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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 93 19:43:27 PST
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Reply-To: <surfpunk@osc.versant.com>
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From: surfpunk@osc.versant.com (plorefcnprpbzchgvatpelcgbvzzbegnyvglargjbexfynvffrmsnver)
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To: surfpunk@osc.versant.com (SURFPUNK Technical Journal)
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Subject: [surfpunk-0054] clinton@white-house.gov.NOT, industry news
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Keywords: surfpunk, Jock Gill, spring project, Scott McNealy, NeXT
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| It's not that we're postmodernists;
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| it's that there is no more modern.
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| -- hakim
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When the virus went around that a Compu$erve account was being
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used to handle email for the White House, I decided to wait it out.
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I cannot vouch for the following either, but it seems far more plausible.
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Then a couple of articles from tabloids follow.
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--strick
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-- Important Information RE: E-Mail to the White House
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-- Sun Spring "has no AT&T code"
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-- McNealy "seeks Noorda'S support to @#!% NT and return USL to its roots"
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-- Job's Workstation Company Getting Out of Hardware, Will Focus On Software
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________________________________________________________________________
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________________________________________________________________________
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Source: cypherpunks and other places
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From: gordon linoff <gordon@Think.COM>
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 19:22:14 EST
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Subject: more about email to Clinton
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January 31, 1993
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Important Information RE: E-Mail to the White House
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Yesterday, I saw several postings related to the E-mail address
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for the White House. Along with a good number of others, I worked
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throughout the campaign as part of a network of E-mail volunteers
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for the Clinton campaign, so I can pass along some important
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information about that E-mail account. The account is actually the
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personal compuserve account of Jock Gill. Jock worked hard (along
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with a handful of programming volunteers, BBS operators, listserver
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maintainers, and computer sophisticates at places such as Marist
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College, MIT, San Francisco, Chicago, and elsewhere) during the
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campaign to put together an E-mail system for national campaigning.
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The system was later expanded to accommodate all three major
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Presidential campaigns. It was an innovative, highly successful
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effort and it played a huge role in getting campaign position
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statements out to a wide public. Things posted from that address
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found their way into the virtual reality as the messages got passed
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along many networks from their original posting. Several weeks
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before the Inauguration of President Clinton, Jeff Eller was
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appointed by the President-Elect to have overall charge of
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establishing something which has never existed--an interactive
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public access E-mail system into the White House and into other
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offices of the administration. Jock Gill was then hired by the
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administration to work under Jeff Eller. Currently, Jock Gill is
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working in an office located in the Old Executive Office Building
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across the street from the White House. At this point, he is
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working alone, without a staff. His current assignment is to use
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the E-mail system (as during the campaign) to issue official copies
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of White House statements, the texts of press briefings and press
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conferences, copies of Executive Orders and Presidential Memos, and
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the like to the virtual world of E-mail. Since the compuserve box
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is a regular personal mail box, it gets filled quickly, especially
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given the high volume of mail now beginning to arrive with the broad
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dissemination of his address. Those of you who have sent E-mail to
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that address may well have received an error message stating that
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the box is full. That's another way of saying it has been
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overwhelmed. Jock has asked those of us who have been part of the
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volunteer E-mail team to help him out while he works to get a good
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interactive system up and running. Basically, he has asked that
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everyone cooperate and not begin sending a barrage of E-mail to that
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compuserve address. The White House itself employs a large staff to
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handle snail mail. Actually, at this point in the development of
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the White House E-mail system, you will probably get your message
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through to the administration quicker through ordinary snail mail
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and telephone. Later, once the administration's E-mail team
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develops the system they want and need, E-mail contacts should
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became the easier route. All things in their time. Once the E-mail
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address was circulated together with the heading the "White House",
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everyone understandably believed a real system was up and running.
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Not quite yet.
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SUGGESTION: Use the compuserve address you have judiciously,
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reserving it for absolutely vital contacts. Until such time that a
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real public access White house E-mail system is operational,
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consider relying on the traditional means of contacting the
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administration. Given what they had to start with from the previous
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administration (scratch), I have every reason to expect that Jeff
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Eller and Jock Gill will work well--and as quickly as possible--to
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get an interactive system up and running. But it will take time and
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patience. We can all help them achieve that effort best if we
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refrain from acting as if that non-existent system were already in
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place. PLEASE HELP RELAY THIS CONTEXT AND SUGGESTION TO OTHER
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NETWORKS AND INDIVIDUALS. Thanks.
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Snail Mail Address and Phone Numbers -- White House
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White House Numbers:
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The President (202) 456-1414
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White House Comment Line (202) 456-1111
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(To register your opinion on an issue)
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When bill signed or vetoed (202) 456-2226
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Vice President (202) 456-2326
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(202) 456-7125
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Mailing Address:
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The White House
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1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
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Washington DC 20500
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------
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Jon Darling
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PITT/Johnstown -- January 31, 1993
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________________________________________________________________________
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Sun Spring "has no AT&T code"
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A source tells us that one of the reasons SunSoft Inc has been so
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discreet about Spring and Project DOE (Distributed Objects Everywhere)
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object-oriented stuff, is that it doesn't want Microsoft Corp to know
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too much. Be that as it may, our source notes that Spring has been
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written from scratch, is not Unix and owes nothing to AT&T's code.
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Therefore it would be royalty-free (UX No 421). (Which brings to mind
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notions of whether Sun will ever offer a cross-licence to Unix System
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Labs for some reason or another.) We're told it's good at garbage
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collecting, has builtin exception handling and strong type checking.
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It supposedly has a "real" remote procedure call system, "much better
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than Open Network Computing RPC," and can communicate within a machine
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or between machines. We're also told to say that it has "strong
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separation of the interface from the implementation." Sun's first
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problem will probably be getting Sun people themselves to use the
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stuff, the transition from C or even C++ to objects not being without
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its hazards as object people know.
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________________________________________________________________________
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McNealy "seeks Noorda'S support to @#!% NT and return USL to its roots"
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Sun Microsystems Inc president, Scott McNealy, has been talking to and
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having lunch with Ray Noorda lately, chewing over what's to become of
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Unix System Labs under Novell Inc. McNealy has a menu of things he'd
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like Noorda to do once he takes over. He says he told him: "fire
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everyone except one marketing guy, one order administrator and 200
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engineers. Stop all their silly marketing programmes. Focus on
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producing better and better source code. Cut source code prices to $5.
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Stay out of the binary business. Bundle NetWare into Unix." McNealy
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says this is also a "scenario to @#!% NT." He says Noorda's reply is "I
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don't own it yet." Asked about Sun's continued support of USL, McNealy
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said, "Sun is the only company that can engineer its way out of any
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operating system royalty in a year or two. HP can't. NCR can't. IBM
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can't. Nobody can. Ray understands that." The ideal time to make that
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kind of break would be as Sun shifts over to an object-oriented
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operating system, its next operating systems move, McNealy said. He
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allows, however, that it'll take six to nine months after the
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acquisition is complete to see which way the wind is blowing. "If we're
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not getting what we pay for with our royalties," he said, "then we'll
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make the make/buy decision." McNealy's henchman, Ed Zander, president
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of SunSoft, the Sun unit most jeopardised by the Novell/USL takeover,
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was acting more of the good cop last week when Unigram spoke with him.
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He uses words like "empathise" (because he did the Interactive deal),
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"supportive" and "optimistic" when talking about Novell or the USL
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deal. He says he has high hopes for unity finally and apparently
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thinks the industry might start coming together at the Unix
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International members meeting in New Orleans February 11-12 where some
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100 companies and 200 people will assemble. Zander seems to think it's
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going to close to an old-fashioned love-in.
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Job's Workstation Company Getting Out of Hardware, Will Focus On Software
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) _ Steve Jobs' Next Computer Inc., after several
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years of lukewarm response to its workstations, will stop making
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hardware and focus on its highly acclaimed software, according to a
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report published today.
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The company is negotiating to sell its hardware business to Canon Inc.,
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the San Francisco Chronicle reported. Canon, which has invested $165
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million in Next, owns 17.9 percent of the company and sells Next
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machines in Japan.
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As a result of the sale, Next will lay off about 300 of its 540
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employees, the Chronicle said.
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The move comes less than a month after privately-held Next announced
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that it achieved its first quarterly operating profit. Sales grew to
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$140 million last year from $127 million in 1991.
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The company, based in Redwood City, Calif., has said that it wants to
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go public. Analysts, however, said that given the latest developments,
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an initial public offering appears to be at least 18 months away.
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Jobs, who co-founded Apple Computer Inc. and started Next in 1985, was
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unavailable for comment, and a Next spokeswoman would neither confirm
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nor deny the company's plans, the Chronicle said.
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But sources close to Next said that Jobs will announce the move
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formally next Tuesday, the newspaper said.
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Canon would not comment yesterday. Another investor is former
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presidential candidate H. Ross Perot, who invested $20 million and
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holds 11 percent of Next. Perot was unavailable for comment yesterday,
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the Chronicle said. Jobs, who reportedly invested $200 million in Next,
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holds 46 percent of the company.
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Next got off to a rocky start with its workstations, introduced in
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October 1988. Industry analysts called the sleek black machines
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underpowered and overpriced.
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The company later introduced faster and less expensive models. But the
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machines still are more costly than competitors' models and are not
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compatible with personal computers or workstations from such companies
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as Apple, IBM and Sun Microsystems.
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Next shipped an estimated 69,300 workstations last year _
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compared with 217,000 by market leader Sun Microsystems _ according
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to International Data Corp., a market research concern in
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Framingham, Mass.
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But Next has been praised for its built-in NextStep software,
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considered technically superior to other programs on the market. With
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NextStep, makers of applications software _ programs that perform
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specific tasks like word processing _ can produce programs in less time
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than for other workstations or PCs.
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Many Next customers have bought the company's hardware because they
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want to take advantage of the company's software, which can be operated
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only on Next machines.
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The company has tried to use the strength of NextStep to sell its
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machines to companies that want to develop custom programs.
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Next, however, also has been working on software that will work on
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IBM-compatible personal computers. The company is expected to finish
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work on the program, NextStep 486, this summer, nearly a year after
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Jobs first promised it would be done.
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The company also is trying to negotiate an arrangement with
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Hewlett-Packard Co. in which it would modify NextStep to work with HP's
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workstations, the Chronicle said.
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The SURFPUNK Technical Journal is a dangerous multinational hacker zine
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originating near BARRNET in the fashionable western arm of the northern
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California matrix. Quantum Californians appear in one of two states,
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spin surf or spin punk. Undetected, we are both, or might be neither.
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________________________________________________________________________
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Send postings to <surfpunk@osc.versant.com>, subscription requests
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to <surfpunk-request@osc.versant.com>. MIME encouraged.
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Xanalogical archive access soon. CLINTON PZ on America Online???
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# From autopia@wixer.cactus.org Thu Feb 4 05:12:08 1993
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# Subject: white house email (fwd)
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# >From somewhere in the matrix, johnjmedway emananted the following:
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# I thought most foles would be at least vaguely interested in
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# this. A friend of mine sent me the info... could be useful at some
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# > From jmedway@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Wed Feb 3 20:24:33 1993
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# > Subject: white house email
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# > To: jagwire@wixer.cactus.org (Dan Zappone),
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# > resmith@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Rob Smith)
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# > One of my coworkers passed this out to all of us @ work.
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# > Spread el verbum.
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# >
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# > >> Subject: White House email address
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# > >> I thought you might find this interesting...
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# > >> ================= { Begin included text } ===============
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# > >>
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# > >> >
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# > >> > How's this for interesting?
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# > >> > We just got wind of it down here... :) Barbie
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# > >> > - --------
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# > >> >
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# > >> > President Clinton (The White House) = 75300.3115@Compuserve
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# > >> >
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# > >> > : Here's something you might find useful... President Clin
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# > >> > : address. (Obviously, he has people to screen it for him!
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# > >> > : just emailed this to me.
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# > >> > :
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# > >> > : >Posted-Date: 27 Jan 93 20:19:51 EST
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# > >> > : >Date: 27 Jan 93 20:19:51 EST
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# > >> > : >From: The White House <75300.3115@compuserve.com>
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# > >> > : >Subject: Re: Press Briefing, January 27, 1993
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# > >> > : > Thank you for your recent electronic mail message to th
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# > >> > : > House. As soon as practicable it will be sent to the a
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# > >> > : > office for consideration. You should receive a written
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# > >> > : > course. Unfortunately, we are not yet ready to respond
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# > >> > : > to your message by electronic mail. We appreciate your
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# > >> we
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# > >> > : > implement our new electronic systems.
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# > >> > : >
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# > >> > : > As you know, this is the first time in history that the
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# > >> > : > White House has been connected to the public through el
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# > >> > : > mail. We welcome your comments and suggestions for way
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# > >> improve
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# > >> > : > your Public Access E-mail program.
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# > >> > : >
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# > >> > : > Regards,
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# > >> > : > Jock Gill
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# > >> > : > Electronic Publishing
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# > >> > : > Public Access E-mail
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# > >> > : > The White House
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# > >> > : > Washington, D.C.
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# > >> > : >
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# > >> > : > 75300.3115@Compuserve.com
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# > >> > : > CLINTON PZ on America Online
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# > >> > : >
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# > >> > : > PS: If you did not include your U.S. mail return addres
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# > >> > : > message and you want a reply, please send your message
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# > >> > : > include that information.
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# > >> >
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# > >> > ------- End of Forwarded Message
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# --
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# __________________________________________________________________
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