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| BIG BAD #1 | : [ Enter Text Processing Plant ] : | BIG BAD #1 |
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$$ $$ "TssT" "TssT" $$ $$ "TssT" "Tss$$ $$ "Tss$$ (tm)
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HOE E'ZINE #1050 : "What does it all mean?!#@^" ______ :
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"Big Bad #1" : ^..^ oink \9 :
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3/22/00 . HODGE-PODGE (oo) ___ / :
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... ...... ........: MIXED-UP WW WW :
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: EAT-SIT .
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: HOE HOE
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: he he he he 0 0
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: HOE . - BOO! ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho
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. ha ha ha ha ___
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: HOE HOE
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: HOE - Harpies Of Eumenides - HOE - Hurtful iOns Extrapolate
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A ROBOT CRIES:
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\ |___| / - SADNESS DOES NOT
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\_______________________/ \ COMPUTE
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NOW I KNOW WHAT IT
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MEANS TO CRY
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this is
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\ bl00d this is
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| dance floor bleeds bl00d motherfucker
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| this is hoe #1050
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\ 1050+ 4000 = HP LASERJET 4050
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| with 10baseT = HP LJ4050 N
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/|\ with tower = HP LJ4050T
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//||\\ ++ = HP LJ4050 TN
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mississippi river so deep and wide
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wide like BIG BAD #1: the file you now read
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I'M NOT THERE (1956): She said the to the fat man,
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"this is the best song ever written."
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but i can't see it; I can't see it:
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however
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I CAN SEE BIG BAD #1
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/**************************************
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* Wacky.C (c) 1993 NewVision Systems *
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* by Daver *
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* Call the Ministry of Knowledge *
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* [401] 943.3446 9600 baud *
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* Over 1000 textfiles! *
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* E-Mail Daver and say you got the # *
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* from Wacky.C ! *
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**************************************/
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/************************************************
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Just what the heck does this program do?
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Why! It converts whole textfiles into
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wacky text!
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tHiS iS aN eXaMpLe oF wAcKy TeXt!
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Wacky, isn't it? Well, run your text files
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through it, and it'll really annoy the hell
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out of people.
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Usage: wacky <infile >outfile
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Example: wacky <info.txt >info.wck
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would input from info.txt and make it really
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wacky in info.wck! Wacky, eh?
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You can view a file in wacky mode if you
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do a wacky <info.txt
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Wacky merely inputs from stdin and outputs to
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stdout, for you technical types.
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#include <stdio.h>
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#include <ctype.h>
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#include <string.h>
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char *eof,c[2],str[256]="";
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int len=0,i=0;
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main()
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{
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fprintf(stderr,"Wacky v1.0! (c) 1993 Daver/NewVision Systems\n");
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fprintf(stderr,"Usage: Wacky <infile >outfile\n");
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fprintf(stderr," or: Wacky <infile ;to display text\n");
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fprintf(stderr," Control-C to abort\n\n");
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do {
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eof=fgets(str,255,stdin);
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len=strlen(str);
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for(i=0;i<len;i++)
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{
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if (len%2==1)
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{ if (i%2==1) str[i]=tolower(str[i]);
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else str[i]=toupper(str[i]); }
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else
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{ if (i%2==1) str[i]=toupper(str[i]);
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else str[i]=tolower(str[i]); }
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}
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if (eof!=NULL) printf("%s",str);
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} while(eof!=NULL);
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}
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| | | | | | | WELL HEY GUYS I'M MOGEL THE EDITOR | | | | | | |
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| | | | | | | OKAY I'M JUST GONNA SAY HELLO HERE | | | | | | |
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| | | | | | | THERE'S A WORLD OF IDEAS OUT THERE | | | | | | |
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| | | | | | | THIS ISSUE HAS JUST A FEW OF THEM! | | | | | | |
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| | | | | | | HOE SAYS A BIG "YES" TO NEW FLAVOR | | | | | | |
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| | | | | | | DO NOT IGNORE THESE PRECIOUS GEMS! | | | | | | |
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| | | | | | | DO NOT LET THEM ROT, OK, THANK YOU | | | | | | |
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do you wanna feel this?
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::::::::::::::::::: OH MY EYES MY EYES! I CAN NOT SEEE E ::::::::::::::::::::
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:36:44 jpst
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From: A. Hidell <fr0ntman@hokkaido.com>
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To: mogel@hoe.nu
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Yo Mogel, just wanted to say thanx for keeping it real.. peace out.
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:11:23 PST
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From: mo . <mo_ykims@hotmail.com>
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To: mogel@hoe.nu
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Subject: bookshop myth
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hi mogel
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i thought id write a quick note, well its valentines day today or it was,
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and i got no cards, well not that i expected any but what the hell, i just
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felt i had to get that off my chest . Right i think well my thought is that
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u know all these films and stuff like push the fact that u might meet the
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man/woman of your dreams in a book shop, this is such a lie as if, have u
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ever been to a book shop im sure u have , well so have , not to look for
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men/women but to buy books and i see no one person fluttertin their eyes
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at me and fallin madly in love with me, no u know why cos they are so busy
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reading their books and wat not to absorbed in their lierary worlds to be
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concerned with the guy/girl stood next to them, well i reakon this is a
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conspiracy by the book makin/publishin folk of the big wig world and they do
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it to make us go look for romance , we find none and in our sullen state we
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buy a book instead, hey presto they have pumped out another book, kerching,
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even better , the person buying the book may not even want it but purchased
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it so as to impress the stunnin man/woman they desire...
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right nuff said, later
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p.s thanx for takin time out to read this.
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 02:48:25 -0800 (PST)
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From: Id Gene <Emksa@wowmail.com>
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To: hoe@hoe.nu
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Subject: I hate zine staffs because I will always be a loser.
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I hate you because it's so much easier and less painful than the truth,
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which is that I am jealous of you. I hate you because you have your
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tribe and the warmth of the campfire that goes with it. I hate you
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because you have the self-esteem and self-confidence to bring yourself up
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to level where you can attain the things you want and I never will. Most
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of all, I hate you because you have pride.
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You talk about how much you hate gen-x art fags sitting at their wannabe
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cool-kid elitist lunch table. You are an art fag. I am an art fag. We
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are art fags.
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I hate you because I hate myself. All I ever wanted was to sit at your
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table. For that I would have to catch your eye with some writing of
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content. I may be clever in my living room, but I will never write the
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content you feed on. I masturbate by thinking this is because I fell off
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a motorcycle as an infant. This is what I tell myself to avoid the pain
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of admitting that I am not creative or even reflective of the creative
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people around me.
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I tell myself I will kill you. I create a conversation in my head where
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I tell this to you. I have created many conversations like this over the
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years. I also ask you where you live to make my task easier. A part of
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me that is not a sadist intervenes saying that you shouldn't tell me. It
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knows I would never kill anyone on purpose, at least while some part of
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this mind lies uncorrupted. It knows the pain of failing to kill you
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while knowing where you live might corrupt some other sector, perhaps the
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one that says, "leave this situation, go build a new life that you can be
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happy in, this life will only bring you pain". It knows this would
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probably be bad. I know this would be very bad.
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Instead of thinking about killing you and everyone else who has wronged
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me by even breathing, I simply think of killing Brian Dennehy.
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I hate you because I hate myself. I'm crying out to you, "please publish
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me!". I hate myself even more than I hate Hollywood for making art fags
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hate Fight Club. I hate art fags. Someone has an "opinion", and every
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statement regarding whatever subject said art fag has ruined is taken as
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another piece of crap to be examined when toting up the pecking order
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points. I am not a unique and beautiful snow flake and neither are you.
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The shit you say to get attention is every bit as worthless as this shit
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that I am spouting right now. But I keep on typing anyway. This is why
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I hate myself. This is why I hate you.
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I started to forget what the hell I was talking about. So I read some of
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hoe-1000.txt. I chose the wrong part. Not much of the elitist crap that
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had inspired me earlier tonite. Now I just respect hoe writers that much
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more.
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It's 4:37 AM and I'm tired. It's time to beat off and go to sleep. Teen
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angst is like sugar. It revvs me up for a while, but it runs out and
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then I just want to slip into my bed. I hope I don't remember this when
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I wake up. I will be so ashamed.
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Thank you for being an audience,
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The Wayside Phantom
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From: Rhea <rhea@hoe.nu>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 6:40 PM
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To: mogel@hoe.nu
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Subject: (another) HOE submission
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This sentence is a little overwhelming!
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by Rhea
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I am not cold, but sometimes I hide under my warm woolen coat while shivers
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run up and down my back and arms and legs and my toes feel clammy; I am not
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tired, but sometimes my eyes feel heavy, sleepy, and they sag slowly,
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silently despite my fierce desire to keep them open because I want to see -
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don't I want to see? -- and I want to feel warm - but I'm not cold! - and
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alert and my wide-eyed blue eyes ought to stare passionately, intelligently,
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alertly because they never ever feel heavy because I'm not tired and there's
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too much to see to be tired; I am not sick, but I can't help breathing in
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and out, breath after breath after breath, so this feeling will never end --
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it will never end, no, this feeling will never end -- and my stomach doesn't
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feel queasy because I'm not sick -- it never feels queasy, no, my stomach
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never feels queasy -- even when my emotions sink down to the bottom heavily
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and I don't feel feverish but I'm not cold and I don't feel like letting my
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eyes feel heavy because I'm not sick; and I am not overwhelmed, because I'm
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not overwhelmingly cold or tired or sick while shivers run up and down my
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back and arms and legs and while my eyelids sag heavily or even because this
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feeling - breath after breath - will someday have to end - it all ends, even
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the queasy feeling that I don't have because I'll never have it if it ends,
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no, I'll never have it if it ends -- but if I am overwhelmed, the cause
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is simple: I am overwhelmed because I am!
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Letter to the Editor
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by: Anodyne
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a hand-delivered letter, handwritten, flowing script with even pressure,
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ball-point pen slightly yellowed unlined notepad paper, coffee ring upper
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right corner extending off the page, with about .65 of the circle's area
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on the page, dimensions of the sheet approximately 15x30 cm, sheet is
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extremely thin and flimsy
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To whom it may concern:
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What happened to the HOE I grew up with? You know, delivered
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daily by a uniformed high school student, proudly emblazoned with that
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hot pink acronym. HOE used to mean family. Now it means smut!
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You'll have to forgive my handwriting at this point, I'm getting a
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little agitated. Your editorial team is obviously composed of slack-jawed
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miscreants. Could it be that you gentlemen have lifted your long-standing
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injunction against hiring immigrants? By taking jobs away from hard-working
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Americans, you directly support the influence of non-European ancestry in
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the working class. I can smell Their taint on your pages.
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I wouldn't be so upset, except for the fact that we Christians have
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a little concept called Trust. The meaning of this word apparently escapes
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you, so I will make this brief. I trusted you to produce a publication
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worthy of my coffee table. When my friends come over for tea, I demand
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their complete satisfaction. Why is HOE no longer a staple of conscientious
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home decorating? My Trust is Violated.
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Furthermore, I am appalled that I once condoned this very publication
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to my grandchildren, in fond rememberance of your "Garden Glory" section
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that I had enjoyed for many years. Your tips on marigold cultivation were
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priceless. Now, you have words like "poop" and phrases like "spank me" in
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your pages. In trying to make the world safe for them, I am now forced to
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lump HOE in with DOOM, both subverters of my Vision for the Future.
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Thus far I have been able to protect them from Satan, and I intend
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to continue to do so indefinitely. I am terminating my subscription to
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HOE.
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Sincerely,
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{signature}
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Eleanor Roosevelt
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:00:06 EST
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From: Loquicious@aol.com
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To: hoe@hoe.nu
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Subject: HOE%20SUBMISSION
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Great website. I must thank the vagabond I believe you call UNRELATED for
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pointing me to it. After reading most everything here, I decided to send
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one for your amusement... perhaps you will find it interesting enough to
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use. Oh, if you do choose to use it, please us Sabazio as the authors
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name.
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Level 2
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the sadness weeps from me in oily rivers that churn bright paths down my
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skin. i know not its origin, perhaps i am sinking into apathetic decay
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after surfing endorphins for months. can you experience an endorphin crash?
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brain drain pain.
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carlos has reached into me and tugged at the yaqui deep inside, but his
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efforts are futile. my metaphysical self is only partially constructed,
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and my real self is a waste.
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i remember my solitary epiphany, and long for another.
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isn't one perfect moment of clarity enough for most people?
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my friend tommy once told me he was jealous of me for that vision. he
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would sell his soul for a moment like that. he tries much to hard.
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the spiritual side is the one we must rely on when times become confused,
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but mine is under construction. perhaps, reconstruction is more accurate.
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where is the blind faith of the christians when you need it?
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if there is one thing i regret in my life, it's being born with curiosity.
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if i had just been a normal kid with a normal life in a normal family.
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right now i could be the quintessential redneck.
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get up - go to work - go home - watch vanna whites boobs bounce - drink a
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budwiser - sleep. repeat until dead.
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i think i am finished with life, or at least this part of it, but i refuse
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to abdicate and move on towards the next level. if this were a game,
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perhaps i would be more excited.
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level 2
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find all of the power-ups, become enlightened, move on.
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i can recall very little of the more meaningful things in my past. i
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remember absolutely trivial and inane things, though. a bug watching me
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watch him as i followed his day. how very thoreau of me. anger hovers in
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the background, an angry wasp yearning to lash out with it's poison remarks
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and vicious perceptions. tomorrow i move into my new house. how fitting
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that it is as empty now as i feel. did i give up to much when i cleansed
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myself of my past? am i simply a vessel awaiting someone else's desires
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and direction? what do i take with me when i go?
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my shoes
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another pair of them.
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same as the last pair?
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I hope not.
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it is amazing that the blink of a cursor mocks me. it seems to laugh at
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my plight, knowing that i force onto the blank page all the emotion i have
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left. it seems to know that this is the last of who i was. i am so sick of
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trying to vomit words upon a page, but i can't seem to stop. i dry heave a
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letter at
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a time.
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complete with shudders and sweats.
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my muse is gone, or perhaps she is now real and has lost the power over me
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she once had. no longer am i compelled to spout profound verse in hopes of
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conveying the emotions that haunt me. she is my reality now. we start a new
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life together next week. my happiness is locked away in a closet, somewhere
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in the recesses of my cranium. i wish she were here to let it out.
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i am on hold.
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please don't hang up as your attempt to access your more joyous emotions is
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important to us, and we value your continued reliance upon our resources.
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your request will be handled by the next available neuron. thank you.
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perhaps i should be thinking of all the good things that will come in the
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future, or maybe the finer memories I have would serve to soothe me.
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i do not like being stuck in the present.
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i do not like it on a boat, i do not like it in a moat. i do not like it
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sam i am. narcissism is a fine art. if you like yourself, you can enjoy
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the solitary moments in life.
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so is it better to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune?
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i think sleeping is a better option.
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--->> sabazio <<---
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 09:02:38 GMT
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From: Big Daddy Bill <bigdaddybill1@hotmail.com>
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To: mogel@hoe.nu
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Subject: liar
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Unrelated is a liar in HOE #1013. I know John Hartman personally as a
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friend, and those turn of events never happened. I just thought you
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should know how much of a motherfucking liar he is. Have a good one!
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Date: 18 Dec 1999 23:23:00 -0800
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From: Doors <bobl@giantsfan.com>
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To: hoe@hoe.nu
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Subject: Submission for your consideration
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Cool Ezine. Decidedly strange.
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How's this? If you do use it please list my name as Mr. Mojo Risin', if
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you don't mind
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Hmm.
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Where's the ground?
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Where's the sky?
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Where's the horizon?
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Did I go somewhere?
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Where am I going?
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Where is everyone?
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What the hell is this?
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Is that a light?
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no wait it's not
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dammit I'm getting a migraine
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well shit where's the pills
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ah hell who cares
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I think I'm falling
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I can't see shit
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my dick tickles
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just like on a rollercoaster
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that means I'm falling
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wheee!
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Is that the ground?
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wow I guess it is
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Bye.
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This was born simply from boredom.
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I wonder why my friends cannot comprehend the value of a promise. I
|
|
turned 18 this weekend. It was very exciting although scary none-the-less.
|
|
I bought my first legal pack of cigarettes and I finally got off my ass and
|
|
got my liscense. Anyway, I realized that my friends can be inconsiderate
|
|
bastards at times. Like my friend Jeremy. Last April he moved to
|
|
Louisiana. I was upset that he was leaving, for no apparent reason, but I
|
|
had his solemn word that he would be back for my birthday. I believed him
|
|
because he has never missed my birthday, ever. I recieved a call from
|
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him around noon on the big day to tell me that he was indded not coming
|
|
home. His reasoning was "I hate Ohio, you know that." I wonder why, if
|
|
he cares so much, as he claims to, that he cannot endure this state for
|
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just one day. Shit, an hour would have been fine. I just wanted for him
|
|
to give me a hug and say happy birthday in person. Maybe hit up a
|
|
McDonalds and chat for a bit. Well, life goes on, right?
|
|
My best male friend missed my birthday too. But there is no excuse for
|
|
that. He lives 20 minutes away. It's bad enough he didn't come see me, let
|
|
alone the reason why he didn't. He wanted to have sex with some chick he
|
|
works with. How are you going to pass up your BEST FRIEND'S 18th BIRTHDAY
|
|
so you can get laid?? To top that all off, he still hasn't called even to
|
|
say happy belated. It's sad really.
|
|
My ex keeps calling. He is convinced that because I once loved him,
|
|
that I will continue to put up with his bullshit for who knows how long. He
|
|
has a gf and I continually remind him of that but I don't think he has yet
|
|
learned the value of a monogamous relationship. It's not even really
|
|
monogamy, it's trust. This girl trusts him not to fuck her over and not to
|
|
lie to her and that is all he does to her. I am tempted to call her and tell
|
|
her this but I doubt she would believe me. Why does love (lust) render
|
|
people blind? And where is the line between love and lust drawn? Did I
|
|
love him or did I simply lust the feeling of love, however I may have
|
|
misinterpretted it?
|
|
I wonder where the tradition of putting up Christmas trees originated?
|
|
Mine is fake so, though I don't know why the custom exists anyway, I think
|
|
it defeats the purpose.
|
|
I was walking downtown today and I saw several posters taped to light
|
|
poles which read, "Leave the Christ in Christmas, don't x him out for x-mas.
|
|
Sponsered by the Mystic Knights of the Ku Klux Klan" Wasn't Christ Jewish
|
|
or am I terribly mistaken? AHHH!!!! Damn hypocrites. *I think my New
|
|
Year's resolution will be to quit cussing.*
|
|
I have a Physics test tomorrow so I suppose I should go attempt to
|
|
study for it. Attempt being the key word. I wonder why I ramble on so
|
|
about things no one cares about except I? I guess it doesn't matter. I
|
|
have vented and wondered and am satisfied. And my self satisfaction is all
|
|
I care about at this point in time.
|
|
Yeah!!!! I am finally 18!!!!! Anyhow, the physics book is screaming
|
|
my name so, until we meet again, good fight, good night.
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This text file was brought to you by: ~Angeldust~
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:05:26 GMT
|
|
From: weazell 666 <weazell666@hotmail.com>
|
|
To: mogel@hoe.nu
|
|
Subject: blah,blah,fukinblah.......
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|
look here im ZeLL AnD I Do want 2 know 1 thing. are u f/m?
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2. Age
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3.what town are u from?
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4.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$`~ARE U SINGLE~`?????(only if you are a F.)
|
|
(if you are a guy and)
|
|
(I find out your fukin)
|
|
(WITH MY HEAD-_-I WILL)
|
|
(FUK YoUR COMPUTER HARD!!!!!!)
|
|
Im 21 rok on
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|
later
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|
writeback
|
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have some FUKINFUNFUKIN!!!!!!!@!~@!@$#%&
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 01:29:43 -0500
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From: dayna <thunder@tnn.net>
|
|
To: hoe@hoe.nu
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|
Subject: HOE SUBMISSION
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|
|
|
i figured i would take a shot at this and if i get rejected well..shit
|
|
happens right? surely i can rant on..and i've got enough on my mind
|
|
right now to probably write a book.
|
|
|
|
have you ever met that one person in life whose mere existance is
|
|
obviously some cruel joke from god (or someone) just for you to view?
|
|
there's this one female who completely amazes me that she has made it
|
|
this far in life. not saying she is stupid but she does like "acting"
|
|
the part when the time seems fit. like when some guy comes near she
|
|
automatically loses about half of her brain cells and has been heard a
|
|
few times actually giggling so much she snorts. okay by now i am sure
|
|
you can see how revolting this can be to anyone that is somewhat
|
|
normal and has a brain with the ability to process thoughts (of any
|
|
kind).
|
|
|
|
well the other day i happened upon my personal joke in disguise and
|
|
she of course didn't let me down. she at one point was someone i
|
|
considered an acquaintance however once i really got to know how
|
|
incredibly annoying and demeaning to the whole female species she was
|
|
i felt compelled to just voice my opinion. momma always said, "if you
|
|
don't have something nice to say well shut yer damn mouth child!" well
|
|
momma didn't warn me about females like this. so out it went.
|
|
everything that i could possibly say about how much better my
|
|
existence would be if she were nowhere in it. and amazingly enough she
|
|
was shocked by this news.
|
|
|
|
how is it possible for one female to crawl out from under a rock
|
|
daily to surface and annoy one and all. okay it's surely something
|
|
deeper than she acts ditzy. she is completely annoying in the aspect
|
|
that if someone does not pay full attention to her she resorts to
|
|
either throwing a temper tantrum (yes i have witnessed this) and or
|
|
going off on some self pity rant about how bad off she is. not to
|
|
mention she has on countless occassions mentioned how "oh i forgot to
|
|
eat today". oh puhlease! okay i may have forgotten where i placed my
|
|
keys before, forgotten someone's name, hell forgot my name, but eating
|
|
isn't something i think i have ever just "forgotten" to do. has anyone
|
|
aside from this chick?
|
|
|
|
upon thinking deeply about this situation i found myself wondering
|
|
if by some odd chance i wasn't just hormonal about this so i asked
|
|
around to see how others felt and well my results were interesting (to
|
|
say the least). of course most males were in "awe" of her however the
|
|
females found her not only annoying but most of them agreed how they
|
|
would enjoy watching her take a long walk off a short bridge. so maybe
|
|
it's females. are we really as catty as men think?
|
|
|
|
well if i'm catty then sue me. i don't even care. all i know is
|
|
that surely someone somewhere out there can totally relate and can
|
|
sympathize when i say that i really wish the aliens would just keep
|
|
her next time.
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|
dayna
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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 02:38:30 -0500
|
|
From: Paul Neri <quiksilver315@ids.net>
|
|
To: hoe@hoe.nu
|
|
Subject: HOE SUBMISSION
|
|
|
|
hey mogel, what happpend! where is the millenium issue? i hope you had a
|
|
good new years and partied harty. here is a submission for ya.
|
|
|
|
How stupid can one person be?
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|
|
|
A thought that is often over looked, because of the lack of time to
|
|
actually give a thorough definiton. During the course of any given day,
|
|
the average person (who has average intelligence), runs into approxamitely
|
|
3 stupid people. These "stupid" people do not include people who are
|
|
mentally handicapped, or have some sort of genuine excuse. And don't fuck
|
|
with me on that, my aunt had downs syndrome, I know the deal. The "stupid"
|
|
people are the ones who just don't think about what they are saying or
|
|
doing, not to mention the effects of their words or actions. I am sure
|
|
that this subject has been tackled in numerous rants, rages, deep thought
|
|
diaries, and probably on this very e-zine, but i feel the compelling need
|
|
to bring it up and give my opinion. Yes I know, "here is another one",
|
|
but please bear with me, you may find it interesting, if not, well, piss
|
|
on you!
|
|
|
|
The average person has an IQ of about 125-135 (if i remember correctly if
|
|
not tell me). We will give an average person a name, say, Pat. Pat is
|
|
self-sufficient by the norm, can funtion in a society, maintains a job,
|
|
cares for some loved one, if not a multiple of loved ones, ie. children,
|
|
and has a good self-esteem. Pat works, has a couple of kids, dog, good
|
|
paying job, lives comfortably, and enjoys life. If you can't imagine the
|
|
kind of person I am describing, you are a moron. stop now. shut your
|
|
computer off. find dictionary, DO NOT OPEN! repeatedly bash forehead with
|
|
dictionary. if pain results, find pliers, preferably vice grips, grasp
|
|
testicle or nipple and squuueeeezzzzzze. if pain persists, you may come
|
|
back to computer only after bathing in isopropyl alcohol.
|
|
|
|
Then there is your average "stupid person" lets name him Conrad. Conrad
|
|
lived with his parents until a year ago, when they finally kicked him out.
|
|
He now lives in a pit of filth in a house with some other people. He has
|
|
no money and what he does have he spends on rent and beer. *there is
|
|
nothing wrong with spending money on beer, but use caution, food may be
|
|
necessary after drinking beer, believe me, its a bitch* Conrad was able to
|
|
graduate high school, has minimal intelligence, functions poorly in
|
|
society and has no loved ones to care for. If you do not imagine this,
|
|
well, i won't put you through the pain again.
|
|
|
|
If Derek and Conrad were to run into each other Derek would just ignore
|
|
Conrad and continue on with life. Conrad wouldn't remember what happened,
|
|
and the world would be fine. Here is the problem though. As all this is
|
|
happening another "Derek" named Jim, has to explain to Kevin, a person
|
|
unique to this story, about what he is doing.
|
|
|
|
Kevin is close in intelect and ability as Jim, unfortunately, Kevin is so
|
|
stubborn that nothing gets through to the brain for processing. Kevin has
|
|
difficulty with foot-floor concentration, otherwise known as walking, and
|
|
visual perception, seeing things.
|
|
|
|
example:
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|
|
|
Jim and Kevin work at a resturant. Jim is a prep cook and Kevin
|
|
is a maintence man. Jim is slicing mushrooms from a large box with a
|
|
large container of cut mushrooms next to him. Kevin walks up Jim and
|
|
asks "whatcha doin?" *note: Kevin has previously shown signs of negative
|
|
intelligence. Jim responds "peeling grapes, what do you think I am
|
|
doing?". Kevin's reply you ask, "oh...i wasn't sure". moron? yes.
|
|
|
|
example2:
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|
|
|
Jim tells Kevin to remove ice from the doorjam of a large walk-in
|
|
freezer at the resturant. Kevin is amazingly sucessful in this mission.
|
|
Jim tells Kevin to remove ice chips and chunks from floor of freezer to
|
|
prevent an icy floor and someone falling. Kevin says "yeah i did that".
|
|
Jim is impresed and returns to mushrooms. Later, while walking into
|
|
freezer, Jim slips on ice. Jim asks Kevin for an excuse, which is " i
|
|
didn't want to go in there, its too cold." fucking idiot? definately.
|
|
|
|
In conclusion; It is not always the "Derek" that causes stress, but the
|
|
"Kevin". Dealing with poverty and other large issues are seemingly
|
|
minute compared to dealing with intelligent people with no common sense.
|
|
|
|
* luckily Kevin had a cracked rib that day, so Jim was able to punish
|
|
Kevin by simply flicking the cracked rib with his middle finger.
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|
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|
- Trimmerhead
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|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
|
From: PassinEH
|
|
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 9:48 PM
|
|
To: Students
|
|
Subject: Lost Items PLEASE READ
|
|
|
|
Student Body of Westminster College-
|
|
Unfortunately I have misplaced a couple of very personal items. First of
|
|
all, I am missing my Black Sabbath t-shirt that I bought at a 1986 concert
|
|
in Philadelphia. Also, I am missing a very large and valuable collection
|
|
of Pokemon cards, along with magic cards I like to impress my friends
|
|
with. I know every trick in the book dogg. If you have any information
|
|
regarding these items, please call ext. 5073.
|
|
|
|
Help me out peeps,
|
|
Rusty Passini
|
|
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[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
|
TITLE: On Our Turpentine Farm
|
|
AUTHOR: Isaac Avalos
|
|
DATE: 1999.09.27 12.31.20
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|
|
|
+woooh there
|
|
-what matter, you fool
|
|
+hack up there, hack up there fig
|
|
+you hear me
|
|
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+Weeeelll, the work ain't hard
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+-and the weather is warm
|
|
|
|
+drove our mule to the water trough
|
|
+wouldn't drink, and he wouldn't back off
|
|
+with turpentine, we stroked him good
|
|
+drunk all the water in our neighborhood
|
|
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+Weeeelll, the work ain't hard
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+-and the weather is warm
|
|
|
|
+the hogs wouldn't grunt, and the cows wouldn't moo
|
|
+tried to think, what in the world to do
|
|
+we gave them some turpentine, to make them so
|
|
+dog'arn fools come back for more
|
|
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+Weeeelll, the work ain't hard
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+-and the weather is warm
|
|
|
|
+the horse we had done seen his best
|
|
+walk four blocks and he sit down to rest
|
|
+sit down one day in some turpentine
|
|
+now the poor horse, he done lost his mind
|
|
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+Weeeelll, the work ain't hard
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+-and the weather is warm
|
|
|
|
+we had old dog, so dog'arn mean
|
|
+worst ol' dog we ever had seen
|
|
+we fixed him up, out in d'-wood-shed
|
|
+now when we call him, he goes under d' bed
|
|
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+Weeeelll, the work ain't hard
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+-and the weather is warm
|
|
|
|
+our boss man is a lazy hound
|
|
+chew'es tobacco; spits on the ground
|
|
+smokes his pipe, and lays in the shade
|
|
+lazyest man that ever was laid
|
|
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+On our turpentine farm
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+Weeeelll, the work ain't hard
|
|
-mmmm hmmm
|
|
+-and the weather is warm
|
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[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
|
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:45:33 -0500
|
|
From: budzekkj@notes.udayton.edu
|
|
To: hoe@hoe.nu
|
|
Subject: HOE SUBMISSION
|
|
|
|
procrastination reacts with freezing temperatures yielding.. hoe submission
|
|
blurted out uncontrollably by liberty
|
|
|
|
Ahh. The sound of silence. Well, silence plus the fans in the thirty-some
|
|
computers in this lab. and the sounds of the keys on this particular
|
|
keyboard. and the occasional growl from my stomach telling me that even
|
|
though my medication is an appetite suppressant, it needs food eventually.
|
|
and every so often a sniff from me as i attempt not to goo up the lab's
|
|
keyboards with my snot that, even though it's below 30 in the lab and i'm
|
|
typing with gloves and a scarf on, goes to show the freezing temperature
|
|
of snot is something like negative forty because it isnt even
|
|
crystallizing. granted, the tip of my nose is numb so i can't feel the
|
|
still-not-frozen snot drip out of my nostril and don't even notice it
|
|
until it splats onto the keyboard, just missing my purple, numb fingers.
|
|
sure, i'm typing with gloves, but they're one-size-fits-none magic gloves
|
|
bought for a dollar at walgreens with the fingers cut off so i can
|
|
function. function meaning type, pick my nose, and smoke.. all with my
|
|
gloves on. the only problem is that my fingers get cold, making me wonder
|
|
why i have gloves on at all. sure, my palms are toasty, but how cold do
|
|
they ever get? i never remember complaining about cold palms, ever. and
|
|
that could be taken as a mildly amusing masturbastion joke were i male.
|
|
sigh, and yet another moment of masturbastion humor flies fleeting past me
|
|
due to my pesky ovaries. so i ask myself, why? why am i in this lab at
|
|
8:42 on a thursday night, typing away at an indifferent computer? and the
|
|
only possible explanation can be: because i have an engineering statics
|
|
test tomorrow that i am brutally unprepared for and studying will just
|
|
make me feel like a slacker for not having studied the same material a
|
|
week ago when we covered it in class instead of sleeping in someone's cold
|
|
basement. again with the cold. and my feet. my feet, miraculously, are
|
|
warm inside my $5 fluffyashell slippers that i bought yesterday at
|
|
meijers. she whose feet have never been warm in the history of creation,
|
|
has warm fluffy slippers and wears them everywhere, even though it makes
|
|
walking through snow somewhat difficult. and cold. cold i tell you. cold!!
|
|
ah, fuck off.
|
|
|
|
- - -
|
|
http://budzek.com budzekkj@notes.udayton.edu
|
|
http://www.geocities.com/lbtyblle/ AOL-IM: LbtyBelle
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
|
|
|
|
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:31:18 -0800
|
|
From: robino <robino1@hotmail.com>
|
|
To: hoe@hoe.nu
|
|
Subject: HOE SUBMISSION
|
|
|
|
as i was sitting by my window watching for the publisher's clearing house
|
|
man to come and give me the million dollars i won, a little bird flew to
|
|
my window sill and tweeted in my ear that you have been "wearing makeup
|
|
and dressing like a girl..." i told that bird to lay off the sauce and
|
|
quit drinking from mrs. jamison's bird bath because she spikes it with
|
|
canadian vodka and there's no way in a flaming homosexual asian
|
|
botanist's dream that you'd put on eyeliner but then again, i dont know
|
|
any flaming homosexual asian botanists...
|
|
|
|
By: The Great Robino
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
|
Why AnonGirl Stinks by AIDS
|
|
|
|
1. Refer to HOE #988 ("MORE THOUGHTS ON WHY I SMELL SO BAD"), in which
|
|
she blatantly steals my MARTIN LUTHER motif, first so brilliant
|
|
crafted in HOE #960 ("#ASCII OUTSIDER ART MANIFESTO".)
|
|
|
|
2. Refer to her inability to actually make 95 theses, rather suffering
|
|
with ten, showing her native inferiority to my AIDS style of banter.
|
|
|
|
3. Refer to her "chaffe dick" problem. There is no HOE about this. You'll
|
|
have to ask around.
|
|
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|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
"A Computer Game Idea I Had When I Was Twelve"
|
|
by Swiss Pope
|
|
|
|
Destroyer
|
|
---------
|
|
Dateline: 3027 A.D.
|
|
Scenario: After WWIII when the entire human race was wiped out except the
|
|
few scientists who were hidden in a bomb shelter until the
|
|
armageddon had ended.
|
|
|
|
The scientists left there underground abode after the skies turned
|
|
blue again. They came out of their shelter, and found everything in ruins.
|
|
Everything was destroyed. The trees, the water, the grass. A desolate
|
|
wasteland. Fortunately the scientists had a bit of knowledge saved from
|
|
the olden days. After 15 years of barely surviving, eating the very few
|
|
plants that weren't radiated and drinking out of a hidden spring of
|
|
unpolluted water. They scooped up all the nuclear radiation they could
|
|
(wearing their anti-rad suits) and created a huge radiation dump. The
|
|
scientists had children and their children learned to plant plants, scoop
|
|
radiation, and tell the difference between contaminated and clean water.
|
|
It was 3025. The scientists were doing experiments with their fusion
|
|
reactors and computers, and came up with a way to travel through the
|
|
space-time continuum. They had a plan. If they could wipe out entire human
|
|
civilization in the past, they would be able to breed their own race in
|
|
the past and avoid the ill-fated future. Using the radiation dump as fuel,
|
|
and building Destroyer units which were used in WWIII, though out-of-shape,
|
|
they sent you, a grandson to the Thunderdrome, their shelter under the
|
|
surface, to use the timepod and collect as many discoveries for
|
|
the betterment of society as possible.
|
|
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|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
"Ron Gonzales Makes the Trains Run on Time" by Nyarlathotep
|
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Gelato... YOM YOM!
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In addition to buses, the Silicon Valley mass transit organization,
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VTA, also runs electric trolleys known as the Lightrail. Until
|
|
recently the Lightrail system consisted of a long north-south leg that
|
|
covered the majority of San Jose. For those of you not in the know,
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San Jose is a rather large city, at least 12 miles from North to
|
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south, and populated by 850,000 people. It also fancies itself the
|
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"Capitol of the Silicon Valley."
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On December 20th, 1999 the brand new east-west leg of the lightrail
|
|
system came into operation. Ok, to be fair about a 2 mile segment of
|
|
it already existed, but has not been in service for at least the past
|
|
6 months, while the rest of the system was added. The new leg goes
|
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from the northern terminus of the north-south segment to downtown
|
|
mountain view, a distance of about 8 miles. Now, there was some
|
|
problem getting ticket machines for the stations on the new leg, so
|
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until February 17, 2000 the new leg is completely free. Now, with this
|
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background in place, I can tell my story.
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It was a bright and cheery sunday in January. The temperature was
|
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about 60 degrees, and we were on a quest. A quest to get the Italian
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treat known as gelato. Gelato is Italian style ice cream, which is
|
|
richer and creamier than the normal stuff you get. Our quest could
|
|
have only one final destination, Gelato Classico in downtown Mountain
|
|
View. And what better way to get there than the brand new Lightrail
|
|
system, which is 1/4 of a mile, as the crow flies from our
|
|
apartment. Or 3/4 of a mile as the person walks, due to pesky fences
|
|
and such. Regardless, we decided to take advantage of the free ride to
|
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experience something new.
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Of course, as we were walking towards the station, about 1 block a
|
|
away, a trolley came in the direction we wanted to go, so we would be
|
|
forced to wait for the next one. Not a big deal because, as I said,
|
|
it was sunny and warm. We sat at the station, and 15 minutes later the
|
|
next trolley came and we embarked on our trip. Overall the trip was an
|
|
uneventful 25 minutes. However, at one point the problem with taking
|
|
the Lightrail became appearant. The doors only stay open for something
|
|
like 15 seconds at most stops, and it is hard to predict exactly where
|
|
the train will stop. A couple of women just missed getting in to the
|
|
doors at one stop, and either the driver didn't see them, or didn't
|
|
care.
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|
Upon arrival to downtown Mountain View, we walked down Castro Street
|
|
to Gelato Classico. On a whim, we both got Bavarian Mint. It was very
|
|
good. After finishing our gelato we walked down the street a little,
|
|
and stopped at a book shop. At this point we decided to head home. We
|
|
luckily made it to the station (which is the western terminus) half a
|
|
minute before the trolley left, so we were able to hop aboard. The
|
|
ride back was also about 25 minutes long. Overall it was an ok
|
|
experience, although I am not so sure I would take the Lightrail just
|
|
to get Gelato again.
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[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
"Meditations on the Page Down Key"
|
|
by Mogel
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|
I bet you guys hit that key a lot, you jerks.
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[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
Title: isaac7
|
|
Author: Isaac Avalos
|
|
Date: 00.02.06
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|
what can I say.
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I have nothing to tell you.
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Go away.
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|
|
what can I say.
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|
you know it all.
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|
like the baby knows it all.
|
|
thats why babies dont pay attention to me.
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|
|
what can I say.
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|
quit looking at me.
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|
quit looking seriously.
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|
quit looking over here.
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quit looking over where I am.
|
|
quit looking here.
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|
quit looking.
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quit it.
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I shall take the head to water.
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|
momma, i shall be down.
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|
I am down soon in the water.
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|
I shall take the head.
|
|
ok.
|
|
keep looking away.
|
|
keep away.
|
|
your hair is soft gray.
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|
|
Random play.
|
|
TOday, I think, I will play, toDay.
|
|
little yellow.
|
|
what is your name?
|
|
what do I call you?
|
|
yittle yellow.
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|
|
|
MrRoboto will save us.
|
|
MrRoboto is up in the sky.
|
|
MrRoboto is down in the ground.
|
|
MrRoboto doesn't mind if we take hella dump
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|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
BREAKFAST by Anodyne
|
|
|
|
Two boots were in the doorway and light became shadow. Fiercely
|
|
silhouetted against the sky, Jackson pushed forward and the room gave way.
|
|
A customer nearest the door looked up from his scrambled eggs. The guy
|
|
in the corner smiled into his cigarette. Sid's Place was happening today.
|
|
Jackson's eyes never strayed from the waitress's hips. Life alive
|
|
and hot heat. It was the greenness of the green hills and the vigorous
|
|
redness of his arteries. He ambled over to her, and thus undaunted in
|
|
the end she came to him.
|
|
"My name is Jackson. Knock off work for five minutes and have a
|
|
coffee and a smoke with me."
|
|
Her hands lept to the apron ties. Her second reply was, "Just in
|
|
time. I can go for a break, Jackson." She turned to the table she was
|
|
waiting on, then to him as they walked away. "I'm Melissa".
|
|
They went up to the counter, and at a gesture from Jackson
|
|
a pockmarked boy arrived and went to fetch the coffee. Melissa sighed
|
|
and sat. "This place is killing me", she groaned, reaching for a butt.
|
|
It was drawn from the pack quickly and it was at her lips faster.
|
|
Jackson had the match for it.
|
|
"Melissa... Melissa?!" A balding man swept around the corner,
|
|
perspiring. He huffed, "I need you to clean three tables. 14..17..19."
|
|
His finger indicated the direction.
|
|
Jackson rose and turned to face the balding man. His lips parted
|
|
and the silken syllables were the world. "Brother, the lady is on break
|
|
but you're not. Do it yourself."
|
|
"Who the fuck are you! I'm Sid?, don't you know?, the manager of
|
|
this place?, and I say? my tables get cleaned now by the lady here?
|
|
Melissa?" The balding man was livid. Almost.
|
|
Jackson looked, loved, into Melissa's eyes infinitely but it so
|
|
happened that she didn't even notice. So she sang out, "Sid, I quit!
|
|
I'm done! It's been wonderful!", tugging at Jackson's elbow. He
|
|
followed with that arm to her side. They parted together, leaving Sid
|
|
and the pockmarked boy looking at each other.
|
|
"Pour that fucking coffee out and go clean 14, 17, and 19, kiddo."
|
|
Melissa's mind soared in triumph but met turbulence. She
|
|
was missing something. "Wait...! How did you know I smoked?" Jackson
|
|
flung the exit wide and his nostrils flared and his eyes widened and he
|
|
stood in full view with his love.
|
|
"The right woman smokes."
|
|
The guy in the corner chuckled in spite of himself and scrubbed
|
|
out his cigarette.
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
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|
|
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:12:03 -0500
|
|
From: cjarni <cjarni@miesto.sk>
|
|
To: hoe@hoe.nu
|
|
Subject: ODE TO GASOLINE by hambone
|
|
|
|
Gasoline, you are the best.
|
|
Formed from combinations of liquid hydrocarbons, your molecules
|
|
emit a strong odor. Maybe "strong" is not the right word. Maybe
|
|
scintillating, mesmerizing, and wondrous would be more accurate words to
|
|
use.
|
|
But, gasoline, you are not normally treasured for your smell.
|
|
Sweet-smelling roses are often given to man's potential mates on
|
|
Valentine's Day, but these roses are not doused in gasoline despite your
|
|
sweet aroma. No, your everyday uses are much more mundane.
|
|
People use you to power their cars. Whether they drive a beat-up
|
|
old Dodge and fill it with your 87-octane variety, or a brand new Porsche
|
|
(which they will often fill with 93-octane or better), they all need you.
|
|
You are what makes the world go round (as well as the cars' wheels.) You
|
|
do all these things without complaint and have never once asked us to
|
|
unfetter you from your bond of servitude to us.
|
|
But let us no longer discuss these things, for they represent the
|
|
harsher side of the reality of the life of gasoline. Let us talk instead
|
|
of your true nature. For who among us has not seen the beatiful displays
|
|
of gasoline when spilled into a puddle of water? Stunning multicolored
|
|
displays caused by the refraction of light in the gasoline are especially
|
|
pleasing to stoners and acid freaks, but can be appreciated by anyone.
|
|
You are also highly flammable. Any list of your qualifications
|
|
for a job should not leave out this indispensable attribute. Fire is like
|
|
your long-lost brother who went to Africa 5 years ago and was never seen
|
|
again. Then, one day, he returns to your door, and although he is clad in
|
|
only a shredded, dirty toga caked with mud and shit, the simple fact that
|
|
he is alive sends you into ecstatic rapture.
|
|
His name is Jim.
|
|
This is why, when you come into contact with fire, we can see your
|
|
bliss as the rapidly expanding blaze engulfs us, the observers.
|
|
Once I made napalm. I submerged some styrofoam blocks into a tub
|
|
of you, gasoline, and you might say it was like love at first sight
|
|
because the chemistry really clicked between you two. In about 5,000
|
|
blinks of an eye the napalm was created, the prodigal son of your
|
|
marriage, and the family was destined to achieve great heights (of fire)
|
|
once we lit the napalm with the lighter. My friend (we'll call him 'Buck'
|
|
to preserve anonymity) burned off all the hair on his hand during this
|
|
act. But it was a proud wound that he wore, almost like a treasured
|
|
battle scar, for he had been burned by the glorious NAPALM, the enchanting
|
|
product of gasoline and the once-innocent styrofoam.
|
|
Gasoline, you are like a star that twinkles in the sky when all
|
|
the rest remain still. Is this twinkling caused perhaps by your making
|
|
everything blurry when your fumes hit my eyes? Or maybe it is caused by
|
|
the lack of oxygen to my brain when my lungs are busy holding in gas
|
|
vapors instead of pure air, as I struggle to retain consciousness.
|
|
Regardless, it is a beautiful thing, and you are blessed, blessed greater
|
|
than any to come before you, far greater than kerosene or so-called
|
|
"natural" gas, which pale in comparison to your unbelievable splendour.
|
|
Gasoline, you are the greatest.
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
|
|
|
|
subj: gross area: The Hands of Small Childredate: 07/22/97
|
|
from: Genius note: New user access time: 9:15am
|
|
to: All stat: [Normal] rep: 1 msg#: 2/4
|
|
|
|
Well nobody else has posted here so I think I willl post about something
|
|
that happend last night that was fucked up. OK well first of all me and
|
|
some of my friends were outside DQ just eating some ice cream when this
|
|
piece of shit car pulls up. It had this scrubby looking 40 year old man
|
|
in it and 2 girls maybe 14 or 15. One was ugly and the other was ok.
|
|
Anyway they get some food and get back in the car and just sit there.
|
|
Then they get back in and sit and eat.
|
|
|
|
And then they started acting real weird the ok one who was closet to the old
|
|
scrubby man started staring at us. So I waved just to mess with them cus
|
|
I mess with a lot of people. Then she starts laughing her head off for
|
|
no reason and wouldn't stop. All my friends thought this was pretty
|
|
strange. So then when they back out they hit a curb so we are all
|
|
laughing and yelling stuff and he yells something stupid like he got his
|
|
license at K-mart. Then were all laughing at him cus he is a retard.
|
|
Then he says the strangest thing that I've ever heard which is gross any
|
|
way you think about it. He said "You'd have trouble driving to if you
|
|
had a hand down your pants". I don't know if he was refering to the
|
|
girls or himself but they didn't look like sisters and he didn't look
|
|
like there dad.
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
|
|
|
|
Altrocks and The Gay Monkey
|
|
---------------------------
|
|
|
|
"Hi, I'm Altrocks."
|
|
"I don't care. I'm a gay monkey Now bend over !"
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
|
|
|
|
I'm Motherfucking Quarex, That's Why!
|
|
by Basehead
|
|
|
|
Fuck girls, man. FUCK THE BREASTED SEX. They have got these things on
|
|
their chest, that I don't.. or at least, they have slightly larger ones,
|
|
and that makes them special? WHAT THE FUCK EVER. I get mistaken for a
|
|
girl all the time, but no guys ever ogle me or ask me out. What is with
|
|
that? Why won't even pathetic guys ask me out? ANSWER ME THAT, WHORES.
|
|
If it has something to do with me watching wrestling all the time, then by
|
|
god, I don't need girls anyway because WRESTLING is the ONE THING that
|
|
keeps me from ENDING IT ALL.
|
|
|
|
Remember how I said in the beginning of one of my recent HOE files,
|
|
after referencing the Dudley Boyz, that it would be my last wrestling
|
|
reference? Why did I write that? I bet it was because some motherfucking
|
|
breasted beast told me wrestling was dumb and in case she was reading it I
|
|
didn't want to talk about wrestling! I'M SUCH AN IDIOT.
|
|
|
|
You know, girls aren't all that great. I mean they're so obviously
|
|
inferior in every way. I'll tell you this much: put me up against ANY OF
|
|
YOUR FUCKING VILLAGE'S GIRLS in the Caber Toss and we'll see who's
|
|
victorious. I can't help that I'm basically a roman god misincarnated as
|
|
a text-file writer. No, I can't help that. I can't help my locks that
|
|
flow like some Fabio-seque cover from a trashy romance novel. So tell me,
|
|
WHY DO ALL THESE FUCKING BEAVER-TOTING BIMBOS HATE ME FOR MY BEAUTY?
|
|
That's really the last explanation left. I'm obviously the very nicest
|
|
and best person God ever put on His green earth. Everything about me
|
|
reeks of importance, integrity, wit, intelligence, and virtue.
|
|
|
|
Well, I'm off to tonight's Vampire LARP where I will play a very
|
|
debonnaire Tremere and seduce every goth hottie that crosses my path.
|
|
|
|
And when I confront them and they query, "Why would I want you?"
|
|
|
|
I'll say... READ THE TITLE OF THIS FUCKING FILE, SLUT.
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
|
|
|
|
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:27:13 +0530
|
|
From: pravin <pravin.connection@wmi.co.in>
|
|
To: hoe@hoe.nu
|
|
Subject: HOE SUBMISSION:DISPATCHES FROM THE FRONT
|
|
|
|
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
|
##################
|
|
### #### ###
|
|
##################
|
|
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$%^yu****%
|
|
#$$$$$$$$$$$^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^&&&&&&&&&)))))))_________||||||||||++++++++++|_
|
|
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|
|
\|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||\\
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|
|
|
|
|
I am not sure if is the door through which you get a
|
|
glimpse of Heaven or Hell ;
|
|
For it is only in heaven or hell (if they do exist!?), that it is
|
|
possible to see such beauty,
|
|
and with such clarity ,dianond -like !
|
|
spurts of imagination,
|
|
we are the riders of the storm,
|
|
The "riders of the storms";
|
|
getting a high!
|
|
seeing a New Dawn
|
|
out here...........
|
|
it's Revolution baby,
|
|
so don't try to stop it!
|
|
|
|
The world seems like
|
|
a fancy dress ball.
|
|
only my mask had no eyes,
|
|
and the wine was blood.
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
|
|
|
|
"Dreaming" by Trimmerhead
|
|
|
|
Hmm. After reading all these amazing stories, articles and rants
|
|
on HOE I am sitting here thinking about some of it and realizing that I
|
|
tend to have these kind of conversations with myself as I work. On a
|
|
normal day I get up early drive by the beach to get a coffee, then go get
|
|
in a truck to cut lawns for a few hours. While cutting these lawns I ride
|
|
on a large, loud mower, and I have to wear earphones to prevent me from
|
|
going deaf. I have seen earphones with built in speakers so you can listen
|
|
to music but they are very expensive like $60. That's a little much for me.
|
|
Anyway, while riding around enjoying the monotonous sounds of the
|
|
engine and blades, I think. I sing to myself, I recall adventures and
|
|
remember girls that I went out with that I really shouldn't have gone out
|
|
with. I can think of these things and have full conversations with myself
|
|
about the most absurd things. Take today for example, I spent 20 minutes
|
|
trying to figure out who played the runaway bride in Smokey and the Bandit.
|
|
After remembering most of the funny parts and crashing into a fence
|
|
post I realized that it was Sally Field that played the part. Big whoop.
|
|
Well--here is the clincher--I can spend countless hours cutting and thinking
|
|
totally irrelevant thoughts but I can't cut and make a list of things I have
|
|
to do when I finish work at the same time. I get the first 2 or 3 things
|
|
and then realize that I have just cut the same strip about 31 times.
|
|
Why the fuck can't I do both? Its not that hard of a concept.
|
|
Think and work--do it all the time. But when I need to do it, can I? NO!
|
|
Try it sometime--you will be surprised, even when you are driving. You
|
|
can be listening to the radio singing a song and all of a sudden the next
|
|
thing you know you are at an airport 50 miles from where you should be
|
|
about to board a plane for Toledo. But here is the good part. You will
|
|
realize that you were just remembering the first time you got laid. Not
|
|
just the actual getting laid but the 3 years of liking a person and
|
|
finally hooking up with that person. Oh, and don't forget all the other
|
|
crap that happened during those 3 years.
|
|
The other day someone told me they had a dream that they lived an
|
|
entire life. Wow. That's a lot of dream world time for a 30 seconds of
|
|
actual dream time. (that's one of the weird facts that I know--you dream
|
|
for 30 seconds in the last 45 seconds of sleep before you wake up) I must
|
|
be dreaming.
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
|
|
|
|
Title: Bots are not evil - a response to aster
|
|
Author: Isaac Avalos
|
|
date: 02-02-00
|
|
|
|
bots are not evil. well, they are never very evil. they do not plan to
|
|
take over the world. if we were ever in their clutchs there would be a
|
|
turning back!!! we can stop them anytime!! if we don't stop them the
|
|
world world will be as we have always known it!!! they will not take over
|
|
and make us all slaves.
|
|
|
|
what is a bot. what is a slave. lets pretend to know things today what is
|
|
a signal? a signal is thing. when this thing changes we can say that the
|
|
signal is signalings, alive, active, acting, changed, changing, moving,
|
|
or firing. When we say the signal is active we are functioning. what is a
|
|
function? a function is a collection of signals. a function is anything
|
|
that generates a signal.
|
|
|
|
all things in the universe can we expressed as signals and functions.
|
|
when classifing functions and their signals we start with unary signals
|
|
|
|
'-' is a signal
|
|
'o' is a function
|
|
|
|
o non-being
|
|
o- birth
|
|
-o death
|
|
-o- transition
|
|
|
|
most functions are of the last type.
|
|
next we can classify by binary signals
|
|
'-' is a 0 signal
|
|
'+' is a 1 signal
|
|
|
|
o
|
|
o
|
|
--------------
|
|
o- type 0
|
|
o-
|
|
|
|
o+ type 1
|
|
o+
|
|
|
|
o- random birth
|
|
o+
|
|
--------------
|
|
-o
|
|
+o
|
|
--------------
|
|
-o-
|
|
+o+
|
|
|
|
-o+
|
|
+o-
|
|
--------------
|
|
|
|
there is no such thing as a random birth function.
|
|
but, how do we explain the existance of things?
|
|
you expect me to explain the existance of things!!!???
|
|
fine, I dont know! maybe there is such a thing as a random birth funtion.
|
|
|
|
anyways. using these terms to describe reality we see little difference
|
|
between bots and non-bots. it is all automata. automata is anything that
|
|
has a high degree of transition realitive to the observer's transition.
|
|
so now we see that bots are as much our friends as people are, and bots
|
|
are as evil as people are. bots are as much lesbians as people are. mmmm
|
|
lesbians. mmmm midgets.
|
|
|
|
[---------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -
|
|
|
|
Date: 10 Feb 2000 23:19:20 -0800
|
|
From: Doors <bobl@giantsfan.com>
|
|
To: hoe@hoe.nu
|
|
Subject: Hoe Submission
|
|
|
|
You stand there laughing as I write
|
|
like a hyena, tho you have no bite
|
|
the honeys all say you're a blast
|
|
well i got news, you're not the last
|
|
meet monday marry tuesday
|
|
gone wednesday dead thursday
|
|
this life you know it really sucks
|
|
sitting here typing like a schmuck
|
|
hell sure ain't no pie in the sky
|
|
but it's there I sit as life goes by
|
|
jocks all saying you're so fine
|
|
honeys singing gee he's fly!
|
|
swooning fawning kissing screwing
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moving spawning bitching sueing
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I hear you got your trophy wife
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think that makes me want your life?
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I don't need your fucking life
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I've got mine, it's not so trite
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why do I keep writing here?
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Am I depressed do I need beer?
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they say that you should be yourself
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they say that you should be unique
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they say you're gonna go to hell
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they say that you should aim for the peak
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climb the rope and ring the bell
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the rope is home for twisted freaks
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freaks with foes freaks with friends
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freaks who tell you this is the end
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say that you're their only friend
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tell you the only real freaks are the geeks
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those who spend life working to what they seek
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working? that's just insane, that's senile
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you should worry about matters more penile
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there's really no point in what I'm saying
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these are just words, don't think I'm praying
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there's no deeper meaning, no
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you thought your life meant something, oh?
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well I'd like to make it clear
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my amusement is why you're here
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Yeah, this sucks. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, I wrote it. If you want it,
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cool. If not, oh well.
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Mr. Mojo Risin'
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There are things known, and there are things unknown, and in between are
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the Doors -- http://home.inreach.com/jacks
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:50:01 -0500 (EST)
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From: Chris DeSarno <desarnoc@eden.rutgers.edu>
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To: mogel <mogel@hoe.nu>
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Subject: Re: "Letting You Go"
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Good sir Mogel,
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When I first heard about the post-h1k changes to Hogs of Entropy I
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went through a wide spectrum of emotions --
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from shock to outrage to pure hatred to hunger
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to frustration to a kind of emotional constipation
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to a very literal constipation to relief
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then back to shock
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and ultimately to simple horniness, for I have not had a good lay in
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a while. But this is all besides the point. The point is you've gone too
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far to find a point and that's why you've made the whole thing pointless.
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I laughed when people said, "The bastard's drunk on his own power, Chris.
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You've got to do something. He's all about some illusion of progression.
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He'll try to improve on a perfectly imperfect structure and in the process
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destroy it.
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King Kong killed his lover in the end ... but he still loved her."
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No, not Mogel, I said. You don't give him enough credit.
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He's tough as nails! It's just a phase. That's all. It'll pass.
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How wrong I was. How wrong I was . . .
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You had something special. Anyone, anywhere could be thrown into the
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ranks of a HOE writer and have people FUCKING READ their shit -- the
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gloriously imperfect, grammatically atrocious, SHIT that they wrote. God
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bless bulldada!@# What an extremely powerful concept. Sure sometimes you
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got stupid, long, pointless, angsty, stupid, bitchy, stupid,stupid,stupid
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material but there was beauty in the chaos and diversity and originality.
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Shit needs a medium too! And handing out the title of "writer" to anyone
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and everyone was a slap in the face to tradition conceptions of "good
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writing." Its style was its sheer lack of style. But somewhere along the
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lines someone figured they should be able to tell which shit doesn't
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stink (or which doesn't stink in an experimental way).
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HOE has now fallen victim to that infamous zine-disease "Quality Control"
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brought on by stupid value-judgments made by inflated egos. Someone had
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to think "Gee, some of this shit is 'experimental' and has real literary
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value and the rest is just effortless crap." Elitists!
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The writers that you have lost today made up the sticky semen which held
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together the fabric of a great thing.
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It is under these circumstances that I happily resign as a writer for HOE.
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*sniffle* *sniffle*
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love,
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mutter
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Welcome to The Obloid Sphere BBS Message Forum
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http://www.obloidsphere.com
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 124 of 262
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By: spirit Replies: 2
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To: MercY Subj: Re: uhm
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Date: 01/10/2000 09:06:40
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>> Soo uhh.. that was a nice email mogel sent, huh?
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Have you read the other stuff on the site? I think you should!
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My personal opinion is that now that mogel has personally shit on our
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community (no offense to the 2 or 3 decent writers he kept as you had no
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control over it) we should remove this base.
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His call to start a new zine is silly, because:
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a) we were doing that anyhow little by little
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b) we liked hoe because of the history and total inclusiveness of the zine
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c) he could have started another different ezine HIMSELF instead of
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maligning this one
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I highly doubt we will lose track of each other now that we found each
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other. Maybe one or two people will fade away like before. However, we
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will have to make the effort to do so w/o a common ground like hoe.
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To think I was proud of hoe. Now its become a pile of monkey crap.
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Sure, mogel started it and I suppose he has this right. But that doesn't
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mean that it was a nice or considerate thing to do. He complains all the
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time about how lonely he is, and now he goes and manipulates the
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community he created. That's not right, and that surely won't reduce his
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alienation.
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Why do people have to destroy good things just to make life more
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interesting? Some interesting is bad interesting.
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Anyhow, to stop rambling and sum up. I love our community. I want it to
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continue. In order to continue it, we must get rid of our ties to hoe and
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lessen our ties to mogel. Because, we should not ever let one person be
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able to singlehandedly wipe our expression clean.
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Leah
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Pull the string! Pull the string!
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 133 of 262
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By: Uberfizzgig Replies: 1
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To: MercY Subj: Re: uhm
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Date: 01/10/1900 16:55:25
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>> Soo uhh.. that was a nice email mogel sent, huh?
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I think so. Its about time hogs of ENTROPY did something chaotic. Also
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I'm happy that I don't have to write anymore text files, and that maybe
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Aster will write some more now.
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 141 of 262
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By: phairgirl Replies: 2
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To: writers 'n' stuff Subj: the whole HOE thing
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Date: 01/10/1900 21:25:59
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Well, here is my official post-trauma HOE post:
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I agree, I disagree. I think that HOE definitely needed some awakening--I
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know personally from editing it that it was getting pretty stale. And
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being that it really wasn't my child, I didn't want to get too crazy
|
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changing things. So, I do support some changes in general.
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I do kind of disagree as to who was left on staff and who was expelled. I
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will not make any cracks or value judgements to the world about who I
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think are good/bad writers, but I know I'm not the only one to notice
|
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that a goodly chunk of the remaining writers are either dating, related,
|
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or spend a lot of time hanging out together in RL. And I do think that
|
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leaves a lot of other people feeling really jilted. I would have kept at
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LEAST 8-10 more people on the staff, because I personally think they are
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great writers and deserve a voice, but that's not my decision to make.
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Basically, my worry isn't for the future of HOE, but mainly for the
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friendships involved. Cliqueing off is not cool, and the absense of that
|
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was what made HOE such a great family.
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But then again, this is also coming from someone who is very
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anti-elitism who really thinks that _everyone_ needs an outlet, a voice,
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a chance at expression, as long as they have talent and something to say.
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And I think I would have been a lot happier if the choices in remaining
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HOE members reflected that. No offense to Tasha, but she hasn't written
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since Hoe 900, and even before that, she made the decision to be
|
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non-productive. And never mind that Meenk didn't write the whole time I
|
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was editor because of personal issues. But that's not something I care to
|
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get into.
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As far as Mogel's decision, well, it's Mogel's decision, he's the one who
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pays Dreamhost to host all of our crap :) And I don't personally dislike
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Mogel or anything for what he's done, but he knows my feelings on the
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subject and I think it's fair that everyone else does, too.
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Big sigh.
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Anyway, like I've posted before: I've had a new 'zine project in the
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works for about a month now, but because of the laziness and the changing
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jobs factor, it's been a little slow going. However, I HOPE to release
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Feb 1 or thereabouts, given I get a few more submissions.
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ITS NAME: aNAda. Pronounced "a-NA-da", like I spell it, just because I
|
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wanted to be clear that it doesn't rhyme with "canada". Yes, it stands
|
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for something, but that's pretty complicated and will warrant its own
|
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page. http://www.anada.net.
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WHAT IT IS: Right now, it's just an idea, but that idea is to put a lot
|
|
of the craziness from HOE into a bastard conglomeration of fiction,
|
|
poetry, and propaganda. How I love propagandous ranting. Everyone should
|
|
take a little time to try and change the world. Look! That was propaganda!
|
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WHY IT IS: Well sheeeeet, probably because HOE has just been decimated by
|
|
nuclear blast, and because DTO was too elitist for my own taste, and
|
|
there's just not much around that is publishing on a regular basis with
|
|
anything worth reading.
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WHO IT IS: Right now, it's my baby, I'm feeding it what I like. But once
|
|
I start getting some positive feedback and commitments, I'll add some
|
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official staff, and we'll see what pops up.
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Anyway, this whole post sucked all over the place because I don't feel
|
|
like being opinionated today. I want to be timid for once.
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phairgirl.
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superschmacky.
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 142 of 262
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By: soybean Replies: 1
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To: spirit Subj: Re: uhm
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Date: 01/10/1900 21:48:57
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>> My personal opinion is that now that mogel has personally shit on our
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>> community (no offense to the 2 or 3 decent writers he kept as you had
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>> no control over it) we should remove this base.
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How does whose name appears on the hoe staff page really effect your life
|
|
that much? The same people are still going to write, it's just a list of
|
|
names that were parred down. My name was taken off the staff page many
|
|
months ago because I didn't write regularly. I have not been forbidden to
|
|
do so again in the future, however, nor have I lost contact in any degree
|
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with people I knew before.
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>> However, we will have to make the effort to do so w/o a common ground
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>> like hoe.
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Of course, there is still the common ground of #ezines and this bbs.
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That's where people actually interacted, if they chose to interact at all.
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 156 of 262
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By: spirit Replies: 1
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To: soybean Subj: Re: uhm
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Date: 01/10/1900 22:17:05
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>> All I want to know is why people have decided that people who aren't
|
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>> staff can't submit.
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People who aren't staff can submit, but it is clear that they are viewed
|
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as second rate.
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Even if they have a reason to be viewed as second rate, due to actually
|
|
not caring at all, the idea was still unkosher in execution.
|
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If people want to write for something that views them as second rate, so
|
|
be it.
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I plan not to.
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Leah
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Pull the string! Pull the string!
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 157 of 262
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By: Mogel Replies: 2
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To: all Subj: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/10/1900 22:25:47
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I hate to sound so harsh, Leah, but you didn't write very much for HOE in
|
|
the first place. Being a supporter and a writer are certainly different
|
|
things. There's clearly some BIG things you're missing here.
|
|
|
|
#1 - As I stated rather gracefully in HOE #1001, the people selected were
|
|
not really based on PRODUCTIVITY *or* QUALITY. This is especially true
|
|
since it's likely your notion of quality is probably very formalist, and
|
|
that's something HOE fundamentally ain't (not to mention it's subjective,
|
|
but that's irrelevant). HOE is heading into the 'trash aesthetic'
|
|
direction, and I chose the writers I think are most skilled at using this
|
|
technique. For the most part, the decisions for HOE writers were certainly
|
|
not arbitrary, and not clique based. And that's the dog gone truth.
|
|
|
|
#2 -> it's HOE. if HOE *is* the center of an e'zine scene, that is a BAD
|
|
thing. E'zines and friends should be the center of an e'zine scene. It
|
|
could DEFINITELY be argued that this scene has died a long time ago, and
|
|
making any reference to me "killing it" is laughable at best. If we do
|
|
have a 'SCENE' of sorts, I highly doubt who I choose as staff members
|
|
would have relevance. AND... AND... IF THEY DO HAVE RELEVANCE... it's
|
|
most certainly the time to change that.
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|
But let's be honest, huh? You've SET YOUR MIND on the fact that I AM AN
|
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ASSHOLE and I AM A COLD HEARTLESS POLITICAL TEXT FILE STALIN and NOTHIN'
|
|
that NOBODY COULD SAY OR DO would EVER CHANGE THAT NOW, NO SIR, NO WAY
|
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BABY, I'M TOTALLY TRAMPING ON YOUR ABILITY TO HAVE ANY MORE FRIENDS ON
|
|
THE INTERNET. ALL OF YOUR CHAT BUDDIES MUST PASS THROUGH ME. Okay, I
|
|
apologize for that. Maybe I really am a terrible person.
|
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|
How about this: write a text file that's really good. Try it! You might
|
|
like it! That sounded convoluted. Here, wait, I'll re-phrase it so it's
|
|
nice and simple. AHEM.
|
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|
THE SIMPLE (SEAYA) VERSION:
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If the e'zine scene that you seem to feel exists is based on
|
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*friendship*, than HOE should IDEALLY have little relevance, eh?
|
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If the e'zine scene that you seem to feel exists is based on *writing*,
|
|
then we should have more writing. And being part of any one group
|
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shouldn't matter.
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So, in conclusion, write something.
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-Mogel
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 159 of 262
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By: spirit Replies: 2
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To: Mogel Subj: Re: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/10/1900 22:37:55
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Many replies to a pompous ass:
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>> #1 - As I stated rather gracefully in HOE #1001, the people selected
|
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>> were not really based on PRODUCTIVITY *or* QUALITY. This is especially
|
|
>> true since it's likely your notion of quality is probably very
|
|
>> formalist, and that's something HOE fundamentally ain't (not to
|
|
>> mention clearly subjective, but that's irrelevant). HOE is heading
|
|
>> into the 'trash aesthetic' direction, and I chose the writers I think
|
|
>> are most skilled at using this technique. For the most part, the
|
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>> decisions for HOE writers were certainly not arbitrary, and not clique
|
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>> based. And that's the dog gone truth.
|
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Bull and shit. I spoke to phairgirl. I know how it went down. You
|
|
basically picked it based on the decisions of AIDS and meenk who picked a
|
|
clique. Although you may not have meant it to be a clique, it is made up
|
|
of a clique. It just does not make any sense that a blatant trash
|
|
aesthetic would be better than a diverse offerring. You cannot say you
|
|
strove for anything at all besides just doing what angsty white males
|
|
have been doing in every ezine since the beginning of time. Saying nigger
|
|
for show and writing long random crap gets old in milliseconds.
|
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You didn't kill the scene. You killed hoe and shat on the people who make
|
|
the scene great in a very inconsistent and pithy manner. You really have
|
|
this bloated sense of self importance, don't you. Well, you will no
|
|
longer be able to pull shit like this, that I can assure you, no matter
|
|
what you would call it.
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>> But let's be honest, huh? You've SET YOUR MIND on the fact that I AM
|
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>> AN ASSHOLE and I AM A COLD HEARTLESS POLITICAL TEXT FILE STALIN and
|
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>> NOTHIN' that NOBODY COULD SAY OR DO would EVER CHANGE THAT NOW, NO
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>> SIR, NO WAY BABY, I'M TOTALLY TRAMPING ON YOUR ABILITY TO HAVE ANY
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>> MORE FRIENDS ON THE INTERNET. ALL OF YOUR CHAT BUDDIES MUST PASS
|
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>> THROUGH ME.
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You are truly an idiot. You very much oversimplify things. Until now I
|
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have met all of these people because of you, but that's going to change
|
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soon.
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>> How about this: write a text file that's really good. Try it! You
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>> might like it! That sounded convoluted.
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And here Mogel makes an attempt to insult my writing, when he knows it
|
|
was fairly decent and I wasn't even trying. Man those list t-files get
|
|
old, don't they?
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>> If the e'zine scene that you seem to feel exists is based on
|
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>> *friendship*, than HOE should IDEALLY have little relevance, eh?
|
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>> If the e'zine scene that you seem to feel exists is based on *writing*,
|
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>> then we should have more writing. And being part of any one group
|
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>> shouldn't matter.
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This may be true in a general sense; however, it still remains that the
|
|
way you went about trying to prove it smacks of a god complex and taking
|
|
people for granted. You will not take me or others for granted any more.
|
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Have fun masturbating!
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>> So, in conclusion, write.
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Ah Mogel, the prophet of the ezine scene.
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Leah
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Pull the string! Pull the string!
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 180 of 262
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By: AIDS Replies: 1
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To: Everyone Human + Leah, the Subhuman Primate
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Subj: The Last Word (until someone replies)
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Date: 01/11/1900 01:49:34
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Well, christ, where to begin children?
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I suppose the best place is at the beginning: when we decided to kick the
|
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majority of writers out. Contrary to popular belief, this idea originated
|
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with neither myself nor meenk. Mogel was tired of people taking advantage
|
|
of his inability to JUST SAY NO to crap.
|
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It's true, of course, that meenk and I did swoop down upon him after that
|
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and use him like the tool he is. So we kicked out all the people we
|
|
hated. I could give you a bunch of reasons why, but it really does come
|
|
down to HOE being a gigantic clique.
|
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For instance, it was a forgone conclusion that even if caitlin never
|
|
writes again, she will be staff as long as I am tangentially involved
|
|
with the project. I want you to think about that, Leah. She *never* has
|
|
to write again, and she'll be a member regardless. All of your support of
|
|
HOE doesn't mean shit if you don't put out for the editorial staff.
|
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Cannibalb and Basehead were kept primarily because I like them. There are
|
|
other examples, of course, but why bother? HOE is a big fucking clique.
|
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Who cares? It's my clique and you're not in it. Sucker.
|
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Even if we weren't justified in kicking you out of our clique for just
|
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being you, we'd be justified in kicking you out due to your response to
|
|
our kicking you out. Does that seem paradoxical? Fuck you! It's our
|
|
clique!
|
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|
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Seriously, though, you don't get HOE. It wasn't ever quality and it
|
|
wasn't ever about anything OTHER than me jerking off while 47 other
|
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people wrote the most god awful shit on the planet to space out my files.
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I'd also, for the moment, like to address the criticisms of my files.
|
|
You're right, usage of the word NIGGER and random shit isn't particularly
|
|
interesting. That was the point. Mostly. However, Leah, I am deeply
|
|
concerned that you of all people did not appreciate them. YOu're my
|
|
target audience. You went to college, right? How many times did they make
|
|
you read DUBLINERS? Three? Four? Should all my oh-so-witty literary
|
|
allusions give you the smug satisfaction of knowing you, in fact, are NOT
|
|
alone in this uncooth and uncultured world? I mean, Leah, honey, I was
|
|
writing mainly for you and me and all the other collegiates and alumni.
|
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You're my target audience.
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Phairgirl, I'd like to address your insinuation that HOE will now become
|
|
a multitude of AIDS-clones. Had you read and properly comprehended HOE
|
|
#999, you would realzie that HOE #999 was a call to burn out the AIDS
|
|
persona and those who would imitate it. My worst nightmare is ever seeing
|
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a file anything like my own in HOE, by me or anyother else, ever again.
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I'm not going to write for a few months, because I have nothing left to
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say. There's nothing I can say that can't be said by some woman somewhere
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in a less grammtically structured and less coherent format, and I'm
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keenly aware of that harsh reality. I'm going to rethink my personality
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in HOE, and try to work in the sidelines as a editor. I personally want
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to assure you that AIDS-like content will be at the barest miminum, if
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not rejected outright. I'd also like to wish you much success with your
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new zine, Late 90s Token Black VJ.
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As a side note, Leah, I'd like to point out how offensive I find your
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attempts to refute my oh-so-acerbic comments about womens' inability to
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write. At the very least, you could have attempted to carefully write a
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response, rather than bang on your keyboard like an ape full shot up with
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distilled Andrea Dworkin and bell hooks. You, my dear, write like a
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barbarian.
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By: zooeY Replies: 2
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To: spirit Subj: Re: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/11/1900 15:27:21
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>> One thing I should inform you is I am aware that h0e is dead... Anyhow,
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>> you should read carefully before you make forced inane commentary.
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i honestly have no idea what you're talking about. i don't think my witty
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joke about how all of this is a (incredibly twisted) rehash of hoe-is-dead
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(from-as-of-issue-90) even vaguely qualifies as "inane commentary". well,
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i guess we've already firmly established that i'm the only one who finds
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myself witty, but all the same, it's a "dumb" joke, not an "inane" one,
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because it was *really* quite appropos.
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i just get a huge kick out of everyone dancing about in circles around
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"hoe is dead" now, when a majority of them weren't even in the scene and
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have no memory of the first time it died. I AM JUST SUCH AN OLD JADED
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FUCK I GUESS. no one has a sense of history anymore! kids these days!
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HOE IS DEAD, LONG LIVE HOE.
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andrew
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p.s. feel free to continue "refuting" me (and everyone else); i'm sure
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that i (and we) will continue to fail to "hold water," but before you do,
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try to figure out if i'm (or we're) actually arguing with you.
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 193 of 262
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By: zooeY Replies: 1
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To: spirit Subj: Re: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/12/1900 06:02:33
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>> Please do not insinuate I don't know what I am talking about.
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leah, you're always so busy trying to be right that you really don't take
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the time to try & figure out what it is you're being right about.
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if a statement obviously doesn't apply to you, why do you assume that it
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does? if it obviously doesn't? isn't that kind of a dumb thing to do? i
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mean, in all honesty?
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at least, sometimes it seems that way. in any case, i won't go any
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further trying to explain how i did actually mean what i meant, since
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you're the only one here that's a qualified arbiter as to what people
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actually think.
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 194 of 262
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By: spirit Replies: 1
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To: zooeY Subj: Re: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/12/1900 08:08:52
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>> if a statement obviously doesn't apply to you, why do you assume that
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>> it does? if it obviously doesn't? isn't that kind of a dumb thing to
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>> do? i mean, in all honesty?
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When you reply to me, don't you think you're talking to me?
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Leah
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Pull the string! Pull the string!
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 195 of 262
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By: zooeY Replies: 1
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To: spirit Subj: Re: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/12/1900 12:55:30
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since i'm evidently the only one in this base left with enough patience
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to actually talk to you, leah, i decided that your post actually merited
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a full response, which i have now prepared.
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namely, i would like to address your concern--"when you reply to me,
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don't you think you're talking to me?"--from two different angles.
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the first, and more obvious, would be to present a generic and hopefully
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representative case study. so, say, if in a post to you, i said something
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to the effect of "people with three feet are ugly." does that mean that i
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am saying that you have three feet? or that you are ugly? or, that i am
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not talking to you? of course, the answer is no on all three counts.
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what that means is that i am making an observation, to you, of my personal
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reaction to the sight of a person with three feet. in most cases, my
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meaning would be clear--unless, for whatever reason, you believed me
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foolish enough to believe you to have three feet. however, by assuming
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that i don't know how many feet you have, you're insulting both your and
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me. you, because you're admitting that someone might not think that you
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have the normal number of feet, and me, because only an idiot would make
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that mistake after having met you and having first-hand experience of
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your correct number of extremities.
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i admit that you may find that a somewhat far-fetched analogy, but i also
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think that it holds 100% true.
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secondly, after having drawn out that general case, i would like to
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address the specifics of this particular disagreement. i will do that by
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running through, post by post, both your and my stated responses.
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to begin with, we'll take the background of the "what is the future of
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hoe" thread, which I joined (to such extent that i did, that is) some 40
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or so posts into. at which time, i made a post which was a reply to one
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of your posts which had included the text phrase "hoe is dead". for
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background, and as i stated, i had been waiting through that entire
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thread for someone to quote from "hoe090.txt". which you did. I then
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continued to make light of the fact that people are talking about hoe
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being "dead" now, when mogel had actually killed it years before, and
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when in fact the zine has *not* actually been killed at this point in
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time, just restructured.
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i found that ironic. i'm a big fan of irony. you then responded to my
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post, calling my commentary "inane" and accusing me of not having read
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your posts carefully enough.
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but, believe me, i read your posts very carefully! i got a huge kick out
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of the entire thread. it added some levity to an otherwise drab day. in
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any case, i then responded to you, giving more detail on how you may have
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in fact accidentally missed my joke, and going into some added facts
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about why I found the thread amusing.
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at which time, i mentioned how i am particularly amused by all the people
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who are relatively "new" to the scene thinking that this is all a novel
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argument. i'm still amused by that, in fact. however, i failed to
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*explicitly* mention that i was excluding present company from my
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description of people "new to the scene," so then you mistakenly jumped
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to the conclusion that i was calling you a wet-behind-the-ears-newbie.
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but, it was just a comment that I thought interesting. given how *long*
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you've been in the scene, if you thought about it, you might find it
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interesting too. that's why i mentioned it to you (and everyone else!)
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here, i should also admit that i kind of intentionally omitted the
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disclaimer to see if you'd bite. a too-amusing parlor game ploy by
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myself, perhaps, but sadly effective. you see, leah, i know you've been
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around. as mentioned, i've *been* here for ages. it's silly for you to
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always assume that no one else knows what they're talking about, as you
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do, all the time.
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i find it ironic (aaaah! sweet irony!) that you constantly post telling
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me (and others, not to be exclusive) that i'm not reading your posts, or
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putting words in your mouth, or *whatever*, when the problem is simply
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that you fail to look outside of the box. maybe in Leah World every
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statement by every person is about and concerning you, but out here,
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that's just not true.
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we should really be able to feel confident that if we say something like,
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"hey, leah, it sure is raining hard," that we won't be accused of calling
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you a storm front, and then being accused of being a dunce when we try to
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point out that we didn't really *mean* that you were a big dark nasty
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moist cloud. or et cetera!
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in conclusion, i hope that this summary has helped you to more fully
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understand my prior comments in this thread, and improved your
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comprehension of at least this one little tiny corner of the entity known
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as the "obloid sphere."
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thank you,
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andrew
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 198 of 262
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By: spirit Replies: 3
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To: Rhea Subj: Re: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/12/1900 17:21:20
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>> I don't know what's funnier, zooey: the actual response, or the fact
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>> that you spent so much of your time writing it! but either way, it's
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>> funny! thanks!
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What's really funny is fucking mother fucking AOL fucking mother fucking
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crashx0red when I was writing my lengthy response.
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To summarize:
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1) analog-less analogy
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2) no newbies were involved in the discussion, so your remarks are
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baseless, and if you meant phairgirl I will beat you, because she was
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hurt worse than anyone else over this
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3) I mistook joking for ridicule, because your tone is often ridiculing
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4) I only get angry when people say things just to be difficult and get
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my goat, admittedly this means I am rising to the bait, but it means I
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have integrity and I don't lie or censor myself even if I know I'll
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probably change my mind
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5) if mogel, phairgirl, and myself wanted it to die, don't you think
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commenting on it would be viewed as extraneous and "just to get Leah's
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goat", which you admitted below
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6) hoe is actually dead this time, because no longer will mogel be able
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to make such a dramatic event occur, his actions with regard to this
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issue have caused me to reinterpret past actions and say enough is enough
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(so it's bigger than hoe), anyhow in the other cases hoe was allowed to
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naturally evolve, and I explained it better in my fucking missing
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message, damnit!
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If you would like me to elaborate, email me privately. I grow steadily
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tired of this issue and I fucking hate aol, but my fucking motherfucking
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parents have it, so there.
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 211 of 262
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By: trilobyte Replies: 0
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To: spirit Subj: Re: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/13/1900 02:03:04
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>> 4) I only get angry when people say things just to be difficult and get
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>> my goat, admittedly this means I am rising to the bait, but it means I
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>> have integrity and I don't lie or censor myself even if I know I'll
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>> probably change my mind
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From my observations, Leah, it seems that you often misinterpret a lot of
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remarks as being personal attacks, even when they are not. Any neutral
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statement made to you, including a statement of disagreement, stands a
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good chance of having its tone re-aligned into something more insulting.
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It's almost the way that an insecure person reacts, yet you take extreme
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caution not to appear insecure. This happens frequently with people that
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you deem unworthy of your attention -- people whose statements you will
|
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automatically brush off your shoulder or take offense towards just because
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of your personal opinion of them. It's almost a sort of prejudice, though
|
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you may have strong reasons for feeling the way you do toward the speaker.
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You ignore the fact that the person is still taking their time to
|
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conversate or argue with you -- their time is, after all, also worth
|
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something -- and just continue to disagree with them, no matter what
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they're saying. Once you've set out on your left foot, you never step with
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your right. It seems to be a sort of haughtiness and self-importance,
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almost as if you believe yourself to be a princess. And certainly each
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person has every right to think of themselves as such. But when it keeps
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human interaction from being normal and sane, it turns into a problem.
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[disclaimer: the above statements are made with no spite or malice. they
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are simply interpretations the author has made from observations of the
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recipient's interaction with other people on on-line forums. they could be
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completely wrong. the author is, after all, talking about the heartless
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void of emotion known as the internet. they are in no way related to the
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author's interactions with the recipient, which have been perfectly
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pleasant and enjoyable.]
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--trilobyte
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 212 of 262
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By: trilobyte Replies: 1
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To: ALL PISSED OFF PEOPLE EVERYWHERE Subj: Re: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/13/1900 02:24:06
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>> Like I said, it is true, but she knows a great deal more about what
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>> happened "behind the scenes" than she has specifically described.
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>> Let's just say, it's U.G.L.Y.
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Behind the scenes? HOE was Mogel's baby. He's been in charge of the thing
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off-and-on for a very long time. Even when other people were the head
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editors, Mogel still did a lot of tasks involving running the thing.
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Mogel's been going through a lot of depression and whatnot lately. And we
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all CARE about Mogel, right? I mean, we don't want to see him UNHAPPY, do
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we? No! So if Mogel decides that he wants to restructure the zine that he
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created, and he runs, I think he can do it!
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And he did!
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So now some people feel shafted. They can't write for HOE anymore!
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Shucks!
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If they still feel the need to write, they can start up their OWN zine!
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It's not that hard! There are also OTHER zines that the people can write
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for!
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...but what if those people can't write well enough for the other zines
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to accept their submissions?
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TOUGH HOOEY.
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Learn how to write REAL text files. Learn how to write text files that
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don't require a zine to LOWER ITS STANDARDS just to publish your GARBAGE.
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Look back to the days of DTO and GRILL and RAD and all the others. A lot
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of the stuff they printed was _inventive_. Then the stuff that would get
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printed in HOE was _different_ from the stuff in the "main-grain" zines,
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but it wasn't necessarily BAD! It wasn't painful to read. It often had
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sparks of genius. It was just self-aware of its badness, and revelled in
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it!
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What's the point of running a zine that will release anything any fucking
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dufus can bang out in a text editor? I mean, who actually WANTS to READ
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shit like that? I stopped reading HOE over the past 150 issues because so
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much of it was not even worth my time! People would try to write stories
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and they would just be washed-out copycat renditions of a story I'd heard
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10 years earlier! Or the story would be something I could romp through in
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my head, or on a piece of paper, in 5 minutes!# I don't want predictable.
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I don't want similitude. I want to read stuff from people who can DO
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SOMETHING I CAN'T. Otherwise I'd just sit here at my computer and churn
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out my OWN text files endlessly, because when I don't have to think of
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any original ideas, it's REALLY FUCKING EASY.
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Let's not fall victim to rampant LAZINESS. If someone out there who's so
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burned by the restructuring of HOE can actually write something WORTH
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READING, then start a fucking new zine up, and start printing shit. It's
|
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not that difficult. I'm sure Mogel will even link to your site from the
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fucking HOE site. His message to everyone saying "YOU'RE OUT OF HOE"
|
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didn't say "I HATE YOU, WE ARE NO LONGER FRIENDS." If that's how you feel
|
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about it, though -- if you're prepared to end all communication with
|
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Mogel because he took control of something he controlled -- then you
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weren't even friends with him for the right reasons. I only have a small
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inkling of the full meaning of the word "SUPERFICIAL", but perhaps it
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would work in well to what I'm trying to say.
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And as far as all of this U.G.L.Y. shit, what the fuck are you talking
|
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about? The fact that Mogel and AIDS and Meenk are friends who all played
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a part in the HOE reorg? When Mogel wanted to kill HOE, wasn't it his
|
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friend Metalchic who took over? I don't know if there was as much of a
|
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tempest back then as there is now, but what's different? The fact that
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the scene is smaller now? That part of the group might feel alienated?
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BIG FUCKING DEAL. the reason the scene has been stagnant for so long is
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BECAUSE of hoe. it's been the leech that's sucked out all the blood.
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when anyone can write anything of any standard and get it published in
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HOE, which has a rather large readership, why bother doing anything else?
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why should anyone try any harder? why should there be any other zines? it
|
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was a leech.
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obviously nobody cares enough about the quality of text, and obviously
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none of you UP IN ARMS folks were even READING hoe lately. if you were,
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your eyes would probably be bleeding and you'd be feeling violated. used.
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cheap.
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see, mogel can't come right out and say "I'M IN CHARGE OF THIS ZINE AND I
|
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KICKED OUT PEOPLE WHO JUST SUBMIT PURE GARBAGE." that's how he REALLY
|
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would have pissed some people off. instead, he had some other reasons,
|
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and used those. but you've gotta know that a need for quality control was
|
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certainly one large motivator.
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so you're pissed because some people are hurt. no matter what mogel did,
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somebody was going to get hurt. even if mogel had done NOTHING, HOE
|
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_itself_ would have been hurt. and since all of you seem to care SOOO
|
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MUCH about the fate of HOE, you must feel SOME sympathy.
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but what drives people to write, more than HURT? if you're all in such
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incredible pain, get those fingers humming and make some god damned text
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files. write some stuff that people will want to read.
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if anything, you can create a zine that's BETTER than hoe. would that be
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revenge enough?
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--trilobyte
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Hogs of Entropy Forum 240 of 262
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By: jubz Replies: 2
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To: spirit Subj: Re: Very Surreal
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Date: 01/23/1900 09:07:34
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>> Fuck you. I was not whining. If you think rational, representative
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>> comments are whining, then it all the more proves that you only care
|
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>> about yourself and view all other concerns as buzzing insects rapping
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>> at the windows of your superior mind.
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You really were whining, sorry. Please shut the fuck up about hoe. I
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mean, who the fuck cares? It's a stupid fucking 'zine made by a bunch of
|
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morons. You need to go out and take a nice walk, maybe get a massage.
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Please, just relax.
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-jubz
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