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Computer underground Digest Sun Jun 21, 1998 Volume 10 : Issue 34
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ISSN 1004-042X
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Editor: Jim Thomas (cudigest@sun.soci.niu.edu)
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News Editor: Gordon Meyer (gmeyer@sun.soci.niu.edu)
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Archivist: Brendan Kehoe
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Shadow Master: Stanton McCandlish
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Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth
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Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala
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Ian Dickinson
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Field Agent Extraordinaire: David Smith
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Cu Digest Homepage: http://www.soci.niu.edu/~cudigest
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CONTENTS, #10.34 (Sun, Jun 21, 1998)
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File 1--Microsoft: Tailoring the Web for Profit
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File 2--SLAC Bulletin for June 1, 1998
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File 3--Compuserve, Germany, and porn
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File 4--Blitzkrieg server computer virus, part III
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File 5--ICQ Fans Rage Against AOL
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File 6--GLAAD response to AFA.net being blocked
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File 7--FRC comments on Cyber Patrol's block of AFA.net (fwd)
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File 8--Re: technical solutions to spam problem
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File 9--Re: technical solutions to spam problem
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File 10--Re: technical solutions to spam problem
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File 11--Scientology And Free Speech
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File 12--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 25 Apr, 1998)
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CuD ADMINISTRATIVE, EDITORIAL, AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION ApPEARS IN
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THE CONCLUDING FILE AT THE END OF EACH ISSUE.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 14:05:34 -0400
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From: Bruce Umbaugh <bumbaugh@well.com>
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Subject: File 1--Microsoft: Tailoring the Web for Profit
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Tailoring the Web for profit
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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Monday, June 15, 1998, page B7
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By Bruce Umbaugh
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Should consumers root for Uncle Sam and his allies in their antitrust suits
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against Microsoft? Or are Uncle Sam and company just a bunch of nags trying
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to stop Microsoft from exercising good business sense and technological
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innovation?
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I will tell you flatly: I don't know.
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But I don't think it matters especially. While the government is focused on
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one set of Microsoft activities, related to its Internet Explorer
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browser, I'm focused on another set of activities, related to something I
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think is a lot more important. I'm watching television.
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Last year, Microsoft bought a new technology called WebTV. This
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product marries your television set to the World Wide Web, so while
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working on your computer, you can access the Cardinals game, live, on
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your monitor. Alternatively, while watching the Cardinals on TV, you can
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click on an icon on your screen and call up things such as player
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statistics or the team's schedule.
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According to the company propaganda, this product "gives viewers a
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greater level of interaction with their televisions." It is another example
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of Microsoft's leadership and innovation (even though Microsoft didn't
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develop WebTV, it only bought it). It is a world beater.
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All of this may be true. But that doesn't make it good. In fact,
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WebTV is evil.
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That's because WebTV doesn't show you the whole Web. You might
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want to find out how Mark McGwire's slugging percentage in May
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compared with Babe Ruth's in his best months ever, but you won't find it
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unless some sponsor has paid Microsoft for the privilege of bringing it
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to you. So more likely, you'll be restricted to basic sites that give you
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the things sponsors want you to know: the Cardinals' schedule, Southwest
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Airlines' schedule, the history of Budweiser.
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In other words, there's a little Bill Gates inside your tube requiring a
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toll from others to steer you to their Web site. So your access is
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restricted. And you may even have to watch a commercial for Budweiser
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before you can get at the Cardinals' batting averages.
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Similarly, if you are watching through your computer, WebTV presents
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as options only the few sites or channels that have paid Microsoft for the
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privilege. So you may get the Cardinals but not the Angels. Or, more
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troubling, the Angels but not the Cardinals.
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That's one set of problems. Your "downstream" choices - whether
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through your TV or your computer - are more limited than they are now
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when you just sit down at the computer and start surfing.
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Problem two is your "upstream" choices - your ability to communicate
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back through your TV/computer. Currently, your ability to communicate
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upstream is unlimited. You can set up a home page and tell the world
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whatever you want. And the whole world can reply directly to you.
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This makes the Web the most democratic communications medium
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ever, as the U.S. Court of Appeals noted in its 1996 ruling on the
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Communications Decency Act. The Web is a many-to-many medium,
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with extremely low barriers to entry.
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But democracy does not guarantee profits, and that's been part of the
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problem with the Web for corporate America. Profits roll in when you
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can start controlling things. And that's why WebTV really is a
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world-beater, at least for Microsoft.
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Through WebTV, the many-to-many communications character of the
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Web is lost, in favor of a broadcasting, one-to-many model. The Web
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comes under the centralized control of a company that programs what
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you see, whether that be Web sites or TV channels. It permits you to
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respond only in limited ways that are of interest to the sponsors paying
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the freight.
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The primary way is by saying, "Show me this" and "I'll buy that." WebTV
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upstream communications is chiefly responding to home shopping
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opportunities.
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So people who used to be able to communicate with the whole world
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through their personal computers will now hook into WebTV and find
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they can order products from certain companies. And that's about it.
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For Microsoft, it's a brilliant answer to two problems: how to
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commercialize the Web, and how to deal with the possibility that people
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will get tired of buying new innovations, such as Windows 98, for their
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operating systems. Through WebTV, Microsoft pulls out of its hat a
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rabbit in a mink coat. It gets to put its hands around the long green of TV
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and Hollywood money. Bill Gates, meet Oprah.
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Assuming all this is allowed to happen, it's not to say that the Web won't
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still be there. It will, and people will still be able to use it. But the
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concern is that people will be much less inclined to pay for and use the
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Web once they have access to simple, easy-to-use WebTV, coming right at
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them through their televisions or their personal computers.
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And who is to protest? Certainly not the computer manufacturers: They don't
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make any money off the Web anyway, and Microsoft is offering them a subsidy
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- a discount on the license to install Windows 98 if they also install the
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equipment for WebTV. Certainly not the television and movie industries:
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It's another medium through which they can reach you.
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So it's up to consumers like us, and the government that represents us.
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It's up to us to prevent what has been history's most democratic medium
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from being trivialized and demeaned. It's up to us to keep the Web from
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going down the same path as TV itself.
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Copyright 1998, Bruce Umbaugh
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This document lives on the Web at
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http://www.webster.edu/~bumbaugh/net/tailorweb.html
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:12:14 -0400 (EDT)
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From: jw@bway.net
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Subject: File 2--SLAC Bulletin for June 1, 1998
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SLAC Bulletin, June 1, 1998
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The SLAC Bulletin is a low-volume mailer (1-5 messages per month)
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on Internet freedom of speech issues from Jonathan Wallace,
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co-author of Sex, Laws and Cyberspace (Henry Holt 1996) and
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publisher of The Ethical Spectacle (http://www.spectacle.org). To
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add or delete yourself:
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http://www.greenspun.com/spam/home.tcl?domain=SLAC
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Free Speech as a Tragedy of the Commons
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by Jonathan Wallace jw@bway.net
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Can free speech cause a tragedy of the commons? In other words,
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can there be too much speech?
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In the original parable of "The Tragedy of the Commons", each
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villager has the right to keep as many sheep as he wants on the
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commons shared by the village, and each has an incentive to add at
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least one more sheep. If everyone acts accordingly, the commons
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will be ruined. The author, Garrett Hardin, later said that he
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should have titled his work, "The Tragedy of the Unregulated
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Commons".
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Users of Usenet and unmoderated mailing lists experience a
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phenomenon which feels like a tragedy of the commons. Someone
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shriller and angrier than the average user begins posting an
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endless series of intemperate rants; soon more reasonable users
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unsubscribe from the group and the "polluter" is left alone.
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Is this really a tragedy of the commons? A public mailing list
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certainly feels like a "commons", available to everyone. If it is
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not policed by a list moderator, every user is free to add one
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more comment--one more insulting or intemperate posting--polluting
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the virtual commons as surely as the sheep pollute the real one.
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The analogy breaks down when we examine the list phenomenon more
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closely. A list is "push" technology: once you subscribe, all the
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messages arrive automatically; you do not do anything more to
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select or request them. The inevitable death of an open mailing
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list is dictated by the fact that you are purchasing a package of
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things-- messages--which arrive together. Since anyone is free to
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include a poison message in the lot, at some point the content of
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the entire list will lose interest, the good content outweighed by
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the bad.
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But whatever tragedy is experienced in the death of a mailing list
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bears no relationship to speech delivered via "pull"
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technology--in a bookstore or on the World Wide Web. As long as
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the speech I want is available and I am free not to select the
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speech I don't, there can be no tragedy of the commons. The
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existence of a disfavored sheep somewhere is not a tragedy of the
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commons unless its consequences are the wrongful death of my
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sheep. In a world where speech is delivered via "pull", my sheep
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and yours can co-exist.
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If a Usenet mailing list is a commons, it is only by virtue of the
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peculiarity of its technological means of delivery as an
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indivisible object. (I am oversimplifying and ignoring the
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possible application of filters or killfiles to exclude the speech
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I don't want.) However, a list lacks something which most commonly
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understood "commons" share: necessity. There may be only one
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green outside town on which to graze your sheep, but there are a
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myriad mailing lists, and this one is being pushed at you only
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because you requested it. If you're not happy with it, choose
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another, or start your own. Similarly, the collection of all
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Usenet mailing lists is not a commons, because you are not
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required to subscribe to any other list and nothing that happens
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on another list can affect yours. Similarly, seen vaguely from a
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distance, the set of all movies playing in my city may seem to be
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a commons. You may complain of the predominance of Hollywood
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action adventures. Nevertheless, movies are a pull technology,
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and you may choose to see only the most literary foreign films
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shown in revival houses.
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Looked at this way, a commons is something pushed upon us and
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which we do not have the option to reject. The air we breathe is a
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commons, but the airwaves are not, as we decide whether to have a
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television in the house and choose the programs we watch.
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Under this approach, no medium of communications is a commons with
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the possible exception of certain verbal and visual speech in
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public places. Books, movies, web pages are not push technology.
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Television programming and Usenet email are pushed at us only as
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the result of a choice we made.
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This "push/choice" analysis justifies very limited speech
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regulation, of a type that has already been found valid under the
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First Amendment: reasonable time, place and manner restrictions
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of bullhorns, public speaking and billboards, all of which are
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unavoidable push technology in public places.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 00:55:46 -0400
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From: Michael Sims <jellicle@inch.com>
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Subject: File 3--Compuserve, Germany, and porn
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Source - fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu
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The ruling which convicted the head of Compuserve in Germany has been
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appealed.
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By the *prosecution*.
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-- Michael Sims
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Prosecutors Appeal 'Outrageous' Net Porn Conviction
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NewsBytes 04-JUN-98 By Paul Lavin
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MUNICH, GERMANY, 1998 JUN 4 (Newsbytes) - The widely criticized
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German court decision last week to convict and sentence the former
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head of CompuServe on child pornography distribution charges has been
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appealed by the prosecution.
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Steve Case, chairman and chief executive officer of America Online
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Inc., which now owns CompuServe, last week called the conviction
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"outrageous" and U.S. presidential advisor Ira Magaziner said he
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"wouldn't be surprised if the conviction is overturned."
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During the course of the trial, the prosecution actually sided with
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the defendant in a rare legal about-face. The appeal leaves the
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convicting judge standing alone as the only person in the Bavarian
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court system, and indeed perhaps the world, that believes that Felix
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Somm was guilty of any infraction of German's new multimedia law.
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Somm was handed a two year suspended sentence and fines of DM 100,000
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($56, 500) last week.
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During the trial, the prosecutors announced that they believed Somm
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was not guilty and called for his acquittal on the charges of
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complicity in 13 acts of distributing child pornography over the
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CompuServe network.
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Defense experts had pointed out to the court that the technology to
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block such content didn't exist in 1995 and 1996, the time of the
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alleged crimes. Since the time that the charges were laid, a new law
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was passed that says service providers should generally not be held
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responsible for material that users distribute, providing they take
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reasonable measures to block such material.
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The defendant is also expected to appeal.
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Reported By Newsbytes News Network: http://www.newsbytes.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:26:28 -0500
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From: Rob Rosenberger <us@kumite.com>
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Subject: File 4--Blitzkrieg server computer virus, part III
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Okay okay, I'll stop after this one last bit of info about the Blitzkrieg
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server computer virus, FutureVision Group, and creator Larry Wood...
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An alert Internet user discovered more wild quotes. First up, the company's
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Yahoo! listing identifies them as "developers of self-organizing condensed
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matter computational systems." Did Larry Wood actually create a computer
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virus out of condensed matter?
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Next up, Mr. (not Dr.) Wood wrote a glowing recommendation letter for an
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NNTP server package. His lengthy second paragraph summarizes FutureVision
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Group as:
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* the world's largest around-the-clock commercial network mining
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operation
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* sitting on a fiber-based parallel distributed processing network with
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high-bandwidth optical pipelines and several wideband satellite downlinks
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* which they use to automatically translate/analyze Usenet postings in
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multiple languages for international government & corporate clients
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* who paid them $2 million in revenues over a three-month period
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* and who will pay another $4 million in a future three-month period.
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The skeptic in me wants to review FutureVision Group's tax filings for those
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periods.
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Visit
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http://www.yahoo.com/business_and_economy/companies/computers/services/resea
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rch/ for the Yahoo! listing; visit
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http://www.left-coast.net/dnews/reviews.htm to read Wood's product
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endorsement.
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Rob Rosenberger, webmaster
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Computer Virus Myths home page
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http://www.kumite.com/myths
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 16:53:50 -0400
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From: Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro <leandro@IFRONT.COM>
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Subject: File 5--ICQ Fans Rage Against AOL
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ICQ Fans Rage Against AOL
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by Joe Nickell
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http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/other/business/story/12896.html
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5:04am 11.Jun.98.PDT
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They're young, tech-literate, and generally seeking meaningful interaction
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in the seams of cyberspace. Having discovered ICQ by word of mouth, they
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downloaded the chat software because, unlike most of the other chat or
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instant-messaging wares on the Net, ICQ was that online rarity: a widely
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used, high-quality, but completely non-commercial utility. And they use it
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for everything from exchanging jokes to swapping phone-phreaking tips and
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transferring data files.
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Now, they've been turned into AOLers. And they're none too happy.
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Monday's announcement that America Online Inc. (AOL), the country's largest
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online service provider, had purchased Israel's Mirabilis Ltd. and its
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hugely popular ICQ chat software for US$400 million has touched off a
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firestorm of reaction from ICQ users. Many fear that AOL will transform the
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service from a free, uncensored hangout for the digitally hip into another
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commercial outlet overrun with spam, noise, and newbies -- and charge a fee,
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to boot.
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"I am a loyal user of ICQ. However, I'm uninstalling it this moment due to
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its [acquisition]," said Chris Casnova, a long-time ICQ user who lives in
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Bellingham, Washington. He is concerned there will be "banners,
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monopolization, virus-like install programs, false promises ... and a nice
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bloated program to take up PC time."
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Though no organized user protest has surfaced, a number of ICQ's 13 million
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members who seem to feel similarly have vented their skepticism about AOL to
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Mirabilis.
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On Monday, the company posted a lengthy letter to users on the ICQ download
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site, in which it acknowledged an "overwhelming" flood of concerned messages
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to the company during recent weeks, when rumors of the deal began
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circulating on the Internet.
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The letter explains the difficulties the free service is experiencing as it
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grows at a rate of 1 million new subscribers every 22 days and how AOL will
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help it navigate such testy waters. It goes to great lengths to portray AOL
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as a partner with an interest in communication and community -- and tried to
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assuage the biggest user concern, promising that, for the time being at
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least, ICQ will remain free.
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"Not many [complaints] were addressed directly to us, but we followed the
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ones posted on various Net places," said Yossi Vardi, chairman of Mirabilis,
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who estimated that the number of users who took the time to speak up on
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discussion boards, other chat forums, and reader-response sites was
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"probably in the thousands."
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And Mirabilis wasn't the only target of users' ire. When Patrick Keane, an
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Internet commerce analyst at Jupiter Communications, told CNET's News.com
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last month that AOL's goal in acquiring ICQ might be "to own the user," he
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received numerous angry phone and email messages from ICQ users.
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"I've never had consumers calling me irate like that over something I said
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about a company," Keane chuckled.
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But, according to Vardi, concerns that AOL ownership will taint the ICQ
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service are largely unfounded.
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"I believe that what matters is the quality of the offering and not the
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ownership," said Vardi. "We will continue to do our utmost to provide our
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users with the most fantastic Internet experience the world ever knew....
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Wait a few weeks until you see our new client, and please judge for
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yourself."
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Vardi noted that most messages directed to the company had expressed
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concerns over whether the company would begin charging for ICQ or whether
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users would be forced to sign up for America Online's proprietary online
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service.
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"The program will continue to be [available as a] time-limited free beta,
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exactly like what we have done since our inception," said Vardi. "It will be
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available no matter who is your Internet service provider. AOL asked us to
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continue to run the program exactly as we run it now, no changes
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whatsoever."
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Vardi did acknowledge that AOL expects to earn back its investment in the
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company. It paid $287 million up front with the promise of additional
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payments contingent on undisclosed events, which could bring the total to
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$400 million, for a 100 percent stake in the company. But, he said, revenue
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will likely be sought through advertising rather than user charges.
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"AOL will have to make up its mind, but I have no doubt that most of the
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users will prefer to have reasonably placed banners rather then paying --
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which is not considered at this point of time," said Vardi, noting that a
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company survey of users last year found that 92 percent preferred
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advertising to subscription fees or charges for the software.
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For its part, AOL recognizes that ICQ users are skeptical about its
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intentions. But according to AOL spokeswoman Tricia Primrose, the company
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looks forward to trying to meet the needs of a new audience.
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"We don't wanna muck with success ... and we've been very cognizant of
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what's made ICQ successful," said Primrose. "We totally recognize that ICQ
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appeals to a different market segment from the America Online service, and
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that's the good news for us: It means we can help serve the needs of an
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entirely new type of user that we've previously never reached. "We
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absolutely intend to keep ICQ's attitude, service, and functionality intact.
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That's a large part of why we are keeping the ICQ brand completely separate
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from AOL."
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Still, some are concerned that AOL's intent of making money and turning ICQ
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into a mass-market product will lead it to place restraints on use of the
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software itself.
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"I worry about any family-based organization taking over much of anything
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because inevitably concerns arise over 'family values,'" said Suzanne
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Goodney, a graduate student in sociology at Indiana University, who noted
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the infamous debacle in which AOL banned use of the word "breast" in its
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chat areas until breast-cancer survivors complained.
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That worry may not be unfounded, according to Keane, who said that
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commercial chat sites on the Internet have had a hard time selling
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advertisements due to the fact that they might appear next to someone's, uh,
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ode to Ginger Spice or Pamela Anderson.
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Nonetheless, users are hopeful that the spirit that has made ICQ an
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underground hit over its 18-month history will live on.
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"Ultimately, corporations with their interests in increasing profit margins
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... will muddle themselves in all sorts of indie stuff," said Goodney. "But
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the cool thing about the indie realm is that it's creative and not tied to
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profit and is thus inclined toward re-invention -- thriving on that, even."
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___
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Leandro Asnaghi-Nicastro (LA672)
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Editor in Chief, Capital of Nasty - ISSN 1482-0471
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http://www.capnasty.org
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ICQ UIN 889318
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 07:33:04 -0700
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From: Bennett Haselton <bennett@peacefire.org>
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Subject: File 6--GLAAD response to AFA.net being blocked
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Source - fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu
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[Give credit to GLAAD for reacting this way.]
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http://www.glaad.org/glaad/glaad-lines/980601/03.html
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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June 1, 1998--
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GLAAD INVITES AFA TO JOIN IFS CRITICISM: The religious political extremist
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group, The American Family Association (AFA) announced that the
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Cyberpatrol, the popular Internet filtering software (IFS) has blocked its
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Website due to the fact that the AFA violates filter guidelines on
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"Intolerance." Until the AFA's site had been blocked, the group had been a
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vocal advocate for of filtering software and had assisted in the marketing
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of another IFS, X-STOP. GLAAD, on the otherhand, has long been a staunch
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advocate for free speech on the Internet and has once more challenged IFS
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in its recent groundbreaking report "Access Denied." GLAAD Interactive
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Media Director, Loren Javier said, "Perhaps now the AFA understands the
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value of free speech for all on the Internet. GLAAD hopes the AFA will
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combat Internet censorship and oppose all policies requiring IFS use by
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schools and libraries." For more information contact Loren Javier, GLAAD
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Interactive Media Director at (510) 831-1092 or javier@glaad.org.
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bennett@peacefire.org http://www.peacefire.org
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 22:19:17 -0700
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From: Bennett Haselton <bennett@peacefire.org
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Subject: File 7--FRC comments on Cyber Patrol's block of AFA.net (fwd)
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Source - fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu
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Date--Wed, 3 Jun 1998 20:18:14 -07--
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From--"Loren R. Javier" <javier@glaad.org
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Subject--AFA, GLAAD and Internet Filtering Software
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This is what the Family Research Council reported on our GLAADLine item
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inviting the AFA to join us in speaking out against filtering software.
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Loren
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culturefacts A Publication of Family Research Council
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June 3, 1998
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> Filtering Out Decency
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>
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> Cyber Patrol, a popular Internet filtering software package, has
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> decided to block the American Family Association (AFA) website
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> because the AFA violates Cyber Patrol's filter guidelines on
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> "intolerance," according to an AFA press release. It's no wonder.
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> CultureFacts has learned that the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against
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> Defamation (GLAAD) is a charter member of Cyber Patrol's oversight
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> committee.
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>
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> GLAAD is a homosexual media group that promotes transgenderism,
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> childhood anti-"homophobia" education, and tolerance for
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> sadomasochists, as well as other bizarre sexual behaviors. AFA
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> has been a vocal advocate for filtering software and has assisted in
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> the marketing of another filtering program, X-STOP.
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>
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> In response to AFA's announcement, GLAAD called on the AFA - which it
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> characterized as a "religious political extremist group" - to join it
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> to combat "Internet censorship and oppose all policies requiring
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> [Internet filtering software] use by schools and libraries." GLAAD
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> has been an outspoken opponent of internet filtering software,
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> because most of them block homosexual-oriented sites.
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>
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> It was pressure by GLAAD that turned Cyber Patrol around. According
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> to press releases from the GLAAD website, the Northhampton,
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> Massachusetts, company Cyber Patrol formerly blocked
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> homosexual-oriented sites. However, following criticism from the
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> homosexual community in late 1995, Cyber Patrol formed an oversight
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> committee comprising representatives "from diverse areas of expertise
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> and experience." In February 1996, GLAAD joined Cyber Patrol's
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> oversight committee as a charter member. GLAAD Director of
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> Information Services Loren Javier says, "This gesture demonstrates
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> their understanding that gay men and lesbians are a very important
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> part of the internet community."
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>
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> Cyber Patrol (www.cyberpatrol.com) does not filter out homosexual
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> groups such as the Human Rights Campaign, National Gay & Lesbian
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> Task Force and, of course, GLAAD.
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>
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> - KLE
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>
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Loren R. Javier
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> Interactive Media Director
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> GLAAD
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> Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
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> javier@glaad.org2244
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> fax: 415.861.4893
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>
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> GLAAD is a national organization that promotes fair, accurate and inclusive
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> representation as a means of challenging discrimination based on sexual
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> orientation or identity.
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------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:10:07 -0400
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From: Anubis <anubis@DC.NET>
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Subject: File 8--Re: technical solutions to spam problem
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Regarding the summary you wrote about your disagreement with
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Vladimir Z. Nuri on the "solution" for SPAM:
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I agree with you that "The technical solution" is not the way to go.
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Your argument is very Orwellian - you used the phrase "big brother"
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three times with in six sentences... paranoid much? But I digress...
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Then you suggest "The social solution". Isn't that in the same context
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as what the CDA was trying to do - introduce some social and moral
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perspectives (as slanted as they were) to the net?
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Now, don't get me wrong - I thought the CDA was only useful as
|
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toilet paper. But applying a "social" cure for the problem of SPAM is
|
|
really no different. Don't you think "The private or individual
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|
solution" would be more appropriate? I mean, what if I really don't mind
|
|
getting all that junk? Now, that's not me - SPAM drives me nuts, nuts,
|
|
nuts!. But I think it should be up to the individuals and group
|
|
moderators to enforce filtering. Not the ISP, as in the technical
|
|
solution. And don't tell me that I can't send a message to every news
|
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group asking for a dollar or to visit www.spam.com. What about all the
|
|
grocery store circulars that you get in the mail? Or all the coupon
|
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books and flyers for the white sale going on now at Wards? Yes, I know
|
|
that's been said before, but it's really no different. Get a grip.
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Social solution? Gimme a break... I'm sick of people saying
|
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everything's a social problem. Here's an idea... I call it the Final
|
|
Solution. Wait, I think that's been used already... oh, well.
|
|
whatever... as I was saying, we'll round up every last SPAMMER out there
|
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are and relocate them to work camps in Poland and Serbia. I tell ya,
|
|
those Serbians know just how to run this kind of operation...
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|
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|
Look - SPAM is a problem. Not because it exists, but because so
|
|
often they're forging other network providers' addresses to their SPAM
|
|
and it's the network providers that are getting SPAMMED in return by
|
|
angry (and usually very immature) victims of that SPAM. The problem is
|
|
being compounded by every know-it-all with a keyboard. More computer
|
|
literacy and less computer socialism.
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------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 17:36:55 -0500
|
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From: Neil W Rickert <rickert@CS.NIU.EDU>
|
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Subject: File 9--Re: technical solutions to spam problem
|
|
|
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>Then you suggest "The social solution". Isn't that in the same context
|
|
>as what the CDA was trying to do - introduce some social and moral
|
|
>perspectives (as slanted as they were) to the net?
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|
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No. The CDA is the police state solution.
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|
|
|
> Now, don't get me wrong - I thought the CDA was only useful as
|
|
>toilet paper. But applying a "social" cure for the problem of SPAM is
|
|
>really no different.
|
|
|
|
I was not trying to 'apply a social cure'. Rather, I was suggesting
|
|
that technological changes could be made so that normal social
|
|
processes could function suitably.
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|
|
|
> Look - SPAM is a problem. Not because it exists, but because so
|
|
>often they're forging other network providers' addresses to their SPAM
|
|
>and it's the network providers that are getting SPAMMED in return by
|
|
>angry (and usually very immature) victims of that SPAM.
|
|
|
|
Right. And normal social processes don't work precisely because it
|
|
is so easy for the spammer to hide his identity. So what we need is
|
|
some sort of end-to-end authentication which makes it very hard to
|
|
hide. Then ordinary social processes will begin to cut back the
|
|
problem.
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|
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|
------------------------------
|
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|
|
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 19:08:44 -0700
|
|
From: Scott Peterson <scottp4@IBM.NET>
|
|
Subject: File 10--Re: technical solutions to spam problem
|
|
|
|
I don't know why this is coming up here as if the ideas expressed were new
|
|
or unique. There are mail lists like SPAM-L and newsgroups like
|
|
NEWS.ADMIN.NET-ABUSE.EMAIL that have discussions about this ad nauseam.
|
|
|
|
To discuss some of the issues raised in the discussion here:
|
|
|
|
>The private or individual solution: Each person deletes/discards
|
|
> undesired messages. This could either be done manually, or with
|
|
> some kind of AI software used and configured by the user.
|
|
>
|
|
|
|
SPAM shouldn't be so prevalent that this is necessary. Unfortuanately it
|
|
has become a major cost factor for many ISP's. AOL, for example, estimates
|
|
that 30-40 percent of its mail volume is unsolicited e-mail. Just think
|
|
what that volume must be if the 12 or 13-million subscribers receive just
|
|
one piece of unsolicited e-mail a day (and, as an AOL subscriber I wish
|
|
that was all I got). What do you think that must cost in terms of disk
|
|
space, server hardware, network throughput and personal inconvenience.
|
|
|
|
>The technical solution: System software (spam filters, etc) are
|
|
> put in place to refuse to accept certain types of message.
|
|
|
|
Just like the prevailing attitudes on deleting newsgroup spamming, it
|
|
must be on the basis of network abuse, regardless of content. The
|
|
technical solutions are:
|
|
|
|
1) Limit access to dialups to authenticated users so that you can prevent
|
|
unauthorized access to your networks.
|
|
|
|
2) Don't allow mail servers to relay mail for unauthorized third parties.
|
|
The latest versions of sendmail has implemented reverse DNS lookup to
|
|
prevent access by users with forged addresses.
|
|
|
|
3) Limit access for new accounts until 'the check clears' and you know
|
|
it's someone who's not just creating a throwaway account.
|
|
|
|
4) Establish a firm set of policies for your clients saying that network
|
|
abuse is forbidden either through your servers or advertising web sites on
|
|
your servers through third parties. Also make sure that the policies
|
|
include paying for any cleanup costs if someone does spam through you.
|
|
|
|
>The social solution: A system of social constraints is used so
|
|
> that very few undesired messages are sent in the first place.
|
|
|
|
No social issue. Spamming is theft. Period! Many spammers compare
|
|
themselves to junk mailers going through the post office. But compare the
|
|
two:
|
|
|
|
Junk Mail Junk E-mail
|
|
|
|
1. pay to print, package whip something out on their computer
|
|
and address their
|
|
materials
|
|
|
|
2. pay to sort and transport send the mail through their own
|
|
their mail to the post computer.
|
|
office for mailing
|
|
|
|
3. Pay the post office relay through an innocent third-party
|
|
to deliver their mail often with forged return addresses of
|
|
real sites, forcing the innocent third party
|
|
to receive complaints, dealing with bounced mail because of bad
|
|
addresses.
|
|
|
|
4. Put the mail in your Deliver the e-mail to an isp where you
|
|
mail box where you have an account that you pay for, taking
|
|
can decide what to do up limited disk space on your mail spool.
|
|
with it at no cost to Not everyone has unlimited access.
|
|
you Many people pay by the minute or hour
|
|
to download their mail, including the junk
|
|
.
|
|
So you can see this is hardly a victimless crime and shouldn't be treated
|
|
that way. If you spam you should face civil and criminal penalties
|
|
commensurate with the damage done.
|
|
|
|
If you think there are no legal issues, I suggest the Craig Novak vs.
|
|
FLOWERS.COM where a San Diego Spammer forged this domain on a piece of
|
|
spam, got sued and lost to the tune of about $10,000 for his actions.
|
|
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|
------------------------------
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|
|
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 11:02:54 -0400
|
|
From: Matthew Gaylor <freematt@coil.com>
|
|
Subject: File 11--Scientology And Free Speech
|
|
|
|
((MODERATORS' NOTE: The Church of Scientology has drawn vehement
|
|
criticism on the Net for what many believe to be excessive
|
|
litigation for those using the Net (and other forums) to criticize
|
|
its practices. More information can be found at:
|
|
http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/dianetics.html)
|
|
|
|
Source - fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu
|
|
|
|
[Excerpted FACTNet Newsletter, MAY 1998 Online at
|
|
<http://www.factnet.org/letters/FACTNewsMay1.html>
|
|
Also note: If you missed FACTNet's April newsletter, it is online at
|
|
<http://www.factnet.org/letters/FACTNewsApr1.html> ]
|
|
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|
|
|
Battling Scientology's Attack on Free Speech
|
|
|
|
[Remarks delivered by FACTNet director Robert S. Minton to the Cult
|
|
Information Service's Annual Conference, April 19, 1998. Unfortunately, due
|
|
to space limitations, we can only provide excerpts from the beginning and
|
|
end of these remarks. Please see entire text at http://www.factnet.org ]
|
|
|
|
Thank you Paul (Grosswald). It is truly a great honor to have been invited
|
|
to speak at this annual conference of the Cult Information Service.
|
|
|
|
I won't be able to keep my secrets from you much longer, but I am neither a
|
|
public speaker nor do I possess any formal training on the subject of
|
|
cults. However, over the last three years, and particularly in the last 9
|
|
months, I have received a rather fiery baptism on cults and free speech
|
|
from an organization that Cynthia Kisser said "is quite likely the most
|
|
ruthless, the most classically terroristic, the most litigious and the most
|
|
lucrative cult the country has ever seen. No cult extracts more money from
|
|
its members."
|
|
|
|
Yes, I am involved in a controversy with the Church of Scientology over the
|
|
most fundamental right in a democracy--the freedom to speak. Scientology
|
|
hypocritically cries that theirs is a persecuted religion attacked by
|
|
bigoted and intolerant critics. Further, Scientology's mantra, repeated
|
|
ad-nauseum throughout their paranoid and delusional history, continues to
|
|
be that those individuals and governments who dare criticize their
|
|
anti-social goals, tactics and civil rights abuses of their own members are
|
|
engaged in some grand conspiracy to destroy Scientology. Nothing could be
|
|
further from the truth.
|
|
|
|
I am just one of many persons working actively through the Internet, the
|
|
Cult Information Service, FACTNet, the American Family Foundation and in
|
|
our own individual ways to force much needed reform on Scientology. These
|
|
reforms must acknowledge that all of us, Scientologists especially, have an
|
|
inalienable right to criticize, oppose or scrutinize practices and tactics
|
|
used by their organization which we view as contrary to the respect and
|
|
dignity required towards our fellow man. Without these most basic rights,
|
|
there certainly cannot be religious freedom, or in fact any freedom, in our
|
|
democracy.
|
|
|
|
Scientology's own creed, which uses the phrase "inalienable rights" seven
|
|
times, states in part: "That all men have inalienable rights to think
|
|
freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter
|
|
or utter or write upon the opinions of others." These are very noble words,
|
|
but this is truly an organization whose so-called leaders have no shame.
|
|
|
|
In the United States, many of us take our inalienable rights for granted,
|
|
because by definition they cannot be taken away. But ask your own sons and
|
|
daughters who have experienced Scientology's orgy of thought reform or
|
|
Paulette Cooper from New York, Larry Wollersheim from Colorado, Stacy Young
|
|
from Washington, Arnie Lerma from Virginia, or Frank Oliver in Florida if
|
|
their inalienable rights were in any way protected while in Scientology, or
|
|
if Scientology has shown any respect whatsoever for any of their rights
|
|
since they departed.
|
|
|
|
Ask Lisa McPherson and Noah Lottick if their rights to life, liberty, and
|
|
the pursuit of happiness were sacred to Scientology.
|
|
|
|
A little known fact in our society is that we have no rights under our
|
|
constitution unless we are willing to stand up and affirmatively assert
|
|
them. This is a price that all cults and litigious entities like
|
|
Scientology force us to pay in our society because they are so willing to
|
|
strip their members and critics alike of as many of our rights as we will
|
|
cede them
|
|
|
|
As for myself, I do not intend to surrender my rights to Scientology
|
|
without an armed struggle. I will be armed with the stories of abuse,
|
|
betrayal, harassment, intimidation, fear, broken families, neglected
|
|
children, financial ruin, and the personal and emotional devastation that
|
|
so many ex-Scientologists have suffered
|
|
|
|
Given the current level of harassment, intimidation and abuse dished out by
|
|
this organization, my crystal ball sees Scientology's future as filled with
|
|
more negative consequences in response to their actions, including:
|
|
|
|
More press, more media and more public speaking against Scientology's
|
|
anti-social policies, abuse of the legal system, and total disregard for
|
|
the rights of others,
|
|
|
|
More organized and concentrated efforts to educate celebrity victims being
|
|
used and manipulated by Scientology
|
|
|
|
More specific efforts to reach individual members with the truth about
|
|
Scientology's lies and hypocrisy, and
|
|
|
|
More fund-raising from an expanding array of talented and capable people
|
|
who will no longer tolerate the bullying policies and tactics used by
|
|
Scientology management.
|
|
|
|
Standing up to the Church of Scientology has been an incredibly
|
|
enlightening and enriching personal experience--a test of my character at
|
|
every step of the way. I've gotten to know many former Scientologists, and
|
|
clearly they are some of the nicest people I've ever known. While in
|
|
Scientology, these very same people were taught to lie and betray and
|
|
acquiesce to having their own rights taken away from them. This proves to
|
|
me that even an organization as totalitarian as Scientology cannot strip
|
|
away innate human goodness, and gives me hope that we will get to know many
|
|
more former Scientologists as our actions continue in the coming weeks and
|
|
months.
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|
###
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|
|
|
Scientology. Keith Henson was found guilty of copyright infringement by a
|
|
California jury in the Religious Technology Center [an arm of Scientology]
|
|
v. Keith Henson suit. The jury awarded Scientology $75,000. According to
|
|
Wired Magazine, "Depending on whom you ask, last week's verdict in
|
|
Religious Technology Center v. Keith Henson is either a vote for
|
|
intellectual property rights or a vote against freedom of information."
|
|
[Article at <http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/12355.html>].
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1998 22:51:01 CST
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From: CuD Moderators <cudigest@sun.soci.niu.edu>
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