
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h: Can I point out why i think that is significant?
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v: sure
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h: I'll try to say it in a few sentences. If somebody says "hey try this
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new word processing program", there are word processing programs that
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already exist so it's not really new it's just a new variation. And if
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you've only typed on a typewriter and someone says "try this new word
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processing program" it's a lot more new to you because you've never seen
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anything like it, but still you've typed on a typewriter, and even before
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then you've written stuff down on paper. The thing about "the Net" is
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that it is something that has never existed ever before in the history of
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human beings. It's not like in the way that a word processing program is
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just more automatic or computerized than typing which might be more
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mechanical than writing on paper. "The Net" is not just something that we
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already have to a larger scope because if you connect everybody with
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email it's not the same as a large email network. The character and the
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quality of it change. There's a size, i don't think it's an exact size, but
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once you get over a certain size it becomes more than just a large
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version of something you already have. So the significance of "the Net"
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is not that it's just a large gathering, because certainly there have
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been gatherings of human beings since there have been human beings. I
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call it a large gathering but that's because I don't have a better word.
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It's something that never existed before in the history and culture of
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human beings and that's why it's significant. Its sheer size ties the
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world together, or it's beginning to, in a way that nobody even imagined was
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possible.
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v: Something like an actual collective consciousness?
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h: Well, I think that's the first thing that you might start thinking
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about because you talk about something that's greater than the sum of its
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parts, but I think that say in fifty years when you look back and when
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it's pretty well understood what this "Net" thing is, it may be called
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something different by then. People will say the idea that it is a
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collective consciousness was maybe a good way to start thinking about it
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but it was kind of a rudimentary, naive way. It's really a lot more than
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that. It's a lot more than a collective consciousness, and I don't even
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know that it's a collective consiousness really.
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I know that ever since the beginning of time it seems whenever human
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beings have had a chance to communicate, they do. They get together.
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Whenever there's a chance to send messages they do, and the "Net" that
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we're building, it seems like we don't know why we're building it, and
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we're almost unconscious that we're building it, but collectively we are
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trying to connect up to one another as much as possible. But I think
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that's it's more than a group consciousness, it's very much individual
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consciousness that's doing things. For example, yesterday I connected to
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IRC (ed. Internet Relay Chat) and I could talk with anyone who happened
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to be on there, and that's not a collective consciousness at all because
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it's just me talking to individuals, and yet qualitatively I think
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that's different than say talking to you on the phone right now.
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v: You have mentioned (in previous conversations) some of the new social
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organizations that are happening on the Net...
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h: There's new social organizations, yes, and that's probably a better
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word, although it's longer, than gathering. I think when you say social
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organizations, you're saying people are organizing themselves in new
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ways, and we don't have a word to describe it yet so we'll call it social
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organization and then later we'll get some more familiar terms. What I'm
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saying is we need a vocabulary. In order to discuss things you have to
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have words to represent the ideas, and we don't have enough words yet to
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represent all the new ideas of the things we're creating or the things
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that are happening out of our creations. So we call it "the Net", but
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that's not a good word. What we need are new words that don't have any
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connotations and the only meanings they have are representations of all
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these new things that are happening, but those new words have not yet
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arisen so we can talk about social organization but then we have to be vague.
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v: There is of course that whole net.language, to use the form in which
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it rears its ugly head all the time, that's developed that seems to work
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on the model of attaching prefixes and suffixes and all of that...
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h: We have to make a distinction between two types of things. There are
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words that are used on the Net but then there are words that are used to
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talk about the Net. Some words are in both. There are abbreviations and
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slang that people on the Net use, but that's the same everywhere. You go
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to a part of a city that has it's own culture or a part of the country or
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a different country, they all have their own slang and their own words
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that nobody else understands. At a level beyond that, what we need are
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words to talk ABOUT the Net and how it's important, and what it's like to
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use it, and what it means to us as human beings. Maybe a good example is
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the word newsgroup. You use the word newsgroup on the net, and it's
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slang, and it means something, but newsgroup we can call a meta-word, a
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word to talk about ideas and other words. Newsgroup is a concept now that
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we're beginning to understand, and now we can sort of understand what
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that means so we can talk about newsgroups. We need a whole lot of new
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words like newsgroup to talk about the ideas. We can talk about a gopher
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and we can talk about newsgroups and there's probably some other things.
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What we're missing are all the words to talk about what the whole thing
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means on a larger scale.
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v: Yes, you've done some work which is very much related to this business
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of establishing ways of talking about the net both in the work you've
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done in trying to make UNIX accesible and now the new book on making the
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Internet accesible. Do you see part of your role there as at least
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working towards that meta-language?
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h: Yes, but i don't think about that primarily. In one sense I do. I'm
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very careful how I use words, and of course most of my books, almost
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every word, is written in regular English, but when you come to the terms
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that aren't regular English I think carefully about how I want to use them.
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For an example, when I write UNIX I'll write it with a "U" but then a
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"nix" because to me Unix is not just a brand name and people are starting
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to realize that now. That's a simple one. I see my books, because so many
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people read them and because they are about what I call important
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subjects, that I'm very careful how I use the new words because one of
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the criteria we use for how we should use and spell a word is what we see
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in print. So I know if I put it in a book and tens or hundreds of
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thousands of people read it, that in a sense becomes a tiny bit of
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authority. I try to use the words in a way that I want people to use
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them. I spell Unix the way I think people ought to spell Unix, and I talk
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about it that way. The same way as I talk about a newsgroup. I use the
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word newsgroup in the new modern meaning of a Usenet discussion group. I
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don't call it net.news for instance. Some people do. I call it Usenet
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because I want people to call it Usenet. I want to codify that word.
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I think one of the most interesting words that you can see that is becoming
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part of the vocabulary is RTFM. To me RTFM is a great word because it's
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becoming a word in its own, and I want to help it become a word in its
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own, and it doesn't have any vowels so I think that's pretty neat. To me
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the idea of RTFM grew out of the original meaning which was an acronym
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which meant Read The Fucking Manual, and it meant nothing more than that.
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It just meant read the manual before you ask somebody a question, but now
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RTFM means a much broader idea. It means that you should try to help
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yourself before you ask for help. It means the other side of that coin
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that if somebody who has tried to help themselves and they ask you for
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help than you have an obligation to help them. RTFM is very important
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because the Net is so large that it is literally impossible for everybody
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to be taught what they need to know to use it, so it needs a culture of
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teaching yourself. RTFM is a new net.word and I try to codify in my books
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by explaining it and using it as a word in this new language. We do have
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a few new words to talk about this new Net idea that exists, so in some
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small sense to answer your question, yes, I see one of my jobs as
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defining and codifying and exemplifying this new vocabulary so people
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around the world can use it.
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v: That's an interesting way of transforming that acronym from a
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snide retort to something between an ethics and an etiquette...
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h: Well, if you take any word in the dictionary and look it up in one of
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these large dictionaries that shows the history of the word you always
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see it started out somewhere, in English it's usually Greek or Latin, but
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it could have started of with an English word that meant something and
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then got turned into this and that, all our words came from somewhere. I
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noticed that RTFM was originally an acronym, and then people started
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using it like a verb, like "I RTFM'ed but I couldn't find the answer".
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And they started using it like a noun sometimes and so on, and people
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just do this because new words are formed all the time. When new ideas
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exist there's a vacuum until a new word comes along to express that idea.
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So the vacuums usually get filled fairly quickly, and one of my jobs is
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to notice these new words and to point them out to people and teach them
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the vocabulary. Not all the technical terms necessarily, but the
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vocabulary of ideas because they can't understand or think or talk about
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the Net until they have the words that express the ideas that are part of
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the Net. So it's much more important to learn these things than it is,
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say, some technical option for anonymous FTP or something like that.
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v: So you see part of your role as helping to establish a basic literacy?
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h: I think that's a good way of putting it, but I want to be very clear
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that I'm not making new stuff up and saying that anyone should be
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literate by repeating how I think it should be done. I'm more of an
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observer. I observe what the literate people on the Net do, how they
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talk, how they think, how they express themselves, what words they use,
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and then I write in that same language so when you read what I write you
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are really reading the language of the literate people on the Net. I
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guess if you read some books in English that are written to express the
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vocabulary and ideas of, say, the most educated people in our society,
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then by reading those books you can learn new words and you can learn
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ideas and you can learn how educated people think. In this sense, if you
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can read an Internet book that discusses things in the way that the most
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literate net.people do then you can start to become part of that culture,
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part of that society, and you want to aspire to learn how to think like the
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best people in your culture not like the mainstream more popular people
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in the culture.
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v: You talk quite a bit in your books about the global nature of the Net,
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and the fact that it is the largest gathering, and you say that people
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won't be excluded on the Net due to race or wealth or religion and all of
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those sorts of things. Are there ultimately going to be techinical
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hierarchies that are set up in terms of how well you can use the tools at
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hand?
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h: Can I turn that question around and change it a little bit?
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v: Certainly, feel free.
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h: Are there or will there be exclusions on the Net based on other
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criteria? The answer is definitely yes. You see, every group in society,
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even a large social organization...
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let me backtrack and say I don't think this is a huge global
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organization, I think it's a collection of small, ever-changing, coming
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in to being and then disappearing, smaller social organizations. anyways...
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Any social organization does exclude people, but on the Net they don't
|
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exclude people on the basis of what you look like. The exclusions are
|
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based on intelligence and ability so on the Net we don't discriminate
|
|
against people of the wrong color. We discriminate against stupid people,
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And we don't discriminate against people who don't have enough money; we
|
|
discriminate against people who are lazy. We don't discriminate against
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people who are the wrong religion; we discriminate against people who
|
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aren't willing to learn something so they can use a new tool. We don't
|
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discriminate against people who wear the wrong clothes; we discriminate
|
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against people who in a discussion don't have anything important to say
|
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or act like idiots. In a very crude way the Net discriminates/excludes
|
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stupid people. It's not supposed to be fair, but there's too much in life
|
|
where you can be accepted even if you're sub-standard, and on the Net
|
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that doesn't work because you don't see anybody and you can have
|
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completely free choice in who you want to talk to. When you read Usenet
|
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articles which ones you want to respond to or pay attention to. If you
|
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want to say something bad about what someone said you can just go ahead
|
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and do it, and you also have enormous freedom to say and do whatever you
|
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want because you know you can't really hurt someone. If you send them a
|
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mean spirited reply to something they've posted in a newsgroup you know
|
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it doesn't hurt them really, not like if you discriminate against them
|
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and don't hire them for a job because you don't like their color or you
|
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hit them and take away their money or something. We have enormous
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freedom, and it's really a meeting of the minds. It's certainly not a
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meeting of the bodies or of the mouths or the ears or anything like that.
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I wouldn't say so much of a hierarchy, but as we organize ourselves into
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transient social units that there definitely is a premium put on people
|
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whose minds work better than other people's. For example, if you're
|
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talking on IRC, if there's five people in a conversation and one person
|
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has intelligent, interesting things to say, and the other person is kind
|
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of a dullard, doesn't have much to say, then the attention gravitates
|
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towards the person who has something more interesting to say, and so
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there's a discrimination there, a discrimination of ideas, and a
|
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discrimination of what really is worthwhile about human beings. Some
|
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people might feel it's worthwhile to be big and large and be a football
|
|
player, but when you come right down to it what serves us most as human
|
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beings are people who are smart and have ideas and can be convincing and
|
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compelling. People who can teach other people, contributing ways where a
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mind can meet another mind. I think there's one thing that's very
|
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appealing to smart people about the Net is that you can go ahead and no
|
|
matter what you're like in the other part of your life you can just go
|
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and let whatever brilliance you have shine forth and people will
|
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appreciate it. I think this is one of the things that's scary to other
|
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people. I don't mean people get scared at the beginning because it's a
|
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new society and they're not used to the nuances. Everybody feels that,
|
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but people who aren't very smart, people who are lazy, people who don't
|
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want to work hard, people who don't want to teach themselves something,
|
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they don't like it so much because for the first time they're actually
|
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being judged on what they're worth, and they can't get an incomplete and
|
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they can't do extra work to turn a C into a B and they can't show they're
|
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good because they earn more money or something like that. The only thing
|
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that makes them worthwhile is what they say and what they think and what
|
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comes out in words, it's not what they look like and I think that's scary
|
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to a lot of people, other people just lap it up and they love it.
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v: I guess we hesitate to use IRC as the only example because there are
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people who are more shy who do very well on the asyncronous environments
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like Usenet.
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h: That's a very good point. Everybody has different ways of expressing
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themselves and communicating. What's great about the Net is we've used
|
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this physical Internet and created all these types of communication that,
|
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if you like talking in real time you can talk in real time and if you
|
|
like being thoughtful and thinking about what you're doing and writing it
|
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down and changing it you can talk in Usenet discussion groups where you
|
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have all the time you want, and different people who shine in different
|
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ways can find somewhere to shine on the Net. I guess the way I would put
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it is that the great thing about the Net is no matter what you're good at
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there's a place for you, there's nobody who doesn't have a place on the Net
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because the Net is made up of millions of people and although you may not
|
|
get along with your neighbor, in a set of millions of people, there are
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going to be people there for you.
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v: That's a good way to talk about that.
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h: But there is an obligation, you see, we don't pay for the Net. You
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might pay twenty, thirty, fifty bucks a month to get access, you might
|
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have it for free because of where you work or where you go to school, but
|
|
we don't really pay for it because there's this hugely enormous
|
|
infrastructure and nobody pays for that. It's paid for by organizations
|
|
and governments and so on out of taxes or tuition or whatever. We do have
|
|
an obligation, but our obligation is not a monetary one. Our obligation is to
|
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educate ourselves and train ourselves to use the tools, to learn some
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etiquitte, to learn how to get along with other people, and to not back
|
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away from learning things that you can't just learn in ten seconds. We
|
|
have an obligation to start using our brains here, and stop being lazy,
|
|
and maybe stop watching so much television. I say that in a sense that
|
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whatever part of your brain is engaged when you watch television is the
|
|
exact opposite of what's engaged when you're using the Net. The more you
|
|
watch television, the harder it is to use the Net. The more you use the
|
|
Net, the less satisfying television will be.
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v: Let's go back to the access question. It's a wealth issue, you have to
|
|
have the money to afford a computer or afford an account, and then
|
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there's a lot of talk about commercialization/privatization issues, where
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do you think this is all going to work in as far as public access goes?
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h: One of the things we have to do on the Net is to stop being parochial.
|
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We have to learn that we're talking about more than just the United States
|
|
here. Every country is organized differently, and there's vast changes,
|
|
and vast differences in size. In the United States the Net I believe is
|
|
going to become more and more commercial because the government is going
|
|
to want to stop paying for it. In other countries, they're much smaller
|
|
and I don't know if it could be supported by direct market competition,
|
|
so the government will probably still support the Net.
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But within the United States, if I can answer your question, the Net will
|
|
become more commercial, and I think what we will start to see is that
|
|
access to the Net will be a lot more like access to the telephone system
|
|
and access to the postal system in that there will be providers, at least
|
|
in the short term. It won't be exactly like this, but it will be like
|
|
cable tv, telephone, buying electricity, buying gas, putting stamps to
|
|
send something. I don't know what exact form it will take, but I think
|
|
that the government is going to get more and more out of the Net business
|
|
and let private enterprise get more and more into the Net business. We
|
|
may see the days when many people have free access to the Net start to
|
|
disappear. We may have to start paying for it, but I think that the
|
|
prices will be reasonable and it will be worth it. I think that it is
|
|
going to become such an important part of many people's lives that we
|
|
can't do without it. After all, no matter what it costs within reason,
|
|
you have to have a telephone and you have to have access to the postal
|
|
system and you pretty much have to be able to buy electricity and maybe
|
|
gas if you need gas where you live, and the Net is going to be like that.
|
|
There's a company in the northeast United States that is going to start
|
|
selling net.access through cable. You can buy access to the Net by
|
|
plugging your computer into a coax(ial) cable. You won't have to get a
|
|
regular modem and dial up a host computer. The advantage of this is that
|
|
the direct hook-up will be closer to the speeds of an ethernet network as
|
|
opposed to the speeds of a regular modem. All these experiments that will
|
|
start to happen in the United States over the next few years and we'll
|
|
see what happens, which ones work out and which ones don't. There's going
|
|
to be enormous change in the Net. There's something that just happened in
|
|
the last year and it's hard to characterize, except we'll look back and
|
|
we'll figure out what it was, that some great fundamental change happened
|
|
in the Net and people are starting to perceive that it's a necessity of
|
|
life, and now all of our culture, advertising, business, laws, government
|
|
agencies, newspapers, public opinion is all going to start to be part of
|
|
the Net like it is part of our newspapers, telephone, postal system and
|
|
so on. We're going to embrace this part of our culture and things are
|
|
going to change a lot.
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Could I talk about why I think the Net is important?
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v: Yes! Great!
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h: Of course we have email which we can't do without now, and we have
|
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gopher and Usenet and all these other things, but I think the Net is more
|
|
important in another way. When you write books, it's a lot of work, and
|
|
you have to sit home and you're all alone and you do all this work and
|
|
you never get to meet the people who read the book and if they like them
|
|
you never really get much praise from them because a book writer never
|
|
really meets his audience. So you have to have an inner drive that keeps
|
|
you going. One of them is certainly money because that's how I earn my
|
|
living, and people who write books, if they don't write, they don't make
|
|
money. But I have a much larger drive here, at least in writing about the
|
|
Internet and UNIX, in that I think it has an importance that transcends
|
|
the obvious things like email and gopher and so on. I think that it's the
|
|
most important vehicle for world peace that we've ever had the chance to
|
|
use yet. I trace back the events of the last twenty-five years that we
|
|
really notice in the last five years the change in the Soviet Union, the
|
|
changes in China which are happening, the Berlin Wall falling, the Arabs
|
|
and Israelis talking together, many many changes I believe, why is this
|
|
happening now, why not before? Because information flows freely now from
|
|
place to place. I have a belief that inherently people are good, not
|
|
everybody all the time, but as a race we are good people, whatever good
|
|
means. If we are allowed free and unfettered communication, free and
|
|
adequate communication between ourselves, we will want to be peaceful, we
|
|
will want to help each other, we will want to get along. Over the last
|
|
two generations as information began to be global with CNN news and
|
|
satellites and all these things all over the place, that's when the world
|
|
started to wake up and start working together and get along better. I
|
|
think that the potential for the Net for people to communicate is much
|
|
larger than the newspapers and radio and television. I see the Net as
|
|
being our best hope, in fact, our inevitable hope and it definitely will
|
|
happen, for the world finally starting to become a global community and
|
|
everybody just getting along with everyone else. Now I don't mean this on
|
|
a personal level, you'll still be fighting with the person next door, I
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mean that countries will start to get along. I mean that the economies of
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all the different countries and all the divisions within a country
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because of the Net and global trade and less tariffs and television, will
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become so dependent on one another that no one will be able to afford to
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make war anymore or to fight on a large scale and it will become
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unthinkable. For example, it's absolutely unthinkable for the United
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States to go to war with Japan now, even thought there is a history of
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animosity there in the past, the two economies are so tied together it
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would be like you going to war with your foot, you couldn't shoot
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yourself in the foot because it would end up killing you. The Net is
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tying together the world in such a way that the best of human nature
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comes out, and it's what is making the world more and more peaceful and
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more and more wonderful. It's the most important gift we have to leave
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the generations that come after us, and that's why it's so important for
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me to make the Net, and to make UNIX accesible to people. Until people
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learn what they need to use these social organizations, none of this can
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happen. The more people that learn how to use the Net, the more people
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participate in these transient social organizations, and the faster we
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evolve into a wonderful human culture that is really our birthright. I
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think we're just starting to see the potential of human beings, and the
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Net is starting to do that for us. In a very narrow sense, and I'm being
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ignorant here, but that all of human culture and history and effort so
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far has been sort of concentrating just so we can all get connected up
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together, and finally we are all getting connected up together and now
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we're going to see what happens. This is really the beginning of human
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culture right now starting in the early 1990's, and what we're seeing is
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far more wonderful and exciting and interesting than anything that anybody
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ever dreamed of before. I really think that there is a watershed here,
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starting with computers in the 50's and the Net in the 80's and 90's, that
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you'll look back and everything before that will be called primitive times.
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v: So how do you start when you're trying to write the COMPLETE reference
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to the Internet? I know you say early on in the book that knowing even
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any big part of the Net is probably beyond any of us. How do you take on
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a project like that?
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h: Well, the way I did this is I said to myself "I imagine a person who
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is extremely literate in the sense that he knows how to use just about
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every important thing that's out there on the Net to at least a basic
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level." That's saying a lot. So I answered the question "What does a
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literate person need to know right now about how to use the Net?" So for
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example, if you read the chapter about gopher, veronica, and jughead, you
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will learn what a literate person needs to know about gopher, veronica,
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and jughead. That's how I went about doing it. The Internet Complete
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Reference is almost a misnomer, maybe a better title would be What a
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Literate, Informed, Intelligent Person Should Know About Every Aspect of
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the Internet.
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v: Be tough to put all of that on the cover though! We have previously
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talked about interfaces and how the Net is going to be made accessible to
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new users. You'd expressed something close to disdain in the book about
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the wide use of graphic interfaces as a solution to UNIX as what is
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perceived to be an unfriendly system. Do you want to talk a little about
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where you think the interface trail is leading?
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h: OK. You used the word solution and I really don't think that there is
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a problem here, or if there is a problem it's not what some people think
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the problem is. The problem is not that the Net is hard to use, the
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problem with UNIX is not that UNIX is hard to use. Let's take a look at
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something simple like a newspaper. Almost everbody in the country over
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the age of whatever who learns to read can read a newspaper. Look how
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much work is involved in learning how to read a newspaper. I mean, you
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have to learn how to read, and that's difficult, it takes years. You have
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to learn the layout of the newspaper, you have to learn the conventions.
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Reading the newspaper is actually a very difficult thing to learn how to
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do. If you took somebody who was raised away from culture, somebody
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raised by wolves on a desert island, and they might be the same age as
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you now and they might be able to speak english, but if you tried to
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teach them how to read a newspaper it might take years. If you say a
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newspaper is difficult to learn how to read, the solution is not to make
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the newspaper easier, it's not to publish newspapers where everything is
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made in simple pictures because you lose too much. You gain so much by
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being able to express yourself in the newspaper in words and complex
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ideas and sentence structure, using grammar and layout and columns and
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continuations and pictures and so on, that you would lose too much if you
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said all newspapers have to be made up of simple pictures that people who
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don't know how to read can understand because that way they'll be
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accesible to everybody. No, we don't do that. What we say is "If you want
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to be part of our culture, you have to learn how to read." If you want to
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use the Net and you want to use UNIX and you want to use a program it's a
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mistake to say "let's make it so easy that somebody on their first day or
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their first week will feel familiar with it and will feel at home and
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will find it easy." That would be just as much a mistake as saying "we
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can't have any written newspapers we can only have simple pictures that
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are delivered to your door every day." The problem with people accessing
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is the same problem that somebody has in accessing the newspaper who
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can't read. So, the solution is not to say the newspaper has to be all
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simple pictures, but that the person has got to learn how to read.
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There's not a problem that the Net is too hard, there's only people who
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haven't learned how to use it yet. You lose too much of the complexity by
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trying to make it too simple. You can't make it simple to learn because
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it's not a simple thing. You can't make a newspaper simple to read
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because it's not a simple thing. What you can do is build a tool that
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once a person learns it, it will be easy to use. When we talk about
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making these easy to use we have to distinguish between somebody that has
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experience, and somebody that doesn't. What we have to do is make things
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easier to use by people with experience. If we try to make everything
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easy to use for the people that don't have experience, then we end up
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watering everything down, and we end up losing the ability to express
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complex ideas and do complex things. Imposing a easy to use graphical
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user interface on many of the things on the Net isn't going to work.
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What's necessary is to say not that the system is hard to use, in fact
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I'll explain in a minute the Internet is extremely easy to use for what
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it does, the problem is that it takes a while to learn it. So what we
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have to do is we have to help people learn how to access it, and we have
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to encourage them to keep trying because at the beginning it's not going
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to seem easy. We have to help people so that they will keep trying until
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it becomes second nature. Some people perceive that it's difficult, we
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have to change that perception. One of the things is that a lot of people
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come to Net when they are already adults. I think what you will find is
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that the kids who are using the Net will learn how to use the stuff
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without any problem at all and they'll feel right at home and when
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they're 25 they won't understand why a 25 year old would think that
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anonymous FTP is a difficult thing to learn how to use anymore than
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at your age you think how anybody could think that driving is difficult
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to use. We really need to look at things in a different way. We have to
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let people know that what they are embarking on is worthwhile and is
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lot of fun and profitable and interesting, but it's going to be
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frustrating at the beginning. We have to resist the temptation to make it
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easy for newcomers. We want to make it easy for the population that's
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already in there not the new people coming in, and we want to make it
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easy for the new people coming in, in the sense that we encourage them
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and give them good instruction. The Net works very well right now, it
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works very well with email and Usenet and gopher and all these things
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that you can't pick up the first day, but once you learn how to use them
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the system works great. The idea behind RTFM is to recognize that there
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are always people who are learning, and that everybody is always learning
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something. So we have to have a tradition and a mechanism where you try
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to learn and teach yourself, and then once you try anyone is obligated to
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help you. We could turn it around and make it more personal. Once you
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learn how to use a tool then you are obligated to teach anybody else as
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long as they've tried first. That's the tradition we're building up, and
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we need a tradition of better books for people to buy and better online
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documentation and so on. That's the solution, and that's what the real
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problem is. The Net isn't hard, it's just strange at the beginning.
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Resist the temptation to try to make it look like what you already know.
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It's something different and you don't understand it. Try to just think
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of it as a culture and appreciate it over a period of months rather than
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thinking that you have to change it right away to make it easy. You have
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to change yourself, the Net isn't going to change. You have to mold into
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the society. Nobody asks you to give up your individuality, but you have
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to learn the rules and how they work and that's what has to happen on the
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Net.
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v: If there's a problem it's that the Net is scary to begin with, and
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certainly we have to get folks from the point where they don't know how
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to do enough to the point where they are literate and can start helping
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other people. The GUI solution could very easily trim down the power of
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the system itself. I guess the other solution is to provide a friendly,
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frequently funny, easy to use book like the things you are writing.
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h: The problem is not a computer problem it's a person problem, so the
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solution won't be a computer solution like an interface. The solution is
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going to be the solution to what do you do with people who want to learn
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how to do something but they are scared of it. If you can remember back
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to your first day of school, kindergarten or something, it was very scary
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and yet you did it anyway. A lot of things in our life we take on
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participation in new parts of our society. It's fearful in the sense that
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we don't know what to expect and we're not accepted yet and everybody
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know more than we do, but we have to do it anyway because it's part of
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the rites of passage of being a human being in our culture. The big
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difference between that and the Net is that if you feel this anxiety when
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you start to use it then nobody will drag you into it. I guess it's
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important for some books, I try to do it in my books, is to realize that
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unlike going to school, people don't have to use the Net, and if they get
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scared at the beginning they might stop using it or they might stay away
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from the parts of it that they're anxious about and just stay in nice
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safe places. I want them to explore and use everything. I make an effort
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to show people that it's really a social thing, and what you are really
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doing is communicating with other people and using the tools that other
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people have built. We have to be very careful to walk the line between
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encouraging people to use this new global set of transient social
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organization and making them feel comfortable, and pandering to them.
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When people enter this new social organization there's a lot of new rules
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and new culture and nuances and their own language. They're confronting
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not the difficulty of initiation, they're confronting the demons that lie
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inside themselves. The real problems are what lies inside everybody when
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they try something new, and the solution is not always to pander to that,
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but to tell people "I will help you, but you have to help yourself. I
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will help teach you things, but you have to want to bring out the best in
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yourself. You can feel a little fearful some of the time if it's new as a
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human being. But it's not scary. It's a wonderful, nurturing, comfortable
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place to be." If you look at any social organization we've ever had, from
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living with one person to countries to communities to businesses to
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non-profit organizations, this large global network that we call the Net
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works better than any organization we've ever had. There's less fighting
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there's less bickering. It's a democratic anarchy. There's nobody in
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charge. There's no police, there's no rules, there's only etiquitte and
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guidelines. Wouldn't you love to live in a world where everything is run
|
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by etiquitte rather than rules and law and people enforce things because
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they want to be nice people and they voluntarily act nice rather than
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having police or parents or teachers telling you what to do, that's what
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the Net is like. Most people are much nicer on the Net than they are in
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real life. The Net brings out the best in people. Any effort you put in
|
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to learn how to access and talk to the other people on the Net is going
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to pay you back much more than the effort that you put in.
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I just want everybody to start using the Net and fulfilling themselves as
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a human being.
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A SHOuT IN THE DARK
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"ever since the beginning of time it seems whenever human
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beings have had a chance to communicate, they do"
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--Harley Hahn
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Something brings us together.
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In the end it is not profit margin or corporate strategy or pentium chips
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or the PowerPC. It is a more simple answer. All of these other ideas are
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the peripherals to our basic need for interaction.
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The Net is more than a computer network comprised of many smaller
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networks. It is a place to hear the voices of humanity, and a place to
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have your voice heard. This is the need we feed on. This is what drives
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us to sit unblinking in front of our terminals looking into the
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phospheresence, searching.
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Searching. Searching for companionship, for community, for a voice out in
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the dark to make us forget about exactly how alone we really are, and how
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big this world of ours is, and how endless time is, and how finite we are.
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We can find that on the Net.
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And any marketing department, academy theorist or politician can't change
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that urge within us. And no amount of commercialization or privitization
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or any other kind of -zation you can name will ever be able to stand in
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the way of people simply getting together with other people to be with
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one another.
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We all may speak different languages English, Spanish, Dutch, French,
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German, IBM, Macintosh, Amiga, DOS, UNIX, Linux, but these categories are
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simply obstacles, and we are left finally with that need.
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The need to talk to someone.
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To hear the voices, to feel the voices wash over us in a wave of white
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noise. It's there, and you can feel it, but you can't quite grasp it, so
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you continue on and search for more because it feels good and it feels
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right.
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The Net is a conduit for this need.
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It flows into the gaping mouth and fills the empty belly.
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And if you are lucky, it doesn't give you indigestion.
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The content will change, the languages will morph, the Net itself will
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some day turn into something I suspect will be quite unrecognizable to
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current users. But in the end it is clear enough.
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We will find a way. A way to latch on to that shout echoing through the
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blackness. A way to connect with the fellow members of this small
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community we call planet earth.
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Since the dawn of time man has sought ways in which to make the bonds of
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isolation disappear. This search has brought with it corollary moments of
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good and bad to the history of mankind. The Net now brings with it the
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ultimate chance to break these chains. It is only up to us whether the
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moment will be one to which we can look as an example of humanity and
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brotherhood, or one which will tear us even further apart.
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"The major advances in civilization are processes that all but wreck the
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societies in which they occur."
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-- A.N. Whitehead
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Good night. Sleep tight. Don't let the net.bugs byte.
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--CountZero
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PREVIEWS: _Voices from the Net 1.4_
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The _Voices_ crews journeys deeper into the realm of term papers and
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student assignments that need grading... Actually, the next issue should
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be a continuation of the discussion we started with Harley Hahn. Look for
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more thoughts on "translating" the net, spiffy GUIs. etc... Also, more
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letters of comment and the usual ramblings from bookish and CZ.
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See ya then...
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INFO
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"Voices from the Net" is an electronic magazine filled with interviews,
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and essays presenting the "voices" of folks from a wide variety of online
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environments. Its purpose is to be both entertaining and useful -
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net-literature and net-ethnography combined. The editors are
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committed to an exploration of as many of the odd corners of "cyberspace"
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as they can access, and they welcome readers to join them for the ride.
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"Voices from the Net" will appear on a more-or-less monthly schedule, and
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"Voices from the Net", issues 1.1, 1.1.5 (supplement), and 1.2 are
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The current issue (text version) should be available under "Miscellaneous"
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In a perfect world, we could just post this, send it out through the wires
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and forget about it. In a perfect world... In this world, we have things
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like copyright laws, legal permissions, the need to "own" one's words.
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This document is free, but it is not public domain. The individual authors
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retain the rights to their work. You may reproduce and distribute it. In
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fact, we encourage it. Spreading free information is part of what "Voices
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from the Net" is all about. Just keep it FREE. We hope that the zine will
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be useful as well as entertaining. If it seems useful to you, then use it.
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But be collegial. Cite your sources(*), and don't take liberties with the
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text. Respect the voices contained here. [* Thanks to Bruce Sterling for
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inspiration, and for support.]
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