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Welcome to the eleventh installment of the Frog Farm. This issue contains:
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1) The Hacker Community Wises Up (reprinted from DnA Volume 1, #4)
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2) State Legal Citation Systems and Standards
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3) Headlines (reprinted from FACE Newsletter September 1993)
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4) More from the Vault: The Frog Farm Archives
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5) Public Servant's Questionaire
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6) Administrivia (and SUBMISSIONS!)
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[This originally appeared in DnA ("Death 'n Anarchy"), Volume 1, Issue 4. I'm
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glad to see that my suspicions have been confirmed: I always knew that hackers
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were just the sort of people to become interested in "hacking the law", as it
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were. Now if we can convince them to reject nihilism, and extend the concept
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of property rights to the intellectual, non-tangible realms, we'll have a
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powerful "new generation" spearheading as pro se in court. My biggest fear is
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that they'll be too eager, and rush in too fast as I did in the beginning,
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without having taken the steps necessary to make themselves judgment proof.
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This is dangerous for two reasons. First of all, it makes bad precedent, both
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legally and in the eyes of "our enemy, the State". Secondly, if these kids go
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rushing headlong into court and end up losing big, it could cause them to
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reject the entire concept of freedom, come to the conclusion that sovereignty
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is just a crock of shit, and become even more cynical and nihilistic than they
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already are.
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But the dam has been breached; the meme is being kept alive, the information
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preserved.
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The first section here is a "readme" sort of thing; the second, longer one is
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the actual article.]
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Column Update #3
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By: Lestat De Lioncourt
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Whew! It has been an extremely busy month for the Column and its members.
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Things are progressing better than we ever imagined. The response that we
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have been getting is in a word, phenomenal. I'd like to thank all those who
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have been helping out since the beginning and who have taken time out of their
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personal lives to assist in our endeavors.
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This could very well be the most explosive issue of DnA ever. Even though
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Sixth Column has only appeared twice before, the information you are about to
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read is in a word "incredible". In this installment we have included two
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.GIFs that are copies of FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) documents. Please
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see the file that corresponds to the GIFs for further information.
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DnA / Sixth Column
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Go Global!
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In the past few months there has been an enormous response to the
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information we have made available. Many sysops from around the globe are
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requesting to be linked up with DnANet and ColumNet.
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More information on this will be coming in the next issue. If you can't
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wait that long, call DnA Systems and leave e-mail for the sysop requesting
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more information.
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DnA / Sixth Column
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Proudly Announce
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The Online Information Ordering System
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We have been toying around with the idea of putting up an online system
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for users to order information literature through DnA Systems. Items
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available for ordering will include: books, audio and video tapes, and other
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goodies. All will be available at below retail value. DnA Systems will take
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NO profit in this venture. Shipping and Handling + Cost = item price. Only
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money orders will be accepted.
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There has been some discussion concerning the privacy of user's name and
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addresses. We have decided to allow users who wish to keep their
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address/names/orders completely private, to use PGPed messages to order their
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items.
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Only one person will be responsible for handling orders, and will have a
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special PGP key for this purpose. It will be available on the system shortly.
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We will be putting up a catalog of items shortly. Be sure to check it
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out. More information will be available shortly on this, or call DnA Systems
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for instant updates.
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Incredible News of the Month
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When I began to delve into the fraud of the Infernal Rape Service (IRS), I
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began by reading a series of books written by Irwin Schiff. His writings are
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based on legal facts. [FrogNote: So's your average TV movie of the week... ;)
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Seriously, despite some of the unbelievable stupid crap he's written about
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Jews, his economic and legal stuff is right on.] He has written several books
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such as:
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o The Federal Mafia
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o The Biggest Con: How the Government is Fleecing You
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o The Social Security Scam
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o The Great Income Tax Hoax
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o How Anyone Can Stop Paying Income Taxes
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o The Kingdom of Moltz
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o and others
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[Yeah, some of these 'others' were discussed briefly in alt.conspiracy]
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He was UNLAWFULLY put in phederal prison because he stopped "volunteering"
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for the phederal income tax (tribute). I have read the court transcripts of
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the case and it doesn't take a genius to see the fraud and cover-up committed
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by the IRS, US Attorney, and the Federal Judge.
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Irwin Schiff was to be released from federal prison in December of 1993,
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however it has been discovered that he was released early! He will be touring
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the country immediately, doing seminars, speaking on radio addresses, tv and
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cable interviews. During September he will be in California, and then the fun
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begins. [Sounds great! Try to hook up with his tour if it hits your town!]
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I have already been in contact with Irwin Schiff. We will be meeting with
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him personally when he arrives. [Oh my gosh.. 13th generation cyberculture
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meets who-only-knows-what-exactly... Will either side be prepared?] He has
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recently bought a modem and is curious about the implications of CyberSpace.
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(If he only knew) [You can say that again... Okay, I'll quit now. Anything
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you see in brackets after this point is Schiff's own comments.]
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I have not received any information as to his current schedule. I will
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post his dates/locations/times the moment I get them on DnA Systems.
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Information will probably be available in mid-September. I recommend that if
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you have the opportunity, go to his seminar and listen to him. You will be
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amazed!
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His books will be available for ordering as soon as we work out a few
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details.
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Sixth Column
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File Section Expanding
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In the past six to seven months since the birth of the Column, our file
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section has been expanding on a daily basis. Not including the H/P side of
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DnA Systems, we now house over 1,500 files of information not readily
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available to the average citizen.
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Users from all over the country have been downloading hundreds of files on
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a weekly basis. Some even batch the entire section and d/l 24 megs at once.
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I personally have been bombarded with e-mail by people who wish to thank us
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for the opportunity to access this information and provide it to the people in
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CyberSpace.
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Since the beginning, DnA Systems has maintained that all information
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should be free. To this end, there are NO RATIOS for file access. I'm glad
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to see that many, many people are taking advantage of this.
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If anyone knows where we can get an electronic copy of Clinton's New Tax
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and Spend Package, please let us know. We have been searching for it but
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haven't found anything yet. If you have any information, please call DnA
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Systems and leave me e-mail.
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New Article Column Added
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"The Cult of the Black Robe"
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We've been toying around with the idea of putting a month by month column
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concerning the unconstitutional acts of judges, U.S. Attorneys, Lawyers, etc.
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Our premier article is quite a shocker. We want to give all who read this
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magazine the opportunity to add their stories to this section. If you have
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been screwed, or are being screwed in an unconstitutional manner, we would
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like to hear about it and publish it in the next issue of DnA. ALL articles
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will be considered, we do not censor for subject matter. Please put as many
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facts/dates/etc as possible. Please send your article to Lestat De Lioncourt
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at DnA Systems.
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Federal Court Indirectly Proves
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No Law Requires A Person To File/Pay
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the Federal Income Tax
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What you are about to read is excerpted from Irwin Schiff's book "The Federal
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Mafia". Please take careful note of how the Federal Magistrate Judge (court
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clerk) desperately tries to trick Schiff into giving the court jurisdiction in
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the case.
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This article might be a little long, but please take some time to read it, it
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will shock you.
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<<Beginning Excerpt>>
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Proof that no "liability" for income taxes exists
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anywhere in the internal revenue code
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While I stated in The Great Income Tax Hoax that no section of the Code
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made anyone liable for income taxes, I was asking my readers to take my word
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for it - or to check the Code out for themselves. But now, thanks to my
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latest criminal prosecution and to my two civil law suits, my readers won't
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have to do either. As a result of that litigation, the government has
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supplied me with all the information that anybody should need.
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A U.S. Arraignment - Nazi Style
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On April 5, 1985, while on a media tour to promote my recently released
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book, The Great Income Tax Hoax, three IRS agents pounced upon me as I was
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about to enter the studios of radio station KFBK, Sacramento, California, for
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a scheduled talk show appearance. They pinned me against the wall, handcuffed
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and arrested me. They all carried concealed pistols, which they were not
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authorized to carry (per section 7608) except in connection with the
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"enforcement of Subtitle E and other laws pertaining to liquor, tobacco, and
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firearms." But what does violating one more law mean to the IRS?
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I was subsequently released on bond, and on April 17, I appeared for
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arraignment before Magistrate Owen Eagan in Connecticut Federal District Court
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in Hartford. The government had charged me with three counts of tax evasion
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for the years 1980, 1981 and 1982 and one count of failing to file a corporate
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tax return for 1980. However, on April 8th, approximately 10 days prior to my
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arraignment, I submitted a written motion to the court asking it to dismiss
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the indictment due to the court's lack of subject matter jurisdiction. I
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supported this motion with two memorandums of law. One memorandum cited
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sufficient case law to remind the court of two things it already knew, (1)
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that whenever a federal court's jurisdiction is challenged the party invoking
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its jurisdiction (in this case the federal government) must prove it by clear
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and convincing evidence, and (2) that a federal court's jurisdiction can never
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be assumed by the court. The two short excepts from two of the cases in my
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Memorandum of Law illustrate this:
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Jurisdiction cannot be assumed by a District Court
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nor conferred by agreement of the parties, but it is
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incumbent upon plaintiff to allege in clear terms, the
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necessary facts showing jurisdiction which must be
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proved by convincing evidence.
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-Harris v. American Legion, 162 F. Supp. 700
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The authority which the statute vests in the court to
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enforce the limitations of its jurisdiction precludes the
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idea that jurisdiction may be maintained by mere
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averment or that the party asserting jurisdiction may
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be relieved of his burden by any formal procedure. If
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his allegation of jurisdictional facts ARE CHALLENGED BY
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HIS ADVERSARY in any appropriate manner, HE MUST
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SUPPORT THEM BY COMPETENT PROOF. And where they are
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not so challenged, the court may still insist that the
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jurisdictional fats be established or the case
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dismissed, and for that purpose the court may demand
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that the party alleging jurisdiction justify his
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allegations by a preponderance of the evidence.
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[emphasis added]
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-The Supreme Court
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McNutt v. General Motors Acceptance, 56 S. Ct. 780
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There is ample case law to support this principle that once jurisdiction
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is challenged the court hs no authority to do anything but take action on that
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motion. As the Supreme Court held in The Statute of Rhode Island v. The State
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of Massachusetts, 37 U.S. 709 once the question of jurisdiction is raised "it
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must be CONSIDERED AND DECIDED, before any court can move one step further."
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With this in mind let us see how a Connecticut District Court dealt with this
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issue in my case. My motion claimed that the court lacked subject matter
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jurisdiction to try me for alleged income tax crimes because:
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1. The indictment failed to identify the statute that required the filing
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of a corporate income tax return, and thus failed "to state a charge
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cognizable in the courts of the United States."
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2. "No section of the Internal Revenue Code (erroneously referred to in
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my indictment as 26 USC 7201 and 7203) makes individuals liable for
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the payment of income taxes" and so I was not required to file a
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return or pay the tax purely as a matter of law.
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3. "Section 7402 specifically grants civil jurisdiction only." I pointed
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out to the court that it was never given jurisdiction by Congress to
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conduct a criminal tax trial, because "Title 26" only conferred civil,
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not criminal jurisdiction on federal courts. What could be plainer
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than that!
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4. The court had no jurisdiction to prosecute me (either for evasion or
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for not filing) for a tax which was not imposed pursuant to any of the
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taxing clauses in the Constitution. That since the income tax was
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imposed neither as "a uniform excise tax in accordance with Article I,
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Sec 8, Clause 1 nor as an apportioned direct tax pursuant to Article
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1, Sect 2, Clause 3 and Article 1, Sect 9, Clause 4," a criminal
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prosecution pursuant to such a tax would be manifestly
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unconstitutional.
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I supplied the court with an eighteen page Memorandum of Law just to
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support that last contention.
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Government Fails To Respond
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In total violation of the principle explained in the three cases cited
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above, both the prosecution and the courts paid absolutely no attention to my
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jurisdictional claim - as shown by the following excerpts from the arraignment
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tape that was supplied to me by the court.
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Magistrate Eagan:
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It is my understanding this morning that we were taking the criminal docket.
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The first matter will be criminal number N-85-20. This is a case that is
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assigned to the Honorable Peter C. Dorsey for trial. It is the matter of the
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United States of America vs. Irwin A. Schiff. Is that correct?
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M. Hartmere, Asst. U.S. Attorney:
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That's correct, your Honor.
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Eagan:
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And this matter is here on indictment?
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Hartmere:
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yes, it is your Honor.
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Eagan:
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And has a copy of this indictment been given to Mr. Schiff?
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Hartmere:
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Yes, your Honor I believe he has been provided with a copy.
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Eagan:
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All right, fine...
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Schiff:
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Your Honor, I submitted last Monday to this court and to the U.S. Attorney, a
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Motion to Dismiss the indictment on four grounds of lack of jurisdiction. So
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far the government hasn't responded to that motion. Therefore, I move for a
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summary judgement on the grounds that since I filed a motion that this court
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has no jurisdiction, because the income tax falls into none of the taxing
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clauses of the Constitution, and because I have no liability for the tax; and
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since the government hasn't responded to the contrary, I move that the
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procedure here be dismissed. However, if the government wants more time to
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respond, I'll agree to giving it a continuance.
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Eagan:
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All right, Mr. Schiff, if you'll excuse me, we'll be seated for a minute.
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I'll go through the whole procedure with you and I'll explain it to you. [He
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totally ignores the jurisdictional issue I raised in my written motion, and
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which I just orally re-urged.]
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Schiff:
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Well before we can proceed, your Honor, I think what we have to ESTABLISH is
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whether or not you have ANY JURISDICTION TO PROCEED. Now, it's very simple.
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I have in front of me Section 7402 and it very clearly says, "For general
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jurisdiction of the district courts of the United States in CIVIL actions
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involving internal revenue, see section 1340 or Title 28 of the United States
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Code." Now if I can show the court where it has CIVIL jurisdiction, I think
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it's appropriate for the government to show the court where it has criminal
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jurisdiction...
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Eagan:
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All right, Mr. Schiff, if you'll sit down for just a second please. Mr.
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Schiff this is a preliminary hearing, this is not a trial of the matter nor am
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I here to hear motions addressed to jurisdiction. I will give you sufficient
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time to address your motion to the trial judge and he will be the one...Mr.
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Schiff, please...
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[Eagan again totally ignores my claim that the court lacks jurisdiction
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to continue, even though the government has yet to utter a single word in its
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own behalf. If Eagan had no authority to address this issue, then he should
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have re-scheduled it before someone who did. But my written motion was
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submitted to the court days before my "arraignment," so the Honorable Peter C.
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Dorsey obviously knew that it had to be held before someone who could deal
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with the subject. The reason that the court CHOSE THIS METHOD TO AVOID
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DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE, will soon become apparent. But let's continue with
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my "arraignment."]
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Schiff:
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Your Honor, are you going to ask me to plead?
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Eagan:
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Yes, I am.
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Schiff:
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You'll be asking me to plead to a legal fiction...to plead to something that's
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not a crime...Suppose Michael Hartmere indicted me for eating a banana, would
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you expect me to plead guilty or not guilty to that? And if I pleaded not
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guilty, would I not be suggesting that I believed that eating a banana was a
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crime? Before we continue...
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Eagan:
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No, before we continue you will sit down and you will listen to my explanation
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of what we are doing. Please be seated, Mr. Schiff.
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[The court and the prosecutor (actually, in this case, one in the same)
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were conspiring against me to plead to a legal fiction so that the United
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States could illegally prosecute me. For example, suppose that Michael
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Hartmere, the U.s. prosecutor who fraudulently engineered my indictment, was
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similarly able to pull the wool over the grand jury's eyes and get it to
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indict me for having eaten a banana. Suppose further, that I had never eaten
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a banana in my life. Would that mean that because of that fact at any
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subsequent arraignment, I should simply plead not guilty, or that I could be
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"required" to EVEN ENTER A PLEA for that "crime"? Why should I needlessly
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have to defend myself (which takes both time and money) from charges that I
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was guilty of doing something that I didn't do, but which was not a crime
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anyway? By pleading "not guilty," one also subjects himself to the authority
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of (and in this case a hostile one) a federal judge who, once he has you in
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his clutches, (ie. become subject to his "jurisdiction") can exercise
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arbitrary and awesome power over you. He can establish unrealistic bail
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requirements, decide that you should be confined right through your trial and
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keep you in jail - WITHOUT A TRIAL - by holding you in continuous contempt of
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court. And once you are under the court's jurisdiction (which we can only
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occur after you submit to its jurisdiction by refusing to challenge it [and
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possibly prevailing] by simply entering a standard plea) you can indeed be
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found guilty of something you never did and which is not even a crime. This
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can occur because once the court assumes jurisdiction, it is in a position to
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make false rulings on matters of law (in which defendants are also denied oral
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argument) and falsely charge the jury on the law itself - which occurs all the
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time in tax cases.
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In addition, the prosecutor can totally fabricate its prosecution by
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using perjurous testimony - a perfectly routine procedure in all "tax
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protestor" cases. To put it in the context of my banana example (though a
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better illustration might be, being accused of speaking ill of the President),
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once you plead not guilty to eating a banana, the government is now in a
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position to get witnesses to falsely testify that you did, while the court is
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now in a position to falsely instruct the jury that eating a banana is a
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crime. Since a jury is made up of individuals who generally know ABSOLUTELY
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NOTHING ABOUT TAX LAW, they can be made to believe anything the "judge"
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decides to tell them. So, in case you thought my banana illustration was a
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little far fetched, this is PRECISELY what happens in all "tax protestor"
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cases. Such people are all tricked at their arraignments, and then
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fraudulently prosecuted for doing something that is no more illegal than
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eating a banana. But let's leave the subject of bananas and get back to my
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"arraignment."]
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Eagan:
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Now, before we continue you will sit down and you will listen to my
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explanation of what we are doing. Please be seated Mr. Schiff.
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Schiff:
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Well, I think that jurisdiction has to be established your Honor...
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Eagan:
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All right...
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Schiff:
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And I think the record ought to show...
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Eagan:
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The record is going to show everything that should be shown. Mr. Schiff, my
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name is Owen Eagan. I am the United States magistrate. I am here for the
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preliminary purposes of taking a plea in this case.
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Schiff:
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May I just ask is this an adversary...
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Eagan:
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You may shut up for just a second and let me finish. I'm here to take a plea
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to this particular case. The only plea that I can and will accept is a plea
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of not guilty.
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[In the above exchange I sought to get Eagan to admit that an arraignment
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is an adversary proceeding between me and the government, with the court
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merely "judging" between us, based upon the legal arguments we make. I had
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already made (and legally supported) an argument that the court had no
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jurisdiction - which ALSO INCLUDED EAGAN'S AUTHORITY TO ARRAIGN ME!
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Obviously, that authority had to be established before Eagan could utter ONE
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ARRAIGNMENT WORD! The court was thus duty bound to hear contrary arguments
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from my adversary (the government) and to render its decision accordingly.
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But it is clear from the arraignment tape (as my trial itself would prove)
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that my adversary WAS ALSO THE COURT! Note Eagan's comment that he was only
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there to take "a plea of not guilty." But the court was on notice that I
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intended to argue jurisdiction. So why wasn't it prepared to hear it? But
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you already know the answer to that. So the court concocted a ruse to avoid
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addressing the issue as the law required it to do.]
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Continuing with the "arraignment"...
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Schiff:
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I'm perfectly willing to plead guilty. I will plead guilty. Can I plead
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guilty?
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Eagan:
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No, you may not.
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Schiff:
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Why can't I?
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Eagan:
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Because I have no authority to take a guilty plea.
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Schiff:
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Well then let's get a judge in here who can accept a guilty plea.
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Eagan:
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Mr. Schiff, please sit down at this time...please.
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Schiff:
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I'M PERFECTLY WILLING TO PLEAD GUILTY TO SAVE THE UNITED STATES AND MYSELF THE
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EXPENSE OF THE TRIAL. I ADMIT, YOUR HONOR, THAT I HAVEN'T FILED AND I HAVEN'T
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PAID, AND IF I HAVE A TAX LIABILITY AND IF MR HARTMERE WILL SHOW THIS COURT
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WHERE I CAN HAVE A TAX LIABILITY (AS A MATTER OF LAW) I'M PREPARED TO PLEAD
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GUILTY.
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Eagan:
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All right, now I've given you your opportunity to talk so you please sit down
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and listen...
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Schiff:
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But I'm prepared to plead guilty. [Can you believe that this is actually
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happening in an American court?]
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Eagan:
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Please sit down.
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[Suppose I had been charged with murder, rape, bank robbery,
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counterfeiting, arson, mail fraud or any other crime you can think of and I
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asked the court, "Look, just show me the law which makes what I'm charged with
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a crime, and I'll plead guilty." Don't you think that under those
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circumstances any LEGITIMATE court would have produced the law? In my case,
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"the law" was the Code section that made me "liable" for the tax. Yet neither
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the government nor the court COULD or would produce the law!!!]
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Eagan (continuing):
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It's my obligation today to take a plea to an indictment that was handed down
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by a grand jury on April 3 of this year in New Haven. The only authority I
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have is the authority to accept a plea of not guilty...and that is the only
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authority I have. My other OBLIGATIONS ARE TO MAKE SURE that you get a copy
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of the charging documents; THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHARGE IS; and you
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understand what the maximum penalty might be. Now the way that I accomplish
|
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this is to have the U.S. Attorney explain to you and to me what the charges
|
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are and what the maximum possible penalty is. After that, I must advise you
|
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of what your rights are. [But apparently not of my right to be tried only by
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a court that has jurisdiction]
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[Additional explanation followed in which Eagan explained that he would
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cover such things as: the Speedy Trial Act, the filing of pre-trial motions,
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my competency to stand trial, whether I had an attorney, and whether he had
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any conflict of interest. Following that, I again asked of the court...]
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Schiff:
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Is this an adversary or inquisitory proceeding?
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Eagen:
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Well, the procedure is a preliminary procedure in a criminal process. All
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criminal process is adversary in nature.
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Schiff:
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Well, who is my adversary in this courtroom, your Honor?
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Eagan:
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Your adversary is the United States government.
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Schiff:
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Is that Mr. Hartmere?
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Eagan:
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Hartmere is only an agent of the government. He is not your adversary.
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Schiff:
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But he represents my adversary, is that correct?
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Eagan:
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He represents the government.
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Schiff: Therefore, I assume that if I raise an issue, before you can judge, my
|
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adversary would have to respond?
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Eagan:
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No, that's not so. Dispositive motions - and that's what you are talking
|
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about, have a time and a place. [I hadn't the vaguest idea what he meant by a
|
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"dispositive motion" But I knew that Eagan wasn't telling the truth about the
|
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issue of jurisdiction which I knew was validly before the court.] Once the
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plea is entered, dispositive motions may be filed and they will be addressed
|
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to the trial judge.
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Schiff:
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If you are telling me that you can only take a not guilty plea, I could have
|
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mailed it on a postcard.
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Eagan:
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No, the rules require that a personal appearance...Rule 10...
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Schiff:
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Why?
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Eagan:
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That's the way Congress deems it legal.
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Schiff:
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But this is supposed to be my hearing, isn't that right? It's not a court
|
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martial?
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Eagan:
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This is a preliminary hearing for the purpose of taking a not guilty plea.
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Schiff:
|
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But it's also a hearing to see if you have the jurisdiction to take a plea.
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Eagan:
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There's no question in my mind whether I have jurisdiction or not. I have
|
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jurisdiction.
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[So here the court, without any shame at all, openly violates a
|
|
fundamental principle of federal law - it ASSUMES jurisdiction and without the
|
|
plaintiff being asked to offer any comment at all (let alone assume its burden
|
|
of proof) on the matter!]
|
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Schiff:
|
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Where do you have it from?
|
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Eagan:
|
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I don't think I have to sit here and explain it to you Mr. Schiff. Mr.
|
|
Schiff, please sit down and we're going to go through the normal procedure...
|
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Schiff:
|
|
Your Honor, the courts have ruled that when the issue of jurisdiction is
|
|
raised...the jurisdiction facts must be established or the case
|
|
dismissed..."Jurisdiction can not be assumed but must be clearly shown"
|
|
Brooks v. Yalkie 200 F2d 663. Sir, you cannot assume jurisdiction. When I
|
|
raise the issue of jurisdiction, the government (my adversary) must prove you
|
|
have it. [So far the government, my adversary, hasn't uttered one word in
|
|
opposition to my four claims, yet Eagan decided the matter in its favor! Talk
|
|
about having a friend in court!]
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Eagan:
|
|
For the preliminary purpose of this hearing I am denying your motion, if
|
|
that's what you want. I have jurisdiction. I will proceed...
|
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Schiff:
|
|
You haven't proven it. On what basis do you have it?
|
|
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Eagan:
|
|
I don't have to prove anything to you, Mr. Schiff.
|
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Schiff:
|
|
Your Honor, if I can prove that you have CIVIL jurisdiction pursuant to
|
|
section 7402, why don't you simply ask Mr. Hartmere to tell you where you have
|
|
CRIMINAL jurisdiction? ISN'T THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH?
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
I think I explained this to you before. The dispositive motions must go to
|
|
the trial judge. The trial judge is the only one who can rule on...
|
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|
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Schiff:
|
|
Well, then let's get a judge in here.
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
Mr. Schiff, you are not running this court. We will run the court in the
|
|
normal way that it has always been run, under the laws and under the
|
|
Constitution of this country. [It's a good thing that Eagan pointed this out,
|
|
otherwise no one would have guessed it!]
|
|
|
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Schiff:
|
|
Your Honor, I wasn't...
|
|
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Eagan:
|
|
Mr. Schiff, SIT DOWN!
|
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|
|
|
[This should give you a rough idea of how justice "works" in federal
|
|
courts, as opposed to how it supposedly works in theory. It is clear that the
|
|
court was willing to proceed even though it obviously knew it had no
|
|
jurisdiction (otherwise the court and/or the prosecutor would have offered
|
|
some proof) to do so.]
|
|
|
|
My willingness to immediately plead guilty came up AGAIN as follows...
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
I am willing to plead guilty.
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
I don't want a guilty plea.
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
Why not?
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
Because I cannot accept a guilty plea.
|
|
|
|
|
|
[Therefore, I should have insisted that, that was the plea I wanted to
|
|
make. This would have forced a rescheduling of my arraignment before the
|
|
judge. Then I could have undergone a change of heart and forced oral
|
|
argument on each of the jurisdictional issues I raised. This is what Judge
|
|
Dorsey wanted to avoid - oral argument. In that situation the government
|
|
would have to support its baseless jurisdictional claims in open debate, where
|
|
its reasoning could be challenged and where both its answers and the court's
|
|
would be recorded. Judge Dorsey, for obvious reasons, wanted to make any
|
|
jurisdictional claims and statements from within the safety of his own WRITTEN
|
|
decision. By employing that technique, both his and the government's answers
|
|
to my jurisdictional question wouldn't have to be DEFENDED IN OPEN COURT. By
|
|
contract the court, by limiting its remarks and answers to its own written
|
|
opinion, could with relative safety and impunity, base its decisions on
|
|
arguments that were patently false, incomplete and invalidly supported.]
|
|
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
Well then let's get a judge in here who can accept a guilty plea. Why should
|
|
I be put to the expense of a trial? I can't afford a trial.
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
Do you want to plead guilty?
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
I WILL PLEAD GUILTY, IF THE GOVERNMENT WILL ONLY SHOW ME WHERE THE CODE MAKES
|
|
ME LIABLE FOR THE TAX.
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
NO. You don't want to plead guilty. What you want to do is argue. [Can you
|
|
believe this?]
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
I don't want to argue. I'm perfectly willing to plead guilty. [Here, I
|
|
further reminded the court, that none of the Code sections I was charged with
|
|
violating even mention income taxes, and that the government had also refused
|
|
to address that issue too.] Does Mr. Hartmere suggest that I am evading an
|
|
alcohol tax?
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
Mr. Schiff, you are just back at the same thing all over again.
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
Well why don't you ask him where in the (Code I am required to file an income
|
|
tax return and pay an income tax.)
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
No, I'm not going to ask him anything about that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
And further on...
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
You want me to give jurisdiction to the court by entering a not guilty plea?
|
|
Not guilty to what? Where's the crime?
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
Mr. Schiff, you're arguing the case.
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
I'm not arguing.
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
The proper place to argue that defense, is to Judge Dorsey and it's through a
|
|
Motion to Dismiss (which I had already filed but which the court was now
|
|
ignoring!) Let me get on with this. I will give you the dates where you can
|
|
argue it and to whom you can argue it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
[First of all, I wasn't "arguing" the case. I wasn't arguing whether I
|
|
had filed tax returns or not, or whether I had paid the taxes or not (as a
|
|
matter of fact I had already admitted to not doing either) or whether or not I
|
|
"concealed" any income that would have been "arguing the case." I was only
|
|
arguing the issue of jurisdiction, not the case." And an ARRAIGNMENT IS JUST
|
|
THE PLACE TO MAKE THAT ARGUMENT. Eagan's claim that I would have an
|
|
opportunity to "argue it" later was another sham. Once the court got by the
|
|
"arraignment" with its "magistrate" ploy, it refused to grant me oral argument
|
|
on the issue as Eagan falsely claimed it would do. The reasons for this have
|
|
already been explained.]
|
|
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
This is the proper place to argue jurisdiction.
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
This particular proceeding is not the proper place. [Eagan's statement was a
|
|
blatant lie as my next statement and his response prove.]
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
Jurisdiction can be raised during any part of the judicial process.
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
You raised it. I've denied your Motion to Dismiss this case.
|
|
|
|
|
|
[A moment before he instructed me to submit my Motion to Judge Dorsey.
|
|
Now he denies the Motion he just told me to submit. And if Eagan only had the
|
|
authority to accept a not guilty plea, (as he repeatedly claimed) then where
|
|
did he get the authority to deny my Motion to Dismiss For Lack of Subject
|
|
Matter Jurisdiction?]
|
|
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
Without hearing from my adversary?
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
Without hearing from your adversary.
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
Then this is not an adversary proceeding?
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
I don't need to hear from your adversary to know that I have jurisdiction to
|
|
take your not guilty plea and send you on to Judge Dorsey for the trial to
|
|
take place.
|
|
|
|
Schiff:
|
|
Is this a star chamber proceeding or is this an American court where I am
|
|
supposed to have a hearing?
|
|
|
|
Eagan:
|
|
It is a courtroom where you will have a hearing. It is not a political podium
|
|
for you to give addresses to the court.
|
|
|
|
|
|
[Eagan's statements and admissions prove him to be wrong on all counts.
|
|
This was no "courtroom." I was not to be given a "hearing" And his comment
|
|
that I was turning his "courtroom" into a "political podium" was Freudian:
|
|
reflective of his obvious understanding that my "trial" was really political
|
|
in nature.]
|
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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<<End of Excerpt>>
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Well there you have it, another example of "star chamber" justice -federal
|
|
style (or Nazi, have your pick).
|
|
|
|
Remember that "Eagen" the Magistrate (court clerk) would not take a plea
|
|
of "guilty"...why? Because they could not come up with a law that makes
|
|
anyone liable for the tax. This is just another example of how the "Cult of
|
|
the Black Robe" (as they are commonly referred to today) covers the IRS's
|
|
proverbial ass.
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|
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As stated before, "The Federal Mafia" and all other Schiff books will be
|
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available at "below retail" price through DnA Systems shortly. We will also
|
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make available, the court recording of the above exchange for those who are
|
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not easily convinced.
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[EOF]
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CITATION AUTHORITY EXPECTED TO BE USED IN THE HIGHEST APPELLATE STATE COURTS
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(Based on a 1985 survey of the highest
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appellate courts of each state. Revised
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by the author in March 1991)
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ALABAMA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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ALASKA SUPREME COURT
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Harvard Bluebook.
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ARIZONA SUPREME COURT
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No expectation.
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ARKANSAS SUPREME COURT
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No expectation.
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CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Formichi, Robert E.
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California style manual: a handbook of legal style for
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California courts and lawyers / by Robert E. Formichi.
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3rd ed. Sacramento : Supreme Court of Calif.? ; North
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Highlands, CA : For sale by Dept. of General Services,
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Publications Section, c1986.
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This manual is written by the Reporter of Decisions of the
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California State Supreme Court, and is issued under approval
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of the State Supreme Court as a handbook of legal style for
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California courts and lawyers.
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COLORADO SUPREME COURT
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Judges only
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Uniform Citation Forms. approved for use in Colorado Supreme
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Court opinions 5/3/84 (amended 5/17/84) 2p. Lists deviations
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from the Harvard Bluebook for Colorado materials.
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CONNECTICUT SUPREME COURT
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No expectation.
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Judges only
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In-house style sheet which closely parallels, but does not
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follow in all instances, the Harvard Bluebook.
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DELAWARE SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Counsel only
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"[C]itations will be deemed to be in acceptable form if made in
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accordance with the 'Uniform System of Citation' ...."
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Delaware Supreme Court Rule, 14(g).
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This rule deviates from the Bluebook form in requiring that
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citations to state reporters should not be made where a
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National Reporter Citation exists.
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Judges only
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No citations to state reporters should be made where a National
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Reporter citation exists. Examples of unreported Delaware
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opinions and orders.
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Delaware Supreme Court Rule, 93(c).
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Citation Guidance Memorandum. revised December 1982, effective
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January 1, 1983. 6p.
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"Unless in conflict with anything in this memorandum, follow
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'A Uniform System of Citation' ...."
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Citation Guidance Memorandum, sec. 1.
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Florida Rules of Appellate Procedure, 9.800, gives examples of
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citations to Florida material, and to federal court reports.
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"All other citations shall be in the form prescribed by A
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Uniform System of Citations ...."
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Fla. R. App. P., 9.800(m).
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Additional citation authority
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Florida Style Manual, 19 Fl. St. U.L. Rev. 525 (1991).
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"Any enumerated error which is not supported by arguments or
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citation of authority in the brief shall be deemed abandoned.
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All citations of authority must be full and complete."
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Georgia Supreme Court Rules, 45.
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Additional citation authority
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Legal Research. Appendix V. Citation Forms. Charlottesville,
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Va.: Michie, 1980. (with 1983 supplement).
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No expectation.
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Hawaii Rules of Appellate Procedure, 28(b)(1), requires that
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the Table of Authorities in briefs, contain citations to "both
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the official and the national reporter system."
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gives variations from the Bluebook for Idaho materials, also says:
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"If not covered by rule or statute, citations shall be in
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Citation' ...."
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Counsel only
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Illinois Supreme Court Rule, 341(d), prescribes pinpoint,
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official reporter, textbook and statute citations.
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Judges only
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Style Manual for Illinois and Appellate Courts. Bloomington:
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Administrative Office of the Illinois Courts, 1981. 52p.
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INDIANA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Indiana Rules of Appellate Procedure, 8.2(B)
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"It is recommened that when briefs contain references to
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scholarly treatises, law journals, statutes, etc.,
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citations should follow the form prescribed by the current
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edition of the Harvard Citator."
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Ind. R. App. P., 8.2(B)(2)
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IOWA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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Iowa Rules of Appellate Procedure, 14(e), prescribes pinpoint,
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official, unpublished opinion, text book and Code citations.
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Judges only
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Citation System and Format Guidebook. Des Moines, Iowa:
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Supreme Court, 1984. 42p.
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KANSAS SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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No expectation.
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Judges only
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Appellate Reporter's Office Citation Manual
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KENTUCKY SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Kentucky Rules of Civil Procedure, 76.12(g) prescribes official
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reporter, and Revised Statute citations.
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LOUISIANA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Additional citation material
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Louisiana Law Review. Citation Form Addendum. Baton Rouge:
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Louisiana State University, 1983. 12p. (with 1p. amendment,
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dated June 27, 1983)
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MAINE SUPREME JUDICIAL COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Michael D. Seitzinger & Charles K. Leadbetter, Uniform Maine
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Citations. Portland: Maine Law Review, 1983. v, 29p.
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Harvard Bluebook.
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MARYLAND COURT OF APPEALS
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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MASSACHUSETTS SUPREME JUDICIAL COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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MICHIGAN SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Michigan Uniform System of Citations, adopted by the Supreme Court,
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October 4, 1971, Administrative Order No. 1971-3, 385 Mich. xxvi.
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Additional citation material
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Alterman, Plain and Accurate Style in Lawsuit Papers, 2 Cooley
|
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L. Rev. 243 (1984).
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John Doyle, Michigan Citation Manual. Buffalo, N.Y.: Wm. S.
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Hein, 1986.
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Rules of Citation. Proposed Michigan Court Rules, Subchapter
|
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7.500, 402A Mich. 455 (1978).
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Florence M. Telling & Marilyn A. Estes, Michigan Uniform System
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of Citation. Rev. ed. Detroit: Legal Secretaries Association, 1982.
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MINNESOTA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Additional citation material
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Citation Manual. St. Paul: Minnesota Supreme Court, 1979.
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MISSISSIPPI SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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MISSOURI SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Judges only
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Internal memorandum on citation form (9/17/79). 12p. Closely
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follows the Harvard Bluebook, but deviates in a few instances.
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MONTANA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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NEBRASKA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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Nebraksa Supreme Court Rule, 9C(4) - (6)
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Judges only
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Harvard Bluebook.
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NEVADA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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No expectation.
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NEW HAMPSHIRE SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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Supreme Court Rule 16(9), prescribes the form for case
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citations.
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Judges only
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No expectation.
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NEW JERSEY SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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No expectation.
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Judges only
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Manual of Style. Rev. ed. Trenton, N.J.: Administrative
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Office of the Courts, 1979. 15p.
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NEW MEXICO SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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"Any consistent method or form which adequately identifies the
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cited authority and aids the court may be used."
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Crim. App. R. 501(e).
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"All New Mexico decision shall be cited from the official
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reports, with parallel citations if available. Other decisions
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may be cited from either official or unofficial reports, parallel
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citations being desired so far as available to the counsel.
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Unofficial citations shall always identify the court rendering
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the decision."
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Civ. App. R. 9(j).
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Judges only
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Joseph E. Samora, A Comprehensive Manual for the Supreme Court
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of New Mexico and the New Mexico Court of Appeals. 2nd ed.
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Santa Fe: Supreme Court of New Mexico, 1984.
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This manual in turn mandates following the Harvard
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|
Bluebook, with a few minor variations which were suggested
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by West Publishing Company.
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NEW YORK COURT OF APPEALS
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Counsel only
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CPLR 5529(e) prescribes the form for case citations.
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Judges only
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Official New York law reports style manual / prepared by the Law
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Reporting Bureau of the State of New York ; compiled and edited by
|
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Frederick A. Muller. -- Rochester, N.Y. : Lawyers Co-operative Pub.
|
|
Co., 1987. 59 p. (new edition expected summer 1992).
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Additional citation material
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New York Rules of Citation. Jamaica, N.Y.: St. John's Law
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Review, 1978. 32p.
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NORTH CAROLINA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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NORTH DAKOTA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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No expectation.
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OHIO SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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No expectation.
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Judges only
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Manual of the Forms of Citation Used in the Ohio Official
|
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Reports. Columbus: Supreme Court, 1985. 48p.
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Additional citation material
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Ohio Northern University Law Review. Style Manual. Ada: Ohio
|
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Northern University Law Review, 1979. ix, 80p.
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OKLAHOMA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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No expectation.
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OREGON SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Oregon Rules of Appellate Procedure. Appendix G.
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Judges only
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Appellate Court Style Manual. Salem: Administrative Office of
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the Courts, 1984. 26p.
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PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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RHODE ISLAND SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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U.S. Government Printing Office Style Manual.
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Judges only
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In-house style sheet.
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SOUTH CAROLINA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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SOUTH DAKOTA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook
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Judges only
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Internal memo follows the Harvard Bluebook but suggests variant
|
|
citation forms according to guidelines from West Publishing Company.
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TENNESSEE SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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Tennessee Rules of Appellate Procedure, 27(h)
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Judges only
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No expectation.
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Additional citation material
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Laska, Tennessee Rules of Citation, 12 Memphis State U.L. Rev.
|
|
547 (1982).
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TEXAS SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Texas Rules of Form. 7th ed. Austin: Texas Law Review, 1990.
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62p.
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Additional citation material
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Greenhill, Uniform Citations for Briefs, 27 Texas B.J. 323
|
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(1964).
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Texas Law Review Manual on Style. 6th ed. Austin: Texas Law
|
|
Review, 1990. vii, 79p.
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UTAH SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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VERMONT SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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No expectation.
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Judges only
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Harvard Bluebook.
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VIRGINIA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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No expectation.
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WASHINGTON SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook.
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Richard F. Jones, Washington Reports Style Manual. 4th ed.
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Olympia, WA: Supreme Court, 1982. 37p.
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WEST VIRGINIA SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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Harvard Bluebook
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WISCONSIN SUPREME COURT
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Counsel and judges
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"The Supreme Court has adopted the citation form in 'A Uniform
|
|
System of Citations,' published by the Harvard Law Review, for
|
|
all citations in opinions and orders of the Court. The one
|
|
exception to this is that citations to Wisconsin Statutes will
|
|
continue to be cited sec. 250.70, Stats., rather than the form
|
|
prescribed by the uniform system. Attorneys who file briefs or
|
|
memoranda with the Supreme Court are requested to follow the
|
|
same citation form."
|
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Notice to Members of the Bar, 74 Wis. 2d xxxix (November 4,
|
|
1976).
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Wisconsin Supreme Court Rule, 80.02 prescribes the form for
|
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citing decisions of the Court of Appeals and Supreme Court
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WYOMING SUPREME COURT
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Counsel only
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No expectation.
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Judges only
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Harvard Bluebook.
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by John Doyle.
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**
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Assorted Headlines
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[These originally appeared in the September 1993 issue of FACE Newsletter
|
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(Fathers and Children for Equality).]
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Are Domestic Violence Suspects Being Treated Unfairly?
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By Jeff Long
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Franklin County Municipal Court is the only county court in Ohio that
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routinely denies misdemeanor domestic violence suspects bail, says a
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lawsuit filed this week. The suit contends this practice is
|
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inconsistent with Ohio law.
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Phillip Heer, who filed the suit in Ohio Supreme Court, says rule
|
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changes approved by Municipal Court judges in 1987 deny bail to
|
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suspects in domestic violence and other selected cases who should be
|
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eligible for immediate bond.
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"The court has decided to write its own law," Heer said. "It's costing
|
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people in terms of freedom. We have looked at every other municipal
|
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court in the state and we can find no similar rules. Essentially, they
|
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put you in jail and don't want to let you out despite what the Supreme
|
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Court says."
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Heer's suit challenges Franklin County rules that exclude domestic
|
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violence, menacing, stalking and prostitution from the bail schedule
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that applies to other misdemeanors.
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Heer believes the rules changes were spurred by a case in which a
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domestic violence suspect, out on bail, killed his wife.
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Heer first learned about the changes through personal experience.
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"In September of `91 someone convinced my wife to file domestic
|
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violence charges and my initial bail was denied -- since dismissed, all
|
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expunged," Heer said. "And she convinced the court I needed
|
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psychiatric help. I spent nine days in jail and 31 in a hospital.
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When I looked at the law, I realized it was illegal."
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Heer said the rule changes are out of line with what's permitted by the
|
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Ohio Revised Code. He produced minutes of a judges' meeting from
|
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August 1987 in which then-Municipal Court Judge Deborah Pryce suggested
|
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changing the bail schedule to exclude domestic violence "and treat it
|
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more like a felony for bond purposes only," the minutes said. Pryce is
|
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now a Congresswoman.
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"There is such a pattern of victim protection that they're ignoring the
|
|
law," Heer said. "They're jailing people for one to three days when
|
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they should have immediate bail. You're presumed guilty when an
|
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attorney tells a wife, `Charge your husband with domestic violence, it
|
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will help your divorce case.'"
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"Women tend to be told, if they're getting divorced, `File domestic
|
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violence (charges) against your husband. It'll help you get custody'"
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of the children, Heer said.
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Source: _The Columbus Dispatch_, September 3, 1993
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Judge Teresa Liston, administrative judge for the court, said she
|
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responded to earlier inquiries by Heer about the legality of the
|
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rules.
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"Mr. Heer is apparently not happy with our response," Liston said.
|
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"Mr. Heer is not an attorney. He has his own interpretation of what
|
|
the rules are. It's been fully reviewed. The court is in full
|
|
compliance with the law."
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(Editorial Comment: The key words in the above article are in the last
|
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paragraph. Judge Liston states, "Mr. Heer is not an attorney."
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If you go into a court or administrative office, you're often greeted
|
|
by, "Are you an attorney?" It's as if there are two classes of
|
|
citizens, attorneys and all you other people who waste the court's
|
|
valuable time. It seems as though a law degree confers a higher class
|
|
of citizenship.) [FrogNote: Perhaps this person might appreciate a gift
|
|
subscription to the Frog Farm!]
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Source: _The Other Paper_, August 26, 1993
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[...]
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The Lawyerless: More People Represent Themselves in Court, But Is
|
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Justice Served?
|
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By Junda Woo, Staff Reporter of _The Wall Street Journal_, Contributed by
|
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Rama Kalra
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Attorneys Get Too Expensive in Many Family Cases; Self-Helpers Clog the
|
|
System -- The Arnie Becker Syndrome
|
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Dressed in a white T-shirt and flouncy miniskirt, Susan McHugo-Inouye
|
|
looks flustered as she rises to speak. She hesitates and looks around
|
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for help like a junior-high-school student giving her first oral
|
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report.
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But this is no classroom, it is a courtroom, and the scene of a bitter
|
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child-custody dispute. Although Mrs. McHugo-Inouye appears to gain
|
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confidence part way through her presentation, her argument seems
|
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disturbingly disorganized and short on legal reasoning, especially
|
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compared with that of her opposing counsel. When he interrupts her to
|
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object, she clearly is thrown off balance. He summarizes the case in a
|
|
memorandum to the judge; she does not.
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Two weeks later, the judge issues his decision. She loses.
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They are the lawyerless, and more and more of them are demonstrating
|
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their limited skills -- not to mention their casual dress -- in
|
|
courtrooms across the country.
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|
Especially in family court, the numbers are exploding. In Des Moines,
|
|
Iowa, 53% of all such cases feature litigants representing themselves.
|
|
In Washington, D.C., the figure is 88%. As these hordes of nonlawyers
|
|
stumble along, they clog systems that aren't designed to accommodate
|
|
amateurs, creating a host of new challenges for court administrators.
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|
|
|
The lawyerless often aren't flying solo by choice. A family lawyer
|
|
often can collect $10,000 for a complex case, a hefty chunk of it up
|
|
front and nonrefundable. After the economy began to slow five years
|
|
ago, the percentage of nonlawyers in such cases began increasing
|
|
sharply. Meanwhile, divorce rates remain high.
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|
|
|
Lawyers haven't lowered their fees to lure back the lost business,
|
|
either. Plenty of higher-income people still are getting divorced and
|
|
paying hourly rates of $100 and higher. "Lawyers have priced
|
|
themselves out of the middle-class market," says California Superior
|
|
Court Judge Roderic Duncan, who wrote a book on navigating the state's
|
|
municipal courts without an attorney. "They're not interested in that
|
|
kind of work."
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|
|
|
This, of course, raises broader questions about obtaining justice. "A
|
|
system that presupposes the existence of two represented parties is
|
|
breaking down," contends Sara-Ann Determan, moderator of a sparsely
|
|
attended panel on middle-class legal services at the recent American
|
|
Bar Association convention.
|
|
|
|
The head of a leading attorneys' group, the American Academy of
|
|
Matrimonial Lawyers, is unapologetic. "I wish this were a world where,
|
|
realistically, the poor could have the same justice as the people who
|
|
aren't poor, but that's not the world," says Arthur E. Balbirer.
|
|
"It's a shame. Justice sometimes is expensive."
|
|
|
|
If you can't afford to pay, there are few alternatives. Legal-aid
|
|
budgets are drained as it is, with legal-assistance groups routinely
|
|
turning away all divorce and custody work. And private lawyers,
|
|
despite much public horn-blowing about pro bono work, are showing no
|
|
inclination to fill the void. Many attorneys consider family law
|
|
emotionally draining and excessively time-consuming.
|
|
|
|
In cases of serious injury, poor clients can get a lawyer by giving him
|
|
or her a percentage of an ultimate damage award; but such fees aren't
|
|
permitted in family law cases.
|
|
|
|
So, few volunteers step forward. Says Mr. Balbirer: "It's like asking
|
|
a corporate executive, `Why don't you, for two months, give your salary
|
|
to the homeless?' Not to be a wise guy, but if we're going to say that,
|
|
we should apply that standard down the line."
|
|
|
|
Another reason some litigants shun lawyers might be called the Arnie
|
|
Becker syndrome, after the unctuous attorney in TV's L.A. Law. Many
|
|
are leery of slippery divorce lawyers -- with some justification. A
|
|
1992 study by the New York State Department of Consumer Affairs found a
|
|
"pattern" of certain divorce lawyers litigating excessively just to
|
|
ratchet up fees. Others unscrupulously demanded huge payments on the
|
|
brink of trial. Still others overcharged, then abandoned clients when
|
|
the money ran out, according to the report. Acting on the study, the
|
|
New York court system yesterday added several new family law
|
|
regulations.
|
|
|
|
Nevertheless, for some, like Mrs. McHugo-Inouye, the experience of
|
|
going without a lawyer is nightmarish. An unemployed teacher of
|
|
English as a second language, Mrs. McHugo-Inouye says she couldn't
|
|
afford a lawyer to fight her ex-husband's demand for custody of their
|
|
twin daughters. "I could have borrowed from my parents, but I didn't
|
|
want to," she says. They had already lent her money during a previous
|
|
custody battle with her ex-husband.
|
|
|
|
This was either the fourth or fifth dispute for the couple -- the
|
|
parents can't even agree on that. The girls, 12 years old at the time,
|
|
had lived temporarily with their father for almost a year. He wanted
|
|
permanent custody and had retained an attorney to get it. The showdown
|
|
took place at the Family Court, Fifth Circuit, in Kauai, Hawaii.
|
|
|
|
>From the moment she filed papers stating that she no longer
|
|
had a lawyer, Mrs. McHugo-Inouye says, she knew she was in trouble.
|
|
She says a court clerk made her retype the entire form, because instead
|
|
of using the words pro se, she had used pro per, an equivalent Latin
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phrase used in many states to describe someone representing herself.
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"They will hand you a form and say nothing," Mrs. McHugo-Inouye says.
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"If you ask for assistance, it's like it's really, really troublesome."
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The Kauai court administrator says he doubts this occurred.
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In any case, many self-represented litigants can recount similar
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experiences. In part that is because courts are so underfunded and
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overloaded that it is a genuine strain to give self-help litigants the
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extra attention they need. And many of the lawyerless test the court's
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patience. They turn in briefs scrawled in longhand, present arguments
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hysterically and display unrealistic expectations about just how much
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the system can do for them. Mrs. McHugo-Inouye, for instance, was
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disappointed that court staff wouldn't let her borrow a typewriter to
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retype filings. [FrogNote: Not surprising. If you don't have legible
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handwriting, then a typewriter, or even a simple computer and printer,
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can help immensely. Don't get compulsive, but keep it neat.]
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Even if they want to help, court employees, judges and attorneys are
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hamstrung by ethics codes that require the court to remain neutral and
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refrain from coaching or helping any party. It can be painful for
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workers and judges to see litigants adrift, losing out on opportunities
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they know nothing about. But it is also improper for judges to give a
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break to an unrepresented litigant just because he or she doesn't know
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the law.
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"You can't say, `I'm going to weigh this person's argument 60% because
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they're unrepresented, and I'll weigh the attorney's argument 40%,'"
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says Judge Clifford L. Nakea, who presided over Mrs. McHugo-Inouye's
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case. [Should we be expecting our adversary to help us in any way,
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shape or form? If they do, what is that help worth? Is it true that
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you get what you pay for -- in this case, nothing?]
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Mrs. McHugo-Inouye's biggest mistake was a whopper. On the day of
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final arguments, she had been under the impression that Judge Nakea
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would simply interview her daughters on the day of the court session
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and announce his ruling later. Instead, the judge finished
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interviewing the girls, entered the courtroom and asked Mrs.
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McHugo-Inouye and the opposing attorney to begin final arguments.
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Judge Nakea explained that all sides had agreed on such a trial during
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an earlier conference. Somehow, Mrs. McHugo-Inouye didn't get the
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message. Small wonder she seemed unprepared and distracted during her
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seven-minute argument.
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"If you don't know what the procedures are in the court system, you get
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killed," says Barbara E. Handschu, former head of the New York state
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bar's family-law section. "You get all sorts of complications that lay
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people may not realize." In divorce cases, for instance, the tax and
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insurance ramifications of splitting up can get extremely arcane. [Yet
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another reason not to obtain "marriage licenses" in the first place.]
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Still, not every lawyerless litigant gets pummeled. Deborah Crosby, a
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high-school drawing teacher in Chappaqua, N.Y., was divorced in 1987
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but is still battling her ex-husband in a messy visitation dispute.
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She used lawyers for most of the fight but last October she decided she
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had had enough: "In one year, I'd spent $30,000 for nothing --
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absolutely nothing. So I said, `How could it be worse if I represented
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myself?'"
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She felt confident she could do so because she has a master's degree -
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albeit in art education -- and enjoys research. Ms. Crosby contacted a
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group of legal-reform activists for tactical advice. She discovered a
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free law library at the local courthouse. By the time a major hearing
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rolled around in June, she was comfortable citing precedents and
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objecting to irrelevant testimony. "I've learned a lot," she says.
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By traditional legal standards, she has made some mistakes. She wasted
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a lot of time writing up a subpoena that she never served. She lost a
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battle to avoid paying her husband's legal costs after he won an appeal
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that she had initiated. But she has also argued calmly before hearing
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examiners and fended off her ex-husband's efforts to get more visiting
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time with the children. Also, in a fairly difficult maneuver, she
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managed to get a new law guardian appointed for them.
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Would she hire an attorney now, if she had the money? Laughing, she
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says, "I've been burned so seriously, it's like asking me if I would
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ever remarry. It would have to be an incredible attorney, with an
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incredible background." [Good for her!]
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Despite Ms. Crosby's experience, most legal experts agree that people
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who march into court without lawyers are at a disadvantage -- and one
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that is likely to become a fixture of the new legal environment,
|
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especially for the poor. As of 1990, only one legal-aid worker existed
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for every 7,808 people below the government's poverty line, while one
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private attorney existed for every 339 U.S. citizens.
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If there is any help on the way, it is likely to come in the form of
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innovations by court systems to make self-representation easier and
|
|
more effective. In Maricopa Superior Court in Phoenix, the court's new
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services include a do-it-yourself divorce video, which plays almost
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continuously in a courthouse waiting room, and an on-the-spot attorney
|
|
who charges $20 for a half-hour preparation session. In one branch of
|
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the court, there is a touch-screen computer that asks a series of
|
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questions and prints out completed court filings. The computer
|
|
features an on-screen legal dictionary and even plays Vivaldi when it
|
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is idle.
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[How quaint. Irrelevant, and perhaps even inappropriate, but quaint.
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Don't fall for it. As the sovereign, YOU ARE THE COURT. Don't expect
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your adversary to help; don't expect the referee to do anything more
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than provide the place and the time.]
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[Rest of article deleted]
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Source: _The Wall Street Journal_. (c) 1993 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.,
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August 17, 1993
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Forma Pauperis. [Latin] In the character of a poor person -- a method
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by which a litigant without money for lawyers is considerately
|
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permitted to lose his case.
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- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_
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The Frog Farm Archives
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| The Frog Farm:
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| 91Jun25 3:11 pm
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| from Frog Farmer @ Garbanzo (The trouble with censorship is ** *****)
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Lichen @ Garbanzo>>...could you explain common law trust? I couldn't
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find any explanation in my home library. :] I am, though, more
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cognizant of what common law itself is.<<
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A Common Law Business Trust is a private organization set up through a
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properly prepared contract. Assets are exchanged within the company.
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The contract, which is set for a specific period of time, may be
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renewed continually. And as the beneficiaries pass on, no death taxes
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or probate costs are incurred. ALL trust records are PRIVATE.
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Nothing is Publicly recorded.
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A properly designed and operated Business Trust can provide the
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ability to control, manage and limit both estate tax and current tax
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liabilities. The business trust is not subject to Corporate tax on
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dividends. If a trust distributes all of its income each year it is
|
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allowed to treat the distribution as a deduction to the Trust which
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means NO TAXABLE INCOME!
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A business trust will provide important estate considerations.
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Because the business and its assets are owned by the trustee, there is
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no probate, No Transfer of Ownership, No Disclosure of Assets (i.e.
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privacy is maintained), and No Estate Taxes. The business itself may
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continue uninterrupted with a successor/operator/manager/agent
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appointed by the trustee (including a surviving spouse, children, or a
|
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hired employee.) You set it up NOW to preceed your untimely death,
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God forbid. Privacy is fantastic because NO documents of the Trust
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are Public Record.
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The proper design and use of a business trust will provide a high
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degree of liability protection. With a business trust, potential
|
|
liability claims are limited to the assets of the Trust. This
|
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protection can be enhanced by separating the high-risk assets back
|
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from the Trust. For example: A Hotel might separate its parking lot,
|
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pool, bar, restaurant and vehicles each into separate trusts to
|
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protect the asset and isolate the potential liability. The less
|
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assets you have in each trust, the less that trust could lose if it
|
|
was sued. If your business lost the court case, the person(s) suing
|
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are limited to taking only what is in that certain trust. The assets
|
|
of a Business Trust are exempt (in the absence of a fraudulent
|
|
conveyance within one year prior to a bankruptcy) from the claims and
|
|
actions of personal creditors. This works easily as well for personal
|
|
assets too! Taking your eggs from being in one basket and spreading
|
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them around in other baskets to limit any possible damage, so to
|
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speak.
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You or your business can have as many trusts as you want. The more
|
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you separate you or your companies assets into different Trusts the
|
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less liability you or your business has.
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91Jul23 9:13 pm from frog farmer @ Garbanzo
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Greetings from Alaska! People tell me that here on "The Last
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|
Frontier" so many people ignore Uncle Sam on April 15th that this
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"state" has the highest number of IRS agents in the field. There are
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very high numbers of "independent businessmen" here, which is a class
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that the IRS is determined to reduce if not wipe out entirely.
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Also, there are a large number of people who travel sans benefit of
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government permission. The second day I was here, I helped a guy who
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had no license or registration tow an "illegal" trailer bearing one of
|
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those large shipping containers for about 30 miles on a four-lane
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freeway into Anchorage. The trailer had no lights on it, and the
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lights on his truck didn't work. When I asked him whether he was
|
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worried about it, he said that he wasn't, and that lights aren't
|
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needed here in the land of the midnight sun anyway. I thought brake
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lights and turn signals were only a courtesy to other people on the
|
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road, but this guy didn't care at all. The notable near-absence of
|
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police on the roads made any concerns about being stopped negligible.
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The next day, this same guy lent me his Oldsmobile so I could explore
|
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Anchorage. The California registration on it expired two years ago,
|
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yet it has never been questioned. I enjoyed my ride unconcerned about
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it.
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Barry Wong>> Jim, would it be a good idea for Lichen to "really
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respond, giving full particulars of why you're here, for in that way,
|
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you can get this data into the record"? I thought you weren't
|
|
supposed to ever answer any questions, except with other questions.
|
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Doesn't answering the question, even to get it into the court record,
|
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put you under the jurisdiction of the court? And isn't this what you
|
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DON'T want to do?<<
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Right, Barry. There's always a way to phrase a response as a
|
|
question. And the point is that so seldom does a court really have
|
|
jurisdiction, except in the case of a real common-law crime such as
|
|
murder or robbery etc. that the first thing you should do is challenge
|
|
jurisdiction, and make the prosecution, not the judge, prove the
|
|
jurisdiction of the court.
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Lichen>> Also, the stuff like "Why are you here? -- Because I'm not
|
|
elsewhere!" is entertaining, but I don't think it would really impress
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the judges/jurors.<<
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Who wants to impress judges/jurors?? The judge isn't there for
|
|
anything except to commit reversible errors, and the jury should be
|
|
making its decision based upon facts, not impressions. I really don't
|
|
care what the judge or jury think, because if a case of mine gets that
|
|
far, where a jury is impaneled, I'm counting on winning on appeal
|
|
already. Juries are too ignorant to understand a lot of the things I
|
|
rely upon to win, so why waste time worrying about them and what they
|
|
think?
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b0b>> Frog Farmer - "family Bible"? That's really bizarre! Does
|
|
that mean that only Christians can get a passport without a birth
|
|
certificate? Whatever happened to separation of church and state?<<
|
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You think that's unusual b0b? How about the fact that recently
|
|
Congress passed a law declaring the U.S. to be a Christian nation? I
|
|
can't give the cite for it while I'm here in Alaska, but if you remind
|
|
me, I'll post it for you in October when I get back to my reference
|
|
materials.
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Lichen>> Still, there ought to be an alternative way to do things.
|
|
Personally, I don't have my birthdate in the family bible. It's
|
|
recorded and documented in my scrapbook, though...<<
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There OUGHT TO BE an alternative way? If so, then YOU "ought" to
|
|
do it in that alternative way. Natural people existing at the
|
|
Common Law don't need someone else to tell them what customs to
|
|
follow - they create their own. YOUR scrapbook?? When did your
|
|
birth get recorded there? Years after the fact? Hardly a
|
|
documented record! More like hearsay! You don't need a Bible -
|
|
three witnesses attesting to a birth are sufficient and could be
|
|
written anywhere.
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Odin>> Lichen: Yeah it would be good if there was another way to
|
|
get a passport that is non-Christian.<<
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|
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Why do you need a passport? Why must you travel under an
|
|
equitable contract? I don't need a passport to travel to another
|
|
country. I just need the permission of the sovereign of that
|
|
country to enter, and I can get that by asking for it. Why do you
|
|
want to travel sponsored by the admiralyty jurisdiction located in
|
|
Washington D.C.?? Such a privilege requires a corresponding duty.
|
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|
Attorney JS (quoting the ABA)>> "The exclusionary rule affects
|
|
only a relatively small percentage of arrests and searches."<<
|
|
|
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Yeah, like 2 out of 10, or less. It isn't like it couldn't
|
|
apply to ALL searches and seizures - it applies to any and all
|
|
searches and seizures involving yours truly, because the first
|
|
thing I do when engaged by a government agent is invoke it. I
|
|
demand that they state their probable cause to believe a crime has
|
|
been committed; I demand a 4th Amendment Warrant; I demand that
|
|
counsel be present for any in-custody interrogation. These
|
|
demands are necessary to invoke the rule.
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|
|
Attorney JS>> "Thus, the exclusionaly rule appears to be providing
|
|
a significant safeguard of Fourth Amendment protections for
|
|
individuals at modest cost in terms of either crime control or
|
|
effective prosecution."<<
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|
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True. It provides a safeguard for those who know how to use it,
|
|
which are so few that there is hardly any effect at all on either
|
|
crime control or effective prosecution. After all, most real
|
|
criminals are more ignorant than their law-abiding fellow
|
|
citizens.
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|
Nombrist Beor>> In a court at law, you are the sovereign holding your
|
|
court. You enter your motions on the record and state the reasons for
|
|
them (the sovereign is the author and source of the law!) You give all
|
|
interested parties a chance to respond, otherwise, your orders go
|
|
through uncontested. If another sovereign contests your order, then
|
|
you have a choice of either appointing a master (referee) to decide
|
|
the problem or use a jury for the same purpose. The master or jury has
|
|
no power beyond deciding the law and the facts at law. If either
|
|
disobeys, they are in contempt of either your court or the court of
|
|
the defendant.<<
|
|
|
|
Yes, and from what I've heard, there is often quite a bit of
|
|
contempt of court committed by the clerks, judges, and sheriffs who
|
|
may be involved, since few of them are familiar with "at Law"
|
|
procedures. And then the sovereign involved often makes the mistake
|
|
of listening to the bad legal advice those people give out, to his
|
|
detriment. When you move "at Law" you really have to be on top of
|
|
things. You can't look for help or advice from the people who would
|
|
like to see you fail.
|
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|
|
NB>> As prima facie evidence of the law and the facts, you enter into
|
|
the record your tacit procuration or your constructive notice.<<
|
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|
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Both are beautiful tools for making record in your favor. Lawless
|
|
public servants often fail to take them seriously, and then it is too
|
|
late! Their failure to respond, often the result of their own
|
|
arrogance, convicts them on the face of the record. No jury is
|
|
necessary in those cases, judgement being entered on the record by the
|
|
clerk as a result of the wrongdoer's default.
|
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|
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Jim Bianchi>> Bush's new "anti-crime" bill HR-1400 is actually an anti
|
|
-civil liberties, anti-constitution bill.
|
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|
|
It sure is, jimbo. That's why it's so important to learn how to
|
|
deny these fools the jurisdiction they need in order to make their
|
|
actions look legitimate in the eyes of the world. Remember, any law
|
|
that is an unconstitutional violation of your rights is a law you have
|
|
to challenge personally. An unconstitutional law is void and of no
|
|
effect. This is just another one in a long string of unconstitutional
|
|
decrees that the people accept when thrust upon them. It will apply
|
|
to most folks, but not us, right?
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|
|
JB>> WHAT CAN YOU DO? Phone or write your congressman and tell them
|
|
that you want our Constitutional Rights and Civil Liberties preserved,
|
|
and request s/he vote against HR-1400.<<
|
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|
|
Very good advice for government subjects to follow, but what do I
|
|
do when there is no one representing ME? I think I'll just have to
|
|
hone my court skills in anticipation of yet one more assault upon my
|
|
rights under color of law. Same old story, nothing new, just the
|
|
players and code numbers they use are different.
|
|
|
|
Barry Wong>> I think the point of the ownership discussion is that the
|
|
state ACTUALLY HAS AN INTEREST in certain pieces of property (e.g. a
|
|
car) because we contract away our rights to absolute ownership by
|
|
registering them (and such). In other words, practical ownership
|
|
works in most cases (especially if you're conforming to the statutes),
|
|
but when you start trying to claim all of your constitutional rights,
|
|
you need to have as clean a slate as possible.<<
|
|
|
|
Hi Barry! I think you've got it! I think you've got it! The
|
|
rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain. The pain in gain stems
|
|
mainly from the brain!
|
|
That is to say, our grief at finding out that we really don't own
|
|
all those expensive things we worked so hard to acquire is a result of
|
|
the fact that we didn't question the reason for the need of a
|
|
signature when we acquired them! Now I sign everything "without
|
|
prejudice, U.C.C. 1-207"!! Have you seen jimbo's rubber stamp? It
|
|
leaves a memorable impression!
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Nombrist Beor>>...I find it much more challenging and my conscience
|
|
feels better about doing it by 'their' rules.<<
|
|
|
|
Yes, anyone can cheat at a game, but a real master plays by the
|
|
rules, and plays to win! And what's so gratifying is that your
|
|
opponents are not used to playing by the rules themselves; in fact, I
|
|
dare say that they CANNOT play by the rules since their playing skills
|
|
have atrophied due to the fact that most of their opponents lose to
|
|
them by default, and few of their opponents know enough of the rules
|
|
to be able to call them on any violations they may commit. A player
|
|
who knows the rules, who can call all violations when he sees them
|
|
occur, and takes the time to develop a winning strategy, finds it
|
|
almost DIFFICULT to lose unless he throws the game intentionally!
|
|
|
|
NB>> The biggest challenge is that there are all these people who want
|
|
to point fire sticks at me among other things, so unless I want to go
|
|
to jail and such, I got to beat them at the game.<<
|
|
|
|
Yeah, the macho fire-stick thing is a problem nowadays with all
|
|
these gung-ho ex-Marines they like to hire. That's why I like to put
|
|
them at ease immediately by offering to get into the back seat of
|
|
their cars if it would make them any happier. After all, they can
|
|
always ask me to leave! Their fears arise when they imagine the
|
|
possible forms of resistance you could offer if they chose to arrest
|
|
you. So I eliminate that fear immediately. So far, I've never been
|
|
taken into custody. It kinda reminds me of a scene from the movie
|
|
"The Golden Child", where Eddie Murphy encounters the police in the
|
|
airport upon arriving from Nepal. They were there to arrest him, and
|
|
you could see the fear and worry over how it would go down showing on
|
|
their faces, when Eddie Murphy went up to them with hands together
|
|
outstretched, as if to ask to be handcuffed, and said, "I have been so
|
|
bad, you should arrest me right now! I should be punished!" The cops
|
|
actually took a few steps backwards, and didn't arrest him! Anybody
|
|
see that scene?
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|
Barry Wong quoting Frank Zappa>> I don't think it's any accident that
|
|
the educational system in America has been brought to its current state.
|
|
Because only a totaly uneducated mass of people will be baffled by
|
|
balloons. And yellow ribbons and little flags and buzz words and guys
|
|
saying "new world order" and s**t like that, I mean only a person who
|
|
has been dissuaded from any kind of critical thinking and doesn't know
|
|
geography, doesn't know the English language - I mean if you can't speak
|
|
English, then this stuff works on you.<<
|
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|
|
You can thank the valiant efforts of the National Education
|
|
Association for the wonderful job of diseducation they have performed
|
|
upon our populace. It's no accident.
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|
|
|
Frank was one of the early influences on me during my teenage
|
|
years, especially that album that parodied the cover of the Sgt.
|
|
Pepper album. I listened to it between news reports of the 1968
|
|
Democratic Convention riots. I remember enjoying civics class. I
|
|
remember thinking how great it was to live in America where you were
|
|
free to do as you liked as long as you didn't infringe upon anyone
|
|
else's rights. But by my senior year in high school, I saw it as
|
|
AMERIKA. It seemed to me as though the government had lost sight of
|
|
its true purpose. Exercise of rights was seen as being a threat to
|
|
the administration. And from 1968 onward, I watched as things got
|
|
worse and worse. I had to finally be driven to my personal limits of
|
|
endurance in 1979 before I said "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to
|
|
take it anymore." From 1979 through 1984 was my trial by fire, where
|
|
I challenged the government on every issue they cared to prosecute.
|
|
In the year 1984, I saw it as being almost a sacred duty to fight "Big
|
|
Brother". After that, it became almost a hobby. I became a collector
|
|
of motions and briefs and defenses, much like anyone else would
|
|
collect works of art. I began to collect court citations like others
|
|
would collect baseball cards. I stood on street corners handing out
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leaflets printed at my expense, trying to inform the public of their
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plight, to no avail. It seemed hopeless. Then I got my computer and
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discovered BBSing. Surely the higher educated class of computer users
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would be thirsting for the type of information I had gathered. Nope.
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But if I could just find A FEW who would listen, if only to reassure
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me that I was not the last of a nearly-extinct species, that would be
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enough. The search through the myriad message bases available to me
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had the opposite effect of what I had expected. Not only was there no
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interest in these matters, there was hostility and resentment that
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such things would even be brought to the public's attention. But then
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there were a few enlightened sysops who knew that even unpopular ideas
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should have an outlet. Thus was The Frog Farm born. Today, much of
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the hostility on my part has been replaced with understanding and
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compassion for the plight of the unknowing public, probably to the
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degree that I have extricated myself from the snares they so willingly
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embrace. It's good to see that the message has been transmitted to
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the next generation. That's all I could ever have asked for.
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Barry Wong>> 1) Can a person whose rights were not guaranteed by the
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Constitution when it was written (for instance, decendants of black
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slaves) claim the same rights that you do?<<
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It was not RACE which made a person a slave. There were free
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blacks at the time of the writing of the Constitution. And many
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slaves were freed by their masters prior to the Civil War. To answer
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your question, ANY HUMAN BEING may claim, exercise and defend his/her
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inalienable rights, at any time and in any place, so long as they
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haven't contracted away those rights in return for some payment or
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other "benefit". It should be noted that the Constitution
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distiguishes between those "free persons" and "those bound to service
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for a term of years" (Article 1, section 2). It also recognizes the
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right of a person to change his status, through contract, from that of
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"free person" to one "bound to service for a term of years", and it
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will not interfere with that decision once it has been made (Article
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1, section 10). So, now we must ask the question, have the
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descendants of the black slaves chosen to be free, or have they, like
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most others today, chosen to be bound to service for a term of years??
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Did they apply for and use social security numbers? Do they claim
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privileges of citizens of the Admiralty jurisdiction? Maybe they gave
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up the rights able to be claimed by a free man. In that case,
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claiming them would be an act of fraud, would it not?
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91Sep21 10:26 am from frog farmer @ Garbanzo
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I've noticed over the years that many people who suddenly find out
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about sovereignty, and realize that they waived theirs long ago, seem
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to always want to justify servitude and disparage sovereignty, rather
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than find out how to regain their original superior status.
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Many, who express some interest in regaining it, go as far as to
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inquire if there is some form they can fill out and hand in to some
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government agency and thereby become sovereign. Upon finding that
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this is not the case, they lapse back into defending their subject
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status, and they attack sovereignty as being unnecessary,
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unattractive, even untenable. They do this without knowing anything
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about it. At the same time, most do not know anything about the
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subject status they are defending. The major defense seems to be that
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if sovereignty was such a good thing, then why hadn't they heard about
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it in school? (THEY DID!) Or why don't they personally know several
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people who exercise all their rights in the face of government
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opposition? If sovereignty was so good, they seem to be saying, then
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it would be far more popular. I think they credit the general
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population with far too much intelligence. They seem to think that
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anything worth knowing is covered by the TV networks and media news -
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that surely, if it is important, it is covered by the local college's
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curriculum. After all, how can anything so important be missing from
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the everyday common knowledge of the average person? If they could
|
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only accept the ideas of the existence and utilization of
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disinformation and brainwashing...
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Up here in Alaska, sovereignty seems to be better understood.
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Just today there was an article in the newspaper about it, and about
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how the Natives up here are finding new and better ways to take
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advantage of it. Up here, people seem to know that there are two
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kinds of natives: sovereigns and subjects of Uncle Sam. Still, few
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question the fact that very few Whites/Blacks/Hispanics/etc. are
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sovereign.
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One thing that newspaper article pointed out was the fact that the
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U.S. government doesn't respect or recognize the rights of the
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sovereign Alaskans. It challenges them every chance it gets, and only
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backs off if the sovereign Alaskans defend their rights. It also
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pointed out that in the face of this government opposition, many of
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the sovereigns choose to waive certain rights in return for the
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government's recognition of others, as though the hassle of defending
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all their rights wasn't worth it. So, it seems to be understood that
|
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certain people have certain rights, that the government violates them,
|
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and that some people will give up rights that everyone knows they have
|
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just because defending them seems to be a "hassle". Isn't that
|
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interesting? As the Supreme Court has said, rights will only be
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afforded the belligerent claimant in person. And they can only be
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maintained through "sustained combat". Do you think the newly "free"
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Russians and other Eastern European peoples will be allowed to have
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their rights, or will they too be "subjected" under some alien
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commercial jurisdiction controlled from London and Zurich? Like the
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World Bank??
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91Oct13 6:08 pm from mad mooney @ Garbanzo
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My FOG Index program rates the original Constitution with the first 10
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amendments (Bill of Rights) as being at a 17.9 grade reading level. After
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I added the next 16 pseudo-amendments, it dropped to 16.9. Just for a
|
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reference, the Magna Carta came out at 15.0 (although it's MUCH harder
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to read in reality, I think, but the program can't make allowances for
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all the grammer differences for a document with the middle english style).
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91Oct13 10:04 pm from frog farmer @ Garbanzo
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Hey Mooney! I noticed that your program says that the Constitution
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and Magna Carta require a grade level significantly higher than most
|
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people possess in order to be understood. Does this tend to explain why
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the United States has the highest percentage of its people incarcerated
|
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of all the countries in the entire world? Or does it tend to show the
|
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relative efficiency of our educational systems?
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What grade level is required in order to expect a person to be able
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to program a VCR? I've heard that the majority of VCR owners cannot
|
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program their machines to record a future television broadcast. Does
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this mean that we who can read, write, and understand English will
|
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become the new elite?
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b0b>) Wasn't it Reagan who admitted that he couldn't figure out how to program
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his VCR? Or was it Bush? Anyway, I think that's pathetic. In our house,
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we have a VCR programming specialist. Mrs. b0b has a high school education,
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with a weakness in math, but she was able to master the VCR from reading the
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manual.<<
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We (you & I & Mrs. b0b) are lucky enough to be from the time when
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they used to hold you back a grade if you couldn't do the schoolwork.
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And that motivated most of our generation(s?) to apply ourselves, study, and
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pass. But today, students are advanced to the next grade even though
|
|
they cannot do the work. This past weekend, I encountered a fourth
|
|
grader who needed his father to tell him what the labels on some
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|
cassettes said. He could not read them. This same youngster then went
|
|
on to tell us how he had learned in school that wood could melt if left
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|
in the sunlight. I asked him where he had picked up that piece of
|
|
misinformation, and he said he learned that in the third grade.
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b0b>> I think the real problem is that many Americans never learned to follow
|
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directions. Mrs. b0b learned by sewing from patterns; I learned by building
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models. If our school system doesn't teach people how to "RTFM", how can we
|
|
expect Americans to learn to use the high-tech devices we love to create?
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I expect the great majority of Americans to become functionally
|
|
illiterate, as time goes on, and as as time goes on and the educated ones die
|
|
off, and to become a pool of uneducated unskilled labor for the emerging new
|
|
European economy, much as Mexicans functioned in the past for United States
|
|
businesses. The United States is already the world's largest debtor nation,
|
|
and is well on the way to achieving true "Third World" status.
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FF>> But today, students are advanced to the next grade even though they
|
|
cannot do the work.
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b0b>> Not true, FF. My nephew is repeating the fourth grade right now. He
|
|
didn't pass his tests, so they flunked him. Three of our four daughters
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|
received a very good education in the public schools here in Sonoma County,
|
|
and the fourth dropped out but later got her GED, which is a tough way to
|
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get that high school degree.<<
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Today at the gem show we met a Petaluma high school teacher of 15
|
|
years. She confirmed that they do pass kids who can't read, because they can
|
|
only hold them back a year or two - after that the older kids pose too much
|
|
of a physical threat to the younger students. It was her opinion that many
|
|
of today's students had brain damage caused by the drugs the mother was
|
|
taking while pregnant. She said the "crack babies" are just beginning to
|
|
appear in the first grade now, and she anticipates things getting much worse
|
|
in the years to come.
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I'll tell you about some evidence of mass illiteracy (or maybe it's just
|
|
mass stupidity?) that I witnessed today. I was in traffic court in Santa
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Rosa this morning from 8:30 until 11:30 AM in order to witness a few
|
|
students trying out some new procedures (new to them). Many defendants
|
|
expressed the thought that while they were supposedly NOT GUILTY, they would
|
|
fork over anywhere from 20 to 50 FRNs just to avoid "hassle". At about 8:45,
|
|
the magistrate told one spunky individual who chose to plead "not guilty"
|
|
and have a trial that while he DID have the right to a speedy trial within
|
|
45 days, the court's calendar was full, and the soonest that a day could be
|
|
scheduled for a trial was AFTER the 45-day limit. The magistrate then asked
|
|
the man if he would waive his right to a speedy trial so that the trial
|
|
could be held. The man agreed to waive the right! If he had not done so,
|
|
he would have won by default, but here this guy that was motivated to plead
|
|
not guilty was so ignorant that he gave the government another chance to
|
|
convict him. What's worse is that at least 9 other persons waived their
|
|
right to a speedy trial after pleading "not guilty". And many others plead
|
|
guilty while also expressing the idea that they were really NOT GUILTY. So,
|
|
none of them were capable of understanding the ramifications of the full
|
|
court calendar. None of them understood the fact that if they had demanded
|
|
a trial that they would probably have won by default. And so, I watched as
|
|
the magistrate skillfully sheared over 12,000 frns and hundreds of hours of
|
|
"community service" from the bleating sheeple.
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|
|
|
One fellow in his 20's was there with his father. His "crime" was
|
|
speeding. He was given over 200 hours of work to perform. I invited them to
|
|
stay and witness what would happen to our students, whose "crimes" were even
|
|
more "serious" - driving without a license or registration. The magistrate
|
|
was saving our students for last so as not to have any witnesses who might
|
|
learn something. They even went to the extent of having the bailiff poll all
|
|
persons in the courtroom as to why they were there before calling the
|
|
students forward. The father & son stayed at my suggestion, and the bailiff
|
|
came over and asked them "what's wrong?" hoping that they would leave.
|
|
Because of their presence, the magistrate denied motions that had been
|
|
granted in other cases, and went so far as to lie about some supposed "case
|
|
law" that had changed since the last time the motions were used. He was
|
|
asked what the name of the case was, and what court it came out of, but he
|
|
could only say that he "read it somewhere". This didn't hurt the student's
|
|
cases, but it did go to persuade the father/son duo that we were wrong.
|
|
Outside the courtroom, we explained what had happened, and that indeed we
|
|
did have information that would lead to a dismissal of any case where there
|
|
was no victim. The father couldn't believe it, and asked why, if it was
|
|
true, didn't all the lawyers use the information to get their clients off
|
|
the hook. He asked why it wasn't popularized in the media. I guess he never
|
|
heard of the LAW ENFORCEMENT GROWTH INDUSTRY. Anyway, it seemed that the
|
|
paperwork necessary just to make the motion to quash was too much for this
|
|
father/son duo, even though it was only 4 pages. It seemed that the son
|
|
would rather spend 200 hours at some menial labor rather than disturb the
|
|
peaceful tranquility of his brain by trying to understand concepts that were
|
|
new to him that would require some thought and investigation on his part.
|
|
They declined our invitation to attend one of our study meetings. THe father
|
|
asked if our "group" had a "charter".
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91Nov04 10:33 pm from frog farmer @ Garbanzo
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Timechild>> Hey, friend, next time you (or one of your students) are
|
|
going to court about driving without license or registration, can you
|
|
let me know? It would be worth missing a class or two to watch those
|
|
methods in action. I have only been in a courtroom once (and under
|
|
unhappy, unenjoyable circumstances, at that) so it would be a good
|
|
experience as well as an educational one. I have a little fear of
|
|
courtrooms, since I have the suspicion that they might bring back bad
|
|
memories, but in any case... let me know...
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|
|
|
Hey, friend, my days of going to court over the license issue are
|
|
over - I won that issue 3 times years ago, and they just don't bother me
|
|
over it anymore. Since then, when I am accosted by a police officer and
|
|
hassled for not having a license, something in what I say and do makes
|
|
them let me go without writing a ticket.
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|
|
|
You say it would be worth it to miss a class or two to watch what
|
|
happens in the courtroom. I don't think so. Here's why: when the judge
|
|
sees that a crowd has gathered to watch what is going on, he will
|
|
invariably rule against the defendant, even if his ruling creates a
|
|
reversible error, rather than let the audience see our procedures work.
|
|
This doesn't really hurt our case, but it leaves the wrong impression
|
|
with the audience, who may not understand and who may think that the
|
|
defendant "lost" and that indeed you DO need a license, which is what
|
|
the judge is hoping the audience will think. This happened last time.
|
|
They scheduled our guys for 8:30 A.M but then they made them wait until
|
|
11:30 while they tried to empty out the courtroom by taking everyone
|
|
else first, even those who were sheduled later than 8:30. Finally,
|
|
everyone had been dealt with, yet there were still about 15 people in
|
|
the gallery. THe judge had the bailiff personally go to each person and
|
|
ask why they were there! They wanted no witnesses for what was going to
|
|
occur. I asked a man and his son (who was just sentenced to 200 hours of
|
|
slave labor, so-called "volunteer work") to stay and watch, in the hopes
|
|
that they would learn that there was an alternative. The judge appeared
|
|
disturbed that they remained, and the bailiff came over to them asking
|
|
"Is there some kind of a problem?" Finally, they couldn't stall any
|
|
longer and they called on the two remaining defendants, who just
|
|
coincidentally were the ONLY defendants all day to have filed any
|
|
paperwork with the court, and who NOT COINCIDENTALLY FILED THE EXACT
|
|
SAME PAPERWORK. Their papers challenged the jurisdiction of the court
|
|
to even hear the case without there being a formal complaint filed. The
|
|
judge (really not a judge, but a magistrate) ruled against them both,
|
|
claiming that there was "case law" that effectively overturned the laws
|
|
our guys were relying upon. When asked just what that case was, the
|
|
judge said that he couldn't remember, but he knew there was such a case
|
|
because he "remembered reading it somewhere". So he set another court
|
|
date for our friends to appear again.
|
|
|
|
The man and his son appeared disgusted, having believed that our
|
|
strategy "didn't work", while we all knew that the magistrate was lying
|
|
just for their benefit. This was confirmed several days later when the
|
|
magistrate, attempting to back up his actions, provided us with two
|
|
cases which he contended upheld his position that no complaint was
|
|
necessary. What he produced were the two exact cases we relied upon to
|
|
prove that one WAS NECESSARY. He was intentionally mistating and
|
|
misinterpreting the cases, which was great for us, since appeals courts
|
|
know how to read a little better than traffic magistrates. But the
|
|
point is that the man and his son thought we were the losers, because
|
|
when we didn't "win" right there in front of them, they went off and
|
|
didn't want to hear anymore of what we have to say.
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This is probably what would happen if you took off from school to see
|
|
a court appearance with us. I'd tell you that it was at 8:30, and you'd
|
|
get frustrated and tired and probably not be willing to stay until 11:30
|
|
or even past lunch until 1:30 to see what happened. And even if you did
|
|
stay, without being familiar with the issues and the paperwork, what
|
|
happened in the court would probably not make much sense to you, since
|
|
there is very little talking and the whole thing is usually over within
|
|
5 or 10 minutes, most of it being based upon paperwork previously filed
|
|
with the court. And then there would probably be another hearing
|
|
scheduled. In one of my cases, there were 9 attempted arraignments
|
|
before a plea was even entered!
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Now, if you are really interested in learning something, you should
|
|
buy a few books and READ the pertinent parts. You should get a
|
|
paperback copy (West's Annotated Editions) of CALIFORNIA RULES OF COURT,
|
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CALIFORNIA CODE OF CIVIL PROCEDURE, CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE, CALIFORNIA
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EVIDENCE CODE, CALIFORNIA & U.S. CONSTITUTIONS, MAGNA CARTA, &
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CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE. You can get the Constitutions & Magna Carta in
|
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one book free from your assemblyman's office in the State building in
|
|
downtown Santa Rosa. You can get the Vehicle code for 3 bux at the DMV.
|
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After you get the books, you can come here with any questions you might have.
|
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As soon as I see that you are serious, I'd invite you to one of the private
|
|
study group meetings we have, and you'd be prepared to go into the court
|
|
without fear. FEAR = False Evidence Appearing Real.
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FF sez:
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>> Anyone serious about defending their right has to be ready to appeal
|
|
to a higher court if ruled against in the lower courts. Those who do
|
|
appeal these prosecutions tend to have the cases against them dismissed,
|
|
so there is no record to show up in the legal journals. <<
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|
And Somebody (??) replied:
|
|
>Surely you jest. The courts of appeal reverse a small minority of
|
|
>cases, regardless of merits. And, the routine denials of appeal
|
|
>never gets published, whereas its the dismissals that would get some
|
|
>attention, merely by virtue of the appeal being seriously considered.
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|
|
Frog Farmer further clarifies:
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I did not mean that the APPEAL WAS DISMISSED, I meant that the
|
|
original charges against the defendant are dismissed. I would have
|
|
never believed this to have been the case unless I saw it personally
|
|
happen to me in my case. There are a lot of appeals that are made that
|
|
are never heard, because hearing them would create case law that might
|
|
get reported, yet they are not dismissed because they were done
|
|
properly. So what happens? - the government throws in the towel and the
|
|
lower court "dismisses the charges" as though the whole thing had never
|
|
happened. There are no records of these occurances. They make the
|
|
appeal moot.
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|
|
Clifford Johnson>> ... so let me point something out. Typically, after
|
|
every suit, the losing party has a right to appeal _as_of_ right_ to the
|
|
court of appeals. There is no "denial of appeal" (although, if the
|
|
appeal is clearly without merit, it can be dismissed as frivolous, and
|
|
the lawyer sanctioned). Further appeal (e.g., to the Supreme Court),
|
|
requires a party to petition the Court to here his case; this is a
|
|
petition for "certiorari". If the Court grants certiorari, the court
|
|
hears the case. The failure of the court to grant cert does not mean it
|
|
agrees with the lower court, only that it does not want to hear the
|
|
case. Maybe it thinks the time for that issue is not now, maybe it just
|
|
can't fit it into the docket.<<
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And maybe, more likely, it was disqualified according to the
|
|
Ashwander rules.
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**
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|
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[You'll want to clean this one up before printing it out and using it. It
|
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can be a very useful little tool.]
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P U B L I C S E R V A N T ' S Q U E S T I O N A I R E
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|
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Public Law 93-579 states in part: "The purpose of this Act is to provide
|
|
certain safeguards for an individual against invasion of personal privacy by
|
|
requiring Federal agencies...to permit and individual to determine what
|
|
records pertaining to him are collected, maintained, used, or disseminated by
|
|
such agencies."
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|
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The following questions are based upon that act and are necessary in order
|
|
that this individual may make a reasonable determination concerning divulgence
|
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of information to this agency.
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1. Name of public servant...............
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2. Residence......City.....State......Zip......
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3. Name of department, bureau, or agency by which public servant
|
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is employed........supervisor's name......
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4. It's mailing address...........City......State....Zip......
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5. Will public servant uphold the Constitution of the United States?
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6. Did public servant furnish proof of identity?
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7. What was the nature of proof?..............
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8. Will public servant furnish a copy of the law or regulation which
|
|
authorizes this investigation?
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9. Will the public servant read aloud that portion of the law authorizing
|
|
the questions he will ask?
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10. Are the answers to the questions voluntary or mandatory?
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11. Are the questions to be asked based upon a specific law or regulation,
|
|
or are they being used as a discovery process?
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12. What other uses may be made of this information?
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13. What other agencies may have access to this information?
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14. What will be the effect upon me if I should choose not to answer
|
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any part or all of these questions?
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15. Name of person in government requesting that this investigation be
|
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made...............
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16. Is this investigation 'general' or is it 'special'?
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17. Have you consulted, questioned, interviewed, or received information
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from any third party relative to this investigation?
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18. If so, the identity of such third parties..........
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19. Do you reasonably anticipate either a civil or criminal action to be
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initiated or pursued based upon any of the information which you seek?
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20. Is there a file of records, information, or correspondence relating to
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me being maintained by this agency? If yes, which?
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21. Is this agency using any information pertaining to me which was
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supplied by another agency or government source?
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22. May I have a copy of that information?
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23. Will the public servant guarantee that the information in these files
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will not be used by any other department other than the one by whom he
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is employed? If not, why not?
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If any request for information relating to me is received from any
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person or agency, you must advise me in writing before releasing such
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information. Failure to do so may subject you to possible civil or
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criminal action as provided by the act.
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I swear (affirm) that the answers I have given to the foregoing
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questions are complete and correct in every particular. ___________
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Date: ____/_____ Witness:____________ Witness:_______________
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Authorities for Questions:
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1,2,3,4 In order to be sure you know exactly who you are giving the
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information to. Residence and business addresses are needed in case
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you need to serve process in a civil or criminal action upon this
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individual.
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5 All public servants have taken a sworn oath to uphold and
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defend the constitution.
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6,7 This is standard procedure by government agents and
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officers. See Internal Revenue Manual, MT-9900-26, Section 242.133.
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8,9,10 Title 5 USC 552a, paragraph (e) (3) (A)
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11 Title 5 USC 552a, paragraph (d) (5), (e) (1)
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12,13 Title 5 USC 552a, paragraph (e) (3) (B), (e) (3) (C)
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14 Title 5 USC 552a, paragraph (e) (3) (D)
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15 Public Law 93-579 (b) (1)
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16 Title 5 USC 552a, paragraph (e) (3) (A)
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17,18 Title 5 USC 552a, paragraph (e) (2)
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19 Title 5 USC 552a, paragraph (d) (5)
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20,21 Public Law 93-579 (b) (1)
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22 Title 5 USC 552a, paragraph (d) (1)
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23 Title 5 USC 552a, paragraph (e) (10)
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**
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Administrivia: Famous Pagans in the Patriot Community Revealed!
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(Stolen from Tom Jennings' "Famous Homosexuals in Fidonet Revealed!". Thank
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you, Tom, for providing the only BBS software I could find for my dad's DEC
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Rainbow 100+ "way back" in 1983, and helping (along with other sources) to
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introduce me to the vast electronic networks outside my local area code...)
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Freshly back from vacation, your humble moderator is about as refreshed and
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relaxed as is possible. Four days off in the woods, no hot showers (ice-cold
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water being the Great Equalizer of all males), full of such sanity-saving
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elements as beating the hell out of big drums and falling in love/lust with a
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good friend (stressful, unrequited, but definitely not a problem for anyone
|
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involved, and still more enjoyable than not...). Yes, the horrible truth is
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out; your humble, self-proclaimed atheist/objectivist/etc moderator is a
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"pagan"! Gadzooks! Is nothing sacred?
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Well, to be totally accurate, a pagan is anything that's not a Christian. Hmm.
|
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George Gordon devotes a bit of explanation somewhere to why he doesn't refer
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to himself as a Christian, since supposedly, Christ's followers didn't call
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themselves Christians, but Christ's enemies did. Perhaps an interesting side
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topic; perhaps not. In any case, yes, I'm most decidedly atheist, and have
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been ever since I was introduced to the concept of "god(s)". Insofar as the
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"festivals" are concerned, I enjoy the company of the friends from my town who
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usually go as well, and a vacation's a vacation; some people like to strap
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sticks on their feet and go sliding down dangerous mountaintops, I like to
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beat on a piece of wood and animal skin for hours on end. Despite the
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collectivist mindset that can prevail among most folks of a Leftish bent, and
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despite the "tribal", mind-numbing effect that mass hypnotic drumming has, I
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still do it. I find it very relaxing, and it doesn't change my philosophical
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beliefs at all, and that's all that matters.
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During my intellectual "coming-out" during high school, most of the more
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open-minded and tolerant people I met were of the pagan (read: Wiccan or
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related) persuasion, and a good deal of my friends still are. I've learned, of
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course, that prejudice and ignorance are everywhere, but on the whole, the
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|
majority of the pagan community would be less opposed to the concept of
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individual sovereignty than most, if they could work past their underlying
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collectivist premises. (This is one thing that I particularly notice these
|
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days; I seem to automatically analyze everything I hear "in the background",
|
|
and try to extrapolate the underlying philosophical beliefs that drive the
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convictions the person is stating. And it's easy to see the contradictions in
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most of the statements people make.) In any event, other people's religious
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beliefs don't bother me one bit, unless they're used as a rationalization for
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the initiation of force.
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An example of other contradictory religious folks is John Redelfs, moderator
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of ACT's mailing list (act-request@bolis.sf-bay.org to subscribe, I think;
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|
devoted to traditional CFR and Trilateralist world-views) posted an article
|
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to alt.conspiracy recently explaining his "Principles of Liberty", which
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stated, among other things, that belief in God was a prerequisite for
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Natural Law and Rights. And this is a view I disagree with. But I also don't
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believe that a sense of "religiousness" necessarily makes someone a bad
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person. I'm going on record here to recommend that he read James Donald's
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essay on Natural Law and Rights. (If anyone ever gets sick of hearing me
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plug this, feel free to speak up; even though it probably won't stop me,
|
|
it's nice to have feedback... ;) The more relevant negative aspect I find on
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the act list is the expressed yearning of some of the members for "a modern
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George Washington" to rally them all around.. something, I guess. I quietly
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make changes in my own life, and spread this junk around, and hope that some
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people find it of value, and perhaps of use.
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As a just-for-fun exercise, I'm in the process of writing up a sample brief a
|
|
la Gordon for claiming the right to free speech without any "religious basis".
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Gordon, Bruce McCarthy, et al., all use this odd mixture of ecclesiastical and
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Biblical references in with their legal citations, all of which I see as
|
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unnecessary; ALL persons who are capable of exercising and defending Rights,
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already possess those rights. Religious freedom is a good issue, but there are
|
|
better ones, and I contend that the right to freedom of religion must also
|
|
necessarily equate to freedom FROM religion! The 1st Amendment's original
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|
intent was to protect "freedom of conscience" -- the power of free will; to
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decide, and accept the consequences of your decision -- in essence, as many
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modern-day self-proclaimed pagans would put it, "to do what thou wilt, an
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['as long as'] it harm none". I've actually been working on this brief for
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|
over two years now, and still haven't shown it to anyone; obviously, this is
|
|
not good! These things should be used, not gather dust. So I'm attempting to
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get myself jump-started enough to at least get it into presentable form, and
|
|
should get it here Real Soon Now.
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Enough babbling about me; it's time for some real mailing list news. (My
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|
mailbox had SIXTY-TWO (62) new messages in it! PLUS I had to grab the last
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|
four days' worth of Libernet[-D] Digests, and then read my newsgroups of
|
|
choice (pared down to 18, two of which see posts less than .4 times per blue
|
|
moon). Maybe it's time to get a life (or at least start logging on less
|
|
often). This installment, incidentally, is the largest one so far, but this
|
|
can easily be explained by noting the presence of the DnA article. I'd
|
|
really appreciate getting some comments at this point on your opinions of
|
|
the overall quality of the list; as a matter of fact, what would be great is
|
|
to have you send "ratings" from 1 to 10 on each individual article in all
|
|
the installments that you've had time to read and formulate an opinion on,
|
|
as well as whatever comments you have (like "too technical!". I'll ignore
|
|
any complaints about spelling and/or grammar unless A) I wrote the item in
|
|
question, and B) your complaint actually has some merit. ;)
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How You Can Post To Usenet By E-Mail: There are other services available
|
|
(including the much-discussed anonymous servers), but the one I primarily use
|
|
is at the University of Texas. You post by sending mail to the group name
|
|
@cs.utexas.edu, replacing the dots in the group name with hyphens, i.e.,
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|
alt-society-sovereign@cs.utexas.edu
|
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|
Don't forget to use an appropriate Subject: line. Note that this method
|
|
precludes posting to groups with hyphens in their names, so if you have a
|
|
burning need to post to a group meeting this criterion, try either
|
|
pws.bull.com or news.cs.indiana.edu. Here, you can type the exact name of
|
|
the group instead of converting periods to hyphens, as in
|
|
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|
alt.sex.kibo.bite-me@pws.bull.com
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|
alt.farce.kibo.bad-actors.charging-elephants@news.cs.indiana.edu
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|
|
Note that I haven't tried either of these latter two sites in quite a while.
|
|
If you make sure to keep all the header lines together, you should be able
|
|
to use your text editor to add header lines or modify existing ones, such
|
|
as adding newsgroups to the Newsgroups: line (but try not to get carried
|
|
away... ;)
|
|
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|
|
|
A subscriber suggested another actual question for the FAQ. I think it's an
|
|
excellent one, and here's my rough draft for the answer.
|
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|
QUESTION: "What does FrogFarmer advise that I should do (or not do) if I am
|
|
arrested? What cases should I cite? What rights should I demand? What
|
|
shouldn't I say?"
|
|
|
|
ANSWER: An answer to these questions might be construed as legal advice. The
|
|
Frog Farm does not provide legal advice, nor do any of its participants, who
|
|
merely speak from their own experience and knowledge.
|
|
|
|
However, it is possible to be less cryptic than this.
|
|
|
|
There is far too much material under this heading to fit here, unless
|
|
condensed greatly. An example might be:
|
|
|
|
- Learn how to read and comprehend a percentage of the English language,
|
|
as described earlier in this FAQ.
|
|
|
|
- Obtain the relevant law books (your state's Code of Civil Procedure, Penal
|
|
Code, Rules of Court and Evidence Code, or the appropriate federal books
|
|
for a federal case) and read the relevant sections.
|
|
|
|
- Type up and send Constructive Notices and Notice of Dishonor within 3 days
|
|
of receiving your ticket or being arrested.
|
|
|
|
- Type up subpoenas for all arresting officers and the person who signed the
|
|
complaint and schedule a motion hearing where you will make a Motion To
|
|
Quash the Summons, at which time you obtain your depositions from the
|
|
arresting officer.
|
|
|
|
You should prepare your list of questions to ask the witnesses when you have
|
|
them on the stand at the motion hearing. Their answers will cause the judge to
|
|
dismiss the charges, if your questions are the right ones. Your questions have
|
|
to be based upon the codes, and the answers will go to show that the
|
|
procedures followed by the police were all invalid and that the persons you
|
|
subpoenaed are all guilty of perjury. The beauty of it is that you don't even
|
|
have to testify yourself, and the cops are so uneducated in law that they will
|
|
not even know that they are convicting themselves out of their own mouths.
|
|
|
|
However, this ONLY WORKS when there is no VICTIM or INJURED PARTY. It also
|
|
only works when you UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HECK YOU ARE DOING, and are prepared
|
|
to FOLLOW THROUGH to the utmost (see Wisconsin v. Yoder, summarized below). We
|
|
will assume that these two conditions are true, for the purposes of this
|
|
answer.
|
|
|
|
Every arrest, detention, stop and confrontation with government officials is
|
|
different, and it is impossible to imagine (in order to pretend) all the
|
|
different things that might be said, and when. Each and every situation is
|
|
unique, and this is why the question cannot be answered. However, a general
|
|
consensus has developed, which can be summarized relatively easily as follows:
|
|
|
|
-:- Never ask, "Am I under arrest?"; rather, always ask, "Am I free to go?".
|
|
An arrest is a certain procedure that must meet certain criteria in order
|
|
to be done lawfully. You should not "help out" with your own arrest by
|
|
merely leaving it up to them to say "Yes", but force those responsible
|
|
to go through all of the due process you demand.
|
|
|
|
-:- Don't hassle people about your rights. Respect their point of view, and
|
|
where they let you, educate them about the law. Make your demands with a
|
|
quiet voice and a friendly smile. If someone is insensitive about your
|
|
rights, have the patience to wait until you get to the court room to
|
|
reclaim them. Always be friendly, regardless of how they treat you...
|
|
you'll get even in the courtroom. It can be very risky to their financial
|
|
health to ignore or abuse your rights. But it can just as easily be risky
|
|
to your physical health if you ignore or abuse their overly inflated sense
|
|
of importance. There's no sense in taunting bulls; just wait for them to
|
|
get out of breath charging around before sticking it to 'em.
|
|
|
|
-:- Before asking if you are free to go, try to ascertain just who it is who
|
|
is accosting you by asking their identity. If the answer is that it's a
|
|
government agent of some kind, ask if they will fully identify themselves.
|
|
The answer is usually "yes", so pull out your PUBLIC SERVANT QUESTIONAIRE
|
|
(included elsewhere in this installment) and ask them to kindly fill it
|
|
out. They will usually decline, so offer to fill it out for them if they
|
|
will answer the questions. If they refuse, inform them that their refusal
|
|
to fully identify themselves and cooperate in your investigation will be
|
|
reported to their superior, and suggest at that time that they call for
|
|
back-up for several reasons:
|
|
|
|
1) They have violated your right to the requested information
|
|
2) They have proven themselves incompetent to understand the law
|
|
3) You now have reason to doubt whatever they say regarding their
|
|
being an officer of the law (they could be a highway robber,
|
|
trying to get you to drop your guard). If they can manage to get a
|
|
few more people in police cars to the scene, you can probably rule
|
|
out their being a robber in costume.
|
|
|
|
When the superior officer arrives, go through the whole thing again. If
|
|
things get nasty, you could demand their probable cause for believing you
|
|
guilty of committing a crime, and demand a 4th amendment warrant and
|
|
counsel present before you answer any in-custody interrogation. This
|
|
would invoke the exclusionary rule.
|
|
|
|
-:- Carry copies of Davis v. Mississippi, 394 U.S. 721, to make sure they've
|
|
all been informed regarding the fact that your fingerprints are private
|
|
property which cannot be taken over your objection without a valid court
|
|
order.
|
|
|
|
-:- Don't refuse their offer of "counsel" straight off. It can be useful to
|
|
get the counsel to refuse to help you on their own, or you can fire them
|
|
in open court for refusing to obey your instructions, or for attempting to
|
|
waive any of your rights, like the right to a speedy trial. Always make it
|
|
clear that they are not representing you, but merely serving as counsel.
|
|
|
|
When you finally do go to court, make friends with the clerk by conforming as
|
|
much as possible to the clerk's demands for format, timeliness, etc. (provided
|
|
that you don't give up any significant rights in the process). Respect the
|
|
legal maxim, "The law does not bother with trifles."
|
|
|
|
Don't necessarily exact the Shakespearian pound of flesh. Like the government
|
|
courts, you can put abusers on probation. They then know that when you could
|
|
have put them in jail for their "white collar" offenses, you didn't. When
|
|
dealing with errant public officials, you can refer to those situations, and
|
|
let them know that although you were easy then, they shouldn't push their luck
|
|
now. :-)
|
|
|
|
But the most important thing is attitude. If you're a free person, if you've
|
|
rescinded all contracts with government, then act like it. Exercise your
|
|
rights, and when necessary, defend them as passionately as you exercise them.
|
|
|
|
A relevant case is Wisconsin v. Yoder, 406 U.S. 205 (1972), which established
|
|
the tests necessary to distinguish a belief based on CONVICTION rather than
|
|
PREFERENCE. The importance of the distinction is that according to the Court's
|
|
decision, only CONVICTIONS are protected by the Constitution. The test
|
|
consists of five major circumstances you must maintain your belief in the face
|
|
of, which are:
|
|
|
|
1) Peer pressure
|
|
2) Family pressure
|
|
3) Threat of lawsuit
|
|
4) Threat of jail
|
|
5) Threat of death
|
|
|
|
So one must be smart enough to understand all the responsibilities involved in
|
|
having sovereign status, and maintain one's beliefs in the face of all
|
|
opposition. Otherwise the court will view your stance as a convenient excuse
|
|
(preference) to get out of the "legal duties" incurred by subjects ("income
|
|
tax", "license fees", etc) -- i.e., they will assume you are lying, and that
|
|
you really ARE a sheeple, one who is subject to their jurisdiction.
|
|
|
|
[end of proposed FAQ addition]
|
|
|
|
(So how's that, everyone? Please, comment.)
|
|
|
|
|
|
I was also asked, "Shouldn't all the case citations on the FAQ and elsewhere
|
|
on the distribution list contain the YEAR of the decision, not just its book
|
|
and page number?"
|
|
|
|
It would probably be a Good Thing, yes. I have made the provided citations as
|
|
complete as possible through my own research, but a great deal of them have
|
|
not been checked. Any misattributions should be fixed, so if you spot any, let
|
|
me know so I can fix it ASAP.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Finally: Yes, you read the headline way back there correctly -- we have an
|
|
ACTUAL SUBMISSION! I'm posting this anonymously because I don't know if the
|
|
subscriber who sent it intended it to be as such, even though it's merely
|
|
forwarded from Libernet (and therefore, some of you have seen it already). So
|
|
in the future, please let me know if you want your submissions to be
|
|
attributed to you when they're posted.
|
|
|
|
Here it is:
|
|
|
|
>From: kone@COURIER1.SHA.CORNELL.EDU
|
|
Subject: The Empire's serfs revolt?
|
|
To: Libernet@Dartmouth.EDU
|
|
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 10:54:00 -0400
|
|
|
|
Here is another New York update, pulled off the UPI wire today the 16th.
|
|
"Albany - A lawsuit with potentially serious implications for the New York
|
|
State Government is back on track after an appellate Court ruling today.
|
|
Gadfly Robert Schulz of Glens Falls is suing New York over the way the
|
|
government borrows money. The Appellate Division of State Supreme Court had
|
|
thrown out the action, saying Schulz had NO grounds to sue. But the Court of
|
|
Appeals overturned that ruling, and the mid-level Court today formally said
|
|
his case can proceed.
|
|
If successful, Schulz's latest lawsuit could threaten million's of dollars
|
|
in State spending. Schulz claims officals violated the State Constitution by
|
|
NOT getting voter's permission to sell bonds."
|
|
|
|
Mr. Schulz has filed over 30 suits as a common citizen in the last 15 years.
|
|
He has no law training other than personal experince, and is now trying to
|
|
form a state wide "All Countys Taxpayers Union" to take local goverments to
|
|
court over constitutional violations. ACT-U has formed in over 60% of the
|
|
counties in New York, and is chalenging the lack of voteing on School budgets
|
|
in small cities.
|
|
Mr. Schulz was first told that his suit agianst the New York government over
|
|
the sale of state property to other governmental agencys, had no bases. It
|
|
seems that tax-payers can not question the spending of elected officals. Mr.
|
|
Schulz replied something along the lines of "I am not suing as a taxpayer, but
|
|
as a voter." Well it turns out that voters do have the right to defend the
|
|
constitution.
|
|
If you would like more on Mr. Schulz, Email this address.
|
|
William Kone Kone@courier1.sha.cornell.edu
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|
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither
|
|
restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.---Thomas Jefferson
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----- End Included Message -----
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----- Begin Included Message -----
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>From: kone@courier1.sha.cornell.edu
|
|
Subject: more on Mr. Schulz
|
|
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 18:05:00 -0400
|
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|
|
Well here is more on ACTA, the group formed by Mr. Schulz. I will post the
|
|
entire flyer on Libernet.
|
|
|
|
The Address is ACTA,
|
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Box 177, Star Route
|
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Glens Falls, NY 12801
|
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(518)-656-3578
|
|
|
|
"ACTA'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE: ACTA's motto is "Deeds, not Words." That's
|
|
why we believe in fighting government wrongdoing in court as advocates, rather
|
|
than on the courthouse steps as protesters. ACTA has become so effective,
|
|
that Government officals tried to get Robert Schulz - ACTA's founder - barred
|
|
from court for life! Fortunately, they failed.
|
|
Government wrongdoing poses a greater threat to our freedom and our way of
|
|
life than all the petty crooks and white-collar criminals combined. For
|
|
ecample, in New York it's unconstitutional to spend public money to benefit
|
|
private intrests, but it happens all the time because nobody challenges it.
|
|
More money is taken illegally on a single day by state and local government
|
|
than by all the pick pockets and con-artists in a lifetime. ACTA is
|
|
determined to stop this.
|
|
Every citizen has the right to take their government to court "pro-se"
|
|
(without an attorney). ACTA has proven that ordinary citizens can challenge
|
|
their government in court and win. We encourage every citizen to stand
|
|
"eternally vigialnt' and, when necessary, go to court to protect our freedmos,
|
|
and stop government misdeeds and wrongdoings. As an ACTA member, you will not
|
|
be alone."
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William Kone
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And that's it for installment #11.
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Be seeing you...
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