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< Q-scan Primos #7 - 24 msgs >
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2/24: Assorted Q's
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Name: Doc Holiday #14
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Date: 7:57 pm Mon Jul 04, 1988
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Can anyone tell me how the WATCH
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monitor works on PRIME..
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Read:(1-24,2),? :
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3/24: Watch
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Name: Epsilon #12
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Date: 9:55 am Tue Jul 05, 1988
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Watch can be invoked on some
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machines by typing 'watch', or just
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'w'. If
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no particular User ID is specified,
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it will ask you for a User ID. At this
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point, you enter a User ID, ? for a
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list, or 999 to exit the program.
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The link is one way, so you can't
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type things for the person you are
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watching. It's fun to watch someone
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watching you, watching them, watching
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you, etc. Gets confusing.
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::Epsilon
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Read:(1-24,3),? :
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4/24: RE: Watch
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Name: Doc Holiday #14
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Date: 1:28 am Thu Jul 07, 1988
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Resembling watch is another USER
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monitoring program call PEEK. (Which
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i'm sure you know what it does -- yes
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it peeks the desired users buffer for
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viewing.
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Peek also has some extensive
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commands such as:
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1) Invoking a user list
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2) Showing the STAT US
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3) Duplex mode
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4) Invoking a Prime command
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5) POKE entry:
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Allows monitoring user to POKE
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commands at the user who is being
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monitored. Very nice -- Had loads of
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fun with this one.
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--Doc Holiday
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Read:(1-24,4),? :†
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C…
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5/24: I found one!
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Name: The Underlord #46
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Date: 10:51 am Sun Jul 31, 1988
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Ok, i found a primos system on
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telenet. How should i begin to hack it?
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I tried all those common ids and
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passwords in the hacking primos file
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but none werk. Someone help me! the
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nua is 0311030300023
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Try and figure it out!
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Underlord.
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.........
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Read:(1-24,5),? :
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6/24: Watch + Start Hacking
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Name: Magic Hasan #64
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Date: 4:59 pm Sat Aug 06, 1988
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Hey Doc, I'm home....anyway, gosh,
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where di yo use Peek <snicker>
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Underlord -
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Many Primes found in 303 turn out to
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be Dialcoms - a system based on Primos,
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but alot more difficult to get around
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in....30323 sounds vaguely familar...Iy
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may not be a dialcom after
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all..Anyway, sometimes you get lucky
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with the defaults , and other times
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...well you know....After you try the
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standard list of defaults from a list,
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try common names...I've had quite a
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bit of success with JOHN,JOHN and
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RICHARD,RICHARD and CHRIS,CHRIS...give
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those a shot.
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Try hacking on Primes found in 617.
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Prime Inc, being based in 617 area has
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many machines in that prefix, and also
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tend to have alot of their defaults in
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place...
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some good ons to try:
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617455
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617585
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617556
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Good luck
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-MH
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Read:(1-24,6),? :
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7/24: Watch rumors
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Name: >UNKNOWN<
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Date: <-> INACTIVE <->
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Epsilon... Watch being started by
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only entering "w" wasn't a standard of
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any sort. That was only on SUNY's
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system so the students wouldn't figure
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out what it was if they found the
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command directory (CMDNC0, CMDNC1,
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etc...)
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Peek is great! But Watch is suppose to
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also allow the poke option to
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allow you to type characters for
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someone else. Peek's unique feature is
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viewing the entered user number for a
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given line. It will allow you to
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read that person's or line's AMLC
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buffer... (let's just say last so
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many characters entered.). The buffer
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size depends on what the system has
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that line set for. It can be from 1K
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to 10K. This is a great feature to use
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it for seeing what the System Console
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(user 1) is up to... you'd be able to
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tell if it logged the DTE address of a
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Telenet port you called through on
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an invalid login for instance. Oh
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yeah, with Peek, the user doesn't have
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to
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be logged in. As far as I can tell, it
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won't display the user's password
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if they just logged in though.
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Usually Peek isn't found in the
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command directories. User's may have it
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as an abbreviation and the actual
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program in one of their Sub UFD's
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for security reasons. There's another
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program called PEEK and SCAN in the
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command directories also. SCAN is
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another watch program but can also be
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a program to scan directories for
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filenames. Scan's main feature is
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to SCAN the system and watch so many
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seconds for every user.
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Prime Suspect
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LOD/H
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Read:(1-24,7),? :
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8/24: Config Files
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Name: Prime Suspect #70
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Date: 6:52 pm Sat Aug 06, 1988
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Sorry about the last post being
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anonymous. That was an accident... I
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signed
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it at the bottom anyway.
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Some files you may wish to look at
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to see what the system logs and
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so on are the following:
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CMDNC0>PRIMOS.COMI A COMI file full
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of all commands to be run
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for the system
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to startup. Usually it's automatically
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run after a
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power outage, but can also be executed
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from the system
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console if the system was previously
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shut down.
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CMDNC0>CONFIG This file is
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normally called "CONFIG" but can be
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anything
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(usually ...".CONFIG" if not CONFIG)
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as assigned by
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the CONFIG command used in the
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PRIMOS.COMI
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file. This file
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contains abbreviations and
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and arguments
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for things such as LOGLOG which will
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send the
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username and time to the system
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console of
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each log in if
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set to YES. BADLOG logs only invalid
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attempts. If
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networked it also sends the originating
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address... such
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as telenet port addresses.
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The Command directory is usually
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contained in MFD 0 and called
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CMDNC0. But it can be in any MFD and
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called anything in the form of
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CMDNCx. Such as CMDNC1.
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The SYSTEM directory contains things
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such as SHAREd memory
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files... and utilities for major
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software packages dealing with
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memory, and line assignment.
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Prime Suspect
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LOD/H
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Read:(1-24,8),? :
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9/24: Watch/Peek
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Name: Epsilon #12
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Date: 10:22 am Sun Aug 07, 1988
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Prime -
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Yeah, I see. But on the particular
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version of peek that I was using, you
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could hit - (I believe) to throw you
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into poke mode. Does this hold
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true for the systems you've been on?
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Ep
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Read:(1-24,9),? :
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10/24: this may.
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Name: Knightmare #21
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Date: 10:58 pm Sun Aug 07, 1988
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this may shound like a stupid question
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but i don't know primos- how do ya
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print a text file? I like the os but
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don't
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get the directory structure. I listed
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all the files, but i think they were
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all
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directories. Now i know there are
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records in each directory which are the
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files themselves. What command would
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i use to change directories? I went
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through the help file many many times
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but nothing. It suggested AT dirname
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but the command doesn't exist.
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Anyone? Why can't people just convert
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to
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unix??? heh
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Read:(1-24,10),? :
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11/24: basic usage
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Name: Prime Suspect #70
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Date: 1:41 am Mon Aug 08, 1988
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LD brings up a list of files and
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directories with headers.
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If you want just the filenames (no
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sub-ufds (dirs)) you would use[
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LD -FILE
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ATTACH and A are the very same... but
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to attach to a subdirectory
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you would enter it like:
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A *>SUB-UFD-NAME
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SLIST filename shows you the
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contents of a file
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Wild characters are "-" and "--".
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To list all commands that are CPL
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listings do the following:
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A CMDNC0
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LD --CPL -NW (the -NW won't give
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you the --MORE-- prompt... =NOWAIT)
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Read:(1-24,11),? :
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12/24: Directory headers
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Name: Prime Suspect #70
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Date: 1:48 am Mon Aug 08, 1988
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not referring to what you see
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printed.
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The actual FILE headers (made[a
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mistake for the title of this msg)
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contain a lot of information. One
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thing is the Passwords assigned to
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password directories. Other
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information used for security, etc...
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is the time/date info stored for
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things like:
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last read
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created on
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last modified
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last backed up
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and so on... if anyone's interested in
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seeing the actual structure
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as read in by the source code say so.
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To look at some info type i[ "LD
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filename -DETAIL"
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or -DET.
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The passwords are never visible to the
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OS user at any time.... but can
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be accessed through programming if you
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have ALL access[to that directory.
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(or PDALURW... or simply P for protect)
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If you want to see a long file for all
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the args for LD do this:
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a help*;slist ld.help
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One nice option is LD -SORTDTC and
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it lists the files in reverse
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order of when they were created...
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also LD -CRA date
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or something similiar to see what
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files were added after a certain
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time/date.
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I use that for searching for new
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commands added , etc.
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Some system operators use these
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options to look for files that may
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have been
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added over the weekend when the system
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wasn't suppose to be used... or
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in the morning.
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Sometimes the CREATE date gets screwed
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after backups to equal the backup
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date.
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13/24: thankks
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Name: Knightmare #21
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Date: 11:56 am Tue Aug 09, 1988
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Prime: Thanks for the help. Still,
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some of the commands you mentioned do
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not exist. For instance, LD. This
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system I was on seems to be owned by a
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big company and would have the need
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for such commands but they are just
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not there. MH knows his share about
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primes, maybe he can help. (he has the
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#) Next time I'm on I'll buffer my
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session
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Read:(1-24,13),? :
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14/24: LD not valid because
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Name: Prime Suspect #70
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Date: 11:51 pm Tue Aug 09, 1988
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It sounds like you have a pre-rev
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19.0 system. Most likely an 18.
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something. In this case forget about
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trying to learn Primos as your new
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knowledge would be useless in most
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cases unless it's a VERY interesting
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owner. Try "L", "LIST","LISTF" to list
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files. L will work fine.
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W
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15/24: well yes..
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Name: Knightmare #21
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Date: 4:08 am Thu Aug 11, 1988
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Yes, maybe I should say it's a VERY
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interesting owner. But I will try
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those commands you mentioned.
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Should they work then thanks, and if
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not ....then..! heh seeya..
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Read:(1-24,15),? :
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16/24: Anyone . . .
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Name: Tales Gallery #74
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Date: 3:14 pm Thu Aug 11, 1988
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Recently Paradox and I have been
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working with Colorado University and
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their ORPHAN PRIME v21.22 (Or
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something to that Suspect #70
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Date: 11:56 pm Sun Aug 14, 1988
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Throw some questions at me. I
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started to write up a text file on CPL
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programming
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and it would look good to have some
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common questions answered in it.
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18/24: Question...Question
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Name: Magic Hasan #64
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Date: 10:10 am Thu Aug 18, 1988
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Hey PS-
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Gosh, what a surprise, you call BBS's
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now?
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<snicker>
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-me
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19/24: reply... to mh
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Name: Prime Suspect #70
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Date: 12:04 am Mon Aug 22, 1988
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Only here if possible. Why should I
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call elsewhere?
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This looks like a promising board full
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of hacker youth and the...
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<ahem> elderly or mature.
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20/24: EDB - binary editor
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Name: Prime Suspect #70
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Date: 12:18 am Mon Aug 22, 1988
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Try this out for seeing something
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different:
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ATTACH LIB
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EDB CCMAIN.BIN
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F ALL
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If CCMAIN.BIN doesn't exist...just use
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another .BIN file there
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like PFTNLB.BIN or something. These
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are the libraries loaded when
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compiling a program.[Doing an "F ALL"
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shows you the functions and calls
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used in that library.
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Kind of interesting for seeing what's
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available.
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Prime Suspect
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LOD/H
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Read:(1-24,20),? :
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21/24: Elderly and mature
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Name: Magic Hasan #64
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Date: 1:16 pm Mon Aug 22, 1988
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Ah, you mean me.
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heh.
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Oops, back to Primos:
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Here are some dialups of Primos
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systems belonging to various colleges.
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Try the defaults <hint hint>
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617-891-2011 / At switch : "connect b"
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- Bentley College
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219-284-4612 - St. mary's College
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Remember - think defaults...defaults...
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defaults...
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-MH
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22/24: ...
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Name: Necron 99 #9
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Date: 6:48 pm Mon Aug 22, 1988
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do NOT post any numbers on here.
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we've already heard that there may be
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feds here, so don't give them ANY
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reasons to arrest poor loythere.
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get it?
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23/24: Numbers.
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Name: Magic Hasan #64
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Date: 1:08 am Thu Aug 25, 1988
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Necron, good friend -
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Let's think back to our bit of law
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background. It comes back to me that
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there
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is absolutely nothing wrong with
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posting a phone number. In fact, the
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numbrs aren't even private. Much like
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a wardialer, a phone number depends
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alot on what one does with it.
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Very innocent,
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-MH
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24/24: ...
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Name: Necron 99 #9
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Date: 5:51 pm Thu Aug 25, 1988
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yeah, fine, whatever, just don't do it
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again, okay? i'm sure there are some
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unscrupulous tupes that may consider
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that information illegal.
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eneough on this subject, let's keep
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this off the board, eh.
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9: Text Philez P-Z
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