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Computer underground Digest Sun Jun 11, 1995 Volume 7 : Issue 48
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ISSN 1004-042X
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Editors: Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer (TK0JUT2@MVS.CSO.NIU.EDU
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Archivist: Brendan Kehoe
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Shadow Master: Stanton McCandlish
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Field Agent Extraordinaire: David Smith
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Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth
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Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala
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Ian Dickinson
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Triviata: How many Spams have C&S Done since April '94?
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CONTENTS, #7.48 (Sun, Jun 11, 1995)
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File 1--Triviata: Any assembly-language programmer would know this!
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File 2--C&S "Special Issue" Delayed a few days
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File 3--(fwd) Directions to F. Am. Teach-In [grab pen] (fwd)
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File 4--ALERT: We have 48 hours left in Senate; please act
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File 5--Re: Protecting Kids on the Internet (CuD 7.47)
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File 6--Can Parents prevent Web page viewing? (Re: CuD 7.46)
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File 7--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 19 Apr, 1995)
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CuD ADMINISTRATIVE, EDITORIAL, AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION APPEARS IN
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THE CONCLUDING FILE AT THE END OF EACH ISSUE.
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 04:17:11 -0400
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From: WaynCotter@AOL.COM
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Subject: File 1--Triviata: Any assembly-language programmer would know this!
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((MODERATORS NOTE: The first correct entry. But two others deserve
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an "A" for effort, even one chomped in reverse)):
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A nibble is one half of a byte. This can also be considered 4 bits, or
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one hexadecimal digit, or one binary-coded-decimal (BCD) digit.
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I was a programmer until 15 years ago. Haven't thought about nibbles
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in a long time. Is this really something I should thank you for?
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Keep up the good work.
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Date--Thu, 08 Jun 1995 18:16:56 -1100
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From--ccc@PIXI.COM(Dan Stetser)
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Subject--Re--Cu Digest, #7.47
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> Triviata-- How many bytes in a nibble?
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Four=20
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Date--Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:30:18 -0400 (EDT)
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From--"Christopher Bertaut (sar)" <bertaut@VIRTU.SAR.USF.EDU>
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Subject--Re--Cu Digest, #7.47
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Triviata answer--There are two bytes in a nibble.
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Date: Thu, 12 June, 1995 21:32:45 CDT
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From: CuD Moderators <jthomas@well.sf.ca.us>
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Subject: File 2--C&S "Special Issue" Delayed a few days
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The response to the Canter and Siegel piece in CuD 7.47 was
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substantial. As a consequence, we are delaying the review of
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their book until mid-week (CuD 7.49). It will be a special issue
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that will likely carry over into a second issue as well.
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 10:59:36 -0500 (CDT)
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From: David Smith <bladex@BGA.COM>
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Subject: File 3--(fwd) Directions to F. Am. Teach-In [grab pen] (fwd)
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I highly recommend this site.
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
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FORWARDED FROM: /mail/cr/croth(#4131) From:croth(Chris Roth)
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THE FIRST AMENDMENT TEACH-IN
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MISSION STATEMENT
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The First Amendment Teach-In is a free crash course in freedom of
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expression and separation of state and church. This educational,
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nonprofit resource is founded on five principles: credibility,
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timeliness, conciseness, access to information, and citizen action.
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The First Amendment Teach-In is presented in an entertaining and
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easy-to-understand manner. It can be read by anyone on the worldwide
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Internet who has the "telnet" function.
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FEEDBACK INFORMATION
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Information requests, comments, and opinions can be communicated
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three ways. First, by using the interactive Moderated Discussion
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function. This is the last selection on the First Amendment Teach-In's
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main menu. Second, by sending an e-mail message to croth@omnifest.uwm.edu.
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Third, by mailing printed comments to:
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The First Amendment Teach-In
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Attn: Letters to the Editor
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PO Box 17121
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Milwaukee WI 53217-0121 USA
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ACCESS INFORMATION
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You may want to leave your terminal now to locate a pen and paper to
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record the following instructions. Having the five steps listed below
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written down will make the procedure easier.
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---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Ask your service provider how to perform the telnet function.
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Then:
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* telnet to: omnifest.uwm.edu
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* login as: visitor
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* answer poll questions about your locale
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* select: Omnifest main menu
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* type: go first
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[then press ENTER or RETURN key]
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Dedicated 4 July 1995
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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 23:38:27 -0400
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From: "Shabbir J. Safdar" <shabbir@PANIX.COM>
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Message-Id: <199506120338.XAA05491@panix3.panix.com>
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Subject: File 4--ALERT: We have 48 hours left in Senate; please act
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========================================================================
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CAMPAIGN TO STOP THE EXON/GORTON COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT
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(SEE THE LIST OF CAMPAIGN COALITION MEMBERS AT THE END)
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Update: -Senate debate scheduled tomorrow, vote expected Tuesday
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-What You Can Do Now (US and non-US citizens)
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(This only takes two minutes. You can spare two
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minutes, can't you?)
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CAMPAIGN TO STOP THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT
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June 11, 1995
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PLEASE WIDELY REDISTRIBUTE THIS DOCUMENT WITH THIS BANNER INTACT
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REDISTRIBUTE ONLY UNTIL June 25, 1995
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REPRODUCE THIS ALERT ONLY IN RELEVANT FORUMS
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Distributed by the Voters Telecommunications Watch (vtw@vtw.org)
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________________________________________________________________________
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CONTENTS
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The Latest News
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What You Can Do Now -- U.S. and non-U.S. citizens
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Senate Contact List
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For More Information
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List Of Participating Organizations
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________________________________________________________________________
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THE LATEST NEWS
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We've seen some great responses from several people who called their
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Senators. At one office, the receptionist figured out what the big
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surge in phone calls was about (amazing powers of abstraction!) and
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finished one caller's sentence for him. Another person who wrote us
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said he appreciated the list of Technology staffers, as it turns out
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he actually knew one of them already!
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In all seriousness, we're not out of the woods yet. We've seen some
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encouraging signs, but we're still on the dark side of this issue. There
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are more Senators with bills before Congress to censor the Internet than
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there are co-sponsors of Leahy's bill. This should worry you. Friday
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morning you may wake up and discover that the Senate has passed a law
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against "indecent, filthy, lewd, and lascivious" expression on online
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systems.
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You will suddenly realize that even discussions of movies that might
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fit the above categories (such as R rated films) are now subject to
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criminal prosecution. Things you would normally find in bookstores and
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in print will never become available online. Discussions about them
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will become a strange dance of schizophrenia.
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Imagine trying to discuss a book that everyone has read while trying to
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talk around a part that's illegal to discuss online. Consider that
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even Andrea Dworkin's treatises against pornography could not even be
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discussed because they contain arguments and descriptions of why
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pornography is wrong within the book itself.
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We have before us some very clear choices; they have been created for us
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(and in some cases by us) by the last few years of the "mainstreaming
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of the Internet".
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We can simply oppose the bills that censor electronic expression. This
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will result in us being viewed as "out of touch" and "radicals" by the
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Senate. They have been indoctrinated with two years of the press
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telling them that the Internet is a big red light district. They have
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been given their "mission" by the nation's voice, the press, and
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they're now responding to it.
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They'll pass an Internet bill alright, so they can go to their
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constituents and say "Look what I did! I helped clean up the
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Internet." In the end, we'll lose this fight. People who simply
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oppose popularly-perceived issues are labeled as "shrill" and ignored.
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Or, we can support Leahy's bill (S 714) that would direct the
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Department of Justice to do a study of whether or not such legislation
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is even needed. This is the hearing that the Exon bill never got.
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This is a chance to drag these bills that are clearly unconstitutional
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into the light of day and wither them with all the First Amendment
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sunlight we can get into a Senate hearing room. Most importantly,
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this buys us time.
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If we don't support Leahy, we'll get the Exon bill. It's too hard for
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legislators today to stand up and say they support the First Amendment
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over "decency".
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But wait! "The Exon bill is unconstitutional", you say. "It can't pass!"
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I point out that if it's so obvious that it's unconstitutional, why are
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all these Senators jumping on the bandwagon to support similar measures?
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But wait! "The Supreme Court will nullify it", you say. Perhaps.
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Odds are even pretty good. But what will happen in the seven years it
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takes to find a martyr to take their case to the Supreme Court? How
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many bulletin boards will be seized? How many people will take on a
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new habit of "not communicating", in a medium which has fostered more
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many-to-many communication than has ever been seen before?
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You can make the difference. You can call your Senator first thing
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Monday morning and tell he or she that you think this issue ought to
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get a good long look before anything is legislated. There's not likely
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to be a vote in the Senate before Monday 5pm, so you have the whole day
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to call.
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The Telecomm Reform bill is on the floor right now. Senators are debating
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restrictions on your speech right now. Shouldn't you pipe up, while
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you still can?
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________________________________________________________________________
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WHAT YOU CAN DO NOW -- U.S. and non-U.S. citizens
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The Telecomm Reform Bill currently includes the Exon/Gorton Internet
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Censorship bill. Leahy intends to offer a swap, to remove the Exon
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language in exchange for his bill which advocates a study of the issue,
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with an emphasis on the preservation of the First Amendment and
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parental control.
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It is essential that the Leahy language be substituted for Exon's, and
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therefore it is essential:
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1. That all citizens call or fax their Senators as soon as possible.
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There is no time for written letters and email is too easily
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discounted or ignored. Non-U.S. citizens should contact Vice
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President Gore. Note, if you decide to send a fax, you'll want to
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write an expanded version of the statement below.
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It's very important that you always be cool, collected, and polite.
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U.S. citizens:
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<call your Senators' offices, contact info below>
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"Hello, Senator ________'s office"
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"Hi, I'm a constituent and would like to register my
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opinion on the Telecommunications Reform bill to the
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Senator. May I please speak to the technology staffer,
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_________?"
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"Hold On please. Alright, go ahead."
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"Please oppose the Exon/Gorton bill (Title 4 of the Telecomm
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bill) and other bills for censoring the Internet. Please
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support the Leahy alternative (S714) which examines these
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issues. My name and address are ________."
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"Thanks for calling."
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<click>
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Non-U.S. citizens:
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<call, fax, or send email to Vice President Gore>
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"Dear Vice President Gore,
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The world looks to the United States as one of the leaders in
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developing a Global Information Infrastructure. Title 4 of
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the Telecomm Reform bill and other Internet censorship bills
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imperil that leadership. Please work to remove them from the
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Telecomm Reform bill (S652) and support Senator Leahy's
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sensible alternative (S714). I'm calling from ____________."
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2. Send VTW a note telling us what you did. If you contacted your two
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Senators, send a letter to vtw@vtw.org with a subject line of
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"XX ack" where "XX" is your state. For example:
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To: vtw@vtw.org
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Subject--OH ack
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I called my Ohio Senators and expressed my opinion.
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If you contact Senators outside your state, please let us know what
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state you're from. Also, if your exchange with the Senate staff
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was anything but droll and boring, please let us know. For example:
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My Senator's receptionist said he's gone out for the day, to
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try and find a copy of the First Amendment. He thinks it's
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a seditious idea and wants to know who started it.
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If you contacted Vice President Gore, send a letter to vtw@vtw.org with
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a subject line of "gore ack". For example:
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To: vtw@vtw.org
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Subject--gore ack
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I called VP Gore and expressed my opinion. I'm from France.
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An automatic responder will return an updated contact tally.
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3. Forward this alert to relevant forums on other online services and
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BBS's. Check the letter you get back to see which Senators are
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underrepresented by citizen contacts. Forward the alert to any
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friends and colleagues in those states.
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4. If you haven't yet signed the petition to support Sen. Leahy,
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do so now at http://www.cdt.org/petition.html. If you don't have
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WWW access, send mail to vtw@vtw.org with a subject line of
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"send petition" for directions.
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5. Congratulate yourself! Your two-minute activism joins that of many
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thousands of others over the past two months.
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________________________________________________________________________
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SENATE CONTACT LIST
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Vice President Gore can be reached at:
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White House comment line
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Telephone: (202) 456-1111 (M-F 9-5 EST)
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Facsimile: (202) 456-2461 (M-F 9-5 EST)
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Email: vice-president@whitehouse.gov
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*** Note that we have included names of the several Senators ***
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*** Telecommunications Policy staffers below. Please attempt ***
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*** to speak to them when you call. ***
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US Senate Listing:
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D ST Name (Party) Phone Fax
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R AK Murkowski, Frank H. 1-202-224-6665 1-202-224-5301
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R AK Stevens, Ted 1-202-224-3004 1-202-224-1044
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Earl Comstock - Technology staffer
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D AL Heflin, Howell T. 1-202-224-4124 1-202-224-3149
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R AL Shelby, Richard C. 1-202-224-5744 1-202-224-3416
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D AR Bumpers, Dale 1-202-224-4843 1-202-224-6435
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Thomas Walls - Technology staffer
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D AR Pryor, David 1-202-224-2353 1-202-224-8261
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R AZ Kyl, Jon 1-202-224-4521 1-602-840-4848
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R AZ McCain, John 1-202-224-2235 1-602-952-8702
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Mark Buse - Technology staffer
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D CA Boxer, Barbara 1-202-224-3553 na
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Leanne Shimabukuro - Technology staffer
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D CA Feinstein, Dianne 1-202-224-3841 1-202-228-3954
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Robert Mestman - Technology staffer
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R CO Campbell, Ben N. 1-202-224-5852 1-202-225-0228
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Lori Fox - Technology staffer
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R CO Brown, Henry 1-202-224-5941 1-202-224-6471
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Liz Woodard - Technology staffer
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D CT Dodd, Christopher J. 1-202-224-2823 na
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D CT Lieberman, Joseph I. 1-202-224-4041 1-202-224-9750
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D DE Biden Jr., Joseph R. 1-202-224-5042 1-202-224-0139
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Demetra Lambros/Michelle Deguerin - Technology staffer
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R DE Roth Jr. William V. 1-202-224-2441 1-202-224-2805
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D FL Graham, Robert 1-202-224-3041 1-202-224-2237
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Bryant Hall - Technology staffer
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R FL Mack, Connie 1-202-224-5274 1-202-224-8022
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Stacy Hughes - Technology staffer
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D GA Nunn, Samuel 1-202-224-3521 1-202-224-0072
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Jonathan Reif - Technology staffer
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R GA Coverdell, Paul 1-202-224-3643 1-202-228-3783
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Therese Marie Delgadillo - Technology staffer
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D HI Akaka, Daniel K. 1-202-224-6361 1-202-224-2126
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Nanci Langley - Technology staffer
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D HI Inouye, Daniel K. 1-202-224-3934 1-202-224-6747
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Margaret Cummisky - Technology staffer
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D IA Harkin, Thomas 1-202-224-3254 1-202-224-7431
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Phil Buchan - Technology staffer
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R IA Grassley, Charles E. 1-202-224-3744 1-202-224-6020
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John McNickle - Technology staffer
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R ID Craig, Larry E. 1-202-224-2752 1-202-224-2573
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Elizabeth Criner - Technology staffer
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R ID Kempthorne, Dirk 1-202-224-6142 1-202-224-5893
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D IL Moseley-Braun, Carol 1-202-224-2854 1-202-224-2626
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Bill Mattea - Technology staffer
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D IL Simon, Paul 1-202-224-2152 1-202-224-0868
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Susan Kaplan - Technology staffer
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R IN Coats, Daniel R. 1-202-224-5623 1-202-224-8964
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David Crane - Technology staffer
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R IN Lugar, Richard G. 1-202-224-4814 1-202-224-7877
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Walt Luken - Technology staffer
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R KS Dole, Robert 1-202-224-6521 1-202-224-8952
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R KS Kassebaum, Nancy L. 1-202-224-4774 1-202-224-3514
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Ed Bolen - Technology staffer
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D KY Ford, Wendell H. 1-202-224-4343 1-202-224-0046
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Martha Maloney - Technology staffer
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R KY McConnell, Mitch 1-202-224-2541 1-202-224-2499
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D LA Breaux, John B. 1-202-224-4623 na
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Thomas Moore - Technology staffer
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D LA Johnston, J. Bennett 1-202-224-5824 1-202-224-2952
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Michael Gougisha - Technology staffer
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D MA Kennedy, Edward M. 1-202-224-4543 1-202-224-2417
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Jeff Blattner - Technology staffer
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D MA Kerry, John F. 1-202-224-2742 1-202-224-8525
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Scott Bunton - Technology staffer
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D MD Mikulski, Barbara A. 1-202-224-4654 1-202-224-8858
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D MD Sarbanes, Paul S. 1-202-224-4524 1-202-224-1651
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Fred Millhiser - Technology staffer
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R ME Snowe, Olympia 1-202-224-5344 1-202-224-6853
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Angela Campbell - Technology staffer
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R ME Cohen, William S. 1-202-224-2523 1-202-224-2693
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Kelly Metcalf - Technology staffer
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D MI Levin, Carl 1-202-224-6221 na
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R MI Abraham, Spencer 1-202-224-4822 1-202-224-8834
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D MN Wellstone, Paul 1-202-224-5641 1-202-224-8438
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Mike Epstein - Technology staffer
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R MN Grams, Rod 1-202-224-3244 na
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R MO Bond, Christopher S. 1-202-224-5721 1-202-224-8149
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R MO Ashcroft, John 1-202-224-6154 na
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R MS Cochran, Thad 1-202-224-5054 1-202-224-3576
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R MS Lott, Trent 1-202-224-6253 1-202-224-2262
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Chip Pickering - Technology staffer
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D MT Baucus, Max 1-202-224-2651 na
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Brian Cavey - Technology staffer
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R MT Burns, Conrad R. 1-202-224-2644 1-202-224-8594
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Mark Baker - Technology staffer
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R NC Faircloth, D. M. 1-202-224-3154 1-202-224-7406
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R NC Helms, Jesse 1-202-224-6342 1-202-224-7588
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D ND Conrad, Kent 1-202-224-2043 1-202-224-7776
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Steve Super - Technology staffer
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D ND Dorgan, Byron L. 1-202-224-2551 1-202-224-1193
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Greg Rhode - Technology staffer
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D NE Exon, J. J. 1-202-224-4224 1-202-224-5213
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Christopher MacLean - Technology staffer
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D NE Kerrey, Bob 1-202-224-6551 1-202-224-7645
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Carol Ann Bischoff - Technology staffer
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R NH Gregg, Judd 1-202-224-3324 1-202-224-4952
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R NH Smith, Robert 1-202-224-2841 1-202-224-1353
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D NJ Bradley, William 1-202-224-3224 1-202-224-8567
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Mark Schmitt - Technology staffer
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D NJ Lautenberg, Frank R. 1-202-224-4744 1-202-224-9707
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Bruce King - Technology staffer
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D NM Bingaman, Jeff 1-202-224-5521 na
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Wayne Propst - Technology staffer
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R NM Domenici, Pete V. 1-202-224-6621 1-202-224-7371
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D NV Bryan, Richard H. 1-202-224-6244 1-202-224-1867
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Andrew Vermilye - Technology staffer
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D NV Reid, Harry 1-202-224-3542 1-202-224-7327
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D NY Moynihan, Daniel P. 1-202-224-4451 na
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R NY D'Amato, Alfonse M. 1-202-224-6542 1-202-224-5871
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Kraig Siracuse - Technology staffer
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D OH Glenn, John 1-202-224-3353 1-202-224-7983
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Kathy Connolly - Technology staffer
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R OH Dewine, Michael 1-202-224-2315 1-202-224-6519
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Josh Ruben - Technology staffer
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R OK Inhofe, James 1-202-224-4721
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R OK Nickles, Donald 1-202-224-5754 1-202-224-6008
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R OR Hatfield, Mark O. 1-202-224-3753 1-202-224-0276
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R OR Packwood, Robert 1-202-224-5244 1-202-228-3576
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Hans Haney - Technology staffer
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R PA Santorum, Rick 1-202-224-6324 1-202-228-4991
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R PA Specter, Arlen 1-202-224-4254 1-717-782-4920
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Dan Renberg - Technology staffer
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D RI Pell, Claiborne 1-202-224-4642 1-202-224-4680
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R RI Chafee, John H. 1-202-224-2921 na
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D SC Hollings, Ernest F. 1-202-224-6121 1-202-224-4293
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Kevin Josephs - Technology staffer
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R SC Thurmond, Strom 1-202-224-5972 1-202-224-1300
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D SD Daschle, Thomas A. 1-202-224-2321 1-202-224-2047
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R SD Pressler, Larry 1-202-224-5842 1-202-224-1259*
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Katie King - Technology staffer
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R TN Thompson, Fred 1-202-224-4944 1-202-228-3679
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Kevin Moxley - Technology staffer
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R TN Frist, Bill 1-202-224-3344 1-202-224-8062
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Dave Berson - Technology staffer
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R TX Hutchison, Kay Bailey 1-202-224-5922 1-202-224-0776
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Amy Henderson - Technology staffer
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R TX Gramm, Phil 1-202-224-2934 1-202-228-2856
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R UT Bennett, Robert 1-202-224-5444 1-202-224-6717
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Amy Henderson - Technology staffer
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R UT Hatch, Orrin G. 1-202-224-5251 1-202-224-6331
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Mike O'Neill - Technology staffer
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D VA Robb, Charles S. 1-202-224-4024 1-202-224-8689
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Bill Owens - Technology staffer
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R VA Warner, John W. 1-202-224-2023 1-202-224-6295
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Russel Wilkerson - Technology staffer
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D VT Leahy, Patrick J. 1-202-224-4242 1-202-224-3595
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Beryl Howell - Technology staffer
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R VT Jeffords, James M. 1-202-224-5141 na
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Bill Testerman - Technology staffer
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D WA Murray, Patty 1-202-224-2621 1-202-224-0238
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Mike Egan - Technology staffer
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R WA Gorton, Slade 1-202-224-3441 1-202-224-9393
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Terri Claffey - Technology staffer
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D WI Feingold, Russell 1-202-224-5323 na
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Jeannine Kenney - Technology staffer
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D WI Kohl, Herbert H. 1-202-224-5653 1-202-224-9787
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Jon Liebowitz - Technology staffer
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D WV Byrd, Robert C. 1-202-224-3954 1-202-224-4025
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D WV Rockefeller, John D. 1-202-224-6472 na
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Cheryl Bruner - Technology staffer
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R WY Simpson, Alan K. 1-202-224-3424 1-202-224-1315
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Michael Stull - Technology staffer
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R WY Thomas, Craig 1-202-224-6441 1-202-224-3230
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:17:09 -0400
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From: "S. Keith Graham" <vapspcx@CAD.GATECH.EDU>
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Subject: File 5--Re: Protecting Kids on the Internet (CuD 7.47)
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In comp.society.cu-digest you write:
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>File 5--Can Parents prevent Web page viewing? (Re: CuD 7.46)
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As a one-time "child" in one of the younger incarnations
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of the online community (i.e. a 15 year old on BBSes a long
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time ago), let me offer a few observations.
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First, "children", even aged 10 or 12, know more about compters than
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many of their parents. A recent article in the local paper
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mentioned a man who finally went to class to learn about his Macintosh
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after his 4 year old daughter used it to create and print a page
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to color with crayons. Parents that can't program a VCR aren't going to
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properly install a Web Browser and prevent their child from doing the same.
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So, have you limited publisher's liability if the publisher believes
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that most parents haven't taken action to limit their child's access?
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I have heard stories about "children" passing around copies of
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X-rated GIFs on floppies. It is but a small step to expect them to
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pass around "unrestricted browsers". (Given that most home machines
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in the near future will be DOS/Windows(95), there will not be the
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ability to prevent someone from popping in a disk and running a
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program from it.)
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And in fact, a restricted browser could easily download a
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self-extracting pre-installed browswer onto floppy. One kid
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with an unrestricted browser and their own web page, and thousands
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of children could get copies. And there are hundreds of other
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scenarios for such browsers getting into the hands of children.
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Once it is widely known that children have these browsers against
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parents wishes and in sizable numbers, is the owner of a page still
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not liable for the content? (And should this message be marked
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"adult only" because it explains ways of defeating the <adult
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only> security system? What material is really "<adult only>"?)
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Last, the traditional print media does not tag material "adult only".
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Walk up to any fiction section of your favorite bookstore, and I'm sure
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half of the books contain material that some parents wouldn't want
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their children reading. But parents do let their teenagers wander
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around malls unsupervised.
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We are going to have to accept the fact that children will have
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access to pornography, violent material, "obscene material",
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etc. if given free reign on the Internet (or in a bookstore or
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decent sized public library.) Some parents even object to
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newspapers for "the gay lifestyle" which can be found in boxes in
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front of many stores here in Atlanta. Either parents will have to
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raise their children knowing they will have access to
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some rather frightening materials (and educating them based on
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that fact) , or parents will have to supervise their children's
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visits to bookstores, libraries, and the Web.
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In addition, there is a great deal of material on the 'net,
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such as descriptions of neo-pagan rituals or graphic
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pictures of current events, that while not "immoral",
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are materials that some parents wouldn't want
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children of some ages to access. In the case of non-Christian
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(of any kind) religious materials, should it be marked "specially"
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somehow, just because some parents object to their children
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seeing it? Do we need dozens of classifications of material?
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What if you miss one? Are you somehow legally liable?
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Would you publish if you were?
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Date: 9 Jun 1995 17:21:21 GMT
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From: kadie@SAL.CS.UIUC.EDU(Carl M Kadie)
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Subject: File 6--Can Parents prevent Web page viewing? (Re: CuD 7.46)
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Here is my suggested alternative:
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That authors, publishers, and distributors (both for-profit and
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non-profit) assert and defend their full First Amendment-protected
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rights by adopting the American Library Assocations and Association
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of American Publishers's "Freedom To Read" statement (enclosed).
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These priciples have been in use for over 40 years. They are
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tested. They have a good track record of protecting freedom of
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speech, much better than any self-labeling scheme.
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That is not to say there is no place for labeling. I think
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SurfWatch and similar projects and projects are fine for parents
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who want them. But self-labeling is not necessary and makes formal
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and informal cenesorhsip more likely.
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- Carl
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THE FREEDOM TO READ
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The freedom to read is essential to our democracy. It is
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continuously under attack. Private groups and public authorities
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in various parts of the country are working to remove books from
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sale, to censor textbooks, to label "controversial" books, to
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distribute lists of "objectionable" books or authors, and to
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purge libraries. These actions apparently rise from a view that
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our national tradition of free expression is no longer valid;
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that censorship and suppression are needed to avoid the
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subversion of politics and the corruption of morals. We, as
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citizens devoted to the use of books and as librarians and
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publishers responsible for disseminating them, wish to assert the
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public interest in the preservation of the freedom to read.
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We are deeply concerned about these attempts at suppression.
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Most such attempts rest on a denial of the fundamental premise of
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democracy: that the ordinary citizen, by exercising critical
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judgment, will accept the good and reject the bad. The censors,
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public and private, assume that they should determine what is
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good and what is bad for their fellow-citizens.
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We trust Americans to recognize propaganda, and to reject it. We
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do not believe they need the help of censors to assist them in
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this task. We do not believe they are prepared to sacrifice
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their heritage of a free press in order to be "protected" against
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what others think may be bad for them. We believe they still
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favor free enterprise in ideas and expression.
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We are aware, of course, that books are not alone in being
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subjected to efforts at suppression. We are aware that these
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efforts are related to a larger pattern of pressures being
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brought against education, the press, films, radio and
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television. The problem is not only one of actual censorship.
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The shadow of fear cast by these pressures leads, we suspect, to
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an even larger voluntary curtailment of expression by those who
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seek to avoid controversy.
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Such pressure toward conformity is perhaps natural to a time of
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uneasy change and pervading fear. Especially when so many of our
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apprehensions are directed against an ideology, the expression of
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a dissident idea becomes a thing feared in itself, and we tend to
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move against it as against a hostile deed, with suppression.
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And yet suppression is never more dangerous than in such a time
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of social tension. Freedom has given the United States the
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elasticity to endure strain. Freedom keeps open the path of
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novel and creative solutions, and enables change to come by
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choice. Every silencing of a heresy, every enforcement of an
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orthodoxy, diminishes the toughness and resilience of our society
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and leaves it the less able to deal with stress.
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Now as always in our history, books are among our greatest
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instruments of freedom. They are almost the only means for
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making generally available ideas or manners of expression that
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can initially command only a small audience. They are the
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natural medium for the new idea and the untried voice from which
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come the original contributions to social growth. They are
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essential to the extended discussion which serious thought
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requires, and to the accumulation of knowledge and ideas into
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organized collections.
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We believe that free communication is essential to the
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preservation of a free society and a creative culture. We
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believe that these pressures towards conformity present the
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danger of limiting the range and variety of inquiry and
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expression on which our democracy and our culture depend. We
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believe that every American community must jealously guard the
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freedom to publish and to circulate, in order to preserve its own
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freedom to read. We believe that publishers and librarians have
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a profound responsibility to give validity to that freedom to
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read by making it possible for the readers to choose freely from
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a variety of offerings.
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The freedom to read is guaranteed by the Constitution. Those
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with faith in free people will stand firm on these constitutional
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guarantees of essential rights and will exercise the
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responsibilities that accompany these rights.
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_We therefore affirm these propositions:
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1. It is in the public interest for publishers and librarians
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to make available the widest diversity of views and
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expressions, including those which are unorthodox or
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unpopular with the majority._
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Creative thought is by definition new, and what is new is
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different. The bearer of every new thought is a rebel until that
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idea is refined and tested. Totalitarian systems attempt to
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maintain themselves in power by the ruthless suppression of any
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concept which challenges the established orthodoxy. The power of
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a democratic system to adapt to change is vastly strengthened by
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the freedom of its citizens to choose widely from among
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conflicting opinions offered freely to them. To stifle every
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nonconformist idea at birth would mark the end of the democratic
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process. Furthermore, only through the constant activity of
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weighing and selecting can the democratic mind attain the
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strength demanded by times like these. We need to know not only
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what we believe but why we believe it.
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2. _Publishers, librarians and booksellers do not need to
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endorse every idea or presentation contained in the books
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they make available. It would conflict with the public
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interest for them to establish their own political, moral or
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aesthetic views as a standard for determining what books
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should be published or circulated._
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Publishers and librarians serve the educational process by
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helping to make available knowledge and ideas required for the
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growth of the mind and the increase of learning. They do not
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foster education by imposing as mentors the patterns of their own
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thought. The people should have the freedom to read and consider a
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broader range of ideas than those that may be held by any single
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librarian or publisher or government or church. It is wrong that
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what one can read should be confined to what another thinks
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proper.
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3. _It is contrary to the public interest for publishers or
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librarians to determine the acceptability of a book on the
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basis of the personal history or political affiliations of
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the author._
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A book should be judged as a book. No art or literature can
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flourish if it is to be measured by the political views or
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private lives of its creators. No society of free people can
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flourish which draws up lists of writers to whom it will not
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listen, whatever they may have to say.
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4. _There is no place in our society for efforts to coerce the
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taste of others, to confine adults to the reading matter
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deemed suitable for adolescents, or to inhibit the efforts
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of writers to achieve artistic expression._
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To some, much of modern literature is shocking. But is not much
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of life itself shocking? We cut off literature at the source if
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we prevent writers from dealing with the stuff of life. Parents
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and teachers have a responsibility to prepare the young to meet
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the diversity of experiences in life to which they will be
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exposed, as they have a responsibility to help them learn to
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think critically for themselves. These are affirmative
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responsibilities, not to be discharged simply by preventing them
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from reading works for which they are not yet prepared. In these
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matters taste differs, and taste cannot be legislated; nor can
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machinery be devised which will suit the demands of one group
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without limiting the freedom of others.
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5. _It is not in the public interest to force a reader to accept
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with any book the prejudgment of a label characterizing the
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book or author as subversive or dangerous._
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The ideal of labeling presupposes the existence of individuals or
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groups with wisdom to determine by authority what is good or bad
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for the citizen. It presupposes that individuals must be
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directed in making up their minds about the ideas they examine.
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But Americans do not need others to do their thinking for them.
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6. _It is the responsibility of publishers and librarians, as
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guardians of the people's freedom to read, to contest
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encroachments upon that freedom by individuals or groups
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seeking to impose their own standards or tastes upon the
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community at large._
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It is inevitable in the give and take of the democratic process
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that the political, the moral, or the aesthetic concepts of an
|
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individual or group will occasionally collide with those of
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another individual or group. In a free society individuals are
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free to determine for themselves what they wish to read, and each
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group is free to determine what it will recommend to its freely
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associated members. But no group has the right to take the law
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into its own hands, and to impose its own concept of politics or
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morality upon other members of a democratic society. Freedom is
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no freedom if it is accorded only to the accepted and the
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inoffensive.
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7. _It is the responsibility of publishers and librarians to
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give full meaning to the freedom to read by providing books
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that enrich the quality and diversity of thought and
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expression. By the exercise of this affirmative
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responsibility, they can demonstrate that the answer to a
|
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bad book is a good one, the answer to a bad idea is a good
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one._
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The freedom to read is of little consequence when expended on the
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trivial; it is frustrated when the reader cannot obtain matter
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fit for that reader's purpose. What is needed is not only the
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absence of restraint, but the positive provision of opportunity
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for the people to read the best that has been thought and said.
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Books are the major channel by which the intellectual inheritance
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is handed down, and the principal means of its testing and
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growth. The defense of their freedom and integrity, and the
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enlargement of their service to society, requires of all
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publishers and librarians the utmost of their faculties, and
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deserves of all citizens the fullest of their support.
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We state these propositions neither lightly nor as easy
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generalizations. We here stake out a lofty claim for the value
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of books. We do so because we believe that they are good,
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possessed of enormous variety and usefulness, worthy of
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cherishing and keeping free. We realize that the application of
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these propositions may mean the dissemination of ideas and
|
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manners of expression that are repugnant to many persons. We do
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not state these propositions in the comfortable belief that what
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people read is unimportant. We believe rather that what people
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read is deeply important; that ideas can be dangerous; but that
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the suppression of ideas is fatal to a democratic society.
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Freedom itself is a dangerous way of life, but it is ours.
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___________________________
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This statement was originally issued in May of 1953 by the
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Westchester Conference of the American Library Association and the
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American Book Publishers Council, which in 1970 consolidated with
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the American Educational Publishers Institute to become the
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Association of American Publishers.
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Adopted June 25, 1953; revised January 28, 1972, January 16, 1991,
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by the ALA Council and the AAP Freedom to Read Committee.
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_A Joint Statement by:_
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American Library Association
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Association of American Publishers
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_Subsequently Endorsed by:_
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American Booksellers Association
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American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression
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American Civil Liberties Union
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American Federation of Teachers AFL-CIO
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Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
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Association of American University Presses
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Children's Book Council
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Freedom to Read Foundation
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International Reading Association
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Thomas Jefferson Center for the Protection of Free Expression
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National Association of College Stores
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National Council of Teachers of English
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P.E.N. - American Center
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People for the American Way
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Periodical and Book Association of America
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Sex Information and Education Council of the U.S.
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Society of Professional Journalists
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Women's National Book Association
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YWCA of the U.S.A.
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Information provider:
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Unit: American Library Association
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Email: Edward.Valauskas@ala.org
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Posted: 24 Apr 1994
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--
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Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization or employer; this is
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just me.
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= Email: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =
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= URL: <ftp://ftp.cs.uiuc.edu/pub/kadie/>
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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1995 22:51:01 CDT
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From: CuD Moderators <cudigest@sun.soci.niu.edu>
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Subject: File 7--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 19 Apr, 1995)
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Cu-Digest is a weekly electronic journal/newsletter. Subscriptions are
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