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Computer underground Digest Sun Jan 20, 1996 Volume 8 : Issue 06
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ISSN 1004-042X
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Editors: Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer (TK0JUT2@MVS.CSO.NIU.EDU
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Archivist: Brendan Kehoe
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Shadow Master: Stanton McCandlish
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Field Agent Extraordinaire: David Smith
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Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth
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Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala
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Ian Dickinson
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Cu Digest Homepage: http://www.soci.niu.edu/~cudigest
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CONTENTS, #8.06 (Sun, Jan 20, 1996)
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File 1-- CYBERANGELS (in re: CuD 8.04)
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File 2--AOL Banned Poetry Dispute Heats UP
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File 3--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 16 Dec, 1995)
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CuD ADMINISTRATIVE, EDITORIAL, AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION APPEARS IN
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THE CONCLUDING FILE AT THE END OF EACH ISSUE.
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Date: Thu, Jan 18, 1996 5:36 PM EDT
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From: GANetWatch
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Subject: File 1-- CYBERANGELS (in re: CuD 8.04)
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I found Paul Kniesel's article about the Guardian/Cyber Angels
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highly subjective and misinformed, and in need of a reply.
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The CyberAngel's project is not as Paul suggests a "New York
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story" at all. It is in fact coordinated by me from Los
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Angeles, and I am in fact English. I am a member of the Board
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of Directors of the Guardian Angels and I am the CyberAngels
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Director. I have been patrolling and training with the
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organization for 7 years now and I am also the Director of
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Training worldwide. I have extensive experience with the
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Guardian Angels at both street patrol and administrative levels
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in Europe (England, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, France, Italy) and
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in the USA (especially in New York City, San Francisco and Los
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Angeles). I have been working with the Internet for two years.
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That just to let you know that I am writing as someone who runs
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the Guardian Angels organization and heads up the Internet
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project.
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Firstly on the Guardian Angels. It appears that Paul's method is
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to discredit the CyberAngels by first discrediting its parent
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organization. He suggests that the Guardian Angels is a right
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wing, ultra-conservative, even fascist organization ("vigilante",
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"swastika pin", "Germanic Iron Cross pins"); that the Guardian
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Angels has a long history of law-breaking and human rights
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violations; and also that the Guardian Angels represents the
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interests of a ruling "business" class, and is even "employed" by
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this class against the rest of the population.
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It should be noted that the largest Guardian Angels group in the
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world today is in Berlin Germany, where the group has been
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running for three years. The group was established there as a
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direct response to the racial violence that has developed in
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Berlin since the Berlin Wall came down. The Berlin group is and
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has always been in the forefront of anti-racist and anti-violence
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activity in the city. Displayed prominently on our information
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brochure is a quotation from the United Nations Declaration on
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Human Rights: "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and
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security of person." On the front of an earlier brochure was
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printed "Against violence; against racism; against sexism." In a
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city where the neo-nazi movement is extremely powerful, the
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Berlin city government publicly supports the Guardian Angels and
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holds them up as a role model to all German youth for what the
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Germans call "Civil courage," that is for taking civil
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responsibility and for standing up and doing something about the
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violence that plagues the country. The Guardian Angels in
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Germany is in the forefront of anti-racist education for young
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German kids.
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I might also note in passing that the most visible support for
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the Guardian Angels in New York City comes from the Jewish
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community, and the awards to the group from citizens groups,
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police departments and mayors' offices cover the walls of the NYC
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office. Also, in Los Angeles just before Christmas 1995 the
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Guardian Angels received a special award from the LAPD, for being
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"Neighborhood Watch Group of the Year". If we were lawbreakers,
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why would we receive such honors?
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The Guardian Angels is an all volunteer, multi-ethnic, unarmed,
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non-political organization registered in the USA as a non-profit
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501 (C)(3) organization, and registered in Germany as a charity
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("verein") with humanitarian aims.
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This status is simply not given to racist, law-breaking,
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vigilante, oppressive, violent political groups.
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And by the way, the Angels remains a financially poor
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organization, precisely because we have never sold out to rich
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controlling interests. We are independent and will always remain
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so.
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In all cities where we work we have the support of the
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communities in whose areas we patrol, because without that
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support we simply do not and cannot patrol those areas. The
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whole concept of the Angels is to assist communities in taking
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their streets back from the criminals. It is all about
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empowerment, not about oppression. Certainly some people suffer
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as a result of Guardian Angels patrols - the drug dealers cannot
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deal. The crack buyers cannot buy.
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The muggers cannot attack the innocent. Sexual predators go
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home still hungry. Gangbangers find their destructive activities
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prevented. We are proud to be denying these people their
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"freedom" to destroy neighborhoods by preying upon the weaker
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members of the community. In the war against crime being fought
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on the streets there will be losers. We cannot give the
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community the right to be free from violence, crime and terror
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and also give the criminal the right to hurt, rob and terrorize
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the community. The United Nations Declaration on Human Rights
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makes it quite clear which side we must choose. The rights of
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the criminal and the rights of the victim are in many cases and
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situations mutually exclusive.
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"The Guardian Angels' conservative political organizing in the
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guise of simple crime fighting continues with the CyberAngels"
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says Paul Kniesel.
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Excuse me Paul but our aim is quite clear and we are not nor
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ever have been a political organization. The CyberAngels
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membership includes everyone from conservatives through liberals
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to radical leftists and anarchists. If we were a political group
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we would disintegrate immediately since there are so many
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different opinions represented in the group. We are united by a
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common goal - to fight crime on the Internet, and especially to
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fight against child pornography. Every society requires laws and
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every society has criminal predators who prey on others,
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violating their basic human rights. The Internet is no
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different.
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Paul writes: "Anti-Klan activists may want to know that a simple
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invitation extended over the internet for a 20-year-old to attend
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a showing of the film _Shindler's List_ falls into a category of
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behavior the CyberAngels have targeted, for it involves "try[ing]
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to arrange physical rendezvous with children."
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Paul this is simply nonsense. I don't even consider it worth
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answering.
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As for the freedom of speech issue: the US Supreme Court has
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consistently ruled that many many kinds of crimes (and
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particularly child pornography) are not protected by the US First
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Amendment protecting freedom of speech and expression. Making a
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death threat to another person is actually a crime. It is not an
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exercise in First Amendment rights. Likewise child pornography
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is not "freedom of expression". It is crime evidence. If you
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don't believe me Paul then try sending some to the FBI with your
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name on it, and see what happens to you next.
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Pedophiles have *tried* using the First Amendment in their
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defense in court and they have failed repeatedly.
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Of course the variable here is who defines what is the crime?
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The Courts of course. Certainly not CyberAngels. But we claim
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our constitutional rights to question what we see, and to put
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that question to relevant authorities.
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In the case of the Internet this is the ISPs.
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Isn't it time we all stopped perpetuating this myth that the
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Internet is a free society? It is controlled by ISPs and ISPs
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are regulated by InterNic.
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The user is bound by Terms of Service and is responsible to the
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ISP for good behavior. Irresponsible ISPs can be reported to
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InterNic which grants domain names. And who owns InterNic? (I
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have heard some interesting rumors). My point is that the
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infrastructure is already there to deal with every kind of abuse
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(which actually means we do not need new government legislation -
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we just need Net users to communicate with ISPs) The problem is
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that it is not happening. So many people complaining about
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government censorship - well it would not be happening if the
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Internet Community had taken care of itself and dealt with the
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cyberpredators. Now of course it is probably too late.
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Sysadmins are the nearest thing we have to cybercops on the Net.
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They have the power to enforce terms of Service and to discipline
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members who break those terms. So why don't they? Is the profit
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motive too strong? Or is it simply that the ISPs need the help
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of the Net community to report possible cybercrimes to them?
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Paul quotes us on anonymity: ""We are anonymous in cyberspace,"
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proclaim the CyberAngels to their potential volunteers, while
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simultaneously organizing against anonymity. For, the Angels also
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write that "when people are anonymous they are also free to be
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criminals."
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We are not "organizing against anonymity", and we totally believe
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in individual privacy. We believe that people have a right to
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anonymity *but they lose that right when they have committed a
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crime*. Of course we are not anonymous in cyberspace (I simply
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was pointing out that we do not announce in IRC live channels for
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example that we are cyberangels) - we all have user ids and can
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all be reported to our ISPs if we violate Internet codes.
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Not so some of the people who have been writing to me, sending
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me death threats, email bombs etc. They are untraceable, and
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*that* is what we object to. I was recently subscribed to over
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400 mailing lists (someone forged my address) and ended up with
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*12000* pieces of junk mail to deal with, and it is still pouring
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in. This is a deliberate and planned attempt to destroy our
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project. Now the persons responsible are untraceable. They are
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and remain anonymous. Why should this be permitted? Paul
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doesn't really support these people's right to break ISP Terms of
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Service and to abuse my account in this way, do you Paul? Do you
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think the First Amendment gives these people the right to destroy
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my Internet account and remain anonymous? Of course the reason
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they remain anonymous is because they know their actions are
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unacceptable to the Net community.
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When we complained about anonymity we were talking about tracing
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users who break laws back to their ISPs. Without this ability
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criminals are untouchable. I already commented before that
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anonymous remailer sysadmins have been more responsible when
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dealing with abuses of anonymity than other ISPs. Paul, if a
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person sends you a death threat to your email address, do you not
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have the right to forward it to their ISP with a letter of
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complaint?
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Of course you do. And that is what we are campaigning for. I
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bet if Paul got mail bombed 12000 times he would like to be able
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to trace the guilty person. But ,Paul, doesn't our mail bomb
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abuser have a right to anonymity?
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Shouldn't we leave him/her/them alone on the grounds that they
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were only exercising their constitutional rights? Of course
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not.
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We support the Wiesenthal Centre's position that while hate
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groups have a right to speak their hatred (freedom of speech), no
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ISP should be compelled to allow access to hate-sites. It's up
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to the ISP to decide what kind of access it will offer. And on
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the same subject - full marks to Europe Online for offering a
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pornography free environment to its users. It's their choice
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what to offer and what to screen. Paul may not like it. Fine
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Paul, then don't subscribe to it. You may choose to live in a
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cyberneighborhood infested with child pornographers and other
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criminals. That's your choice.
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But I hope you are going to do something about them and not just
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expend all your energy abusing the "do-goods" as you call us.
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Paul has some interesting theories about pedophiles joining the
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CyberAngels in order to get their hands on child pornography.
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Paul why would they do that? They already *have* their hands on
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child pornography. Paul argues that CyberAngels have some kind
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of immunity from the law on possession and trading of child
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pornography. Do we Paul? Let me tell you we keep our hard drive
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clean from such images. And our floppy disks. We have no
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database of stored images. Anything we have received we have
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forwarded immediately to the relevant ISP and then deleted from
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our hard drive. And yes we also erase our hard drive free space
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regularly. A journalist recently asked me why we do that. I
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answered "Precisely so that journalists cannot accuse us of
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collecting images for our own use." If you had asked me Paul I
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could have told you...
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Paul writes: "Laws signed last month significantly increased
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penalties for possession and manufacture of "kiddie porn" when
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electronic media are involved. What happens when the CyberAngels
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themselves possess or participate in the electronic transfer of
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such material? The CyberAngels specifically request that "copies
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of all actions taken [by their volunteers] are forwarded to us."
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Paul, actually we do not ask people to send us graphic files of
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child pornography. In fact if they do we ask them not to. We
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ask only for the place where the picture is posted (e.g. the
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newsgroup, date and userid and name of file). There have been
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times when we have entered live channels without announcing we
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are CyberAngels, and have consequently received numerous illegal
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graphic files. These files are immediately sent to the ISPs and
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then deleted and erased.
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Later Paul writes: "Unfortunately, CyberAngels have a strange
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notion of what constitutes "kiddie porn," confusing the technical
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nature of graphics files with pornography itself. Angels maintain
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that the popular "gif" storage format is really a code-word for
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"girlie" pictures while the other "jpeg" format is similarly a
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disguised communication for sexual picture files of males."
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First of all Paul your use of the expression "kiddie porn" I find
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very offensive. *Child pornography* involves the destruction of
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young lives and I think "kiddie porn" is an expression that
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trivializes the issue. Secondly your comment about us not
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knowing what a GIF or JPEG is is nonsense. I don't know where
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you got that from, but it was certainly not from the people
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running this project. I am fully aware of graphic formats Paul
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and I am quite capable of identifying graphic files that should
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be sent to ISPs.
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Perhaps Paul doesn't realize that our CyberAngels are made up of
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everyone from Newbies to Sysadmins and hackers. It's a worldwide
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alliance of about 300 people, including ISP directors, software
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developers and even police officers. Paul is proposing a myth
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that CyberAngels are somehow "outside" the Net community, i.e.
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ignorant outsiders. Guess what Paul, "we" *are* the Net
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community, and remain so whether or not you agree with our work.
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A few words on Safesurf, presented by Paul as a source of
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"Corporate funding". Gosh Paul, we could really *do* with some
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Corporate funding actually, and so could Safesurf, since we are
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both small struggling groups run by tiny staff and without much
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in the way of resources. The entire CyberAngels project
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worldwide for example is coordinated from just one small Mac
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Powerbook 150. Not much corporate funding there eh? And we are
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doing more from that little powerbook than a lot of corporations
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with multi million dollar turnovers.
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And Paul, what are these "commodities" that Safesurf are selling?
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I'm not aware of any. I am aware however that they are right
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there at the cutting edge of parental education about the
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Internet. And they have been in the forefront of the development
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of screening software so that parents can gain some measure of
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control on what their child can access on the Net. And we
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supported them from the moment we read their Home Page, because
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they are good people looking after their community. Safesurf is
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clearly an organization that Paul knows little about. Paul I
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suggest you contact them and get involved in a debate, because
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your comments do not suggest to me that you know what Safesurf
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are doing. They are certainly *not* owning and transferring
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"kiddie porn" in the guise of selling Safesurf's products. That
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is an outrageous accusation and I wouldn't be surprised if
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Safesurf consulted their attorney on that groundless accusation
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with a view to legal action.
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Paul presents no evidence for this libel, nor could he find any
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if he tried. And what "Safesurf products" are these Paul that
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you claim we are promoting? Do you actually know of any? I
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don't and I work with Safesurf!
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Finally, our position is not to argue in cyber cafes about how
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much child pornography there is on the Net. As if we could say
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that "such and such a level is acceptable" but "such and such a
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level is not". Our point Paul is that child pornography *exists*
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on the Net and it is a great evil and we seek its elimination.
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And we seek its elimination not by government censorship but by
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Internet peer pressure, ISP disciplinary actions and FBI
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prosecution.
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Internet peer pressure means that users have to *do* something,
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not ignore child pornography on the Usenet on the grounds that
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it's someone else's business, but to start confronting abusers
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and criminals. ISP action means actively communicating to ISP
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sysadmins and troubleshooters and demanding that Terms of Service
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are enforced on users who are out of order. I repeat - the
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structure is there for a safer Internet, but too many are still
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operating purely for their own pleasure. The Net "Community" is
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a lot smaller than we all think. A community has to be created;
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it has bonds; and responsibilities; and people look out for one
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another; and violence and crime and hatred and abuse is not
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tolerated. I think we on the Net have a long way to go yet.
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And by the way, when I say "abuse" I am not referring to bad
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language. I am referring to abuses of other people's basic human
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rights. Sending death threats is an "abuse". Spamming mailing
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lists is an "abuse". Paul I am not afraid to see bad language in
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a newsgroup.
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Arguing for a society where everyone can just do whatever they
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like means that some people *will* trample on the rights of
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others. An internet with no law and no law enforcement will
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never become a"community".
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And as for your last point about how outrageous it is when
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minorities argue their case and attempt to change majorities'
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views...surely Paul, that is called democracy. And we support
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it. Is Paul arguing that minority groups should be denied a
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voice? On what grounds? That they might actually influence the
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mainstream? God what a terrible thought... that seems a little
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contradictory.
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The Internet reflects the rest of the world. It follows that
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therefore it will not be crime-free, and it also follows that as
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a society it requires laws and law enforcement. It's easy to
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criticise the police and the government but the fact remains that
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any society without law and law enforcement is a hell on earth.
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We are not living in the Garden of Eden any more Paul. Ask the
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growing number of victims of cybercrimes.
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This is the Internet - welcome to the *real* world.
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Colin Gabriel Hatcher
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CyberAngels Director
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 96 04:28:15 0400
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From: "Stephen A.Williamson" <stephenw@ESCAPE.COM>
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Subject: File 2--AOL Banned Poetry Dispute Heats UP
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This is a long post, but on an important issue -- free
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espression in cyberspace. Some of you know of the dispute, to
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others it will be a surprise.
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It's our purpose not only support the poets on AOL, but
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generate a deeping dialog with individuals on this issue. I
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appreciate the exchange we have had so far with so many
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editors .
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This dispute has been long in the making and now it is about
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to hit "the papers" or maybe not.Who knows.
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If you get message duped for some reason I want to doubly
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apologize, it's certainly not intentional.
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Again thanks for your time on this,
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MY Best
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Stephen Williamson
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Motley Focus Locus
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AfterNoon Magazine
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Here follows an account of the AOL Banned Poetry Dispute.
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The dispute is escalating and intensifying, as it is about to
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go public.
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The first document is the Motley Focus Locus editors' letter
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explaining the
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issue to selected e-zine editors and publishers last Sunday.
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The second is
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the contact letter from the CCA member to the Motley Focus
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that started our
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involvement. We ourselves are not members of CCA.
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The third document is the Creative Coalition on AOL's Press
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Release for
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Tues., Jan. 15.
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The best place to follow the dispute and get a sense of what
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happened if
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you are hearing about if for the first time (or want the
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latest
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developments) are the
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"Free Expression and AOL" and "Archive of Poetry Banned by
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AOL" in the
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"Letters" section of AfterNoon Magazine:
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http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber/aol.html
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"Free Expression and AOL includes the chain of correspondence
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between Motley
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Focus and CCA and the responses of some editors we have
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contacted.
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The "Archive of Petry Banned by AOL" has extensive logs of
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banned poems &
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TOS letters.
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If you are not familiar with AOL procedures, it'll take a
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while to understand
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the jargon, but wade directly in and it eventually becomes
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clear.
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It is a surrealistic and curious world that AOL has created
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for its poets.
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Something can be gained of the real sense and feeling of the
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dispute by
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reading through it, rather just "hearing" that AOL is banning
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poems.
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The CCA seems to us to have grown to about fifty poets.
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Judging from the
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|
latest letters we have recieved, AOL appears determined to
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throw the ring
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leaders off their service. The CCA poets, feeling that AOL is
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where they
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have met and established a sort of cybercommunity of poets,
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are refusing
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submit to
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AOL's new rules or to leave quietly.
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The last piece we have included is Motley Focus Locus' letter
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to civil
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liberties attorneys and organizations we have been in contact
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with, and our
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Motley argument in support of free speech even on a private
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service such
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as AOL.
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This may be a tempest in a teapot, but we believe it is also
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something
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unique and interesting -- the first organized cyberspace
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rebellion against
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a huge
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provider's control of the content of speech appearing on their
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service.
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I'm sure that CCA members would appreciate any support you'd
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be willing to
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give them.
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Thanks for taking the time with this
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Stephen Williamson
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William Timberman
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Motley Focus Locus -- http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber
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AfterNoon Magazine -- http://www.mot
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...........
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Sun Jan 7- Mon- Jan 8
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Dear E-zine Editor,
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I received the following letter on Friday from a writer who
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had seen our ad
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for Motley Focus Locus and AfterNoon Magazine in "Poets and
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Writers," and
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had submitted poetry to us, which we had turned down.
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It's an account of an expanding attempt by AOL to tighten
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control over a poets'
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group there, and it charges that an extreme degree of
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censorship has developed
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recently -- that they've even removed a poem because it
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included the word
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"breast."
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We have no involvement in this writers' group and like many
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|
people on the
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|
Net, we think that trying to do a poets' group on AOL will
|
|
inevitably lead
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to problems. I keep an address on AOL for submissions
|
|
purposes, and as an
|
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E-mail backup when my service provider is down, but its "Terms
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|
of Service"
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|
make publishing there out of the question for us.
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|
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Nevertheless, this writer's anguish seems deeply felt and
|
|
AOL's response to
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it completely inadequate.
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We wrote a number editors last month about forming an
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Association of Electronic
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|
Magazines, and here, arriving on our electronic doorstep, is
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correspondence
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which shows one more reason to seriously consider doing so.
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This is not an issue of writing quality, but of freedom of
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|
expression.
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It's understandable that these writers (mostly new and less
|
|
experienced, I
|
|
suspect) don't want to be forced off AOL, where their group is
|
|
visible and
|
|
can
|
|
attract new members freshly arriving on the Web. Here they've
|
|
not only
|
|
gotten support from one another, but have been able to
|
|
accomplish something
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|
which we believe is important for all of us.
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|
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The long and the short of it is that we hate to see a few
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|
large
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|
corporations gain control over information, and restrict the
|
|
freedom of
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|
expression of new arrivals to Internet.
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|
The correspondence follows. I've edited it very slightly to
|
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avoid
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|
repetition, and in a couple of spots added in material left
|
|
out when I
|
|
chopped off some not-so-well-written responses while on line.
|
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|
|
If these writers can produce an example of AOL's turning down
|
|
a poem for
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|
including the word "breast," or even less extreme examples,
|
|
then I think
|
|
they have a case which they should take public. Even if they
|
|
don't, the
|
|
issue of intellectual freedom remains the same. AOL has
|
|
stopped responding
|
|
to my
|
|
letters -- perhaps with good reason. Maybe a few letters from
|
|
you would get
|
|
them to consider starting up a dialog about this again.
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Thanks for your consideration,
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|
Stephen Williamson
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Motley Focus Locus -- http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber
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AfterNoon Magazine --
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http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber/afternoon.html
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Subj: CCA
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Date: Thu, Jan 4, 1996 6:46 PM EDT
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From: dwaink@iquest.net
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X-From: dwaink@iquest.net (Dwain Kitchel)
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To: SAWStephen@aol.com
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Sir;
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|
I saw your e-mail address in this months Poets&Writers and I
|
|
thought I
|
|
would contact you. My name is Dwain Kitchel and I am writting
|
|
you about an
|
|
AOL group of poets. If you are unaware there is a poetry
|
|
section on AOL
|
|
under "Writers"(go to word). I was on AOL for over a year, and
|
|
must admit I
|
|
came to enjoy the company of the poets there. Some are true
|
|
writers!
|
|
But in the last 3 months all this has changed, as the Exon
|
|
bill has
|
|
prodded Steve Case into a new round of censorship. Poetry has
|
|
been pulled
|
|
for no rhyme or reason, and posts with only one questional
|
|
word, breast,
|
|
have been lifted under TOS rules. Now I would agree with the
|
|
statement that
|
|
as members we signed up for these rules but they have been
|
|
changing without
|
|
notice, and posts are pulled that don't really even contain
|
|
vulgarity.
|
|
My point to this message is that a group of poets have
|
|
formed a group
|
|
called CCA(Creative Coalition on AOL) to fight the powers that
|
|
be. Our first
|
|
goal is the creation of a child proof place to post poetry
|
|
without concern
|
|
for censorship. Such a place is the ACLU section on AOL,
|
|
secondly to get
|
|
some statement of exactly what is a TOSable post(sans the
|
|
quasi "list" of
|
|
bad words that changes daily and is never posted), and thirdly
|
|
if possible,
|
|
to send Steve Case back to Congress with the message "Free
|
|
speech must be
|
|
alowed on-line!"
|
|
Sir I recognize you may be to busy to resond to this appeal,
|
|
or even
|
|
unwilling to do so. And by no means do I wish to "hound" you
|
|
about it. I
|
|
myself have given up my AOL account in protest so please do
|
|
not misread my
|
|
message. What I am asking is if you have an intrest in this
|
|
matter, please
|
|
help us by joining free and without responsibility(class
|
|
4-non-active
|
|
membership)CCA by writing to CCA Mem@aol.com , and add your
|
|
name to the some
|
|
hundred or so poets listed there already.
|
|
We have tried the normal channels of writting Steve Case and
|
|
THopeB(Writers Area manager)without result and so we are going
|
|
to try and
|
|
mount a campaign to get free speech returned to poets on line.
|
|
You are
|
|
welcome to check out some of the arguments in WWWIII folder in
|
|
Poets Corner,
|
|
though you had better look fast as they are being pulled
|
|
quickly as they
|
|
don't really represent AOL's ideals.
|
|
For questions please contact Procter20@aol.com as Isa is our
|
|
president, or
|
|
her paramor Astralan(Stan Crooks). I myself would be more than
|
|
happy to
|
|
respond to your question but you may now only reach me on the
|
|
Web at
|
|
dwaink@iquest.net.
|
|
Again I thank you kindly for your time and consideration and
|
|
any ideals
|
|
pro or con would be greatly needed. I will also soon be
|
|
checking out your
|
|
web site, though sadly I have not been there yet. Your friend
|
|
and fellow
|
|
poet(perhaps a stretch) Dwain Kitchel.
|
|
.............................................................
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...............
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>>Jordanne Holyoak, Media Directorend)
|
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>>Richard R. Becker (702) 658-6816
|
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>>Davids To Take On Goliath
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>>Writers, Poets And Journalists To Take on AOL
|
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>>
|
|
>>Actions speak louder than words.
|
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>>
|
|
>>In a letter addressing its 4 million members, Steve Case, president and CEO
|
|
>>of America Online (AOL), wrote, "Our strong belief is that we can accomplish
|
|
>>the important goal of protecting children from inappropriate material without
|
|
>>compromising privacy or free speech by empowering parents with a set of
|
|
>>easy-to-use technologies and tools that allow parents to choose the content
|
|
>>that their children can access."
|
|
>>
|
|
>>At the same time, AOL released new Terms of Service (TOS) and Rules of the
|
|
>>Road (ROR) for members to abide by or lose their accounts.
|
|
>>
|
|
>>"To date, I have never seen more restrictive TOS guidelines on AOL," says
|
|
>>Holyoak, spokesperson for the Creative Coalition on AOL. "AOL's new TOS
|
|
>>guidelines completely compromise free speech."
|
|
>>
|
|
>>The Creative Coalition on AOL (CCA) was founded by a little more than a dozen
|
|
>>poets and writers that became concerned about AOL policies when several of
|
|
>>their posted poems were removed from the boards and AOL representatives
|
|
>>issued TOS violation warnings. Too many TOS warnings or violations in an
|
|
>>unspecified area of time, or even one time in some cases, can cause a
|
|
>>subscriber to be barred from AOL's service.
|
|
>>
|
|
>>"Our immediate reaction was to test what words AOL disagreed with," says
|
|
>>Holyoak. "Several of us posted poems we knew would be 'TOSed,' but there were
|
|
>>also many well-structured poems with redeeming qualities."
|
|
>>
|
|
>>In order to explore exactly what was permissible art on-line, one of the
|
|
>>writers who became interested in the poets' complaint, posted a
|
|
>>Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary definition that AOL provides in its
|
|
>>Reference area. The posting earned the writer a TOS warning and the post was
|
|
>>removed from the area these artists had created to explore free speech on
|
|
>>AOL, aptly titled WWIII. Under the profane and vulgar provisions of AOL, CCA
|
|
>>says even classic literature cannot be quoted without fear of TOS violations.
|
|
>>And, new TOS and ROR guidelines have expanded those provisions to encompass
|
|
>>anything that AOL, or any member of their service, does not agree with.
|
|
>>
|
|
>>Since the first WWIII folder was created, members of AOL have filled the
|
|
>>folder with comments (which was only allowed 450 posts at one point) three
|
|
>>times over. Combined, the amount of posts are roughly equivalent to 3
|
|
>>novel-sized manuscripts. Recently, in perhaps an unprecedented move, the
|
|
>>group decided to become organized and founded the CCA on the very server
|
|
>>censoring them.
|
|
>>
|
|
>>"We tried individually writing Steve Case and other AOL representatives
|
|
>>on-line, but largely, AOL ignored us. That's when we knew we had to become
|
|
>>organized," explains Holyoak. "We decided to increase our membership, educate
|
|
>>people about the importance of free speech, and try to convince AOL to
|
|
>>provide a Free Speech area for literary pursuits. All we're really asking is
|
|
>>to be able to speak without the fear of being silenced."
|
|
>>
|
|
>>CCA feels that private industries that promote themselves as a community
|
|
>>should regard free speech with the same vigor as the Constitution. Otherwise,
|
|
>>Holyoak says, attacks on individuals who are different will run wild over the
|
|
>>Internet under the guise of private industry rights.
|
|
>>
|
|
>>"Perhaps it already is," she said, citing a recent American Civil Liberties
|
|
>>Union (ACLU) release that reads: "It appears that AOL's arbitrary standards
|
|
>>may be a little homophobic. While "Wet and Wild" was an unacceptable title
|
|
>>in a gay video catalog, AOL ran an ad in Downtown AOL for Affinity
|
|
>>Teleproductions, Inc. that read: "Now you can join exotic Anna Nicole Smith
|
|
>>on her sensuous Edenquest adventure in her exclusive photo portfolio. . . .
|
|
>> Anna Nicole Smith "The Collectors Set" features ten eye opening Edenquest
|
|
>>photographs in vivid color . . . . It's all Anna Nicole Smith wet and wild
|
|
>>drenched in sun and powder sugar sand. "With Love, Anna Nicole" is your
|
|
>>personal trip to paradise with the world's most exciting woman in her most
|
|
>>provocative photos ever." Other words banned by AOL (that AOL accepted
|
|
>>payment for and allowed to run for 4 weeks of its one year contract) in a gay
|
|
>>video ad included: "pleasure," "black," "hard," "boys," "jock," "Rican,"
|
|
>>"sex," "stud," "straight," "young.""
|
|
>>
|
|
>>Holyoak also says, "AOL constantly solicits its members to participate in
|
|
>>debates and then censors those views or words that they don't agree with.
|
|
>>Additionally, AOL continually contradicts itself by advertising "Cybersex" to
|
|
>>people of all ages, but then claims to have "family values" in regard to a
|
|
>>poem about oppression."
|
|
>>
|
|
>>Currently, officers of CCA are appealing to other groups such as the ACLU
|
|
>> and Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) to assist their cause, saying that
|
|
>>CCA hopes they're as aggressive about free speech as they appear to be.
|
|
>>Additionally, the group is studying court rulings on free speech to build
|
|
>>what will be an undeniable case that AOL cannot ignore. The goal in this is
|
|
>>not to bring class action against AOL, but that their research will glean
|
|
>>some information that will open AOL's eyes or least the eyes of CCA's
|
|
>>critics.
|
|
>>
|
|
>>"We're continually pressured to give up and resign our AOL accounts by some
|
|
>>on-line members," says Holyoak. "But we feel we have a right to request
|
|
>>customer service and refuse to 'sit at the back of the bus' because we have
|
|
>>different views than AOL."
|
|
>>
|
|
>>Although CCA has yet to create a physical address (as it was formed on-line),
|
|
>>its officers welcome supporters who do not subscribe to AOL by sending Email
|
|
>>to "CCA MEM@aol.com." Additionally, there is no membership fee to join this
|
|
>>organization and it does not accept monetary donations.
|
|
>>
|
|
>>
|
|
..........................
|
|
Latest developments:
|
|
|
|
What has happened is this:
|
|
|
|
The poets have gone to other "folders" to complain of their treatment by
|
|
AOL. Often their work has been pulled, or simply disappeared, or they have
|
|
been TOSed for it. Folders of poems have just vanished.
|
|
|
|
About this latest TOS (it's us at the Motley Focus a while to understand
|
|
all this; it's a subculture that we're not part of.):
|
|
|
|
A leader of the CCA, Stan Crooks, has complained about AOL in another
|
|
"folder." Someone named Ronald has denounced him. He has replied in kind
|
|
and AOL's THopeB
|
|
has TOSed him for flaming the other person!
|
|
|
|
It's clear bias. Please look at the exchange. I know it's a little hard
|
|
to follow. AOL is not applying their own rules objectively; they are using
|
|
them in an apparent attempt to build TOS files on individuals whom they
|
|
want thrown off the service, the ringleaders of the AOL Poets' rebellion.
|
|
|
|
Second: Take a look the number of people CCA is forwarding the info to.
|
|
This does not include e-zine editors like AfterNoon, or those we talk to.
|
|
|
|
I'd submit that this is the first cyber-space rebellion. It may seem a
|
|
tempest in the teapot, but all the same, it really is a major event, a
|
|
first. They have actually organized and rebelled -- it's amazing.
|
|
|
|
Here's how an editor, Foster Johnson, who is most hostile to CCA, puts it in
|
|
a letter to me:
|
|
|
|
>The information provided by AOL is AOL's to do with what they please. AOL
|
|
>is not a public access cable channel. If you believe that are attempting to
|
|
>censor and to control information, find another information provider. Get
|
|
>on the real Internet and publish what ever you want, by subscribing to a
|
|
>service provider, not an on-line service. Either play by AOLs rules or avoid
|
|
>using them, complaining will do nothing and eben if you get a thousand
|
|
>editors to flood their customer service e-mail mailbox, AOL want give a
|
|
>"dam*"!
|
|
|
|
Most of us understand what Foster is saying here, and the legal position
|
|
which underlies it: AOL is a private company. People sign on, and if they
|
|
don't like the service they should go somewhere else. That's the narrow
|
|
logic.
|
|
|
|
So why didn't the members of CCA all just quit? Why did all these poets
|
|
stay and fight? What is the logic of their position, the logic that all of
|
|
us logical people are missing? I do think that this point is important.
|
|
Is it really as simple as "they just all made a mistake -- they don't
|
|
understand the way things are."? Will they really, once they're set right
|
|
on this point, just pick up and go somewhere else?
|
|
|
|
I think that there is another explanation, and that it goes back to my
|
|
earlier argument about AOL creating a public "space." For me personally,
|
|
AOL was like the telephone company; I made my calls there. It never
|
|
occurred to me to visit the writers area.
|
|
|
|
These individuals were invited by AOL's advertising to set up their own
|
|
"communities of interest." They accepted the invitation, and over time,
|
|
formed their own cyber-community. They weren't just passing through --
|
|
they "lived" there. It became for these poets a home away from home, where
|
|
they and their friends met and exchanged their work, argued and discussed
|
|
things. What AOL did was to provide a series of public spaces (under their
|
|
control), and people came and built themselves a community. But under
|
|
political pressures, AOL took an increasingly negative interest in what
|
|
they were saying, and began removing their work. That's what brought on
|
|
the rebellion. I'd just ask you to look at how strong and cohesive CCA is,
|
|
even though its members are scattered all over the country, and the
|
|
organization has no physical address.
|
|
|
|
We must listen. It was in certain folders of AOL, in a certain region of
|
|
cyberspace, that their community formed. They don't want to move somewhere
|
|
else; communities seldom do, except in the worst of circumstances.
|
|
|
|
So they appear to some irrational, staying where they are and fighting this
|
|
huge corporation when they can go somewhere else -- if they can learn how.
|
|
I'm
|
|
relatively new to net myself, unlike my partner on the Motley Focus, so I
|
|
have some sympathy with CCA's technical reluctance to move. They are
|
|
fighting back like a community under attack, and I believe that we should
|
|
accept them as such; a community.
|
|
|
|
It's as though a more traditional community with an established identity
|
|
and rights had been hit by some malevolent enclosure act; that's the way
|
|
AOL's behavior has been experienced by the individuals involved. And AOL's
|
|
TOS'es are not derived from the needs of the community that they recruited,
|
|
not from internal problems (flaming back and forth, for example), but from
|
|
political pressure external to the community which has become an
|
|
inconvenience for AOL. It's not a matter of poets or other members of AOL
|
|
complaining to AOL that they want more rules.
|
|
|
|
What strikes me is the cohesiveness of the CCA, given the amazing circumstances
|
|
of this whole affair, and also their moderation (they seem to have tried
|
|
every reasonable avenue and only now are going public.) And what they have
|
|
asked for from AOL is really reasonable. AOL would probably have
|
|
accommodated them, had it not been for the external political pressure.
|
|
|
|
The Motley Focus Locus will continue to archive documentation of this
|
|
dispute on AfterNoon Magazine as we receive it. It is getting hard for us
|
|
to keep up with it all, but CCA will go public on Jan. 15, and they may
|
|
then be able to attract additional support and resources to help them.
|
|
|
|
The "Free Expression and AOL" exchange of letters, and the "AOL Banned
|
|
Poems Archive" is located at http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber/aol.html
|
|
|
|
To restate our argument, which we believe reflects a new appreciation of
|
|
the legality of AOL's "Terms of Service," and a broader understanding of
|
|
what has occurred between AOL and the CCA poets follows. Skip it if you've
|
|
read it before.
|
|
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|
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|
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Our Argument at AfterNoon : A Possible Legal Basis for AOL Poets in their
|
|
Dispute
|
|
|
|
We think that this issue should be used to establish new legal ground.
|
|
Although AOL is a private organization, its size and structure is such that
|
|
they have created a "public" space -- electronic in this case, not
|
|
physical. In a *public* place -- an airport, the public space in the
|
|
private IBM building here in Manhattan -- you can't limit free speech.
|
|
What we need is a new legal definition of what constitutes public and
|
|
private space.
|
|
|
|
Lawyers don't see a legal basis to a challenge at first sight because AOL
|
|
is private. But what is happening in the society at large is an increasing
|
|
intrusion of private space into public space -- the gated communities, the
|
|
private guards, the malls and the rest. As a result, there is a net loss
|
|
of the physical, psychological and electronic areas available to free
|
|
speech, and consequently a threat to public life itself. If you sell off
|
|
the Commons -- where free speech takes place -- then you have decreased
|
|
effective *access* to free speech, even though the Bill of Rights still
|
|
theoretically protects it. You can still say whatever you want -- there is
|
|
just no place to say it where anyone else can hear you. So it is with
|
|
created electronic space; you cannot decrease the overall "availability
|
|
area" without a corresponding erosion of free speech.
|
|
|
|
In AfterNoon's opinion, cyberspace should be considered public -- you may
|
|
need the services of a private company to gain access to it, but the
|
|
company's control over its contents should be limited strictly to matters
|
|
dictated by technical necessity, and their *responsibility* for its
|
|
contents should be limited simply to seeing that what their clients say is
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transmitted or stored or displayed. The clients should be responsible for
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paying the company for its services, and for obeying the existing laws
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regarding libel, intellectual property, obscenity, etc.
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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 1995 22:51:01 CDT
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From: CuD Moderators <cudigest@sun.soci.niu.edu>
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Subject: File 3--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 16 Dec, 1995)
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