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MAO INHIBITORS: BETA-CARBOLINE POTENTIATION OF LSD AND PSILOCYBIN
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From Lunatic Labs BBS - 213-655-0691 1200/2400
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At the risk of sounding insufferably condescending, let me
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start this file w/ a warning and a word of caution: the combination of
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substances discussed here is DEFINITELY NOT RECOMMENDED for the
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inexperienced or reluctant user of psychedelics. These mixtures are
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NOT even meant for RECREATIONAL use. LSD and psilocybin (the active
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substance in 'magic mushrooms') by themselves are powerfully mind
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altering psychedelics. Unless you have experienced and are able to
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ENJOY AND UNDERSTAND hi-dose LSD (over 5 hits/500mics) and psilocybin
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(4-5 grs of magic mushrooms or more) the use of MAO inhibitors to
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potentiate these indole psychedelics IS NOT FOR YOU.
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The purpose of this text file is two-fold: to add to the very
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sparse body of knowledge that exists on the use of MAO inhibitors and
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to stress that use of MAO inhibitors w/ potent psychedelics will, in
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short, invariably result in a very, very serious mind-fuck. unless
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youre crazy enough (like I am) to *enjoy* having your reality, thought
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and perceptual processes seriously altered for 10+ hrs w/o relief, you
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should use the content of this file for informational purposes only.
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If, after perusing this information, you feel tempted to
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attempt the experience for yourself, feel free to send me email w/ any
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questions, comments, concerns you have. MAO inhibitors are nothing to
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trifle w/. you cannot use them 'just recreationally'. the careless and
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uninformed use of MAO inhibitors can result in serious physical
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complications, like death.
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I had gotten interested in taking indole psychedelics in a
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state of MAO inhibition, after obtaining an unpublished, underground
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manuscript from Gracie&Zarkov, two renegade bay area psychedelic
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explorers, who have regular guest appearances in High
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Frontiers/Reality Hackers and a 20+ year history of psychedelic
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investigation. (they are also two SF investment bankers in real life).
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specifically, one of their papers describes their work w/ b-carboline,
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harmala alkaloid containing plants (passion flower, syrian rue and
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caapi) when extracts of each are smoked in conjunction w/ DMT, LSD and
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psilocybin.
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note that it is not possible to obtain b-carboline
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potentiation effects by just smoking the dried plant material; if you
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cant get the extracts of the plants (all of which are legal), you need
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to perform the extraction process yourself. otherwise youd need to
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smoke about 750 grs (about 1.5 lbs !!) of passion flower to get an effect.
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for our fist experiment into MAO inhibitors, three volunteers
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participated (two prominent users on this bbs and myself). all of us are
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experienced users of various psychedelics across most possible doses; between
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the three of us, we would probably log a couple hundred psychedelic trips,
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incl. combinations of various substances.
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the b-carboline containing plant we used was passion flower (see my
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recent posts on this sub on using passion flower in conjunction w/ marijuana
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and sassafras root bark). I was able to obtain passion flower in two forms at
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a local herb store: dried chopped plant material packaged in gel caps and
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60 ml of the plant extract - which is more than enough to achieve MAO
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inhibition (getting the extract was a stroke of luck, for sure, it saved me
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the very tedious and time consuming extraction process). to obtain a smokable
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substance of passion flower, I mixed about 1500mg of the plant material (the
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content of five gelcaps) w/ 50 drops of the extract, forming a smooth emulsion.
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the mixture was then dried in the microwave for 3min on low power, which left
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us, w/ a soft, crumbly substance, hash-like in color and texture.
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we rapidly took 10-15 hits, resulting in a very mild,
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pot-like high, which by itself surely wouldnt be worth scorching your
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throat and lungs w/ the harsh smoke. two of us (incl myself) then took
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400-500 mics (4-5 hits) of LSD, while the other volunteer took 2.8 grs
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of potent stropharia (magic mushrooms).
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at this point Ive only obtained a few details of the content
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of their repective trips from the other two participants, and I havent
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quite integrated the scope of my own experiences yet. Ill post some of
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the more relevant details to the board as they come to me; on the more
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general side, all of us agree on the following:
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- the dose felt subjectively three to four times more potent than
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it actually was, incl. a much longer lasting trip (about 10 hrs for me)
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than is normal for the doses we took.
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- closed and open eye imagery were greatly enhanced with circular, highly
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detailed, bright and (for me) incredibly colorful and vivid images.
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- the mental state we achieved for all of us was the most 'altered'
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that any of us had experienced under the influence of psychedelics.
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to quote one of our participants: "fuck, I sure have *never* tripped
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on shrooms like *this* before!!"
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Some details from my own trip experience:
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being somewhat sensitive to white lite (even a 50 watt bulb) on LSD, I
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retreated to the bedroom just about when I felt the peak coming on. I
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was lying back on the bed looking at the ceiling lite, which contained
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a single red bulb. the lamp shade (made of milky glass) was such that
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the red lite was spread in a circle almost across the entire ceiling,
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w/ the deepest, darkest shade of red centered around the bulb itself.
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I kept looking at the lite and the ceiling, excluding everything else
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from the field of my vision. the ceiling was moving, waving,
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undulating (the wall-breathing experience is quite common on LSD and
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didnt surprise me). the incredible thing was the way the colors
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centered around the bulb kept changing vividly and fluently across the
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entire red-orange-yellow spectrum and back again, with all of those
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colors being present on different parts of the ceiling at any one
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time. this color-motion (which Ive never experienced on LSD alone)
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added quite a factor of intensity to the wall-breathing experience.
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at one point I was watching a volcano erupt; later, I felt like I was
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looking right into the vortex of a whirlpool of red-orange colored
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fast-moving water, w/ a black hole at its center (the 'hole' being
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actually a black knob on the lampshade). I was quite impressed w/ that
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show inside my mind, believe me.... who needs hollywood for special
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effects.... :-)
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this volcano/whirlpool vision also strikes me as being a good example
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of the power of MAO inhibitors: if you are 'normally' disturbed by
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the "wall-breathing" experience on LSD/psilocybin alone, the reddish
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color movement across the spectrum may very well send you over the
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edge - remember that I was lying perfectly still and that the ceiling
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and lite, of course, objectively did not move either. the motion
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picture of red colors was playing solely in my mind....
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once again, stay away from MAO inhibitors/LSD combinations, unless
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youre absolutely positive that you can lie back and enjoy *major*
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hallucinatory states. also remeber that a red lite bulb is a
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relatively innocent and stationary(!) visual stimulus. Im sure you can
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imagine much less benign visual stimuli to hallucinate upon...
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I do have some more details in this department (all of us watched the
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movie 'Tron' just as we'd reached the down side of the peak), but Ill
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save those for some interesting posts to the board after having
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consulted some more w/ my fellow trippers....
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A final word of warning extracted from the booklet "Legal Highs",
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p.31:
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====>>> DANGEROUS COMBINATIONS <<<====
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MAO (monoamine oxidase) is an enzyme produced in the body
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which breaks down certain amines and renders them harmless and
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ineffective. An MAO inhibitor interferes w/ the protective enzyme and
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leaves the body vulnerable to these amines. A common substance such as
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tyramine, which is usually metabolized w/ little or no pharmacological
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effect, may become dangerous in the presence of MAO inhibitors and
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cause headache, stiff neck, cardiovascular difficulties and even
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death. In the presence of MAO inhibitors, many substances which are
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ordinarily non-active because of their swift metabolism, may become
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potent psychoactive drugs. the harmala alkaloids in passion flower are
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especially potent inhibitors, but short lasting in action (30 min to
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several hours). some commercial MAO inhibitors, however, are effective
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for periods of days to weeks.
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Among the materials which may be dangerous in combination w/
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MAO inhibitors are sedatives, tranquilizers, antihistamines,
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narcotics, and alcohol - any of which can cause hypotensive crises
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(severe blood pressure drop); and amphetamines (even diet pills),
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mescaline, asarone, nutmeg (active doses), macromerine, ephedrine,
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oils of dill, parsley or wild fennel, beer, wine, cocoa, aged cheeses
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and other tyrosine-containing foods - any of which can cause
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hypertensive crises (severe blood pressure rise).
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STAY HIGH AND STAY FREE
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-Castalia
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