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Computer underground Digest Wed Mar 19, 1998 Volume 10 : Issue 19
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ISSN 1004-042X
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Editor: Jim Thomas (cudigest@sun.soci.niu.edu)
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News Editor: Gordon Meyer (gmeyer@sun.soci.niu.edu)
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Archivist: Brendan Kehoe
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Shadow Master: Stanton McCandlish
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Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth
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Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala
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Ian Dickinson
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Field Agent Extraordinaire: David Smith
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Cu Digest Homepage: http://www.soci.niu.edu/~cudigest
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CONTENTS, #10.19 (Wed, Mar 19, 1998)
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File 1--Re: Censorware (Cu Digest, #10.16, Wed 4 Mar 98)
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File 2--Re: "Alert Vulnerability" - Cu Digest, #10.17
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File 3--Fwd: Does John Q. Public understand software complexity?
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File 4--Brian Milburn thread
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File 5--Senator plans to ban .gov porn-parodies; new crypto-campaign
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File 6--ACM Policy 98 Conference coming in May
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File 7--ANNOUNCEMENT: Democratic Renaissance / International Workshop
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File 8--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 7 May, 1997)
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CuD ADMINISTRATIVE, EDITORIAL, AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION APPEARS IN
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THE CONCLUDING FILE AT THE END OF EACH ISSUE.
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Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 08:38:37 -0700
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From: michael_moore@stortek.com
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Subject: File 1--Re: Censorware (Cu Digest, #10.16, Wed 4 Mar 98)
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Date--Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:15:26 -0500 (EST)
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From--"Bill Michaelson" <bill@COSI.COM>
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>BTW, I'm not one of "everyone", although I agree that most people seem to
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>accept as a basic premise that children should be shielded from certain
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>types of information. We who believe otherwise are in a very tiny minority.
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>I suppose this doctrine is firmly embedded in our culture, with
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>movie rating schemes and similar filtering/censoring devices all
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>around. It's practically apostasy to suggest that children can
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>handle any information with proper guidance. But having been a child
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>who was allowed access to any type of information, I find this
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>censorship quite repugnant.
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From what I'm reading here, you think that censorship of any kind is
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bad. Even the right of a parent to control the information a child
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receives. Not the guvmint, not censorware, but the parent. Correct?
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>It is comforting to me to believe that we are very concerned with child
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>welfare, but I am cynical because of the many who apparently trot
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>out the child welfare issue as justification for their political agendas.
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My comments have nothing to do with political agendas. No one has the
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right to tell me what is best for my children, not the censors not the
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anti-censors. They are not raising my kids, I am.
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>I think children are far more resilient than we give them credit
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>for being. We only stunt their intellectual growth when we withhold
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>information (of any kind) from them. And when some claim that children
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>are not "ready" for information, it is really the *adults* who are not
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>ready or willing to discuss the issues with their children.
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Wrong, at least in my case. I will discuss any subject they bring up as
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honestly and as completely as I am able. I note generalizations in this
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paragraph while the whole point of my earlier comments is how I, and no
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one else live my life and raise my children.
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> If I don't have the right to control and monitor the information my
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> children receive, than who does? The guvmint? No one?
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>Controlling and monitoring are distinct activities. I heartily approve
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>of monitoring (and editorializing upon) the information children receive.
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>I do not approve of controlling it to the extent that any information
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>is excluded.
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And here is the point of disagreement. While I agree that there is a
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great resiliancy is kids, there are also many things they cannot handle
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until they have had a chance to grow. I have spent many nights awake,
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comforting one of my children because of an image, idea, or occurance
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that happened in their life that they were, at the time, unable to
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handle. I would protect my kids from that when I can.
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>Regardless, I would give you the right to do both with your children,
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>just so that I could live in peace with you. I wouldn't necessarily
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>approve, and we might clash at the school board meeting occasionally.
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You and I may have.
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>In the end, I suppose my child would then have a competitive advantage
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>over yours.
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That remains to be seen, however it is mere speculation.
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>>>We do not allow parents to keep their children from getting an
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>>>education. We do not allow this even though that education can lead
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>>>to those children learning things that will cause them to disagree
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>>>with their parents.
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>
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>> Parents do not have the right to keep their children from an education
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>> but with things like the PTA and school board meetings we do have some
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>> control on the content of that education.
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>And the PTA and the school board, et al, battle it out, and the kids are
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>taught the resulting curriculum over some parents' objections. That
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>was the original poster's point.
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True, what a child learns in grade school differs enormously from high
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school, but then so does the child's worldview and maturity.
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>> War is a fact and cannot be hidden, however are you going to show photos
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>> of Aushwitz to a 3rd grade class or pictures of liberated villages whose
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>> people are glad that some one stood up to fight when it was necessary.
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>Is that how you choose to introduce the concept of war to children? Show
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>them the glory before you show them the horror? I'm getting a fresh
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>perspective on why war has persisted through the ages.
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You betcha. It has persisted because someone will always try to
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subjegate another. Someone will always want to take what another has.
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And when it reaches a point where it affects nations, war is inevitable.
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Hoping it will go away is just wishful thinking.
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>> Showing a little child pictures of horror will not end wars
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>Not by itself it won't.
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>> in the future but it will frighted, shock, and disturb him. Is this
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>> the way we want our small children to feel?
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>Yes. That is exactly how I want our small children to feel about war.
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>Frightened, shocked and confused. That's how I feel about war. What
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>about you?
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No I don't. Instead I want them to feel confident, knowlegable, and
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aware. War is horrible, the premature death of any individual should be
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considered the greatest outrage against mankind. This is a feeling that
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should be instilled in all people, children and adults alike. But to
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live in such fear of fighting that not to fight if and when it becomes
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necessary goes against everything I believe in.
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>> I don't and will do everything I can to
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>> block such sights from them until I think they're ready.
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>"Ready", how? Ready to accept such sights unemotionally?
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No, not unemotionally but instead mature enough to see them as the
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horrors they are, not the horrors a small child can imaging them to be.
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Little children take most everything they see, hear, and learn very
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personally. They do not see it as history but as immediate and now. They
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see these things as something that could happen to them that very day.
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They do not see it as something that has happened and good people
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everywhere are trying to prevent from happening again.
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>Interesting to me that you use Aushwitz and third grade as an example.
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>That's when I first learned about the Holocaust. I was about 7 or 8 years
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>old when I pulled a history book off my aunt's shelf while looking for
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>entertainment and found graphic descriptions of what man does to man in the
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>photos of liberated Nazi concentration camps. Yeah, I was disturbed and
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>confused. It was the weirdest shit I'd ever seen, and it took me years
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>to digest it. But I was old enough to go seeking information in history
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>books, so I found history, in a dosage exactly proportional to my
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>perceptual abilities at the time. Later, when I heard about this
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>guy called Hitler, it really meant something to me.
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I was also disturbed and confused when I learned about the camps. The
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pictures and movies I saw still haunt me at times. I still cannot
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understand the motivation for such atrocities. It is completely alien to
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my thinking.
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>I disagree with the notion that showing a child pictures of horror will
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>not end war. It will require a lot of factors to end war, but at the
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>core of our motivation will be a visceral revulsion of it. Short of
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>first-hand experience (which would be self-defeating), how are people
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>to acquire such revulsion through sanitized presentations at only
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>"appropriate" times?
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I have no idea when I first saw such things, but I must have been at an
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age when the emotions they generated were not revulsion so much as rage
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that this could happen. And that is the emotion I want my kids to feel,
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not revulsion so great that they hide from it but rage that it could
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happen and should never happen again.
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>Through a picture is the best way for a child to see a war, and it should
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>be seen, as early as possible, as far as I'm concerned. A child can
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>then contrast it with the reality of the decent civilized community within
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>which (hopefully) they live. They need to see the possibilities while
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>they're young and it will make the most lasting impression. This is
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>important stuff to learn while young.
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True, we only disagree on the extent and at what age a child should be
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shown the images of war.
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>>Violence is a fact of life but it is my job as a parent to protect my
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>>children from violence as long as I can. I fail to see how teaching
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>So protect them from violence. Don't "protect" them from knowledge.
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>> self-defence to an eight year old can protect them from violence from an
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>> adult. I must and do teach my kids what they can do in a bad situation,
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>> but I also try to teach them that in many instances violence is not as
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>> ubiquitious as the media portrays. I don't hide the fact of violence and
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>> hate from them but if I left it up to them to learn on their own, would
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>> they not learn that it is unavoidable, everyone is evil, and they can do
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>> nothing to escape it? Wouldn't it be more traumatic for my kids to live
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>> paranoid and afraid? Because of the sensational nature of the really
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>> heinous crimes, might they not think they are more prevelant then they
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>> actually are? Of course I'm going to keep some of this from my kids
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>> until I, no one else, decide that they are ready to handle it.
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>So you are seeking a sense of balance in how media portrays life for your
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>child. That's sensible. Supervise and mediate, advise and consult. Help
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>them think critically. Don't let them live in a fantasy world shaped by
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>television and video games. You sound like a concerned, well-meaning and
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>loving parent.
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>But don't prohibit them from learning about ANYTHING. You can't stop it,
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>and if you try, you'll lose some of their trust. They're very smart, and
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>if you think you are keeping information from them, then it's almost
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>certain that THEY are or will be keeping information from YOU. Believe it.
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I won't prohibit my children from learning anything. I will try to
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protect them from things I don't think they are ready to handle. But if
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they do find out about a subject, I won't prevent them. In fact, it
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means that I miss-judged their ability and maturity and will encourage
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them. But at the same time, the whole point of my original post is that
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I AM the judge, not some faceless guvmint or software publisher. I do
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not, and will not use any type of screening software. I don't rely on
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movie rating or other nonsense that this country tries to use to protect
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us from ourselves. I will not surrender to anyone my right to raise my
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children the way I believe they should be raised. And when I have to do
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that by censorship, I do.
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>>>Yes, as a previous poster said, a 10-year-old searching for
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>>>information under "American Girl" may see things that will remain
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>>>with that child for the rest of his or her life. But there is no
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>>>evidence that this harms the child; there are a _lot_ of things that
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>>>remain with people throughout their lives. Parents have the
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>>>opportunity to do a lot of things that have this characteristic;
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>>>should they be able to shut children off from others doing the same,
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>>>if no harm is done to the child?
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>
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>> Maybe this stuff will do no permanent harm but they can be confusing to
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>> a child without the maturity to handle it. The little folks have enough
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>That's how maturity is acquired.
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>> problems living in the big folks world as it is. So I will keep things
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>> from my kids that I don't think they are ready for.
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>Like the military draft was something my mother thought I wasn't ready
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>to handle at the tender age of 18, I'm sure.
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But you learned about the draft in other ways. The point here is that
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your mother was exercising her right and duty to raise her son the way
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she saw best. Right or wrong, I do not fault her for trying.
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>Events march on, and you can't stop them.
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>You're not helping the kids. I suspect that it is you who are not ready
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>to face these issues with your kids. It's tough to explain to a child why
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>someone would hang a person from their skull on a meathook. In fact, I
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>don't really know how to explain it, or whether it merits explanation so
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>much as it calls for introspection. But if you have kids, you're stuck with
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>this sort of problem, if you accept the responsibility. Your kids will
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>know when you are hiding something, or are too squeamish to talk to them
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>about it. That does not foster trust. Get over it before the gulf gets >wide.
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You are reading much more into my words than I wrote. It is not
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abrogation of responsibility but the exercise of responsiblitly that I
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am talking about. Censorship plays only a small part in my raising of my
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kids, but it does play a part and I will not give up my right to use it.
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>> It boils down to a matter of values, not the PC "Family Values" that are
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>> being touted but the values that I've learned over the years and have
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>> put into my own life. I will try to instill those values in my children
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>> until such time as they are ready to develop their own. And I will do it
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>> by "censorship" if I think that is the way it should be done.
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>You lead by example. Regardless of your motives, the value you are
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>instilling is to control people by limiting their access to information.
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Again, no. Just to the point I feel they are ready to handle it. I do
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not keep things from a 13 year old, I think they are on the path to
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adulthood and probably ready for whatever they encounter. But I would
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from a 7 year old.
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>Perhaps they will learn this lesson well, and use it on you. Watch out
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>for the teen years.
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My kids are teens, and raised using the methods I've tried to describe.
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Two have graduated high school already, one is a senior. My son is
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heavily into computers and is now apprenticed to a computer graphics
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firm to learn the business. My oldest daughter is saving money for her
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schooling (a value instilled), and the youngest wants to be a writer and
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artist. I am proud of my kids.
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>But that's your privilege. Keep your kids off the 'net until you think
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>they're "ready". Or supervise them. But don't surrender your parental
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>responsibilities to someone else with their own social agenda, like a
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>censorware software maker.
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Again, I DO NOT surrender my responsibilities, not to the censors, not
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to the others who think differently from me.
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>I'm willing to pay the school tax for your kids, and to subsidize your
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>extra tax write-offs. No problem. But don't ask me to pay the cost of
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>your parenting responsibilities with my freedom of speech, or the freedom
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>to seek information of *any* sort. Don't lend support to cockamamie rating
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>systems that will sterilize the 'net.
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You are free to say anything you wish and learn anything you wish, I
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support that wholeheartedly. But then so am I. And if you say something
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that I would see as detrimental to my children I would block it from
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them. I don't lend support to cockamamie rating systems, nor do I want
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to see anything like mandatory censorship of the net or anything else. I
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only want to make it clear that I will not give up my duties as a parent
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and the tools I have available, including censorship, to anyone.
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I am curious about the tax writeoffs you mention, I can't remember ever
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getting a break.:^)
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>I don't mind too much if some parents choose to keep their kids ignorant,
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>but not anyone else's, and certainly not the world at large.
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It is not ignorance I support, but what as I see as responsible
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parenting. My methods have worked for me. My kids are the proof. My
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biggest objection is ANYONE telling me that what I do with and for my
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family is wrong because it does not agree with what they think is right.
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I don't do it to others, do not do it to me.
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Peace.
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Michael W. Moore
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:36:13 -0500 (EST)
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From: "John S. Cronin" <jsc@SWAMP.OIT.GATECH.EDU>
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Subject: File 2--Re: "Alert Vulnerability" - Cu Digest, #10.17
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> From--shadow@KRYPTON.RAIN.COM(Leonard Erickson)
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> In Cu Digest, #10.16, Wed 4 Mar 98, "Richard K. Moore" <rkmoore@iol.ie>
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> writes:
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>
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> > The next step is to contact those people NOW - while you still can
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> > conveniently - and exchange with them your phone numbers, fax numbers, and
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> > postal addresses. You might even go so far as to make preliminary
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> > arrangements for "phone-tree" or "photocopy-tree" protocols for
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> > distributing information, but most of us probably won't get around to that,
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> > life being what it is. The important thing is to have the necessary data
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> > on hand well in advance of need.
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>
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> I suggest checking out Fidonet. Unlike the Internet, Fidonet is *based*
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> on a "phone directory" (the nodelist) that permits *direct* exchange of
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> email and files between sites. It also has some elementary security
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> provisions, such as pre-arranged session passwords.
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I am surprised that nobody mentioned another old standard, UUCP. It
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was passing news and email long before the Internet. It works via direct
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connections over the phone lines. It is not a great replacement for
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"the Internet", but in a pinch, it is would certainly be much better
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than nothing at all. So the trick is, prepare now to bring up a UUCP
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network in a crisis, if you are concerned about this. Virtually all
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Unix systems have UUCP support, and I have seen UUCP on DOS systems
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as well.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:24:23 -0800
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From: Tommy Anderberg, Tommy.Anderberg@abc.se
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Subject: File 3--Fwd: Does John Q. Public understand software complexity?
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I dare say he does not. If the general public understood the realities of
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software design, development, testing, documentation and maintenance -
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simply
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put, what an incredible amount of work it all is - we wouldn't be having
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problems like a "sudden" 2YK crisis ("what do you mean there isn't enough
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time to fix all systems, there are almost two years left and it's just a
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few 0s!") and even software piracy would probably not be as widespread as
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it is ("hey, it's not stealing - besides, it's absurd what those lazy, fat
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cat programmers would have you pay for a few lines of code").
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That's why I came up with the idea for the contest at
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http://www.polyhedric.com/software/acid/contest.html
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Taking part is very simple: all you have to do is guess the size of the
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source code for a new, moderately complex program (available for download
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at the same site). Get it right to within ten lines and you win a free
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user
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license. More importantly, you will have given some thought to the
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complexity of a minuscule part of "cyberspace", hopefully gaining some
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insight in the process. At least, that's the idea.
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So how is it working out? Well, I've just had the first answers sent over
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-
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both the contest and the software are brand new - and it's even worse than
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I thought. So bad in fact that the deadline for submissions may have to be
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extended beyond the originally planned date of April 6. If not, we may not
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even have somebody land in the right ballpark.
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We already have the terms "illiteracy" and (semi-officially) "innumeracy",
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but I think the time has come to coin a counterpart for the information
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age.
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:28:54 GMT
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From: Randy Simpson <rjsimpson@hotmail.com>
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Subject: File 4--Brian Milburn thread
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Re: the CyberSitter issue - I have 2 daughters who are now both in
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college so I might be able to provide an additional perspective on this
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issue.
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At some point, usually in high school but certainly by college, even the
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most vigilant parent has to trust that what they've taught their child
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is sufficient preparation for them to go it on their own.
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If all that a parent has taught a child is to obey the dictates set
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down, then they've done a poor job of preparing that child to make
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decisions on their own. The child might make a good soldier or prison
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guard but certainly not anyone creative.
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As far as limiting access on the net, at some age it might be wise to
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involve the child in making decisions about what to block. Of course,
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this would require that reasons be given to the child for such
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censorship and a parent should be aware that the reasons given now will
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be re-examined by the child at an older age - relying on trickery or
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poor logic is unwise.
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As for parental discretion within software that limits children's
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access: if I were the author of such a product, my goal would be to have
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a default setting that would reflect my standards for children or
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possibly what I perceived to be the standards of the parents likely to
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use my product with the option for parents to easily adjust the default
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settings.
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I suspect that many parents think they can take software like
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CyberSitter and plug it in to relieve themselves of the responsibility
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of participating in their child's usage of the net.
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While I think that a child should be allowed the chance to explore the
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net on their own, I also think that a parent who truly cares about a
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child would want to be part of his/her net experience just as they would
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want to be part of other aspects of a child's life. No one would expect
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a parent to take a test for a child or to be at bat for them in a little
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league game. Why expect a parent to act in place of a child's discretion
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on the net?
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IMHO, a child is a person with qualities to be discovered and brought
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out, not some piece of material to be hammered into something you wish
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you could have been.
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If you *must* force some dogma on your children, at least make it
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something that you've thought out rather than some "conventional wisdom"
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that you've unthinkingly accepted.
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:21:51 -0800 (PST)
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From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
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Subject: File 5--Senator plans to ban .gov porn-parodies; new crypto-campaign
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Source - fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu
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Y'all should subscribe to politech.I rarely forward stuff to f-c
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http://www.well.com/~declan/politech
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date--Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:15:35 -0800 (PST)
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To--politech@vorlon.mit.edu
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Subject--Senator plans to ban .gov porn-parodies; new crypto-campaign
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More on Gates in NYC and the FBI's antihacker crusade is at
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the URL below. --Declan
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http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/afternoon/0,1012,1782,00.html
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The Netly News / Afternoon Line
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March 4, 1998
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Loin-cloth
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One lawmaker who doesn't seem to have much of a sense of humor about
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titillating web sites is Sen. Lauch Faircloth (R-N.C.). When his
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presumably technology-impaired staffer stumbled across whitehouse.com
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and found not Hillary Clinton's child care proposals but a doctored
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photo of Hillary in leather, Faircloth decided to take action. "I plan
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to introduce legislation that would ban the assignment of popular
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government agency names to anyone," he told The Netly News after
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speaking at an Internet child safety seminar this afternoon. "Can you
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imagine how many people have thought they were contacting the White
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House only to see that?" A better question might be which site is the
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more popular one. --By Declan McCullagh/Washington
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Might Makes Right
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Congress rarely does the right thing for the right reason.Instead,
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lobbyists vie to make voting the wrong way too politically costly for
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legislators.
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Now a new coalition, called Americans for Computer Privacy, is
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trying out this strategy on encryption legislation. The group of high
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tech firms and nonprofit groups aims to convince lawmakers that
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supporting restrictions on either the domestic use or overseas
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shipment of encryption productions is too politically painful.
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"We would not turn the keys to our front doors over the
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government. Why should we have to turn over the keys to our
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computers?" asked ACP counsel and former White House lawyer Jack
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Quinn.
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To convince Americans that ACP's answer is the right one, the
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coalition has gathered together an advisory panel of former spooks and
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law enforcement agents.
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Quinn told the Netly News that his strategy has already won
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results--"Senior officials at the National Security Council and the
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vice president's office" this morning signaled they're willing to sit
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down at the table for a friendly chat about crypto-laws. --By Declan
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McCullagh/Washington
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:35:49 -0500
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From: morgan@shore.net
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Subject: File 6--ACM Policy 98 Conference coming in May
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We hope you can join us for this exciting conferrence!
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For more press information, please contact Tina Angelone at
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angelone@hq.acm.org
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or visit http://www.acm.org/policy98/
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-- Chris Morgan
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+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
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ACM Information Alert
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+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
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ASSOCIATION FOR COMPUTING MACHINERY
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* * * POLICY '98 CONFERENCE * * *
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http://www.acm.org/policy98/
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"Shaping Policy in the Information Age"
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Washington, DC, Renaissance Hotel
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May 10-12, 1998
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Register now for the one computing policy conference you don't
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want to miss...featuring:
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- Senator Orrin Hatch (invited): Future of Intellectual Property
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- Special Advisor to the President Ira Magaziner: White House Report
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- Representative Vern Ehlers (invited): Reformulating US Science Policy
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- Representative Constance Morella: The Role of the Federal Government
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in Computing
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- Assistant Director Juris Hartmanis: The Role of the National Science
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Foundation in Computing Policy
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- Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Communications and Information
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Larry Irving: Universal Service
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- Debate: Esther Dyson and Gary Chapman
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- ACM Presidential Award for founding NetDay: John Gage, Sun
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Microsystems
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- Making Science Policy: Roundtable with NPR Correspondent Dan Charles
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The ACM Policy '98 Conference will focus on public policy issues
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affecting future applications of computing. Our goal is to
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forge stronger links between computing professionals and policy
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makers. Attendees will interact with prominent leaders from
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academia, industry, Congress, and Executive agencies, and
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participate in debates on policy issues including:
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- Universal Access - Electronic Commerce
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- Intellectual Property - Education Online
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All Policy '98 attendees are invited to the Annual ACM Awards
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Banquet on Sunday evening May 10th, and a conference reception
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on Monday evening May 11th at the new headquarters of the
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American Association for the Advancement of Science.
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Register online at
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http://www.acm.org/policy98/
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or write to policy98@acm.org. Early registrants and
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ACM members receive discounts. A limited number of
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low-priced student registrations are available.
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Conference Chairs - Ben Shneiderman, Dianne Martin
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Program Chairs - Marc Rotenberg, Keith Miller
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Panel Moderators - Jim Horning, Pamela Samuelson,
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Charles Brownstein, Oliver Smoot
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USACM Chair - Barbara Simons
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:03:35 GMT
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From: "Richard K. Moore" <rkmoore@iol.ie>
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Subject: File 7--ANNOUNCEMENT: Democratic Renaissance / International Workshop
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* Workshop Announcement *
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- please distribute globally -
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~-===================================================-~
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Seeking an Effective Democratic
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Response to Globalization
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and Corporate Power
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an international workshop for activist leaders
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Summer 1998, Canada -- details available soon
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Organized by: Citizens for a Democratic Renaissance
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~-===================================================-~
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WHO WE ARE...
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We are an informal association of concerned citizens from around the
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world who are dedicated to overcoming corporate domination through the
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revitalization of constitutional democracy.
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OUR MISSION...
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is to work with people and organizations everywhere to help
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bring about an historic transition from this "Era of Corporate Hegemony"
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to a new "Era of Democratic Renaissance".
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WHY WE ARE SPONSORING THIS WORKSHOP...
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The purpose of the workshop is to begin a global consensus-building
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process among diverse activist groups -- to develop a shared perspective
|
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on globalization and a common strategy for effective democratic counter-
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measures. This process will be continued in larger follow-on conferences
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and in other ways, aiming toward the the creation of a potent political
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movement...
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The Global Coalition for a Democratic Renaissance
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~-===============================================================-~
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Manifesto for a
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Democratic Renaissance
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(1) Corporate globalization is leading the world to disaster and
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something MUST be done about it. Corporate influence has corrupted
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our democracies, undermined our sovereignties, bankrupted our govern-
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ments and is destroying the very earth our survival depends upon.
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(2) The very success of corporate globalism in subjugating everyone
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to its agenda has created the potential for a massive counter-movement,
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a peaceful democratic counter-revolution on a global scale.
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(3) Political activists must rise to the challenge of this strategic
|
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opportunity -- it is time to move beyond our special-interest
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causes and find a path to solidarity and the collaborative pursuit
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of shared objectives. Foremost among our tasks is to build bridges
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across the gulfs dividing factions such as liberals & conservatives,
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believers & non-believers, labor & environmentalists, etc.
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We are all in this together!
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(4) Overcoming corporate globalism calls for more than protest or
|
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resistance -- it requires a different vision for the world, a
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coherent agenda which can provide sustainable prosperity and
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which avoids chaos during the historic transition.
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(5) That vision and agenda must be based on the establishment of
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healthy democratic processes in our individual nations and on
|
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the realization that sustainable economics and respect for the
|
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environment are not just good ideas, but are rather necessities
|
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for human survival.
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~-===============================================================-~
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About the workshop..
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This initial workshop will be very small, limited to approximately
|
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fifty invited delegates. We are seeking a "representative sample"
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of activist leaders from every corner of the world, representing
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diverse constituencies and all walks of life. This workshop will be
|
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held in English, but we are developing the capability to support
|
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multiple languages in future events.
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The reason for the small size is to ensure that everyone will be heard
|
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and to encourage an atmosphere of comradarie and focused endeavor.
|
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Workshop deliberations will be based on the principle of consensus,
|
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ensuring that no one is coerced and that no viewpoints are ignored.
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The workshop will be one week in duration. Meals and accommodations
|
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will be provided on-site and local volunteers will enable us to keep
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workshop fees to a minimum. Staff and other locals, including indigenous
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tribal members, will join us for evening activities, which will emphasize
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sharing of cultural traditions through conversation, music, dance, and
|
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story telling.
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A web page on our server will be dedicated to the workshop, and daily
|
|
bulletins will be published, including session reports and delegate
|
|
interviews. An email list will be dedicated to discussion of the
|
|
workshop, and netizens everywhere are invited to participate remotely
|
|
via these facilities.
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|
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A professional and unobtrusive film crew will be in attendance to record
|
|
selected workshop activities and to interview delegates and others.
|
|
A broadcast-quality documentary will be produced to promote the coalition
|
|
and will be made available at a nominal fee for non-commercial use. We
|
|
will also seek broadcast, cable, and video distribution worldwide.
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|
|
|
The workshop process will begin before the workshop actually convenes.
|
|
As delegates are recruited, email and fax will be used to introduce
|
|
delegates to one another and to begin substantive discussions.
|
|
Session details will be settled in this way and a draft manifesto
|
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will be developed on a collaborative basis.
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|
|
Sessions will generally begin with a panel presentation and then open
|
|
up to general discussion. We will break up into smaller groups fre-
|
|
quently to enable all delegates to contribute and to facilitate the
|
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consensus process. Session descriptions may change depending on
|
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delegate interest and willingness to participate on panels.
|
|
________________________________________________
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Provisional session descriptions...
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* OPENING CEREMONY - traditional spiritual-alignment
|
|
ceremony led by local indigenous tribal leaders
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|
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* GETTING ACQUAINTED - delegate self-intros, description
|
|
of activities and organizations, statement of intentions
|
|
regarding workshop and coalition; discussion of workshop
|
|
process and agenda
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|
|
* GLOBALIZATION AND CORPORATE POWER - presentation:
|
|
capsule history of corporate power and the rise of globalization,
|
|
with an emphasis on sovereignty and democracy; discussion of
|
|
globalization and its consequences; special presentation by anti-
|
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MAI activist delegates
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|
|
|
* POLITICS AND DEMOCRACY - comparison of political and
|
|
electoral systems in delegates' countries; discussion of reform
|
|
agendas; discussion of media propaganda and the growth of
|
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factionalism; special presentation on Cuban system by Cuban
|
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delegate(s)
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|
|
* INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS - presentation: capsule history
|
|
of imperialism, the postwar pax-americana regime, and hi-tech
|
|
neo-interventionism; discussion of the linkage between these
|
|
developments and globalization generally, especially in light
|
|
of (elite strategist) Samuel P. Huntington's KulturKampf agenda;
|
|
special focus on Middle East, including delegates from that
|
|
region
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|
|
* TOWARD A SENSIBLE WORLD - panel reports and general dis-
|
|
cussion of ecosystems, economics, technology, sustainability, and
|
|
prosperity; discussion of reform agendas and priorities;
|
|
discussion
|
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of how to implement reform incrementally, without causing chaos
|
|
in the process; discussion of international relations based on
|
|
the
|
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paradigm of collaboration
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|
|
* ADOPTION OF CONSENSUS MANIFESTO - discussion,
|
|
amendment, and adoption of documents which have been
|
|
previously developed via email, fax, etc. by delegates
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|
|
|
* COALITION LAUNCH - for those delegates who are ready to
|
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commit, there will be a ceremonial declaration of collaborative
|
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solidarity in pursuit of the goals of the manifesto. These
|
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delegates will then be the charter members of:
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|
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The Global Coalition for a Democratic Renaissance
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|
|
* GETTING ON WITH THE REVOLUTION - discussion of
|
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coalition-building and of movement strategy; identification
|
|
of initial constituencies to be recruited to the coalition;
|
|
break up into affinity groups to discuss joint endeavors and
|
|
to commit to initial joint objectives; reconvene and discuss
|
|
reports of affinity groups; closing discussion
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|
|
* CLOSING CEREMONY - traditional endeavor-blessing
|
|
ceremony led by local indigenous tribal leaders
|
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|
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* farewell "rebel-rousing" party in honor of staff
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|
|
________________________________________________
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If you are interested...
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|
|
|
If you are an activist leader who is interested in being a delegate, if
|
|
you want to recommend a candidate, or if you want to be kept in the
|
|
loop on developments -- please contact us at cadre@cyberjournal.org.
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|
|
And please visit our our website "cj/cadre", more formally known as
|
|
http://cyberjournal.org/cadre
|
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Sincerely Yours,
|
|
Citizens for a Democratic Renaissance (CADRE)
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|
Richard K. Moore richard@cyberjournal.org
|
|
Freelance writer & political analyst
|
|
US citizen residing in Ireland
|
|
Editor, cyberJournal@cpsr.org
|
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Chair, CADRE
|
|
Co-author, cj/cadre
|
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|
|
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful
|
|
committed citizens can change the world,
|
|
indeed it's the only thing that ever has."
|
|
|
|
- Margaret Mead
|
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|
|
Carolyn Ballard cballard@cetlink.net
|
|
Freelance writer, South Carolina, USA
|
|
Co-author & editor, cj/cadre
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|
|
"You write in order to change the world. The world
|
|
changes according to the way people see it, and if you
|
|
can alter, even by a millimeter, the way...people look
|
|
at
|
|
reality, then you can change it."
|
|
|
|
- James Baldwin
|
|
|
|
Jan Slakov jslakov@TartanNET.ns.ca
|
|
Peace and environmental activist, Nova Scotia, Canada
|
|
Liaison to organizations affiliated with CADRE
|
|
|
|
"Returning violence for violence multiplies violence,
|
|
adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of
|
|
stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light
|
|
can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can
|
|
do that."
|
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|
|
-Martin Luther King
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|
|
Chris Thorman chris@thorman.com
|
|
Administrator, cyberjournal.org
|
|
|
|
"Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it;
|
|
Boldness has genius, power and magic in it."
|
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|
|
- Goethe
|
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|
________________________________________________________________
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|
|
~-==============================================-~
|
|
Restore democratic sovereignty.
|
|
Create a sane and livable world.
|
|
Bring corporate globalization under control.
|
|
|
|
Citizens for a Democratic Renaissance
|
|
http://cyberjournal.org/cadre
|
|
mailto:cadre@cyberjournal.org
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Date: Thu, 7 May 1997 22:51:01 CST
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