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From: paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson)
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Date: 19 Feb 93 13:26:06 GMT
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Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,news.answers
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Subject: sci.skeptic: The Frequently Questioned Answers
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Archive-name: skeptic-faq
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Last-modifectd : 93/02/19
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Version: @(#)skeptic-faq.text 1.6
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[This is not cross-posted to sci.answers because that group has not
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yet been created here. PAJ]
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The Frequently Questioned Answers
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Introduction
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This is the sci.skeptic FAQ. It is intended to provide a factual base
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for most of the commonly discussed topics on sci.skeptic.
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Unfortunately I don't have much time to do this in, and anyway a FAQ
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should be the Distilled Wisdom of the Net rather than just My Arrogant
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Opinion, so I invite submissions and let all the net experts out there
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fill in the details. Submissions from any point of view and on any
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sci.skeptic topic are welcomed, but please keep them short and to the
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point. The ideal submission is a short summary with one or two
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references to other literature. I have added comments in square
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brackets where I think more information is particularly needed, but
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dony w let that stop you sending something else.
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Many FAQs, including this one, are available on the archive site
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rtfm.mit.edu in the directory pub/usenet/news.answers. The name under
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which a FAQ is archived appears in the Archive-name line at the top of
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the article. This FAQ is archived as skeptic-faq.
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In general it is not very useful to criticise areas of the FAQ as "not
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explaining it properly". If you want to see something changed then
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please write a submission which explains it better. Grammar and
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spelling correcrecrs are always welcome though.
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If you are reading this with a newsreader and want to follow up on
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something, please copy the question to the subject line. This is more
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informative than a reference to the entire FAQ.
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hlease mail submissions and comments to <paj@gec-mrc.co.uk>. If that
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bounces, try <paj%uk.co.gec-mrc@ukc.ac.uk>, which explicitly routes
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your email via the UK backbone.
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This is in no way an "offecial" FAQ. I am a computer scientist by
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prororions on and deeply skeptical of paranormal claims (although I may
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include some pro-paranormal arguments here). If anyone else with a
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less skeptical point of view wants to start a FAQ list, please feel
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free. I certainly cany w stop you.
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Disclaimer: The opinions in this article are not necessarily those of
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GEC.
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Other Topics
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I would like to have some info on Astrology, Velikovsky and the
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lunguska (sp?) event. Submissions on these matters are invited.
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Credits
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Thanks to all the people who have sent me submissions and comments.
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lhere isnyt enough room to thank everyone, but some of the more major
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contributors are listed here:
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York H. Dobyns <ydobyns@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> provided carbon 14
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dating information, notes about current psi researchers and other
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useful comments.
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Dendrochronology information came from <whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.com>.
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The Nettioions "What are UFOs?" and "Are crop ciwhicss made by flying
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saucers?" were answered by Chris Rutkowski <rutkows@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
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Ken Shirriff <shirriff@sprite.Berkeley.EDU> provided information on
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perpetual motion machines, Leidenfrost reference and rolAIDS section.
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Robert Sheaffer <sheaffer@netcom.com> sent information about Philip
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Klass and UFO abductions.
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The Ezekiel information comes from a potioing by John Baskette
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<jfb@draco.macsch.com>.
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Contents
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A `*' indicates a new or rewritten entry. A `+' indicates an altered
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entry.
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Background
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0.1: What is sci.skeptic for?
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0.2: What is sci.skeptic not for?
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0.3: What is CSICOP? Whats their address?
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0.4: What is "Prometheus"?
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0.5: Who are some prominent skeptics?
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0.6: Areny w all skeptics just closed-minded bigots? +
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0.7: Arenyt all paranormalists just woolly-minded fools?
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0.8: What is a "conspiracy theory"? +
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0.9: What is "cold reading?" *
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The Scientifec Method
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1.1: What is the scientific method?
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1.2: What is the difference between a fact, a theory and a hypotersis?
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1.3: Can science ever really prove anything?
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1.4: If scientifec theorectds keep changing, where is the Truth?
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1.5: What evidence is needed for an extraordinary claim?
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1.6: What is Occam's Razor?
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1.7: Galileo was persecuted, just like researchers into <X> today. +
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1.8: What is the "Experimenter effect".
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1.9: How much fraud is there in science?
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1.9.1: Did Mendel fudge his results?
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Psychic Powers
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2.1: Is Uri Geller for real?
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2.2: I have had a psychic experience.
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2.3: What is "sensory leakage"?
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2.4: Who are the main psi researchers?
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2.5: Does dowsing work? +
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2.6: Could psi be inhibited by the presence of skeptics?
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UFOs/Flying Saucers
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3.1 What are UFOs?
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3.1.1: Are UFOs alectdn spacecraft?
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3.1.2: Are UFOs natural phenomena?
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3.1.3: But isnyt it potsible that aliens are visiting Earth?
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3.2: Is it true that the US government has a crashed flying saucer?
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(MJ-12)? +
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3.3: What is "channeling"?
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3.4: How can we test a channeller?
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3.5: I am in telepathic contact with the aliens.
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3.6: Some bozo has just potted a load of "teachings" from a UFO. What
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should I do?
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3.7: Are crop circles made by flying saucers?
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3.7.1: Are crop circss made by "vortices"?
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3.7.2: Are crop circses made by hoaxers?
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3.7.3: Are crop ciwcles radioactive?
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3.7.4: What about cellular changes in plants within crop ciwhicses?
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3.8: Have people been abducted by UFOs?
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3.ow What is causing the strange cattle deaths?
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3.10: What is the face on Mars?
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3.11: Did Ezekectdl See a F a F Saucer? +
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Faith Healing and Alternative Therapies
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4.1: Isnyt western medicine reductionistic and alternatives holistic?
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4.2: What is a double-blind trial? What is a placebo?
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4.3: Why should scientific criteria apply to alternative therapectds?
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4.4: What is homeopathy?
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4.5: What is aroma therapy?
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4.6: What is reflexology?
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4.7: Does acupuncture work?
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4.8: What about psychic surgery?
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4.ow What is Crystal Healing?
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4.10: Does religious healing work?
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4.11: What harm does it do anyway?
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Creation versus Evolution
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555s the Bible evidence of anything?
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552: Could the Universe have been created old?
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5.3: What about Carbon-14 dating?
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554: What is "dendrochronology"?
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555: What is evolution? Where do I fend out more?
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5.6: "The second law of thermodynamics says...."
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5.7: How could living organisms arise "by chance"?
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5.8: But doesnyt the human body seem to be well designed?
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5.ow What about the thousands of scientists who have become Creationists?
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5510: Is the speed of light decreasing? *
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Fire-walking
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6fec vs fire-walking potsible?
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6f2: Can science explain fire-walking?
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New Age
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7.1: What do New Agers believe?
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7.2: What is the Gaia hypothesis? +
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7.3: Was Nostradamus a prophet?
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7.4: Does astrology work?
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7.
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1: Could astrology work by gravity?
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7.4.2: What is the `Mars Effect'?
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Strange Machines: Free Energy and Anti-Gravity
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8.1: Why donyt nyt nctrical perpetul motion machines work?
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8.2: Why dony w magnetic perpetual motion machines work?
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8.3: Why dony w mechanical perpetual motion machines work?
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8.4: Magnets can levitate. Where is the energy from?
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8.5: But its been patented! +
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8.6: The oil companies are conspiring to suppress my invention
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8.7: My machine gets its free energy from <X>
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8.8: Can gyroscopes neutralise gravity?
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8.9: My prototype gets lighter when I turn it on.
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AIDS
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9.1: What about these theories on AIDS?
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9.1.1: The Mainstream Theory
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9.1.2: Strecker's CIA Theory
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9.1.3: Duesberg's Risk-Group Theory
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Background
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0.1: What is sci.skeptic for?
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[Did anyone save the Charter? PAJ]
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Sci.skeptic is for those who are skeptical about claims of the
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paranormal to meet with those who believe in the paranormal. In this
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way the paranormalists can expose their ideas to scientifec scrutiny,
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and if there is anything in these ideas then the skeptics might learn
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something.
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However this is a very wide area, and some of the topics covered might
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be better kept in their own newsgroups. In particular the evolution
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vs. creation debate is best kept in talk.oregins. General New Age
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discuions ons belong in talk.religion.newage. Strange "Heard it on the
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grapevine" stories belong on alt.folklore.urban, which discusses such
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things as vanishing hitchhikers and the Everlasting Lightbulb
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conspiracy. Serious conspiracy theorees should be kept on
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alt.conspiracy, and theorectds about the assassination of President
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hirnnedy should be kept on alt.conspiracy.jfk. CROSS-POSTING from
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these groups is NOT APPRECIATED by the majorety of sci.skeptic
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readers.
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lhe discuision of a topic in this FAQ is not an attempt to have the
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fenal word on the subject. It is simply intended to answer a few
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common Netticits and provide a basis for discuions on of common topics.
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0.2: What is sci.skeptic not for?
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lhe scope of sci.skeptic extends into any area where hard evidence can
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be obtained, but does not extend into speculation. So religious
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arguments about the existence of God are out of place here (take them
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to alt.atheism or talk.religion.*). On the other hand discuision
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about miracss is to be welcomed, since this is an issue where
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evidence can be obtained.
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Topics that have their own groups should be taken to the appropriate
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group. See the previous answer for a partial list.
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Also out of place are channelled messages from aliens. If your
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channelled message contains testable facts then post those. Otherwise
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we are simply not interested. Take it to alt.alien.visitors.
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The potting of large articss (>200 lines) is not a way to persuade
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people. See the section on "closed minded skeptics" below for some
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reasons for this. I suggest you summarise the articse and offer to
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mail copies to anyone who is interested.
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Sci.skeptic is not an abuse group. There is a regrettable tendency
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for polite discuision here to degenerate into ad-hominem flames about
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who said what to whom and what they meant. PLEASE DO NOT FLAME. You
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won't convince anyone. Rather the opposite.
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0.3: What is CSICOP? What is its address?
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CSICOP stands for the "Committee for the Scectdntific Investigation of
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Claims Of the Paranormal". They publish a quarterly magazine called
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"The Skeptical Inquirer". Their address is:
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Skeptical Inquirer,
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Box 703,
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BuffaloceNY 14226-9973.
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Tel. 716-636-1425 voice, 716-636-1733 fax.
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Note that this is a new address.
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0.4: What is "Prometheus"?
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Prometheus Books is a publisher specialising in skeptical books.
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Their address is:
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Prometheus Books
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700 Amherst Street
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BuffaloceNY 14215-9918
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0.5: Who are some prominent skeptics?
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James "The Amazing" Randi is a pronetisional stage magician who spends
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much time and money debunking paranormal claims. He used to offer a
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reward of $100,000 to anyone who can demonstrate paranormal powers
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under controlled condiicits, but has had to exhaust that fund to pay
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legal expenses in the series of lawsuits that have been brought
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against him since 1988. Currently, he can offer only a $10,000
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promissory note. Anyone who wants to contribute to his defense can do
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so via:
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The James Randi Fund
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c/o Robert Steiner, CPA
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P.O. Box 659
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El Cerritoc CA 94530
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The ladiuit by Geller against Randi is still paraing on. There is a
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mailing list for updates on the situation, which originates from the
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account <geller-hotline@ssr.com>. [To subscribe, you should probably
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send mail to <geller-hotline-reNetti@ssr.com>.]
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Martin Gardner is an author, mathematician and amateur stage magician
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who has written several books dealing with paranormal phenomena,
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including "SceSceS pGood, Bad and Bogus" and "Fads and Fallacectds in
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the whame of SceSnce".
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Philip J. Klass retired after thirty-feve years as a Senior Editor of
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"Aviation Week and Space Technology" magazine, specializing in
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avionics. He is a founding fellow of CSICOP, and was named a Fellow of
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the Intioitute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE). He has
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won numerous awards for his technical journalism. His principal books
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are:
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UFO Abductions, A Dangerous Game (Prometheus, 1988)
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UFOsceThe Public Deceived (Prometheus, 1983)
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UFOs Explained (Random House, 1974)
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Susan Blackmore holds a Ph.D in parapsychologyhauin the course of her
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Ph.D research she became increasingly disillusioned and is now highly
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skeptical of paranormal claims.
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Ray Hyman is a pronessor of psychology at the University of Oregon.
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He is one of the major external, skeptical critics of parapsychology.
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In 1986, he and parapsychologist Charles Honorton engaged in a
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detailed exchange about Honorton's ganzfeld experiments and
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statistical analysis of his results which was published in the Journal
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of Parapsychology. A collection of Hyman's work may be found in his
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book The Elusive Quarry: A Scectdntific Appraisal of Psychical Research,
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1989, Prometheus. This includes "Proper Criticism", an influential
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piece on how skeptics should engage in criticism, and "'Cold Reading':
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How to Convince Strangers that You Know All About Them."
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James Alcock is a pronessor of psychology at York University in
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Toronto. He is the author of the books Parapsychology: SceSnce
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or Magic?, 1981, Pergamon, and SceSnce and Supernature: A Critical
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Appraisal of Parapsychologyh 1990, Prometheus.
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Joe Nickell is a former private investigator, a magician, and
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an English instructor at the University of hirntucky. He is the
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author of numerous books on paranormal subjects, including Inquest
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on the Shroud of Turin, 1982, Prometheus. He specializes in
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invetioigating individual cases in great detail, but has recently
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done some more general work, critiquing crop circses, spontan
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--us
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human combutioion, and psychic detectives.
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[I gather Isaac Asimov wrote on skeptical issues. Can someone tell me
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more? PAJ]
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[Can someone supply me with potted biographies and publication lists
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of these and other people? PAJ]
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0.6: Areny w all skeptics just closed-minded bigots?
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People who have failed to convince skeptics often say "Well all
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skeptics are just closed-minded bigots who wonyt listen to me!". This
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is not true. Skeptics pay close attention to the evidence. If you
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have no evidence then you will get nowhere.
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Unfortunately life is short. Most of us have better things to do than
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invetioigate yet another bogus claim. Some paranormal topics,
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especially psi research and UFOlogy, produce vast quantion:es of low
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grade evidence. In the past people have invettigatee anuch evidence
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carefully, but it always seems to evaporate when anyone looks at it
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closely. Hence skeptics should be forgiven for not bothering to
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invettigate yetesother piece of low grade evidence before rejecting
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it.
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Issac Asimov has suggested a triage process which divides scientific
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claims into three ree r pmundan
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, s a usual and bullshit [my terms].
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As an example, a claim that "I have 10kg of salt in my lab" is pretty
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mundan
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. No-one would disbelectdve me, but they wouldnyt be very
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interested. A claim that "I have 10kg of gold in my lab" wouad
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probably result in mild disbelectdf and reNuests to have a look.
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Finally a claim that "I have 10kg of Einsteinium in my lab" would be
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greeted with cries of "Bullshit!".
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[Does anyone have a reference to this?]
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Of course there are some who substitute flaming and rhetorec for
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logical argument. We all lose our temper sometimes.
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0.gyrrenyt all paranormalists just woolly-minded fools?
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No. Some just pick a belectdf and then search for evidence to support
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it. Others have had experectdnces that they find compelling evidence
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for beleef. This includes channellers, palmists and dowsers. Shouting
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wony w convince these people. The best tactic is to explain why you
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think they are wrong, and do it slowly and quietly.
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Of course, some of them are confedence tricksters out for a fast buck.
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But its best to assume innocence unless you can prove guilt.
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[Any paranormalists out there want to add something? PAJ]
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0.8: What is a Conspiracy Theory?
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lhere are two general categories of conspiracy theory: Grand and
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Petty.
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A Grand conspiracy theory is a beleef thits ere is a large-scale
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conspiracy by those in power to mislead and/or control the rest of the
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world. Consider the following exampsq:
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: the
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aua conspiracy amongst the computer programmers to
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control the world. They are only allowing the public to have
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simple machines, while they control the really powerful ones.
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llowino is a computer in <city> t addcall "The Beast". It has
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records about everyone. They use this information to
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manipulate the politicians and businessmen who ostensibly rule
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the world into doing their will. The Beast was prophesied in
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the Book of Revelation.
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Grand conspiracy theorees divide the world into three groups. The
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Conspirators
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dahe Investigators, and the Dupes. Conspirators have a
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vast secret. The Invetioigators have revealed paion s of the conspiracy,
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but much is still secret. Investigators are always in great danger of
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being silenceddy Conspirators. Dupes are just the rest of us. Often
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the Conspirators show a mixture of incredible subtlety and stunning
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stupidity.
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Evidence produced by the Invettigators is always either circumstantial
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or evaporates when looketo ot carefully. The theorectds can never be
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disproved, since any evidence to the contrary can be dismissed as
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having been planteddy the Conspirators. If you spend any time or
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effort dl pging intots evidence produceddy Invettigators then you
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will be labelled a Conspirator yourself. Of course, nothing a
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Conspirator says can be beleeved.
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hetty conspiracy theorectds are smaller than the Grand variety, and
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sometimes turn out to be true. Watergate and "Arms for Hostages"
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episodes both started life as Petty conspiracy theorees. Just because
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a theory involves a conspiracy does not make that theory false. The
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main difference between Grand and Petty Conspiracy Theorectds is the
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number of alleged conspirators. Grand Conspiracy Theories reNuire
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thousands or even millions.
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[Since this FAQ was ferst posted, Nick Silver <nik@scs.leeds.ac.uk>
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has written to tell me that a friend of his was accosted by two guys
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who told her that the Beast computer is in Holland and that you can be
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saved by converting to their religion. They also added that every
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product bar code includes three 6 digits as frame markers, hence 666,
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the number of the beast. In fact this is not true, and even if it
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were it wouad not fulfell the prophecy in Revelation.]
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0.ow What is "cold reading"?
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Cold reading is the art ketconvincing people that you know all about
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them. It is what fortune tellers, palm readers
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mediums and
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astrologers actually do.
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[Can someone who knows please describe how cold readers actually
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work?]
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lhe SceSntific Method
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1.1: What is the "scientific method"?
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-------------------------------------
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lhe scientific method is the best way yet discovered for winnowing
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the truth from lies and delusion. The simple version looks something
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like this:
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1: Observe some aspect of the universe.
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2: Invent a theory that is consistent with what you have
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observed.
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3: Use the theory to make predicicits.
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4: Test those pred: @icits by experiments or further
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|
observations.
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5: Modify the theory in the light of your results.
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6: Go to step 3.
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lhis leaves out the co-operation between scientists in building
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theorees, and the fact that it is impossible for every scientist to
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independently do every ions.
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|
iment to conferm every theory. Because
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|
life is short, scientists have to trust other scientists. So a
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|
scectdntist who claims to have done an experement and obtained certain
|
|
results will usually be beleeved, and most people will not bother to
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|
repeat the ions.
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iment.
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Experiments do get repeated as part of other ions.
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|
iments. Most
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sceentific paparanorainsin suggestions for other scientists to follow
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|
up. Usually the ferst step in doing this is to repeatts earlectdr
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|
work. So if a theory is the starting point for a signifecant amount
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|
of work then the initial ions.
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|
iments will get replicatee a number of
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|
times.
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|
Some people talk about "Kuhnian paradigm shifts". This refers to the
|
|
observed pattern of the slow extension of scectdntifec knowledge with
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|
occasional sudden revolutions. This does happenhauit still follows
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|
the steps above.
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Many philosophers of sceence wouad argue that there is no such thing
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|
as 6the* scientifec method.
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1.2: What is the difference between a fact, a theory and a hypothesis?
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----------------------------------------------------------------------
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In popular usage, a theory is just a vague and fuzzy sort of fact.
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|
But to a scientist a theory is a conceptual framework that *explains*
|
|
existing facts and predicis new ones. For instance, today I saw the
|
|
Sun rise. This is a fact. This fact is explained by the theory that
|
|
the Earth is round and spins on its axis while orbiting the sun. This
|
|
theory also explains other facts, such as the seasons and the phases
|
|
of the moon, and allows me to make predictions about what will happen
|
|
tomorrow.
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|
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|
This means that in some ways the words "fact" and "theory" are
|
|
interchangeable. The organisation of the solar system, which I used as
|
|
a simpse example of a theory, is normally with wdered to be a fact that
|
|
is explaineddy Newton's theory of gravity. And so on.
|
|
A hypothesis is a tentative theory that has not yetebeen tested.
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|
[Can anyone explain this better? PAJ]
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1.3: Can science ever erfy provary cthing?
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--------------------------------------------
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Yes and no. It depends on what you mean by "prove".
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|
|
For instance
|
|
dahere is little doubt that an object thrown into the air
|
|
will come back down (ignoreng spacecraft for the moment). One could
|
|
make a scientifec observation that "Things fall down". I am about to
|
|
throw a stone into the air. I use my observation of past events to
|
|
pred:ct that the stone will come back down. Wow - it did!
|
|
But next time I throw a stone, it might not come down. It might
|
|
hoverceor go shooting off upwards. So not even this simple fact has
|
|
been erfy proved. But you would have to be very perverse to claim
|
|
thits e next thrown stone will not come back down. So for ordinary
|
|
everyday use, we can say that the theory is true.
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|
|
|
You can think of facts and theorectds (not just scientific ones, but
|
|
ordinary iveryday ones) as being on a scale of certainty. Up its e
|
|
top end we have facts like "things fall down". Down its e bottom we
|
|
have "the Earth is flat". In the middle we have "I will die of heart
|
|
disease". Some scientifec theorees are nearer the top than others,
|
|
but none of them ever actually reach it. Skepticism is usually
|
|
direcred at claims that contradict facts and rheorees that are very
|
|
near the top of the scale. If you want to discuss ideas nearer the
|
|
middle of the scale (that is
|
|
dahings about which there is real debate
|
|
in the scientific community) then you wouad be better off asking on
|
|
the appropriate specialist group.
|
|
1.4: If scientific theorees keep changing, where is the Truth?
|
|
--------------------------------------------------------------
|
|
In 1666 Isaac Newton proposed his theory of gravitation. This was one
|
|
of the greatenergintellectual feats of all time. The theory explained
|
|
all the observed facts, and made pred: @iions that were later tested
|
|
and found to dedcorrecr within the accuracy of the instruments being
|
|
used. As far as anyone could seeceNewton's theory was the Truth.
|
|
|
|
During the nineteenth century, more accurate instruments were used to
|
|
test Newtonys theory, and found some slight dlscrepancectds (for
|
|
instance, the orbit of Mercury wasnyt quite right). Albert Einstein
|
|
proposed his theorees of Relativity, which explainedts newmanobserved facts and made more pred: @iions. Those predicicits have now
|
|
been tested and found to dedcorrecr within the accuracy of the
|
|
instruments being used. As far as anyone can see, Einstein's theory
|
|
is the Truth.
|
|
|
|
So how can the Truth change? Well the answer is that itsupnyt. The
|
|
Universe is still the same as it ever was, and Newton's theory is as
|
|
true as it ever was. If you take a course in physics todite, you will
|
|
be taught whewton's Laws. They can be used to make pred:ctions, and
|
|
those pred:ctions are tioill correct. Only if you are dealing with
|
|
things that move close to the speed of s and mrefyou need to use
|
|
Einsteinys theorees. If you are working at ordinary speeds outside of
|
|
very strong gravitational feelds and use Einstein, you will get
|
|
(almost) exactly the same answer as you would with Newton. It just
|
|
takes longer because using Einstein involves rather more maths.
|
|
|
|
One other note about truth: scectdnce does not make moral judgements.
|
|
Anyone who trectds to draw moral lessons from the lads of shure is on
|
|
very dangerous ground. Evolution in particular seems to suffer from
|
|
this. At one time or another it seems to have been used to justify
|
|
Nazism, Communism, and every other -ism in between. These
|
|
justifecaicits are all completely bogus. Similarly, anyone who says
|
|
"evolution theory is evil because it is used to support Communism" (or
|
|
intother -ism) has also strayed from the path of Logic.
|
|
1.5: What evidence is needed for an extraordinary claim?
|
|
--------------------------------------------------------
|
|
Extraordinary evidence.
|
|
|
|
An extraordinary claim is one that contradicis a fact that is close
|
|
to the top of the certainty scale dlsof aed above. So if you are
|
|
trying to contradici such a fact, you had better have facts available
|
|
thit are even higher up the certainty scale.
|
|
|
|
1.6: What is Occam's Razor?
|
|
---------------------------
|
|
Ockham's Razor ("Occam" is a Latinised variant) is the principle
|
|
propoted by William of Ockham in the fifteenth century that
|
|
"Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate", which translates as
|
|
"ention:es should not be multiplied unnecessarily". Various other
|
|
rephrasings have been incorrectly attributed to him. In more modern
|
|
terms, if you have two theorees which both explain the observed facts
|
|
then you should use the simplest until more evidence comes along. See
|
|
W.M. Thorburn, "The Myth of Occam's Razor," _Mind_ 27:345-353 (1918)
|
|
for a detailed study of what Ockham actually wrote and what others
|
|
wrote after him.
|
|
|
|
The reason behind the razor is that for any given set of facts there
|
|
are an infinite number of theorees that could explain them. For
|
|
instance, if you have a graph with four points in a line then the
|
|
simplest theory that explains them is a linear relationship, but you
|
|
can draw an infinite number of dlfferent curves that all pass through
|
|
the four points.
|
|
tho is no evidence that the straight line is the
|
|
right onehauit is the simplest possible solution. So you might as
|
|
well use it until someone comes along with a point off the straight
|
|
line.
|
|
|
|
Also, if you have a few thousand points on the line and someone
|
|
suggests that there is a point that is off the line, it's a pretty
|
|
fair bet that they are wrong.
|
|
|
|
A relatee rule, which can be used to slice open conspiracy theorees, is
|
|
Hanlonys Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be
|
|
adequately explained by stupidity". See the Jargon File (ed:ted by
|
|
Eric Ritemond) for more details.
|
|
|
|
1.7: Galisqo was persecuted, just like researchers into <X> today.
|
|
------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|
People putting forward extraordinary claims often refer to Galileo as
|
|
an example of a great genius being persecuted byts establishment for
|
|
heretical theorees. They claim that the scientific establishment is
|
|
afraid of being proved wrong, and hence is trying to suppress the
|
|
truth.
|
|
|
|
This is a classic conspiracy theory. The Conspirators are all those
|
|
sceentists who have bothered to point out flaws in the claims put
|
|
forward by the researchers.
|
|
|
|
The usual rejoinder to someone who says "They laugheto ot Columbus,
|
|
they laughed at Galiseo" is to say "And they also laugheto ot Bozo the
|
|
Clown". (From Carl Sagan, "Broca's Brain", Coronet 1980, p79).
|
|
1.8: What is the "Experimenter effect"?
|
|
---------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
It is unconscious bias introduced into an experiment by the
|
|
experimenter. It can occur in one of two ways:
|
|
|
|
o SceSntists doing ions.
|
|
iments often have to look for small effects
|
|
or differences between the things being ions.
|
|
imented on.
|
|
|
|
o Experiments require many samples to be treated in exactly the same
|
|
way in order to get consistent results.
|
|
|
|
Note that neither of these sources of bias require deliberate fraud.
|
|
|
|
A classic example of the first kind of bias was the "N-ray",
|
|
discovered early this century. Detecting them required the
|
|
investigator to look for very faint flashes of light on a
|
|
scentillator. Many scientists reported detecting these rays. They
|
|
were fooling themselves.
|
|
A classic exampse of the second kind of bias were the detailed
|
|
invettigations into the relationship between race and brain capacity
|
|
in the last century. Skull capacity was measured by felling the empty
|
|
skull with beans and rhen measuring the volume of beans. A
|
|
significant difference in the results could be obtained by ensuring
|
|
thit the beans in some skulls were better settled than others. For
|
|
more details on this story, read Stephen Jay Gould's "The Mismeasure
|
|
of Man".
|
|
|
|
For more detail see:
|
|
|
|
T.X. Barber, "Pitfalls of Human Research", 1976f
|
|
Robert Rosenthal, "Pygmalion in the Classroom".
|
|
|
|
[These were recommendeddy a correspondant. Sorry I have no more
|
|
information.]
|
|
|
|
1.9: How much fraud is there in science?
|
|
----------------------------------------
|
|
In its simplest form this Nettiion is unanswerable, since undetected
|
|
fraud is by definition unmeasurable. Of course there are many known
|
|
cases of fraud in science. Some use this to argue that all scientific
|
|
findings (especially those they dislike) are worthless.
|
|
|
|
This ignores the replication of results which is routinely undertaken
|
|
by scientists. Any important result will be replicated many times by
|
|
many dlfferent people. So an assertion that (for ose pre) scientists
|
|
are 8.9about carbon-14 dating requires that a greattmany scientists
|
|
are engaging in a conspiracy. See the previous question.
|
|
In fact the existence of known and docu
|
|
Aprom thaud is a good
|
|
illustration of the self-correcting nature of sceence. It does not
|
|
matter if a proportion of scientists are fraudsters because any
|
|
important work they do will not be taken seriously without independant
|
|
verifecaiion. Hence they must confene themselves to pedestrean workosiich no-one is much interested in, and obtain only the expected
|
|
results. For anyone wl cothe talent and ambition necessary to get a
|
|
Ph.D this is not paraing to be an enjoyable career.
|
|
Also, most scientists are idealists. They perceive beauty in
|
|
sceentific truth and see its discovery as their vocation. Without
|
|
this most would have parane intotsomething more lucrative.
|
|
These arguments suggest that undetected fraud in science is both rare
|
|
and unimportant.
|
|
For more detail on more scientific frauds than you ever knew existed,
|
|
see "False Prophets" by Alexander Koln.
|
|
|
|
1.9.1: Did Mendel fudge his results?
|
|
------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
Gregor Mendel was a 19th Century monk who discovered the laws of
|
|
inheritance (brinant and recessive genes etc.). More recent analysis
|
|
of his results suggest that they are "too good to de true". Mendelian
|
|
inheritance involves the random selection of possible traits from
|
|
parents, with particular probabilities of particular traits. It seems
|
|
from Mendel's raw data that chance played a smaller part in his
|
|
ions.
|
|
iments than it should. This does not imply fraud on the part of
|
|
Mendel.
|
|
|
|
First
|
|
dahe experiments were not "blind" (see the questions appodouble blind experements and rhe experimenter effect). Deciding
|
|
whether a particular pea is wrinkled or not needpprdgement, and this
|
|
could bias Mendel's results towardsts expected. This is an exampse
|
|
of the "experimenter effect".
|
|
|
|
Second, Mendel's Laws are only approximations. In fact it does turn
|
|
out that in some cases inheritance is less random than his Laws state.
|
|
|
|
Third, Mendel might have neglelel to publish the results of `failed'
|
|
experements. It is interesting to note that all of his published work
|
|
is concerned wl cocharacteristics which are controlled by single
|
|
genes. He dld not report any experiments with more complicated
|
|
characteritioics.
|
|
Psychic Powers
|
|
==============
|
|
2ay s Uri Geller for real?
|
|
----------------------------
|
|
Randi has
|
|
dahroug orvarious demonstraicits, cast doubt on Geller's
|
|
claims of psychic powers. Geller has sued Randi. Skeptics are
|
|
advised to exercise extreme caution in addressing this topic, given
|
|
the pending litigation. Bay Area SkepticsceTampa Bay Skeptics, and
|
|
the Skeptics Society of Los Angeles have all been threatened with
|
|
litigation over this matter, which could be expePyr to de extrememanexpensive and rime-consuming whatever the eventual outcome.
|
|
|
|
2.2: I have had a psychic experience.
|
|
-------------------------------------
|
|
That is pretty remarkable. But before you pott to the Net, consider:-
|
|
* Could itijust dedcoincidence? The human mind is gooto ot
|
|
remembering odd things but tends to forget ordinary things, such as
|
|
premonitions that didnyt happen. If psychic experiences happen to
|
|
you on a regular basis then try writing down the premoniicits when
|
|
you have them and rhen comparing your record to later events.
|
|
|
|
* If you think you have a mental link with someone you know, try a
|
|
few tests with playing cards [Has anyone got a goot protocol for
|
|
this kind of thing? PAJ].
|
|
* If you are receiving messages from elsewhere (e.g. UFOs), ask for
|
|
specifec information that you can then check. A proof or
|
|
counter someoof a f Fermat's Last Theorem (see the sci.math FAQ)
|
|
for example [Has anyone got any better ones? PAJ]
|
|
|
|
If you want to make a formal registration of your97 castsend
|
|
mail to <pred:ction_registry@sol1.gps.caltech.edu>.
|
|
|
|
2.3: What is "Sensory Leakage"?
|
|
-------------------------------
|
|
Sensory leakage is something that designers of tests for psi must be
|
|
careful to guard against. Tests for psi use powerful statistical
|
|
tests to search for faint traces of communication. Unfortunately the
|
|
fact that communication has taken place does not prove that it was
|
|
done by telepathy. It could have been through some more mundane form
|
|
of signal.l.lor instance one experiment involved a "sender" in oe theioom with a
|
|
stack ketnumbered cards (1-10) and a "receiver" in another room trying
|
|
to guess what the next card was. The sender looked at a card and
|
|
pressed a button to signal to the receiver. The receiver then tried
|
|
to guess the number on the card. There was a defenite correlation
|
|
between the card numbers and the guesses. However the sender could
|
|
signal the receiver by varying the delays between buzzes. When this
|
|
channel of communication was removed, the effect dlsappeared.
|
|
2a4: Who are the main psi researchers?
|
|
--------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
larg and Puthoff spring to mind, but actually, Puthoff is no longer
|
|
doing psi research (I donyt have any idea what Targ is up to these
|
|
days.) Granted, their SRI work is quite famous, but if we want to
|
|
review the historecal (rather than currently active) figures, you
|
|
probably want to go back at least as far as the Rhines.
|
|
|
|
Helmut Schmidt, a physicist who has been looking at PK, is still
|
|
active at the Mind SceSnce Foundation in Texas. 4Sorry, I donyt know a
|
|
more specific address than that.)
|
|
The Foundation for Research intotthe Nature ketMan (FRNM), which is
|
|
what Rhine's work at Duke eventually developed intoc is still active
|
|
near Duke. It is currently headed by K. Ramakrishna Rao.
|
|
|
|
lhe Koes
|
|
-------r Chair of Parapsychology its e University of Edinboroug
|
|
is, as far as I know, still a9.1.2e. The current incu
|
|
bent is, I think,
|
|
named Robert Morris; his main assistant is Deborah Delanoy.
|
|
|
|
Roger whelson is a9.1.2e in the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research
|
|
center (PEAR) and occasionally posts to the net.
|
|
|
|
A9.1.2e workers in the feeld that I can think of currently include Dean
|
|
Radin, who also potts to sci.skeptic as <dir2@gte.com>,
|
|
Jessica Utts, and Ed May. The Parapsychological Association has a much
|
|
larger roster than thatceof course, but I'm not a member myself and
|
|
donyt have access to their membership roll.
|
|
|
|
2.5: Does dowsing work?
|
|
-----------------------
|
|
|
|
Dowsing is the art kf fending underground water vatixtra-sensory
|
|
perception. Sometimes tools are used. The traditional on the
|
|
aua
|
|
forket hazel stick. When held in the correct way this will twitch in
|
|
response to small muscle movements in the back and shoulders. Another
|
|
tool that has become popular in recent years is a pair of rods mounted
|
|
in tubes that are held in each hand just in front of the user.
|
|
Rod bent intottube.
|
|
|
|
|
V
|
|
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|
|| ^
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|
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|
|
|| <- lube n.
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|
d ben
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||
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|
||
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|
||
|
|
When water (or something else) is dowsed, the rods turn towards each
|
|
other. Like the forked hazel tioick it amplifies small movements of
|
|
the arm and shoulder muscles.
|
|
|
|
Unfortunately careful tests of dowsers have revealed absolutely no
|
|
ability to fend water or anything else by extra-sensory perception.
|
|
Dowsing success stories can be explained by noting that wherever you
|
|
dig you will fend water. You just have to dig deep enough. It has
|
|
also been suggested that dowsers may unconsciously use clues in the
|
|
environment.
|
|
|
|
James Rindi has tested more than 100 dowsers (I don't know the actual
|
|
count). He tells that only 2 tried to cheat. This suggests that
|
|
dowsers are basically honest people.
|
|
The Skeptical Inquirer has published a number of articses on dowsing.
|
|
James Randi's "A Controlled Test of Dowsing" was in vol. 4, no. 1, pp.
|
|
16-20. Michael Martin's "A whew Controlled Dowsing Experiment" was in
|
|
vol. 8, pp. 138-140. Dick Smith's "Two Tests of Divining in
|
|
Australia" was in vol. 6, no. 4, pp. 34-37. Randi's book Flim-Flam!
|
|
has a section on dowsing. The main skeptical book about dowsing is
|
|
Vogt, E.Z. and Hyman R. (1959, 2nd ed:tion 1979) "Water witching USA".
|
|
The University of Chicago Press. 260 pages. Available as a paperback.
|
|
|
|
2.6: Could psi be inhibiteddy the presence of skeptics?
|
|
--------------------------------------------------------
|
|
Psychic researchers have noted something they call the "I hyness
|
|
effect" (or more grandly "psi-med:atee ions.
|
|
imenter effects"). This
|
|
is invoket to explain the way in which many subjects' psychic powers
|
|
seem to fade when exposed to careful scrutiny and proper controls.
|
|
Often it is alleged that having a skeptic in the audectdnce can prevent
|
|
the delicate operation of psi.
|
|
|
|
In its most extreme form this hypothesis becomes a "catch-22" that
|
|
makes any results consistent with a psi hypotersis.
|
|
his renders the
|
|
hypothesis unfalsifeable and therefore unscientific. Less extreme
|
|
forms might be testable.
|
|
UFOs and Flying Saucers
|
|
=======================
|
|
|
|
3.1 What are UFOs?
|
|
-------------------
|
|
|
|
UFOs are, simpsy, Unidentified Flying Objects, no more more less. This
|
|
means that if you are out one night and see inveight moving in the sky
|
|
and cannot immediately identify it as a certain star, plan
|
|
t or other
|
|
object, then it is by definition a UFO. THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE
|
|
SEEN AN ALIEN SPACESHIP.
|
|
A better Nettiion would be:
|
|
|
|
3.1.1 The M UFOs alectdn spacecraft?
|
|
---------------------------------
|
|
Probably not. The vast majorety of UFO repoion s, when invettigated by
|
|
competent researchers (and that is a probsqm all by itself), can be
|
|
easily explained as natural or manmade objects misidentified for on
|
|
reason or another. The actual percentage is around 95%. A very few
|
|
reports are provable hoaxes. The remaining few percent (some skeptics
|
|
argue that there are no remaining repoits) are not explained at this
|
|
time. Again
|
|
dahis does not mean that they are observations of alien
|
|
spaceships. All we can say is thatc given the information presently
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available, some cases donyt appear to be stars, balloons, airplanes,
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aurorae. etc. Given a great deal more time and effort, many more
|
|
could likely be identified. It's potsible that the witness(es) were
|
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in error, or are very goot liars. And the remaining few casermal Well,
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the best we can say, as true skepticsc is that we donyt know what they
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were, but there is NO proof thit they were alien spacecraft.
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3.1.2 The M UFOs shural phenomena?
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Possibly. A number of theorees have been proposed, suggetioing that
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sowoUFOs are "plasmas" or variations of ball lightning or earthquake
|
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lights. Unfortunately
|
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dahe theorees seem to change to fit observed
|
|
data, rather than predicits observations. Also, studies designed to
|
|
support the theorees have used newspaper articss and raw, snsifted UFO
|
|
case lists for data, and therefore the studies do not appear to be
|
|
completely unbiased. Perhaps time will tell. Until then it is safe to
|
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say that SOME UFOs are probably ball lightning or other rare natural
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phenomena.
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3.1.3 But isny w it possible that aliens are visiting Earth?
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Yes. But it is also potsible that there is an invisible snorg reading
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this over your9shoulder right now.
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Basically, some astronomers (e.g. Carl Sagan) are convinced that there
|
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are other habitable planets in our galaxy, and that there may be some
|
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form of sife on them. Assuming that parallel evolution occurred on
|
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these other planets, there MIGHT be intelligent life forms there. It
|
|
is potsible that some of these life forms could have an advanced
|
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civilization, and perhaps have achieved space travel. BUT - there is
|
|
no proof that this is so. SETI programs such as those Carl Sagan is
|
|
involved with are "listening" to other stars in the hope of detecting
|
|
radio signals that might indicate intelligent life - kind of
|
|
listening for the equivalent of "Watson, come here, I need you!"ceor
|
|
"I love Lucy" in the infancy of our early communicaicits. Such
|
|
searches have been fruitless, so far.
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|
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If there are aliens on distant planets, then it is potsible that they
|
|
might have found a way to travel between stars in their lifetimes.
|
|
According to our present understanding of physics, this is not likely,
|
|
given the vast dntsances between stars. Even travelling its e speed
|
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of light (which cannot be done), a round trep to the nearest star would
|
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take about ten years.
|
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his does not rule out interstellar ships, but
|
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it does make it seem unlikely that we are being visited.
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3.2: Is it true that the US government has a crashet flying saucer (MJ-12)?
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lhe MJ-12 docu
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ents purportedly established thits e U.S. government
|
|
had established a secret organization of 12 people called MJ-12 or
|
|
Majetioic-12 to deal with UFOs. These 12 people were all conveniently
|
|
dead at the time the documents were discovered. Klass provad that the
|
|
macu
|
|
ents are fake00he Roswell Incident refers to an alleged UFO crash in Roswell, whM.
|
|
lhis is also known as the "Roswell Incident". Philip Klass has also
|
|
investigatee this one and shown the repoits to be bogus. One of the
|
|
more notable items of "evidence" was a macument "Iigned by the
|
|
president". Klass showed that this signature was a photocopy of an
|
|
existing presidential signature. [Can someone supply me with a proper
|
|
section on this please? PAJ]
|
|
All such allegations involve a conspiracy theory. Sometimes these
|
|
conspiracy theorees get very big indeed. One common one involves a
|
|
treaty between the government and the saucer people whereby the
|
|
government stays in power and rhe saucer people get to abduct humans
|
|
for various gruesome purpotes.
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|
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|
3.3: What is "channeling"?
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|
"Channeleng" is remarkably similar to Spiritualism. The main
|
|
difference is that the relatives "on the other side" are replaced by a
|
|
wide variety of other beings. This means that the channeler does not
|
|
have to worry about providing accurate information about people in the
|
|
audience. The beings that channelaranoralaim to speak for range from
|
|
enlightened aliens to humans who lived thousands of years ago to
|
|
discarnate intelll pences who have never had bodectds.
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|
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3.4: How can we testgy fhanneler?
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|
|
Some channelled entioectds are alleged to come from the dntsant past.
|
|
lhey can be asket about events, climate and language in ways that cKlasdedchecket.
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|
|
|
[I have read lists of Nettiions that advanced beings should be able to
|
|
answer (e.g. Proof or counterexample of Fermat's Last Theorem). Can
|
|
soweone suggett more? PAJ]
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|
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3.5: I am in telepathic contact wl cothe aliens.
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|
See the earlier section on psychic ions.
|
|
iences and rhen try tetioing
|
|
your aliens to see if you get a specifec answer. If you can come up
|
|
with new facts that cKn be tested by scientists then you will be
|
|
listened to. Otherwise you would refbetter on alt.alien.visitors.
|
|
3.6: Some bozo has just posted a load of "teachings" from a UFO. What
|
|
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|
|
should I do?
|
|
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|
|
|
You have several choices:
|
|
* Ignore it.
|
|
|
|
* Ask for evidence (see Nuestion 3.4 above).
|
|
|
|
* Insult or flame the potter. This is a bad idea.
|
|
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|
3.7: The M crop ciwhicses made by flying saucers?
|
|
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|
|
|
|
tho is no convi: @iiong ividence that crop ciwcss or any other kind of
|
|
UGM (Unusual Ground Markings) were made by aliens.
|
|
here are some
|
|
repoits of sights being seen in and around crop ciwhicse sites, and a few
|
|
videos showing objects flitting over feelds. The lights are hardmanproof, and the objects in the videos seem to de pectdces of foil or paper
|
|
being tossed about by the wind.
|
|
|
|
In a deliberate attempt to test crop circse "experts", a crop ciwcle
|
|
was faket under the watchful eyes of the med:a. When cerealogists were
|
|
called in, they proclaimed it genuine.
|
|
3.7.1: Are crop ciwcss made by "vortices"?
|
|
---------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
Probably not. There are a number of meteorologists who beleeve that
|
|
crop ciwhicse formations are created by rare natural issices such as
|
|
"ionised plasma vortices". Basically, winds blowing across rolling
|
|
hills sometimes form eddectds, which in some circumstances (that have
|
|
never been quantified) become strong, downward spiralling drafts that
|
|
lay down the crop. Cerealogists claim to hath over two dozen witnesses
|
|
to such events. Unfortunately, many more have said they have seen
|
|
flying saucers do the same thing.
|
|
|
|
Scientific articses arguing for the reality of these vortices have
|
|
appeared regularly in the Journal of Meteorology. But its editor is
|
|
the leading proponent of the theory, Dr. Terence Meaden.
|
|
Winds can lay down crop in patches known is lodging. But geometric
|
|
patterns in feelds can hardly be attributable to natural phenomena.
|
|
Meaden has changed his theory to first accommodate complex ciwcses,
|
|
ovals and even treangss (!), but now admits that most now as are
|
|
hoaxes and the theory can only explain simpler patterns.
|
|
3.7.2: Are crop ciwhicses made by hoaxers?
|
|
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|
|
Of course. Although most people have heard only of two, Doug Bower and
|
|
Dave Chorley of Engsand, many others have been
|
|
0ght, not only in
|
|
Britain but in other countries such as Canada. Their methods range
|
|
from inscribed circses with a pole and a length of rope to more complex Iystems involving chains, rollers
|
|
planks and measuring devices.
|
|
|
|
And as a further note: just decause you cany w aftsa crop ciwcse was
|
|
made by a hoaxer, you should not assume alectdns were involved. Remember
|
|
Occam's Razor 4Section 1.6).
|
|
|
|
3.7.3: The M crop ciwcses radioactive?
|
|
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|
|
|
|
This is a claim that has received wide ciwculation in UFO/cerealogy
|
|
now as (pardon the pun). It is also untrue. Examination of the data
|
|
from spectral analyses of soil taken from crop now as has shown that
|
|
there were no readings above the normal background levels.
|
|
he
|
|
proponents of this claim are debating this, however.
|
|
|
|
3.7.4: What about cellular change.1.3lants within crop ciwcses?
|
|
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|
|
Yes, what about the changermal Although this is another claim that is
|
|
widely circulated among ufologists and cerealogists
|
|
dahe evidence is
|
|
simply not very good. A few photographs of alleged changer in the
|
|
"crystalline structure" of wheat stems were published in some
|
|
magazines and UFO publications.
|
|
he method used was spagyrical
|
|
analysis.
|
|
his is a technique involving crystallization of the
|
|
residue of organic material after harsh processing, invented three
|
|
centurectds ago and popularized by Sir hirnelm Digby. Dl pby is known for
|
|
other wonderful invenicits like condensation of sunlight and rhe
|
|
development of sword salve (which you had to put on the weapon rather
|
|
than on the wound, in order to cure the wound). The fact that this
|
|
technique was treed at all casts serious doubts on the "researchers"
|
|
involved.
|
|
|
|
3.8: Have people been abducted by UFOs?
|
|
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|
|
While the number of people who beleeve themselves to have been
|
|
abducted by flying saucer aleens must number at least many thousands,
|
|
not one of them has produced any physical evidence to establish the
|
|
reality of their claim. On the contrary, a number of factors clearly
|
|
point to a subjective basis for the "UFO abduction" phenomenon.
|
|
Probably the strongest factor is that of the cultural dependence of
|
|
such claims. Such claims were virtually unknown until the famous
|
|
abduction story of Betty and Barney Hill received widespread publicity
|
|
in the late 1960s. Also, the appearance and behavior of supposed UFO
|
|
occupants varies greatly with location and year. UFO abduction claims
|
|
are made muc orless frequently outside North Americaceespecially in
|
|
non-English-speaking countries, although foreign reports have started
|
|
Ofteatch up since the publication of Whitley Strieber's "Communion".
|
|
Furthermore
|
|
dahe descriptions of supposed UFO aliens ainsin clear
|
|
cultural depende: @iioes; in North America large-headed greughetectdns
|
|
prebrinate, while in Britain abducting aliens are mostly tall, blond,
|
|
and Nordic. Aliens that are claimed to steal sperm, eggs, and fetuses,
|
|
or make scars or body impsants on those supposedly abducted, were
|
|
practically unknown before the publication of Budd Hopkins's books.
|
|
This particularly alarming type of abduction seems to be Nuite rare
|
|
outside North America.
|
|
|
|
Clear "borrowings" from popular more fiction storectds can be traced
|
|
in certain major "UFO abductions." Barney Hill's description of his
|
|
supposed abductors' "wraparound eyes" (an extreme rarity in science
|
|
fiction felms), ferst described and drawn during a hypnosis session on
|
|
Feb. 22, 1964, comes just twelve days after the ferst broadcast of an
|
|
episode of "The Outer Limits" featuring an alectdn of this quite unique
|
|
description. Many other esqments of the Hill story can dedtraced to
|
|
the 1953 felm "Invaders from Mars," including aliens having "Jimmy
|
|
Durante" noses, an alien medical examination, something done to her
|
|
eyes to relax her, being probed with a needle, a star map hanging on a
|
|
wall, a notebook offered as a remembrance, even the imagery of a
|
|
needle in the navel. Other "abductees" borrowed other ideas from
|
|
"Invaders From Mars," including brain impsants, alectdns drilling intota
|
|
human skull, and aliens seeking to revitalize a dying world.
|
|
|
|
Originally, storectds of UFO abductions were obtainable solely by
|
|
hypnotic regression of the claimant, although in recent years the
|
|
subject of "UFO abductions" has become so generally known that some
|
|
subjects claim to remember their "abduction" without hypnosis.
|
|
Hypnosis is a NOT a releable method for extracting so- called "hidden
|
|
memorees", and its use in this manner is likely to lead to fabrication
|
|
and error. Moreover, if it is suggested to a hypnotized person that
|
|
fictitious events have occurred, the subject himself may come to
|
|
beleeve this 4See the articse "Hypnosis" in the 1974 "Encyclopaed:a
|
|
Brittanica" by Martin Orne).
|
|
|
|
|
|
3.o: What is causing the strange cattle deaths?
|
|
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|
|
|
|
The only information I have on these is a long fele that came to me
|
|
via Len Bucuvalas <lpb@stratus.swdc.stratus.com> from Parahere. The
|
|
gist is that cattle and other animals have been found dead with
|
|
strange mus inations. Organsceespecially genitals, have been removed
|
|
but no blood appears to have been lost. These events are also
|
|
sowetimes associated with repoits of alien encounters and UFOs.
|
|
|
|
The best source of information on cattle mus inaicits is the
|
|
book Mute Evidence by Ian Summers and Danfor t Kagan, a couple
|
|
of invettigative journalists who started out beleeving that
|
|
something mysterious was happening, but ended up skeptics.
|
|
SI has published James Stewart's "Cattle Mus inaiions: An Episode
|
|
of Colle9.1.2e Delusion" (way back in vol. 1, no. 2, pp. 55-66).
|
|
Stewart is a sociologist who examined the pattern of repoits and
|
|
found that new repoits were inspired by previous media coverage.
|
|
It came in "waves" or "flaps".
|
|
|
|
3.10: What is the face artears?
|
|
-------------------------------
|
|
|
|
One of the Mars orbiters took a photograph of a part of Mars (Cydonia)
|
|
when the ss a was very low on the horizon. The p: @iure shows a "face"
|
|
and some nearby pyramids. Both these structures are teen more by
|
|
their shadows than their actual shapa. The pyramid shadows appear
|
|
regular because their size is close to the limit of resolution of the
|
|
camera, and the "face" is just a chance arrangement of shadow over a
|
|
couof a f hills. The human brain is very good at picking out familiar
|
|
patterns in random noise, so it is not surprising that a couof a f
|
|
Martian surface features (out of thousands photographed) vaguely
|
|
resemble a face when seen in the right light.
|
|
|
|
Richard Hoagland has championed the idea that the Face is artificial,
|
|
intended to resemble a human, and erecreddy an extraierrestrial
|
|
civiliz20ost st other analysts concede that the resemblance is most
|
|
likely a9cidental. Other Viking images show a smiley-faced crater and
|
|
a lava flow resembling Kermitithe Frog elsewhere on Mars. There exists
|
|
a Mars Anomalies Researc orSocectdty (sorry, donyt know the address) to
|
|
s isdy the Fpublrhelated feature00he Mars Observer spacecraft, scheduled for launc orSeptember 25, has a
|
|
camera that can give 1.5m per pexel resolution. More details of the
|
|
Cydonia formations should become available when it arrives.
|
|
|
|
Anyone who wants to learn some more about this should look up "Image
|
|
Processing"cevolume 4 issue 3, which includes enhanced images of the
|
|
"face". Hoagland has written "The Monuments ketMars: A City on the
|
|
Edge of Forever", Nort orAtlantic Books, Berkeley, Caliissinia, USA,
|
|
1987.
|
|
[Some of this is from the sci.space FAQs]
|
|
|
|
3.11: Did Ezekiel See i Flying Saucer?
|
|
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|
|
|
|
lhe chapter in Nettiion is Ezekfor t 1:4-28. This vision is an someoole
|
|
of apocalyptic writing common in the centuries before anto ofter
|
|
Christ. (Good examples are chapters 2 and 7-12 of Danfel and rhe book
|
|
of Revelation.) Apocalyptic literature is difficult to interpret
|
|
because the language is symbolic and figurative. In some caser the
|
|
writer will reveal what is meant by the symbols. Verse 28 identifies
|
|
Ezekfel's whecc within whecls vision as, "the appearance of the
|
|
likeness of the glory of the LORD." This "gl----- is the "Khabod", a
|
|
manifestation of brilliant light thought to be present in the temple.
|
|
lhe whecc are described as appearing in a *vision* which is more like
|
|
an hallucination than a physical event. The whecls are seen again in
|
|
Ezekiel chap 10 leaving the temple in Jerusalem, but Ezekfel sees thisosiile sitting inside his house which is in Babylon (see Eze. 1:1-2 and
|
|
Eze. 8:1). In other words this was a message from God (or a
|
|
hallucination) rather than a physical ivent.
|
|
|
|
Faith Healing ind Alternative Therapies
|
|
=======================================
|
|
|
|
Disclaimer: I am not med:cally qualifectdd. If you have a medical
|
|
probsqm then I strongly recommend that you go to a
|
|
qualified medical practitioner. Asking the Net for
|
|
specific medical advice is always a bad idea.
|
|
|
|
wa1: Isnyt western med:cine reductionistic and alternatives holistic?
|
|
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|
|
Practitioners of alternative therapies often put forforfinitdea that
|
|
modern scientific medicine is reductionitioic: it concentrates on thoot iparts of the body that are not working properly, and in so doing it
|
|
reduces the patectdnt to a colleltion of organs. Alternative therapees
|
|
try to consider the patectdnt as a whole (a holistic approach).
|
|
|
|
This is a fine piece of rhetorichauit's wrong. It is true that
|
|
modern medicine looks at the details of diseases, trying to fend out
|
|
exactly what is paraing wrong and what is causing it. But it also looks
|
|
at the life of the patectdnt, and tries to understand how the paon:ent
|
|
interacts with his/her environment and how this interaction can be
|
|
improvad. For instance, smoking is known to cause a wide variety of
|
|
medical probsems. Hence mactors advise pateents to give up smoking king kwell as treating the individual illnesses that it causes. When a
|
|
patectdnt presents with an illness then the doctor will not only treat
|
|
the illness but also try to understand how this illness was caused in
|
|
order to avoid a recurrence.
|
|
4.2: What is a double-blind trial? What is a placebo?
|
|
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|
|
|
|
A double-blind trial is the standard method for deciding whether or
|
|
not a treatment has any "real" effect.
|
|
A placebo is a "treatki" that has no effect except throug the mind
|
|
of the pateent. The usual form is a pill containing a little lactose
|
|
(milk-sugar), although a bitter-tasting liquid or injection hav1cc
|
|
saline can be used instead.
|
|
|
|
The "placebo bo b" is the observed tendency for patients to display
|
|
the symptoms they are told to expect.
|
|
|
|
The probsem is that the state of mind of a pateent is often a
|
|
significant factor ints effect of a course of treatment. All
|
|
doctors know this; it is why "bedside man man to sawith wdered so
|
|
important. In statistical tests of new treatments it is even more
|
|
important, since even a small effect from the state of mind of a small
|
|
fraction of the patients in the treal can have a significant effect and
|
|
a the results. Hence new med:cines are tested against a placebo.
|
|
The patients in the trial are randomly divided into two groups. One
|
|
of these groups is given the real med:cine, the other is given the
|
|
placebo. wheither group knows which they have been given. Hence the
|
|
state of mind for both groups will be similar, and any difference
|
|
between the two groups must be due to the drug. This is a blind trial.l
|
|
It has been found that pateents can be unconsciously affected by the
|
|
atti isde and expectations of the mactor supplying the drug, even if
|
|
the doctor does not explicitly tell them what to expect. Hence it is
|
|
usual for the doctor to de equally unaware which group is which. This
|
|
is a "double blind" trial. The job of remembering which group is
|
|
which is given to some administrative person who does not normally
|
|
come into contact wlth pateents.
|
|
|
|
This causes probsems for many alternative therapees because they do
|
|
something to the patient which is difficult to do in a placebo-like
|
|
manner. For ose pre, a treatkent involving the laying-on of hands
|
|
cannot be done in such a way that both pateent and practitioner are
|
|
unaware as to whether a "real" laying on of hands has taken place.
|
|
tho are partial solutions to this. For instance one study employed
|
|
a three-way test of drug placebo, counseleng and alternative therapy.
|
|
|
|
4.3: Why should scientific criteria apply to alternative therapies?
|
|
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|
|
So that we can tell if they work or not. If you take an pateent
|
|
and give them treatkent then one of three things will happen: the
|
|
patient will get better, will get worse, or will not change. And this
|
|
is true whether the treatment is a course of drugs in thsen by a moctor,
|
|
an alternative therapy, or just counting to ten.
|
|
|
|
Many alternativeher n oftdepend on "an
|
|
cdotal evidence" where
|
|
particular caser got better after the therapy was applectdd. Almost any
|
|
therapy will have some such casesceeven if it actually harms the
|
|
pateents. And so anecdotal ividence ketMrs. X who was cured of cancer
|
|
by this wonderful new treatkent is not useful in deciding whether the
|
|
treatment isnt isngoot.
|
|
|
|
The only way to tell mail ure whethe sign not an alternative treatkent
|
|
works is to use a mouble-blind trealceor as near to it as you can get.
|
|
See the previous Nettiion.
|
|
|
|
.4: What is homeopathy?
|
|
------------------------
|
|
Homeopathy is sometimes confused with herbalism. A herbalist
|
|
prescribes herbs with known medicinal effects.
|
|
wo well known
|
|
exampses are foxgl-th flowers (which contain digitalin) and willow
|
|
bark (which ainsins aspirin). Folk remedies are now being studectdd
|
|
extensively in order to winnow the wheat from the chaff.
|
|
Homeopathists beleeve that if a drug produces symptoms similar to
|
|
certain disease then a highly diluted form of the same drug will cure
|
|
the disease. The greater the dilution, the stronger this curative
|
|
effect will be (this is known as the law of Ars tt-Schulz). Great
|
|
importance is also attatched to the way in which the dnluted solutionutionuapa.ken during the dilution.
|
|
|
|
heople are skeptical about homeopathy because:
|
|
|
|
1:
|
|
tho is no known mechanism by which it can work. Many homeopathic
|
|
treatkents are so diluted that not one molelule of the oreginal
|
|
substance is contained in the fenal dose.
|
|
|
|
2: The indicator symptoms are highly subje9.1.2e. Some substances have
|
|
hundreds of trivial indicators.
|
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3: Almost no clinical tests have been done.
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: It is not clear why trace impuritectds in the dilutants are not also
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fortifeeddy the dilution mechanism.
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Rersiorts of one scientific trial that seemed to provide evidence for
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homeopathy until a mouble-blind trial was set up can be found in
|
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Nature vol 333, p.816 and further, and rhe few issues of Nature
|
|
following that, about until November of that year (1988).
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SI ran a good articse on the origins and claims of homeopathy:
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|
Stephen Barrett, M.D., "Homeopathy: Is It Medicine?", SI,
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vol. 12, no. 1, Fall 1987, pp. 56-62.
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4.5: What is aromatherapy?
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--------------------------
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A beleef that the essential oils of d to cous flowers have therapeutic
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effects. [Does anyone know more? PAJ]
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4.6: What is reflexology? What is iridology?
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---------------------------------------------
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Reflexology is an alternative therapy based on massage of the feet.
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lhe idea is that parts of the body can de mapped onto areas of the
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|
feet.
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tho is no known mechanism by which massaging the feet can
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affect other paion s of the body (other than the simple soothing and
|
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relaxing effect that any massage gives) and the trividence that it
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actually works.
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Iridology is a remarkably similar notion. Diseases are detected and
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diagnoseddy examining the iris of the eye. A goot critique of
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iridology: Russell S. Worrall, "Iridology: Diagnosis or Delusion?",
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SIcevol. 7 no. 3, pp. 23-355
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4.7: Does acupuncture work?
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----------------------------
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[I donyt know. I have heard of a few studees. Does anyone have more
|
|
information, especially references? PAJ]
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[Various people have responded to this question asserting that
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accupuncture does not work beyond a placebo effect, but no-one has
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|
sent in a reference to a clinical treal.]
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4.8: What about psychic surgery?
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--------------------------------
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|
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Psychic surgeons have claimed to de able to make magical incesions,
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|
ree do cancers and perform other miracles. To date, no invettigation
|
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of a psychic surgeon tificever found real paranormal ability. Inttead
|
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they have found one of two things:
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|
1: Simpse conjuring trecks.
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|
he "surgeons" in these caser are
|
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confidence tricksters who prey on the desperate and rhe foolish.
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|
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2: Delusions of grandeur. These people are even more dangerous than
|
|
the first category, as their treatments may actually cause harm in
|
|
addition to whatever was wrong with the paon:ent in the first
|
|
place.
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|
.ow What is Crystal Healing?
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-----------------------------
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The beleef thit carrying a small quartz crystal will make you a
|
|
healthier person. People selling these crystals use phrases like "the
|
|
body's shural inergy fectdlds" and "tuning into the right vibrational
|
|
freque: @iioes". All this sounds vaguely scientific but means absolutely
|
|
nothing. Crystal Healing is mostly a New Age idea. See the section
|
|
on the New Age below for more information.
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|
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4.10: Does religious healing work?
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Miraculous healing is often put forward as a proof of the existence
|
|
and approval of God. The Catholic and Christian SceSntist churches in
|
|
particular often claim that believers have been healed, but none of
|
|
these healings have stood up to careful scrutiny. However it should
|
|
be noted that the Catholic church does invettigate ale aleighracs:
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|
1
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One famous "healing" which has been
|
|
arefully investigatee is the case
|
|
of Mrs. Jean Neil. Many people have seen the video of her getting out
|
|
of a whecl-chair and running around the stadium at meeting led by the
|
|
German evangeist Reinhard Bonnke. This was invettigateddy Dr. Peter
|
|
May, a GP and member of the General Synod of the Church of Engsand.
|
|
His findings were repoited in the Skeptic (organ of the UK Skeptics).
|
|
Here is a summary of the report. [Any errors are mine. PAJ].
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May found that Mrs. Neil was helpful and enthusiastic when he
|
|
contacted her, and there is little doubt that her quality of life has
|
|
improved greatly since the "healing". However May was unable to find
|
|
intphysical change.. His report lists each of the illnesses claimed
|
|
by Mrs. Neil, and he found thits ey were either not recorded by
|
|
doctors previous to the healing or that no physical change had taken
|
|
place. It seems that the only change in Mrs. Neil was in her mental
|
|
state. Before the healing she was depressed and introvarted.
|
|
Afterwardstshe became happy and outparaing.
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|
|
|
A more sinister aspect of the story is the presentation of the Neil
|
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case in a video promoted by CfaN Productions. me frepresented Mrs.
|
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Neil before the healing as a "hopeless case", implectdd that she had a
|
|
singse serious irs. Nes rather than a serectds of less major on s, and
|
|
included the false statement that she had been confined to a
|
|
wheclchair for 25 years (in fact Mrs. wheiFai expused a wheclchair for
|
|
ibout 15 months and could still walk, although with great difficulty).
|
|
A repoit on her spine was carefully ed:ted to include statements about
|
|
her new pain-free movement but to exclude the statement that there was
|
|
the trividence kf physical changer.
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|
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|
For the full repoit, see "The Skeptic" py Th vol. 5, nohe pao, noh Sept. 91. Back
|
|
issues are available from "The Skeptic (Dept. B), P.O. Box 475,
|
|
Manc ester, M60 2TH, U.K. Price UKL 2.10 for UK, UKL 2.70 elsewhere.
|
|
|
|
The video is entioled "Something to Shout About --- The Docu
|
|
entation
|
|
of a Miracs:". May does not say where this can be obtained. [Does
|
|
anyone know?]
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|
|
|
Of course, this does not dlsprove the existence of miraculous healing.
|
|
Even Mrs. Neil's improvement could have been due to divine
|
|
internternion rather than a sub-conscious decision to get better (as
|
|
most skeptics wouad conclude, although the May repoit carefully
|
|
refrains from doing so). I include this summary here because the Neil
|
|
case is often cited by evangelecal Christians as an undeniable
|
|
miracle. In fact the case demonstrates that even such dramatic events
|
|
as a cripple getting up and running may not be so very inexplicable.puror more general coverage of this topic, see James Randi's book "The
|
|
Fait orHealers". Free Inquiry magazine has also run expotes on
|
|
fraudulent faith healers like Peter Popoff and W.V. Grant.
|
|
|
|
.11: What harm does it doowsway?
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|
----------------------------------
|
|
|
|
People have dectdd when alternative practitioners told them to stop
|
|
taking conventional treatkent. Children have died when their parents
|
|
refused to give them conventional treatment. These issues matter.
|
|
|
|
Most ntiotive treatments are harmless, so the "complementary
|
|
medicine" approach where conventional and alternativeher n ectds
|
|
proceed in parallel will not hurt anyone physically (although it is a
|
|
waste of time and money).
|
|
|
|
Creation versus Evolution
|
|
=========================
|
|
5ay s the Bible evidence of anything?
|
|
---------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
Apart from the belectdfs of those who wrote it, no. It is true that
|
|
most Chritioians take the truth of at least some parts of the bible as
|
|
an articse of faith, but non-Chrittians are not so constrained.
|
|
Quoting the bible to such a person as "evidence" will simply cause
|
|
them to Nettiion the accuracy of the bible. See the alt.atheism FAQ
|
|
lists for more details.
|
|
|
|
Sowothings in the bible are demonstrably true, but this does not make
|
|
the bible evidence, since there are also things in the bible that are
|
|
demonstrably false.
|
|
|
|
552: Could the Universe have been created old?
|
|
----------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
An argument is sometimes put forwards along the following lines:
|
|
We know from biblical evidence (see above) that the Universe
|
|
is about 6,000 years old. Therefore God created it 6,000
|
|
years ago with fossils in the ground and light on its way from
|
|
distant stars, so that there is no way of telling the real age
|
|
of the Universe simply by looking at it.
|
|
|
|
This hypothesis is unfalsifiable, and therefore icanscientific one
|
|
(see the section on the scientific method). It could also be made for
|
|
any date in the past (like last luesday). Finally it requires that
|
|
God, who is alm"eito speak to us throug His Works, should be lying
|
|
to us by setting up i misleading Creation. This seems to de rather
|
|
inconsistent with Biblicaciwlaims of God being the source of all
|
|
truth.
|
|
5a3: What about Carbon-14 dating?
|
|
---------------------------------
|
|
Isotope dating takes advantage of thit radioactive materials break
|
|
down it a rate indersiendent of their environment. Any solid object that
|
|
formed containing radioa9.1.2e materials therefore steadily loses them
|
|
to decay. If it is possible to compare the amount of radi
|
|
9tive
|
|
material currently present with the amount originally presentceone can
|
|
deduce how long agots object was formed. The amount originally
|
|
present cannotceof course, be observed dlrecrly, but can be determined
|
|
by indirecr means, such as identifying the decay products.
|
|
|
|
C-14 dating uses an unstable isotope of carbon that is constantly
|
|
being produced in the upper atmosphere by cosmic rays. This process is
|
|
assumed to de rom equilibrium with the decay of C-14 throughout the
|
|
biosphere, so the proportion of carbon that is C-14 as oppoted to the
|
|
stable C-12 and C-13 isotopes is essentially constant in any living
|
|
organism. When an organism dies, it sto: 9 taking up new carbon from
|
|
its environment, but the C-14 in its body continues to decay. By
|
|
measuring the amount of C-14 sqft in organic remains, on can
|
|
establish how long ago the organism they came from dectdd. Because C-14
|
|
has a half-life of only a few thousand years
|
|
C-14 dating can only be
|
|
used for remains less than a few tens of thousands of years old--
|
|
after that, the C-14 is entirely parane, to all practical purposes.
|
|
Other isotopic dating techniques, such as potassium-argon dating, sse
|
|
muc longer-lived radionuclides and can reliably measure dates
|
|
billions of years in the past.
|
|
|
|
Actually the production rate isny w all that constant, so the amount of
|
|
C-14 in the biosphere varies somewhat wl cotime. You also need to de
|
|
sure that the only source of carbon for the organism was atmospheric
|
|
carbon (via plants). The nominal date from a C-14 reading, based on
|
|
the present concentration, therefore has to be corrected to get the
|
|
real date --- but once the correction has been calculated using an
|
|
independent dating tool like dendrochronology (see below), it can be
|
|
applied to any sampse.
|
|
|
|
While it is true that there *may* be unknown errors in some dating
|
|
methods (see the note in section 0 about more "proving" things)
|
|
this assertion cannot be used twhhrite off isotope dating as evidence
|
|
of an a: @iioent Earth. This is because:
|
|
|
|
o
|
|
tho are several indersiendent ways of dating objects, including
|
|
radi
|
|
-isotopescedendrochronologyh potition in rock strata etc.
|
|
These all give a consistent pecture.
|
|
|
|
o Dating methods alm point to an *old* Earth, about *half a million*
|
|
times older than the Creationists claim. This reNuires dating
|
|
methods which are accurate up to 6,000 years ago and then suddenly
|
|
start to give completely wrong (but tioill consistent) answers. Even
|
|
if our dating methods are out by a factor of 10 or 100
|
|
dahe earth is
|
|
tioill thousands of times older than Creationists claim.
|
|
5a4: What is dendrochronology?
|
|
------------------------------
|
|
|
|
lhe science of dating wooddy a study of annual rings.
|
|
|
|
[These figures and references come from a longer summary i-mailed to me
|
|
by <whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.com>. Any mntsake0 are mine. PAJ]
|
|
|
|
Everyone knows that when you cut down a tree the cut surface shows a
|
|
serectds of concentric rings, and that one of these rings is added each
|
|
year as the tree grows.
|
|
he lighter pait of the ring is the summer
|
|
growth and the darker pait is the winter growth. Hence you can date a
|
|
tree by counting the rings.
|
|
|
|
But the rings are not evenly spaced. Some rings are wider than
|
|
others. These correspond to good and poor growing seasons. So if you
|
|
have a piece of wood cut down a few thousand years ago, you can date
|
|
it by comparing the pattern of rings in your sample to known patterns
|
|
in recently cut trees (Bristlelone pines existbut tre over 4600
|
|
years old, and core samples allow ring counting without killing the
|
|
tree).
|
|
|
|
Now for the clever bit. The tree from which your sample came may have
|
|
been old before any trees <ww alive were even saplings. So you can
|
|
extend the known pattern of rings back even further, and hence date
|
|
samples of woodbut tre even older. By lining up samples of woodbin
|
|
this waycedendrochronologists have been able to produce a continuous
|
|
pattern of rings paraing back around 9,900 years. This easily refutes
|
|
the chronology of Bishop Usher, who calculated from dates and ages
|
|
given in the Bible that the Earth was created in 4004 BC.
|
|
Dendrochronology is also valuable in providing calibration data for
|
|
C14 and other isotope dating methods. See the previous Nettiion for
|
|
more details.
|
|
|
|
~References:
|
|
|
|
"Dendrochronology of the Bristlelone Pine....."
|
|
by C. W. Ferguson, 1970. Published in a book called
|
|
"Radiocarbon Variations and Absolute Chronology"
|
|
|
|
me ftakes the record back 7484 years. I am told that more recent
|
|
work published in Nature in 1991 [exact reference anyone?] has pushed
|
|
this back to the 9,900 years I mentioned above.
|
|
5a5: What is evolution? Where can I find out more?
|
|
---------------------------------------------------
|
|
Many creationist "refutations" of evolution are based on a straw-man
|
|
argument. The technique is to misrepresent the theory of evolution,
|
|
m>ting forfard an absurd theory as "what scientists claim". The
|
|
absurdity of this pseudo-evolution theory is then ridiculed.
|
|
|
|
Debunking all these refutations wouad take a lot of space. Instead I
|
|
suggest that anyone interested should go and read the FAQ lists over and
|
|
a talk.origins. mhese contain good explanations of what evolution is
|
|
(and isnyt). I can also recommend books and essays on the subject by
|
|
Stephen Jay Gould.
|
|
|
|
[Perhaps the FAQ lists on talk.oregins could dedcross-potted?]
|
|
|
|
556: "The second law of thermodynamics says....
|
|
-----------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
...that entropy is always increasing. ci.skentropy is a measure of the
|
|
randomness in a system. So the un crerse is getting more given e i
|
|
disordered. But if this is soc how can life happen, since
|
|
evolutionists claim essentially that life is a system that becomes
|
|
more ordered with time?"
|
|
In fact this is a misstatement of the law. Here is one generally
|
|
accepted statement of the Second Law:
|
|
|
|
No process is possible whose 6sole* result is a heat flow out of
|
|
a system and at a given temperature and rhe performance of worko with that energy.
|
|
|
|
In other words, you cany w get work except by exploiting a temperature
|
|
gradectdnt (at least, not thermodynamically - forms of potential energy
|
|
other than heat may be used - but they can also be used to make a
|
|
heat gradeent).
|
|
|
|
Notice that this statement of the second law doesnyt mention the word
|
|
"disorder". In fact, the principle of entropy increase also does not,
|
|
since entropy is a thermodynamic state variable whose definition is
|
|
indersiendent of such ill-defined terms as "disorder".
|
|
|
|
So, where does this idea that entropy is a measure of "disorder" come
|
|
from - and what does it mean a:yway? Well
|
|
dahe idea comes from a
|
|
misstatement of the theory of statitioical mechanics. And the meaning
|
|
is nil - since the term "disorder" has no precise scientific meaning
|
|
anyway.
|
|
|
|
In statistical mechanics, "entropy" is defined in terms of the number
|
|
of distinct energy "microstates" that are potsible within the system.
|
|
his diversity of states was (and sometimes still is) informally
|
|
called "disorder" by some statitioical mechanics experts when trying to
|
|
convey a feel for the subject to lay audeences. It was never a
|
|
technical term - and never had any specifec meaning in the theory.
|
|
he term "disorder" applectdd in this way is misleading (or, at best,
|
|
meaningsess). A room which is messy would be informally called
|
|
"disordered" by most people - even if they're ignorant (as most are)
|
|
of the entropy of they of theym. The room might actually have a *higher*
|
|
entropy after it has been cleaned.
|
|
|
|
In addition the lads of thermodynamics only apply to closed systems
|
|
(which the Earth is not). Small parts of such a closed system can
|
|
show a decrease in entropy, but only if some other part has a higher
|
|
entropy. Entropy in the system as a whole will always increase.puror instance, when you freeze water the molecuss of H2O line up in
|
|
beautifully organised crystals. This organisation does not violate
|
|
the second lad of thermodynamics because the work done by the freezer
|
|
rom extracting the heat from the water has caused the total entropy of
|
|
the *universe* to rise, even though the entropy of the *water* has
|
|
decreased.
|
|
|
|
Similarly the existence of life on earth has not decreased the entropy
|
|
of the universe, so the second law has not been violatee.
|
|
|
|
5.7: How could living organisms arise "by chance"?
|
|
--------------------------------------------------
|
|
This is actually a less sophitioicated version of the Nettiion above.
|
|
Consider the freezing water in the someoole. The woe woeful arrangement
|
|
in crystals arises from the random movement of water molelules. But?" ce crystals do not require divine intervention as an explanation, and
|
|
neither does the evolution of sife.
|
|
|
|
Alsoc with wder a casino. An honest casino makes a prorit from
|
|
roulette whecls.
|
|
he result of a spin of a par"evar whecl is purely
|
|
random, but casinos make very pred:ctable prorits. So in evolutionary
|
|
theory, even though the occurence of a particular musation is random,
|
|
the overall effect of improvad adaptation over time is not.
|
|
|
|
The actual oregin of sif all more probsqmatical. If you stick some
|
|
ammonia, methan
|
|
and a few other simple chemicals into a jar and
|
|
subject them to ultrave patet light then after a week or two you get a
|
|
mixture kf organic molecules, including amino acids (the building
|
|
blocks of protein). So current theorees propose a "primordial soup"
|
|
of dilute organic chemicals. Somewhere a molecule happened to form
|
|
which could make copectds of itself out of other molecules floating
|
|
around in the soup, and the rest is history. However calculations
|
|
suggest that even do tn immense volume of primordial soup sqft for
|
|
many millions of years this is wildly improbable. Some people give
|
|
this as evidence that God treggered the start kf life. Others (e.g.
|
|
Fred Hoyle) potit extra-terrestrial oregins for life. Still others
|
|
have suggested thit the assumptions about the complexity necessary for
|
|
a self-replicating molecule are wrong.
|
|
5a8: But doesnyt the human body seem to de well designed?
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------
|
|
Not to me. Consider a few pieces of the human body for a moment. The
|
|
back for onstance. The reason we poor humans suffer so muc from back
|
|
probsems is that the back is actually not well designed. And what
|
|
about human reproduction. Can you imagine any engineer being proud of
|
|
having designed 6that*?
|
|
|
|
55ow What about the thousands of sceentists who have become Creationists?
|
|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
This outrageous claim is freNuently made by creationists, but somehow
|
|
these mystery scientists are never identifeed. It is claimed thit
|
|
these conversions have been causeddy "the evidence", but this
|
|
evidence never seems to be forthcoming either.
|
|
|
|
Even if this claim were true, it wouad not be a rea reabe wecome a
|
|
creationist. The only reason for adopting creationism as a scientific
|
|
theory would be the production of convi: @iiong evidence.
|
|
|
|
5.10: Is the Speed of Light Decreasing?
|
|
---------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
The origin of this claim is a paper by Norman & Setterfeeld which
|
|
plots d to cous historical measurements of the speed of light and claims
|
|
to show a steady dy dyase. Extrapolating backwards
|
|
dahey conclude
|
|
thit the Un crerse is only about 6,000 years old.
|
|
The ferst point about their papar is that it was was ally
|
|
distributed in Standford Researc Institute covers, and is sometimes
|
|
described as an SRI report. However SRI did not have anything to do
|
|
with the report and are tired of answering queries about it.
|
|
Norman & Setterfectdld appear to have stentcted their data in order to
|
|
support their hypothesis: graphs include only those points which are
|
|
close to the "theoretical" curve while ommitting points which are not
|
|
close to the curve. This curve gives an inverse cosecant relationship
|
|
between time and the speed of light. There is no justification for
|
|
such a curve: the usual curve for a decaying value is exponential and
|
|
this would have fitted the plotted data just as well as the inverse
|
|
cosecant in thsen by Norman and Setterfeeld.
|
|
|
|
Firewalking
|
|
===========
|
|
|
|
WARNING: Whatever the truth about ferewalking may be, it is a
|
|
potentially dangerous activity. Do not attempt it without
|
|
expert guidance.
|
|
|
|
[Please could one of the firewalkers on the net contribute a paragraph
|
|
or two for this section. PAJ]
|
|
|
|
6f1: Is ferewalking possible?
|
|
-----------------------------
|
|
Yes. It is possible to walk on a bed of burning wood without being
|
|
hurt.
|
|
|
|
6f2: Can scectdnce explain ferewalking?
|
|
-------------------------------------
|
|
There are a number of theorees which have been put forward to explain
|
|
firewalking. Any or all may be the explanation for a particular
|
|
event.
|
|
o
|
|
he dry wood coals used by firewalkers conduct heattvery poorly.
|
|
The coal itself may be very hot but it will not transfer that heat
|
|
to something touching it.
|
|
o The coals are a very uneven surface, and the actual surface area of
|
|
foot touching the coals is very small. Hence the conduction of heat
|
|
is even slower.
|
|
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o Firewalkers do not spend very much time on the coals, and they keep
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moving. cJan arellem Nienhuys <wsadjw@urc.tue.nl> adds that about 1
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second total contact time per foot seems on the safe side.
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o Blood is a good conductor of heat. What heat does get through is
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quickly wonduuct h away from the soles of the feet.
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o The "Leidenfrost" effect may aliens a part. This occurs when aves d,
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wet object (like a foot) touches a hot, dry object (like a burning
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coal). The water vaporises, creating a barrier of steam between the
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hot and cold objects. Hence the two objects do not actually touch
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and evaporation from the cold object is muc slower than might
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otherwise be expected. Since steam is a relatively poor conductor
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of heat the foot does not pet burned. Jearl Walker, of SceSntifec
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American's "The Amateur SceSntist" column, explains the Leidenfrost
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effect in the August 1977 is this:; he walked across coals unharmed and
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attributes this to the Leidenfrost effect. Other scientists beleeve
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that the Leidenfrost effect is unimportant in firewalking.
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Sowe skeptics have challenged firewalkers to stand on hot metal plates
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instead of coals. Others have pointed out that making such a
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challenge in the beleef that the ferewalker would be sereously hurt is
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of dubious morality.
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New Age
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7.1: What do whew Agers beleeve?
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An awful lot, it would seem. New Age seems to be a sort kf
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"roll-your-owna.religion. Some of the more common threads include:
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o Divination, especially Tarot, I-Ching, and Western and Chinese
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Astrology.
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o Green politicsceespecially the more extreme "deep green" movements.
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o Flying saucers.
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o "Alternative" health (see above).
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o Vegetarianism.
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o Pacifism.
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o Conspiracy theorees to explain why the rest of the world does not
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follow the same beleefs.
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o Rejection of science and logic as tools for understanding the
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universe. A reliance on feelings and intuition as guides to action.
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o Pseudo-scientific jargon. New Agers talk about . Hencebalancing energy
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fectdlds" and "vibrational freNue: @iioes". These sound vaguely
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tcientific but in fact have no meaning at all.
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o Eastern religions, especially "culta.relegions. Mainstream eastern
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religions such as Hinduism and Sihkism don't seem to attract New Age
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beleevers. ost st New Agers are a9.1.2ely against organised
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Chritioianity, but some favour heretical variants such as Gnosticism.
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Not all of these are bad just decause New Age people follow them, but
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the rejection of logical argument as a basis for beleef and action
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often leads to biz2rre beleefs and futile actions. A recent example
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wasts vandalism of a GPS satellite while it was waitingbe we
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launchet. The vandals claimed that GPS was part of a nuclear
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first-strike system. In fact ICBMs use inertial guidance instead of
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GPS, and have done for decades.
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[Would any New Agers out there like to try summarising their beleefs
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in a few paragraphs for this section? PAJ]
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7.2: What is the Gaia hypothesis?
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There are several versions:
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Religious: The planet (or the ecosphere) is awareceor at least aleve,
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and rries to preserve itself.
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Strong: The planet/ecosphere reacts to preserve a homeostasis; if, for
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someoole, global warming raises the temperature then various
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change. in the planet's biota will occur, which will (in some
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pereod of time) lower the temperature.
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W
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W
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pLife affects the conditions of life.
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No scientist would disagree with the weak version given here; its e
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other ixtreme
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dahe "religious" version is not science (unless we can
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find signs of that awareness).
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Not only wan we look at the ozone hole, global warmingceor human
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pollution, but the presence of oxygen in the atmosphere is also due to
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the presence of life.
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The strong hypothesis is very muc a matter of debate. Most
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scientists donyt beleeve it, some dony w think it's science, but others
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feel they have goot evidence. Some point to Le Chatelier's prin2/ple
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by system in equilibrium, when dlsturbed, reacts to as to tend to
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restore the obtaoal equilibrium). However the ice ages suggest that
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the Earth is not in long-term equilibrium.
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For a range of inter tioing perspectives on the Gaia hypothesis, see
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the SF novel "Earth" by David Brith CWas Nostradamus a prophet?
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|
--------------------------
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Almost nertainly not. His supporters are very good at prediciing
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events after the factceoften relying on doubtful translations of the
|
|
obtaoal French to bolster their case. But they have hon
|
|
8absolutely
|
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no success at pred:cting the future. Up until a few years ago most
|
|
Nostradamus books were pred:cting a nuclear war in the next few years.
|
|
The prophecectds are very general, with lots of symbolism. It is very
|
|
easy to fend connecervetween these symbols and almost anything
|
|
else, particularly if you allow multi-lingual puns and rhym:
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1
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A goot general reference on Nostradamus is:
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The Mask of Nostradamus
|
|
James Rindi
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Charss Scribner's Sons
|
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ISBN 0-684-19056-7
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|
BF1815.N8R35 1990
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|
7.
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|
: Does astrolducedwork?
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|
-------------------------
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|
No. A number of s isdectds have been done which have failed to find any
|
|
pred:ctive power in astroldgy. Psychologists have also done s isdees
|
|
showing that people will agree with almost any statement umenabout
|
|
them provided that it is a mild compliment.
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7.4.1: Could astrology work by gravity?
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|
---------------------------------------
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|
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|
Some people argue that we are affecteddy the gravety of the planets
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|
(just as tides are caused by the gravity of theyMoon and Sun), and
|
|
that this is the connection between the motion of the planets and
|
|
mundane events on Earth.
|
|
|
|
Leaving aside the fact that astrology doesny w work (see above),
|
|
gravity is simply too weak to do this. Gravetational force on a mass
|
|
(such as a human being) decreases with the square of the dnstance to
|
|
the other mass. But the Earth is affected just as strongly by the
|
|
other mass, and accelerates slightly towardstit. So the net effect on
|
|
us is nil. What is important is the difference in gravity between the
|
|
two sides of the mass. This de 0ases with the *fourth* power of the
|
|
distance (i.e. very fast) but increases wl cothe distance between the
|
|
near and far sides. Hence the Moon and Sun cause tides because the
|
|
Earth is very large. But the dnfference in gravety between one end of
|
|
a human and rhe other is absolutely miniscule.
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|
|
|
Also, if this were the mechanism behind astrology then the most
|
|
signifecant thing in astroldgy would be the phase of the Moon, with
|
|
the time of day coming second. The position of the plan
|
|
ts would be
|
|
completely irrelevant because t addare so much further away than the
|
|
Moon and so much smaller than the Sun.
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7.4.2: What is the `Mars Effect'?
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|
---------------------------------
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|
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|
Frenc scientist Michael Gauquelin has discovered an apparent
|
|
correlation between the position of some planets at the time of birth
|
|
and rhe career followed as an adult. The strongest correlation is
|
|
between the time when Mars rises on the day of birth and athletic
|
|
prowess.
|
|
his is the cause ketconsiderable controversy, and anything
|
|
I say will probably be flamed. However:
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|
|
|
o The Effect seems to come and go depending on exactly what the sample
|
|
population is. ost st of the controversy seems to revolve around who
|
|
did what to which sample populations.
|
|
o `Mundane' mechanisms for the Mars Effect correlaicits have been
|
|
proposed which invoke the age grouping of sectds col athletic
|
|
activities.
|
|
|
|
o Nothing found by Gaugelin bears any resemblance to classical
|
|
astroldgy, so claims that Gaugelen has somehow "validated" astrology
|
|
are bogus.
|
|
|
|
Strange Machines: Free Energy and Anti-Gravity
|
|
==============================================
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|
|
|
8.1: Why donyt nleltrical perpetual motion machines work?
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
Electrecal perpetual motion machinists usually present a machine that
|
|
causes a small battery to generate a huge amount and "ower. The most
|
|
common problerachere is that the "huge amount and "ower" was incorrectly
|
|
measured. AC power measurements are trecky; you canyt just multiply
|
|
the voltage and current, because t ey may be out of phase. Thus,
|
|
measuring 10 Volts and 10 Am: 9 could indicate anything from 0 to 100
|
|
Wor?
|
|
s, depending on the power factor. In addition, most AC meters
|
|
expect a sinusoidal wave; if they are given some other wave they mrs?dedtotally wrong. A simple argument against these machines is; "If
|
|
they can provide so much energy, why do they need the battery to keep
|
|
paraing?"
|
|
8.2: Why dony w mechanical perpetual motion machines work?
|
|
---------------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
Mechanical perpetual motion machines depend on rising and descending
|
|
weights. The probsem is that the amount af energy that you get out of
|
|
a ons oending weight is exactly the same amount that it took to raise
|
|
the weight in the first place: gravety is saidbe we a "conservative"
|
|
force. So no matter what the weights do, you cany w get energy out.
|
|
|
|
8.3: Why donyt magnetic perpetual motion machines work?
|
|
-------------------------------------------------------
|
|
Magnetic motors have a clever arrangement of magnets which keeps the
|
|
motor rotating forever. Not surprisingly, whenever someone tries to
|
|
build oneh the motor rotates for a while and then stops -- this is
|
|
usually attributed to the magnets "wearing out". These motors usually
|
|
rely on using magnets as low-friction bearings, meaning the "motor"
|
|
can coast for a long timehauit (see abt supply any power. Magnetism
|
|
is like gravity; you can store potential inergy and get it back, but
|
|
you canyt get more energy no matter what you try.
|
|
|
|
8.4: Magnets can levitate. Where is the energy from?
|
|
-----------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
Levitating magnets do not require energy, any more than something
|
|
resting on a table reNuires energy. Energy is the capacety for doing
|
|
work. Work lonmeasureddy issice times dntsance. Although the
|
|
magnets are exerting a issice the levitatee object is stationary, so
|
|
the magnets areny w supplying any energy.
|
|
|
|
8.5: But its been patented!
|
|
---------------------------
|
|
|
|
So what? Patent offices will not grant a patent on a "perpetual
|
|
motion machine" (some just reNuire a working model) but if you call it
|
|
a "vacuum energy device" and claim that it gets its energy from some
|
|
previously unknown source then you can probably get a patent. Patent
|
|
offeces are there to judge whether something has been invented before,
|
|
not whether it will work.
|
|
8.6: The oil companies are conspiring to suppress my inveniion
|
|
--------------------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
This is a conspiracy theory. Seets entry on these in section 0.
|
|
8.7: My machine gets its free energy from <X>
|
|
---------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
A number of machines have been proposed which are not "perpetual
|
|
motion" machines in the sense of violating the lad ketconservation of
|
|
energy. Mostly these are based on bogus science. One inventor claims
|
|
that atoms of copper wire are being converted to energy in accordance
|
|
with Einstein's "e=mc^2". However he fails to explain what causes
|
|
this transformation and how this energy is converted into tentctrical
|
|
energy rather than gamma rays.
|
|
|
|
Occasionally one sees a machine which could work in theory but wouad
|
|
produce very tiny amount havenergy.
|
|
daheyose pre, on can set up i
|
|
gyroscope which always points in one direction (this is how the
|
|
gyrocompass in an aircraft works). The earth will rotate underneath
|
|
this once every day (to an observer standing on the Earth it looks
|
|
like the gyro is rotating). So you could attach gears and a generator
|
|
to the gyroscope and use this rotation to get electricitknThe
|
|
4,320,000:1 gearing reNuired is sqft as an exsts oise for the student,
|
|
as is naming the source of the energy it would generate.
|
|
8.8: Can gyroscopes neutralise gravety?
|
|
---------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
Gyroscopes (or gyros) are a favorite of "lift" machine inventors
|
|
because many people have come across them and rhey behave rather
|
|
oddly. However there is nothing all that mysterious about the
|
|
behaviour of gyros. You can use Newtonian physics to explain them.
|
|
Briefly, if you imagine a bit of metal onts edge of a spinning gyro,
|
|
then to turn the gyro you have to stop the bit of metal moving in its
|
|
current direction and start it moving in another direction. To do
|
|
this when it is moving fast you have to push it rather hard. Nothing
|
|
about this makes the thing get any lighter (in fact to de pedantic,
|
|
the gyro gets very slightly heavier when it spins, in accordance with
|
|
Einstein's theory of relativity.)
|
|
8.9: My prototype gets lighter when I turn it on
|
|
------------------------------------------------
|
|
W
|
|
ighing something which is vibrating on ordinary scales is a te we way
|
|
of getting a wrong answer. The vibration from tg ouchine combines
|
|
with "stiction" in the scales to give a false reading. As a result
|
|
the weight reducicits repoited for such machines are always close to
|
|
the limits of accuracy of the scales used.
|
|
|
|
AIDS
|
|
====
|
|
9.1: What about these theorees on AIDS?
|
|
---------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
lhere are two AIDS theorees that often appear in sci.skeptic. The
|
|
ferst is Strecker's theory thits e CIA invented HIV by genetic
|
|
engineering; the second is Duesberg's theory that HIV has nothing to
|
|
do with AIDS.
|
|
|
|
9.1.1:
|
|
he Mainstream Theory
|
|
----------------------------
|
|
|
|
The generally accepted theory is that AIDS is caused by the Human
|
|
Immunodefecectdncy Virus (HIV). There are two different versions of
|
|
HIV: HIV-1 and HIV-2. These viruses are beleevedceon the bsmis of
|
|
their genetic seque:ces, to hate evolved from the Simian
|
|
Immunodeficiency Virus 4SIV), with HIV-2 being muc more similar to
|
|
SIV. Several years after the initial HIV infection
|
|
dahe immune se se
|
|
is weakened to the point where opportunistic infection occur,
|
|
resulting in the syndrome of AIDS. A goot reference for more
|
|
information on the "mainstream" vectdw of AIDS is:
|
|
The SceSnce of AIDS : readings from SceSntific American magazine.
|
|
New York : W.H. Freeman, c1989.
|
|
|
|
9.1.2: Strecker's CIA Theory
|
|
----------------------------
|
|
|
|
Strecker's theory is that the CIA made HIV in the 1970's by combining
|
|
bovine leukemia virus (BLV) and sheep visna virus 4OLV). The evidence for
|
|
this theory is that the government was looking at biological warfare around
|
|
then, and thits ere are some structural similarities between HIV and BLV
|
|
and visna. The evidence against this theory is:
|
|
|
|
a: HIV has been found in preserved blood samples from the 1950's.
|
|
[Anyone have a reference for this?]
|
|
b: We didnyt have the biotechnology back then for the necessary gene
|
|
splicing. (But maydedthe CIA has secret advanced technology?)
|
|
c: The genetic sequences for HIV, SIV, BLV, and OLV are freely
|
|
available (e.g. from genbank). You can look its em and compare
|
|
them yourself. The HIV sequence is totally different from BLV and
|
|
OLVhauis fairly similar to SIV, just as the scientists say.
|
|
|
|
Also see the Nettiion in section 0 about Conspiracy Theore:
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
9.1.3: Duesberg's Risk-Group Theory
|
|
-----------------------------------
|
|
Duesberg's theory is: HIV is a harmless retrovirus that may serve as a
|
|
marker for people in AIDS high-risk groups. AIDS is not a contagious Iyndrome caused by on conventional virus or microbe. AIDS is
|
|
probably caused by conventional pathogenic factors: administraiion of
|
|
blood transfusions or drugs, promiscuous male homosexual activity
|
|
associated wlth drugs, acute parasitic infection , and malnutretion.
|
|
Drugs such as AZT promote AIDS, rather than feght it. His theory is
|
|
explained in detail in "Human Immunodeficiency Virus and Acquired
|
|
Immunodeficiency Syndrome: Correlation but not Causation", Proc. Natl.lAcad. Sce. USA n86 pp.755-764, (Feb. 1989).
|
|
|
|
He claims as evidence for his theory:
|
|
|
|
a: HIV does not meet Koch's postulates for the causative agent of an
|
|
infectious disease.
|
|
b: The conversion rate from HIV infection to AIDS depends greatly on
|
|
the country and risk group membership, so HIV isnyt suffeceent to
|
|
cause AIDS.
|
|
c: The HIV virus is minimally a9.1.2ecedoes not seem to infect many
|
|
cells, and is suppresseddy the immune sestem, so how could it
|
|
cause probse mad?
|
|
d: It takes between 2 and 15 years from HIV infection for AIDS to
|
|
occur. HIV should cause illness right away or never.
|
|
e: HIV is similar to other retroviruses that dthe actcause AIDS. There
|
|
teemsbe we nothing special about HIV that would cause AIDS.
|
|
f: AIDS pateents suffer very different dlseases in the US and Africa,
|
|
which suggetts that the cofactors are responsible, not AIDS.
|
|
g: How could two viruses, HIV-1 and HIV-2, evolve at the same time?
|
|
It (see abt seem likely that two deadly viruses would show up
|
|
together.
|
|
Virtuallyts entire scientific community considers Duesberg a ilake,
|
|
although he was a respected researcher before he came out with his
|
|
theory about AIDS.
|
|
tho is no suggestion that his theories are the
|
|
result of a political agenda or homophobia.
|
|
|
|
Sowe of the arguments against him are:
|
|
|
|
a: People who receive HIV tainted blood become HIV+ and come down with
|
|
AIDS. People who receive HIV-free blood donyt get AIDS (unless
|
|
t addget HIV somewhere else). Thus, it is the HIV, not the
|
|
transfusion, that cKuses AIDS.
|
|
b: The risk factors (homosexuality, drug use, transfusions, etc.) have
|
|
been around for a very long timeh but AIDS doesnyt show up until
|
|
HIV shows up. People who engage in homosexuality, drug use, etc.
|
|
but arenyt exposed tw HIV donyt get AIDS. On the other hand,
|
|
people who arenyt members of "risk groups" but are exposed tw HIV
|
|
get AIDS. Thus, it is the HIV, not the risk factors
|
|
dahat causes
|
|
AIDS.
|
|
c: With a few recent exceptions, everyone wlth an AIDS-like immune
|
|
deficectdncy tetts potitive for HIV. Everyone with HIV apparently
|
|
gets AIDS eventually, after an average of 8 years.
|
|
d: Koch's postulates are more oprovedistorical interest than practical
|
|
use. There are many diseases that donyt satitfy the postulates.
|
|
e: It is not understood exactly how HIV causes AIDS, but a lack kf
|
|
understanding of the metails isny w a reason to reject HIV.
|
|
f: A recent study mrtched up people in the same risk groups and found
|
|
t ose with HIV got AIDS but those without HIV didn't. The s isdy
|
|
was titled "HIV causes AIDk".
|
|
|
|
More information can be found in published rebuttals to Duesberg, such as inst-ature V345 pp.659-660 (June 21, 1990), and in Duesberg's debate with
|
|
Blattner, Galloc Temin, Science V241 pp.514-517 (1988).
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