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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 93 15:32:31 PDT
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From: surfpunk@osc.versant.com (obqvrf qernzf naq grpuabybtvrf)
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To: surfpunk@osc.versant.com (SURFPUNK Technical Journal)
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Subject: [surfpunk-0095] SOURCES: PERFORATIONS 5; Drum; SCREAM BABY; Legal Net News
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@ I've lost 10 minutes of work because of the nVIR virus
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@ on the copy of CricketGraph I once used. I lost one
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@ whole week of work (2400 minutes) helping figure out
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@ why Windows, Novell, and Dr Dos wouldn't work
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@ together. Files were lost, machines crashed, device
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@ drivers kept stomping one another. The problems were
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@ fixed in bug patches from the manufacturers.
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@ -- Karl Lui Barrus <klbarrus@owlnet.rice.edu>
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@ [from a long cypherpunks posting]
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You may remember, I have great respect for the Public Domain group in
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Atlant that publishes PERFORATIONS. Drum is new to me. I've enjoyed
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past issues of SCREAM BABY; the evolution of their copyright policy is
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a major thread, if not the raison d'etre, for the zine. Legal Net News
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is nicely done, and references a lot of other internet resources. -- strick
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From: Mike Mitten <gnome@noel.pd.org>
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From: Chea Prince <cprince>
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CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS: PERFORATIONS 5, "bodies, dreams & technologies"
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The word "virtual" has been the subject of such a large degree of hype
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that it is difficult to use the term without cringing at the
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trendiness of its sound, and yet, despite its status as the premier
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buzzword of the nineties, it continues to suggest a relationship
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between consciousness and electronic space that is rich and
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descriptive. Just beneath the term's slick corporate gloss is a leaky
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matrix of nested meanings that invoke key dimensions of the emerging
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culture of the 21st century: artificiality, simulation,
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representation, mimesis, prosthesis, multi-dimensionality,
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multiplicity, hyperness, velocity, otherness, the mechanical, the
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machinic, high technology, and, by extension, digitalization, fractal
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scaling, transpositionality, and networking.
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A close reading of this complex system of semiotic flows reveals a
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thoroughly mapped, but unstable network of faults along which the
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domains of the human and the machine are collapsing into each other
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with increasing speed. Taken together these faults constitute the
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"new edge" of U.S. culture where separate consciousnesses are
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continually merging into an ever more sexed, violent, hallucinogenic,
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and media-saturated conflation of mindscapes. This evolving,
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networked collectivity is marked by a growing obsession with
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the traces of the transformation of the human into the cyborg, and
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seems enthralled by recycled transfiguration myths often overwritten on
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the electronic skin of the textual/cultural body with the neon intensity
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of transient, kaleidoscopic tattoos. Easily distracted, the
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individual elements of the collective gaze hypnotically surf available
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information channels grabbing frames in real-time from first one, then
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another, of the latest technetronic updates to the new suit of
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animated tribal scarrings.
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Fixation on new and improved, bigger and better, longer-living bodies
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facillitates acceptance of devices first constructed as attachments to
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the body, then redesigned for incorporation into the body via
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implantation, or nerve/machine integration (e.g., artificial hearts,
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prosthetic limbs, hearing aids, etc.), as a welcome blurring of the
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boundary between humans and machines. As the boundary becomes more
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blurred, the domains begin to blend. It is easy to imagine a future
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in which implantation follows a (plastic) surgical model in which purely
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corrective measures become the foundation for supplemental, elective
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procedures.
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With the aid of future developments in present technologies--artificial
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intelligence, bio-chips, synthetic neurons, nanotechnology, artificial life--
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the body's rate of absorption of the machine will only increase causing rapid
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advancements in cyborgization. How will these fields re-define
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already complicated issues of embodiment? How will cyborgization
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affect changes in social/cultural orientations toward real and virtual
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phenomena? Which is the metaphor--the body or the machine?
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PERFORATIONS 5, "bodies, dreams & technologies", will collect and assemble
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memories, stories and fantasies exploring the relationship between the human
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and the machine, and the impact of this relationship on the creation of
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present and near-future cultures. We value noise, chaos, fluxus, anarchy,
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dada-streams, nonhierarchalization, improvisation, conflict, discontinuity,
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experimentation, invention and wild speculation. (We also tolerate more
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reasonned presentations as long as they avoid being too priggish.) We are
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looking for material--drawings, photography, text, hypertext, computer
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graphics, animation, audio and video--that is explicitly experimental in
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the approach taken toward these themes.
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ALL SUBMITTALS SHOULD INCLUDE:
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the author(s) name address and phone number
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ADDRESS INQUIRIES AND SUBMISSIONS TO:
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PERFORATIONS 5
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c/o Public Domain, Inc.
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P.O. Box 8899
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Atlanta, Georgia, USA 30306-0899
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NOTE: SUBMISSION MATERIALS ARE NOT RETURNABLE UNLESS ACCOMPANIED BY A
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SASE.
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CONTACT:
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Chea Prince 404.633.8022
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Anne Balsamo 404.894.8923
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Robert Cheatham 404.377.5114
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or Email queries to perf5@pd.org
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PERFORATIONS is a publication of Public Domain, Inc., an Atlanta based
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non-profit arts organization. Partial funding of PERFORATIONS is provided
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by the Fulton County Arts Council, corporate and individual sponsors.
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________________________________________________________________________
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To: surfpunk@versant.com (Squiggle Rot Thirteen ;)
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From: Justin Mason <jmason@iona.ie>
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Subject: Scream Baby -- The Hum Drum Issue
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 17:23:42 BST
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In case you don't know, Scream Baby is the output of one
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BladeX, based somewhere in Texas. I think a few SB backissues
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are to be found in the eff.org gopher area; they're very
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intermittent, but they're very cool stuff, one of the best
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e-zines on this here net... just hard to get. Check out the
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licensing! -- justin.
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[forwarded from FringeWare -- see below for sub details]
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From: dh644@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (R. Patrick Jones)
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Subject: Drum. Volume 1. Number 1.
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Date: 22 May 1993 18:33:11 GMT
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=Drum= D we're talking about transfor-
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edited by rpj R mation here, the line by line
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grafik concept st. witch U by edit endless unrepentant
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online translation doomboy M charge up and out through the
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d self to society becoming as
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special thanks: hipriestess - r large as society and enacting a
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asexual guru of love - john b. u physiochemicalspiritual change
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- brunette dreamr - kozmik tryb m so cataclysmic that it ruptures
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- disciples of RAM - books & D all the old organs out and
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co. - peirce & barb - doomboy - R regenerates raging.
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m.t. capone - U
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M our generation was raised with
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xtra peace 2:: eris - yvonne s. d icons of bugs bunny, speed
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- t. macneeley - annye camara r racer, battle of the planets
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(dreams into action) - my folks u and now in our early twenties a
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- mr. gabbard - judy y. - m presentation of a technological
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D myth that touches the very core
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xtra props: william lee - brain R of our spirit. within an age
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cell possee - nova mob - pax to U where warfare is fought through
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all! M the stamping over of under-
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d developed countries; whipped up
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . r into a jihad fever to take oil,
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u the lifeblood of our mechanical
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m society. or perhaps warfare as
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feature "acid house" music and D the assumption that there
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on has been growing in europe ( R truly are no rules. planting
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the united kingdom) and in some U bombs in baby carriages; in
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called "rave" features synthesi M international flights, assuming
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also been very popular in the g d that anyone who doesn't take a
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number of years after its intro r side is expendable, that there
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substance. it became illegal w u are no innocents left in the
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that it caused permanent damage m world & that the object is to
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research has failed to support D become terrifying technological
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illegal, and strange stories ci R specters hiding out and using
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causes the spinal cord to lique U the same guerrilla tactics that
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stories, but both mda and mdma M the viet cong used. the same
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some people snort them or (rare d tactics the revolutionary
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intensifying their action and p r americans used in their war of
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drugs with alcohol or other dep u independence.
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lity or adverse effects. as se m
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the pleasure of touching, but t D if revolution engenders the
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with orgasm in both men and wom R emergence of a force that is
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have been reported; they resemb U more repressive than the
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almost identical to serotonin, M previous then it's that force
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different hallucinogenic state d elemental that can't be
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in ayahuasca, where it is combi r destroyed. which leaves one to
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make the dmt orally active. in u conclude that this destruction
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injected or smoked to manifest m of rule is impossible.
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within seconds, and the trip la D
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dose. one distinctive characte R . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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tendency to produce visions of U
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terence mckenna has written and M TOWARD THE INFINITE . . . .*
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ordinary phenomenology of the d d + .. .* .
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reports we have had from others r .. . . + . .. .. . +
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"elf" contacts. mckenna was al u + .... . .. + . :. :
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he called "visible language," o m .... + . : ...
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colored modalities that have li D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . U once looped she could use them.
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M surprisingly beautiful; the mel
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10111001101.\ .| / 01011010000 d being into hybrid instruments.
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001011000000.\.| /.001111110111 r the presence an underground str
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0110010000111... 1011110100111 u
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110000000111 / | \.100000100111 m know that the seven spheres mus
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R know that the four beasts of th
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U iniate, each in their own time
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=NOTES TOWARD A MANIFESTO= M ever to rise to the stars, and
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d then a new age will come of ear
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the fact that technology is r whole, and the waters will be a
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here should never in any way u not been named. remember to pr
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limit our soul and spirit. we m the family. the elder sign and
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have within our grasp the D watcher too if they be slow. a
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seedlings of machinations that R that time, for the blood will b
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can alter the future of the U and will call them. beware of
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homo sapiens. we must coalesce M cult of the dog, the cult of th
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our apocalyptic surroundings d they are worshippers of the anc
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into a unified myth to rescript r in for they have a formula of w
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this rape of our souls. we u these cults are not strong, sav
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have been molested not by m open up to them and unto their
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technology but by the mentality D
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behind it, which offers nothing R . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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but a narrow faddish view of U
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our consumed selves. we have M Rearrange these six matchsticks
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been bred to be perfect para- d to make "nothing." No match-
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sites, cogs in a machine that r sticks may be bent, broken or
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gave us the persian gulf, h- u placed over each other.
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bombs, vietnam, a.i.d.s., m
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george bush, holes in the ozone D o o o o o o
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& on & on ad nauseam. R | | | | | |
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majik is the act of manipu- M | | | | | |
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lating media, to wrap words, d
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images, sounds, lectures & tv r . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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into a whirlwind. to defeat u
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the "rational" mind and teach m mescaline was isolated from pey
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and re-educate humanity's D only naturally occurring psyche
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collective unconscious. to R related drugs. throughout the
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re-introduce ritual, to show U philosophers, and psychologists
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the path of urban shamanism or M but there was no general demand
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techno-paganism, to perform the d adrenaline a few artists with
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Great Work. r revolution of the 1960s. then
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u appear. however, since the dru
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each piece, each artistic m many dealers sold lsd as mescal
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endeavor is a spell which D needlelike white crystals; half
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presents another petition, R drug may cause initial nausea,
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another suit to mother nuit for U its effects last up to twelve h
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a healing flood and a doorway M the whole cactus.
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once again to angels & demons. d
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to once again unify our minds r mdma (methylenedioxymethampheta
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within our bodies, to transmute u a new drug, mdma (usually calle
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the concept of being human into m mdm, and adam), gives the same
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a glorious being filled with D hours instead of ten to twelve.
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light. R action, it is gentler on the bo
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U by mouth in reasonable doses (1
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and to bring a final fuckin' M mdma rarely causes bad trips.
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end to "civil"ization as we d an enhancer of empathy between
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know it in seducing the goddess r counseling. in other circles i
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to come back home. u reputation as a party drug, bei
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"the price we pay for obtaining D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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information is scrambling up R
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the world somewhere.... in our U . . .
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study of statistical mechanics M . .
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we learned it is not possible d . . .
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to obtain information without r . . . . . .
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increasing entropy" [cosmic u . ..
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code] m . . . . .
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perceptions come via sight. we U . . .
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seek visual overload to disrupt M . . . . . ..
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that. information is the d . . . . . .
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subatomic particle of our r . . . . .
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perception- seek constructs u . . . . .
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actualities thereby making D . . . . . ..
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divination easier to be R . . . . . . .
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realized- our thinking patterns U . . .
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are chemical and the specters M . . .
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of "moral decency" & self d .
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appointed vanguards of r . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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"reality" limit our chemical u
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m processes via laws and "common
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D sense" doctrines- 20th century
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R humyns are stunted in their
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produces the most profoundly U mythmaking abilities due to
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dmt is the active ingredient M these empirical constructs
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h beta-carboline alkaloids to d which having done away with
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ynthetic form, dmt must be r classical deities are left to
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ects. when smoked, it comes on u make potholes of language or
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extensively on the extraord- U as sark says in [inspiration
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porate mckenna's descriptions d ings" which means see elvis in
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first to report on a phenomenon r your revco if you like only
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THIS YOUR SPACE- Leave notes, p M oems, xcetera, send on to
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others- Drum. is not an isolate d d event but an ongoing process.
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u "Slide your longhorn between these
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m towers and pump up a guyser of joy
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D juice! Ya-hoo buckaroo!"
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The Hum-Drum Issue
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| Cyberlicious <tm> | Editor : Blade X | "Did you know that wixer |
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| No more PO BoX! | bladex@wixer.bga.com | is German slang for a |
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| No more BBS! | Neo-Wobblie Node # 269 | penis?" -- Pacoid |
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"With the advent of digital writing and digital text reproduction, will
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literature -- and the culture based on respectful care for the word --
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be eroded?"
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Michael Heim, p. 3, "Electric Language: A
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Philosophical Study of Word Processing", 1987.
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SCREAM BABY POLICIES
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"Some people just don't get it"
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DISTRIBUTION : Permission is granted to freely re-distribute this
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publication via digital means. You are allowed to, but not limited to,
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forwarding copies to your cyber-buddies; posting to newsgroups, message
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bases and mailing lists; making available for file transfer on ftp sites
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and BBSs; and, <censored> the SPA, you can even copy that floppy. No
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registration or shareware fees or any other charges by Cyberlicious <tm>
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will apply to issues distributed in this fashion.
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However, the license to create hard copy print-outs remains restricted.
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Despite my previous protests, objections, and explicit denial of
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permission, many have confessed to printing hard copy versions. So,
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recognizing the indaubtable will of the people, I am amending the
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restrictions......again. <*sigh*>
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You may print hard copies of each issue of Scream Baby, if and
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*ONLY* if an annual donation of $5 (or more) is made to an organization
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that plants trees in your communites. In Austin, I endorse Tree Folks
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/ 1710 Eva St. / Austin, TX 78704. You may send money here, if there is
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no similar organization in your community.
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A suitable substitute would be an organization which buys plots of South
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American rain forests in order to create a preserve. Nothing else
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qualifies. Donations to the charity-of-your-choice do not count, nor do
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they negate you of your responsibilities under this legally binding
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contract.
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Just because I don't have any way of checking doesn't mean that the
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God-of-your-choice ain't watching.
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Contributions to Whale Watcher's Quarterly don't count either, no matter
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how cute you think those dorsal fins look. The only reason I mention
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them is to inform you that my cat Mao Tse-Teung, is now a fierce
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protector of a large humpback whale named Fringe. I told Mao this was
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ok, as long as Fringe didn't come to visit. We have the certificate
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suitable for framing on our refrigerator door, for those who don't
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believe.
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SUBSCRIPTIONS
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A subscription mailing list is available, so that readers may get copies
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delivered *directly* to their e-mail box. To be added to the mailing list,
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answer this essay question,
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"What does the post-cyberpunk scene look like?"
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Send answers (<20,000 words) to bladex@wixer.bga.com.
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"The point about technology is that it has to be a function of some
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imaginative life, otherwise it's just a tool, only a tool. Some of the
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most boring people on the face of the earth are the people obsessed
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with technology, the computer obsessive who wants to tell you what his
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computer can do but doesn't really want to tell you what he can do with
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his computer"
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-- Clive Barker interview, May 1993 issue of Sin Magazine
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* * *
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An idea I've been kicking around is offering advice, tips, hints, and
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maybe eventually a FAQ for those who write, publish, and produce
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e-zinesters. Become an advocate for the scene, help people out, etc.
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etc. Perhaps people can even learn from my mistakes, and avoid
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repeating them.
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TIPS for WANNA-BE E-zinesters
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One of the first mistakes I made was that I started writing and
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collecting material to be published in the first issue of Scream N
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*me*me. What I should have done was write and collect material to be
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placed in the *announcement*. I.e. "Hey, I'm starting a way new cool
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e-zine that's better than the rest of this Internet slag heap; send me
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submissions".
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But no, I wasted my time actually doing stuff instead of just talking
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about it. The inexperience of youth, I guess.
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Some of you are now thinking, hey, I'd like to write an e-zine, but what
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should I write about? Fret no more, here are some ideas/titles that you
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are free to use!
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"Music That No One Else But Me Listens To"
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"I Hate Camille" (Paglia) [ala BID's I Hate Brenda newsletter]
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"The Baroque Aesthetics of Mexican-American low-rider artmobiles"
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"Hackers v. Crackers" -- the raging debate continues
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"1001 Ways to Kill Rush Limbaugh"
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"Why Everyone Else on the Internet Sucks"
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"How to Make Big $$$$$ Exploiting the Internet"
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Uh oh, that last one has just triggered a side rant, involving the issue
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of privatizing the Internet. The future of the internet is "money
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talks". Corporations and governments rule the world. So to all the
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stuck pigs, whining crybabies, and academics accustomed to a lifestyle
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sponsored by federal subsidy.........get a grip. The thing that grates
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me most is this holy glorification of the net as some vital educational
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tool that will save us from America's downward slide into ignorance,
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decadence, and decay. I don't know if the phrase "signal-to-noise
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ratio" means anything. I'm not quite sure which corner of cyberspace
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these people have been hanging out on. But from what I can tell, most
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people who use the Internet are JUST FUCKING AROUND!
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Oh well, enough ediborial.
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For now.
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* * *
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C: Are techno-nerds like cyber-punks?
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B: Yeah, but aren't cyber-punks supposed to be cool?
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C: In a geeky, Elvis Costello kinda way.
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"Interview in Seattle"
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Chris Estey and Bob Black
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p. 230 _Friendly Fire_
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* * *
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FCGSSZ files
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Frequently Claimed Gonna-Subscribe-Someday Zines
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Ad Busters Quarterly
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Ben Is Dead
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Boing-Boing
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Details (so sue me)
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Fact Sheet Five
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Gray Areas
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Mondo 2000
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SF Eye
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Sin (no, this one I'm *really* gonna subscribe to someday)
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Wired
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Your Flesh
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* * *
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An issue of Scream Baby wouldn't be complete without some reviews.
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These get the SBSOA (Scream Baby Seal Of Approval)
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RESERVOIR DOGS -- best fucking movie....*ever*. Walked around like a
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tough guy for 12 minutes going, fuck you, ya looking at me? yeah fuck
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you, too. what, ya wanna piece of me? yeah fuck you. That the film
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demands such intense and active participation by the viewer that you
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*actually* become a cheap, yet professional, hit man. The film's most
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violent scenes occur off-screen. For example, what Mr. Blonde did in
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the jewelry store is never shown, but is created in your own mind based
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on the other characters reactions. What would make professional
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criminals coil in such disgust? *Bam* *Bam* *Bam* He's a fucking
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psychopath.
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Fuck you.
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Where can I get one of those suits?
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FRINGEWARE REVIEW -- One of my previous experiments was a WWIV message
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base called the Cyberspace News Network, a collection of original texts
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as well as documents appropriated from the Internet. Information was
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mainly about the cyberscene, i.e., all that Mondo and Wired stuff.
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Far as I'm concerned, the Fringeware mailing list is the Cyberspace News
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Network of the cyberscene. Besides keeping me informed of what's going
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on, and how I can participate in this that or the other, Don Webb,
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regular contributor, is simply the *weirdest*, hippest thing I've seen
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in a while. The guy ain't from this planet.
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Subscribe now, fringeware-request@wixer.bga.com. [I've said that last
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issue, so what ya waiting for, special engraved invitation?]
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I was going to write all about the physical you can touch paper catalog,
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but then remembered that I promised Paco an article for this issue and
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then never turned it in.
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I better go start now.
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* * *
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"The main things holding people back from doing amazing and interesting
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things are lack of imagination and unjustifiable fear of authority
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figures or of the opinions of other people. Realizing that most authority
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figures and most other people really don't give a shit about you or what
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you do blesses you with the freedom to do whatever you have the courage
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to do."
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-- John Trubee, p.28 of the Summer 1993 Gray Areas
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The SURFPUNK Technical Journal is a dangerous multinational hacker zine
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originating near BARRNET in the fashionable western arm of the northern
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California matrix. Quantum Californians appear in one of two states,
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one of the things i had wanted to do in the beginning
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was for SURPUNK to merely "index" other lists ...
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to hyperlink and crossreference other articles.
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WWW and GOPHER do that with varying degrees of success,
|
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but with the diverse SURFPUNK subscribers that isn't
|
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possible via email (yet). MIME has the potential to help,
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but again, the SURFPUNK readership in general doesn't have
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MIME or the ability to ftp an External-Body block.
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here Andy Hawks speaks of the problem I had hoped
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SURFPUNK would help to solve, instead of make worse ;-)
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-- strick
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 11:49:30 -0600
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From: andy <ahawks@NYX.CS.DU.EDU>
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Subject: Re: sub ezines futurec
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To: Multiple recipients of list FUTUREC
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<FUTUREC@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU>
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[...excerpt...]
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- the idea of metalists needs to be explored
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more...a big bitch-n-moan i've had with the net
|
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lately (as i continue to spend less and less time on
|
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the piece of s---) is the now-dominating (in my mind
|
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anyway) "dung pile" atmosphere....a lot of
|
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newsgroups, elists, gopher and ftp sites seem to
|
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overlap mroe and more than i've ever noticed in the
|
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past, it never seems to stop....people keep
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spreading the same shit all over the place...
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here's a typical example....: a CFP related to
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cyber-research gets posted to alt.cyberpunk,
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sci.vorld [new meme, virtual world], mabe
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comp.org.eff.talk and some other places...so, Joan
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average FCer reads the same post maybe 6 times,
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conceivably, in the same day...so then Joan goes to
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reads er email and finds that three people have
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forwarded the post to fc: "i saw this on alt.cp.."
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"snagged this off sci.vorlds" "grepped through
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alt.soc.futures and found this"... now Joan has
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seen it 9 times...so then Joan goes to gopher for
|
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similar stuph, and encounters thirty entries for it,
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some on ftp.... now Joan decides to go over to the
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WELL and MindVox, and finds the post has made it's
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way over there in a few different places on each
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site... Joan reads the rest of her email -- in her
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private box, ehr friend Bob sent her a copy:
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"thought you might wanna see this"...she finds it's
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made it to a Fringeware post, a Surfpunks post,
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maybe a library list or two....
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i know this is a core aspect of the net,
|
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decentralized spread of information, but I think
|
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there's a big difference between decentralized
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spread (kinda reminds me of "i can't believe it's
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not butter" for some reason =) and and spreading too
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far, wide, and thin...
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this is the wrong direction to venture into, imho.
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i don't know why it happens - i could easily guess
|
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it's jsut an outcome or extension of too-subjective
|
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environments is what it comes down to in the
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end...it seems to me people feel they're filling a
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hole with information, but they're not - they're
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filling a pile. if you've seen it once, the hole is
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filled...if you've seen it twice, you've built a
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pile....
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now if you take a decentralized atmosphere and try
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and combine it all together to make a central
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location for disseminating information (like having
|
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all these zines on the fc list), you're jsut piling
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shit on top of shit. if only information were a
|
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true commodity...... then this wouldn't be a problem
|
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in our self-oriented world .....
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i really do worry about the possible end results of
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the meta-* and surf-* approaches to e-information.
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I think Surfpunks was, for some/most of us,
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initially viewed as like this harmless neat
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e-zine... but, i dunno now....it's dangerous...and a
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lot of e-punks and info-punks see that word and
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cheer, which i think is ignorant... surfpunks is
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groovy and all...but...
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here's a pretty easy analogy....there's a 7-11 on
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every street corner....what in the fucking good is
|
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building a mega-7-11 in the middle of iowa, kansas,
|
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colorado, whatever? it's useless, so why waste
|
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resources on building that mega-7-11 when you could
|
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use them to build a regular 7-11 in africa, or
|
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wherever else there isn't one where people want
|
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one...
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