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| "So you can decide for yourself.... |
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| Is it art or dangerous propaganda?" |
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| -- Public Enemy |
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The Andy Hawks Interview Issue
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October 12th, 1992
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| Cyberlicious <tm> | Editor: Blade X | Note to self: don't |
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| PO Box 4510 | bladex@wixer.cactus.org | forget to stick some |
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| Austin, TX 78765 | WWIV : 46@5285 | thing in this space l8r |
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INDEX
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Software Licensing Agreement
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Subscriber information
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Ediborial
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Re:view of Public Enemy
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Interview : Andy Hawks, FutureCulture List, by Jagwire X
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| THE GOLDEN RULE: He who has the gold makes the rules |
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| -- cynical proverb |
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|______________________________________________________|
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SOFTWARE LICENSING AGREEMENT
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Note: This is a non-standard distribution restriction, so please read
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carefully. Also, this notice replaces any and all previous statements.
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Please disregard said statements.
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This file may participate in resource sharing and resource retrieval in any
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electronic or mechanical storage system 24 hours a day. This shall include,
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but not be limited to ftp sites, mail servers, download transfer sections of
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or unknown.
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However, no CMC (computer-mediated-communication) may occur between the
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hours of 11:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. Central Standard Time. What this means is
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that you are denied permission to read this file between the designated
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prohibited time period.
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Since this is a somewhat unusual explanation, let me explain my reasoning.
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Lately I've been scraping against the idea of being *ACCESSED*, independent
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of any personal control. The thought of being accessed makes me feel
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uneasy, slightly sick to my stomach, and may account for this rash here on
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my right bicep. My adrenaline system has been pumping 12% over normal
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operating levels since the release of Scream Baby : The September 26, 1992
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issue, and there is no end in sight. Naturally, these physiological effects
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have a negative impact on my sleep patterns.
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If you are currently reading this file during the proscribed time zone, exit
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| He who controls the information runs the show |
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| -- Josef Goebbels |
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It is a shame to admit this, but we live in an imperfect world. There are
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I apologize for any inconvenience, but please wait for approximately 2,242
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A list of violators of the distribution restrictions will be compiled for
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Subsequent violations will result in the permanent removal from the Scream
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| "My mind is wide, my thoughts are narrow. Send me Scream Baby" |
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| -- Subscriber Kip Moore |
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|________________________________________________________________|
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SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION
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To be added as a Scream Baby subscriber, please send the following
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information to bladex@wixer.cactus.org. All information must be complete;
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all questions fully answered, or your subscription request will not be
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honored.
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Note: Because of the way my system displays the information, please make
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sure that your e-mail address is included in the BODY of the text. Thank
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you for your voluntary cooperation.
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ESSAY QUESTION:
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While walking on the campus of the University of Texas one Sunday, I found a
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cassette tape whose film had been torn and the entire cassette thrown/wrapped
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around a tree and the surrounding bushes. Curious, I picked it up.
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Side A: Sexual Therapy Session I
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Side B: What is Man? Mineral or Drug
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In 100-200 words, describe what you think was on this tape, who made it, and
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why would they rip it up and wrap it around a tree?
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INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT :
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"I have read the software licensing agreement and promise to abide by any
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restrictions on distribution that may apply, as determined by the
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publisher"
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Again, both the essay question and restriction agreement statement must be
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fully completed in order to be added to the Scream Baby subscriber list.
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Thank you for your voluntary co-operation.
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| "Computers, video, fax, radio, printing presses, synthesizers, fax |
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| machines, | tape recorders, photocopiers -- these things make good |
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| toys but terrible ADDICTIONS" |
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| Hakim Bey, as quoted in the review of Talking Raven Vol II #1, |
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| in Issue 9 of bOING-bOING, page 52. |
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EDIBORIAL #2 in a series of "a whole lot"
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There were several times where I attempted to go back and re-read The
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September 26, 1992 issue. I failed miserably each time, never even getting
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past the header. This has to be the most hideous thing created in the history
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of electronic publishing. What the hell was I thinking? Hopefully the header
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for *this* issue is more polcritudinous. <1>
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[Knowing that there are at least three (3) factual errors,
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not to mention the dozen or so errors in judgement,
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doesn't help much either.]
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Perhaps I should have, knowing that I would attend the bOING-bOING suite party
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held at the Armadillocon. Several staff members [<waves at them>] personally
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thanked me for the positive re:view in the last issue of Scream Baby, when,
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quite frankly, I have no idea what I wrote.
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Beyond "go buy it", that is. If you haven't done so, shame! shame! shame!
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I may expand later on the "Armadillocon Schmooze News", but the key thing for
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you to know now is that a film crew from Entertainment Tonight interviewed
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Sterling for his book, The Hacker Crackdown. Allegedly it will air on
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Saturday, October 17th, so get those VCRs a-humming. Keep an eyeball peeled
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for footage of Bruce Sterling's animated QuickTime head, one of the most
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popular items at the EFF-Austin information table.
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Speaking of the future, let me ramble about Scream Baby. What do I want?
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Besides world peace <2>, a sexy Mexican maid <3>, and someone to use their
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fucking brains around here <4>, I want a really good all-encompassing-sub-
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culture zine. Music, literature, art, television, film, weird space-time
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kinks, events, information, news, humor, interviews, and re:views of "Stuff I
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Think Is Cool."
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Not all at once, of course.
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Each issue of Scream Baby will come out whenever I can scrape together 25-30
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kilobytes of really good stuff. The bulk of this issue is an interview with
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Andy Hawks, maintainer of the FutureCulture FAQ <5> and mailing list. Jagwire
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X <6> conducted this interview in August and while it starts a little slow, as
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if each was asking the other to a high school dance or something, it really
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starts to sizzle. More than one person has mentioned that Scream Baby has
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more of a "personal feel" to it. They should enjoy this interview as well.
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[Last Final Note: one guest editor slot has
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been filled! Mike Wilk will be in charge of
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issue 23. A member of Space Art Studios, Mike
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creates experimental short films using
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camcorders. From what he tells me, their latest
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project involves re-creating the action
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adventure scenes from Terminator 2 : Judgement
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Day....with hamsters]
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Notes:
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<1> A subscriber called the first issue "polcritudinous". He claims it means
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"aesthetically pleasing", which is the definition I use here.
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<2> Ever notice that when politicians are asked what they want for Christmas
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they always answer "world peace"? Maybe someone should get in their face
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and ask daily.
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<3> Red Hot Chili Peppers, _Mother's Milk_
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<4> Negativland, _U2_
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<5> If you don't have a copy, go get one. [future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu]
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<6> Close personal friend of mine.
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<7> Yes, this is a hoze.
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| "The remote channel selector is democracy's most powerful weapon." |
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| Walter Alter, "The List of Re-Calibrations" |
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| Spring 1992 issue of FAD p. 45 |
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Public Enemy, Greatest Misses
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The latest Public Enemy EP, consists of six new songs and six re-mixes [by DJs
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other than Terminator X] of previously released material. What is most
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striking about these six news songs is that they are the most *ACCESSIBLE* of
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any previous release. The music is much less aurally threatening, much less
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of a sonic assault, much more of a pop-meme-meister creation than previous
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Public Enemy efforts. It's also a Top 10 Retail Album as I write this and
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should continue to be a popular effort, especially in view of the publicity
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garnered from being the opening slot on U2's Achtung Baby.
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The re-mixes don't deserve much mention. The best I can say about them is
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that they made me remember Anthrax's cover of Bring the Noize. I dug
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*that* tape out and listened to it 10 or 15 times.
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But it did give me an idea. In deference to the B side of _Greatest
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Misses_, I want to "re-mix" some of my old writings. I've selected about
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four or five articles, that deserve a shot. If you want in on this, let me
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know. First come, first served.
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How do you re-mix an article? I'll tell ya when I'm done.
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| "It's a thought I have quite frequently, actually. You know, when you're |
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| walking down the street and you feel everybody is against you. You |
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| haven't got a friend in the world. You feel ill, you can't walk at the |
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| speed you want to walk, and for a split second you think, "God, it would |
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| be so much easier if I just pulled out rifle [sic] and starting [sic] |
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| blowing these people out of my way." |
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| guitarist/vocalist Mat Flint, from Revolver, quoted in Alternative Press,|
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| page 21 October 1992 issue. |
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Looking to the Future
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An interview with Hawkeye, creator
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of the FutureCulture File
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by Jagwire X
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(jagwire@wixer.cactus.org)
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What follows is an online chat interview with Andy Hawks (Hawkeye).
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If you haven't figured it out by now, he is responsible for the
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Future_Culture Mailing list on USEnet and the Future_Culture FAQ that goes
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along with it.
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[send requests for subscription to future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu]
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When Blade first asked me to do this interview I was a bit wary as I
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didn't get a positive impression from some of Andy's posts on USEnet. I
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decided to do it anyway and try to find out more about what Andy thinks of
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the 'New Edge'.
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I had a great time chatting with Andy and hopefully the interview
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will reflect his thoughts on the 'New Edge'.
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These bits of info were snagged off of the User Registry on my own
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board, the CyberSpace Institute.
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[Phone # : (512) 469-0447]
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Information on Hawkeye :
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What other aliases do you have? : none
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What is your gender? : Male
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About how old are you? : 18
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What's your sign? : Virgo
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What kinds of music do you like best? : Techno/Industrial
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What's your favorite color? : Blue
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If you were a tree, what kind would you be? : Dying slowly, tormented by the
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solemn silence in knowing my
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existence.
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What do you do for a living? : hang around
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Describe physical appearance. : 5' 10" brown hair thin luke-perry-esque-
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sideburns blue-eyes
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Describe your mental attitude : individualistic existential free-thinking
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post-modernistic
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What BBS's do you call? : my own (TKB: 303.438.1481) MindVox, Pentavia, hang
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on the INTERnet
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What are your interests? : writing, philosophizing, poetry, technoculture/new-
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edge, cyberpunk
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Chat Mode begin
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JAGWIRE X > You there? got time for a chat?
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ANDY HAWKS > Umm, yeah, I guess....Sure- if you wanna do the interview
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thing now, that'd be cool....I didn't have to work tonight so I didn't
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crash out early and have time to mess around...
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JX > Cool..man you type fast. Lessee... I didn't figure on you calling so
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as usual I am unprepared to do an interview but as usual I guess I can wing
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it. I'm terrible about these things.
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AH > Hehehe, that's cool....If you want, you could just go ahead and e-mail
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me like you planned, if it's easier on you....If you e-mail me, I might be
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able to give some thoughtful responses rather than whatever-comes-to-mind
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BS that I might give you now....
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JX > Hmm... I guess I'll do that. Seems strange to do an interview via E-
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mail Whatever. I enjoyed your Future-Culture thang quite a bit. Why did
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you decide to do that?
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AH > Hehehehe...is this the interview?? :)....Well, I decided just got
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bored and frustrated with the mass media...It seemed to be just
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barely keeping with the times, let alone have any sense of direction
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towards the future....The only publications really worth reading these days
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seems to be things like Mondo, Intertek, umm, SF Eye, and a bunch of other
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underground 'zines...Other than that it's mostly bullshit, so what I wanted
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to do was to combine what I saw as the "technoculture edge" into one
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resource-guide, where people could find out what resources carry the sort
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of information they might be interested in...It caters to that new-edge /
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cyberpunk / technoculture crowd, ....(whatever-comes-to-mind BS example #1
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:)
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JX > Great! I know Blade X is gonna have a cow when he sees the end result
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of this thing, but that's what he get for asking me to do an interview. So
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I guess I should ask you what you do and who are in meat reality.
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AH > "Meat reality"...that's interesting...Don't know if there is such a
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thing....Well, (wait- hold on -the lights in my room just got real dim and
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I can't see)...Ok...Sorry bout that...Can't type in the dark...I'm 18
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years old, a high school student (senior for the second time in a
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row)...Umm, I consider myself a poet (written about 300 poems and trying
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to get some of them published however I can)....I like to consider myself
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an existentialist...Like, whenever I'm talking to someone, I may be
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talking to them on some level like "dude, let's go hang out tonight", but
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in my mind I'm always thinking about the nature of reality and shit like
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that...Right now I'm into going to raves - techno music, ecstasy, and the
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whole scene....And, I'm always into the latest technology, and futuristic
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(or actually near-futuristic) literature and shit like cyberpunk....
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JX > I see that we are actually very similar in a lot of ways. Do you
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think that the luke-perryesque side sideburns are a fashion trend? Curious
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because I too have them.
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AH > Hehehe...I dunno...I don't watch the show anymore, although I do
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sometimes when I have nuthin else to do...I heard on MTV or something that
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he's shaving them off....I dunno personally got tired of that no sideburns
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look that seemed to be around for a few years, so I just started keepin'
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'em when I heard about 90210 and all that junk....I thought 'cool', I can
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grow 'em back now...:) :)
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JX > I've noticed that when I am on INTERnet and looking through the sub
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echos I like that there seems to be a whole lot of 'arguing' and very
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little creative discussion. In fact it disturbs me. I think of INTERnet
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as a place in which ideas can be tossed about and expanded upon but I find
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that there is a lot of belittlement going on (people saying I'm right and
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you wrong etc.) Do you think this is true or am I missing something?
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AH > No, you're right on target...This has bothered me since day one of
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being on the net...It's like, everything you post to a newsgroup, someone
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feels compelled to post the opposite just for the sake of keeping with the
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political structure on the INTERnet (USEnet, actually)...I remember Bruce
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Sterling once said in an interview that his main problem with USEnet is the
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people are so damn uptight...I couldn't agree more, and it's sad to see
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since the majority of sites are universities which are supposed to be places
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where free-thinking abounds, but it sure as hell doesn't on USEnet...Everybody
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conforms or non-conforms in keeping with the "unwritten laws of USEnet"...I
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often find myself falling into the same trap, just because it's the only way
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you can communicate with these USEnet addicts who've been on the net for a
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decade and it's like the discussion has to be their way or no way...It bothers
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me a lot, too...That's what's great about BBSes - for the most part, the
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"real" BBSes seem to be immune to that conformity and bitching and shit...
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JX > Yeop. That sums it up pretty much. I have only posted a few messages
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to USEnet and one of the replies I got back was from you. (Hey double
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speak)... And it was (I thought) rather confrontational. At first I was
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really pissed but then I thought... because I really liked and respected
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your FutureCulture Article(?) FAQ(?) whatever it is, anyway I was kinda put
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off by you. I decided though that that was probably not the attitude I
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wanted to but into and just let it pass. I think that the same problem
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that plagues USEnet also is inherent in the "New Edge" movement (whatever
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that is). I feel it lacks direction. I myself try to give direction to
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it, not control, but expand upon things and not to criticize. Have you had
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a similar experience?
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AH > Well, with my mailing list on the net, yeah, I've had a lot of similar
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experiences. I get mail all the time saying what a dick I am for how I
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interpret things, and, when I post a message about, like, "cyberpunk
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culture" or something, people treat it as if it's law...And that's
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certainly not my intent, I mean, I really in the end know just about as
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much as everyone else, so, it's like, who really knows what is true and
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what isn't, so who really has the right to control where a movement is
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going, for example....I know I've been accused so often of trying to
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control some section of "new edge" or "technoculture" or "cyberpunk" (I
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throw the terms around a lot in the hopes that people will realize just how
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futile such terms really are in the end) and, it's like, "well, I'm sorry
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that you see that I'm trying to control the direction of this, but please
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understand that my opinions are no more or no less valid than yours"...
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Everybody's got opinions on where this thing ("new edge") is going, and the
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scary thing is that everybody's got an opinion but nobody seems to be
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really taking any action on it...I think once the technology that the new
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edgers are into (VR, fiber optiks, etc.) becomes more practical, then this
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will all make more sense, but as it stands right now new edge is so new,
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and so directionless, that it really is difficult to make any sense of
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it...BTW - sorry for pissing you off - I know that I piss a lot of people
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off, but, like I said before "it's just my opinion, everyone's got one, and
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in my mind no one person's is more or less important than anyone else's-
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they're all equally "....You should see the responses I get from
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alt.suicide.holiday -I try and defend suicide as, like, a personal choice,
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and people get really, really pissed and send me mail, and I just say 'hey,
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that's just my opinion, don't write it down as law"....
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JX > Whew. Lets see. Grade-A curmudgeon "Opinions are like assholes,
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everyone has one and they all stink." I see the New Edge as having a
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thousand directions and all of them moving at the speed of light. There's
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so much information out there and it is impossible to keep up. I rely on
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my 'network' to keep me informed much the same as a nest of ants works
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together and communicates. Perhaps I have a bit too much of a Learian
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aspect to my view of New Edge but it seems perfectly valid to me. Needs
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more quantum physics (like salt). Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle runs
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rampant in the movement. You can either tell how fast you are moving or
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where you are but the more you know one the less you know the other.
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AH > Hmm....That's pretty cool....And I liked your analogy about the
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ants...That was really good-that's the one thing that networks are full of
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is information- whether it be a master's thesis or mindless dribble,
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there's tons of information on the networks and BBSes...Seems everyone is
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that has a modem is an info-holic of sorts....By 'Learian' you mean Timothy
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Leary, right?
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JX >Yeah, he and Robert A. Wilson pretty much turned my life upside down at
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the age of 14. In case you are wondering I'm 25 as of Thursday [Aug 6].
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Interestingly I was born on the anniversary of Hiroshima.
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AH > Woah...I wonder what that means....Hmm...I was born on the anniversary
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of the pardoning of Nixon....Anyway, happy birthday!!!.....Can't really
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sing to you, but, anyway, happy birthday....I haven't read much of Wilson
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(not much at all, actually- every time I'm in a bookstore a look through
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the Illuminatus Trilogy or that new book he has ..something 'reality
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something)....But, I'm a big fan of Leary as well....I think it's great
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that he's involved in the new edge shit...People may not like him or his
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beliefs, or the way he comes across, but at least he's a unique individual
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not afraid to voice his opinions...He always uses the word 'cybernaut', and
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always talks about cyberpunks are basically 'reality pilots', which I
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really think is true, and I place a lot of faith in that...Some people may
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think 'reality pilot' is just his new 'tune in turn on...' keyphrase, but I
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think it is an important phrase that'll have a lot of meaning in whatever
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the new edge becomes....
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JX > I couldn't agree more. I fact that's what the whole posting thing was
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about that I got pissed off with. More the other guy than you, I must
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say. Just goes to show how people manage to misunderstand each other. I
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feel that the majority of the people involved in the New Edge don't
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understand that we are creating the future now. And that we must be aware
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of what we are doing. It is as if they don't follow through with the
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cybernetic definition of intelligence (Receive, Integrate, Broadcast (I
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know that's kinda loose))
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AH > Yeah, the Integrate part certainly seems to be lacking in the
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movement...I agree with you completely about "we must be aware of what
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we're doing" - one prime example of this is Queen Mu from Mondo, who,
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basically, just seems to be one of those people who to me who just jumps on
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the latest bandwagon, prances around all over the culture like the US on
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some poor third-world nation, and then gets off (almost literally) the boat
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whenever she wants to....Her articles in Mondo (which in general doesn't
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seem to have much concern over the impact it has) are usually about
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teledildonics, or virtual-sex, and shit like that, and it's like, c'mon,
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whatever we're doing here is a whole lot more than that, please don't
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reduce it to virtual-sex!....I really get frustrated with that....One
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opposite example, in my mind, is Storming the Reality Studio...Larry
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McCaffery's excellent 'casebook' of cyberpunk and postmodern fiction-he
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brings up all these wonderful postmodern essays and equates them with c
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yberpunk literary and cultural a criticism, and puts it together in a very
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intelligent manner that attempts to make some sense of what cyberpunk is
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really all about, at a very basic aesthetic and substantive level....Really
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cool...
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JX > Yeah. I see that too. McCaffrey's book is very illuminating. My
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mind is hurling along at a million MPH. Any other comments you'd like to
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throw in that I haven't hit upon?
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AH > Umm, not really that I can think of now....I like rambling on about
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this type of shit...Oh, BTW, you mentioned you were a fan of Leary's, umm,
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are you on the Leri-L list???
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JX > Nope. Is it a USEnet maillist?
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AH > Yeah, it's a mailing list , in the way that mine is like..But, umm,
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the list is all about 'metaprogramming', which basically means 'piloting
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your own reality' (like Leary said)....they talk about Leary and Wilson a
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lot (as does the Extropians list, which is kinda similar I think)...But,
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anyway, the reason I mentioned it was because they talk about Leary, and
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also because they have these pretty cool 'net trips' every so often, where
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they get as many list-subscribers as they can to get dosed on acid and call
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the net while dosed, and they all send mail to each other and chat and shit
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while fried... It's really pretty cool....
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JX > Wow. sounds cool. I'll definitely check it out. You know I've been
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trying to get onto your maillist and yesterday I realized I was sending my
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request to the wrong net address. Duh. Wait. I remember. I was told the
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the idea of getting a self supporting off coast New Edge commune was being
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tossed around a while back and then sort of died out. Now that's an idea I
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really like. I would seriously like to get a high-tech self sufficient
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group out on the seas in like an oil tanker and where they canna do
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anything about it.
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AH > Haha, sounds real cool...Probably not too realistic, didn't Leary try
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something similar down in Mexico? I 'm not too up on Leary's history, but
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I remember reading something about that in ummm, shit, Storming Heaven or
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something like that - a book about acid...good book...But, yeah, anyway,
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that 'roving new edge commune' sounds pretty cool...I'd definitely sign up
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for it as well! I've always wanted to get my own island, like, off the
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coast of Washington or Oregon, and, kinda like, secede from the US and just
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make my own little, like, Plato's Academy with all my friends and shit,
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where there wouldn't be any laws or anything unless there really needed to
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be...
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JX > I am working on putting together a 'zine called SunDog. I understand
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that you too are publishing a 'zine. Tell me about that.
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AH > Well, it's called The Infinite Edge. The first issue, which is all
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I've done, is basically just a restructuring of the Future_Culture FAQ file
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into a magazine format... Umm, my intent with the magazine is to offer
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something more to what little of "new edge" focused magazines are out
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there....My hope is to make something like Mondo, but a little broader in
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scope, and a little more readable and intelligent in nature.
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Each issue is divided up into 11 categories:
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Genesys editorial/notes from me
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Listen! notes from the readers
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Moderns cultural observations and commentary
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Republic philosophical and political commentary
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Visions fiction and poetry
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CyberPlace life in cyberspace/what's new in modem-land
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Altered drugs and virtual reality
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Eyes magazine and book reviews
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Ears music
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Live on Tape movies and video
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Mobius closing words
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Right now, I'm working on the second issue...When I finish that one, and
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figure out how/where/who I can get to print this thing out in a magazine
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type format, I'm going to send people who're interested both issues, so
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they can have an idea of what my intent is with the thing....Hopefully,
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with all the great attention that my FutureCulture mailing list has gotten
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(Bruce Sterling, Tom Maddox, Steve Brown of SF Eye, St Jude of Mondo, the
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Ono-Sendai people, to name a few, have been pretty interested) I can use
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the people on the list and the net in general as a platform to get this
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thing going....
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Some articles I'm working on for the second issue include a commentary on
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the rave scene, cyberpunk culture - if it exists or not, a review of
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storming the reality studio, the possible futures of practical vr-tech, and
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hopefully I'll be able to print an article of mine that is going to be
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appearing in issue #8 of Mondo, entitled "there's a rave in cyberspace"
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which is all about the current state of the computer underground and new
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advancements like MindVox.
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AH > Well, I really enjoyed the conversation - don't get to talk about
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stuff like this everyday, and I'll be sure and call back sometime soon and
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check out the board!!!
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JX > Cool. Thanks. I enjoyed it much myself. Take care and I'll drop you
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e-mail soon. via con dios amigo.
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AH > later...!
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Chat mode over.
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