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From: Michael Hughes <professorpan@delphi.com>
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Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
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Subject: Salvia Divinorum--Smoke, don't chew!
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Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:04:38 -0500
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Message-ID: <BUzTsq+.professorpan@delphi.com>
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A friend stumbled across a reference to smoking S. Divinorum in Jonathon
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Ott's "Pharmacotheon." Guess what? It works! Having tried to chew the
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stuff, which was unsuccessful due to the INTENSE bad taste (and I'm one
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who has chugged down a lot of harsh liquids in my entheogenic studies)
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I was really surprised at the effects--an immediate, intensely weird buzz
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that lasts for about 5 to 10 minutes. It is truly bizarre--I can't come
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up with any comparison with any other substance. It is a very powerful,
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yet short-acting trip. Definitely beats chewing the stuff, which is
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reminescent of chewing dirty poison ivy.
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Anyone else aware of this intriguing plant? I'd be interested to hear
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of others' experiences in the realm of S. Divinorum.
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Professor Pan
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From: kermi@aol.com (Kermi)
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Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
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Subject: Re: Salvia Divinorum--Smoke, don't chew ! and grow too.
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Date: 27 Aug 1994 01:00:06 -0400
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Message-ID: <33mh8m$1u0@search01.news.aol.com>
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I'll step forward and derve as Gueinea Pig. I'm growing cuttings now but
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they are growing very slowly. I've tried outdoors in a pot and in the
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shade, and no bushy growth , just longer and stronger stems.. Any idea
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about how much plant material is required to smoke in order to get an
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effect?
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I've chewed 10 leaves as a maximum dose and had no effect. Maybe saliva
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(not salvia) or stomach acids destroy the psychoactive compounds before
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they get to the brain. So smoking may be a better delivery route, it'
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doesnt have to go through spit and bile before it hits the
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bloodstream.Unless maybe you have fasted for 2 or 3 days and your system
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at that stage will immediately absorb the goodies prior to destruction.
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I'm still skeptical though about smoking Ska Pastora , the other post said
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that the psychoactives might be all gone two hours after harvest.. This
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does not spell a strong argument for smpking , because if they're gone
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that suggests evaporation or oxidation. The same thing that happens when
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you burn plants. So , I wonder if the goodies are not liable to burn up in
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the bowl before hitting the lungs.
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Also, two hours after harvest would not allow enough time for drying.
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How do you smoke green/wet leaves? I guess I could sacrifice one leave to
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find out.
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These are difficult plants to grow, So far. Any one have a few tips?
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Message-ID: <212306Z05091994@anon.penet.fi>
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Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
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From: an105679@anon.penet.fi
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 21:21:52 UTC
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Subject: >Salvia Divinorum --smoke, don't chew
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Especially if you don't have a huge plant, you don't need to chew. About
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three large leaves and a water pipe has been enough for two people,speaking
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from experience. You need to let each other have about six or seven
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"inhalations apiece, depending on the leaf size is how many leaves you need.
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It lasts about 1-2 hours in different stages.
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By the way, a humidity tent is a must, as well as for more exotic plants
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like B. caapi and P. viridis, if you live in a dry climate.
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From: hooten@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (hooten)
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Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
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Subject: Re: Salvia Divinorum--Smoke, don't chew ! and grow too.
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Date: 31 Aug 1994 21:57:43 GMT
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Message-ID: <342ucn$nu4@pandora.sdsu.edu>
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[quoted text deleted -cak]
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Well *I* can tell you that smoking dried leaves *does* work, and the
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leaves are supposed to be chewed and kept in your mouth for at least
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15 minutes, so the active constituents can absorb their whay through
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your cheek and gums into your bloodstream. There may be something
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in your stomach that breaks it down. It is believed that the
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indians would take up to 70 leaves, but this number was not necessary,
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just that it took about 15 minutes to eat that many, and hence, have
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leaves in your mouth for that long.
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I can't confirm the oral route, although it seems pretty clear from
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what I have read and conversed with other people.
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-- Chris
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From: pla@tmok.res.wpi.edu (pla)
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: Re: S. Divinorum (Diviner's Sage)
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Date: 28 Oct 1994 14:58:23 GMT
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Message-ID: <38r3if$lcu@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
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Ayahu (ayahu@aol.com) wrote:
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: In Dekorne's fall issue of Entheogen Review someone (RN of WY) describes
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: an intense out-of-body experience after "smoking two or three consecutive
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: bong hits" of S. Divinorum. He says "it is very potent". As in the case of
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well, that's good for him, but in my case i smoked (rather painfully... that
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shit burns *hot*!) close to 2 grams with no effects whatsoever...
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- pla
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From: ayahu@aol.com (Ayahu)
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
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Subject: Re: S. Divinorum (Diviner's Sage)
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Date: 24 Nov 1994 04:30:15 -0500
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Message-ID: <3b1mf7$iqu@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
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My friend did the same..smoked about a gram with no effects whatsoever..so
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what the hell is the scoop on this?
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Message-ID: <004303Z09111994@anon.penet.fi>
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs.psychedelics
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From: an143204@anon.penet.fi (Pentarexx)
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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:38:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: Salvia Divinorum
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[quoted text deleted -cak]
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2 live plants purchased from ...OTJ
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Dried 5 leaves over a period of 2 days, rolled into a joint and smoked
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no result.
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Took the rest of the fresh leaves from the plants, (approx. 9 leaves)
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rolled into quid, stuffed in mouth. Waited 45 minutes. No chewing, no
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swallowing, no results.
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: thanks
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Anytime
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Pentarexx
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